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OVRTrainer
08-02-2002, 04:56 PM
I wanted to give my bros some advanced notice on a new book coming out by Attorney Rick Collins that every one of us should have! As many of you know, Rick Collins is a former competitive bodybuilder and a nationally recognized authority on the laws as they relate to Anabolic Steroids. He is affectionately known in the bodybuilding community as "The Steroid Lawyer". When someone is arrested anywhere in the country for a steroid related offense and they find that their court appointed attorney doesn't know the difference between an aspirin and an anadrol, they call him. I am a law student and have been lucky enough to be working for Mr. Collins over the past few months. In that short time I have learned an incredible amount about steroids and the law and more importantly I learned how much I didn't know.

The book is going to be called, "Legal Muscle" and it will cover ALL of the Anabolic Steroid related laws of the states as well as the federal law. It will include the practical application of these laws, in other words, how a steroid case (Possession or Sale) would typically be handled in each of the fifty states such as what kind of plea bargaining is available. There will be information on the legality of substances such as GHB, HGH, Cattle implants and virtually any and every substance that would be of "interest" to bodybuilders. There will be chapters that cover mail order steroids (domestic and international), seizure notices, search warrants, customs information, steroids and the internet, international pharmacies, Physician prescribed Hormone Replacement Therapy and I know I'm forgetting many more topics. It will also include cases that Mr. Collins has handled...the juiciest of the bunch. Most importantly, there will be a chapter on our Constitutional Rights and how to protect them. Let's face it, if you don't know your rights you won't know when they've been violated. I'm sure I am forgetting some things so for more info you can visit www.steroidlaw.com.

In an effort to make the book a comprehensive look inside of AAS, there will be a glossary of steroid terms for the newbie or the attorney who is unfamiliar with our world as well as typical cycles and dosages. This book will provide the truth about the health risks and benefits of anabolic steroids while debunking the myths perpetuated by society such as the "cancer related" death of Lyle Alzado.

We no longer have to bring our legal questions to the boards, relying on "armchair lawyers" and the experiences of others as our only means of understanding the law as it relates steroids. In my time on the boards, I have seen hundreds of posts where someone is confronted with a situation, be it a bust, a search, or even a seizure notice. Their fear and anxiety leads them to the boards where they desperately ask the question, "What do I do?" In our efforts to help, each of us contributes what we know from our experience and what we have read in an attempt to help a brother out. Over the last few months as I have been researching and learning from Mr. Collins, I have found that most of our advice is incorrect or incomplete at best. Finally we will have access to the truth!

I can only assume that over the next few months this book is going to be everywhere...I hope our society is ready for the truth!

Dante B.
08-03-2002, 06:07 PM
Bump, since this is, something you should concern yourself with.

windwords7
08-03-2002, 06:44 PM
Nice indeed my friend. I appreciate your input on these boards bro and now look at ya! Your going to be a legal roid guru someday. I'll know who to call!

raybravo
08-03-2002, 11:19 PM
gosh u guys have to worry about so many things , out here in my country , deca , sustanon, test , evrything is available , no prescription needed !! yay !!! hard to find dianabol though

cjm8232
08-04-2002, 07:26 AM
I didn't catch it when will this book be avail.?

Seuss
08-04-2002, 01:23 PM
Bump, that to the top

OVRTrainer
08-04-2002, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by cjm8232
I didn't catch it when will this book be avail.?

Sorry bros!

It is due out in October, but he is taking pre-orders right now and offering free shipping as incentive. Take care brothers!

Big Cat
08-05-2002, 12:32 PM
Sounds like a great thing to have for the chemically enhanced in the Unites States. Its always been a very tricky issue, and once you comprehend the limit of the possible litigation, you may be able to more carefully plan your actions.

OVRTrainer
08-06-2002, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Big Cat
Sounds like a great thing to have for the chemically enhanced in the Unites States. Its always been a very tricky issue, and once you comprehend the limit of the possible litigation, you may be able to more carefully plan your actions.

Exactly! Knowing the laws, the consequences, and your rights under the Constitution is the best way to protect yourself.

darkthorn
08-06-2002, 12:52 PM
I'm just gonna start living in Mexico for six months of the year. Bwahaha. The nice touristy parts of course.

Dante B.
08-08-2002, 05:38 PM
Bump.

OVRTrainer
08-09-2002, 12:51 PM
Thanks bro!

Update...the book will be ready for shipping on Nov. 6th :D

THECRUX
08-10-2002, 07:08 AM
bump thanks for the good word bro

Dante B.
08-20-2002, 12:30 AM
Bump.

TESTOSTERONE
08-20-2002, 12:59 AM
Very interesting indeed, I'll have to add this book to my arsenal of knowledge and defense :cool:

redman
08-20-2002, 08:38 AM
back to the top.... Its always better safe then sorry... Thanx BRo..

RetiredMod
08-20-2002, 09:16 PM
bump

OVRTrainer
08-21-2002, 01:53 PM
If you haven't got it yet, you should get it.....it may save you your time, money and freedom!

Voodoo
08-21-2002, 02:39 PM
Nice to know! I'm definitely getting this book.

bigjay00
08-23-2002, 10:31 AM
same here

BigPhil
08-23-2002, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by darkthorn
I'm just gonna start living in Mexico for six months of the year. Bwahaha. The nice touristy parts of course.

LMAO!!! Aint that the truth!

IME
08-23-2002, 01:26 PM
Bump....anybody know about any Canadian books on steroid laws??:)

Dante B.
11-26-2002, 08:25 PM
Bump for OVR and Rick.

Antonio
11-26-2002, 08:36 PM
Excellent overtrainer. That sounds like a very useful book.

OVRTrainer
11-29-2002, 06:56 PM
Thanks bros! Set to begin mailing next week...I'm so excited. :D:D:D

Antonio
11-29-2002, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by OVRTrainer
Thanks bros! Set to begin mailing next week...I'm so excited. :D:D:D

Where can we order it ?

Thanks

OVRTrainer
12-05-2002, 12:11 PM
IT'S HERE!!!

Shipping began yesterday...as a surprise to those who pre-ordered. :D:D:D

We're excited to hear your feedback!

Officer Iron
12-05-2002, 05:31 PM
Sounds like a good book, I think I will cross over to the DARK SIDE one day and work as a hired gun , then I will do a book on all the tricks used in Law Enforcement and not have to play by all these damn rules.

Any FREE copies for the weight lifting POLICE ? LOL

* Officer Iron *

OVRTrainer
12-05-2002, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Officer Iron
Sounds like a good book, I think I will cross over to the DARK SIDE one day and work as a hired gun , then I will do a book on all the tricks used in Law Enforcement and not have to play by all these damn rules.

Any FREE copies for the weight lifting POLICE ? LOL

* Officer Iron *

Actually, a DEA agent did just that about 5-10 yrs ago...he has recently been released from prison and the book is no longer in circulation.

This is a true story and I'd rather you just hang out with us ;)

We'd like to get the book out to everyone as we feel there is broad appeal to the topics covered. We would encourage Police Departments to read it and have it on the shelf as it may avoid arrests of some of our "brothers in iron" for situations such as:
-substances that are mistaken to be controlled substances and are actually prescription drugs
-what is actually "personal" use amounts as not to be mistaken with quantitites consistent with distribution
-as well as the laws of every state including DC and Puerto Rico...everyone needs to know exactly what the law is w/regard to AAS

If you were to get the Dept. to order some copies, I think we might be able to arrange something :D I also know that you're a good bro who's always passing along helpful information to others and I would let Rick know

Officer Iron
12-06-2002, 07:23 AM
I have been in the buisness 13 years, 95-99 in drug enforcement and 99 til present with a Criminal DA's Office here in Texas, I think the most important thing to look at is the word TEXAS we are covered in drugs from mexico mostly cocaine, methamphetamine and marijuania. I have never seen one arrest or seizure of juice nor have I ever heard of a local officer who cares about juice. I guess when you are the drug hub of the entire USA juice is a very low priority if one at all. If you live in a state where there is equal amounts of all drugs in much smaller amounts then here in Texas I suppose the Local Police would be more interested.

* Officer iron *

RetiredMod
12-06-2002, 01:29 PM
Was wondering where you went Officer Iron, hadn't seen you post in a while... :)

THECRUX
12-06-2002, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by McBain
Was wondering where you went Officer Iron, hadn't seen you post in a while... :)

i havent seen him post for months. nice to see ya around

Officer Iron
12-06-2002, 07:46 PM
I am still here, I have been doing the build a new house thing and I got my own gym put togather so I am back, I am on PH cycle right now might see what next year brings for the spring cycle. is BIG VINCE and ANIMAL still around?

* Officer Iron *

redman
12-07-2002, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Officer Iron
I am still here, I have been doing the build a new house thing and I got my own gym put togather so I am back, I am on PH cycle right now might see what next year brings for the spring cycle. is BIG VINCE and ANIMAL still around?

* Officer Iron *

Nice to see you again bro.. Yeah, both are around but not all the time.