Official : Olympia RAGE Thread.

[CunnyFunt]

Bull****!!!!!!!


Vic #1
Wolf #2

Ffs

[YngwieReid]

olympia is rigged..this is F***ing bull****!

[Nayoo]

Same as always then.

[adonis verdader]

another reason that bbing doesn't pay.

[user23960508710783]

Bull****!!!!!!!


Vic #1
Wolf #2

Ffs

My thoughts exactly. This is just a disgusting result. I feel stupid for caring about this competition.

[The Adam]

*rips off a plasma screen tv from a nearby wall and chucks it at the Jumbo Tron*

[CallMeGod]

I woulda put Silvio 4th and Jay 5th

[CanuckTank]

Ron was the highlight of the night and Jay knew it.

[Ragnar13]

I expect this kinda **** at a WWE pay per view, not THE bodybuilding show of the year.


F**K it. Olympia is overrated......the Arnold is a better show and experiance anyway!!!

[LSU1]

My thoughts exactly. This is just a disgusting result. I feel stupid for caring about this competition.

x2

i knew it was gonnna shake out like this too but i still kept up for some unknown reason

[StrongrthnIlook]

My thoughts exactly. This is just a disgusting result. I feel stupid for caring about this competition.


I feel ripped off about this crap. Jay looked like poop last night, but was close enough to come back from that to win???

This IS stupid and so am I for caring enough to type about this. If I was smart and wanted to maintain some dignity, I would not even finish this pos

[Martynov]

Olimpia better not become like wresting (fake).....

[tony404]

I expect this kinda **** at a WWE pay per view, not THE bodybuilding show of the year.


F**K it. Olympia is overrated......the Arnold is a better show and experiance anyway!!!

Then you must be very new because it happens all the time. lol

[CallMeGod]

I feel ripped off that I am still up at 1 and I have to go to work for 7


They say you need 8 hours of good rest a night but no thanks to Joe Weider I can't sleep tonight.

[Juic3]

**** wieder im gonna eat his ****ing nose, go get ****ed by muscletech you old bastard.

[alaska21]

They had a chance to move the sport in the right direction by giving it to an aesthetic guy like Wolf or Dex...**** even victor looks RELATIVELY aesthetic compared to the bloated gh guts of everyone else. ugh. BB'ing sort of died a little tonight : (

[jules_d1]

I think in a few days/weeks people might be able to make some more logical comclusions about it after we can all look atthe pictures and compare.

[The Brotherhood]

!@#!@#%^*(*&^%$#w@sdfghj^%$#w

[Juic3]

!@#!@#%^*(*&^%$#w@sdfghj^%$#w

x2

[adonis verdader]

Sometimes, it's a journalist's job to speak for the devil.

That's what an editor of a popular men's magazine once said. He's right. Some things just have to be said, damn the consequences. Most of the time, people will be shocked, offended, and even pissed off. Yet most of the time, what's being said is exactly what they'd been thinking all along, despite their public show of righteous indignation.

Take competitive bodybuilding, for example, or what's left of it. There are a lot of things we're not supposed to say about bodybuilding. I'm going to say them anyway. Why? Because it's the truth. And not speaking the truth is just the same as lying.

The truth is that bodybuilding, as a sport, is dead. It's no secret that today's top bodybuilders are using insanely unhealthy amounts of steroids and a host of other drugs to look the way they do. Steroids have been part of bodybuilding since the late 1950's or the early 1960's. I don't know the exact dates, but John Ziegler, the physician for the US weightlifting team, developed a synthetic Testosterone molecule (methandrostenolone) some time in 1955. Today we just call it D-bol. I'm sure it didn't take long for bodybuilders to discover what athletes had discovered just a few years before.

Arnold used steroids. Zane used steroids. Lou used steroids. All of the old-school heroes used steroids. But back then it was still a valid competition, still worthy of being followed. The pros spoke and people listened. Today it's different. The drug use has skyrocketed. Pros seldom cycle off and instead simply add more and more to their drug stacks until they're no longer recognizable as human beings. Then they inject Synthol, a potentially dangerous oil, into their lagging body parts. Milos Sarcev, once known as one of the smarter pros, almost died from this incredibly dumb practice.

Some get artificial calf and pec implants. Glute implants are becoming popular. Hell, at least with 'roids, they were building real muscle, but Synthol and saline and plastic? And let's not forget regular gyno surgeries, liposuction, and ab etching. I have nothing inherently against those things, but when used for a competition (or to sell a fancy ab training book), it goes beyond just insulting the intelligence of the masses, it becomes downright sleazy. Then these drugged-up, surgery-etched, toxic waste factories push pills and powders to teenagers and sell themselves as realistic role models. It's a shame.

A couple of years ago I was walking through an airport with a poplar pro-bodybuilder. He was huffing and wheezing so badly I started to ask him if I could carry his luggage for him. I thought at any minute he was going to keel over dead or fall to the floor and flop like an epileptic fish out of water. This guy, who'd been featured on the cover of a muscle magazine whose slogan is "For Super Fitness and Vigorous Health" could barely walk without losing his breath. This guy, who'd posed in GNC-sponsored contests with that company's logo "Live Well" hanging ironically above his head, was turning bright red (a sign of high blood pressure) just carrying a piece of luggage.

This is an athlete? This is a "star" of our sport? No, this is a walking side effect. And it was embarrassing. Embarrassing because since I lift weights, eat a lot of protein and write for a muscle magazine, I'm lumped into the same category as this panting, balding mound of zits.

Likewise, bodybuilding, as a source of inspiration and motivation, is dead. First, not many people even want to look like the pros anymore. Most people look at today's top pros and come away discouraged, not motivated; disgusted, not inspired. Arnold caused generations of men to pick up the weights, but today's sideshow freaks only make them run away. We all wanted to look like Arnold did in the 70's, but does anyone want to look like today's Mr. Olympia with his distended GH gut and his quads so big he rubs bleeding sores on himself? Yeah, I suppose some do want to look like this, but I have to wonder if they really know what goes into achieving this look.

We get letters all the time from 17-year-old guys wanting to know how to look like their favorite pros. What do we tell them? See, it's a fine line. If we lay out the total truth ? insane and expensive drug use, health problems, prostitution (more common than most want to admit in high level competitive bodybuilding and fitness competitions), limiting genetic factors etc. ? we risk dissuading them from starting a weight lifting program. That's the last thing we want to do.

But if we paint an air-brushed Weider-dream for them and tell them that with hard work and discipline, they too could look like Mr. O, we risk causing them to quit altogether out of frustration. Because soon enough, they'll realize this just isn't possible, certainly not naturally, and unless they have the right genetics, it's not even possible with extensive drug use.

Do we tell the 17-year-old kid that he could spend thousands of dollars on steroids, break the law on a weekly basis, give up on the rest of his life, and sell his soul to the "sport" only to win a third place trophy at the Mr. Salt Lake City contest some day? Do I point out how pathetic most retired pros are these days after their few years of "fame," standing at fitness expos hoping someone will come and talk to them and buy an autographed picture from the glory days? In the end, we tell the kid a little of each side of the story and let him learn the rest for himself.

And pro-level female bodybuilding? Please. It died years ago, although its rotting corpse is still lying around stinking things up. And how many women have never picked up a weight in fear of turning into one of those chemical abominations, one of those she-males who go on talk shows and deny that they use steroids. Modern female pro-bodybuilding has driven women away from the gym in droves. And for that it deserves our disdain. Its corpse needs to be embalmed and buried. Hopefully, its lingering stink will dissipate quickly.

Want to hear something else I'm not supposed to say? Competitive bodybuilding is a tad gay. Not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that, as Seinfeld would quip. Really, I have nothing against gays and even have a couple of gay friends. They love bodybuilding even though they don't lift weights. Hey, put a bunch of shaved, oiled up, well-built studs on a stage in tight bikini underwear and what do you expect? After all, when they do this with women during spring break, we call it a T & A contest, right? So naturally, bodybuilding attracts a large gay following and has an active fetish community. An insider in the pro community once pointed to a photo of the top ten bodybuilders and said he knew at least four of them had sucked dick for money. Do I tell the 17-year-old kid about what his heroes sometimes do for drug money? Am I spoiling his dream or am I saving him a lot of heartache?

And picture this. A man, shaved and oiled, walks up on stage and poses. He puts his hand to his ear and beckons the crowd to cheer louder. They're going to have to beg before he gives it to them. They cheer louder and louder and finally he rewards them by ripping his trunks up into his butt crack to reveal the striations on his glutes. The crowd of men goes insane. This happens all the time at bodybuilding contests. Now, tell me if that doesn't look flamin' gay? Not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that.

Listen, I love lifting weights. I love building my body and helping others build their bodies. And I admire those who have the balls and discipline to enter a local contest. It's a good way to test yourself and you'll learn a lot from the experience. Several T-mag contributors have stepped onto the stage themselves and walked off with trophies, and I'm not trying to insult them at all. But even they'll admit that the sport of bodybuilding, at least at the upper levels, has gone too far. And because of that, it's dying. Today, people go to the Arnold Fitness Weekend and don't even attend the bodybuilding show, unless they want to laugh at the carnival freaks.

Training with weights as a means of looking great and being healthy is on the rise. I love it. As annoying as newbies can sometimes be, I like seeing the gym packed with them. I love seeing women losing their fear of weight training and I love seeing the results this time of year as the shorts and baby T's come out of the closet.

Powerlifting, Olympic lifting, athletic preparation, strongman contests, or just lifting weights to look good naked ? I love it all. But competitive bodybuilding is dead. It died when Arnold retired. It died when Zane and Draper quit competing. It died when Corey and Rachel stepped off the stage. It died when steroid use turned into steroid abuse. And although it could possibly be resuscitated, no one is going to try. And perhaps that's not so bad.

Rest in peace.

[KarateChris]

*rage rage rage rage*

A friend and I were watching it at his place, and his place just so happens to be at a condomenium where a LOT of old people live (seems like a retirement home, but a lot of students live there too), and when they announced jay as the winner I think my raging and screaming probably killed a few of them lol

[BloodnGuts]

I'm MAD! BUL**** ALL THE WAY!!! WOLF and VIC got screwed

[jules_d1]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
adonis verdader

WTF? Relevence?

[Duckenheimer]

They had a chance to move the sport in the right direction by giving it to an aesthetic guy like Wolf or Dex...**** even victor looks RELATIVELY aesthetic compared to the bloated gh guts of everyone else. ugh. BB'ing sort of died a little tonight : (

Jay didn't have a bloated GH gut, although his waist was large.

Dexter Jackson did. Dexter Jackson having more distention than Jay Cutler... damn.

[alaska21]

Layne Norton for Mr. O!

[Juic3]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[EarlyBirdHustle]

Olimpia better not become like wresting (fake).....

WWE at least admits it's fixed...

do we even need to see next year's "Muscle Tech presents 2008 Mr. Olympia" like we don't know the winner already?

sickenin...

[Kiwi_]

Like Serge always said, Ben and Joe Weider are evil conmen.


Ask Ben what he did in Paris in 1971 at the Mr.Olympia, which I was the organizer.
Sometime I fell ashame to be called "body builder"

Serge


Guys, Joe is not the worst, Ben is, Ben is the President of IFBB.

Serge


Because he is sick in his head, both of them. Joe think that he is CESAR and Ben Nopoléon.

Serge

[Gaffigan]

:mad:

[Wayneizgod]

IT WAS VICTOR'S SHOW ..he flat out got robbed

[MashkaNY]

vic looked redic

[Kovalchuk]

All you can do is refuse to support these type of judging disasters.

Don't attend the Olympia, dont allow jokes like this to occur at the expense of the sport. I will never purchase an Olympia ticket until things change. Jay's physique was absolutely atrocious yesterday, possibly the top 5 worst conditioned athlete in the entire show.

Once the support for the Mr. O dwindles even more... maybe the judging criteria will be examined. Maybe it will take a move from the Mandalay--> Orleans Arena ---> highschool basement to finally see some changes. Once they hit rock bottom, they will realize what shows like tonight do to the sport.

[CanuckTank]

Like Serge always said, Ben and Joe Weider are evil conmen.

Yip, all business, and no truth.

Jay was kept on becuase he is a good ambassador, and who they thought was bringing the people to the O.

BUT, it isn't, everyone wanted to see Ronnie's last time out.

This is going to bow up in the IFBB's face, their credibility took a deserved ****-kickin tonight. IFBB took a step back tonight.

Jay is a good guy, but Victor was superior and these things will take everything gained away from the O.

[Yukk]

I am never supporting bodybuilding as a sport again, atleast not Olympia. This show is all about politics and nothing else. Don't they realize that they actually lost fans by doing this? The best man should have won, and it didn't happen tonight.

1. Vic
2.Wolf
3. Dex

Everybody will have different opinion but im sure most will agree that Jay should not have won the Olympia.

[Q-Ball83]

i live in the sticks and can't get high-speed, i get most of my contest coverage from magazines, i've stayed up the last two nights till 2am just waiting for results and pics, and for what? to find out that nothing's changed? forget it i'm done, i don't care anymore F(*K THE O SHOW!!!!!

[Jamps]

olympia is rigged..this is F***ing bull****!

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb239/jkilladawg/other%20stuff/oldnewspk8.jpg

[cisco3609]

Jay came in bloated. 1st Victor ,2nd Dexter,3rd Jay,4th Ronnie.

[FullROM]

The show was between Martinez and Wolf and I am not a fan of either, I feel so disolusioned with bodybuilding after this, just kinda depressed.

[4evafit]

this is the worst fuking olyimpia i have ever seen. what a fked up judging system. who the freaking hell would put wolf 5th. fcking politics. this is how it should be

1. wolf
2.dexter
3. victor
4. jay
5. ronnie
6.joj
7 melvin

look at jays pics and does this look like mr olympia to u? is this the guy who is representing the sport of bodybuilding.

[Kiwi_]

It was digusting how bored Jay looked as he waited for his prearranged placing to be called. He could at least try to act surprised or something.

[ZenBowman]

Bull****!!!!!!!


Vic #1
Wolf #2

Ffs

Did anyone else notice the strong repwhoring by MuscleTech in the preshow???

[Jamps]

Layne Norton for Mr. O!

FTW!!!!!

[cisco3609]

no it did not fall. Wolf did look great, but it was Victors show. And poor Ronnie,is it me or is his back f---ed beyond belief

[MARSHALL350]

Bull****!!!!!!!


Vic #1
Wolf #2

Ffs

exactly how i saw it when those 2 guys stepped on stage my head nearly exploded they looked insane especially compared to jay who looked puffy and way out of condition

[Kill Em All]

Mr Olympia = Rigged

end of thread

[karthik2504]

BULL****.....This has to be the worst ever Olympia ever. Shud start and online POLL site condeming the results and make IFBB consider the results again. VIC & WOLF got screwed big time

[10ThousandFists]

Bull****!!!!!!!


Vic #1
Wolf #2

Ffs

Bull****!

Wolf #1
Vic #2

Ffs

But yeah, I feel the same! :mad:

[GBLynden]

no it did not fall. Wolf did look great, but it was Victors show. And poor Ronnie,is it me or is his back f---ed beyond belief
Yep, I bet it's a reflex issue. Most doctors don't know how to treat it and just call it a nerve issue. I had some similar issues after my accident, but I was lucky enough to find a doctor that could actually heal. I bet his doctors just gave him drugs or told him to quit bodybuilding.

[Lyonel]

Who's contracted by who?

Ronnie - BSN
Jay - Muscletech
..

[Mallorca Island]

How do they expect bodybuilding to get to more people when this is such a big b****!

1 Vic

2 Wolf

[TheSheepdog]

All The Supplement Companies Should Get Together And Sue The Ifbb And Muscletech For Conspiring To Rig The Mr.o Contest

[The_Big_E]

I expect this kinda **** at a WWE pay per view, not THE bodybuilding show of the year.


F**K it. Olympia is overrated......the Arnold is a better show and experiance anyway!!!

I hope to find out all about the Arnold next year =)

[iroczinoz]

Well they can't let Dennis Wolf win he does not speak much English.

Victor is pretty quiet with the Microphone so they can't let him win.

Jay can talk so that is why he wins.

We might have to tell Dennis Wolf to take some English classes so he gets a fair go on the olympia stage.

What a friggin joke. I have been pi$$ed off for the last 2 days.

[paul2121]

Then you must be very new because it happens all the time. lol


X2<politics>

Arnold Classic>Mr.O

[CunnyFunt]

1 Jay Cutler
2 Victor Martinez
3 Dexter Jackson
4 Ronnie Coleman
5 Dennis James
6 Melvin Anthony
7 Silvio Samuel
8 Gustavo Badell
9 Johnnie Jackson
10 David Henry
NP Bill Wilmore
NP Branch Warren
NP Darrem Charles
NP Dennis Wolf
NP Desmond Miller
NP Eddie Abbew
NP Hidetada Yamagishi
NP Kai Greene
NP Marcus Haley
NP Mark Dugdale
NP Markus Ruhl
NP Phil Heath
NP Ronny Rockel
NP Sergey Shelestov
NP Toney Freeman
NP Vince Taylor
NP Will Harris


..Damnit BB.com

[rockyk86]

Layne Norton for Mr. O!

x2

[H2whoa]

anyone got pics of jay and wolf?

[Jamps]

1 Jay Cutler
2 Victor Martinez
3 Dexter Jackson
4 Ronnie Coleman
5 Dennis James
6 Melvin Anthony
7 Silvio Samuel
8 Gustavo Badell
9 Johnnie Jackson
10 David Henry
NP Bill Wilmore
NP Branch Warren
NP Darrem Charles
NP Dennis Wolf
NP Desmond Miller
NP Eddie Abbew
NP Hidetada Yamagishi
NP Kai Greene
NP Marcus Haley
NP Mark Dugdale
NP Markus Ruhl
NP Phil Heath
NP Ronny Rockel
NP Sergey Shelestov
NP Toney Freeman
NP Vince Taylor
NP Will Harris


..Damnit BB.com

BB.com FTW!!!!!!!

[iroczinoz]

No wonder Wolf got 5th they thought it was Dennis James.

or

They thought Wolf was Jay and gave Jay Wolf's score card.

[Natzo_PT]

lET?S SEE WHAT GOES AROUND IN EUROPE!

JUSTICE TO WOLF!

[Buff_Sloaney]

I'm gonna throw a spanner into the works and say **** yeah, Cutler deserved the 2007 crown...

[Jamps]

X2<politics>

Arnold Classic>Mr.O

Hey what show's are considered the BIG ones, other than Arnold Classic and Olympia?

[BIG CHUCKY]

in my opinion i agree with #1 & #2 but wolf got screwed out of #3 ronnie would have still been #4 and dexter would have been my #5. but like i said just my opinion!

[ronjr28]

If everyone listened carefully friday night during the pre-judging to Charles Glass and his commentary, we should have known this was predetermined. He was all over Jay's nuts when he came out as if he was even close to Vic, Wolf, or Dex?????? What shocked me was that he started saying Jay was IMPOSSIBLE to beat from the front!!!!!! WTF???? What in the F&^% did this happen????? Then it came to me, Charles Glass and Jay Cutler get a paycheck from the same MF's that presented the whole damn show in the first place, SICKENING......Just as much as Arnold deserved to win in his "comeback", or Dorian deserved to beat Shawn Ray when he came in injured....the signs and history have been there all along. They need to kill themselves, PERIOD.

[1baugh]

Rrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggggggg gggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeddddddddddddddddddddddddddd ddddd

[MuscleCuse]

It was amazing,we all saw it,quite possibly the most fixed sporting event in history went down last night. If it becomes available, watch the backstage interview with Jay Cutler,he isn't a good actor. He knew he lost that show,and so did Gunter. Unfortunately,i believe that if Victor Martinez had signed with Muscle tech,even a week before the Olympia,he would have won it. Notice who's logo is all over the stage,notice who sponsored the majority of the event. I think we need to look at the Arnold classic as the new Olympia unless we the fans can fix it. Ronnie Coleman is a god among men,he went out like a champ,while Jay Cutler went out like a chump. Notice how loose Victor is when they are announcing the winner,he knew he looked better than Jay. If we took it to court,we would win. In conclusion, To any athlete,who placed below jay cutler,you were robbed of your hard work,and hopefully you can redeem yourself with a win at a show thats not fixed.

[paulosportz]

It was amazing,we all saw it,quite possibly the most fixed sporting event in history went down last night. If it becomes available, watch the backstage interview with Jay Cutler,he isn't a good actor. He knew he lost that show,and so did Gunter. Unfortunately,i believe that if Victor Martinez had signed with Muscle tech,even a week before the Olympia,he would have won it. Notice who's logo is all over the stage,notice who sponsored the majority of the event. I think we need to look at the Arnold classic as the new Olympia unless we the fans can fix it. Ronnie Coleman is a god among men,he went out like a champ,while Jay Cutler went out like a chump. Notice how loose Victor is when they are announcing the winner,he knew he looked better than Jay. If we took it to court,we would win. In conclusion, To any athlete,who placed below jay cutler,you were robbed of your hard work,and hopefully you can redeem yourself with a win at a show thats not fixed.


x2

[Coal Man]

This is an absolute tragedy.

I feel so terrible for Victor, though I'm not terribly surprised that they made Cutler win.

[user23960508710783]

This is an absolute tragedy.

I feel so terrible for Victor, though I'm not terribly surprised that they made Cutler win.

x2 -- Wolf wasn't the only one who got screwed last night.

Martinez looked better than Cutler. WAY better.

[MightyMartae]

Yeah he did! They may have not let him win this year because he got locked up for that steroid bust, and with all the craig titus and steroid stuff in sports right now I think maybe the IFBB is trying to keep the feds off their backs as it is. Alot of things this year put a black eye on the sport in the public eye, but we all know it's really hard work and genetics that make a true freak the rest is just a suppliment.....

[10ThousandFists]

If everyone listened carefully friday night during the pre-judging to Charles Glass and his commentary, we should have known this was predetermined. He was all over Jay's nuts when he came out as if he was even close to Vic, Wolf, or Dex?????? What shocked me was that he started saying Jay was IMPOSSIBLE to beat from the front!!!!!! WTF???? What in the F&^% did this happen????? Then it came to me, Charles Glass and Jay Cutler get a paycheck from the same MF's that presented the whole damn show in the first place, SICKENING......Just as much as Arnold deserved to win in his "comeback", or Dorian deserved to beat Shawn Ray when he came in injured....the signs and history have been there all along. They need to kill themselves, PERIOD.

I cringed throught the entire commentary by Glass to be honest.

[MightyMartae]

x2 -- Wolf wasn't the only one who got screwed last night.

Martinez looked better than Cutler. WAY better.


Yeah i feel exaclty the same way...

[user23960508710783]

I cringed throught the entire commentary by Glass to be honest.

"You gotta understand . . ."

I know what you mean.

Gunter > Charles.

[kethnaab]

This is an absolute tragedy.

I feel so terrible for Victor, though I'm not terribly surprised that they made Cutler win.

"If you got the money, honey, we got your disease...."

[TheSheepdog]

It was amazing,we all saw it,quite possibly the most fixed sporting event in history went down last night. If it becomes available, watch the backstage interview with Jay Cutler,he isn't a good actor. He knew he lost that show,and so did Gunter. Unfortunately,i believe that if Victor Martinez had signed with Muscle tech,even a week before the Olympia,he would have won it. Notice who's logo is all over the stage,notice who sponsored the majority of the event. I think we need to look at the Arnold classic as the new Olympia unless we the fans can fix it. Ronnie Coleman is a god among men,he went out like a champ,while Jay Cutler went out like a chump. Notice how loose Victor is when they are announcing the winner,he knew he looked better than Jay. If we took it to court,we would win. In conclusion, To any athlete,who placed below jay cutler,you were robbed of your hard work,and hopefully you can redeem yourself with a win at a show thats not fixed.

THAT'S WHY CHARLES GLASS HOSTED THE SHOW AND WAS GIVING ALL THE MUSCLETECH ATHLETE'S PROP'S AND WAS SAYING EVERYONE ELSE WAS OFF..WTF, HES A MUSCLETECH ATHLETE

[LUKEDEICHER]

I'm gonna throw a spanner into the works and say **** yeah, Cutler deserved the 2007 crown...

It is sad you were put in the red for that opinion. Although the vast majority of bb.com posters disagree, you shouldn't be punished for your thoughts.


This is an absolute tragedy.

I feel so terrible for Victor, though I'm not terribly surprised that they made Cutler win.


x2 -- Wolf wasn't the only one who got screwed last night.

Martinez looked better than Cutler. WAY better.

Well guys at least we know what to look for next year. If Jay 2 week out pics are posted and they are great, well lights out and save the trip for the excitement.


THAT'S WHY CHARLES GLASS HOSTED THE SHOW AND WAS GIVING ALL THE MUSCLETECH ATHLETE'S PROP'S AND WAS SAYING EVERYONE ELSE WAS OFF..WTF, HES A MUSCLETECH ATHLETE

That was my first thought before the results were announced. There were little nitrotech(brownie) points everywhere in the O for MT because of the sponsorship. I know that MT has a ton of money and the IFBB isn't rich, but with this years record attendance expenses could have been covered.

I think the IFBB stabed themselves in the back with this competition and giving it to MT in everyway. Sure it was probobaly some nice mula given out on MT's part, but how many fans are going to attend next year and what does this do to the organizations credibility.

This year was finally a great, suspenseful, O with record attendance. Off to a great new start as a sport, now we might move backwards.

[user23960508710783]

THAT'S WHY CHARLES GLASS HOSTED THE SHOW AND WAS GIVING ALL THE MUSCLETECH ATHLETE'S PROP'S AND WAS SAYING EVERYONE ELSE WAS OFF..WTF, HES A MUSCLETECH ATHLETE

I agree that there might be something to this.

His commentary is obviously going to be slanted. It would be like Karl Rove giving political commentary: what do you THINK he would say?

Gunter > Glass

Bob > Gunter > Glass

Bob > Gunter > Anyone but Glass > Glass

[He-Man]

It was amazing,we all saw it,quite possibly the most fixed sporting event in history went down last night. If it becomes available, watch the backstage interview with Jay Cutler,he isn't a good actor. He knew he lost that show,and so did Gunter. Unfortunately,i believe that if Victor Martinez had signed with Muscle tech,even a week before the Olympia,he would have won it. Notice who's logo is all over the stage,notice who sponsored the majority of the event. I think we need to look at the Arnold classic as the new Olympia unless we the fans can fix it. Ronnie Coleman is a god among men,he went out like a champ,while Jay Cutler went out like a chump. Notice how loose Victor is when they are announcing the winner,he knew he looked better than Jay. If we took it to court,we would win. In conclusion, To any athlete,who placed below jay cutler,you were robbed of your hard work,and hopefully you can redeem yourself with a win at a show thats not fixed.

x3

Jay had more skin on his lower back them my ****in nut sack.....we'll call Jaw Scrotum Culet......big headed fool.

Muscletech bought the win for Jaw - Victor is the true champ, we all know it. He just didn't get the chedar.....but he's still the ASC champ. Hey, how bout Jaw brings his scrotum back to the ASC in March 08 and challenge Victor - be a real man?????

[stealth_swimmer]

If everyone listened carefully friday night during the pre-judging to Charles Glass and his commentary, we should have known this was predetermined. He was all over Jay's nuts when he came out as if he was even close to Vic, Wolf, or Dex?????? What shocked me was that he started saying Jay was IMPOSSIBLE to beat from the front!!!!!! WTF???? What in the F&^% did this happen????? Then it came to me, Charles Glass and Jay Cutler get a paycheck from the same MF's that presented the whole damn show in the first place, SICKENING......Just as much as Arnold deserved to win in his "comeback", or Dorian deserved to beat Shawn Ray when he came in injured....the signs and history have been there all along. They need to kill themselves, PERIOD.

Jay is harder than just about anyone from the front. His back conditioning is his weak point. I don't think Charles meant shape wise, just conditioning wise.

[ssouthbeach14]

Bull****!!!!!!!


Vic #1
Wolf #2

Ffs

the arnold show is the best show all around.......

[Kovalchuk]

Jay is harder than just about anyone from the front. His back conditioning is his weak point. I don't think Charles meant shape wise, just conditioning wise.

HARDER FROM THE FRONT!?!?!?!?

YOU ARE KILLING ME! He looked like a pillow case dipped in water! DAMN!

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc243/kovalchuk_17/SOFTYSOFTY.jpg

[BloodnGuts]

No muscle separation in the arms...looks like a big blob!

[Big N Ripped]

No muscle separation in the arms...looks like a big blob!

Go to the tread "Jay vs Victor comparison with pics". Jay won clearly.
Take a look at those pics, and STFU !!

[user23960508710783]

I'm still in a rage about this Olympia.

I feel sick every time I think about it, and I just want to puke -- preferably all over someone from MuscleTech.

The results were bad enough. But to hear Cutler get up and brag about being the best bodybuilder on the planet in his victory speech, and then brag about how even at 80% he is better than everyone else, on the PBW show, I feel like a total idiot for supporting that guy all those years.

It just adds insult to injury to watch him behave this way. He used to be such a nice guy, too.

[antish]

I think in a few days/weeks people might be able to make some more logical comclusions about it after we can all look atthe pictures and compare.
post the pics anytime you want buddy...the conclusion is the same.

[Loctus]

Jay should not have been top 4.

[user23960508710783]

Jay should not have been top 4.

Agreed 100% -- he looks worse everytime I see a photo of him.

[sikboy]

Bull****!!!!!!!


Vic #1
Wolf #2

Ffs

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[Guardian]

It is sad you were put in the red for that opinion. Although the vast majority of bb.com posters disagree, you shouldn't be punished for your thoughts.





Well guys at least we know what to look for next year. If Jay 2 week out pics are posted and they are great, well lights out and save the trip for the excitement.



That was my first thought before the results were announced. There were little nitrotech(brownie) points everywhere in the O for MT because of the sponsorship. I know that MT has a ton of money and the IFBB isn't rich, but with this years record attendance expenses could have been covered.

I think the IFBB stabed themselves in the back with this competition and giving it to MT in everyway. Sure it was probobaly some nice mula given out on MT's part, but how many fans are going to attend next year and what does this do to the organizations credibility.

This year was finally a great, suspenseful, O with record attendance. Off to a great new start as a sport, now we might move backwards.


People will still go, its just like the wwe so many people are anrgy how long Cena has been champ but there anger keeps them watching thats part of the idea lol.

[LSU1]

I'm still in a rage about this Olympia.

I feel sick every time I think about it, and I just want to puke -- preferably all over someone from MuscleTech.

The results were bad enough. But to hear Cutler get up and brag about being the best bodybuilder on the planet in his victory speech, and then brag about how even at 80% he is better than everyone else, on the PBW show, I feel like a total idiot for supporting that guy all those years.

It just adds insult to injury to watch him behave this way. He used to be such a nice guy, too.

got a link to this speech?

[BB fanatic]

This is just sad people!!!!!
I have not agreed with the judges over many choices over the last 8 or 9 Olympias but, I never bitch so much as you guys.
The fact is that both the pre judging and final posedowns count at the end. Jay came to the finals dry and complete. The fact he won last year ; of course automatically gave him an advantage. Just Like Coleman had an advantage over his tenure as Mr. Olympia.
Victor was great but, still not better overrall .
Wolf was incredible and in the next couple of Olympia's he will be in the top 4 if not 3.
Competitors that got screwed in my veiw where Johnnie Jackson and Gustav Badell.(chew on that)