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HCK858
05-16-2005, 10:54 AM
Today was Day 1, i weighed in at 168, I took 1 cap (10mg) this morning about 30-45 before working out with breakfast and pre WO shake.
Today was shoulders/traps, nothing special to report yet, i have been platued for a while and today i got my lifting partner back and up the weight. I got in a few extra reps on all my sets even with the increased weight. Im going to say its mental though, and the fact that if i got stuck my buddy would help me get the last couple. Even if the SD hasnt really kicked in yet it still put me in the state of mind to believe i had an edge, i was pretty focused, and all n all i would say it was a good workout
plinx0r
05-16-2005, 02:04 PM
I'll be watching this log along with all the other SD logs. Anxious to see how things turn out for you.
I have a few quick questions for you. What does your cycle look like? What are you planning on PCT? What other supps are you taking along with the SD?
HCK858
05-16-2005, 03:51 PM
i dont know what my cycle is going to look like yet to tell the truth. its only going to be 3-3.5 weeks due to the fact that most people say gains stop around that time, but as far as dosages im going to play it by ear. i would love to do 10/10/10 and save more for next time, but if i feel more is needed, i might run 10/10/20 or 10/20/20... i will be comparing my results after 7 or 8 days to others and if i feel like they are sufficient i will leave it, if not i will bump it up. As far as PCT goes, i would of liked to get nolva, most of the experienced people on here prefer it. Rebound XT is cheap and easily attainable though so thats what i ended up going with. Most people complain of joint pain, and say rebound actually works too good and suppresses their estrogen too much. Ive noticed most of these complaints come from people running 75+mgs/3 tabs, so i was planning on a split that looks like 50/50/25/25, im still waiting on a few opinions from people that are knowledgable on these boards to tell me what they think, but that seems like what its going to be for me, i may do 75/50/25/25 and if i experience joint pain ill knock it down to 50. once again, i see no need for overkill and i dont want to over suppress estrogen levels. The other supps im using are ON's 100% whey, NOW's 12 pound complex carbs, BN Cee, Multi, Fish oil, and Prim forces lean green (i know most people use green tea extracts when cutting, but from my experience and others it doesnt hinder gains when bulking, it just adds to your overall health) I try to take in at least 300 grams of protein a day, 90-100 grams from shakes and the rest from things like tuna, turkey, roast beef, lean ground beef, chicken, eggs, beef jerky, penuts, and penut butter. hopefully this helped answer a few questions, ill be posting daily. so feel free to ask anything else.
EDIT: i forgot to mention i actually spoke to a rep for Designer supplements and they told me rebound XT should be fine for pct, and they said if anything i might want to get a mild liver protectant. i have to admit im being pretty lazy and havnt gotten anything yet. most people dont have problems with their liver anyways though, it all has to do with cholesterol.
Nathan1
05-16-2005, 03:59 PM
nolva is just as cheap and as easily attainable, and no, don't ask....and how tall are you?!
HCK858
05-16-2005, 04:31 PM
the question is... how short am I, im only 5'8'' and a little light right now, i just recently finished cutting... but its ok, and yeah nolva was easily attainable when i was at home, but i went away to college for a year, (now im transfering back to san diego) and ive got no means of getting it where im at right now, and its not neccessarily cheaper, it depends on who you get it from, at home i could go get it myself for very cheap but that source died out and prices have gone up a little.
HCK858
05-17-2005, 10:50 AM
day 2: Arms... wow, most intense Arms workout ive had in about a year, i simply bought superdrol for the lean muscle mass gains but i think it has an effect on your focus. Im usually prety skeptical about these things and i would like to think that up to this point its all mental, but im not sure because ive been more focused in school as well. ive been dicking around in a math class the whole semester and i basically sat down like some determined coke head and learned everything is about 6 hours yesterday... i dont know. anyways back ot the workout. I upped my weight in all my excercises and had on average 2 more reps. With my partner we always force 2 at the end but for example if i got to 6 reps last week he would push me to 8, well this week, with increased weight, i would get to 8 reps and he would push me to 10. i had great pumps. and like i said before awesome focus. i didnt weigh in today because i dont like watching it everyday, ill probably check at the end of the week. i head great energy through out the whole workout and i made sure to drink lots of water.
Splant
05-17-2005, 11:57 AM
Great log man, this is definately going to help me decide if I will take Superdrol. Sounds good so far. EDIT Just read about your PCT, what do you think about Rebound possibly messing up the lipids even more, I have read that it could do that?
sean
HCK858
05-17-2005, 12:07 PM
yeah im aware of supressing too much estrogen and than having joints pian and my cholesterol all messed up. I did my own research and talked with some pretty experienced guys on here. Rebound shouldnt be that bad, when sides are listed such as your lipids getting messed up, it doesnt necessarily mean its going to happen. Its a possiblilty, but it may or may not happen so you really just need to weigh your risks. I personally dont mind if my cholestoral is bad for a month if at all where as someone else might. I dont expect to get joint pain because im only going to run rebound at 50mg a day and have a split thats like 50/50/25/25 or as it was suggested to me 50/50/25/12.5/12.5.... for the 12.5 i would have to break the caps up and the rebound probably tastes like **** but you gotta do what you gotta do, either way im not extremely worried about it, rebound is a good product, and there are possible side effects. i thnk people on these boards tend to think that any and all possible side effects will occur which is not the case, everyones body is different. so far i am very impressed with the initial results of this product, and i feel like by the end of the week, maybe day 8 or 9, i should have a good feel for it.
superdrol is okay...i mean we cant really complain too much..at least its still available which is a godsend after the big ban..if i could wish upon a star or something..id wish they left M1T alone and took away the superdrol..as it is..i stocked up on the M1T anyway before the ban..and made damn sure i had some MDien and Mohn to boot..I tossed in a goodly number of the M-Dht also...but i AM relieved to have some superdrol left to purchase on the internet...i felt SO CHEATED to have those substances banned..I wanted to BAN the entire world after that...but we bodyshapers are cunningly resilient and find ways around everything...there are always other avenues..So remember that superdrol is almost like methylated 5 alpha..and is like a masteron rather than an anadrol 50..you really(i do anyway) have to hike the dosages to get a pleasant effect from SD.Im currently taking 50 mgs daily with Mohn at 10 mgs and MDien at 3 mgs concurrently and am starting to get some size back..M1T at 40 mgs daily works better than everything stacked but too many unpleasant sides from it..my bi's are about at 22" now..used to be larger than that..im weighing about 210 to 215 and am about 5'8"..bodyfat is about 10%...
HCK858
05-17-2005, 11:37 PM
superdrol is okay...i mean we cant really complain too much..at least its still available which is a godsend after the big ban..if i could wish upon a star or something..id wish they left M1T alone and took away the superdrol..as it is..i stocked up on the M1T anyway before the ban..and made damn sure i had some MDien and Mohn to boot..I tossed in a goodly number of the M-Dht also...but i AM relieved to have some superdrol left to purchase on the internet...i felt SO CHEATED to have those substances banned..I wanted to BAN the entire world after that...but we bodyshapers are cunningly resilient and find ways around everything...there are always other avenues..So remember that superdrol is almost like methylated 5 alpha..and is like a masteron rather than an anadrol 50..you really(i do anyway) have to hike the dosages to get a pleasant effect from SD.Im currently taking 50 mgs daily with Mohn at 10 mgs and MDien at 3 mgs concurrently and am starting to get some size back..M1T at 40 mgs daily works better than everything stacked but too many unpleasant sides from it..my bi's are about at 22" now..used to be larger than that..im weighing about 210 to 215 and am about 5'8"..bodyfat is about 10%...
thanks for the input. Im not opposed to upping my doasage but other have seen good gains by starting and maintaing 10 mg's a day for a little bit so i figure i would do that first, im not opposed to 20 and under the right circumstances 30 mg's a day although i see no reason in going above that. Anyways, im playing it by ear for now.
HCK858
05-18-2005, 10:42 AM
DAY 3: AB's/ Off day... I dont like to throw abs in on my other training days so i just do it on my off day. Anyways i usually do hanging leg raises and some decline bench sit ups, i also do variations on both of these for obliques. I see progression in my ab strength from week to week, but today it was godly. Usually i can only do 2 full sets of leg raises, then my abs tend to putter out and i start "throwing" my legs and am unable to use a negative for the 3rd set. Well today not only could i keep good form and hit 10-12 solid reps with negatives on all sets but i did 4 sets total, followed by three hanging leg raise variations to the side, then on the decline bench we (my partner and i) can usually only do 1 set to failure and we're toast. He did his 1 set to failure which was all of 8 reps and i did 3 sets of 15 reps on a pretty steep incline. Anyways, i had much improved ab strength today, and the pump on them was great, when bulking its nearly impossible for me to see my abs but when i got home i looked in the mirror and sure enough they were popping through. I still wish i could say this was all mental, but im starting to think more and more that this superdrol is the real deal. But i also want to stress my diet is nearly perfect and i train hard every day... in other words, i dont know how much a supplement is going to do for you unless you are putting it into a well oiled machine. Tommorow is Legs which should be a real test of strength, and Ill probably weigh in on friday or saturday to give an update on that. grade up to this point : A - very satisfied
bigbrit
05-19-2005, 09:37 AM
Keep up the good work mate, i'll be watching with interest...
HCK858
05-20-2005, 07:22 PM
Days 4/5: Day 4, sorry i didnt post, i had some company from out of town and never got around to it, anyways, i went up 20 pounds on squats, which isnt a whole lot when you consider how much weight you do with your legs, but its still a fairly substantial amount and im very happy with it. Pumped out at least 2 extra reps on dead lifts and leg extensions as well. I tried using a new calf machine because half our gym was blocked off due to problems so i dont know how to mesure that but all in all it was a good workout. Day 5, Chest.....awesome is all that needs to be said, i had huge pumps going, I increased on my dumbells on flat bench by 10 pounds in each arm which is quite a bit, i went up 5 and decided to push myself with my spotter and i was gettin 6 reps on my own, 8 with a spot going 10 pounds heavier then a week ago. this was great. i had energy throughout my whole workout, i wasnt as focused as i was durring arms the other day, but ive had alot of **** on my mind. It was still a great chest workout, improved weight on my flat dumbell bench and incline barbell bench, then i did flys and dips... seems like i had unlimited reps on the dips. so far im still very satisfied with the product. I wasnt going to weigh in until tommorow morning but i was tempted so i went in today. ive put on 3 and a half pounds, and i must say my arms and shoulders look alot more chisseld already.
bigbrit
05-21-2005, 02:45 AM
Good weight increases, what's your training spilt?
& weights?
HCK858
05-21-2005, 08:48 PM
I train day 1 legs, day 2 chest, day 3 back, day 4 off/abs, day 5 shoulders, day 6 arms, day 7 off abs
today was my 6th day on cycle,(not the same as day 6 above) and i did back. I didnt have a training partner today, but i still made inscreases in weight, i pushed up an extra 10 pounds on deadlifts. I made good gains on my wide grip pull ups, i got a few extra treps in each set, although i would of loved to have my partner there today to get in 2 or 3 more. I also added more weight to my barbell row, seated cable row, and close/nuetral grip pull downs. I had a great pump today and when doing things like dead lifts i didnt get any painful pumps in my lower back so im going to increase my dosage to 20 mg's a day for the next two weeks, if its too intense i will be doing 10/20/10/20... and alternating the dose each day.
HCK858
05-23-2005, 04:13 PM
Days 7&8 - day 7 *Increased dose to 20 mg/day* was abs, once again i had enough strength to get through all of the hanging leg raises and burn out with some decline bench sit ups. I got a nice pump and its good to see the abs pop through, even in a bulking phase. Day 8 - Shoulders, this was the first muscle getting hit for the second time while on the cycle so i was anxious to see if results were better again. I went up another 5 pounds on my overhead dumbbell presses, and i went up 2.5 pounds on my lateral raises for the first 2 sets (I had to drop it back down to keep good form), same goes for my cable lateral raises (i like to hit the medial head hard) I also upped the weight on my rear delt raises 2.5 pounds. I had a great pump going and experienced my first set of "painful pumps" My shoulders were so ****in capped, it felt like they were inflated and they looked nice. i would describe the pain as almost like a muscle strain... its nothing you cant handle though. I moved on to traps and i was stoked to try and add to this because i feel like my traps lag the most out of anything on my body. Warm up and first set were fine and relativly easy so i upped the weight, i was doing barbell shrugs with the bar in front of me, anyways on one of my upward motions i pinched my dick with the bar and it caught me off gaurd and i made a bit of a jerk with my body and i pulled my left trap.. at least i think its the trap... whatever muslce it is, its not on the upper part of the trap(neck area) but rather more down by the shoulder blade. it hurts like a bitch right now. I finished out the workout and did some seated dumbell shrugs but i went relativley light because of the pull. Tommorow is arms day and hopefully i feel better in the morning, if not ill have to throw on an icy hot patch and just hope i can hit arms hard, ill probably check my weight again tommorow as well .
italionstallion
05-23-2005, 04:16 PM
thats a bummer, so does your johnson hurt more than your shoulder?
hopefully it will heal so we can see how your results are, good luck
HCK858
05-24-2005, 11:11 AM
Day 9 - Arms, first i weighed in and im up another 2 pounds which means at the beggining of the 9th day im up 6 pounds... Im really stoked about that. Ok now onto the work out... Started with triceps, i usually only do 3 excercises to avoid overtraining, and im pretty good with being able to know when my arms are shot, anyways i did close grip bench, 4 sets, reps of 6-8, weight was up 5 pounds from last week. then i did some skulls, i kept the weight the same as last week, but still got a solid 3 sets of 7-10 reps, usually i would go to dips at this time but i was feelin good so i did 3 sets of straight bar push downs at a weight 10 pounds heavier than before, then went and did 2 sets of dips, let me just say -- not only are my muscles looking bigger and more defined but they feel alot harder. Then i moved onto biceps, did some heavy dumbell curls, 3 sets, reps of 6-8, my weights were up 5 pounds from last week, then i went to EZ bar curl, 3 sets, 6-8 reps, my strength was up, i kept the weight the same as last week, but i was getting it up easier, i only used my partner for the last rep as opposed to the last 2 or 3 last week. I went into hammers after this and some piece of **** was using the weights i wanted so i kept it the same as last week ( he said someone else already asked if they could use them) anyways i just turned it into more of a concentration hammer with heavy negatives to try and negate the lighter weight. Just like my triceps the muscle was feeling alot more dense and is definately looking bigger. I really am still amazed at how good this product is working, the only thing im affraid of is stretch marks. when i used AAS two years ago i got alot of stretch marks on my chest/shoulder area and biceps. ive been feeling so swollen at the gym that im pretty sure its bound to happen again unless i get some lotion, anyways -- thumbs up on this product, and i hope to atleast gain another 6 pounds by day 21
HCK858
05-25-2005, 10:36 AM
Day 10 - off/abs -- Amazing ab work out today, you would think due to the bulking that you wouldnt be able to tell but this superdrol gives my abs such a great pump that i would have to say this is probably the best my stomach has looked in a while. now just resting until legs tommorow
Splant
05-25-2005, 03:36 PM
Awsome log so far man.....keep it up
Sean
butanelord
05-25-2005, 05:49 PM
stretch marks on SD, sweet. Keep it up!
HCK858
05-26-2005, 11:10 AM
Day 11 - Chest (out of order due to partner leaving) Today was supposed to be legs but my partner is leaving and insisted he hit chest because he has no appreciation for lower body... anyways ill be on my own for legs tommorow which sucks, because i wanted to really push my self on squats but oh well, maybe ill find someone in the gym. Anyways, chest was awesome today. I kept the weight the same as last week, but my strength is way up, instead of struggling after 6 and getting forced reps up to 8, i threw up 9 reps on my first set by myself on flat bench dumbells and got up 8 and then 7 on my own the next two sets, instead of doing incline bench next i used one of the machines by hammer strength that is designed to help build the "top shelf" or upper portion of your chest, i feel this is what lacks on me, as it does for most people, the most. I just put on 2 plates on each side, it was a fairly moderate weight, i could of gone heavier, but i was really trying to hold and squeeze at the top. After this i did flyes followed by dips. My reps in all 3 sets of dips were up. All in all, i had improved strength in all excercises, my pumps were great, and endurance was good. I never feel like "oh i need to get out of the gym" or "i wish this was over"...although i usually never do because working out is fun for me, i would say SD makes its that much better when you see the rapid gains from week to week and get the great pumps.
Nitrus3825
05-26-2005, 08:15 PM
great log man
solarize
05-26-2005, 11:59 PM
If your drinking enough water, throwing some mositure into your skin and getting your vitamin E I cant see how your going to get stretch marks on SD?
Unless your putting on 10 kilos in two weeks or more.. you shouldnt get stretch marks.
Then again, if you put it all on around your belly/waist you will, but I dont think your doing that.
Good luk!
HCK858
05-27-2005, 08:18 AM
sorry if i made it sound like i was gettin stretch marks already, i meant to say i feel as if im going to get them, ive got really bad stretch marks on my legs, chest, and biceps from using AAS awhile ago. But the rapid growth im experiencing remindes me of that, and its coming on so fast that i would be surprised if i got stretch marks.
HCK858
05-27-2005, 08:18 AM
day 12 - legs - Awesome work out today, i didnt have a spot, so i couldnt go super heavy on squats, but i got in a good 5 sets with the same weight i used last week, i was able to go parallel till at least my 6th rep on all sets which was really good. I only really had trouble on the last set. I went up on weight no problem on my leg extensions and hamstring curls. I wanted to do some deads but there were already 2 people waiting for the rack by the time i came back to it so i just went straight to calf's... probably got the biggest pump here, granted i cant see my hamstrings and i dont really like to check out my quads in the middle of the gym, my calf's just exploded today, i just threw 2 plates on each side of a smith machine and put down a wood block and pumped away at some standing raises. I have definately seen improvement in my calf size, i know this is important, because like me, alot of people find it had to build their calf's. overall i had yet another day of increased strength, great pumps, and increased reps. tommorow is back day :-)
HCK858
05-28-2005, 06:07 PM
day 13- Back- Started the Day with 4 sets of pull ups to failure, each varied and i usually like to get 8 with a really slow negative but my partner is still out of town so i just did what i could. Next i was going to do some barbell rows but decided to use the T bar instead, i increased 10 pounds in weight and got off 3 killer sets. I then went and did some cable rows, i also inscreased 10 pounds on here as well. On these i usually like to do no less then 8 and i hold and squeeze for about 2 seconds at the top of each rep so it was good to see i didnt lose form when i increased the weight... i guess im still getting stronger. Next i did some reverse grip lat pull downs, up 10 pounds as well for all 3 sets. I had nice pumps going in the lats as well. Then i finished up with deadlifts, i actually went up 20 pounds on dead lifts for all 3 sets, my rep range varied from 6-8 but still felt great. Ive had no problem with the "painful lower back pumps" and it has crossed my mind whether or not to up the dosage to 30 to the final week but im about 99% sure i wont. i figure im seeing great gains and i may as well save the higher doses for the next cycle... no reason for over kill. great workout today although the gloomy weather puts me in a ****ty mood and i feel like it ****s with my focus...
HCK858
05-30-2005, 02:52 PM
Day 14 & 15 - 14, My gym closed early on sunday and i wasnt aware of that until i got there... luckily it was my off/abs day so i just went home and did a few at home things... i really like to gauge my strength and size gains for abs based on my in the gym routine because i feel like my leg raises and decline bench crunches are better than anything i can do at home. Anyways, on to the good stuff, day 15, also the third time doing shoulders/traps while on cycle, unfortunatly my workout partner doesnt get back until tonight, so i didnt have him to spot me, but i kept my weight the same as last week and i was able to get it up with out him. Shoulder presses i was doing 7-9 reps with the same weight i used last week no problem..if i would of had my spotter there today i would of increased the weight another 5 pounds... oh well theres always next week, i plan on running this cycle for 24 days, that way i can get shoulders and arms in 1 more time before gains start to taper off. but back to the shoulder workout, after presses i went into seated lateral raises, maintained the same weight as last week although i squeezed out about 3-5 more reps on each set. next i did some cable lateral raises ( i like to hit the medial delt hard ), although i didnt increase weight this week, i added about 5 reps to each set which was nice. Next i did rear delts, my strength increased amazingly here since last week for some reason, i was up only 5 pounds on each excercise, but for rear delts at the end of the shoulder work out it was pretty impressive. i increased weight and reps so i was happy. All through out i had a great pump going, my shoulders were looking huge! After this i went into traps, did 3 sets of heavy barbell shrugs 3-5 reps, i pulled my muscle on this excercise last week, this week i was ok though, then i went to seat dumbell shrugs, i increased weight 5 pounds and kept reps in the same range. i had a great pump going in traps. felt good, looked even better. i do have DISCOURAGING news though, i hopped on the scale pre-work out and i havnt gained a pound in the last 4 days, who knows what this is due to.. maybe i **** earlier i dont know, or maybe i was peeing alot, either way still great size and strength gains, it just wasnt showing on the scale today, this leaves me at 6 pounds heavier then when i first started... im still hoping to grab another 4 pounds by the end of the cycle.
OaksDaMan
05-30-2005, 10:33 PM
This is a freakin awesome log man! I was wondering if when you started your cycle you had a major increase in a need for water. I just started my cycle (on day 3) and can't get enough which sucks because I have to pee every 5 minutes (not really, but it seems like it). Anyways, keep up the great work!
HCK858
05-31-2005, 12:08 AM
i pretty much drink water as a habit already so it wasnt too bad, i just drink water when im bored i guess you could say. anyways, the first week is funny because the SD initially has that diuretic (sp?) effect where i really feel like it strips off your water for the first few days and you just look totally shredded. its pretty nice, too bad it doesnt stay that way. anyways good luck to you.
HCK858
05-31-2005, 09:43 PM
day 16 - Arms - Well today was another awesome work out, i went up 10 pounds in my close grip bench, skulls stayed about the same in weight but i pushed out all good reps, straight bar push down was kept on the same weight but i could get 7 or 8 easily on my own, so ill increase for sure next week. Finished up with dips with a slow negative... basically had a great pump going on my tri's, i even got a comment from a gym buddy that my arms were lookin like they were gettin bigger before i even started bi's. Bi's were great today, all my weight stayed the same except i went up 5 pounds on my EZ bar curl. I dont get painful pumps in my arms, but i honestly do feel like my bi's are about to explode, the veins are just ripping through my skin durring my entire arm work out and certain ones on the inside of my elbow area start to turn purple, i swear it looks like they are going to pop. either way, arm workouts feel like they are getting better with each week. pump and strength both up once again.
plinx0r
06-01-2005, 07:25 AM
Great log man, keep up the good work. I can't wait to hear your final impressions.
Splant
06-01-2005, 09:52 AM
Any chance you are going to post before and after pics? If not still a great log. Mine should be here Monday and I cannot wait...Actually my roomates should be here today, might have to steal some until then :)
Sean
HCK858
06-01-2005, 11:26 PM
i will post pics, i just need to know how
bigbrit
06-02-2005, 12:39 AM
Your log has been great and makes my Superdrol still sitting in my kitchen cupboard look rather attractive....
Check this out though, this is worrying.
#20 before & after blood work.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=476018
Are you going to get any blood work done?
After seeing this i'm contemplating.....
HCK858
06-02-2005, 09:20 AM
i can probably manage to get some done, i actually had blood work done around a month or month and a half ago when i ended up in the hospital because i partied a little too hard one night. the values on that could be skewed although they never brought up the blood work so im assuming it was ok? anyways i wonder why this guy only gained 3 pounds... we'll see, im really not to worried about it.. I dont even know how significant those levels are, he seemed pretty upset with them, but i dont have any field of referance so im not sure how bad those actually were. either way, if blood work did show somthing negative, i would do whatever is necessary to have it adjusted. ill post later today about yesterdays abs and todays legs workout.
HCK858
06-03-2005, 11:09 AM
ok 3 days to report..sorry i have finals coming up and its been hectic. Either way days 17,18, and 19 are as follows - 17 - Abs, great strength added with each workout as my hanging leg raises become easier with every lift.. and im still finding it amazing with how big of a pump you actually get in your abs, they just rip through your stomach durring workouts. Either way, i would say improved strength and very similar workout to my other ab workouts. day 18 - legs - probably the best legs day ive had, no partner again which pissed me off but i still upped the weight on squats by 10 pounds. i pushed out at least 8 reps on all sets even with the increased weight which impressed me because i go about parallel on each squat. i value form, so im not sure about you guys but most of the time i see others doing 300 pounds but they are "half squats".. I wont sacrifice form or range of motion so i can claim a higher number. any way after squats i did some quad extensions where i went up 10 pounds and had great muscle stamina, seemed like my legs wouldnt tire until around the 7th rep so i was actually getting up to 10 and 11 fairly easy.After this is did hamstring curls where my weight improved 10 pounds as well. for calves i just through 2 plates on each side of a smith machine and basically do 4 sets to failure... great pumps on the calves once again. ive said it before but i want to restate that i am on of the people who just doesnt have calves, and now ive got some pretty thick diamond shaped muscle back there. im very impressed. day 19- chest, awesome workout, although strength didnt increase i was throwing out good reps on all exercises and had great pumps going, this superdrol gives insane pumps, i just cant get over it. anyways it was a good workout all in all. i do have 2 OTHER things to report, first I am up another 1 and half pounds, and it doesnt seem to look like ive put on much body fat, but ill have to get that checked. and also i experience what appears to be my first SIDE -- my nuts seem like they have finally shrank up a little and last night they were killing me, anyways i woke up this morning and my nuts still hurt, basically it feels like blue balls just not as instense.. i couldnt figure out what to do so i just decided to bust a load this morning before hittin up the gym and sure enough thats all i needed. i feel great right now. i guess my sex drive has decreased a little bit, as i havnt felt the need to masterbate or anything like that, im sure once i start rebound and im back with my girlfriend everything will be back to normal, so ill keep you guys updated on that.
bigbrit
06-03-2005, 11:17 AM
ok 3 days to report..sorry i have finals coming up and its been hectic. Either way days 17,18, and 19 are as follows - 17 - Abs, great strength added with each workout as my hanging leg raises become easier with every lift.. and im still finding it amazing with how big of a pump you actually get in your abs, they just rip through your stomach durring workouts. Either way, i would say improved strength and very similar workout to my other ab workouts. day 18 - legs - probably the best legs day ive had, no partner again which pissed me off but i still upped the weight on squats by 10 pounds. i pushed out at least 8 reps on all sets even with the increased weight which impressed me because i go about parallel on each squat. i value form, so im not sure about you guys but most of the time i see others doing 300 pounds but they are "half squats".. I wont sacrifice form or range of motion so i can claim a higher number. any way after squats i did some quad extensions where i went up 10 pounds and had great muscle stamina, seemed like my legs wouldnt tire until around the 7th rep so i was actually getting up to 10 and 11 fairly easy.After this is did hamstring curls where my weight improved 10 pounds as well. for calves i just through 2 plates on each side of a smith machine and basically do 4 sets to failure... great pumps on the calves once again. ive said it before but i want to restate that i am on of the people who just doesnt have calves, and now ive got some pretty thick diamond shaped muscle back there. im very impressed. day 19- chest, awesome workout, although strength didnt increase i was throwing out good reps on all exercises and had great pumps going, this superdrol gives insane pumps, i just cant get over it. anyways it was a good workout all in all. i do have 2 OTHER things to report, first I am up another 1 and half pounds, and it doesnt seem to look like ive put on much body fat, but ill have to get that checked. and also i experience what appears to be my first SIDE -- my nuts seem like they have finally shrank up a little and last night they were killing me, anyways i woke up this morning and my nuts still hurt, basically it feels like blue balls just not as instense.. i couldnt figure out what to do so i just decided to bust a load this morning before hittin up the gym and sure enough thats all i needed. i feel great right now. i guess my sex drive has decreased a little bit, as i havnt felt the need to masterbate or anything like that, im sure once i start rebound and im back with my girlfriend everything will be back tommorow, so ill keep you guys updated on that.
Just the Superdrol dude... lol
What Abs work do you do and how often?
HCK858
06-03-2005, 03:57 PM
well i have a 5 day split in which the first 3 days i hit legs, chest, and back, then i have an off day and i do abs on my off days, then i do shoulders/arms for days 4 and 5 of the split and then another off day on which i do abs. for abs i usually do 4 sets of hanging legs raises, then 3 sets of leg raises to the side (obliques) then i got to a decline bench and do sit ups where i go left side/middle/right side/middle repeat and i do 3 sets each one to failure just to burn out abs/obliques, i find thats really all i need, i know alot of people will work on abs for an hour or so and some only give it 5 minutes, I usually take 15 and it works for me.
HCK858
06-03-2005, 04:00 PM
Your log has been great and makes my Superdrol still sitting in my kitchen cupboard look rather attractive....
Check this out though, this is worrying.
#20 before & after blood work.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=476018
Are you going to get any blood work done?
After seeing this i'm contemplating.....
when i read that post im not so sure if it was legitimate... someone pointed out that his stats on the blood work were basically impossible to have such a huge turn around and that his blood work was showing that he basically had turned into a woman... as his blood work was posted it is believe by a few others on the board that he either made it up or didnt use pct but they still said since SD doesnt aromatize it shouldnt of affected him as much as it did... i dont know, im not too worried about it.
bigbrit
06-04-2005, 02:31 AM
Yeh i think if your going to bogus post you've got to make it believable, i've never seen blood done before nore had it done so didn't really know what to look for.
Have done some research now so i don't fall **** like that again.
But 3bls, i ask ya... I know some poeple don't respond as well but that's bollocks. I agree aswell there was no mention of any pct, if your going to do a product review the pct is all part of the cycle.
HCK858
06-04-2005, 09:31 AM
i mean, if you are bulking correctly, he should be able to put on a few pounds on his own anyways which means the superdrol basically did nothing for him according to his results? I dont know, he obviously wasnt doing somthing right. i have all the basics down and am gettin great results so im happy.
OaksDaMan
06-05-2005, 10:42 AM
I was wondering... when you increased your SD to 20mg if you take it at the same time or space out the 10 mg during the day. I would think that 20mg at once would be more effective but since you are getting great results I thought I would ask. Keep up the good work.
HCK858
06-05-2005, 03:49 PM
I was wondering... when you increased your SD to 20mg if you take it at the same time or space out the 10 mg during the day. I would think that 20mg at once would be more effective but since you are getting great results I thought I would ask. Keep up the good work.
I take them both at once, I actually dont know what the half life on SD is but when i was researching i read somthing that said take it all at once.
HCK858
06-05-2005, 03:59 PM
2 more days to report, and 2 day to go until i start pct...days 20 and 21, day 20 was back... awesome workout, for some reason the pumps on my lats were more instense then the previous 2 work outs, i had a bit of a small shirt on and it actually made lifting uncomfortable because it got so tight, anyways strength remained about the same as it was last week but the pump were awesome all around, durring dead lifts the lower back pumps got pretty intense but its nothing you cant handle. another thing i noticed is that my ab's will cramp up with a painful pump alot now, whether im lifting or getting of the toilet, whatever im doing, if i do it too quick my abs will cramp up, its not a terrible pain at all and is nothing to worry about but i thought i would just share that for anyone else who is wondering. i have noticed alot better definition in my traps since starting SD, i do traps with shoulders not back, but when im doing things like cable rows its tends to hit my traps a little and when i got home from the gym i was checkin out my back in the mirror and my upper mid back, which used to be my weak point, is looking great. day 21 was abs, basically the same as all the other days, very intense pumps and the leg raises were a little easier once again. another thing i noticed today was that my ACNE has gotten much BETTER since starting SD, ive had a little that just wouldnt clear up but the SD has dried out my skin and its looking better then it has in months. (wow this pill does everything ahahha) anyway, i hopped on the scale right after i dropped a pretty mosterous duece only to find that i went up another half pound. last 2 days on cycle are going to be shoulers/traps and arms, these will be the only muscle groups that got hit 4 times, all the others were 3... after my last post i will try and go back and add up all the weight i gained and strength and also add some pictures. im planning on keeping strength and weight logged on here as well for all of pct.
Splant
06-06-2005, 03:02 AM
JUST GOT MINE TODAY w00t!!! Ill be putting up a log later on this afternoon after I sleep and go to class and workout. Awsome log man. Im curious to see how your PCT goes. Ill probably follow your plan closely, even though I am trying to cut some....Any suggestions?
Sean
HCK858
06-06-2005, 11:47 AM
JUST GOT MINE TODAY w00t!!! Ill be putting up a log later on this afternoon after I sleep and go to class and workout. Awsome log man. Im curious to see how your PCT goes. Ill probably follow your plan closely, even though I am trying to cut some....Any suggestions?
Sean
Not quite sure on what you mean... are you going to be cutting while on cycle? please specify. If you are talking about cutting durring PCT i wouldnt do it.. right after working hard to make all these gains i think you need to make sure you maintain them for a few weeks first, if you go straight to cutting post cycles you're likely to lose all of you hard work and that would be very discouraging. I have read that SD can be used while cutting, and there is no doubt in my mind that it would be benificial, the stuff gets you pretty shredded, i was impressed and didnt expect what i got out of it. It's general purpose is to help pack on the pounds when bulking which is what i would suggest to someone but if i had the option of cutting with or without it, i would definately go with it.
Splant
06-06-2005, 12:50 PM
Not quite sure on what you mean... are you going to be cutting while on cycle? please specify. If you are talking about cutting durring PCT i wouldnt do it.. right after working hard to make all these gains i think you need to make sure you maintain them for a few weeks first, if you go straight to cutting post cycles you're likely to lose all of you hard work and that would be very discouraging. I have read that SD can be used while cutting, and there is no doubt in my mind that it would be benificial, the stuff gets you pretty shredded, i was impressed and didnt expect what i got out of it. It's general purpose is to help pack on the pounds when bulking which is what i would suggest to someone but if i had the option of cutting with or without it, i would definately go with it.
Yea I wanted to use it while cutting, since im trying to get rid of this little pudge in the middle. Just wanted your opinion on this, just dont want to waste it. Ill probably just do 10 mg for 3-4 weeks.
Sean
Great Log.
Im have used sd in two weeks and im up 10 pounds, i have been cutting before sd so the most of the gain is extra carbs in my system i guess.
Im taking 10mg and I am planning to do four weeks and then do rebound xt, hoping it will take some gyno away also... wich bothers me. This is some pre pubertal gyno i have always had, not from the sd.
SD is really impressing me, my pumps in the gym is insane and i feel very hard and swole... love the feeling. Strenght is also very good.
I will not exeed 10mg because it`s working very well as it is.
as for sides i have noticed one thing, my joints ached the last time I was working out, I have increased the fat in my diet hopefully to help the side.
modified7
06-06-2005, 04:02 PM
Your log has been great and makes my Superdrol still sitting in my kitchen cupboard look rather attractive....
Check this out though, this is worrying.
#20 before & after blood work.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=476018
Are you going to get any blood work done?
After seeing this i'm contemplating.....
man that guy is in every SD thread talking mess about it. i questioned him about it once and he claimed he wasnt knocking it . what else do you call it when you go into every thread about it and claim "im not buying the hype i only gained 3lbs" lol
on the other hand im loving the stuff ive gained 12lbs so far and today was the start of my 3rd and final week and ive only taken 10mg a day. the only thing side related i could report is being tired more then usuall which ive heard some other people are reporting as well.other then that i fell great and am putting on some nice size finally! im anxious to see how pct goes and if i can keep most of the gains
HCK858
06-06-2005, 04:26 PM
Yea I wanted to use it while cutting, since im trying to get rid of this little pudge in the middle. Just wanted your opinion on this, just dont want to waste it. Ill probably just do 10 mg for 3-4 weeks.
Sean
personally i would use it for bulking, just because its so beneficial in that aspect... i mean if i had money to burn i would use it for cutting, but i dont, so i wont. however, you might want to use the SD to bulk up a little more, and watch for designer supps new product. They are coming out with a product called melting point which is supposed to burn fat, but not have a huge affect on your muscles. i know when i used the EC stack i got cut up but i felt like i lost a lot of muscle, this new product sounds very promising, and if they did such a good job on superdrol im willing to spend a little extra cash to try that when im ready to cut. there is a whole article about it on the website... I dont know -- if you're tryin to get cut up right before summer and you really wanna use it, i would say it would be beneficial, it obviously wouldnt reach its max potential but thats your call.
and to the other guys -- thanks for the feed back id like to hear back about your finishing stats, weight, strength increases, so hopefully you guys can post up here durring pct so i can compare how well i hold my gains to you guys.
nick912
06-06-2005, 10:04 PM
bro exactly why are you not taking RXT alone for PCT anymore? I see nothing wrong with this neither does DS..
HCK858
06-07-2005, 01:01 AM
bro exactly why are you not taking RXT alone for PCT anymore? I see nothing wrong with this neither does DS..
Me? I still am planning on taking RXT alone, when did i say differently?
Ippeas2003
06-07-2005, 09:22 AM
what about PCT after finish Drol? I mean will u need a classic PCT cosisting on Clomid and/or Nolva?
nick912
06-07-2005, 12:21 PM
Me? I still am planning on taking RXT alone, when did i say differently?
I thouht u were going to bring some Nolva in with it, or do away with RXT all together..sorry bro, WTG though!
Help! This was my second workout in a row which I have aching joints, especially in my shoulders. It hurts like hell, anybody have input on what to do. I am taking in a lot of fish oil and water.
By the way insane pump in my tris today at workout, man this is really making me swole.
vegHead
06-07-2005, 03:47 PM
Yea I wanted to use it while cutting, since im trying to get rid of this little pudge in the middle. Just wanted your opinion on this, just dont want to waste it. Ill probably just do 10 mg for 3-4 weeks.
Sean
woh your username is almost the same as mine. Crazy
ANyway great progress so far hck. I plan pn taking sd in a few months and this log has really helped me. Im planning on 10 mg but I may bump it up to 20 and because of this log ill take the 2 together. anyway thanks man
HCK858
06-07-2005, 03:58 PM
Help! This was my second workout in a row which I have aching joints, especially in my shoulders. It hurts like hell, anybody have input on what to do. I am taking in a lot of fish oil and water.
By the way insane pump in my tris today at workout, man this is really making me swole.
not sure what to tell you bro? I havnt had any joint pains at all? can anyone else help him with this...
vegHead
06-07-2005, 04:00 PM
Help! This was my second workout in a row which I have aching joints, especially in my shoulders. It hurts like hell, anybody have input on what to do. I am taking in a lot of fish oil and water.
By the way insane pump in my tris today at workout, man this is really making me swole.
dude only recomendation i can think of is to warm up properly before every workout. ive learnted that can really minimize the pain.
HCK858
06-07-2005, 04:02 PM
what about PCT after finish Drol? I mean will u need a classic PCT cosisting on Clomid and/or Nolva?
No, if you search, you're bound to see it debated between whether you need it or not. Rxt and SD were made to go hand in hand, ive talked to sldge and he is confident that rxt is all that is needed, many people have used this product, and i havnt seen anyone who said rxt wasnt sufficient (at least anyone posting legitimate stuff) I was shown a few studies that stated in theory Rxt should not only work, but work better than nolva would. ill keep you guys posted on this though, im off to go lift right now and when i get home ill post my final 2 workouts from yesterday and today.
bigbrit
06-08-2005, 01:20 AM
This is interesting i'm going to research the benefits of cutting on SD, i'm an M1T man myself so might save the SD until cutting next Jan.
Has anyone come across any threads where this has been done?
I'll check out AM...
PCT- Yeh Rxt is made epsecially for SD, but if you run a higher dose of SD than is suggested i wouldn't feel confident not running at least some Nolva. The debate goes on!!
modified7
06-08-2005, 05:55 AM
looks like my gains are coming to a halt. im still at the same weight today as i was on sunday. oh well if i dont gain anything in the 3rd week thats 12lbs in 2 weeks just hope i can keep at least 10 of it
Bodybuildjoe
06-08-2005, 08:00 AM
Hey mod, if you dont gain anymore the last week I wouldnt be to disapointed. 12 pounds is awsome and that is really hard to do, it is almost like the gains you would see on the juice. Just curious what your before and after stats were if you have any?
HCK858
06-08-2005, 09:22 AM
days 22 and 23 -- my last days -- i ran the SD a few days over just so i could get in another shoulder workout and another arms workout. On shoulders traps day i had an awesome workout, lateral raises went up 2.5 pounds with good form and my overhead dumbell presses were up 5 pounds as well. I had great stamina through out the workout and awesome pumps as usual. I hit traps pretty hard afterword too, increasing my weight by 10 pounds (i probably could of gone up 5 last week so we'll call it 5) anyways great pumps on the traps as wll and just an awesome workout overall. Day 23 -- I was disappointed that my spotter bailed on me, this means i would have to cut skulls out of my routine because i always go to the point where i drop the bar on my face, i did however do soem close grip bench on a smith machine and that was intense, i got in 5 sets (2 warm up) but on my three regular sets i blasted away.. its hard to tell your weight increases on machine that balace the weight for you though so i dont really keep track of it on here. anyways i did some single arm dumbell overhead extensions in place of skulls and those felt pretty good. i havnt done it in a while but i started with 35's and good form and those seem sufficient enough. after this i did some good straight bar push downs and by the time i got to dips my arms were shaking so i just did 1 set and moved on to bi's. bi's went surprisingly well, i had to use alot of body english but i still got in some good negatives on my heavy sets. Overall it was a great workout. and My final thoughts for the on cycle portion of this cycle are that my muscles are bigger, denser, and just have better overall shape. My stamina increased by great amounts, and my strength was awesome as well. I got stomach "cramps" if you will every once in a while although they arent really cramps its just if you move too fast you feel a pinch in the muscle, anyways thats really the only side besides dry skin that i have to report and its nothing to worry about. i drank alot of water, and calorie intake was around 2800-3200 a day. my final gains were around 9-10 pounds although i think i lost some bf%, this i will have to get tested, but all my friends say that not only to i look bigger but i look leaner and more cut up... so basically superdrol did everything and more that i would hope for from a product that doesnt have many negative effects and is in a decent price range. i will try and get blood work done ASAP. (finals are over in 2 days) and i will keep strength/weight updates coming durring PCT which i will run for 4 weeks. if anyone has any other questions/comments feel free to post.
MuscleCyko
06-08-2005, 09:27 AM
what did your cycle look like. 10mg a week for 4 weeks? did you bump to 20 or 30 mg? in weeks 3 or 4.
I am very excited about your gains, and looking forward to starting my cycle soon as pay day, and the delivery man visit me...
HCK858
06-08-2005, 09:38 AM
10 mg first week 20 mg weeks 2-3 and a few days
creed428
06-08-2005, 11:36 AM
great log HCK couple questions i got
1. everyone says superdrol decreases libido you didn't experience anything like this?
2. did your results start to decrease as you got further into your cycle?
3. last question could you have increased up to 30mg a day in week 3 or were results coming just fine from 20mg for you?
Bodybuildjoe
06-08-2005, 12:03 PM
This was a great log HCK. I read it everyday and it made my mind up on taking superdrol. I am hoping to try it starting next week but I need to see what the doctor says on friday to determine if I can start lifting on monday.
So I am hoping to start a log of my own when I start superdrol. I think by doing a log it helps keep that person motivated and strict with there workout and diet routine.Anyways great job.
HCK858
06-08-2005, 12:23 PM
i just took some pictures last night, they are decent, but kind of ****ty cuz i had no one to take them for me, i will post them if someone tells me how
HCK858
06-08-2005, 12:32 PM
great log HCK couple questions i got
1. everyone says superdrol decreases libido you didn't experience anything like this?
2. did your results start to decrease as you got further into your cycle?
3. last question could you have increased up to 30mg a day in week 3 or were results coming just fine from 20mg for you?
1. Im up at school and up until a month ago i was single so i was doin whatever i wanted, but recently i ended up with a girlfriend back home since im movin back permanently so i havnt really been put in a spot to have sex, although i will be home in about a day and a half and we'll see, but i mean i still get horny and stuff, so i wouldnt say there was a major decrease if there was any at all. Also I am only 20, which i know many people think is unacceptable for SD but oh well, and i dont think it would have an effect on my libido as it would on someone who is maybe 30+ years old? but thats just speculation im not sure.
2. Strength kept increases as did weight, i would like to say there was a 4 day span however where it seemed like i just exploded, but it wasnt a dramatic drop off. I feel like im still making gains and contemplated staying on it for another week, but i figure this is good enough, so now i just want to focus on maintaing any gains i made.
3. I could of upped the dose to 30 mg IMO. I was told the way you could measure whether or not your dose is too high is if you get lower back pumps that hurt so much that you cant really lift effectivly, and i never even got "slightly painful" lower back pumps so im sure i could of gone up or at least rotated 20/30/20/30 every other day, but my gains were good enough where i didnt feel like pushing it, im sure next cycle id be up for trying 30 mg's if i felt like i needed it.
modified7
06-08-2005, 03:36 PM
say HC did you notice any pain in your knees?
i just started feeling it the last few days i can barely walk up and down stairs.
just to add to your log my pump was extreme on 20mg i felt like my arms were going to explode yesterday after working chest/tri's
HCK858
06-08-2005, 03:56 PM
say HC did you notice any pain in your knees?
i just started feeling it the last few days i can barely walk up and down stairs.
just to add to your log my pump was extreme on 20mg i felt like my arms were going to explode yesterday after working chest/tri's
Nope, i never had joint pains, my knees are fine and i beat them up pretty good, i havnt been running, if i do any cardio at all i just ride a bike, but i used to run alot and on legs day i go as heavy as possible with no problems... yeah i know what you mean about the arm pumps -- feels great when they are like that, at least for me it did. I just stretch them between each set and then blast away.
HCK858
06-08-2005, 10:55 PM
these are all current pics from last night, ill post the only more recent one i have which was before bulking started a while back in the next thread.
HCK858
06-08-2005, 10:58 PM
this was before bulking started and before i shaved my head
HCK858
06-08-2005, 11:01 PM
i know the back is a little weak but im pretty strong on all my exercises compared to my buddies, i think i either dont know how to flex right or i just need to cut some more fat after pct, but tell me what you think
MuscleCyko
06-08-2005, 11:22 PM
do another bulking cycle, i know its summer time and all, but i would do another bulk cycle or two if you did this well. Stop after two though!
give rests peroids between every bulk of at least 6 weeks.
Splant
06-08-2005, 11:35 PM
Damn that is an awsome difference.....Good job dude
Sean
nick912
06-08-2005, 11:50 PM
looking large bro!
HCK858
06-09-2005, 07:38 AM
i dont know, ive got nothing to compare it too, the friends i lift with are either skinny and just go for the "ripped" look or they are on AAS, so its hard for me to judge whats good for the average 20 yr old.
Bodybuildjoe
06-09-2005, 08:06 AM
Those are some pretty big changes from before and after. You can definatly see a difference in those pictures. From the pictures I would say that SD really works. I agree with MuscleCyko about doing another cycle since this worked so well for ya. But ya make sure to take at least a six week break like he said too. Anyways great job
hybrid40
06-09-2005, 11:45 AM
hey, i guess im kinda new at this i mean i have been lifting since i was in eighth grade so its been about five or six years but im just now really starting to look into supplements other than protien and creatien. i work at G.N.C. and i had a customer tell me about this sight and this product called superdrol and i wondered how in compared to phosphgens on cycle. also i would like to know what anyone thinks about ce2 and no2 combinations with on cycle or superdrol.
creed428
06-09-2005, 12:06 PM
hey HCK which part of SD are you from? I am originally from SD and think i might know you or atleast someone that looks alot like you
plinx0r
06-09-2005, 12:06 PM
hey, i guess im kinda new at this i mean i have been lifting since i was in eighth grade so its been about five or six years but im just now really starting to look into supplements other than protien and creatien. i work at G.N.C. and i had a customer tell me about this sight and this product called superdrol and i wondered how in compared to phosphgens on cycle. also i would like to know what anyone thinks about ce2 and no2 combinations with on cycle or superdrol.
The general consenus is going to be you are too young to take superdrol. Considering that superdrol is a steriod, the unwritten rule is that it should not be touched until the age of 21.
It's good to see you are at least wanting to know more about it, as opposed to purchasing it and then asking questions. Read this, http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=485433 . It's got plenty of information on the subject.
HCK858
06-09-2005, 01:53 PM
hey HCK which part of SD are you from? I am originally from SD and think i might know you or atleast someone that looks alot like you
Poway
creed428
06-09-2005, 02:23 PM
Poway
sent you a PM hit me up if you are who i think you are and remember me
MuscleCyko
06-09-2005, 10:05 PM
Those are some pretty big changes from before and after. You can definatly see a difference in those pictures. From the pictures I would say that SD really works. I agree with MuscleCyko about doing another cycle since this worked so well for ya. But ya make sure to take at least a six week break like he said too. Anyways great job
Superdrol may get banned soon, that is why i suggest, doing another before time runs out. I dont' want to take away from your tremendous gains though. Very impressive, great great job.
you responded well to SD, so doing it again is a good idea, since you know it works for your body.
What are you taking for PCT. Nolva i hope.
HCK858
06-10-2005, 02:40 AM
Superdrol may get banned soon, that is why i suggest, doing another before time runs out. I dont' want to take away from your tremendous gains though. Very impressive, great great job.
you responded well to SD, so doing it again is a good idea, since you know it works for your body.
What are you taking for PCT. Nolva i hope.
Rebound XT, its a common misconception on these boards that RXT is some kind of joke when it come to superdrol, but after alot of research, and ive seen people prove it scientifically, rebound is better with SD than nolva is. If superdrol were to get banned anytime soon i would definately stock up though because youre right, i think i respond well to it.
magnumfreak
06-10-2005, 05:32 AM
Great log HCK!
As to the people questioning sex drive, at 39 and about 1.5 weeks complete on SD no issues. I started at 20 mg due to my size.
Hope to see you keep your gains HCK. Keep us updated.
IntensePump
06-10-2005, 08:27 AM
Do you use lifting straps for any of your workouts?
HCK858
06-10-2005, 10:12 AM
No i dont use straps... BTW --did legs yesterday and my strength went up on all exercises, i had great pumps, im doin chest in about 30 minutes -- ill post later.
IntensePump
06-10-2005, 01:19 PM
What kind of grip do you use on stiff legged and regular deadlifts?
BTW, excellent log!
MuscleCyko
06-11-2005, 04:34 AM
Rebound XT, its a common misconception on these boards that RXT is some kind of joke when it come to superdrol, but after alot of research, and ive seen people prove it scientifically, rebound is better with SD than nolva is. If superdrol were to get banned anytime soon i would definately stock up though because youre right, i think i respond well to it.
I plan to use rebound XT to help with my test levels afterwards, but think NOLVA is standard when using things like superdrol. I will be using nolva for estrogen at 10mg a day during my cycle, and 40/30/30/20 afterwards to make sure i don't get estrogen related sides.
I think rebound just helps raise test levels, not necessary does it block estrogen. I would get NOLVA if i were you, ww w ************************ co m
samv12
06-11-2005, 12:12 PM
I plan to use rebound XT to help with my test levels afterwards, but think NOLVA is standard when using things like superdrol. I will be using nolva for estrogen at 10mg a day during my cycle, and 40/30/30/20 afterwards to make sure i don't get estrogen related sides.
I think rebound just helps raise test levels, not necessary does it block estrogen. I would get NOLVA if i were you, ww w ************************ co m
if u don't mind why the nolva on cycle, superdrol doesn't aromatize, and it hasn't been known to create estrogen problems
HCK858
06-12-2005, 04:00 AM
I plan to use rebound XT to help with my test levels afterwards, but think NOLVA is standard when using things like superdrol. I will be using nolva for estrogen at 10mg a day during my cycle, and 40/30/30/20 afterwards to make sure i don't get estrogen related sides.
I think rebound just helps raise test levels, not necessary does it block estrogen. I would get NOLVA if i were you, ww w ************************ co m
rebound has been known to improve gyno in some cases on people, it actually fights it instead of just blocking it. read up im sure you'll see what i mean. Nolva is not needed for SD cycles.
modified7
06-13-2005, 11:57 AM
So HCK hows the PCT coming?
My last dose of SD was yesterday and from the weighing this morning the total weight from the 3 weeks is 16lbs :thumb:
Started my pct today hopefully i can keep the lbs on! im only 7 lbs from my goal weight !@
MuscleCyko
06-13-2005, 05:28 PM
Every product similar to superdrol claims no estrogen conversion. I use 10mg of nolva during my cycle to control estrogen levels, because i don't believe the claim of absolute zero estrogen converson. I feel its more of a sales pitch, because NO ONE would buy it if the claim was "A little estrogen conversion"
samv12
06-13-2005, 05:55 PM
Every product similar to superdrol claims no estrogen conversion. I use 10mg of nolva during my cycle to control estrogen levels, because i don't believe the claim of absolute zero estrogen converson. I feel its more of a sales pitch, because NO ONE would buy it if the claim was "A little estrogen conversion"
i don't think there's such thing as zero estrogen conversion, but i think sd has anti-estrogenic properties and sd by itself would not cause gyno, because it doesn't aromatize, and even if there was estrogen conversion it would be very small and would not cause estrogenic side effects. however, if u already have gyno its a different story as sd flares up pre-existing gyno due to i think elevated progesterone (just a thaught). anyways, i like the "better safe than sorry" philosophy and do whatever makes u comfortable. good luck with ur cycle and enjoy it.
HCK858
06-14-2005, 07:27 PM
sorry i havnt posted in a while, i just moved home and ive been pretty busy... the diet has pretty much stayed on track, every now and then i will miss a meal, but after 6 days of pct my weight has not changed and my strength continued to increase and i think its finally starting to taper off. anyways, nothing bad to report at all. if anyone has specific questions id be more than happy to answer them
plinx0r
06-21-2005, 10:50 AM
Any updates? I'd been following your log pretty closely.
HCK858
06-22-2005, 06:19 PM
yeah sorry i havnt been staying active on this long, i figured everyone lost interest after they saw the before and after pictures. anyways i maintained all of the weight and im just started my third week of rebound xt... absolutely no problems.. and i dont know if its too late now but i am getting a ton of blood work done tommorow, one of my doctors wants to have my thyroids and liver checked along with some other things like a blood count and STD check so ill post those just incase anyone is interested... i guess if they come back normal it means my lipids werent messed up for too long, if they were at all.
plinx0r
06-22-2005, 07:05 PM
yeah sorry i havnt been staying active on this long, i figured everyone lost interest after they saw the before and after pictures. anyways i maintained all of the weight and im just started my third week of rebound xt... absolutely no problems.. and i dont know if its too late now but i am getting a ton of blood work done tommorow, one of my doctors wants to have my thyroids and liver checked along with some other things like a blood count and STD check so ill post those just incase anyone is interested... i guess if they come back normal it means my lipids werent messed up for too long, if they were at all.
yeah, I'm anxious to see if RXT alone works well as a PCT.
kingmob
06-28-2005, 07:48 AM
Wow. An awesome Log HC.
And those gains that you had were pretty incredible considering that you had them in 3 weeks time. Makes we want to try this product
A few questions for you guys. I have taken a year off bodybuilding, and just now starting to get back into it. Currently I'm trying to shed all the excess fat that I've gained due to inactivity and just get my body into a workout shape again, as my muscles have lost a lot of strength. I weigh in around 210lbs, and want to get back to 200-202lbs for the summer(I'm 6'1 BTW). I was probably a bit bigger than HC before his cycle(Naturally). Do you guys think it would be ok to go on the Bulking Cycle with Superdrol let's say closer to September once I gain my strength back? Is it safe to do it after such a layoff in such a short time?
Thanks in advance.
Kublai_The_3rd
07-14-2005, 06:24 PM
HCK..good job..read your log you look swole bro.
btw, waht do you think of a 6week cycle?
Crash49
07-17-2005, 01:35 PM
Its been a couple of days. I'm anxious to see his results.
HCK858
07-17-2005, 08:57 PM
whats up guys.. unfortunately PCT was all jacked up due to the bad batch of RXT but i havnt experienced any appearance or strength let downs. ive maintained my weight and my strength is still the same... im waiting for the new shipment of RXT to come in and then ill be starting another cycle of SD, this time with a first time user (my buddy) so hopefully ill get some good before and after pics of both of us.
HCK858
07-29-2005, 01:07 PM
just started my second cycle a week ago, ill let you guys know how it goes, im too busy/lazy to do a log, but ill get some before and after pictures as well as stats.
djplatano
08-18-2005, 08:32 AM
hey, what happened with the blood work?
Max4444
08-18-2005, 08:53 AM
into 3rd week or superdrol...interesting results
up 7lbs already (220lbs)...have not seen very big increase in strength but
over all body size has went up. Also using CEE (cellmass creatine) with aminos
2222 liquid.
dose:
monday 20mg
tuesday 30 mg
wednesday 20mg
thurs 30 mg
friday 20mg
sat 20 mg
sun 20
seems to work weel this way...also i found out superdrol works better for me if i take 10 to 20 mg right before bed.
anyone have same results?