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zackmurphy
05-11-2005, 10:04 PM
Zack's Controlled Labs Journal.

Got this free stuff from Controlled Labs (thanks, boys), so I'll take the pills and see what happens. Or what doesn't happen. I have no vested interest in a specific result - just an epidemiological study of what two products do to one guy.

I'm the first the admit that what "works" on one person is VERY open to interpretation, and some intelligent skepticism of successes and failures is required.

My stats:
I'm about 6', 176# today, but cutting some bodyfat and I'll be at 170 and about 9% soon.

I'm 33.8, been a competitive distance runner through age 30ish, lifting a little until then, but not eating all that well for gains. Then more serious since 8/2003. Lifting 3-5x/week since then.

Haven't ever really gone for size. My programs are always hybrid size-strength. Or just strength.

And I'm a personal trainer.

Current Program:
Westside-based strength program. I'm training, more or less, for a competition, probably in September. My goal is to be a competitor in the deadlift. And to deadlift 500 before I turn 35, which is a little over a year out.

Current 1RMs:
I'd put these in, but I'll be doing maxes in about a week, so I'll load them up then. Stay tuned.

My nutrition:
... is pretty tight. 2200-2800 kcals/day (I vary it), at about a 35/45/20 to 35/50/15 mac-nut ratio. I am trying to be hypocaloric 3 days out of 5.

Supps:
Multi-vit
Fish oil
Glucosamine
Glutamine
Saw Palmetto
Milk Thistle

I am OFF creatine, and take nothing that would ruin the test pattern of the 2 Controlled Labs supps. Obviously most of us (testers) are stacking supps, but I'm trying to avoid taking anything that would obviously defeat the purpose of testing something. Hence, no crea, no PHs, etc.

What I'll be taking:
White Blood, a "Blood Transport Enhancer" (NO)
Blue Rhino, a "Natural Test Booster" (tribulus terrestis)

Both are to be taken pre-exercise. Can do.

Enough for now. I'll start shortly.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-12-2005, 03:18 AM
looks good bro, thanks for starting up the log. :)
zackmurphy
05-12-2005, 07:01 AM
looks good bro, thanks for starting up the log. :)
No sweat. Sorry it took so long, but I wanted to be completely off creatine and nolvadex before I started.

I'll be rolling shortly.
zackmurphy
05-12-2005, 11:14 PM
Today was day 1, dose 1. Took both about 45 minutes before my first rep.

Weighed 175.5 this morning. Not trying to gain or lose, just a strength program. Ideally, I'll drop some bodyfat (not much) and add a bit of LBM, but not looking for massive hypertrophy.

Worked out, good workout. Detail in my workout log.

I'll have more to say after a few more doses.
zackmurphy
05-14-2005, 03:14 PM
Dose #2 with 2nd workout since starting. Felt good. Speed squat day, so worked up a pretty good sweat.

Note to the Controlled Labs guys: The "Blue Rhino" bottle - you have blue pills in a clear bottle with a blue label and "Blue Rhino" in blue print. The product name is almost completely camouflaged. FYI.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-15-2005, 08:56 AM
Dose #2 with 2nd workout since starting. Felt good. Speed squat day, so worked up a pretty good sweat.

Note to the Controlled Labs guys: The "Blue Rhino" bottle - you have blue pills in a clear bottle with a blue label and "Blue Rhino" in blue print. The product name is almost completely camouflaged. FYI.

yes, we noticed too, it looked different when it went to print, we will try to get plates changed to outline it in white on a future run so that it can be seen better.

thanks,

Tank
zackmurphy
05-18-2005, 07:47 PM
Dose #4 today. Did new maxes for the end of my 9-week Westside regimen.

Weight was 174.0 this morning.

New squat max: 300
New dead max: 375
New bench max: tomorrow
zackmurphy
05-23-2005, 03:50 PM
Dose #5 or 6.

Haven't been posting much since I had nothing really to report. I take the pills, and I'm still alive and kicking, so no news really.

I only take them pre-workout (as prescribed), and it's not like the formula is intended to double my squat or add 100# to my bench, so I won't always have anything to say about it.

Today's workout was good. Set a PR for Good Mornings with a 1RM of 305. Was it the magic pills? Who can say.
pu12en12g
10-03-2005, 07:39 AM
Updates ? Final Thoughts ? Final review ?
ScrillaKeith
10-03-2005, 09:08 AM
pu12eng12, after browsing through the forums, I noticed you've been pulling up all these old threads to check up. Shows your company has some integrity which is rare in this industry. I just started on GB/WB. Glad to support a company that stays involved.
zackmurphy
10-03-2005, 11:14 AM
Updates ? Final Thoughts ? Final review ?
I stopped posting since nobody really seemed to be following along - not many views, and there was really nothing to report, anyway. It's not like a PH or something, in which the results are extremely notable. Here, the "results" are really nebulous. Anyway, I finished off both, and really didn't note any changes or marked improvement on anything.

But also, I was pretty disenchanted by one thing: the bottles said to dose only pre-workout, 30 & 45 minutes, if I recall. SO I did exactly that, just like on the bottle.

But then a CONTROLLED LABS post on some other guy's WB/BR log said to take them on "off" days, too. So was pretty irritated that there was such a lack of clarity. If I can find that post, I'll link it.

But I decided rather than post about it, I'd just let the whole thing drop.
pu12en12g
10-03-2005, 11:40 AM
I stopped posting since nobody really seemed to be following along - not many views, and there was really nothing to report, anyway. It's not like a PH or something, in which the results are extremely notable. Here, the "results" are really nebulous. Anyway, I finished off both, and really didn't note any changes or marked improvement on anything.

But also, I was pretty disenchanted by one thing: the bottles said to dose only pre-workout, 30 & 45 minutes, if I recall. SO I did exactly that, just like on the bottle.

But then a CONTROLLED LABS post on some other guy's WB/BR log said to take them on "off" days, too. So was pretty irritated that there was such a lack of clarity. If I can find that post, I'll link it.

But I decided rather than post about it, I'd just let the whole thing drop.

Sorry to hear about the confusion man... there were also several misprints in the BB.COM cyperstore that we've addressed. I'm going to see if we can do something to make this right for you.


pu12eng12, after browsing through the forums, I noticed you've been pulling up all these old threads to check up. Shows your company has some integrity which is rare in this industry. I just started on GB/WB. Glad to support a company that stays involved.

Hey thanks man !.. I don't own the company but as a consultant for them, customer feedback is very important to me.
zackmurphy
11-17-2005, 04:09 PM
I'm going to see if we can do something to make this right for you.
Thanks.

Well, I'd still be interested in the White Blood, if you guys have a spare bottle or two laying around. :)