JOEDs Rebound XT log

[BuffaJoe]

Ive decided to start one too. albeit I am already 5 days in-

I will try to be as acurate as possible with my observations. Ive read everthing on these pages about rebound Xt and its observed results. IMO i think alot of it may be wishfull thinking (regarding gyno)

... Also, I think alot of guys are mis-diagnosing themselves with "gyno"- I however, do have slight breast tissue devolopment behind both nipples- about the size of a marble. Its pubertal, and Ive had it all throughout my teens.

If you are not sure if you have this condition check out this website- best information on the web, and lots of helpfull guys

www.gynecomastia.org

that being said ill give you a little backround

19YO- 172 Lbs ~13%BF
training seriously for 9 months
still bulking

using rebound to try and reduce gyno/ improve strength

other supps being used:
multi
Whey
Cre-ethyl thunder

[BuffaJoe]

Dosing schedule:
Week1: 75mg (3 caps) 1 morning, 1 midday, 1 bedtime
week 2 & 3: 50mg (2 caps) 1 morning, 1 bedtime
week 4: 25 mg (1 cap) 1 bedtime

I will be using fish oil along with Rebound when practical- 10gs of fat is all thats necessary

DAY 1 & 2

Nothing to report at all


DAY 3
off day
Started to feel soreness in my knees- facial skin is feeling agitated;
nothing to report with gyno

Day 4:
Trained quads today- felt strong
knees are very sore- considering dropping does to 50mg for the rest of the week
nothing to report with gyno

[david4zero8]

Dosing schedule:
Week1: 75mg (3 caps) 1 morning, 1 midday, 1 bedtime
week 2 & 3: 50mg (2 caps) 1 morning, 1 bedtime
week 4: 25 mg (1 cap) 1 bedtime

I will be using fish oil along with Rebound when practical- 10gs of fat is all thats necessary

DAY 1 & 2

Nothing to report at all


DAY 3
off day
Started to feel soreness in my knees- facial skin is feeling agitated;
nothing to report with gyno

Day 4:
Trained quads today- felt strong
knees are very sore- considering dropping does to 50mg for the rest of the week
nothing to report with gyno
I'm on rebound right now too. Just as a heads up Sldgehmr, in a PM to me, recommended taking 1 pill in the am and 2 tablets before you go to bed (when dosing 75mg). You might want to skip the afternoon dose and add it to your pm dose.

For week 2 and 3, i would go ahead with skipping the am does and just take the 2 pills before bed.

[BuffaJoe]

I'm on rebound right now too. Just as a heads up Sldgehmr, in a PM to me, recommended taking 1 pill in the am and 2 tablets before you go to bed (when dosing 75mg). You might want to skip the afternoon dose and add it to your pm dose.

For week 2 and 3, i would go ahead with skipping the am does and just take the 2 pills before bed.

yea, I was thinking about that, And i will probably go ahead and do that, its more convieniant and should be more effective.

Im still considering dropping down to 50mgs- my knees are sore, but Ill make my final decision when I wake up tomorow

[SKYWALKER09]

Dosing schedule:
Week1: 75mg (3 caps) 1 morning, 1 midday, 1 bedtime
week 2 & 3: 50mg (2 caps) 1 morning, 1 bedtime
week 4: 25 mg (1 cap) 1 bedtime

I will be using fish oil along with Rebound when practical- 10gs of fat is all thats necessary

DAY 1 & 2

Nothing to report at all


DAY 3
off day
Started to feel soreness in my knees- facial skin is feeling agitated;
nothing to report with gyno

Day 4:
Trained quads today- felt strong
knees are very sore- considering dropping does to 50mg for the rest of the week
nothing to report with gyno

If your having bad joint soreness, it might be a good idea to drop the dosage down a little like you were thinking. I think its great your doing a log on this and letting everyone know how it works for you. I would not recommend using nolva while reveiwing this product, but if you have never tried it for gyno it might be something to look into along with some lipoderm with 6OXO powder mixed into it. Check out my log for more on this. A guy just suggested to me the other day his way of reducing gyno and it seems to make sense. Its on page five.

[Tha King]

ive been doing this **** for 4 days and i dont have sore joints neither do i see any improvement in my gyno...anyone know why?

[BuffaJoe]

Day 6:

have noticed some more than usual acne of my back and face. Had a great day in the gym, I really do feel that my strength is improving.

Unfortuanatly there nothing major to report with the gyno. My nipple are sore, probably more so to do with me squizing them to see if they have reduced in size at all.

also, I have not noticed any "tighness" in my chest or other bodypart others have reported. actually I feel thicker, like im retraining more water, this could be unrelated.

as far as my mood, I havent noticed more aggresion, but i do have a great focus while im in the gym.

Im still on 75mgs, the soreness in my kness has gone away. I should have mentionon I started a new program this week which could have accounted for the sorness in my knees. I will continue my origional dosing plan, with the exeption that I will be taking 50 mgs at night, dropping the midday 25mg dose.



DAY 7:

Set a personal best on stiff legg deads, was very aggresive in the gym, lifts were strong. My body (muscles) is sore, much more than normal.

this is my last day of 75mg dosing.

nothing major to report with the gyno. Im kinda dissapointed with this aspect of the supp. With all the reviews ive been reading it seams alot of folks noticed a reduction by now. I still have 3 weeks left, and im still optimistic but at the same time I know this is not a miricle.

I have not expirenced any tightness in the chest, but my nipples are itchy and irritated- this is probably due to all the squezing and eximining ive been doing.

Im starting to think this would be an excelent suppliment for cutting, as my strength is great right now.

[ozcoltsfan]

Good Luck man hope you have more luck than I did!

[BuffaJoe]

Good Luck man hope you have more luck than I did!

what happened to you? I read some of your log but stopped reading it. Did you have any negitive side effects?

DAY 8:

had a great day in the gym again, strength is great. Ive started the second week of Rebound, im down to 50mgs. my knees are holding up.
Acne hasnt really been an issue, ive had a few random zits pop up that im pretty sure is due to the rebound. Nothing too serious tho

Nothing to report with gyno at all...... :(

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 10:

Ive been doing well in the gym, but i have yet to see any improvment at all with my chest. the suppliment does "work" as in it does suppress estrogen, I can defanatly feel the effects of that. However, so far, it has not "worked" on reducing the tissue.

...which has me thinking, could they actually get worse after Im through with the dosing due to a rebound effect? wouldnt that be ironic? im trying not to think about it, or worry and actually im still a little optimistic ill see a little improvment, I have 2 1/2 weeks left.

[david4zero8]

...which has me thinking, could they actually get worse after Im through with the dosing due to a rebound effect? wouldnt that be ironic? im trying not to think about it, or worry and actually im still a little optimistic ill see a little improvment, I have 2 1/2 weeks left.
That's a really good question. Very ironic indeed. You know what though? When i stopped taking 6-OXO a while back, my nipples seemed to have increased in puffiness. But then again, i did not tapper it down like i will be doing with the rebound.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Is your libido increasing with the RXT?

[ozcoltsfan]

what happened to you? I read some of your log but stopped reading it. Did you have any negitive side effects?

Nothing really happened at all, libido went up slightly but no where near as much as 6-OXO ... I got sick after I stopped using it for about 4-5 days and thats it!

[BuffaJoe]

That's a really good question. Very ironic indeed. You know what though? When i stopped taking 6-OXO a while back, my nipples seemed to have increased in puffiness. But then again, i did not tapper it down like i will be doing with the rebound.

eww, I dont want to hear that!

-- From what I can infer, this is very rare to have a E rebound with 6 oxo nolva, rebound Xt etc. bad enough to cause gyno itself. Usually its pubertal, or AAS/ PH induced.

Im just freaking myslef out because now its on my mind trying to get rid of it. Normally, the gyno doesnt really bother me too much, its a pretty mild/ common case, the only one that really notices or cares is me!

[BuffaJoe]

Is your libido increasing with the RXT?

Yes, I havent mentioned it because it hasnt really been a HUGE increase. also im 19 years old, feeling like a horn ball 24/7 is second nature.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 11: trained my quads and My strength is through the roof. I set a PB on squats AND leg press today. Unbelieveable. acne is dying down, drying up a bit.

Also, Im finding it very hard to fall alseep at night even though im exhausted. But when I finally fall asleep Ive been having intense dreams. typically about girls(sex) and sports, go figure!

nothing to repost with gyno. I doubt i will see any improvment- but im very happy with the strength increrases. the scale at my gym has been broken for over 2 weeks, I wonder if ive gained any weight.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 13:

Another PB on stiff leggers- my strength is way up- weight is about the same, I hope some of this strength eventually ends up as mass gains.

Nothing at all on gyno.

Im really going to consider ditching my 3rd week at 50mg and go right down to 25mgs for a week and stop using it.feedback?

[Robboe]

Don't be so impatient. This is a good log.

Have you had trouble with your knees in the past?

[BuffaJoe]

Don't be so impatient. This is a good log.

Have you had trouble with your knees in the past?

Yes they have aways given me trouble- nothing major tho, usually just aching.

Im more woried about an E rebound than anything else, that is why i was considering tapering down early.

DAY 14:

OFF DAY
knees still achin' and Im more sore than normal- expecially lower back, its more tight than I can ever remember. No aggression, lazyness sleeplessness to report.

Also, my acne is starting to flare up, even had a roommate comment today- doesnt help when everyone already thinks im on steriods.- I guess you take the good with the bad sometimes.

Im pretty sure ill continue on with my origional dosing plan and go 50/25 the next 2 weeks, my strength improvments are really great and I want to see how far I can go.

BTW: omega sports cre-ethyl thuder is a pretty solid creatine- this combo is defanatly working well for me.

[Robboe]

Shame about the knees - a lot of users reporting gyno-reduction (some even erradication) are noticing it with higher dosing (3-4 caps a day). Four caps a day is extreme for most, but three seems to be on the money for most.

Always taper down RXT.

[BuffaJoe]

Shame about the knees - a lot of users reporting gyno-reduction (some even erradication) are noticing it with higher dosing (3-4 caps a day). Four caps a day is extreme for most, but three seems to be on the money for most.

Always taper down RXT.

I was at 3 for a week. Mabey I should have used 3 caps for 2 weeks?

[pu12en12g]

Have you already tried Nolva (for the gyno)... ? If not.. why not ?

[BuffaJoe]

Have you already tried Nolva (for the gyno)... ? If not.. why not ?

No I have not, mainly becuase it is not redially availible- And after this I most likley will not pursue gyno reduction thru hormone manipulation
-my case Is not teribly bad- I would even venture to say that even with this small tissue buildup my chest is still better than most guys.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 15:

Had my first "so-so" day in the gym in over 2 weeks. Acne has not died down as I thought it would- Instead of my usual small breakouts- I have a few larger (more painfull) Zits on my face back and chest. My knees ache at night, but its managable- and consistantly getting better.

Still nothing to report with gyno. I have not expirenced any of the "tightness" some other guys have reported.

Ive noticed ive been sleeping a little more latley- and im feeling generally more tired than usual, very hard to get out of bed. not sure if its related.

[david4zero8]

DAY 15:
Ive noticed ive been sleeping a little more latley- and im feeling generally more tired than usual, very hard to get out of bed. not sure if its related.

I'm sure it's somehow related to the product. I've been having the same "problem." When i sleep now it's a REAAAALLY deep sleep, making it very hard to get out of bed in the morning. It's actually harder to fall asleep at night also, which could be another reason why the sleep is so deep.

[KFox]

estrogen rebound is what makes us look like pillsbury doughboys in the middle..its not necessarily on the breast tissue at all..it makes everything look huggable/soft...like a baby in pampers..so thats a real problem after playing around with anti-estrogenic compounds like M1T and M4AD or methyl DHT...estro just shows up after your done with those things..and leaves you guessing why your so soft looking..gyno is one thing..unless your taking 750-1500 mgs of test a week...real gyno probably wont occur..people need to take nolvadex or arimidex after any cycle of prohormones/steroid precursors or steroids to avoid looking soft and pillowy around the midsection and legs mainly.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 16:
Another good day lifting. this supp is great for strength!
...but by the end of day, my knees just ache like hell. I must stress tho- my kness have always had tendency to do this, Im assuming the Rebound is exagerating this.

there is alot of talk about using a higher dose when trying to destroy gyno. I started at 3 caps, most are reporting reduction starting at 4 or even 5 caps. This could be a good reson for the lack of reduction.

Still, nothing to report with gyno- execpt my right nipple seems to have that throb late into the night. mabey this is a possitive sign.


estrogen rebound is what makes us look like pillsbury doughboys in the middle..its not necessarily on the breast tissue at all..it makes everything look huggable/soft...like a baby in pampers..so thats a real problem after playing around with anti-estrogenic compounds like M1T and M4AD or methyl DHT...estro just shows up after your done with those things..and leaves you guessing why your so soft looking..gyno is one thing..unless your taking 750-1500 mgs of test a week...real gyno probably wont occur..people need to take nolvadex or arimidex after any cycle of prohormones/steroid precursors or steroids to avoid looking soft and pillowy around the midsection and legs mainly.

hey fox, Im gald to posted this. I noticed this when I dropped from 75mg to 50mg. I was bloated up, and I just felt soft/fat. I didnt post this because I thought It was just me being anal, I never even thought to put to connection together.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 17:
OFF DAY

Nothing new to report.
Still optimistic....

[Robboe]

This is a really cool log BTW.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 19:
Quads: I set another PB on squats, This is really suprising to me. Weather the strength is placebo or not- I dont care. I LOVE THIS STUFF!

unfortunatly there has been no gyno reduction, but I never expected much.

as far as everything else goes. I have had a few big zits poping up all over. I thought this would have subsidded by now. however, I dont have good skin and I would assume if you dont have acne probs/bad skin prior to using Rebound XT- the acne wouldnt be too big of a deal.

my mood/ general feeling is good/ no aggression.
I have gained weight the past 2+ weeks, and I have really noticed some more mass on my shoulders/traps and legs.

hey robboe or sledge/

I want to start dieting soon, I planed on starting the week I come off rebound. is this a good plan, or would it be better to keep eating big for a few more weeks? I am unclear how an E rebound would affect a calorie deficiet body.

[Robboe]

Taper down your RXT and you'll be fine.

Go straight into a diet if you like.

[BuffaJoe]

Day 20:

decent day in the gym.

Im been feeling around alot- the tissure does seam a little less dense, but not smaller. I dont know what this could be. also- my nipples have not been 'hard' like some other guys have reported. and they hurt- probably due to me constantly squeezing and checking them. cant help it!

Also, Ive continusly felt bloated while on this supp. Which makes no sence to me. hopefully someone can chime in. I hate to sound like a woman, but i feel fat! (could just be my 9 month bulk!!!). Im trying to think about it, or let it bother me.

Still deciding weather to start cutting/ cardio for summer. I think Im going to start some cardio on my curent bulking diet (3500+ cals/day)- then start to slowly reduce my cals over the next 2 weeks. (to around 2500).

my buddy ordered some- he doesnt have gyno probs, and hes about my size. hes going to use it as a stand alone and alternatinve to ph's. Ill let you know if he has any sucsess/ and or side effects

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 21:
OFF DAY
last day on 50 mgs. nothing to report.
going to pay close attention to see if I have any E rebound effects from lowing the dose as FOX was talking about...

[BuffaJoe]

Ive discovered 2 broken caps in my RXT bottle!

damn, looks like im going to have to cut my cycle short....

BTW, im still sore as hell from saturdays workout..... i feel like a newb again!

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 22:
started my taper down to 25mg.

Had another good day. Hit my chest- havent had a good chest day in probably 2 months, felt really good. So again, my strength is great.

my acne is really flared up. I even put this acne mask paste on my face last night to dry it up a little. My skin is oilly like im an 8th grader again.

No reduction with gyno- the gland does feel 'diffrent' Im sure of this now. Its softer. Possibly the beggining of a reduction?? too bad my cycle is basically over. Im thinking about ordering another bottle and running a higher dose. But I will defanatly wait at least a couple months- im not crazy about playing around with my hormones.

either way this is a great suppliment for strength.

[ellipticer]

No reduction with gyno- the gland does feel 'diffrent' Im sure of this now. Its softer. Possibly the beggining of a reduction??

I'd plan your next cycle to be at least 5 or 6 weeks at full dose, then taper. Good luck!

[BuffaJoe]

I'd plan your next cycle to be at least 5 or 6 weeks at full dose, then taper. Good luck!


Have you had any luck with this method?
if so, what was your full dose?

[ellipticer]

Have you had any luck with this method?
if so, what was your full dose?

I started at 5/ED for 3 days then 4/ED as the full dose. I've had 40% reduction in one side and about 15% in the other (pubertal). My suggestion on length of the cycle is based on studies with Tamoxifen, Clomid, and other drugs in Pub Med-- they ran for at least 4 to 6 weeks. I think expecting results in just 1 or 2 weeks of full dose before tapering is expecting too much... like you said, you can feel some changes now, but unfortunately, you're about to end the cycle.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 24:

Hit my quads today. Wow, what an excelent workout.
Everything is pretty much the same. knees are back to 100%

Oddly, some days I think my chest looks better, somedays it looks the same- and some it even looks worse. So bottom line, there hasnt been a change big enough to notice- either way.

I have gained a couple pounds ( 2 or 3) on this cycle, very promising- expecially considering the strength gains, I have defanatly packed on some more mass- this week in particular (week 4) has been the best so far.

Also, I have been having some really abnormal dreams latley- really weird stuff, somthimes disturbing- who knows...

[Robboe]

Hmmm...strange you should say that. I too have been having very vivid and weird dreams.

[BuffaJoe]

Day 25:

OFF DAY. and god, i needed it. I took a mental break today, I saw a concert- had a few drinks, instead of cottage cheese and an apple....that sort of thing.

My crazy dreams are continuing, Most are of voilent or sexual nature (not at the same time- im not a rapist!! lol) but very vivid, I can remember them In great detail, and I usually wake up at the conclusion of one. But sleep in general has not been a problem at all.

still nothing with the gyno. I lived with this for almost 10 years, ive decided to enbrace my body- and just deal with it. This condition is the main reason I turned to weightlifting, and a healthier lifstyle- so it isnt all bad.
Anyways, I really feel like ive conqured it in a big way- I can remember times where I felt horible about my body- even ashamed. So in that regard, Ive made great strides through hard work and dedication- and I will continue to do so.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 26:

not to much has changed

Another good day, Strength is great.
However, Ive really been feeling like **** latley at night, I just feel sick to my stomach- and ive been sleeping alot latley, not alot of energy. Im probably just comming down with something....not to worry.

Im starting my diet in a few days, and getting excited for that.

[Mestupt]

DAY 26:

not to much has changed

Another good day, Strength is great.
However, Ive really been feeling like **** latley at night, I just feel sick to my stomach- and ive been sleeping alot latley, not alot of energy. Im probably just comming down with something....not to worry.

Im starting my diet in a few days, and getting excited for that.
i dont know if your coming down with something as what you describe is exactly how i've been feeling of late. I'm on 2 pills/day and will be going down to 1 in a few days.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 28:

Last day on rebound. Latley Ive been feeling awful at night- stomach cramps and everything. I stayed in all weekend, Not sure if its related in anyway, I am also taking Omega sports cre-ethyl thuder, could be that.

Week 4 ended up being the best for strength, really impressed with the results.

[BuffaJoe]

DAY 29:

CYCLES OVER

recap: Great strength/ power/ size Increase. Very happy and impressed with this aspect of the product. Great focus and intensity during workouts. gained a couple pounds (2-3) during the 4 week cycle!!.
Unfortunatly NO reduction with Puerbutal gyno- I was hopefull, but really nothing to report.

Came with typical AI sides - Sore joints at high doeses and acne. The acne outbreak was actually a little worse than I anticipated.

bottom line: This supp. could be used for (or as part of) an excelent Non- hormonal stack.


I will keep a very close eye from here on for ANY sign of Estorgen rebound symptoms. I will repost if anything pops up at all, I know this is a big concern for some guys who want to use RXT.
I started my summer cut today (I know its a little late!)- hope everything works out.

[supaflash]

DAY 29:

CYCLES OVER

recap: Great strength/ power/ size Increase. Very happy and impressed with this aspect of the product. Great focus and intensity during workouts. gained a couple pounds (2-3) during the 4 week cycle!!.
Unfortunatly NO reduction with Puerbutal gyno- I was hopefull, but really nothing to report.

Came with typical AI sides - Sore joints at high doeses and acne. The acne outbreak was actually a little worse than I anticipated.

bottom line: This supp. could be used for (or as part of) an excelent Non- hormonal stack.


I will keep a very close eye from here on for ANY sign of Estorgen rebound symptoms. I will repost if anything pops up at all, I know this is a big concern for some guys who want to use RXT.
I started my summer cut today (I know its a little late!)- hope everything works out.

Im seriously doubting this product will reduce my pub induced gyno . It may work for gyno tits that are just starting to appear BUT FOR PRE EXISTING GYNO IT DOESNT DO JACK. Im in my second week at the dose "sldghmr" recommended. Taking in alot of fat and doing cardio twice a week also...I know I have yet to finish my cycle and its early to judge but if it didnt work on your pub related gyno, then the The " works on prexisting gyno " label needs to taken off the bottle.

[notadog]

evan nolvadex takes around 6 months to shrink pre existing gyno
dont expect to a few weeks to do it

[BuffaJoe]

Im seriously doubting this product will reduce my pub induced gyno . It may work for gyno tits that are just starting to appear BUT FOR PRE EXISTING GYNO IT DOESNT DO JACK. Im in my second week at the dose "sldghmr" recommended. Taking in alot of fat and doing cardio twice a week also...I know I have yet to finish my cycle and its early to judge but if it didnt work on your pub related gyno, then the The " works on prexisting gyno " label needs to taken off the bottle.

Then really start focusing of gaining strength. This supp will help you.

....Save up some $$ and get the sugery, its almost common-place nowadays, if you have questions go here:
www.gynecomastia.org

good luck- stay positive

[BuffaJoe]

...Acne is still hanging around, and I cant stop obsessing over checking if the tissue is growing (im really physcing myself out).

Had another great day In the gym, I wonder if my progress will begin to slow down.

Ive returned to my regular level of fatiuge/sorness after workouts- which is a good sign.

[ironLifeBG]

...Acne is still hanging around, and I cant stop obsessing over checking if the tissue is growing (im really physcing myself out).

Had another great day In the gym, I wonder if my progress will begin to slow down.

Ive returned to my regular level of fatiuge/sorness after workouts- which is a good sign.

stop obessing man don't let it become OCD because next thing you know ppl will be telling you, you have BDD and man you don't want that at all...

i am glad your workouts are going really well though.

[supaflash]

evan nolvadex takes around 6 months to shrink pre existing gyno
dont expect to a few weeks to do it


that study where everyone took nolva and some others took a placebo didnt have pix to prove anything. I know it was a large group of ppl for this study and everyone keeps posting that particular post about the research on it. it sounds great n all but such a waste if I can see any b4 n after results , dont you agree?? some ppl had slight help while others had an almost complete disappearance of the boobs . I think i remember this study focusing on those who had boobs already and these ppl had been taking at 20 mg's for a yr. I took it at 50 for 2 weeks , 40 for another 2 weeks and then 20mg's for almost 3 months and I saw jack. f**k that . Besides everyone here posts that it doesnt do anything for pre-existing boobs already.

[ellipticer]

that study where everyone took nolva and some others took a placebo didnt have pix to prove anything. I know it was a large group of ppl for this study and everyone keeps posting that particular post about the research on it. it sounds great n all but such a waste if I can see any b4 n after results , dont you agree?? some ppl had slight help while others had an almost complete disappearance of the boobs . I think i remember this study focusing on those who had boobs already and these ppl had been taking at 20 mg's for a yr. I took it at 50 for 2 weeks , 40 for another 2 weeks and then 20mg's for almost 3 months and I saw jack. f**k that . Besides everyone here posts that it doesnt do anything for pre-existing boobs already.

So you don't believe studies on Pub Med? Ummm... OK. You know that those are studies conducted at universities and published in worldwide peer-reviewed scientific journals, right? There are like 12 or 15 studies you can easily look up-- not just 1-- and they cover a wide range of AIs and SERMs. Personally, I did get results from Rebound-- 40% on one side and 10% reduction on the other. And I did post pics.. just like NFL Skillz posted pics... just like momod posted pics.... all 3 of us had pre-existing conditions.

Maybe you don't actually have gyno? At least half of the photos I've seen posted on this site from people who say they have gyno just have puffy nips or extra chest fat storage. I'm sorry you didn't get any results, but to question the studies on PubMed because there are no pics is just funny.

[ellipticer]

This is a new study to appear on PubMed, published in 2004:


Management of physiological gynaecomastia with tamoxifen.

Khan HN, Rampaul R, Blamey RW.

Professorial Unit of Surgery, Department of Surgery, Nottingham City Hospital, Nottingham NG5 1PB, UK. hamimi@dsl.pipex.com

AIMS: We aimed to confirm suggestions that tamoxifen therapy alone may resolve physiological gynaecomastia. METHODS: A prospective audit of the outcome of tamoxifen routinely given to men with physiological gynaecomastia was carried out at Nottingham. Men referred with gynaecomastia had clinical signs recorded, e.g., type (diffuse 'fatty' or retro-areolar 'lump'), size and possible aetiology. They were offered oral tamoxifen 20mg once daily for 6-12 weeks. On follow-up patients were assessed for complete resolution (CR), partial resolution where patient is satisfied with outcome (PR) or no resolution (NR). Success was either CR or PR. RESULTS: Thirty-six men accepted tamoxifen for physiological gynaecomastia. Median age was 31 (range 18-64). Tenderness was present in 25 (71%) cases. Sixteen men (45%) had 'fatty' gynaecomastia and 20 had 'lump' gynaecomastia. Tamoxifen resolved the mass in 30 patients (83.3%; CR=22, PR=8 ) and tenderness in 21 cases (84%; CR=0, PR=0). Lump gynaecomastia was more responsive to tamoxifen than the fatty type (100% vs. 62.5%; P=0.0041). CONCLUSIONS: Oral tamoxifen is an effective treatment for physiological gynaecomastia, especially for the lump type.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14759718

Notice how the results differentiate between "fatty" and "lump" gynecomastia and that there was 100% success in acheiving some resolution with lump-- but only 62% response from the fatty.

[BuffaJoe]

This is a new study to appear on PubMed, published in 2004:



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14759718

Notice how the results differentiate between "fatty" and "lump" gynecomastia and that there was 100% success in acheiving some resolution with lump-- but only 62% response from the fatty.

to update:

I feel good- But damn I still have acne all over my back; Little gressy bumps.

Had just an OK workout, mostly due to being in a huge rush- I was exhausted!
Im only eating about 2000 cals/daily now- so I am expecting to have some tiredness- sub-par workouts, less energy......etc.

I am going to the doctor next week for a physical- Im going to request bloodwork. wish I would have done it beofre the cycle, would have made a better log...

[supaflash]

So you don't believe studies on Pub Med? Ummm... OK. You know that those are studies conducted at universities and published in worldwide peer-reviewed scientific journals, right? There are like 12 or 15 studies you can easily look up-- not just 1-- and they cover a wide range of AIs and SERMs. Personally, I did get results from Rebound-- 40% on one side and 10% reduction on the other. And I did post pics.. just like NFL Skillz posted pics... just like momod posted pics.... all 3 of us had pre-existing conditions.

Maybe you don't actually have gyno? At least half of the photos I've seen posted on this site from people who say they have gyno just have puffy nips or extra chest fat storage. I'm sorry you didn't get any results, but to question the studies on PubMed because there are no pics is just funny.

still in the 2nd week of this stuff but Im extremely skeptical of it working for pube induced boobs not the pro hormone side effect kind thats just starting to appear.

[albusmc]

ellipticer I was just wondering what cycle you took for your RXT. I am on a 6 week cycle of Max LMG at 4 pills per day(100 mg). I will be starting my Rebound XT as soon as my Max Cycle is complete. I have 2 Bottles of RXT. I was thinking something like....

Week 1=4 pills a day
Week 2&3=3 pills a day
Weeks 4&5=2 pills a day
Week 6=1 pill a day

Coming to a total of 105 pills. I have a total of 120 pills. LEt me know what you think. Thank you very much.

[BuffaJoe]

Acne has already cleared up. I started cutting last week- and its going well.

Ive been keeping a close eye on the situation- nothing has changed in my chest.

although hardly noticable- i feel like im "back to normal"

my progress had slowed down in the gym- mabey due to cutting, mabey due to RXT-

[BuffaJoe]

My right nipple is bothering me- im getting a little concerned. Its very sensitive.

Damn, I hope its all in my head.

[laz]

My right nipple is bothering me- im getting a little concerned. Its very sensitive.

Damn, I hope its all in my head.


Usually when its sensitive thats not a good thing! I noticed that when mine is sensitive it is usually growing.

[laz]

How bad is the estrogen rebound coming off of something like rebound xt or novedex xt????? Is there anyway to avoid this????

[BuffaJoe]

Usually when its sensitive thats not a good thing! I noticed that when mine is sensitive it is usually growing.

Now youve got me worried :eek:

I tapered down- hopefully this is just a mind-game