The OFFICIAL NHL 2007/2008 SEASON THREAD!

[Dan O Mac]

My playoff predictions from the 4th page... Hmm..

Good call. Except for LA pushing for the playoffs :p

[buresnipes]

My playoff predictions from the 4th page... Hmm..

only off by vancouver and missing the preds

[MacGyverDel]

NJ up 1 after 1st in Ottawa. :o

2-0 shortly into 2nd.

Not even half way through the 2nd and the Devils up 3-0. :rolleyes:

[TheStack]

wow andrei kostitsyn just scored a highlight real goal. this guy is a future 40-45 goal scorer in this league for sure!

[Fernando Rollins]

The last 2 Devils Sens games I went to the Devils lost 9-1 and 4-2. The 1 game I don't go to and the Devils are up 3-0. I just can't win.

[MacGyverDel]

The last 2 Devils Sens games I went to the Devils lost 9-1 and 4-2. The 1 game I don't go to and the Devils are up 3-0. I just can't win.

:p A couple good fights tonight.

[MetFan]

2-1 Boston with 1 minute left in 2nd.


Had a 2 man advantage and barely got a shot, right now Maple Leafs are looking PATHETIC.

[LiftBigEatBig]

2-1 Boston with 1 minute left in 2nd.


Had a 2 man advantage and barely got a shot, right now Maple Leafs are looking PATHETIC.

I think they've looked pathetic the last 5 years. They need to move all their older assets with big contracts at the trade deadline, and get picks/prospects in return, and properly rebuild that franchise over 2 seasons.

[MetFan]

I think they've looked pathetic the last 5 years. They need to move all their older assets with big contracts at the trade deadline, and get picks/prospects in return, and properly rebuild that franchise over 2 seasons.

Funny you say that because that is exactly what I have been saying for the last 5 years.

Everyone on that team right now is tradeable, just overhaul the whole team and let some prospects play.

[MacGyverDel]

NJ up 1 after 1st in Ottawa. :o

2-0 shortly into 2nd.

Not even half way through the 2nd and the Devils up 3-0. :rolleyes:

Finally 3-1 Devils. 3:20 left in 2nd.

3-2 Devils in the 3rd. :D 7 min left.

[MetFan]

Finally. 2-2 after yet another 2 man advantage.

EDIT 3-2 Leafs now with 3 minutes to go. happy but not. Really want the first pick.

[MacGyverDel]

Well the Devils beat the Sens. :rolleyes:

:)

[Fernando Rollins]

Well the Devils beat the Sens. :rolleyes:

:)

I was getting pretty nervous towards the end. Very close game.

[Aries21]

lol 2 mins into the edm v. van game.. 2 fights.

[jsheppard1]

Thrash follow a great win over the Devils with one of the worst games I've ever seenthem play.

They were outshot 43-10 by the Islanders...

43 TO FUKIN 10!

[KingCanuck]

HUGE win for the Nucks!

Oilers had some cheap shots tonight that I didn't like (elbow on Kesler, cheapshot on Burrows while he was celebrating a goal), makes for an exciting game though!

[TheStack]

habs and devils are coming for the first place in the east

[canuckle]

HUGE win for the Nucks!

Oilers had some cheap shots tonight that I didn't like (elbow on Kesler, cheapshot on Burrows while he was celebrating a goal), makes for an exciting game though!

YAAAA BABAYYYY!

[brown_builder]

HUGE win for the Nucks!

Oilers had some cheap shots tonight that I didn't like (elbow on Kesler, cheapshot on Burrows while he was celebrating a goal), makes for an exciting game though!

it was an awesome game :D

[brown_builder]

Western Conference
1) DET* - 87 pts - 60 gp
2) DAL* - 77 pts - 62 gp
3) MIN* - 70 pts - 58 gp
4) ANA - 71 pts - 62 gp
5) SJS - 70 pts - 57 gp
6) NSH - 68 pts - 60 gp
7) CAL - 66 pts - 58 gp
8) VAN - 66 pts - 59 gp
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9) COL - 65 pts - 58 gp
10) PHX - 64 pts - 59 gp
11) CBJ - 63 pts - 60 gp
12) STL - 61 pts - 57 gp
13) EDM - 59 pts - 60 gp
14) CHI - 58 pts - 57 gp
15) LAK - 53 pts - 61 gp


Eastern Conference
1) OTT* - 73 pts - 59 gp
2) NJD* - 71 pts - 59 gp
3) CAR* - 64 pts - 61 gp
4) MTL - 71 pts - 59 gp
5) PIT - 69 pts - 58 gp
6) PHI - 65 pts - 58 gp
7) NYR - 65 pts - 60 gp
8) BOS - 64 pts - 58 gp
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9) BUF - 64 pts - 58 gp
10) WSH - 62 pts - 60 gp
11) ATL - 62 pts - 61 gp
12) NYI - 61 pts - 59 gp
13) FLA - 60 pts - 61 gp
14) TOR - 57 pts - 60 gp
15) TBL - 56 pts - 59 gp

[KingCanuck]

Hopefully SJ,Col, CBJ, NSH and CAL all lose today and NO 3 POINT GAMES PLEASE!

[TheStack]

Western Conference
1) DET* - 87 pts - 60 gp
2) DAL* - 77 pts - 62 gp
3) MIN* - 70 pts - 58 gp
4) ANA - 71 pts - 62 gp
5) SJS - 70 pts - 57 gp
6) NSH - 68 pts - 60 gp
7) CAL - 66 pts - 58 gp
8) VAN - 66 pts - 59 gp
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9) COL - 65 pts - 58 gp
10) PHX - 64 pts - 59 gp
11) CBJ - 63 pts - 60 gp
12) STL - 61 pts - 57 gp
13) EDM - 59 pts - 60 gp
14) CHI - 58 pts - 57 gp
15) LAK - 53 pts - 61 gp


Eastern Conference
1) OTT* - 73 pts - 59 gp
2) NJD* - 71 pts - 59 gp
3) CAR* - 64 pts - 61 gp
4) MTL - 71 pts - 59 gp
5) PIT - 69 pts - 58 gp
6) PHI - 65 pts - 58 gp
7) NYR - 65 pts - 60 gp
8) BOS - 64 pts - 58 gp
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9) BUF - 64 pts - 58 gp
10) WSH - 62 pts - 60 gp
11) ATL - 62 pts - 61 gp
12) NYI - 61 pts - 59 gp
13) FLA - 60 pts - 61 gp
14) TOR - 57 pts - 60 gp
15) TBL - 56 pts - 59 gp


LOL the southeast division is absolute crap. They should change it so that there are no divisions anymore. Because of that, one of these 5 crappy teams will make the playoffs.

[buresnipes]

Dallas = best team in the NHL right NOW

[jsheppard1]

LOL the southeast division is absolute crap. They should change it so that there are no divisions anymore. Because of that, one of these 5 crappy teams will make the playoffs.

You're always gonna have a crappy division, no matter what sport. Take for instance the NFL last year, the NFC South was garbage. The same can be said for the NBA and the Eastern Conference.


You are always going to have years where you have crappy divisions/confrences. Let us not forget that 2 of the last 3 Stanley Cup champs were from the southeast....

[KingCanuck]

Hopefully SJ,Col, CBJ, NSH and CAL all lose today and NO 3 POINT GAMES PLEASE!

3/3 So far!!!

[DRob27]

Pens beat the Sabres tonight. Malkin moved up to 2nd place and is 1 point behind Ovechkin.

Pens 71 points tied for 2nd in the conference again.

[KingCanuck]

Hopefully SJ,Col, CBJ, NSH and CAL all lose today and NO 3 POINT GAMES PLEASE!

5 for 5!!! Too bad Nashville still got a point but not bad.

Great weekend for Canucks fans. :cool:

[Dan O Mac]

Damn, what's wrong with Detroit? 5 in a row.

[TheStack]

Habs are tied for 1st in the east, first time since 1993 baby!

[bignpisst]

Damn, what's wrong with Detroit? 5 in a row.

I dont know but its pissing me off

[buresnipes]

I dont know but its pissing me off

really? cuz i am loving it. soon my stars will be first in the league.

[oline73]

ek9m9n8uiw0

[Dan O Mac]

I dont know but its pissing me off

Aren't you already pissed (user name)? :p Guess you're beyond pissed now then. They have too good of a team and too good of people handling the team not to pull out of it. They weren't going to keep on the record pace all year, and facing some adversity now could very well prevent a playoff upset caused by complacency or over-confidence.

[Dan O Mac]

Per TSN: Forsberg not coming back. Woo hoo! Sundin's value just got that much higher.

[buresnipes]

Per TSN: Forsberg not coming back. Woo hoo! Sundin's value just got that much higher.

Sundin isn't going anywhere. he will stay in Toronto.

[KingCanuck]

Sundin isn't going anywhere. he will stay in Toronto.

Hes going for sure.

Nice the Sharks lost today, hopefully the Avs and Phx loses as well..

[Pornographer]

east:
1)New Jersey
2)Montreal
3)Washington(div)
4)Pittsburgh
5)Ottawa
6)Philadelphia
7)Rangers
8)Boston



West
1)Detroit
2)Anaheim
3)Minnesota
4)Dallas
5)San Jose
6)Colorado
7)Calgary
8)Columbus

[bignpisst]

really? cuz i am loving it. soon my stars will be first in the league.

Not gonna happen. The Wings start the turnaround tonight


Aren't you already pissed (user name)? :p Guess you're beyond pissed now then. They have too good of a team and too good of people handling the team not to pull out of it. They weren't going to keep on the record pace all year, and facing some adversity now could very well prevent a playoff upset caused by complacency or over-confidence.

Yeah it is hard to keep up that pace. I would rather a let down now than in the playoffs

[canuckle]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230008&hubname=


...
"I think it was a little lack of respect by him," said Henrik Zetterberg, who scored two goals in the second period. "I don't think it should have happened."
...
"We can't be running the superstars out of our game," Downey said. "If you want to have a good, clean hit, go out there and have a good, clean hit. I have no problem with that. But when the elbows are up, when you hit probably one of the best defencemen to play the game, it's a joke in my mind. So the message is similar: The next time anyone runs one of our guys the way it shouldn't be done, then the message will be sent. Fair justice is fair justice."
...
"I wasn't very impressed with what happened," Babcock said. "I watched the replay a number of times and I didn't like the play."



The hit was 100% clean. Laperriere didn't leave his feet, charge, head hunt, etc etc. What a bunch of whiners.

[Fernando Rollins]

east:
1)New Jersey
2)Montreal
3)Washington(div)
4)Pittsburgh
5)Ottawa
6)Philadelphia
7)Rangers
8)Boston



West
1)Detroit
2)Anaheim
3)Minnesota
4)Dallas
5)San Jose
6)Colorado
7)Calgary
8)Columbus
Right on.

[Dan O Mac]

Sundin isn't going anywhere. he will stay in Toronto.

He'll waive it, get a shot at the cup, then re-sign in the summer. Word is the Stars want him, too bad they don't have any prospects or a 1st to offer us :D (Yeah that was a crack from a guy who's team is 2nd last overall :p)

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230008&hubname=


The hit was 100% clean. Laperriere didn't leave his feet, charge, head hunt, etc etc. What a bunch of whiners.

I'm sick and tired of guys being forced to drop them after a clean hit. If you take a run at a guy, fine, you've gotta answer for that. But hitting's a part of the game and your skill level doesn't exempt you from that part of it. It's **** like that that's gonna take the physicality out of the game. If your team's that pissed about a clean hit, have your enforcer tap the other team's on the shoulder; that's their job.

[buresnipes]

He'll waive it, get a shot at the cup, then re-sign in the summer. Word is the Stars want him, too bad they don't have any prospects or a 1st to offer us :D (Yeah that was a crack from a guy who's team is 2nd last overall :p)


.

hahaha. the Stars are good the way they are. We'll pick up Hossa instead of sundin if we wanted anyone. MY dad keeps saying sundin to thje stars. you leaf fans are all alike.

[KingCanuck]

Any update on Lidstroms injury? I got him in my hockey pool.

[Dan O Mac]

hahaha. the Stars are good the way they are. We'll pick up Hossa instead of sundin if we wanted anyone. MY dad keeps saying sundin to thje stars. you leaf fans are all alike.

Yeah I actually think Hossa would be a better fit with the Stars, he could play well with Modano. Getting Boucher back should help too.

Anyone hear about the Windsor Spitfires (OHL) captain dying yesterday? He was 19 and drafted by Calgary. I wonder what happened.

[Kovalchuk]

Anyone hear about the Windsor Spitfires (OHL) captain dying yesterday? He was 19 and drafted by Calgary. I wonder what happened.

Autopsy is being done today.

Should have results in the next week or so.

[buresnipes]

Yeah I actually think Hossa would be a better fit with the Stars, he could play well with Modano. Getting Boucher back should help too.

Anyone hear about the Windsor Spitfires (OHL) captain dying yesterday? He was 19 and drafted by Calgary. I wonder what happened.

ya we need boucher and zubov back. our defence is doing extremely well without them. i am shocked by how good this niskanen kid is.

ya he died in his home a day after playing the attack. they said they are only going to release the autopsy to his mother.

you wouldn't think a healthy 19 year old would just collapse in his home a day after a game.

[Dan O Mac]

ya we need boucher and zubov back. our defence is doing extremely well without them. i am shocked by how good this niskanen kid is.

ya he died in his home a day after playing the attack. they said they are only going to release the autopsy to his mother.

you wouldn't think a healthy 19 year old would just collapse in his home a day after a game.

I thought Niskanen would be good, just not this soon. He's got a really European-sounding name, but is actually American. Too bad, would've fit in with all the other Finns on the team, haha.

Thanks for the info Kovalchuk, I'm guessing it's a previously undetected heart condition. Always seems to be when a young athlete in peak condition dies. Happened to a 27 year old player in Europe a few months back.

[DRob27]

New league leader in points gentlemen! Evgeni Malkin 79 points.

edit: Pens now included in the 4-way tie for 1st place in the Eastern Conference.

3-2 win over Florida 3 goals in the third period. :)


RE-EDIT: Nvm about the 4-way tie lol Ottawa is in OT so no matter what they're still in 1st
re-re-edit: Montreal also tied for first now lol, crap

kind of funny since we play montreal and ottawa in our next two games

[TheStack]

Canadiens back from 0-5 to 6-5!!!!

1st place in the east, rock on!

[DRob27]

The pens trading for Hossa has been going around in Pittsburgh lately. That would be fantastic, keeping Malkin and Sykora together(doing amazing) and then having a great winger for Crosby when he comes back.

[KingCanuck]

Canucks won!

D.Sedin/H.Sedin/Naslund line is on fire.

[oline73]

The pens trading for Hossa has been going around in Pittsburgh lately. That would be fantastic, keeping Malkin and Sykora together(doing amazing) and then having a great winger for Crosby when he comes back.

ive heard hossa to boston, on the boston stations

[Dan O Mac]

The pens trading for Hossa has been going around in Pittsburgh lately. That would be fantastic, keeping Malkin and Sykora together(doing amazing) and then having a great winger for Crosby when he comes back.

Hossa in Pitt would be sweet, but the price is gonna be high. Since the team probably won't win it all this year, I don't know if they'd be willing to pay it unless they get an extension with Marian.

[Kovalchuk]

Hossa in Pitt would be sweet, but the price is gonna be high. Since the team probably won't win it all this year, I don't know if they'd be willing to pay it unless they get an extension with Marian.

Hossa will not go for a rent-a-player deal.

If he moves... he wants a long-term deal to a team committed to winning.

[TheStack]

Hossa or not, the pens are too weak on defence to win the cup.

[proteinpump]

I am a Flyers fan that is about to jump off of a bridge! :(

[Kovalchuk]

I am a Flyers fan that is about to jump off of a bridge! :(

You guys played well lastnight considering the injury situation.

1-10 record in shootouts is tough though... so is the news Peter the Great ain't coming back.

[TheStack]

I am a Flyers fan that is about to jump off of a bridge! :(

I feel for you...but you are still better than last year. i'm pretty sure you will make playoffs.

[Vandamwtc]

Holy crap did the Rangers ever choke... probably the worst in recent memory.

[oline73]

hey protien, maybe me and you can put on our flyers jerseys and jump together.. even though this is a lot better than last year, but the 8 SEED!! the bruins are better than that, i guess its good that the east is so tight

[brown_builder]

Western Conference
1) DET* - 89 pts - 62 gp
2) DAL* - 79 pts - 63 gp
3) MIN* - 73 pts - 60 gp
4) ANA - 73 pts - 63 gp
5) NSH - 71 pts - 62 gp
6) SJS - 70 pts - 59 gp
7) VAN - 68 pts - 60 gp
8) CAL - 68 pts - 60 gp
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9) PHX - 66 pts - 61 gp
10) STL - 65 pts - 59 gp
11) COL - 65 pts - 60 gp
12) CBJ - 63 pts - 62 gp
13) CHI - 60 pts - 59 gp
14) EDM - 59 pts - 61 gp
15) LAK - 53 pts - 62 gp


Eastern Conference
1) OTT* - 75 pts - 60 gp
2) NJD* - 73 pts - 60 gp
3) CAR* - 65 pts - 63 gp
4) MTL - 75 pts - 61 gp
5) PIT - 73 pts - 60 gp
6) NYR - 68 pts - 62 gp
7) BOS - 66 pts - 59 gp
8) PHI - 66 pts - 60 gp
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9) BUF - 64 pts - 59 gp
10) NYI - 63 pts - 60 gp
11) WSH - 62 pts - 60 gp
12) ATL - 62 pts - 61 gp
13) FLA - 60 pts - 62 gp
14) TOR - 59 pts - 61 gp
15) TBL - 56 pts - 59 gp

[sensimilla]

my two teams are probably the worst franchises in this history of the NHL: Columbus and Washington. I phail. Discuss

[Baker19]

go leafs go.
my team has great potential this year. if Toskala can break out and become a legit number 1 goaltender then i think we can go deep into the playoffs.

oh hai believer

56 pts ftw?

Dallas ftw this year

[Vandamwtc]

Isles are looking pretty good considering they're missing Witt, Gervais, Sutton and Campoli. 2-2 in the third... Lets go Islanders!

[Vandamwtc]

Radek Martinek is doing awesome tonight, way to step up the defense!

[TheStack]

Holy crap did the Rangers ever choke... probably the worst in recent memory.

yep, they do suck

[jsheppard1]

Isles are looking pretty good considering they're missing Witt, Gervais, Sutton and Campoli. 2-2 in the third... Lets go Islanders!

I'm sure DiPietro doesn't miss Sutton. Now he doesn't have a giant traffic cone in front of him screening all the shots.

[Dan O Mac]

New parlay for this week, includes a nice Southeast battle:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=131841171#post131841171

[proteinpump]

hey protien, maybe me and you can put on our flyers jerseys and jump together.. even though this is a lot better than last year, but the 8 SEED!! the bruins are better than that, i guess its good that the east is so tight

If they keep losing, I will take you up on that offer! :)

[wendel34]

my Pens are playing the Habs tonight, i am kinda worried yet pumped, cant wait till the injuries are over.

[DRob27]

my Pens are playing the Habs tonight, i am kinda worried yet pumped, cant wait till the injuries are over.

I'm alittle worried because Sabourin is starting instead of Conklin.

Also, I've heard rumor of Michael Ryder as another possible trade for the pens.

[harrisjl]

Canes and Thrashers tonight :D

I'm going with a large crowd tonight.... I had tickets to the game bought better seats and am going to trade my original tickets for a Rangers game later in the season :D Good stuff...

[wendel34]

I'm alittle worried because Sabourin is starting instead of Conklin.

Also, I've heard rumor of Michael Ryder as another possible trade for the pens.


who will they trade to get him????

[BMC1979]

I'm going to be honest. I haven't watched the last couple Oilers games. Just can't seem to bring myself to do it. The last game by the time I got home and turned it on, they were down 3-1 (granted they came back but still ended up losing in the last couple minutes...how many games has that happened this year) and I turned the channel. It's been pretty disheartening this year. I didn't expect them to do great but with all the injuries and inconsistent play, it just gets harder and harder to watch as the season goes on.

There have been some bright spots such as Garon and the young kids playing better than expected. Makes the future look a little brighter.

I'm waiting to see if K-Lowe will actually try and make any moves before the deadline. Hopefully he doesn't do something stupid like trade their top player for $0.30 on the dollar and completely demoralize the whole team to the point where they only win one of their last 20+ games...oh wait, that was last year.

[Dan O Mac]

Canes and Thrashers tonight :D

I'm going with a large crowd tonight.... I had tickets to the game bought better seats and am going to trade my original tickets for a Rangers game later in the season :D Good stuff...

Should be a good one with the division so tight. I definitely feel for you guys losing Rod though, and Cullen is still having lingering effects from his concussion I here.


who will they trade to get him????

With Ryder struggling and also a pending UFA, they could get him for a 2nd and a mid-level prospect/bottom 6 roster player I'd assume.

[sensimilla]

My jackets got a huge win tonight against the sens. Our GM implied that Saturdays game vs. Montreal will largely dictate whether they are buyers or sellers. If they don't come away with 2 points Saturday night, I'd expect Federov to be wearing a Red Wings jersey by Monday. You heard it here first.

[harrisjl]

Should be a good one with the division so tight. I definitely feel for you guys losing Rod though, and Cullen is still having lingering effects from his concussion I here.

Best game I've sean them play live all year.... Rod's been my fav player ever since Ron Francis retired :D Samsonov is my favorite (player who's playing) now....

[DRob27]

Another come from behind victory for the Pens tonight, beating the Canadiens 5-4. Puts us 1 point behind Ottawa. Malkin now 3 points ahead of Ovechkin. We play Ottawa on saturday, should be a great game, very important.

My boy Ruutu scored :)

[KingCanuck]

Luongo stole a win tonight!!! Nashville had 50 shots while the Canucks had something in the late 20s.

3-2 win in the shootout.

[canuckle]

I'm going to be honest. I haven't watched the last couple Oilers games. Just can't seem to bring myself to do it. The last game by the time I got home and turned it on, they were down 3-1 (granted they came back but still ended up losing in the last couple minutes...how many games has that happened this year) and I turned the channel. It's been pretty disheartening this year. I didn't expect them to do great but with all the injuries and inconsistent play, it just gets harder and harder to watch as the season goes on.

There have been some bright spots such as Garon and the young kids playing better than expected. Makes the future look a little brighter.

I'm waiting to see if K-Lowe will actually try and make any moves before the deadline. Hopefully he doesn't do something stupid like trade their top player for $0.30 on the dollar and completely demoralize the whole team to the point where they only win one of their last 20+ games...oh wait, that was last year.

Man watching your team continually lose sucks ass. I remember the canucks in the late 90s and people would make fun of me for watching ahha. I really think the oiler's problems start from management and go all the way down. You guys have a pretty good old boys club going there.


Another come from behind victory for the Pens tonight, beating the Canadiens 5-4. Puts us 1 point behind Ottawa. Malkin now 3 points ahead of Ovechkin. We play Ottawa on saturday, should be a great game, very important.

My boy Ruutu scored :)

haha you guys enjoying Ruutu down there? The guy is entertaining as hell to watch. He's pretty darn good in the shootouts too but I don't know if you've seen that down there with your stars shooting.


Luongo stole a win tonight!!! Nashville had 50 shots while the Canucks had something in the late 20s.

3-2 win in the shootout.

YA buddy. Didn't get to catch the game but just saw the results. Much needed 2 points. How did Bieksa look? Finally getting some bodies back...


Damn need to get my reps up to bet in the parlays :(

[BMC1979]

Man watching your team continually lose sucks ass. I remember the canucks in the late 90s and people would make fun of me for watching ahha. I really think the oiler's problems start from management and go all the way down. You guys have a pretty good old boys club going there.



Outside of the miracle run a couple years ago, the Oilers haven't done anything since the early 90's. Many years of not making it out of the first round (usually due to the damn Dallas Stars...how I hate them).

I agree about the old boys club. Seems like everyon in management or behind the bench is a former player. Don't think this is the best plan because I believe with that comes too much loyalty to ex-teammates. For example, MacT should have been gone a couple years ago. The only thing that saved him was their run to the finals. Lowe isn't much better. He makes moves that are questionable and don't make sense. Hopefully once the new ownership starts going, they'll clean house and make some much needed and overdue changes.

[Dan O Mac]

Best game I've sean them play live all year.... Rod's been my fav player ever since Ron Francis retired :D Samsonov is my favorite (player who's playing) now....

I thought Samsonov would do well in Laviolette's system, he really emphasizes skating and offense. Fun team to watch for sure.

[KingCanuck]

Man watching your team continually lose sucks ass. I remember the canucks in the late 90s and people would make fun of me for watching ahha. I really think the oiler's problems start from management and go all the way down. You guys have a pretty good old boys club going there.



haha you guys enjoying Ruutu down there? The guy is entertaining as hell to watch. He's pretty darn good in the shootouts too but I don't know if you've seen that down there with your stars shooting.



YA buddy. Didn't get to catch the game but just saw the results. Much needed 2 points. How did Bieksa look? Finally getting some bodies back...


Damn need to get my reps up to bet in the parlays :(

Bieksa was alright, you could tell he hasn't played in a while. But he had a lot of shots toward goal and his toughness was very present.

Raymond was the best forward tonight, he had a pretty regulation goal and an even sweeter shoot out goal.

The Canucks future is bright.

[KingCanuck]

The Hockey News ranks the top 30 NHL goalies.

30. Kari Lehtonen Atl
29. Crhis Mason Nsh
28. Antero Nittymaki Phi
27. Josh Harding Min
26. Cam Ward Car
25. Matheiu Garon Edm
24. Dan Ellis Nsh
23. Martin Biron Phi
22. Cristobal Huet Mtl
21. Martin Gerber Ott
20. Jose Theodore Col
19. Manny Legace St.L
18. Niklas Backstrom Min
17. Vesa Toskala Tor
16. Rick DiPietro NYI
15. Ty Conklin Pit
14. Ilya Bryzgalov Phx
13. Tim Thomas Bos
12. Domink Hasek Det
11. Miikka Kiprusoff Cgy
10. Mary Turco Dal
9. Henrik Lundqvist NYR (who was also named the NHLs most overpaid goalie starting next year)
8. Ryan Miller Buf
7. Tomas Vokoun Flo
6. J-S Giguere Ana
5. Chris Osgood Det
4. Pascal Leclaire CBJ
3. Martin Brodeur Nj
2. Evgeni Nabokov Sj
1. Roberto Luongo Van

No other team relies on it's goaltending as heavily as the Canucks. Seven of eight teams ahead of Vancouver had scored more goals, while San Jose had scored the same as Vancouver, but with a game in hand. The Canucks are a defense-first team which is nice when you have a goaltender like Luongo, but not so nice if you plan to go deep into the playoffs. Luongo gladly accepts his responsibility. "We know what kind of team we have and we know when we are playing our system we'll win games 2-1 and 3-2", Luongo says. "I'm comfortable with that. It's better that having no offense and no defense. That is the type of hockey we play and when we play well it's awesome."


off the Top 30 list are

Ray Emery 7th last year
M-A Fleury 10th last year
M. Fernandez 15th last year
Olaf Kolzig 17th last year
D. Roloson 18th last year
A. Raycroft 19th last year
J. Holmqvist 23rd last year
N. Khabibulin 24th last year
Peter Budaj 25th last year
Ed Belfour 29th last year

[DRob27]

The Hockey News ranks the top 30 NHL goalies.

15. Ty Conklin Pit


With the highest save % in the league and i think #4 in GAA, I'm not quite sure how Conklin is #15. He's been playing amazing.

Maybe that list is over the whole year so far?

[jsheppard1]

The Hockey News ranks the top 30 NHL goalies.

30. Kari Lehtonen Atl
29. Crhis Mason Nsh
28. Antero Nittymaki Phi
27. Josh Harding Min
26. Cam Ward Car
25. Matheiu Garon Edm
24. Dan Ellis Nsh
23. Martin Biron Phi
22. Cristobal Huet Mtl
21. Martin Gerber Ott
20. Jose Theodore Col
19. Manny Legace St.L
18. Niklas Backstrom Min
17. Vesa Toskala Tor
16. Rick DiPietro NYI
15. Ty Conklin Pit
14. Ilya Bryzgalov Phx
13. Tim Thomas Bos
12. Domink Hasek Det
11. Miikka Kiprusoff Cgy
10. Mary Turco Dal
9. Henrik Lundqvist NYR (who was also named the NHLs most overpaid goalie starting next year)
8. Ryan Miller Buf
7. Tomas Vokoun Flo
6. J-S Giguere Ana
5. Chris Osgood Det
4. Pascal Leclaire CBJ
3. Martin Brodeur Nj
2. Evgeni Nabokov Sj
1. Roberto Luongo Van

No other team relies on it's goaltending as heavily as the Canucks. Seven of eight teams ahead of Vancouver had scored more goals, while San Jose had scored the same as Vancouver, but with a game in hand. The Canucks are a defense-first team which is nice when you have a goaltender like Luongo, but not so nice if you plan to go deep into the playoffs. Luongo gladly accepts his responsibility. "We know what kind of team we have and we know when we are playing our system we'll win games 2-1 and 3-2", Luongo says. "I'm comfortable with that. It's better that having no offense and no defense. That is the type of hockey we play and when we play well it's awesome."


off the Top 30 list are

Ray Emery 7th last year
M-A Fleury 10th last year
M. Fernandez 15th last year
Olaf Kolzig 17th last year
D. Roloson 18th last year
A. Raycroft 19th last year
J. Holmqvist 23rd last year
N. Khabibulin 24th last year
Peter Budaj 25th last year
Ed Belfour 29th last year


Uh, Kari Lehtonen is 30th!?

Have you seen how many shots a game this guy takes? In the last two games combined he's faced 95 SHOTS!!! Yet he still has a .916 Save %.

Not trying to be a homer, but he's having a career year.

[Fernando Rollins]

I'm satisfied with the number 3 spot.

[KingCanuck]

The Hockey News ranks the top 30 NHL goalies.

30. Kari Lehtonen Atl
29. Crhis Mason Nsh
28. Antero Nittymaki Phi
27. Josh Harding Min
26. Cam Ward Car
25. Matheiu Garon Edm
24. Dan Ellis Nsh
23. Martin Biron Phi
22. Cristobal Huet Mtl
21. Martin Gerber Ott
20. Jose Theodore Col
19. Manny Legace St.L
18. Niklas Backstrom Min
17. Vesa Toskala Tor
16. Rick DiPietro NYI
15. Ty Conklin Pit
14. Ilya Bryzgalov Phx
13. Tim Thomas Bos
12. Domink Hasek Det
11. Miikka Kiprusoff Cgy
10. Mary Turco Dal
9. Henrik Lundqvist NYR (who was also named the NHLs most overpaid goalie starting next year)
8. Ryan Miller Buf
7. Tomas Vokoun Flo
6. J-S Giguere Ana
5. Chris Osgood Det
4. Pascal Leclaire CBJ
3. Martin Brodeur Nj
2. Evgeni Nabokov Sj
1. Roberto Luongo Van

No other team relies on it's goaltending as heavily as the Canucks. Seven of eight teams ahead of Vancouver had scored more goals, while San Jose had scored the same as Vancouver, but with a game in hand. The Canucks are a defense-first team which is nice when you have a goaltender like Luongo, but not so nice if you plan to go deep into the playoffs. Luongo gladly accepts his responsibility. "We know what kind of team we have and we know when we are playing our system we'll win games 2-1 and 3-2", Luongo says. "I'm comfortable with that. It's better that having no offense and no defense. That is the type of hockey we play and when we play well it's awesome."


off the Top 30 list are

Ray Emery 7th last year
M-A Fleury 10th last year
M. Fernandez 15th last year
Olaf Kolzig 17th last year
D. Roloson 18th last year
A. Raycroft 19th last year
J. Holmqvist 23rd last year
N. Khabibulin 24th last year
Peter Budaj 25th last year
Ed Belfour 29th last year

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Damn Kipper fell off!

[DRob27]

HUGE game tomorrow, Pens vs. Sens at I believe 3 O'Clock. This game could decide who's first in the conference. The devils and canadiens both have their own games tomorrow also, so you never know who could come out on top of the east.

Big day, can't wait :)

[Kovalchuk]

Gerber is terrible.

Gerber should be #73

Emery #159

[buresnipes]

My Stars are still on fire. I love how at the start of the season people were saying that they weren't even going to make the playoffs. now they are in 2nd in the league. gotta love it.

[Kovalchuk]

My Stars are still on fire. I love how at the start of the season people were saying that they weren't even going to make the playoffs. now they are in 2nd in the league. gotta love it.

Tell Niskanen to start gettting more points again please.

[LVI]

So i havent been on a computer in over a week. My work sent me to a **** hole called Ft McMurray, so if any of you know what and where that is then you'll know why. :)

So I guess my Oil havent been doing to well. I saw some hilights last week but basically we suck. I havent given up on the Oil, but this year is done and if we arent sellers but buyers then Katz better sell KLowe in the summer once he takes over.

And Canuckle stated last page that there is too many Old Oilers running the team. Well all we need to do is get rid of MacT(too defensive minded) and KLowe(has pissed me off) then we'll be fine.

Sorry just venting.

[oline73]

so tonight i went to an ahl game falcons(oilers) vs bruins(bruins)

bruins won 4-1 lots of fights but schremp for springfield falcons is dirty, so is polunty he dangled a d-man at center ice went on a break pulled a move and raask made a phenomenal save, basically raask is going to be a pretty good goalier in the future and schremp is already nhl ready and the oilers are going to get a good player in him

[KingCanuck]

Canucks beat the Wings 4-1!! 4th win in a row.

Kesler had two goals tonight, good game for him.

[canuckle]

Canucks beat the Wings 4-1!! 4th win in a row.

Kesler had two goals tonight, good game for him.

Kes showed some pretty good hands tonight. What was up with the reffing (no homer)? I looked like the refs were looking too hard to find penalties (that bieksa penalty was brutal!) and was quite inconsistent. I only caught the first 2 periods of the laffs game, but the refs didn't look much better.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230429&hubname=

''If you can't beat one of the worst teams in the conference, we don't deserve it,'' said centre Bobby Holik. ''There's no room for excuses. Those are facts. We all know that we lost to the Toronto Maple Leafs tonight, and what else is there to say? We weren't good enough to win. We weren't good enough in any aspect of the game.''

lulz

I have to admit I feel sorry for Sundin. He has been nothing but a loyal horse for the laffs and they've pretty much backed him into a corner. He either accepts a trade against his will or he stays with a team that doesn't want him. He will get **** no matter which way he goes now.

[Greg1983]

The Hockey News ranks the top 30 NHL goalies.

30. Kari Lehtonen Atl
29. Crhis Mason Nsh
28. Antero Nittymaki Phi
27. Josh Harding Min
26. Cam Ward Car
25. Matheiu Garon Edm
24. Dan Ellis Nsh
23. Martin Biron Phi
22. Cristobal Huet Mtl
21. Martin Gerber Ott
20. Jose Theodore Col
19. Manny Legace St.L
18. Niklas Backstrom Min
17. Vesa Toskala Tor
16. Rick DiPietro NYI
15. Ty Conklin Pit
14. Ilya Bryzgalov Phx
13. Tim Thomas Bos
12. Domink Hasek Det
11. Miikka Kiprusoff Cgy
10. Mary Turco Dal
9. Henrik Lundqvist NYR (who was also named the NHLs most overpaid goalie starting next year)
8. Ryan Miller Buf
7. Tomas Vokoun Flo
6. J-S Giguere Ana
5. Chris Osgood Det
4. Pascal Leclaire CBJ
3. Martin Brodeur Nj
2. Evgeni Nabokov Sj
1. Roberto Luongo Van


Unfortunately, I think the assessment of Kipper is about right. I'd maybe rank him a little higher, because I think durability is huge for a goaltender. He's one of the big 3 (Brodeur, Luongo, Miika) when it comes to minutes every year, and this year has been no different. Leclaire may have racked up some prettier stats, but Columbus having to play their backup as much as they have has got them all the way to the 11th seed. But that's not my biggest criticism of the list.

Brodeur at 3 just makes me scratch my head. I could at least see an arguement for Luongo being ahead of him (I wouldn't agree with it, but I'd see it). But Nabokov? Ignoring what they've done in the past (in which case a comparison would be laughable), Brodeur is leading Nabokov this year in wins, GAA, and save percentage, all with a sketchier team in front of him. People just get sick of seeing the same people at the top I guess. But come playoffs, there isn't a goalie I'd want in net more than Brodeur.

[jsheppard1]

Well, I tried to stay optimistic but I can now say that the Thrashers are done. Third loss in a row, this time to the lowly-Leafs.

Hossa will be gone in the next 48 hours; probably Holik to.

Time to start rebuilding for next year.

[Dan O Mac]

Unfortunately, I think the assessment of Kipper is about right. I'd maybe rank him a little higher, because I think durability is huge for a goaltender. He's one of the big 3 (Brodeur, Luongo, Miika) when it comes to minutes every year, and this year has been no different. Leclaire may have racked up some prettier stats, but Columbus having to play their backup as much as they have has got them all the way to the 11th seed. But that's not my biggest criticism of the list.

Brodeur at 3 just makes me scratch my head. I could at least see an arguement for Luongo being ahead of him (I wouldn't agree with it, but I'd see it). But Nabokov? Ignoring what they've done in the past (in which case a comparison would be laughable), Brodeur is leading Nabokov this year in wins, GAA, and save percentage, all with a sketchier team in front of him. People just get sick of seeing the same people at the top I guess. But come playoffs, there isn't a goalie I'd want in net more than Brodeur.

I understand they're looking at this season only, but you can't just go by stats. Any list that doesn't begin with Luongo and Brodeur in some order is automatically flawed. Who would you want in net in Game 7 of the cup final? Those two over Nabokov every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

And Khabibulin being left out of the top 30 is a joke. He's won a cup and has been really good considering his defence. Some of those hot streak/flash in the pan guys should not be ahead of him, especially when some have barely played 20 games.

Alas, THN has been going downhill for awhile now. I miss the days when Bob McKenzie was editor and Ken Campbell didn't have his hand prints on half the articles :(

A

[buresnipes]

Tell Niskanen to start gettting more points again please.

i did. he got an assist last night.

[wendel34]

Pens vs Sharks game finally got started, Tranny blew up on the zamboni and made a hell of a mess...........

[TheStack]

LOL at Brad Richards making a list of teams like he is a good hockey player anyway. I'm surprised there are some teams interested in a 8,3 M a year guy who deserves 3,5M at best. The most overpaid player since Bobby Holik.

[KingCanuck]

LOL at Brad Richards making a list of teams like he is a good hockey player anyway. I'm surprised there are some teams interested in a 7,2 M a year guy who deserves 3,5M at best. The most overpaid player since Bobby Holik.

IMO hes a good player..

I've heard hes been playing with a severe case of Mono the whole season...plus hes been playing on the 2nd line with no-namers (Havlac and Oulette), on the worst team in the conference, yet he is still on a good pace...

But not worth 8.3 million though.

[chyeahBOYY]

kari lehtonen ranked WAY too low, thrashers don't give him any support defensive and as of late are ****ty as hell on offense. kovalchuk has disappared and hossa is gone soon.

and osgood is way overrated. after the allstar break he hasnt even been a top 15 goalie imo.

[canuckle]

LOL at Brad Richards making a list of teams like he is a good hockey player anyway. I'm surprised there are some teams interested in a 8,3 M a year guy who deserves 3,5M at best. The most overpaid player since Bobby Holik.


IMO hes a good player..

I've heard hes been playing with a severe case of Mono the whole season...plus hes been playing on the 2nd line with no-namers (Havlac and Oulette), on the worst team in the conference, yet he is still on a good pace...

But not worth 8.3 million though.

Hell I'd love Richards on the nucks but at $7.8mil/year that's too much. Unless tampa pays some of his salary (a la jagr with washington) or they get him for dirt cheap I wouldn't do it. His bloated salary will mess up the canucks having to resign a bunch of people over the next couple years. If only nonis had signed a play maker/scorer the last off season :(

[Dan O Mac]

IMO hes a good player..

I've heard hes been playing with a severe case of Mono the whole season...plus hes been playing on the 2nd line with no-namers (Havlac and Oulette), on the worst team in the conference, yet he is still on a good pace...

But not worth 8.3 million though.

Bang on. Dude's playing hurt with glorified AHL wingers. He has a Conn Smythe and played great for Canada internationally. He's a top 10 scorer in any other situation.

[KingCanuck]

Bang on. Dude's playing hurt with glorified AHL wingers. He has a Conn Smythe and played great for Canada internationally. He's a top 10 scorer in any other situation.

TSN is saying that the Canucks, Stars have made an offer to Tampa for Richards.

[TheStack]

TSN is saying that the Canucks, Stars have made an offer to Tampa for Richards.

Columbus too, they offered Derrek Brassard, their first rounder from 2 years ago.

[KingCanuck]

Columbus too, they offered Derrek Brassard, their first rounder from 2 years ago.

Thats it?

[Dan O Mac]

Tampa needs a goaltender and a winger in return, those are their two biggest trouble spots. Problem is, unless they settle for a goalie prospect, they may have to wait until the draft to make a deal.

[KingCanuck]

Tampa needs a goaltender and a winger in return, those are their two biggest trouble spots. Problem is, unless they settle for a goalie prospect, they may have to wait until the draft to make a deal.

To Tampa: Luongo

To Vancouver: Richards



:D :D :D :D















Just kidding

[Kovalchuk]

Thrashers are about to lose Hossa...

BYE BYE 2007.

Amazing pick-up for the Sens though if it goes through, the best-two way player in the NHL will certainly help their defensive woes.

[chyeahBOYY]

the habs seem like the frontrunners to get marian hossa. the sens would be sick if they can somehow land him tho.

[KingCanuck]

Thrashers are about to lose Hossa...

BYE BYE 2007.

Amazing pick-up for the Sens though if it goes through, the best-two way player in the NHL will certainly help their defensive woes.

Who would the Sens give up?

[Kovalchuk]

Who would the Sens give up?

Antoine Vermette, Brian Lee and a 2nd round pick

Rumour has it that ATL wants Kelly thrown in as well... STEEP price... but Hossa is sick.

[chyeahBOYY]

I think it's finally official. Sundin isn't waiving his NTC.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230511&hubname=

[KingCanuck]

I think it's finally official. Sundin isn't waiving his NTC.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230511&hubname=

Sucks for Leafs fans. Sundin would have gotten the leafs a ****load of good young players.

[DRob27]

Pens on a 2 game OT losing streak, I'm so pissed :(

New Jersey has the Eastern Conference lead now don't they?

[Fernando Rollins]

Pens on a 2 game OT losing streak, I'm so pissed :(

New Jersey has the Eastern Conference lead now don't they?

They sure do.

[Dan O Mac]

To Tampa: Luongo

To Vancouver: Richards



:D :D :D :D















Just kidding

LOL, maybe they'd take Sanford instead :p


I think it's finally official. Sundin isn't waiving his NTC.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230511&hubname=

I can respect that, he earned the right to have the final word, but I can't understand it. If he truly were all about the Leafs, he'd realize that in order to rebuild this team, we need the assets that he'd generate. So there is some selfishness in his decision, although I do admire his honesty, admitting that in going to another team his heart wouldn't fully be in it. But sometimes you've gotta separate personal from professional. He isn't married, doesn't have kids, suck it up and do what's best for the team, then re-sign here in the summer. That would be the best way to fulfill his obligations to the organization.

That said, I really hope he doesn't get any grief from the fans about this, because I really don't think there's any malice behind his decision, he's just thinking a little too much with his heart.

[BMC1979]

Sucks for Leafs fans. Sundin would have gotten the leafs a ****load of good young players.

Kind of feel bad for Sundin in a way. I think he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. They were talking about it yesterday and they said that if he did waive it, he'd look like a traitor to Leaf fans but if he didn't waive it then he'd be looked at as not trying to help the team.

[BMC1979]

Good game for the Oilers last night. Aftering going down early (27 seconds in to be exact) and eventually being down by two after the first, they pulled it together and won 3-2. Glad to see that, unlike the game before, they were able to settle things down, complete the comeback and actually be able to hold on to it. At this point, I think it's more of a moral victory because they're going to need a miracle to close the gap to make the playoffs. Right now I'm just counting down the games until they're officially eliminated.

As far as the trade deadline tomorrow, I'll be keeping tabs on it all day and praying that Lowe doesn't **** it up again.

[BMC1979]

So much for him not coming back:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3264425


DENVER -- Peter Forsberg is returning to the Avalanche.

Colorado reached an agreement Monday with Forsberg on a contract through the 2007-08 season.

"We're proud to announce to our fans that Peter Forsberg has decided to come back and play with our franchise where he's enjoyed so much success early in his career," Avalanche general manager Francois Giguere said in a statement. "His addition should complement our roster and will bring our team to an even higher competitive level."

The Flyers, Senators, Canucks, Blackhawks and Wild were other teams interested in signing Forsberg.


Forsberg, 34, had until the Feb. 26 trade deadline to sign and be eligible for the playoffs.


"Over the last several months, I have worked extremely hard in order for this to be possible. I am looking forward to putting this jersey on again," Forsberg said in a statement. "I have so many great memories of my playing days in Denver. I'm excited about helping my new teammates and former teammates in the coming weeks, and hopefully I am able to do that in the very near future."

During his nine seasons in Colorado, he won two Stanley Cups (1996, 2001) and won the Hart Trophy as NHL MVP in 2003 when he led the league in scoring with 106 points.

The Avs had a 119-14-19-6 regular-season record in games that Forsberg scored at least one goal.

The seven-time All-Star also helped lead Sweden to Olympic gold medals in Lillehammer in 1994 and Turin in 2006.

Injuries have plagued him in recent years, and he hasn't played more than 60 games in a season since suiting up for 75 games in 2002-03 with the Avalanche.

He is fourth on Colorado's all-time scoring list with 741 points in 580 career games.

[KingCanuck]

Just when you thought the divison could not get any tougher....


Oh well, hopefully Nucks can get Richards.

[canuckle]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230585&hubname=

Dan Boyle signed for 6 years at $6.66Mil/year. For fuks sake....

Pretty sure they're kissing richards goodbye...

[canuckle]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/nhl_experts/post/Stars-reaching-for-Richards-Habs-zero-in-on-Hos;_ylt=Amb3eIwPBA8IiNqFcztDzI57vLYF?urn=nhl,6860 2




The Dallas Stars will acquire Tampa Bay Lightning center Brad Richards in a multi-player trade and Atlanta Thrashers right wing Marian Hossa is heading to the Montreal Canadiens before the NHL trade deadline, an executive within the league said Monday night.

[KingCanuck]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/nhl_experts/post/Stars-reaching-for-Richards-Habs-zero-in-on-Hos;_ylt=Amb3eIwPBA8IiNqFcztDzI57vLYF?urn=nhl,6860 2

Well that ruined my day. :( :( :( :(

I hope we play the Stars first round again.

[canuckle]

Well that ruined my day. :( :( :( :(

I hope we play the Stars first round again.

Jokinen....Jokinen....Jokinen....Jokinen....

At $2Mil/year cheaper than Richards and more physical I like Jok's more.

EDIT: Flyers got prospal for a bag of pucks...
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230584&hubname=

[KingCanuck]

Jokinen....Jokinen....Jokinen....Jokinen....

At $2Mil/year cheaper than Richards and more physical I like Jok's more.

EDIT: Flyers got prospal for a bag of pucks...
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230584&hubname=

Jokinen would cost a lot more...:( :(

[Kovalchuk]

Jokinen....Jokinen....Jokinen....Jokinen....

At $2Mil/year cheaper than Richards and more physical I like Jok's more.

EDIT: Flyers got prospal for a bag of pucks...
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230584&hubname=

LOL... Prospal like goes out of his way to make fun of Feaster and trashes the team to the media. The Lightning really had no choice.

And signing Boyle to a long-term deal after he had like 12 different surgeries on his wrist this year is kind of sketchy...

[harrisjl]

I'm in the middle of a stretch of live games...

Went to the Thrashers game last week 21st
Devils tonight 26th (they've had our number this year)
Rangers on the 28th
Lightning on the 1st

^ :eek: a lot of games in a 10 day period :eek:

Senators on the 16th

Then I'm out of tickets from my package :o Hope we can hold onto the division and make the playoffs....

Go Canes!!!!!

[MacGyverDel]

Well the Sens did well last night. :rolleyes:

The Leafs got them on that one. ;)

[BMC1979]

So who here is at work watching one of the live streams of the trade deadline?

Personally, I've got the TSN one going. Looks like Rollie has finally stepped up and said he wants out of Edmonton. Could be a hard move but hard justifying having him and his $3.9 million/year sitting on the bench.

[harrisjl]

So who here is at work watching one of the live streams of the trade deadline?

Personally, I've got the TSN one going. Looks like Rollie has finally stepped up and said he wants out of Edmonton. Could be a hard move but hard justifying having him and his $3.9 million/year sitting on the bench.

Canes are supposed to make a move today for a center to help out since Brindy's out for the season.... they haven't had much luck finding one :o

[BMC1979]

First "huge" trade of the day

Devils get:

D Bryce Salvador

St Louis gets:

F Cam Janssen



Nothing major yet. TSN seems to be really concentrating on the Hossa story line at the moment.

[BMC1979]

Maple Leafs get:

Florida 5th rd pick

Florida gets:

Wade Belak

[BMC1979]

Oh, another thing I wanted to talk about, not related to the deadline, looks like the Oilers have lost another one for the season. Ethan Moreau is gone after a leg injury (fracture). Damn this has been a tougher season than normal. The list of guys we lost for the season this year:

Raffi Torres
Shawn Horcoff
Sheldon Souray
Ethan Moreau

[TheStack]

Campbell Traded To San Jose. The 2nd best defencemen in the northeast duvision is now traded, good thing for montreal...

[BMC1979]

Campbell Traded To San Jose. The 2nd best defencemen in the northeast duvision is now traded, good thing for montreal...

It's official

SJ gets:

D Brian Campbell
7th rd pick

Buffalo gets;

F Steve Bernier
1st rd pick

[BMC1979]

Next big one:

Dallas gets:

F Brad Richards
G Johan Holmquist

Tampa Bay gets:

G Mike Smith
F Jussi Jokinen
F Jeff Halpern

[TheStack]

Hossa is near Montreal tsn says

[BMC1979]

Unconfirmed Montreal trade...

Montreal gets:

2nd rd pick 2009 (Anaheim)

Washington gets:

G Cristobal Huet

*EDIT - now confirmed

[TheStack]

Unconfirmed Montreal trade...

Montreal gets:

2nd rd pick

Washington gets:

G Cristobal Huet

.................................................. ..................................... I'm pissed.

[BMC1979]

.................................................. ..................................... I'm pissed.

Looks like your Habs are going to be riding Price from here on.

[buresnipes]

Just have to say it's over. Now that the Stars have Richards it's over. The Stars are gonna win the cup.

[TheStack]

Looks like your Habs are going to be riding Price from here on.

yeah...but a 2nd pick is not enough for this kind of player. Pisses me. Gainey better pick up Hossa seriously.

[BMC1979]

Colorado gets:

D Ruslan Salei

Florida gets

F Karlis Skrastins
3rd rd pick

-------------------------------------------------

Carolina gets:

F Tuomo Ruutu

Blackhawks get;

F Andrew Ladd

[BMC1979]

Ottawa gets:

F Martin Lapointe

Chicago get:

6th rd pick

[KingCanuck]

Canucks get: Hossa


Atlanta gets: Bourdon, Scheinder, 1st round






























(hopefully)

[BMC1979]

Canucks get: Hossa


Atlanta gets: Bourdon, Scheinder, 1st round



(hopefully)

Wishful thinking on your part I think.

[BMC1979]

Colorado gets:

D Adam Foote

Columbus gets:

conditional 1st rd pick

[harrisjl]

I'm in the middle of a stretch of live games...

Went to the Thrashers game last week 21st
Devils tonight 26th (they've had our number this year)
Rangers on the 28th
*Lightning on the 1st
*Stars on the 6th

^ :eek: a lot of games in a 10 day period :eek:

Senators on the 16th

Then I'm out of tickets from my package :o Hope we can hold onto the division and make the playoffs....

Go Canes!!!!!

Haha ticket wheelin' and dealin'....

A friend just offered me a great lower level seat for the lightning on the 1st :D *Gonna trade the two tickets I had for a couple of tickets to the Stars on the 6th and squeeze another game in there *does happy dance*

Oh, another thing I wanted to talk about, not related to the deadline, looks like the Oilers have lost another one for the season. Ethan Moreau is gone after a leg injury (fracture). Damn this has been a tougher season than normal. The list of guys we lost for the season this year:

Raffi Torres
Shawn Horcoff
Sheldon Souray
Ethan Moreau

Canes don't even look anything like the team they started the season with LOL The new guys are playing good tho.... Samsonov FTW :D


Carolina gets:

F Tuomo Ruutu

Blackhawks get;

F Andrew Ladd

We were supposed to get a center :o

[BMC1979]

Washington gets:

F Sergei Fedorov

Columbus get:

D Ted Ruth

[Vandamwtc]

Isles re-signed Comrie which is good, guess this means they're gonna be buyers. Can't wait to see who they go after

[BMC1979]

NYI get:

D Rob Davison

San Jose gets:

7th rd pick

-----------------------

Vancouver gets:

F Matt Pettinger

Washington gets:

Matt Cooke

[Baker19]

Next big one:

Dallas gets:

F Brad Richards
G Johan Holmquist

Tampa Bay gets:

G Mike Smith
F Jussi Jokinen
F Jeff Halpern

JUSSI JOKINEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :( Oh well we get Richards... I also like holmquist, hes a decent player too.

[buresnipes]

JUSSI JOKINEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :( Oh well we get Richards... I also like holmquist, hes a decent player too.

ya sad to see jussi and smith go but who cares we got richards and will get the cup.

[Vandamwtc]

NYI get:

D Rob Davison

San Jose gets:

7th rd pick

-----------------------

Vancouver gets:

F Matt Pettinger

Washington gets:

Matt Cooke

I was hoping the Isles would try and get Jason Blake back, damn...i'm not too familiar with Davidson though, hopefully he can keep the Isles patchwork defense strong.

[Carpathia]

i hope the entire lightning ownership/new ownership dies in a plane crash

[harrisjl]

i hope the entire lightning ownership/new ownership dies in a plane crash

I'm going to sea the Canes lightning play on the 1st, I got a lower level seat for 30$ (half price) :D

[Carpathia]

I'm going to sea the Canes lightning play on the 1st, I got a lower level seat for 30$ (half price) :D

they have completley gutted the team. when vinny doesnt re sign no one will go see them play

[BMC1979]

10 more minutes left...wonder if we'll see anything else get through. Have to remember, as long as the league is informed of the potential trade before the deadline, then it's all legal.

[BMC1979]

Pens get:

Hal Gill

Leafs get:

2nd and 5th rd picks

[BMC1979]

Hossa sweepstakes is over:

Pens get:

Marion Hossa

Atlanta gets:

Colby Armstrong
Eric Christensen
Angelo Esposito
possible 1st rd pick

[Kovalchuk]

Hossa sweepstakes is over:

Pens get:

Marion Hossa
and Pascal Dupuis

Atlanta gets:

Colby Armstrong
Eric Christensen
Angelo Esposito
possible 1st rd pick

fixed

[DRob27]

Woooo Hossa Pens

[Kovalchuk]

Woooo Hossa Pens

Yea that is a SERIOUS deal.

Penguins with half-decent goaltending should come out of the East.

However, now there are about 4 juggernauts in the West so the Stanley Cup may be a bit out of reach.

[oshjo75]

Yea that is a SERIOUS deal.

Penguins with half-decent goaltending should come out of the East.

However, now there are about 4 juggernauts in the West so the Stanley Cup may be a bit out of reach.

im pumped dude, i cant wait to go watch a game(i ive in pittsburgh)

[R2 Seafood]

I heard the Leafs traded Tucker to the Flames for a bag of pucks. Can anyone confirm this?

[DRob27]

Yea that is a SERIOUS deal.

Penguins with half-decent goaltending should come out of the East.

However, now there are about 4 juggernauts in the West so the Stanley Cup may be a bit out of reach.

our front two lines are amazing(assuming this is what it will be)

staal-crosby-hossa
malone-malkin-sykora(been doing amazing)

dupuis could be in there possibly


(and yeah the west is now stacked)

[BMC1979]

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6533/trade2uw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3351/trade3gb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2091/trade4px3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[canuckle]

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8499/worfisfrustratedfd6.gif

[Dan O Mac]

Well, I'm happy the Leafs actually got some picks in return, now our scouting staff has to make good use of them.

Wow, the Stars absolutley STOLE Richards. That contract must have really been the key. I wouldn't hand them the cup yet though, Zubov's hurt and has to come back strong, and Richards is really the only guy that's proven in the playoffs. Modano is past his prime and can't be expected to be a PPG guy, Ribeiro's as soft as they come, and Turco has had ONE exceptional playoff round after a bunch of flame-outs. I'm still taking Anaheim. Nonetheless, Dallas, Pittsburgh and Colorado have to come out as the winners of the day. Biggest loser IMO is Montreal. Price is not ready to lead them to the cup, Huet's solid, and they only got a 2nd rounder for him. Hall F'ing Gill got more than that. Why wouldn't they just keep him for insurance even if they intended to ride Price?

[canuckle]

Well, I'm happy the Leafs actually got some picks in return, now our scouting staff has to make good use of them.

Wow, the Stars absolutley STOLE Richards. That contract must have really been the key. I wouldn't hand them the cup yet though, Zubov's hurt and has to come back strong, and Richards is really the only guy that's proven in the playoffs. Modano is past his prime and can't be expected to be a PPG guy, Ribeiro's as soft as they come, and Turco has had ONE exceptional playoff round after a bunch of flame-outs. I'm still taking Anaheim. Nonetheless, Dallas, Pittsburgh and Colorado have to come out as the winners of the day. Biggest loser IMO is Montreal. Price is not ready to lead them to the cup, Huet's solid, and they only got a 2nd rounder for him. Hall F'ing Gill got more than that. Why wouldn't they just keep him for insurance even if they intended to ride Price?

Habs fans are not too happy with Bob right now me thinks.

[Kovalchuk]

Habs fans are not too happy with Bob right now me thinks.

Huet was traded away to make cap-room to sign Hossa to a long-term deal.

NUFF SAID.

LOL LOL LOL

[BMC1979]

The West teams definately came out on top. Basically stole a lot of the best players from the East. Although the Pens won the Hossa sweepstakes, I think they gave up a lot to get him, especially since there's no guarantee that he'll resign in the summer. Habs are by far the big loser on the entire day. The fans can not be happy.

As an Oilers fan, I wasn't expecting much but I was hoping that maybe they'd be able to move Rollie. Oh well, nothing lost, nothing gained I guess.

[TheStack]

Habs fans are not too happy with Bob right now me thinks.

bob is gonna get raped tonight i think

[buresnipes]

Well, I'm happy the Leafs actually got some picks in return, now our scouting staff has to make good use of them.

Wow, the Stars absolutley STOLE Richards. That contract must have really been the key. I wouldn't hand them the cup yet though, Zubov's hurt and has to come back strong, and Richards is really the only guy that's proven in the playoffs. Modano is past his prime and can't be expected to be a PPG guy, Ribeiro's as soft as they come, and Turco has had ONE exceptional playoff round after a bunch of flame-outs. I'm still taking Anaheim. Nonetheless, Dallas, Pittsburgh and Colorado have to come out as the winners of the day. Biggest loser IMO is Montreal. Price is not ready to lead them to the cup, Huet's solid, and they only got a 2nd rounder for him. Hall F'ing Gill got more than that. Why wouldn't they just keep him for insurance even if they intended to ride Price?


we are getting boucher back in the next week or so and Zubov should be ready right as the playoffs begin. We have solid defence even if he doesn't return in time. We now have 2 really solid scoring lines. I think we have a great chance at the cup. Everyone has underestimated the Stars all season even though they are in 2nd in the league (by points). Anaheim will not catch the Stars and neither will the Sharks. The Stars will finish 1st or 2nd in the conference. If Turco plays as good in the playoffs this year as he did last, we will make it deep into the playoffs with Richards adding some much needed scoring. I'm a little sad to see Jussi and SMith go though. They had their roll on the team but I think we can fill them and then some now.

[canuckle]

Huet was traded away to make cap-room to sign Hossa to a long-term deal.

NUFF SAID.

LOL LOL LOL

lulz


Any info on Matt Pettinger? Don't know much about him.

[Kovalchuk]

lulz


Any info on Matt Pettinger? Don't know much about him.

He's a good solid gritty workhorse type player.

Interchangeable with Matt Cooke... not an upgrade or a downgrade.

[canuckle]

So Minny has Boogard, Fedoruk, and now Simon...interesting.

[Vandamwtc]

Isles V Pens on now!!

[Dan O Mac]

we are getting boucher back in the next week or so and Zubov should be ready right as the playoffs begin. We have solid defence even if he doesn't return in time. We now have 2 really solid scoring lines. I think we have a great chance at the cup. Everyone has underestimated the Stars all season even though they are in 2nd in the league (by points). Anaheim will not catch the Stars and neither will the Sharks. The Stars will finish 1st or 2nd in the conference. If Turco plays as good in the playoffs this year as he did last, we will make it deep into the playoffs with Richards adding some much needed scoring. I'm a little sad to see Jussi and SMith go though. They had their roll on the team but I think we can fill them and then some now.

I agree they are definitely top contenders, but handing them the cup was a bit premature. But that was probably just your excitement over the deal shining through. Hell, I'd be happy too if the Leafs got Richards in that type of deal. Should be a great playoff season this year.


He's a good solid gritty workhorse type player.

Interchangeable with Matt Cooke... not an upgrade or a downgrade.

Minus some of Cooke's cheapshot tendencies :p

Just thinking about the Pens. How do they re-sign Hossa? Malkin's due after this year and will command 8-9 mill., Crosby already has that, and Hossa will get at least 7. That has them repeating Tampa's mistake: commmitting too much salary to one position. Not to mention they have Jordan Staal due in a couple of years as well. Methinks Hossa is just a rental, and if so, Waddell got a nice return for him. Especially considering every other GM in the league knew he had to deal him and was in a position of weakness.

[DRob27]

Isles V Pens on now!!

The pens bench is lacking some bodies :O The two guys we called up aren't even there yet LOL

[Vandamwtc]

The pens bench is lacking some bodies :O The two guys we called up aren't even there yet LOL

Ya, i heard that...They also said Davison is in the building... ah there he is on the bench now!

[KingCanuck]

Pens overpaid for a rental player..

Even if hes not a rental player how the hell are you going to re-sign him??


In other news, Nonis forgot to set his alarm clock last night.

[Dan O Mac]

Pens overpaid for a rental player..

Even if hes not a rental player how the hell are you going to re-sign him??


In other news, Nonis forgot to set his alarm clock last night.

Yeah, the Nucks are in trouble without adding offense. Best they can hope for is a repeat of last season. Better get to it in the off-season Nonis! I have a hard time bleieving they couldn't have offered a better package for Richards.

Smith=Backup goalie, at best an average starter.

Jokinen=Second-line forward, not a difference-maker though, except in shootouts.

Halpern=checker on downside of his career.

Something like Schneider, Bourdon, and Cooke would be more attractive to TB IMO.

[Vandamwtc]

Isles V Pens on now!!

Lotta penaltys being called this game..

[KingCanuck]

Yeah, the Nucks are in trouble without adding offense. Best they can hope for is a repeat of last season. Better get to it in the off-season Nonis! I have a hard time bleieving they couldn't have offered a better package for Richards.

Smith=Backup goalie, at best an average starter.

Jokinen=Second-line forward, not a difference-maker though, except in shootouts.

Halpern=checker on downside of his career.

Something like Schneider, Bourdon, and Cooke would be more attractive to TB IMO.

No doubt that Nonis offered him Scheider, Bourdon and a draft pick..

But what Tampa wanted was a goalie who could play NOW or next season not a prospect goalie (they already have two good goalie prospects)...

I think Tampa wanted one of Edler or Bieksa instead of Schnieder and thats probably where Nonis said no.

[buresnipes]

Yeah, the Nucks are in trouble without adding offense. Best they can hope for is a repeat of last season. Better get to it in the off-season Nonis! I have a hard time bleieving they couldn't have offered a better package for Richards.

Smith=Backup goalie, at best an average starter.

Jokinen=Second-line forward, not a difference-maker though, except in shootouts.

Halpern=checker on downside of his career.

Something like Schneider, Bourdon, and Cooke would be more attractive to TB IMO.

Smith=backup goalie, will be a solid starter in the near future, 25 years old, goalies find their niche around 27 years of age

Jokinen=2nd liner, shootout champion, still young(24) and will improve

Halpern=good grinder, good shutdown player, 31 not that old

[DRob27]

Pens overpaid for a rental player..

Even if hes not a rental player how the hell are you going to re-sign him??


In other news, Nonis forgot to set his alarm clock last night.

Regarding Hossa and re-signing
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=484636


I wouldn't really consider it overpaying:
-Two VERY replaceable players(armstrong is good for chemistry but not at hockey)
-One overrated, and degrading young gun(Esposito)
-A probably really high draft pick(25-30)

[KingCanuck]

Regarding Hossa and re-signing
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=484636


I wouldn't really consider it overpaying:
-Two VERY replaceable players(armstrong is good for chemistry but not at hockey)
-One overrated, and degrading young gun(Esposito)
-A probably really high draft pick(25-30)

You are forgetting they could have given all that up just for Hossa and 2 months of his services.

Last year before the deadline:
Guerin went to the Sharks
Smyth went to the Isles
Forsberg went to the Preds
Tkuchuck went to the Thrashers

and what happened at the start of this season? They were all with different teams.


Even if they do re-sign them it could be another Tampa Bay situtation..

[Dan O Mac]

No doubt that Nonis offered him Scheider, Bourdon and a draft pick..

But what Tampa wanted was a goalie who could play NOW or next season not a prospect goalie (they already have two good goalie prospects)...

I think Tampa wanted one of Edler or Bieksa instead of Schnieder and thats probably where Nonis said no.

As well he should have, especially on Kesler. He's the type of guy you need to win in the playoffs. I'm just surprised they didn't add ANY scoring.


Smith=backup goalie, will be a solid starter in the near future, 25 years old, goalies find their niche around 27 years of age

Jokinen=2nd liner, shootout champion, still young(24) and will improve

Halpern=good grinder, good shutdown player, 31 not that old

Smith, I saw him a lot in junior and in the minors, I just don't think he has an upside much more than an average starter. Defintely not top 10. I guess we differ there.

Jokinen, we pretty much agree.

Halpern, I just remember him being an elite checker who provided more offence in Washington. With the type of game he plays, I think he's really on the down-swing. This is all MO of course.


Regarding Hossa and re-signing
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=484636


I wouldn't really consider it overpaying:
-Two VERY replaceable players(armstrong is good for chemistry but not at hockey)
-One overrated, and degrading young gun(Esposito)
-A probably really high draft pick(25-30)


hfboards is a good site with some solid info as long as you can differentiate the homers and wannabe scouts with the actual knowledgeable posters. Do ou post there?

[DRob27]

Pens beat the Isles 4-2, but the devils lost in OT so we're still 1 point behind the conference lead.

[Kovalchuk]

TROUBLE IN OTTAWA!!

Paddock should be gone by tomorrow morning... goaltending is a mess... the team is a disaster.

[KingCanuck]

TROUBLE IN OTTAWA!!

Paddock should be gone by tomorrow morning... goaltending is a mess... the team is a disaster.

The thing is so many teams have unproven goaltenders in the east so who comes out of the east really depends on which unproven goaltender plays well and which unproven goaltender cracks under the pressure.

[canuckle]

The thing is so many teams have unproven goaltenders in the east so who comes out of the east really depends on which unproven goaltender plays well and which unproven goaltender cracks under the pressure.

I've been saying it all season, even in this thread! Gerber and Emery aren't #1 goalies. Emery road the coat tails of a good team in the playoffs last year.

[KingCanuck]

I've been saying it all season, even in this thread! Gerber and Emery aren't #1 goalies. Emery road the coat tails of a good team in the playoffs last year.

They still got a chance to go deep cause the only proven goaltenders going to the East playoffs off the top of my head are Brodeur, Lundquist and Miller.

[Kovalchuk]

They still got a chance to go deep cause the only proven goaltenders going to the East playoffs off the top of my head are Brodeur, Lundquist and Miller.

Cam Ward too.

[Fernando Rollins]

They still got a chance to go deep cause the only proven goaltenders going to the East playoffs off the top of my head are Brodeur, Lundquist and Miller.
Damn right.

[jsheppard1]

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[JackedAndSwole]

ill say im happy that cooke is gone and this new guy is a better player then cooke before and pyatt too. hopefully he can find redemption here. which i believe its very possible since he was/is a big canucks fan. when he used to play for victoria.

i believe he can possibly be a 50 pt scorer. within after next year yrs.

nonis is a genius.

thank god he didnt overpay anybody.

[ricflaironpcp]

Sens need somebody to step up in net. A lack of solid goal tending creates a rippling effect which hurts Ottawa's play. Ottawa is a scoring team, but without faith in their net minders they cannot take risks offensively. The forwards have to be more defensive minded. This means they score less, thus they lose.

Gerber's run at the start of the season is a perfect example to prove this point. Because he was keeping it down to 2-3 goals a game the Sens could afford to take risks.

Hopefully somebody steps up and proves they want the starting job more so that the Sens can have a stable playoff run. The Sens have their work cut out for them with Pittsburgh, Montreal, and New Jersey all looking fairly strong. Considering last years birth in the finals, anything other than a Stanley Cup will be seen as a disappointment by not only the media but also the fans.

[lilian45]

the penguins are going to win a stanley cup in the next couple years.
malkin and crosby are the 2 best players in the whole nhl already and there on the same team,now they also have hossa,not to mention staal etc.

[harrisjl]

Cam Ward too.

Thank you :D


Brodeur

Best in conference IMO

[ricflaironpcp]

the penguins are going to win a stanley cup in the next couple years.
malkin and crosby are the 2 best players in the whole nhl already and there on the same team,now they also have hossa,not to mention staal etc.

Penguins are a perfect example of how to rebuild a team with young players. Of course they got lucky and won the draft lottery for Crosby, but otherwise they still have a great young team.

[MacGyverDel]

TROUBLE IN OTTAWA!!

Paddock should be gone by tomorrow morning... goaltending is a mess... the team is a disaster.

Too fudging much. :rolleyes: Pathetic!

[harrisjl]

Ruutu was in Raleigh and played against the Devils last night :eek: (we just traded for him yesterday afternoon) LOL I figured he would play the next game :D

[Dan O Mac]

Ruutu was in Raleigh and played against the Devils last night :eek: (we just traded for him yesterday afternoon) LOL I figured he would play the next game :D

Ruutu's had tough luck with injuries, but he was a beast as a rookie. Still some upside there.

Nice article from TSN re: trade deadline winners and losers:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230659&hubname=nhl

[oshjo75]

Pens overpaid for a rental player..

Even if hes not a rental player how the hell are you going to re-sign him??


In other news, Nonis forgot to set his alarm clock last night.

We are going to re sign him because we have been selling out every game, the fans love the pens, and we are getting a new arena within the next few years...that will bring more people...therefore more money

[BMC1979]

We are going to re sign him because we have been selling out every game, the fans love the pens, and we are getting a new arena within the next few years...that will bring more people...therefore more money

Doesn't matter how much money the team is going to make, they need to worry about cap space. If they do re-sign Hossa (and I don't think they will) they'll have to sacrafice even more of there talent because they won't have the money to keep them all.

[DRob27]

Doesn't matter how much money the team is going to make, they need to worry about cap space. If they do re-sign Hossa (and I don't think they will) they'll have to sacrafice even more of there talent because they won't have the money to keep them all.

We're pretty far under the cap, but we have to raise Malkin's salary also. We'll see what happens. Even if we don't keep him, we have room to bring in some new players that were better than Armstrong and Christensen anyways.

I'm more concerned about a cup this year if Conklin or Fleury steps it up come playoff time.

[mumble7]

Pens can't afford Hossa, he won't sign for less then 6.5 per year, and they still have to sign Malkin, Fleury and Staal to deals

They will regret that trade if they don't make a cup run this year

[DRob27]

Pens can't afford Hossa, he won't sign for less then 6.5 per year, and they still have to sign Malkin, Fleury and Staal to deals

They will regret that trade if they don't make a cup run this year

I looked and they're about 10.8 million under the cap. With a few guys gone it could be done.

[MacGyverDel]

So much for paddock. :rolleyes:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230714&hubname=

Won't misc him. :D

[Dan O Mac]

I heard ownership stepped in and forced Shero to make the deal; he didn't want to give up the assets. Unless Malkin or Hossa take a discount, which I strongly doubt, you can only re-sign one if you don't want to completely tie your hands in the future. Hossa, Crosby and Malkin will all command close to max max (Crosby already signed), Whitney and Gonchar making a fair amount. Then you have a TB situation, no money left for goaltending, bottom 4 D or bottom six forwards. And throw Staal into the mix, if he bounces back, he'll need to get paid too.

TSN (most reliable insider) claims Lemieux and co. believe the east is for the taking this year and want to make a run at it, hoping Conklin or Fleury can carry the ball, then assess cap issues in the summer.

Just read that Tallon (Chicago's GM) says he had a deal with TB, but Richards used his limited no-trade to nix it. Imagine Richards with Toews and Kane :eek:

[canuckle]

So T4M does this mean we don't have to hear the stupid "you see" in the national anthem singing anymore? :D

Anybody else going to check out the pens bruins game on tsn tomorrow?

[Kovalchuk]

So T4M does this mean we don't have to hear the stupid "you see" in the national anthem singing anymore? :D

Anybody else going to check out the pens bruins game on tsn tomorrow?

Im going to the Pens/Sens game Saturday afternoon... should be a DANDY!!

And by DANDY I mean a 6-0 Pitt win.

[MacGyverDel]

Im going to the Pens/Sens game Saturday afternoon... should be a DANDY!!

And by DANDY I mean a 6-0 Pitt win.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb32/Del-189/steekttonguit.gif I hope it's the other way myself. :D

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z291/macgyverdel/montypython.gif

[Dan O Mac]

Man. I'm sick of the Leafs doing this every year; going on a late-season run to just fall short of the playoffs or just sneak in. We need to stay in the lottery. Dammit, can't this team even succeed at tanking?

Anyway, with that off my chest, rep bet parlay for this week:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7573621

[canuckle]

Man. I'm sick of the Leafs doing this every year; going on a late-season run to just fall short of the playoffs or just sneak in. We need to stay in the lottery. Dammit, can't this team even succeed at tanking?

Anyway, with that off my chest, rep bet parlay for this week:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7573621

Going all east games this week eh!? Man I need to get 300 reps so i can bet :(

Sens, NJ, Tor

[Vandamwtc]

Isles over Atlanta in OT..Woot Woot!

[Kovalchuk]

Thrash lose again... sweeet :(

Hoss hurt tonight?!?!?! WTF... hopefully it aint bad!

[KingCanuck]

Damn :eek: Richards was beasting out there, 5 assists!

[jsheppard1]

Thrash lose again... sweeet :(

Hoss hurt tonight?!?!?! WTF... hopefully it aint bad!

it's all good. as much as it pains me to say this, i kind of hope the Thrash finish in the basement so we can snag a good pick this year. judging on Waddell's drafting skills, the only times we get good 1st round picks are if they are 1st or 2nd overall (Kovy, Heatley, Lehtonen). even then he doesn't always get it right (remember picking Patrick Stefan 1st overall in 99, ahead of the Sedin's and Martin Havlat?) i just want the team to play well and show signs of improvement. hopefully they'll let the young guys get lots of ice-time for the rest of the year.

Hoss should be okay in a week or so.

[canuckle]

LMAO Burrows got fined for that little scum before the game on saturday against the wings. Burrows and Downey were at the red line and Burrows says "how's the potato farm going?" and then Downey hit Burr in the chest. The NHL said Burrows got the fine for the retaliatory spear but it was actually Ritchie who speared Downey.

Stupid potato farmers.

EDIT: Link for added hilarity..
http://downeyfarms.ca

EDIT2: Downey got fined as well.
http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story.html?id=61a652f9-1c8f-44fe-8168-22673b3a9e65

EDIT3:
BEST QUOTE

"He wanted to get his team going. He said he was going to take care of me. I was ready for him. I asked him how his potato farm was doing. He probably likes the french fries the most because he's a little chubby."

-- Alex Burrows talking about his run-in with Red Wings tough guy Aaron Downey during the pre-game warmup. Downey grew up on a potato farm.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/sports/story.html?id=0246d3dd-a080-484c-a9e2-7e7dacb2e8d8

lulz

[LVI]

Oil win again at home. Damn, everybody in the hockey world knows that the Oil won't make into the playoffs this year EXCEPT for the Oil. Glad to see they are still putting up a fight.

[Dan O Mac]

Thrash lose again... sweeet :(

Hoss hurt tonight?!?!?! WTF... hopefully it aint bad!

Sprained MCL, out a few weeks. Will he even play 10 games for the Pens? Could be the worst rental ever if they get knocked out of the playoffs early :D

Anyone see Biron hit Spezza for celebrating his goal? Biron's such a punk, he's always yapping yet he's like a buck fitty soaking wet. And Spezza wasn't even facing him, and only had his arms raised. It's not like he was giving him a Ric Flair-like WOOOO! in his face.

[mylesevans]

Maybe you've been through this already, but wtf did the Hab's trade Huet for a 2nd rounder. That was a bad call, his market value was higher and if it was to clear cap space for Hossa then they should have a gauranteed deal in place.

Also does anyone in Colorado have a calender that isn't for the year 2000?

[Kovalchuk]

Sprained MCL, out a few weeks. Will he even play 10 games for the Pens? Could be the worst rental ever if they get knocked out of the playoffs early :D

Anyone see Biron hit Spezza for celebrating his goal? Biron's such a punk, he's always yapping yet he's like a buck fitty soaking wet. And Spezza wasn't even facing him, and only had his arms raised. It's not like he was giving him a Ric Flair-like WOOOO! in his face.

Spezza is a big pussy.

Sens lose again :)

[BMC1979]

Oil win again at home. Damn, everybody in the hockey world knows that the Oil won't make into the playoffs this year EXCEPT for the Oil. Glad to see they are still putting up a fight.

Agreed. Looks like, even with all that's happened this year (not a lot of experience, injuries, etc), they are going to play right to the bitter end. Would be nice if they could be the spoilers of a team or two trying to make it in at the end.

[LVI]

Agreed. Looks like, even with all that's happened this year (not a lot of experience, injuries, etc), they are going to play right to the bitter end. Would be nice if they could be the spoilers of a team or two trying to make it in at the end.

Especially a spoiler for the Flamers.

[buresnipes]

i guess richards was a good acquisition. he only got 5 assists in his first game.

[Dan O Mac]

i guess richards was a good acquisition. he only got 5 assists in his first game.

That was crazy, but not unexpected. That's why I thought Dallas really fleeced TB in the trade, because he's capable of being a top 10 player in the league when not placed with scrubs. Must have been strictly a money issue for TB to not get value for him, either that or Feaster is an idiot, which is possible considering he's the one that traded the 4th overall pick for Ruslan Fedotenko a couple years back.

Ribeiro's still gotta prove himself in the playoffs, but if he does, and Turco shows up again, their gonna be a real scary team to face in the playoffs. Probably Dallas-Anaheim conference final.

[Dan O Mac]

Sorry for the double post, but I just found this on hfboards:

Reported on the local sports station TEAM1040:

For Olli Jokinen
- Florida wanted both Daniel Sedin and Henrik Sedin

For Brad Richards
- Nonis offered Luc Bourdon, Cory Schnieder and a first
- Feaster/Tampa countered asking for Mason Raymond, Alex Edler, Ryan Kesler, 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

No wonder Vancouver didn't make a significant deal. They still should have had something on the side for a 2nd tier top-sixer in the works though in case those two did fall through, because they're going nowhere in the playoffs with the offense they have now.

[BMC1979]

Especially a spoiler for the Flamers.

That would make the entire season worth it.

[TheStack]

lol at hossa being injured, imagine if he only plays a few games with the pens...

[TheStack]

Canadiens are now first in the northeast division and will be playing for 1st in the east tomorrow against new-jersey!

Montreal ftw!!

[oline73]

lol at hossa being injured, imagine if he only plays a few games with the pens...

it would actually be kind of funny if he only played that one game for Pittsburgh this year

[TheStack]

it would actually be kind of funny if he only played that one game for Pittsburgh this year

I would adsolutely love it, they are in contention for the 1st place in the east and the more of their players that are injured, the better it is.

[Dan O Mac]

Update on Hossa, he's only expected out one week now. Must be a pretty mild MCL sprain; wouldn't surorise me if they're being a bit optimisitic and he ends up out a little longer.

[Vandamwtc]

Man Devils TANKED against the Caps last night..WTF was that about?

The Isles got strung up by Phili this afternoon too..Not looking good for hockey fans on the island... :(

[harrisjl]

Go Canes :D

[Vandamwtc]

Well i'm off to go watch the Isles VS The Panthers, i'll talk to you guys later!

[oline73]

hey i have a question, theres a very good chance the whole Atlantic division can make the playoffs, has this ever happened before?


1 Montr?al Canadiens* 66 36 21 9 81
2 New Jersey Devils* 66 37 23 6 80
3 Carolina Hurricanes* 68 34 29 5 73
4 Ottawa Senators 66 37 23 6 80
5 Pittsburgh Penguins 66 36 23 7 79
6 Boston Bruins 64 35 23 6 76
7 New York Rangers 65 33 24 8 74
8 Philadelphia Flyers 65 33 25 7 73
9 Buffalo Sabres 65 31 25 9 71
10 New York Islanders 66 31 28 7 69
11 Washington Capitals 66 30 28 8 68
12 Toronto Maple Leafs 67 29 28 10 68
13 Atlanta Thrashers 66 29 31 6 64
14 Florida Panthers 67 28 31 8 64
15 Tampa Bay Lightning 65 26 32 7 59

[TheStack]

hey i have a question, theres a very good chance the whole Atlantic division can make the playoffs, has this ever happened before?


1 Montr?al Canadiens* 66 36 21 9 81
2 New Jersey Devils* 66 37 23 6 80
3 Carolina Hurricanes* 68 34 29 5 73
4 Ottawa Senators 66 37 23 6 80
5 Pittsburgh Penguins 66 36 23 7 79
6 Boston Bruins 64 35 23 6 76
7 New York Rangers 65 33 24 8 74
8 Philadelphia Flyers 65 33 25 7 73
9 Buffalo Sabres 65 31 25 9 71
10 New York Islanders 66 31 28 7 69
11 Washington Capitals 66 30 28 8 68
12 Toronto Maple Leafs 67 29 28 10 68
13 Atlanta Thrashers 66 29 31 6 64
14 Florida Panthers 67 28 31 8 64
15 Tampa Bay Lightning 65 26 32 7 59


Boston would have to be out and i don't think its gonna happen. But this is a great division thats for sure.

[KingCanuck]

Boston would have to be out and i don't think its gonna happen. But this is a great division thats for sure.

North West is better.......

If playoffs started today... Minn/Van/Cal/Col would all be in it!

[oline73]

Boston would have to be out and i don't think its gonna happen. But this is a great division thats for sure.

being from Massachusetts, it wouldnt surprise me if the bruins choked.. after all i was surprised when they didnt make a trade, normally the management tries doing all they can to avoid the playoffs (people are still upset about thorton)

[oline73]

North West is better.......

If playoffs started today... Minn/Van/Cal/Col would all be in it!

ok, northwest is better why? becuase both the northwest and atlantic have 4 teams in the playoffs as of today.. atlantic has a 2 5 7 8 seed and northwest has the 3 6 7 8 seeds, the northwest is closer with the points in all but that doesnt make it better

[TheStack]

ok, northwest is better why? becuase both the northwest and atlantic have 4 teams in the playoffs as of today.. atlantic has a 2 5 7 8 seed and northwest has the 3 6 7 8 seeds, the northwest is closer with the points in all but that doesnt make it better

yes, and I think that there are no teams in this division that can win the cup.