The OFFICIAL NHL 2007/2008 SEASON THREAD!

[Rexy]

a few years ago, everyone in pittsburgh flipped when gonchar got paid 5m. now the guy is a bargain. id take him over campbell and redden, not considering their salaries.


apparently orpik and hossa have made their decisions, we will find out soon enough. doesnt sound good for pens fans. :(

thats because the cap was 39m. Thats the problem with the cap going up 7 mil a year, is that Gonchar getting 5m 4 years ago was a huge overpayment, and now when he is UFA he is likely to get 9m!

people are comparing Campbell's deal to what a defensemen of his stature signed to years ago, instead they should look at the market value. Pronger/Neidermayer would be making much more had they been UFA's yesterday.

[Madevilz]

.6mil more then Redden. Doesn't seem like that much of an overpayment

Especially after Sundin signs for 10mil

btw. Its only 1.5 more then Andrei Markov

Markov might not be as flashy as Campbell offensively, but he's a much more complete dman. His salary of 5m is just right. Campbell is awful in his own zone, he should have the same kinda of contract than Markov imo.

[Rexy]

Markov might not be as flashy as Campbell offensively, but he's a much more complete dman. His salary of 5m is just right. Campbell is awful in his own zone, he should have the same kinda of contract than Markov imo.

Markov is solid, but do you defend Hamerlik getting 5.5?

and Campbell isn't as bad in his zone as people are saying now...Hab fans wanna talk overpayment, lets all laugh at the Bruins for singing your garbage to 4mil a year

[thegenerel]

penguin fans everywhere just collective sh*t themselves.

hossa to det. 1 yr - 7.4 million....

1) hossa wanted years...took a 1 year deal.
2) took a lot less for 1 year also

[winthorpe]

penguin fans everywhere just collective sh*t themselves.

hossa to det. 1 yr - 7.4 million....

1) hossa wanted years...took a 1 year deal.
2) took a lot less for 1 year also
hahahahahaha

[KingCanuck]

Canucks got 20 million dollars of cap room yet didnt sign any big name...

Nonis > Gillis

[DRob27]

Who's going to beat detroit now? I really hope shero does something soon...Godard isn't exactly what I was thinking to improve the team.

[winthorpe]

Did the Wings really pay Hossa 7.4 million for one friggin' year? did I read that correctly on here? I cannot find another source with money numbers though. They deserve to lose now. I love the Wings, but damn. Way, way too much.

[KingCanuck]

Did the Wings really pay Hossa 7.4 million for one friggin' year? did I read that correctly on here? I cannot find another source with money numbers though. They deserve to lose now. I love the Wings, but damn. Way, way too much.

Thats a bargain for what the market was for him.

[Madevilz]

Markov is solid, but do you defend Hamerlik getting 5.5?

and Campbell isn't as bad in his zone as people are saying now...Hab fans wanna talk overpayment, lets all laugh at the Bruins for singing your garbage to 4mil a year

yup lulz Ryder for 4 mil made me lol'ed.

Finger's and Commodore's contract too.

[winthorpe]

Thats a bargain for what the market was for him.
Indeed, but the market is beyond ridiculous then.

[DRob27]

yup lulz Ryder for 4 mil made me lol'ed.

Finger's and Commodore's contract too.

there were a lot of ridiculous contracts this year

[TheManofSteel]

I heard Avery to Dallas ... anyone else hear this ?

[FormulaLT1poweR]

I heard Avery to Dallas ... anyone else hear this ?

Yep, seen it on ESPN.com

[Rexy]

yup lulz Ryder for 4 mil made me lol'ed.

Finger's and Commodore's contract too.

those contracts make Campbell look like a steal...especially since he turned down 8.5 from Atlanta.

[BMC1979]

I heard Avery to Dallas ... anyone else hear this ?

Yep. 4 years worth $15.5 million/year. Personally, think they overpaid a bit.

[TheManofSteel]

Yep. 4 years worth $15.5 million/year. Personally, think they overpaid a bit.

As a Devils fan, I have to admit he is the best at what he does...
The Rangers record was significantly better when he played.

I wonder how does he feel about leaving NY after his vogue internship.....

[bignpisst]

Did the Wings really pay Hossa 7.4 million for one friggin' year? did I read that correctly on here? I cannot find another source with money numbers though. They deserve to lose now. I love the Wings, but damn. Way, way too much.

Thats what I have read so far

Go Wings!! :D

[DRob27]

I'm starting to worry a bit about the pens lol. All of our grit and toughness has left almost. Our team is going to be sponsered by charmin for how soft we are. Godard plays like 2 minutes a game so he will barely make a difference. Lets see some signings.

P.S. The jersey in my avatar is ruutu. He's my boy and he will be missed greatly.(signed with ottawa: 3 years 3.9 mil)


edit: Pens sign Brooks Orpik 6 years 3.75mil/year. I like the deal. Our best hitter by far.

[Rexy]

I'm starting to worry a bit about the pens lol. All of our grit and toughness has left almost. Our team is going to be sponsered by charmin for how soft we are. Godard plays like 2 minutes a game so he will barely make a difference. Lets see some signings.

P.S. The jersey in my avatar is ruutu. He's my boy and he will be missed greatly.(signed with ottawa: 3 years 3.9 mil)


edit: Pens sign Brooks Orpik 6 years 3.75mil/year. I like the deal. Our best hitter by far.

haha I feel your pain, I have a #15 Tuomo Ruutu jersey, and was heart broken when he was traded at the deadline

[Haywood Jablome]

Rumour is Nucks offered Sundin 20 million 2 years...


WTF is Gillis thinking?

10 mil per year for Sundin?!?
what a joke

[LVI]

I was pretty happy when I saw this deal. Addresses issues for both teams. Good to finally see the Oilers land someone who has proven he can put the puck in the net. Plus you replace some of that veteran leadership they traded away with Stoll and Smith last year.

The Torres for Brule trade was a decent one too. Torres hasn't stepped up like he needed too and in return the Oilers got a decent young player who's a hometown boy and will hopefully take that step forward in his career.

Little worried about the Visnovsky deal now. With him saying he was disappointed about being traded and then trying to backpeddle, sounds like it could be the same old story for the Oilers and their recent string of FA siginings. In other words, it could be a very short relationship.

Just read too that the Oilers threw a big contract offer at Hossa. Pretty undecided about this one. On one hand, when he's healthy he's a hell of a player on the other hand the catch is he has to be healthy which I'm worried he won't be able to do.



Visnovsky clarified his comments (I'll paraphrase): he was disappointed that Lombardi didn't call him to tell him about the trade before K-Lo did; he was disappointed with the way it went down. But he said he's happy to be coming to a country where hockey is #1, like in Slovakia, and as long as he has his family with him he'll be fine.

So I think he was just a little shocked as he's never been dealt before and had recently signed a new deal.

I like the Torres for Brule deal for you guys. From what I'd heard, Torres was doing a little too much partying (now he's going to Hollywood, haha), and really needed a change. With Brule, you get a guy that was often mentioned as 2nd best in his draft year behind Crosby but the BJ's really hurt his development by rushing him to the NHL. He's got a high upside, and even if he doesn't reach that, should at least replace what you lost in Torres, as he plays very physical despite his size.

I just back from the Lake, and WTF. Both Torres and Stoll. What a joke. They will both have big careers now, and Nothing like giving into pressure from the city on Torres. I am sick of trading away talent (inconsistant or not) for prospects. What exactly has Brule done in the NHL? FFS! Blah blah blah potential blah blah blah 2nd best in draft blah blah. All we ever fu king do is trade away talent.

Stoll to L.A., good trade but not when we also lose Torres. But a great defencemen. Saw prime potential in Stoll before his concussion, and hopefully this doesnt come back to haunt us. As for Greene, i never really liked him too much anyways. Made a lot of bone head plays on the d line.

Pitkanen for Cole, Good trade since we also got Visnovsky earlier.

Bottom line is players find it difficult under MacT's coaching style and he rewards players for there defensive performances. Eg is reasoner on the 2nd tier PPW. Torres obviously wasnt in MacT's plans so we got rid of him. The city of Edmonton for years has had to put up with this ****. This time it better work out, or else I swear to god I'll chear for the Canucks full time.



Actually j/k, but seriously.

end rant/

[KingCanuck]

I just back from the Lake, and WTF. Both Torres and Stoll. What a joke. They will both have big careers now, and Nothing like giving into pressure from the city on Torres. I am sick of trading away talent (inconsistant or not) for prospects. What exactly has Brule done in the NHL? FFS! Blah blah blah potential blah blah blah 2nd best in draft blah blah. All we ever fu king do is trade away talent.

Stoll to L.A., good trade but not when we also lose Torres. But a great defencemen. Saw prime potential in Stoll before his concussion, and hopefully this doesnt come back to haunt us. As for Greene, i never really liked him too much anyways. Made a lot of bone head plays on the d line.

Pitkanen for Cole, Good trade since we also got Visnovsky earlier.

Bottom line is players find it difficult under MacT's coaching style and he rewards players for there defensive performances. Eg is reasoner on the 2nd tier PPW. Torres obviously wasnt in MacT's plans so we got rid of him. The city of Edmonton for years has had to put up with this ****. This time it better work out, or else I swear to god I'll chear for the Canucks full time.



Actually j/k, but seriously.

end rant/

At least your gm is making relevant moves. :(

[oshjo75]

I'm starting to worry a bit about the pens lol. All of our grit and toughness has left almost. Our team is going to be sponsered by charmin for how soft we are. Godard plays like 2 minutes a game so he will barely make a difference. Lets see some signings.

P.S. The jersey in my avatar is ruutu. He's my boy and he will be missed greatly.(signed with ottawa: 3 years 3.9 mil)


edit: Pens sign Brooks Orpik 6 years 3.75mil/year. I like the deal. Our best hitter by far.

im a pens fan too...i hope shero gets his ass moving soon

[buresnipes]

glad the stars picked upAvery. Him and Ott will be pissing a lot of people off next season and i will be loving every minute of it.

[johnnyD7]

Did the Wings really pay Hossa 7.4 million for one friggin' year? did I read that correctly on here? I cannot find another source with money numbers though. They deserve to lose now. I love the Wings, but damn. Way, way too much.


YEa but we had plenty of cap room, and we can't sign him to longer than a year because we are going to end up paying zetterberg, It was a great move IMO, much better than the bertuzzi experiment. I love the direction this team is on right now.

[bignpisst]

glad the stars picked upAvery. Him and Ott will be pissing a lot of people off next season and i will be loving every minute of it.

they might be pissing you off :D

[TheStack]

Did the Wings really pay Hossa 7.4 million for one friggin' year? did I read that correctly on here? I cannot find another source with money numbers though. They deserve to lose now. I love the Wings, but damn. Way, way too much.

It's called free market

No player can be overpriced because the price is based on market value.

[Madevilz]

edit: Pens sign Brooks Orpik 6 years 3.75mil/year. I like the deal. Our best hitter by far.

that makes Finger's signing even more LOLFUL... poor leafs fans :D

[Kovalchuk]

Hossa is the best two-way player in the NHL...

Zetterberg is also the best two-way player in the NHL...

Detroit FTW. Huge pick-up and a steal at $7.45M.

[TheManofSteel]

Huselius Signs w/ Columbus (http://bluejackets.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=367674)

[DRob27]

I'm really hoping the pens get Naslund and somebody else decent for our front 6...Word on the street is they've worked out a 5-6 year extension with fleury which is good news.

[Mr. Manlet]

I'm really hoping the pens get Naslund and somebody else decent for our front 6...Word on the street is they've worked out a 5-6 year extension with fleury which is good news.

naslund gonna leave the cunucks??!?!

and damn redwings..added hossa..so much for competition in the western confrence

and once again..coyotes dont sign any big names

Tod Fedoruk and Kurt Sauer only "big" signings thus far

[KingCanuck]

naslund gonna leave the cunucks??!?!

and damn redwings..added hossa..so much for competition in the western confrence

and once again..coyotes dont sign any big names

Tod Fedoruk and Kurt Sauer only "big" signings thus far

Coyotes traded for Ollie and you guys got Kyle Turris coming to your team next year, hes a stud (also from my city, went to the highschool few blocks from mine)

[Mr. Manlet]

Coyotes traded for Ollie and you guys got Kyle Turris coming to your team next year, hes a stud (also from my city, went to the highschool few blocks from mine)

lost ballard and boynton

both great defensemen, kyle is def a great player, saw him in a few games

[Rexy]

naslund gonna leave the cunucks??!?!

and damn redwings..added hossa..so much for competition in the western confrence

and once again..coyotes dont sign any big names

Tod Fedoruk and Kurt Sauer only "big" signings thus far

watch out for the Hawks

[Madevilz]

lost ballard and boynton

both great defensemen, kyle is def a great player, saw him in a few games

Yotes top6 is gonna be good this year

[Dan O Mac]

Hossa is the best two-way player in the NHL...

Zetterberg is also the best two-way player in the NHL...

Detroit FTW. Huge pick-up and a steal at $7.45M.

Don't forget Datsyuk, Selke winner!

I've gotta applaud Hossa. It's crazy the salaries that are being handed out, and I don't blame the players for taking what they're offered, but Marian left a lot of money on the table that may not be there next year depending on performance and injury. The guy wants to win, and that's awesome.

Detroit told him they refuse to pay anyone more than Lidstrom, and Hossa said that's fine I'll take the 7.45. I'd be a little pissed if I were a Pens fan though, haha.


naslund gonna leave the cunucks??!?!

and damn redwings..added hossa..so much for competition in the western confrence

and once again..coyotes dont sign any big names

Tod Fedoruk and Kurt Sauer only "big" signings thus far

I'd trade rosters with your team any day, especially being a Leafs fan. The best young group of forwards in the NHL even after losing Wheeler. Defence will be fine too if guys like Yandle develop as expected, plus you've got Bryzgalov and Montoya in net. Look out for the Yotes in a few years.

[BMC1979]

Don't forget Datsyuk, Selke winner!

I've gotta applaud Hossa. It's crazy the salaries that are being handed out, and I don't blame the players for taking what they're offered, but Marian left a lot of money on the table that may not be there next year depending on performance and injury. The guy wants to win, and that's awesome.

Detroit told him they refuse to pay anyone more than Lidstrom, and Hossa said that's fine I'll take the 7.45. I'd be a little pissed if I were a Pens fan though, haha.




This is very true. They were talking about this deal on Sportsnet this morning (****ing TSN was showing Wimbledon so I couldn't watch Sportscentre) and they said that he turned down a 9 year $81 million dollar deal from the Oilers. They had a voice clip of Hossa talking about it and an interview with Lowe afterwards. Lowe tried hard to hide it but I got the feeling he was a little bitter at the rejection. Obviously Hossa's mind is set on winning a cup and a good place to be is Detroit.

[Rexy]

Don't forget Datsyuk, Selke winner!
I'd trade rosters with your team any day, especially being a Leafs fan. The best young group of forwards in the NHL even after losing Wheeler. Defence will be fine too if guys like Yandle develop as expected, plus you've got Bryzgalov and Montoya in net. Look out for the Yotes in a few years.

I would argue that the Hawks have a far better youth then the Yotes

[EDC]

I hope Sundin waits so long that no team has cap room left to sign him.

I'm no Leafs fan but refusing a trade at the deadline then opting for free agency is a slap in the face. Now we have to sit through weeks of drama with sports shows reporting every minute detail.

[TheStack]

pens just signed satan and fedotenko...

satan was a good player 3-5 years ago but he can't replace hossa.

[DRob27]

pens just signed satan and fedotenko...

satan was a good player 3-5 years ago but he can't replace hossa.

Not too happy about it, but I don't hate it. Satan on crosby's wing could put up some real good points. Fedotenko could do decent with Malkin as well.

[buresnipes]

they might be pissing you off :D

not a chance i like them both. Avery better keep playing the way he has the last 2 seasons.

[TheStack]

One of the best goon in the nhl is back home. Welcome Georges Laraque!!!

[DRob27]

One of the best goon in the nhl is back home. Welcome Georges Laraque!!!

Eh, best fighter, not a goon at all though. He tries too hard to actually play hockey and he won't fight anybody that isn't a heavyweight. Good dude though, sad to see him go.

[TheStack]

Eh, best fighter, not a goon at all though. He tries too hard to actually play hockey and he won't fight anybody that isn't a heavyweight. Good dude though, sad to see him go.

I'm very happy to have a real heavyweight in Montreal. The last good one was Brashear 10 years ago. Better than Kostopoulos that's for sure...

[BMC1979]

Naslund is off to the Rangers for 2 years and $8 million total

[Mr. Manlet]

Naslund is off to the Rangers for 2 years and $8 million total

yep...fine with me lmao

naslund destroyed the coyotes for as long as i can remember

fuk all this hockey talk is making me so excited..Peter Mueller gonna wreck shop!

[Rexy]

I've been looking forward to the start of the season since Draft Day when we took Kyle Beach (Thanks for not taking him Nucks!) The West is going to be even more competitive this year, and I think the odd teams out this year will be the Nucks, Preds and Avs, and the three taking their spots will be the Hawks, Yotes and Oilers...definatly a youth movement in the West!

[Aries21]

ottawa's defense is looking pretty weak right now only 3 solid defensemen, glad they got rid of redden tho, he was making waaay too much.

[Mr. Manlet]

I've been looking forward to the start of the season since Draft Day when we took Kyle Beach (Thanks for not taking him Nucks!) The West is going to be even more competitive this year, and I think the odd teams out this year will be the Nucks, Preds and Avs, and the three taking their spots will be the Hawks, Yotes and Oilers...definatly a youth movement in the West!

hell yea..and sharks picked up rob blake...discuss

imo, decent move considering they lost campbell..

[Rexy]

ottawa's defense is looking pretty weak right now only 3 solid defensemen, glad they got rid of redden tho, he was making waaay too much.

apparently you guys are trading Mezaros for Boyle though...

[Kovalchuk]

apparently you guys are trading Mezaros for Boyle though...

6 million dollars of injuries!!!!!!!! GO SENS GO! lol

[Rexy]

6 million dollars of injuries!!!!!!!! GO SENS GO! lol

It was a freak accident lol, its not like he tears his ACL every season, he took a skate across the wrist

[thegenerel]

I would argue that the Hawks have a far better youth then the Yotes

wut? no pens?

crosby, malkin, staal, fleury, whitney, letang, goligoski

[thegenerel]

I'm very happy to have a real heavyweight in Montreal. The last good one was Brashear 10 years ago. Better than Kostopoulos that's for sure...

laraque is really only good for fighting. he pissed me off so much during the playoffs.

the guy shouldnt have been out there, esp when roberts sat.

[Rexy]

wut? no pens?

crosby, malkin, staal, fleury, whitney, letang, goligoski

toews, kane, ladd, keith, seabrook, barker, byfuglien

Other then Crosby and Letang...meh. I wasn't impressed with Malkin in the playoffs, round 3 on he started to look like Yashin to me. Staal had a terrible season, and Fleury is real streaky (reminds me of Grant Fuhr)

[Mr. Manlet]

toews, kane, ladd, keith, seabrook, barker, byfuglien

Other then Crosby and Letang...meh. I wasn't impressed with Malkin in the playoffs, round 3 on he started to look like Yashin to me. Staal had a terrible season, and Fleury is real streaky (reminds me of Grant Fuhr)

was their first post season experience..i think everyone expected them to slump

[DRob27]

toews, kane, ladd, keith, seabrook, barker, byfuglien

Other then Crosby and Letang...meh. I wasn't impressed with Malkin in the playoffs, round 3 on he started to look like Yashin to me. Staal had a terrible season, and Fleury is real streaky (reminds me of Grant Fuhr)

Malkin, Crosby, and Fleury are way out of their league. Staal and Letang aren't amazing yet, but given their ages they're doing pretty darn good in the NHL.

[oshjo75]

first 2 Pens lines MAYBE...
Dupuis/Crosby/Satan....Fedotenko/Malkin/Sykora....whew not bad though Dupuis is not a first liner, I hope he gets pushed back

[Kovalchuk]

I wasn't impressed with Malkin in the playoffs, round 3 on he started to look like Yashin to me.

Wow. You are really dumb.

He was the best player in the entire NHL round 1 and 2 and the start of round 3. Way better than Crosby in both series, scored way more important goals then Crosby throughout the playoffs and scored way more goals in general. He was runner-up for the Hart trophy, lead his team to a better record WITHOUT Crosby in the line-up than with him.

[Rexy]

Wow. You are really dumb.

He was the best player in the entire NHL round 1 and 2 and the start of round 3. Way better than Crosby in both series, scored way more important goals then Crosby throughout the playoffs and scored way more goals in general. He was runner-up for the Hart trophy, lead his team to a better record WITHOUT Crosby in the line-up than with him.

he scored alot in the first 2 rounds, then it got physical against the Flyers and he did nothing, thats why I said from round 3 on.

so he fell off in the IMPORTANT games

[TheStack]

Malkin, Crosby, and Fleury are way out of their league. Staal and Letang aren't amazing yet, but given their ages they're doing pretty darn good in the NHL.

It will be a MTL/PIT for 1/2 or 2/1 in the east again. I said it here.

[johnnyD7]

Wow. You are really dumb.

He was the best player in the entire NHL round 1 and 2 and the start of round 3. Way better than Crosby in both series, scored way more important goals then Crosby throughout the playoffs and scored way more goals in general. He was runner-up for the Hart trophy, lead his team to a better record WITHOUT Crosby in the line-up than with him.


Key there is he was better than Crosby until they started to play really good teams.

[MacGyverDel]

Hey fellas. :)

Hope you're all keeping up on things,
as you know I rely on your expertise later. ;)


http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z291/macgyverdel/Hockey-2.gif

[johnnyD7]

Holy sh*t Jager just signed with a russian team...wat?

[Mr. Manlet]

Holy sh*t Jager just signed with a russian team...wat?

wtf..?

[DRob27]

Holy sh*t Jager just signed with a russian team...wat?

Yep, he's gone...other than his douchebaggery I'll miss the guy.


The Pens have signed Janne Pesonen from the Finnish league, where I believe he posted up the most points last season. Should be a cheap signing, so I'll take it.

[Rexy]

Key there is he was better than Crosby until they started to play really good teams.

Hence my Yashin comparison! It will be Mtl-Pit in the East this year most likely, but the West will win again...The East is far too weak compared to the West

[Rexy]

Just wanted to share the big rumor now. Apparently Tampa wants a goalie (no faith in Smith) and has alot of cap space after freeing Boyle.

Tampa Bay Gets
Khabibulan

Chicago Gets
Smith

Just read this, and thought I would post it here. Apparently it was broadcast on HockeyCentral also

thoughts?

[thegenerel]

Yep, he's gone...other than his douchebaggery I'll miss the guy.


The Pens have signed Janne Pesonen from the Finnish league, where I believe he posted up the most points last season. Should be a cheap signing, so I'll take it.

some hockey writers are saying he is pretty good and has really nice potential.

[Dan O Mac]

The Lightning really screwed Dan Boyle. In Feb. they gave him a long-term deal with a NTC and told him they wanted him around for good. Since they decided to sign every forward in sight in FA, they resorted to threats and personal insults to get him to waive the NTC. Poor guy had just married a TB girl and had commissioned an expensive property that was being built :shakeshead:

Peter Griffin strikes again!

Tampa GM Jay Feaster:

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn427/dmac224/Feaster_Headshot_NOBKG.jpg



http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn427/dmac224/petergriffin.gif

[Rexy]

yea, they really dropped the ball, but he can take solice in the fact that Tampa has no Defense or goaltending now lol.

[Kovalchuk]

Key there is he was better than Crosby until they started to play really good teams.

Simply untrue. In the regular season the Penguins were better without Crosby in the line-up. That is a fact. Look at the schedule and tell me "they only played bad teams" during that time.

[Rexy]

Simply untrue. In the regular season the Penguins were better without Crosby in the line-up. That is a fact. Look at the schedule and tell me "they only played bad teams" during that time.

nobody said "bad teams" we said "Important games"

when the games got really important, Malkin disapeared...he got "Tired"

[johnnyD7]

nobody said "bad teams" we said "Important games"

when the games got really important, Malkin disapeared...he got "Tired"


Thank you, when I made the comment, it was refering to the playoffs (look at the message I quoted).

[DRob27]

Pens signed Matt Cooke yesterday. Good replacement for Ruutu. Hits a lot and will get more points than Ruutu so I'm down. Might have to light my Ruutu jersey on fire in honor of his name though :(

[Greg1983]

Pens signed Matt Cooke yesterday. Good replacement for Ruutu. Hits a lot and will get more points than Ruutu so I'm down. Might have to light my Ruutu jersey on fire in honor of his name though :(

Jesus two of the former Canucks I hate most! I guess you'll be signing Kesler next season...

[TheManofSteel]

Outdoor Game, New Year's Day 2009

Detroit Red Wings Vs. Chicago Blackhawks
Wrigley Field

[Rexy]

Outdoor Game, New Year's Day 2009

Detroit Red Wings Vs. Chicago Blackhawks
Wrigley Field

I will be there :D

[winthorpe]

I will be there :D
Nice. I'm looking to get there as well.

[_IronFist_]

Canucks taking the cup...

Best defense in the league right now..
Mitchell Bieksa
Ohlund Salo
Krajchek Miller

Luongo in net...

Down right nasty!!!!

The Flames got good defense pairings as well..

im with you so far brother, but without naslund, our O is looking pretty weak.

[TheStack]

im with you so far brother, but without naslund, our O is looking pretty weak.

You will battle for playoffs as always. But I don't agree with you on the canucks' D, imo it's average at best.

[winthorpe]

You will battle for playoffs as always. But I don't agree with you on the canucks' D, imo it's average at best.
Opinion seconded.

[Rexy]

Third...ed

[bignpisst]

Outdoor Game, New Year's Day 2009

Detroit Red Wings Vs. Chicago Blackhawks
Wrigley Field

That will be a good way to celebrate the new year :D

[Dan O Mac]

First he absolutely goes off on Burke (can't blame him for that one though, he wasn't the instigator), now he rips Hossa about his decision to pick DET over a pay-out.

From SI.com:

[Marian] Hossa didn't pick lifestyle either; he picked hockey. "Who wants to live in Detroit?" said Oilers general manager Kevin Lowe.

Nice one; that'll help you with FA's in the future. I know he's frustrated, but dissing Hoss in the media isn't gonna change a thing.

[winthorpe]

.... "Who wants to live in Detroit?"
Although he is acting like a child about it, being someone who lives just single digit miles away from said city, I cannot see anything wrong with his dickish statement. haha

[Flex Appeal]

Interesting to see Bertuzzi back in Canada and Recchi playing for the Bolts.

[BMC1979]

First he absolutely goes off on Burke (can't blame him for that one though, he wasn't the instigator), now he rips Hossa about his decision to pick DET over a pay-out.

From SI.com:

[Marian] Hossa didn't pick lifestyle either; he picked hockey. "Who wants to live in Detroit?" said Oilers general manager Kevin Lowe.

Nice one; that'll help you with FA's in the future. I know he's frustrated, but dissing Hoss in the media isn't gonna change a thing.

In my earlier post talking about Hossa's decision and the clip of Lowe talking about it, I said I thought Lowe seemed a little pissed about the decision. Guess this just proves it. But, that being said, being a fan of all teams Edmonton, has Lowe looked around at his city? Not exactly the most beautiful city in the world. I think it probably comes down to the fact that even though the Oilers tried to throw a bunch of money at Hossa, it wasn't enough. As I said before, Hossa's goal is clearly more about winning the cup than money and, unfortunately, he's got a lot better chance of doing that in Detroit.

[TheStack]

In my earlier post talking about Hossa's decision and the clip of Lowe talking about it, I said I thought Lowe seemed a little pissed about the decision. Guess this just proves it. But, that being said, being a fan of all teams Edmonton, has Lowe looked around at his city? Not exactly the most beautiful city in the world. I think it probably comes down to the fact that even though the Oilers tried to throw a bunch of money at Hossa, it wasn't enough. As I said before, Hossa's goal is clearly more about winning the cup than money and, unfortunately, he's got a lot better chance of doing that in Detroit.

I agree with you 100%. It's getting harder and harder for northern cities to get star players via free agency.

[Greg1983]

Interesting to see Bertuzzi back in Canada

It's going to blow having to cheer for that big retard, but I'll suck it up and do it anyways like I did when we got Marchment.

[Dan O Mac]

It's going to blow having to cheer for that big retard, but I'll suck it up and do it anyways like I did when we got Marchment.

I had to do the same when the Leafs picked up Marchment :D. Keenan must really have a hard-on for Bertuzzi; you'd think he had enough of him in Florida. Maybe he figures if he can turn him back into a player he can regain some credibility after pulling off possibly the worst trade in the history of the game.

Canucks signed Demitra. Looks like they're covering their bases since it wouldn't be smart to bank on Sundin. Demitra's looked terrible since the lockout, and I heard he was a real problem in the room in Minny.

And LOL at the GM's continuing to act like little kids. St. Louis throws an offer sheet at Bernier just because the Nucks gave one to Backes. No way VAN wasn't gonna match and take the 2nd round pick when they gave up a 2nd AND a 3rd to get him...

[Kovalchuk]

They were talking about a rumour tonight on The Score.

Ilya Kovalchuk to Vancouver for Henrik, Daniel and Kevin Bieksa.

I'm doubtful something that big will happen... but Ilya is definitely checking his watch in Atlanta looking to win a Championship and getting zero support.

[Dan O Mac]

They were talking about a rumour tonight on The Score.

Ilya Kovalchuk to Vancouver for Henrik, Daniel and Kevin Bieksa.

I'm doubtful something that big will happen... but Ilya is definitely checking his watch in Atlanta looking to win a Championship and getting zero support.

I don't think there's any way that happens as is. Ilya's obviously the best player in the deal, but lacking offensive depth already, it doesn't make sense for the Nucks to trade away 2 1st liners.

[KingCanuck]

I don't think there's any way that happens as is. Ilya's obviously the best player in the deal, but lacking offensive depth already, it doesn't make sense for the Nucks to trade away 2 1st liners.

Pretty much. This deal wont happen.

[canuckle]

They were talking about a rumour tonight on The Score.

Ilya Kovalchuk to Vancouver for Henrik, Daniel and Kevin Bieksa.

I'm doubtful something that big will happen... but Ilya is definitely checking his watch in Atlanta looking to win a Championship and getting zero support.

Gillis was talking on the team and said that there is a big announcement tomorrow. Demitra + Sundin?

EDIT: i just hit DRob69 and TheManofSteel for the playoff pool. the others will follow when i can hit you again

[Kovalchuk]

I don't think there's any way that happens as is. Ilya's obviously the best player in the deal, but lacking offensive depth already, it doesn't make sense for the Nucks to trade away 2 1st liners.

I am pretty sure everyone in Vancouver feels the Sedin's are legit good second liners.. not first liners.

[LVI]

?Jason is a veteran NHL defencemen who will add depth and a physical presence on our blueline,? stated Kevin Prendergast, the Oilers? Vice-President of Hockey Operations. ?A proven leader, he is excited to be returning to his hometown to play and we are looking forward to having him as part of our defensive corps.?

The 6?4?, 225 pound defencemen will be entering his 12th NHL season this coming fall and the Oilers will be his fifth team. Strudwick, who will turn 33 on July 17th, has played 488 career NHL games since turning pro with the New York Islanders in 1995-96. He has scored 11-27-38 and registered 678 career penalty minutes during his career that has seen him play with the Islanders, Vancouver, Chicago and the New York Rangers.

Drafted by the Islanders in the third round of the 1994 NHL Entry Draft, Strudwick played 52 games with the New York Rangers in 2007-08. Averaging 12:56 minutes of ice time per game, he scored 1-1-2 with 40 penalty minutes and was even in the plus/minus rankings. He was scoreless in two post-season appearances.

Strudwick turned pro after a successful junior career that saw him win back-to-back Memorial Cup championships with the Kamloops Blazers of the Western Hockey League in 1993-94 and 1994-95.

[canuckle]

I am pretty sure everyone in Vancouver feels the Sedin's are legit good second liners.. not first liners.

x2

IF the canucks can get Sundin then we will have a solid 1st line and the sedin's won't play against the prongers and lidstroms of the league. I think that alone will boost their stats back up. A solid 1 2 punch of offence....wait canucks offense???

[KingCanuck]

x2

IF the canucks can get Sundin then we will have a solid 1st line and the sedin's won't play against the prongers and lidstroms of the league. I think that alone will boost their stats back up. A solid 1 2 punch of offence....wait canucks offense???

Rumour is Canucks are very close to signing Sundin, source = Team 1040 radio

Hell yeah!

[Dan O Mac]

I am pretty sure everyone in Vancouver feels the Sedin's are legit good second liners.. not first liners.

They're both pretty mch PPG guys while playing mostly with Taylor Pyatt, so I'd say they're legit 1st liners. One line=3 guys, 30 teams, 90 first liners, take away a few (even 60) from the mediocre teams and you still won't find 28 guys that put up more points than them. 1st liner isn't synonymous with superstar.

[KingCanuck]

They're both pretty mch PPG guys while playing mostly with Taylor Pyatt, so I'd say they're legit 1st liners. One line=3 guys, 30 teams, 90 first liners, take away a few (even 60) from the mediocre teams and you still won't find 28 guys that put up more points than them. 1st liner isn't synonymous with superstar.

I think the Sedins can be high 90 point players if they had an all star or legit 1st liner on their line.

[Dan O Mac]

I think the Sedins can be high 90 point players if they had an all star or legit 1st liner on their line.

They definitely have the talent.

[canuckle]

Rumour is Canucks are very close to signing Sundin, source = Team 1040 radio

Hell yeah!

Ya baby, Shortie on the team said that he heard he's very likely to sign next week. He said it's from a very reliable source. Also Tambolini was on and was asked if it sundin taking his time was a matter of whether he wants to play or which team, and Tambo said "he training very hard still".

*crosses fingers*

[canuckle]

I think the Sedins can be high 90 point players if they had an all star or legit 1st liner on their line.

Bernier might be a really good fit for them. Right hander with size and speed. Time will tell...

[KingCanuck]

Ya baby, Shortie on the team said that he heard he's very likely to sign next week. He said it's from a very reliable source. Also Tambolini was on and was asked if it sundin taking his time was a matter of whether he wants to play or which team, and Tambo said "he training very hard still".

*crosses fingers*

Sedin -Sedin - Bernier
Raymond - Sundin - Demitra
Burrows - Kesler - Petinger
Hordy - Wellwood - Johnson/ Shannon

Bieksa - Mitchell
Ohlund - Salo
Edler - Krajicheck

Luongo
Sanford

= Playoffs

[canuckle]

Sedin -Sedin - Bernier
Raymond - Sundin - Demitra
Burrows - Kesler - Petinger
Hordy - Johnson - Rypien/Brown/Cowen

Bieksa - Mitchell
Ohlund - Salo
Edler - Krajicheck

Luongo
Sanford

= Playoffs

Hell look how close the canucks were last year and they had so many injuries right from training camp to the D and imploded down the stretch.

Same healthy team from last year = playoffs.

[Dan O Mac]

Sedin -Sedin - Bernier
Raymond - Sundin - Demitra
Burrows - Kesler - Petinger
Hordy - Wellwood - Johnson/ Shannon

Bieksa - Mitchell
Ohlund - Salo
Edler - Krajicheck

Luongo
Sanford

= Playoffs

Looks pretty good. But Welly would be useless on the fourth line, he has no intangibles to speak of. If he doesn't perform well in camp and make one of the top 2 lines, he's probably sent to the minors.

[Greg1983]

Sedin -Sedin - Bernier
Raymond - Sundin - Demitra
Burrows - Kesler - Petinger
Hordy - Wellwood - Johnson/ Shannon

Bieksa - Mitchell
Ohlund - Salo
Edler - Krajicheck

Luongo
Sanford

= Playoffs

I hate to agree with you, but it would suck to have that team in the same division as Calgary. Let's hope Sundin doesn't sign!

Oh and no way should you be listing the Sedins as line 1.

[Rexy]

If Sundin signs, I don't see why the highest paid player in the NHL would be on the second line.

[KingCanuck]

If Sundin signs, I don't see why the highest paid player in the NHL would be on the second line.


I hate to agree with you, but it would suck to have that team in the same division as Calgary. Let's hope Sundin doesn't sign!

Oh and no way should you be listing the Sedins as line 1.

Its a Line-1A, Line-1B type of thing

[LVI]

Sedin -Sedin - Bernier
Raymond - Sundin - Demitra
Burrows - Kesler - Petinger
Hordy - Wellwood - Johnson/ Shannon

Bieksa - Mitchell
Ohlund - Salo
Edler - Krajicheck

Luongo
Sanford

= Playoffs

Well I hope that this isnt your line up.

[Greg1983]

Its a Line-1A, Line-1B type of thing

It's closer to a line 1, line 3a, line 3b. The Sedins are nowhere NEAR the level of Sundin+Demitra. But like I said, I hope you're right about the Sedins being first liners next year with Sundin far far away from the Western conference! :)

[KingCanuck]

Well I hope that this isnt your line up.

Why?

[Greg1983]

Why?

Because the Coilers have to play you 8 times a year.

[Rexy]

Schedules are changed, its going back to the good old days of every team atleast twice

[Dan O Mac]

"A week after we won it, I had my newborn daughter in there and she pooped in the Cup," said Draper. "That was something. We had a pretty good laugh.

"It was, well, clean it out. I still drank out of it that night, so no worries.""


The Wings have been pretty rough on Stanley this year. First the beach incident, now this :D.

[bignpisst]

"A week after we won it, I had my newborn daughter in there and she pooped in the Cup," said Draper. "That was something. We had a pretty good laugh.

"It was, well, clean it out. I still drank out of it that night, so no worries.""


The Wings have been pretty rough on Stanley this year. First the beach incident, now this :D.

Thats fukking funny :D

[buresnipes]

"A week after we won it, I had my newborn daughter in there and she pooped in the Cup," said Draper. "That was something. We had a pretty good laugh.

"It was, well, clean it out. I still drank out of it that night, so no worries.""


The Wings have been pretty rough on Stanley this year. First the beach incident, now this :D.

lmfao

[Dan O Mac]

Ted Nolan fired by the Isles :eek:. Apparently the "results weren't there." There has to be more to it though, given Nolan's past inability to get along with his GM. I mean, what can you expect results-wise from a team with a first line of Guerin-Comrie-Satan and half a D-corps that belongs in the minors?

Over/under on when Nolan gets another shot? 10, 20 years :D??

[Dan O Mac]

Just saw on Sportsnet that Sundin has told Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto that he hasn't ruled either out, but still won't make a decision yet. It kind of pisses me off that Sundin is taking heat for taking the time to make the right decision for him; he has no contract, he has that right. Sakic has done the exact same thing with Colorado, and no one's talking about him.

Also saw Forsberg is out until 2009 with more foot surgery. What team is gonna waste cap space on a guy that is not just injury PRONE, but MORE likely to be injured than not?

It's been a great career, but let it go Peter it's over. While you can still walk...

[Rexy]

Sakic is taking his time with Colorado, he doesn't have 4 teams making huge offers to him.

Plus Sakic>>>>>Sundin

[bignpisst]

Dallas Drake retires after 15 years in the NHL

I was glad to see him win the cup

[Flex Appeal]

Dallas Drake retires after 15 years in the NHL

I was glad to see him win the cup

Agreed, very deserving player.

[Kovalchuk]

Ottawa Senators trade talk is heating up...

Khabibulin to Ottawa (maybe with Barker or Seabrook)... Mezaros and Gerber to LA.... Kopitar to Chicago!!

I really hope this doesn't happen.... it would force me to become a Sens fan again!! :(

[Riffo]

Ottawa Senators trade talk is heating up...

Khabibulin to Ottawa (maybe with Barker or Seabrook)... Mezaros and Gerber to LA.... Kopitar to Chicago!!

I really hope this doesn't happen.... it would force me to become a Sens fan again!! :(

That doesn't make much sense...Why would the Kings add another bad goalie and another average, offensive defenseman and get rid of Kopitar ?

[Rexy]

I hate the trade. Barker is going to explode this year, and I really don't want to lose him.

[LVI]

The Edmonton Oilers have agreed to terms with forward Shawn Horcoff on a six-year contract extension. The extension will keep Horcoff under contract through the 2014-15 season.

The 6?1?, 204 pound native of Trail, British Columbia, is entering his ninth National Hockey League season in 2008-09 and will be in the final year of his current three-year contract.

In 53 games last season, Horcoff recorded almost a point per game, collecting 21 goals and 29 assists for 50 points. His solid play led him to being named to the Western Conference All-Stars for the 2008 NHL All-Star Game in Atlanta, Georgia.

Oilers General Manager Kevin Lowe says, ?Shawn has proven himself as one of the premier players in the National Hockey League and has been and will continue to be an integral part of our organization moving forward. By being proactive with this deal, we avoid being in a situation where Shawn could become an unrestricted free agent after next season and the unknown free agency can bring to the organization. Having him under contract long-term is something that has been on our radar for a long time and we are extremely pleased to finalize this deal.?

Horcoff says, ?This is a great day for myself and my family. Edmonton is a great city and one that has embraced us in every way possible. I?ve spent my entire career with the Oilers and I?m thrilled about the direction we are heading in, led by our new owner Daryl Katz and General Manager Kevin Lowe. I?d like to thank the Edmonton Oilers and our great fans for making this possible.?

After re-aggravating a shoulder injury at the NHL All-Star Game, Horcoff played one game (January 29th vs. San Jose) before electing to have surgery to repair his left shoulder and end his season.

Originally drafted by the Oilers (4th round, 99th overall) in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft, the 29-year-old forward had a breakout season in 2005-06, registering career-highs in goals (22), assists (51), points (73) and penalty minutes. In 24 playoff games, Horcoff added 19 points (7-12-19), helping lead the Oilers to game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals.


A solid resigning. Horcoff is an excellent faceoff man, and with teh right wingers can be a devistating set up man, almost like Doug Weight was for us in the late 90's.

[BMC1979]

Saw the Horcoff signing this morning. Pretty happy about that. Basically for all the reasons you listed. He's the leader now so I'm glad they locked him up for a few more years. Sounded like he was pretty happy about the deal too which is great to hear.

[Riffo]

How is Horcoff worth more than Marc Savard ?

[Dan O Mac]

That trade rumour is coming from hockeybuzz.com, aka the National Enquirer of rumour reporting. I've heard they troll message boards and print whatever they see. Obviously chance suggests they'll occasionally be right, but not often. That's why I'm surprised Sportsnet picked it up.

It's coming from the same dude that reported Ottawa signing Williams as official, then a couple days later it's announced he signs with the Thrash.

Doesn't make sense anyway. LA is not gonna trade a potential superstar and the face of their franchise for a bad contract goalie (they've already got one in Cloutier eating cap space), when they've got one of the best goalie prospects in Bernier, and a very good but not star defenceman in Meszaros. If this goes down as reported, I will rep everyone on the previous 5 pages of this thread.

[Dan O Mac]

How is Horcoff worth more than Marc Savard ?

Gotta overpay when you're having trouble luring FA's. See Atlanta and Ron Hainsey, and Toronto and *ughh* Jeff Finger.

[canuckle]

a little OT... but in case you were wondering what Elisha Cuthbert is up to now...

http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/images/bigimages/elisha_cuthbert_bikini_nhl_13_big.jpg

DION PHANEUF

more pics and bashing of phaneuf at the link haha...

http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/?p=4876

[BMC1979]

Finally got the last of my pool reps done with Greg1983. Took me long enough but had to spread a lot around.

[Dan O Mac]

Finally got the last of my pool reps done with Greg1983. Took me long enough but had to spread a lot around.

LOL, Greg must be a patient man, that was so long ago! You need to neg more trolls :D.

[BMC1979]

LOL, Greg must be a patient man, that was so long ago! You need to neg more trolls :D.

That's my problem, I don't neg or rep nearly enough so it takes me longer than the average person.

[Greg1983]

LOL, Greg must be a patient man, that was so long ago! You need to neg more trolls :D.

Haha I wasn't really keeping track so my reaction was like "score free reps!". Although BPP still hasn't hit me for this yet! This was a good reminder about that!

[buresnipes]

Haha I wasn't really keeping track so my reaction was like "score free reps!". Although BPP still hasn't hit me for this yet! This was a good reminder about that!

i highly doubt he will do it now. dickhead move on his part.

[Greg1983]

i highly doubt he will do it now. dickhead move on his part.

I fired him a couple PMs (one about a month ago and one a week or so after that) but never got a response. Ah well.

[buresnipes]

I fired him a couple PMs (one about a month ago and one a week or so after that) but never got a response. Ah well.

i sent him 3. he never responded to any of em

[LVI]

I fired him a couple PMs (one about a month ago and one a week or so after that) but never got a response. Ah well.


i sent him 3. he never responded to any of em

Unless BPP has changed his ways he'll pay up. He always paid me, a little late and a few reminders but he always paid.

[Rexy]

That trade rumour is coming from hockeybuzz.com, aka the National Enquirer of rumour reporting. I've heard they troll message boards and print whatever they see. Obviously chance suggests they'll occasionally be right, but not often. That's why I'm surprised Sportsnet picked it up.

It's coming from the same dude that reported Ottawa signing Williams as official, then a couple days later it's announced he signs with the Thrash.

Doesn't make sense anyway. LA is not gonna trade a potential superstar and the face of their franchise for a bad contract goalie (they've already got one in Cloutier eating cap space), when they've got one of the best goalie prospects in Bernier, and a very good but not star defenceman in Meszaros. If this goes down as reported, I will rep everyone on the previous 5 pages of this thread.

Don't be surprised if you see Khabi go to LA for picks/prospects.

even with Cloutier eating cap space, they are still 10mil under the minimum.

[Dan O Mac]

So rumour has Ottawa and Van talking about Vermette, with the Sens asking for Kesler in return. Don't do it Gillis. Vermette would shine IMO in a true scoring role, but Kesler is the ideal third-line centre, the kind of guy you need to win cups. His intangibles outweigh the benefit of Vermette IMO.

[Rexy]

Im sure everyone has heard by now that Scotty Bowman was just hired by Chicago for the role of Senior Advisor. If not, here is the link.

http://blackhawks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=379233

gonna take this as a chance to say I told ya so, and I do recall Dan being a dick about me saying it was gonna happen. An apology is in order, but I'll settle for reps :D

[Flex Appeal]

An apology is in order, but I'll settle for reps :D

No problem, Neg's coming up.

J/K I'll let Dan O do it. :D

[canuckle]

So rumour has Ottawa and Van talking about Vermette, with the Sens asking for Kesler in return. Don't do it Gillis. Vermette would shine IMO in a true scoring role, but Kesler is the ideal third-line centre, the kind of guy you need to win cups. His intangibles outweigh the benefit of Vermette IMO.


I don't know enough about Vermette to access a Kesler for Vermette deal, but Kes has consistently improved the last few years and is just coming into his own.

Anybody else notice the heat the canucks get on tsn's comments whenever there is a Sundin story? Since when did they become the garbage team of the west!? Silly habs fans...


EDIT: oh and good pickup for Edmonton to get Tambellini from the Canucks as their new GM. Burkie's old wingman is now sleeping with his enemy :D

[Dan O Mac]

Im sure everyone has heard by now that Scotty Bowman was just hired by Chicago for the role of Senior Advisor. If not, here is the link.

http://blackhawks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=379233

gonna take this as a chance to say I told ya so, and I do recall Dan being a dick about me saying it was gonna happen. An apology is in order, but I'll settle for reps :D

Apology for what? IIRC, all I said was that he denied it, which was true, and provided evidence when questioned about that.


No problem, Neg's coming up.

J/K I'll let Dan O do it. :D

But your negs pack double the hit :D

[BMC1979]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3513064


EDMONTON, Alberta -- New Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz believes depth in the team's executive offices is as important as depth on the ice, and a handful of moves Thursday proved that.

The Oilers promoted general manager Kevin Lowe to president of hockey operations and named longtime Vancouver Canucks executive Steve Tambellini to replace him Thursday.

"In my estimation, and many people in hockey feel the same way, Steve's the strongest candidate in hockey at the executive level who wasn't a general manager," Lowe said. "It was a real easy choice."

Kevin Prendergast, the team's longtime vice president of hockey operations, is the new assistant general manager.

Lowe had been general manager since 2000 and helped guide the team to the Stanley Cup final in 2006.

Tambellini joins the Oilers after 17 seasons in a variety of management roles with the Vancouver Canucks. He served as their vice president and assistant general manager the past three seasons.

Lowe and Tambellini have worked together previously, putting together Canadian national teams for the world championships and Olympics.

Tambellini is the latest high-profile executive to leave the Canucks after the team fired general manager Dave Nonis and replaced him with Mike Gillis.

Nice to see Katz shaking things up a bit.

[harrisjl]

My 12-Game mini plan for the up coming season :D
Game Day Date Time Team
2 Monday October 13th 7:00 Detroit
7 Wednesday November 12th 7:00 Washington
12 Wednesday November 26th 7:00 Philadelphia
14 Thursday December 4th 7:00 Pittsburgh
17 Tuesday December 16th 7:00 Montreal
22 Tuesday January 6th 7:00 New Jersey
24 Thursday January 29th 7:00 Tampa Bay
28 Tuesday February 17th 7:00 Boston
31 Thursday February 26th 7:00 Buffalo
33 Monday March 9th 7:00 N.Y. Rangers
37 Wednesday March 25th 7:00 Ottawa
40 Tuesday April 7th 7:00 N.Y. Islanders

[Dan O Mac]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3513064



Nice to see Katz shaking things up a bit.

Van city passed him over twice for their GM job despite his solid track record with Hockey Canada. Either they know something the Oilers don't, or are going to be proven very wrong.

[BMC1979]

Van city passed him over twice for their GM job despite his solid track record with Hockey Canada. Either they know something the Oilers don't, or are going to be proven very wrong.

I'm hoping it's the later. Hopefully he's a little more steady than the roller coaster ride that Lowe has been. Don't get me wrong, I think Lowe's done all right, but he always seems to go one extreme or the other (do too much or do absolutely nothing) and there never seemed to be a middle ground. Although this off season I think he's done a pretty good job.

[Dan O Mac]

I'm hoping it's the later. Hopefully he's a little more steady than the roller coaster ride that Lowe has been. Don't get me wrong, I think Lowe's done all right, but he always seems to go one extreme or the other (do too much or do absolutely nothing) and there never seemed to be a middle ground. Although this off season I think he's done a pretty good job.

That's so true. He'll have one year where he looks like a genius, then he'll have one like last off-season. I think he'll be better in more of a consultant's role, where his input can be filtered and the good can be separated from the bad.

[LVI]

this is the year the Oil will start to become a top 8 club in the NHL. 98 pts isnt unrealistic, nor is 4th in the Western conf., 2nd in the NW.

[Rexy]

Im calling for Chicago to be 4th in the West.

[bignpisst]

Good news for the Wings they got Fillpula for 5 years

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/8395836/Red-Wings-re-sign-Filppula-to-$15M,-5-year-deal

[Jyeatbvg]

Havn't wandered in this thread for a while, but just wanted to say that I'm getting pretty pissed at the Mats Sundin saga. There are updates in the newspaper and TV everyday, all with the same storyline: Sundin has yet to make a decision. It's making it tough on the Leafs management (though they're idiots) and especially the fans. I say just go to Montreal and win a cup, not back to this piece of hell where hockey used to be!

[Dan O Mac]

Good news for the Wings they got Fillpula for 5 years

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/8395836/Red-Wings-re-sign-Filppula-to-$15M,-5-year-deal

Really nice value there. Another awesome two-way player for the Wings; your Euro scout (Hakan Andersson) better be getting PAID.

Sundin update from the Toronto Star:

"While Sundin has remained mum on his future, observers in Sweden say his actions speak loudly. For about the past 15 years, Sundin has been the organizer of informal summer skates among NHL players based in Sweden. Those workouts are set to begin Aug. 11 at the Globen Arena. Normally, this is when Sundin would be working the phones, making sure his countrymen know about the available ice. This summer, however, that task has fallen to someone else and Sundin, though he is in Stockholm, isn't expected to attend. "He's not working out. It doesn't seem like he plans to, he's just golfing," said one source."

I'd like to see him re-sign with the Leafs and mentor Steen and Kulemin/Tlusty, but I'd also understand if he wanted to go elsewhere and play with some proven linemates for the first time since Mogilny-Roberts.

Oilers update from the Edmonton Sun:

"Yesterday's Oilers announcement, in many ways, sounds like a bigger deal than it really is. Kevin Lowe is still the hockey boss. Period. He's still going to do all the big GM stuff. Now Steve Tambellini is second in command doing some of the other GM stuff with Kevin Prendergast under him remaining responsible for all scouting operations."

So how is this anything but a lateral move for Tambellini? Maybe Lowe will eventually move further upstairs and manage Rexall Place as well?

[canuckle]

Really nice value there. Another awesome two-way player for the Wings; your Euro scout (Hakan Andersson) better be getting PAID.

Sundin update from the Toronto Star:

"While Sundin has remained mum on his future, observers in Sweden say his actions speak loudly. For about the past 15 years, Sundin has been the organizer of informal summer skates among NHL players based in Sweden. Those workouts are set to begin Aug. 11 at the Globen Arena. Normally, this is when Sundin would be working the phones, making sure his countrymen know about the available ice. This summer, however, that task has fallen to someone else and Sundin, though he is in Stockholm, isn't expected to attend. "He's not working out. It doesn't seem like he plans to, he's just golfing," said one source."

I'd like to see him re-sign with the Leafs and mentor Steen and Kulemin/Tlusty, but I'd also understand if he wanted to go elsewhere and play with some proven linemates for the first time since Mogilny-Roberts.

Oilers update from the Edmonton Sun:

"Yesterday's Oilers announcement, in many ways, sounds like a bigger deal than it really is. Kevin Lowe is still the hockey boss. Period. He's still going to do all the big GM stuff. Now Steve Tambellini is second in command doing some of the other GM stuff with Kevin Prendergast under him remaining responsible for all scouting operations."

So how is this anything but a lateral move for Tambellini? Maybe Lowe will eventually move further upstairs and manage Rexall Place as well?

He's familiar with Lowe from Hockey Canada + maybe he doesn't like where Gillis is steering the ship in vancouver.


EDIT: I think I hit a bunch of you guys for the playoff pool but forgot to remove from my sig. Anyways, I hit BODYBYDANIEL and will still get the rest of you when I spread around enough. I need to start repping / negging more haha

[Dan O Mac]

Must really be a slow time in hockey, THN ranked the logos:

http://thehockeynews.com/articles/17432-THNcoms-NHL-Logo-Rankings.html

I've never been a fan of the Hawks logo; I would have put Detroit #1. Panthers and Penguins deserve more love though.

LOL @ the comment about the Canes' logo!

[buresnipes]

Must really be a slow time in hockey, THN ranked the logos:

http://thehockeynews.com/articles/17432-THNcoms-NHL-Logo-Rankings.html

I've never been a fan of the Hawks logo; I would have put Detroit #1. Panthers and Penguins deserve more love though.

LOL @ the comment about the Canes' logo!

Dallas
Stars It’s a big star and it says ‘Stars.’



lmao

[winthorpe]

Must really be a slow time in hockey, THN ranked the logos:

http://thehockeynews.com/articles/17432-THNcoms-NHL-Logo-Rankings.html

I've never been a fan of the Hawks logo; I would have put Detroit #1. Panthers and Penguins deserve more love though.

LOL @ the comment about the Canes' logo!
I would put Montreal at #1, then The Wings, then The Leafs. I also really dug Quebec's logo and the original Sabres' logo.

[Dan O Mac]

I would put Montreal at #1, then The Wings, then The Leafs. I also really dug Quebec's logo and the original Sabres' logo.

Yeah the Sabres old school logo was sweet. The one before the awful one they have now looked great with the black and grey colour scheme on their unis too.

Worst has to be the "Captain Highliner" Isles jersey from a few years back; what the hell were they thinking :D?

[LVI]

Oilers may be 15th, but our 3rd jersey with the bolt of Oil is the nicest logo in the NHL.

[TheManofSteel]

So pre-seasons game start in about a month & a half. Are we going to switch to

"The OFFICIAL NHL 2008/2009 SEASON THREAD"

?

[ImHuge07]

Look out for the Hawks this year!!

[LVI]

So pre-seasons game start in about a month & a half. Are we going to switch to

"The OFFICIAL NHL 2008/2009 SEASON THREAD"

?

Once the preseason starts somebody will make one. No need to yet.

[winthorpe]

Worst has to be the "Captain Highliner" Isles jersey from a few years back; what the hell were they thinking :D?
No doubt. Some of these "revisions" and alternates are down right terrible.

Oilers may be 15th, but our 3rd jersey with the bolt of Oil is the nicest logo in the NHL.
I've always liked/hated the original Oilers logo with the brighter colours. Growing up watching the Wings and Yzerman, I grew to both fear and hate those bright-ish sweaters, as they often destroyed us and went on to win Cups. However, I liked the way they looked.

[LVI]

No doubt. Some of these "revisions" and alternates are down right terrible.

I've always liked/hated the original Oilers logo with the brighter colours. Growing up watching the Wings and Yzerman, I grew to both fear and hate those bright-ish sweaters, as they often destroyed us and went on to win Cups. However, I liked the way they looked.

As cool as our vintage jerseys are i am not referring to those jerseys. I am referring to these:

http://www.spawn.com/news/news.aspx?id=5273

[harrisjl]

Just ordered my 12 game package :D

12-Game - White Pack
Game Day Date Time Team
2 Monday October 13th 7:00 Detroit
7 Wednesday November 12th 7:00 Washington
12 Wednesday November 26th 7:00 Philadelphia
14 Thursday December 4th 7:00 Pittsburgh
17 Tuesday December 16th 7:00 Montreal
22 Tuesday January 6th 7:00 New Jersey
24 Thursday January 29th 7:00 Tampa Bay
28 Tuesday February 17th 7:00 Boston
31 Thursday February 26th 7:00 Buffalo
33 Monday March 9th 7:00 N.Y. Rangers
37 Wednesday March 25th 7:00 Ottawa
40 Tuesday April 7th 7:00 N.Y. Islanders

Section -
First choice 115, Second choice 108, Third choice 114

http://cdn.nhl.com/hurricanes/images/upload/2008/05/arena_map_12_rotated.jpg

[BMC1979]

Just ordered my 12 game package :D


God I hate you so much right now! Wish I had some extra money to do that here.

[LVI]

God I hate you so much right now! Wish I had some extra money to do that here.

dont worry our dollar is sliding quickly, so our seats will become even more expensive.

[harrisjl]

God I hate you so much right now! Wish I had some extra money to do that here.

LOL I don't know why but my buddy convinced me to go with the defensive side because he has a friend on that side and it's 10$ cheaper per game.... paid 1600$ for two seats.... A lot of that was money in my Canes account from round one and two playoff tickets I bought last year but didn't get to use :(

[TTUbaseballer51]

dallas stars right here

i hated sean avery all of his career and hull pulls the trigger to get him

wow people are going to hate avery and ott

[Dan O Mac]

LOL I don't know why but my buddy convinced me to go with the defensive side because he has a friend on that side and it's 10$ cheaper per game.... paid 1600$ for two seats.... A lot of that was money in my Canes account from round one and two playoff tickets I bought last year but didn't get to use :(

Still don't see the Leafs in there :p.

Canes giving Jeff O'Neill another shot:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=245655&lid=sublink06&lpos=headlines_main

Guy has had a rough go of things with the death of his brother. He has an intense fear of flying too. Had some good years for you guys.


dallas stars right here

i hated sean avery all of his career and hull pulls the trigger to get him

wow people are going to hate avery and ott

t4m is that you? IP check please :D.

[R2 Seafood]

He's familiar with Lowe from Hockey Canada + maybe he doesn't like where Gillis is steering the ship in vancouver.


EDIT: I think I hit a bunch of you guys for the playoff pool but forgot to remove from my sig. Anyways, I hit BODYBYDANIEL and will still get the rest of you when I spread around enough. I need to start repping / negging more haha

You already repped me man, don't worry about it.

[Flex Appeal]

Just ordered my 12 game package :D

12 Wednesday November 26th 7:00 Philadelphia


Good stuff man, some nice Conference battles in there.

Just don't come on here crying on the above night after my Flyer's destroy your Cane's. :D

[LVI]

Oilers and Rexall to honour Glenn Anderson

Jersey retirement ceremony set for January 18th

Edmonton Oilers fans should mark Sunday, January 18, 2009 on their calendars. On that date, the Oilers will honour Glenn Anderson by retiring his #9 in a special on-ice ceremony prior to the 6:00 p.m. game versus the Phoenix Coyotes at Rexall Place.

Rexall and the Oilers will once again present a celebration weekend featuring tribute events to commemorate the retirement of Anderson?s jersey.

Anderson will become the seventh Oiler to have his jersey retired by the team, joining Al Hamilton, Wayne Gretzky, Jari Kurri, Grant Fuhr, Paul Coffey and Mark Messier with their numbers raised to the rafters of Rexall Place.

Anderson, who will be inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame on November 10th, was one of the great offensive stars in NHL history, scoring 1,099 points in 1,129 regular season games during a 16 season career. Beginning his NHL career with the Oilers in 1980-81, Anderson scored 498 goals and 601 assists with 1,120 penalty minutes before retiring following the 1995-96 season. He scored 50-or-more goals twice during his career, netting 54 goals as an Oiler in both 1983-84 and 1985-86, and had three seasons with 100-or-more points.

?Putting Glenn?s number up with the other honoured players at Rexall Place is absolutely deserving and it?s the right thing for our organization to do.? commented Oilers President of Hockey Operations, Kevin Lowe. ?Glenn could bring fans out of their seats with his unbelievable goals and they always seemed to be such timely goals, especially in the playoffs. Being inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame is what should happen to a player of his stature and having #9 up with the others is also the perfect tribute to one of the greatest Oilers.?

In 12 seasons with the Oilers (1980-81 to 1990-91 & 1995-96), ?Andy? scored 417-489-906 with 798 penalty minutes in 845 career games to rank fourth all-time on the Edmonton scoring list. His name can be found among the Oilers career leaders in games (3rd), goals (3rd), assists (4th), hat tricks (2nd with 20), powerplay goals (1st with 126), game winning goals (1st with 73) and multiple point games (4th with 240).

As spectacular as he was in the regular season, Anderson was brilliant in the post-season. The winner of six Stanley Cups, including five as an Oiler, Anderson ranks as the fourth leading scorer in Stanley Cup Playoff history with 93-121-214 in 225 games. He is ranked among the NHL?s all-time post-season career leaders in goals (5th), assists (7th), overtime goals (3rd with five) and game winning goals (6th with 17).

A member of the 1980 Canadian Olympic Team, Anderson also represented Canada at the 1984 and 1987 Canada Cups and the 1989 and 1992 IIHF World Championships

http://oilers.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=379632

[harrisjl]

Still don't see the Leafs in there :p.

Canes giving Jeff O'Neill another shot:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=245655&lid=sublink06&lpos=headlines_main

Guy has had a rough go of things with the death of his brother. He has an intense fear of flying too. Had some good years for you guys.

I hated when they let him go to Toronto :o


Good stuff man, some nice Conference battles in there.

Just don't come on here crying on the above night after my Flyer's destroy your Cane's. :D

Game 1 :D Can't wait.... I only got to go to one game during the SC finals in 2002 (didn't have a mini package) The next year I started investing in a mini package to make sure I get access to each playoff ticket ;)

[Dan O Mac]

From TSN.ca:

"With more coverage of Canadian teams than ever before, TSN today unveiled its 70-game NHL on TSN broadcast schedule for the 2008-09 regular season.

For the first time in network history, all regular season games will feature at least one Canadian team."

I know this will probably lead to a ratings boost, but don't they realize that not everyone wants to see/ is a fan of the 6 Canadian teams? I'd rather see a sweet Western Conference match-up like Detroit-Dallas than the Isles vs. *insert random Canadian team here* just to meet the criteria.

This is the same kind of thinking that produced the redundant "rivalry" system that leaves so many fans out of seeing the best players for sometimes a couple of years.

Hopefully Sportsnet picks up the slack, even though their broadcasts are the suck.

[LVI]

From TSN.ca:

"With more coverage of Canadian teams than ever before, TSN today unveiled its 70-game NHL on TSN broadcast schedule for the 2008-09 regular season.

For the first time in network history, all regular season games will feature at least one Canadian team."

I know this will probably lead to a ratings boost, but don't they realize that not everyone wants to see/ is a fan of the 6 Canadian teams? I'd rather see a sweet Western Conference match-up like Detroit-Dallas than the Isles vs. *insert random Canadian team here* just to meet the criteria.

This is the same kind of thinking that produced the redundant "rivalry" system that leaves so many fans out of seeing the best players for sometimes a couple of years.

Hopefully Sportsnet picks up the slack, even though their broadcasts are the suck.

Wow, Sportsnet west has fantastic coverage of the Oilers games, and likewise TSN's coverage of the Oil games are only average.

[Dan O Mac]

Wow, Sportsnet west has fantastic coverage of the Oilers games, and likewise TSN's coverage of the Oil games are only average.

I'm just not a fan of their panel, though it's probably not the same where you are (Kypreos, Watters, etc.). Plus I hear Loubardias is being given an increased role in play-by-play, and he just annoys the **** out of me.

Speak of the devil: Sportsnet reporting McCabe has waived his NTC to go to Florida for Mike Van Ryn, with the Leafs reportedly picking up a 2 million dollar bonus due to McCabe in September.

I like. McCabe isn't as bad as he's made out to be. He's good for 50+ points and is above-average defensively. He's just overpaid, which isn't his fault, I mean what was he supposed to do, say "no, give me less because i'm not worth that much" :D.

Leafs still have a motherload of D-men though. Someone else is gonna have to move, and I hope it's Ian White.

[Dan O Mac]

From the New York Post:

"The Post has learned that KHL president Alexander Medvedev also informed Gary Bettman that the KHL would hold a universal draft for the 2009-10 season that will include players currently under contract in the NHL. Medvedev told Bettman KHL clubs will offer signing bonuses of $1M to players who are playing in the NHL this season."

Now, I have nothing against Russians who want to go home and play. If the NHL was based on another continent and I had the chance to play here for the same or more money, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

But the league could stand to lose some decent role-players and specialists that would take the money offered in Russia that the NHL teams would be unable to match due to salary cap constraints.

A lot of those guys know their careers likely won't last that long, and some would no doubt take the financial security.

The IIHF better step in here and stop this.

[buresnipes]

From the New York Post:

"The Post has learned that KHL president Alexander Medvedev also informed Gary Bettman that the KHL would hold a universal draft for the 2009-10 season that will include players currently under contract in the NHL. Medvedev told Bettman KHL clubs will offer signing bonuses of $1M to players who are playing in the NHL this season."

Now, I have nothing against Russians who want to go home and play. If the NHL was based on another continent and I had the chance to play here for the same or more money, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

But the league could stand to lose some decent role-players and specialists that would take the money offered in Russia that the NHL teams would be unable to match due to salary cap constraints.

A lot of those guys know their careers likely won't last that long, and some would no doubt take the financial security.

The IIHF better step in here and stop this.
get rid of the scrubs. all the good players will stay.

[LVI]

Nobody is going to go play in Russia with all of the instability there with Georgia, now Poland. Plus EU and USA being pissed at them.

[BMC1979]

This is where Bettman should take the initiative to maybe fold a couple teams. Let the KHL have their draft, fold a couple of the more worthless teams in the NHL, hopefully most of the top players will stay, skill level increases as scrubs bolt for more money and because of fewer teams those scrubs won't be replaced by even worse players. It's a good deal for everyone.

[buresnipes]

This is where Bettman should take the initiative to maybe fold a couple teams. Let the KHL have their draft, fold a couple of the more worthless teams in the NHL, hopefully most of the top players will stay, skill level increases as scrubs bolt for more money and because of fewer teams those scrubs won't be replaced by even worse players. It's a good deal for everyone.

dont fold teams. they need to relocate teams first.

[Dan O Mac]

get rid of the scrubs. all the good players will stay.

So say Steve Ott gets offered triple his NHL pay (which is a conservative figure going by what the NBA guys lured to Europe are getting paid), plus the $1 million bonus. He'd take that in a millisecond. Then Dallas is stuck without a valuable third or fourth line player.

Point is, there aren't just 2 tiers of players: Top guys and scrubs. It's the in-betweens that help win titles that would be most at risk.

[Aries21]

dont fold teams. they need to relocate teams first.

ya definitely, in Canada. Winnipeg and Hamilton first. how is Phoenix doing? Bring Gretzky to Hamilton.

[buresnipes]

So say Steve Ott gets offered triple his NHL pay (which is a conservative figure going by what the NBA guys lured to Europe are getting paid), plus the $1 million bonus. He'd take that in a millisecond. Then Dallas is stuck without a valuable third or fourth line player.

Point is, there aren't just 2 tiers of players: Top guys and scrubs. It's the in-betweens that help win titles that would be most at risk.

i don't think he'd go. most of the guys that go are the russians. the canadians won't go.

[Dan O Mac]

i don't think he'd go. most of the guys that go are the russians. the canadians won't go.

You'd be surprised at the power of the dollar. We're not talking a small increase, rather a huge raise. Not saying all would go in droves, but it would be a problem. Look at the NBA; a lot of those guys are leaving, and they're American.

[buresnipes]

You'd be surprised at the power of the dollar. We're not talking a small increase, rather a huge raise. Not saying all would go in droves, but it would be a problem. Look at the NBA; a lot of those guys are leaving, and they're American.

this isn't the NBA. NHL players aren't so greedy

[Greg1983]

this isn't the NBA. NHL players aren't so greedy

LOL. Don't be naive.

[KingCanuck]

LOL. Don't be naive.

lol x2

[buresnipes]

LOL. Don't be naive.

some people actually want to play in the best league in the world. for most it isn't all about money. it is about championships. sure some russians and other euros might go back to their homeland because of money plus they will be at home. They can go, they are pussies anyways. Canadians who are in the league won't be going anywhere.

[Greg1983]

some people actually want to play in the best league in the world. for most it isn't all about money. it is about championships. sure some russians and other euros might go back to their homeland because of money plus they will be at home. They can go, they are pussies anyways. Canadians who are in the league won't be going anywhere.

It's easy to say that before they get offered two or three times as much to play overseas. If and when that happens, you can bet there's a lot of guys that would take that. I know I would.

[buresnipes]

It's easy to say that before they get offered two or three times as much to play overseas. If and when that happens, you can bet there's a lot of guys that would take that. I know I would.

i wouldn't. why would i wanna go play in some foreign country for big big money rather than play at home in the best league in the world for big money.

[Greg1983]

i wouldn't. why would i wanna go play in some foreign country for big big money rather than play at home in the best league in the world for big money.

Because it's human nature to always want more than you have.

[Mr. Manlet]

why cant hockey just start already

Coyotes are gonna make a playoff berth :D

[buresnipes]

new season thread hockey fans

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109994101

[LVI]

Unsubscribed and now moved to the new NHL thread.

See you all there.

[TheManofSteel]

Unsubscribed and now moved to the new NHL thread.

See you all there.

I suggested this like a week ago, and no one took on

:(

[LVI]

I suggested this like a week ago, and no one took on

:(

I know and really this shouldnt be started yet, but whatever.

[BPP]

sorry, right after this i stopped coming online much

i got 5 of you today...the other 3 please PM me tomorrow for your reps with a link to a post of yours

[Greg1983]

Thanks BPP! :)

[TheManofSteel]

Thanks BPP! :)

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[IsoMaxx]

random bump