The OFFICIAL NHL 2007/2008 SEASON THREAD!

[MetFan]

I'm still pissed that Detroit and Toronto don't play more than 1 or 2 games ever couple of years anymore. They were a great rivalry when I was younger. I hope the Leafs can get back up to being an important team, just not as good as my favorite team of course. :)

As for Hasek, I kind of feel sorry for him. Sure, his skill set has certainly taken a hit in the last year or so, but he was one of the best goalies hands down for years and years in the NHL. The fickle fans here can be hell on a goalie. Of course, I happy that Osgood took over again and he had an outstanding playoff run, but Hasek hating is never what I've been about. Anyway, he's got two Cups now, which is more than A LOT of players have. Hopefully, he just retires and is happy with that. I don't see him being anything more than a backup anymore.

Well, the NHL has changes the schedule for next year and it appears as though there will be a home and away game against Detroit every year from next year on with hopes that it will renew some rivalries that existed before.

[buresnipes]

I'm here dude!

damn i have to spread for u.


ps. im fuvkin hammered

[MacGyverDel]

damn i have to spread for u.


ps. im fuvkin hammered

:eek:

[R2 Seafood]

thanks for the reps everyone. ill hit all the winners when i get bpp repped, that way it'll actually do something

[Greg1983]

damn i have to spread for u.


ps. im fuvkin hammered

Haha nice. I know you're good for it.

[Greg1983]

thanks for the reps everyone. ill hit all the winners when i get bpp repped, that way it'll actually do something

x2

I haven't gotten the chance to get anyone in this thread yet, but post-BPP I'm sure you'll all appreciate it more!

[Dan O Mac]

x2

I haven't gotten the chance to get anyone in this thread yet, but post-BPP I'm sure you'll all appreciate it more!

May I suggest some "regular contributor" reppage :D? Haha, BPP rep is nice though!

Looks like the Leafs and Ron Wilson are almost a done deal. I like.

[MetFan]

1st BODYBYDANIEL 18 PAID

2nd Andre09 17 PAID

3rd oline73 16 PAID

4th hockeychick 15 SPREAD

5th DRob69 14 SPREAD

Greg1983 14 PAID

TheStack 14 PAID

TheManofSteel 14 PAID

Will try for the rest later tonight.

Going to keep trying until this done.

[FormulaLT1poweR]

damn i have to spread for u.

ps. im fuvkin hammered

Did BPP say he'd hit the Top _?

I'll rep the winner, I believe it's BODYBYDANIEL.

[buresnipes]

Did BPP say he'd hit the Top _?

I'll rep the winner, I believe it's BODYBYDANIEL.

he said he would rep the winners. i pmed him the other day with the list of winners but i haven't heard back from him.

[FormulaLT1poweR]

he said he would rep the winners. i pmed him the other day with the list of winners but i haven't heard back from him.

Okay. BODYBYDANIEL was the #1 winner correct? If so, I'll rep him.

[buresnipes]

Okay. BODYBYDANIEL was the #1 winner correct? If so, I'll rep him.

ya he is the number one winner. if ur talking to bpp could u remind him about the pool. maybe he didn't get my last pm.

[FormulaLT1poweR]

ya he is the number one winner. if ur talking to bpp could u remind him about the pool. maybe he didn't get my last pm.

Yep, you bet.

[MacGyverDel]

he said he would rep the winners. i pmed him the other day with the list of winners but i haven't heard back from him.

He's cool with pm's but may have Betting debt himself. :p

[oline73]

im slowly getting closer to getting out of the red.... and a few people still owe

[Flex Appeal]

Okay. BODYBYDANIEL was the #1 winner correct? If so, I'll rep him.

Cool. :cool:


if ur talking to bpp could u remind him about the pool. maybe he didn't get my last pm.

At the risk of sounding ignorant, who is BPP?

[MetFan]

Cool. :cool:



At the risk of sounding ignorant, who is BPP?

Senior Mod who has a Million rep power, so between LT1 and BPP, you should clear 2K in reps between those 2.

Good job in the pool.

[TheStack]

Kovalchuck, you negged me instead of repping me for the pool...

[oline73]

Kovalchuck, you negged me instead of repping me for the pool...

lol, that sucks with the amount of reps you'll be getting it wont make too much of a difference

[Dan O Mac]

Senior Mod who has a Million rep power, so between LT1 and BPP, you should clear 2K in reps between those 2.

Good job in the pool.

He deserves it, always gives great advice in the Canadian thread. It'll be one of the cases where high rep power does equal quality poster.

[MetFan]

He deserves it, always gives great advice in the Canadian thread. It'll be one of the cases where high rep power does equal quality poster.

Agree 100%. His posts don't reflect how helpful he really is. But as you know, if he is in the shadows and only sticks to one area on here, he will not be credited for all that he does.

Nice to see him bump up a couple K, albeit it is for a sports bet, but nonetheless, still happy for him.

[Flex Appeal]

Senior Mod who has a Million rep power, so between LT1 and BPP, you should clear 2K in reps between those 2.

Good job in the pool.

Thanks


He deserves it, always gives great advice in the Canadian thread. It'll be one of the cases where high rep power does equal quality poster.

Thanks Dan O.


Agree 100%. His posts don't reflect how helpful he really is. But as you know, if he is in the shadows and only sticks to one area on here, he will not be credited for all that he does.


Yeah, I used to post in the Nutrition and Supplement sections and help people all the time but it got to the point where I was getting so many P.M.'s it was hard to keep up with them.

[LVI]

I hit everybody except for Greg1983. I must spread before i can get you again.

[TheManofSteel]

The Stanley Cup is OK after taking a tumble during the Red Wings' celebrations in Detroit.

NHL spokeswoman Bernadette Mansur says Saturday the Cup got a slight dent Friday after some players took the trophy to Cheli's Chili Bar, a downtown restaurant owned by Red Wings defenseman Chris Chelios.
Mansur says dent was smoothed out, and the trophy was expected to keep making the rounds.

======

Detroit Red Wings goaltender Dominik Hasek will retire Monday, a person in the NHL told The Associated Press on Sunday night.

TSN also reported, citing "sources," said that Hasek, 43, will make the announcement at an 11 a.m. ET press conference.

[MacGyverDel]

1st BODYBYDANIEL 18 (PAID)

2nd Andre09 17 (PAID)

3rd oline73 16 (PAID)

4th hockeychick 15 (PAID)

5th DRob69 14 (PAID)

Greg1983 14 (hit June 5th so a week away)

TheStack 14

TheManofSteel 14



Other than Greg I will be done in today. ;)

[BMC1979]

Congrats to the winners.

1st BODYBYDANIEL 18 - repped

2nd Andre09 17 - repped

3rd oline73 16 - repped

4th hockeychick 15 - repped

5th DRob69 14 - must spread more before repping again

Greg1983 14 - must spread more before repping again

TheStack 14- must spread more before repping again

TheManofSteel 14 - repped

[Kovalchuk]

Kovalchuck, you negged me instead of repping me for the pool...

FU*K... I am an idiot then.

I'll put you in my sig x2... but it will be a while...

Some friendly person rep TheStack please :)

[BMC1979]

This is a travesty!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3428440


The "Hockey Night in Canada" theme song, a mainstay of Canadian households for 40 years and often thought of as the unofficial second national anthem, may have launched its final hockey game, according to the company that controls use of the song.

The tune, which has opened the Canadian Broadcasting Corp's Saturday night National Hockey League broadcasts since the late 1960s, will not be renewed as the broadcaster has chosen to move in a new direction, said John Ciccone, president of Copyright Music & Visuals.

"Effective immediately following the last playoff game of this season the CBC will cease using the Hockey Night in Canada theme," he said in a statement on the company's website.

He said the CBC had advised the firm it is not prepared to enter into a new license agreement. The old agreement, which cost the CBC about $490 for each game broadcast, expired following the final game of the Stanley Cup playoffs on Wednesday.

"Hockey Night," which made its television debut in 1952, has consistently been a top-rated program in Canada, where hockey reigns as the most popular sport.

The theme music was written in 1968 and has continued with minor changes since then. Last year, it became downloadable as a cellphone ringtone.

Calls to the CBC were not immediately returned. The CBC was sued in 2004 by the composer of the tune, saying the public broadcaster used it too much.

Reaction to the story was quick among hockey fans in both Canada and the northern United States who have grown up with the song.

By mid-afternoon on Thursday, the Globe and Mail newspaper's online edition had 176 reader comments, most of which were heavily critical of the idea of retiring the tune.

"This change reminds me of the new Coke attempt back in the '80s," read a note from E. Stuhl of New York City.

[TheManofSteel]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

Hockey = Second Hardest Sport

[FormulaLT1poweR]

Hasek Retired.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-redwings-hasekretires&prov=ap&type=lgns

[TheStack]

FU*K... I am an idiot then.

I'll put you in my sig x2... but it will be a while...

Some friendly person rep TheStack please :)

no problem :)

[BMC1979]

........

http://sports.sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/abc/News/ContentPosting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CBC-SPORTS-V2&showbyline=True&newsitemid=hnic-song



CTV purchases The Hockey Theme



CTV Inc. announced on Monday it has acquired the rights to The Hockey Theme in perpetuity.

The agreement was reached with Copyright Music & Visuals, which was unable to renew a deal with CBC Sports.

CBC Sports executive director Scott Moore said he was disappointed but not surprised the song was shopped elsewhere.

"The two sides were so far apart and there was so much bad blood that we knew a deal would be difficult," he said. "The reality is it takes two sides to do a deal and we tried everything we could to do a deal.

"We offered arbitration, mediation. We offered to meet their price.

"On Friday, when it came right down to it, we never got a response from them on our latest offer and find out in the meantime they appeared to be negotiating with CTV."

Moore said CBC had negotiated for 14 months but to no avail and that the agency was asking for $2.5 million to $3 million for use in perpetuity.

"We offered the most we could afford," Moore said.

The song had been used on Hockey Night in Canada since 1968.

According to a release, CTV said it agreed to a deal with Copyright Music & Visuals after Friday's deadline with CBC passed. The agency represents the song's composer, Dolores Claman, who was born in Vancouver.

"The song has a long and storied history in Canadian sports, and has become ingrained in the hearts and minds of hockey fans across the country. It is an iconic tune, embraced by Canadians everywhere, and we felt it was imperative to save it," said Rick Brace of CTV Inc.

Moore said he was surprised a rival network would purchase something so inextricably linked to the Hockey Night brand.

"It's a constant commercial for our network," he said.

Earlier in the day, CBC Sports had said it planned to bring in noted sports and entertainment lawyer Gord Kirke in a last-ditch effort to bring about a mediated resolution.

Outstanding lawsuit complicated negotiations

Complicating a bid for a settlement was an outstanding lawsuit filed against the CBC in late 2004 surrounding its use for ringtones and downloads.

Moore said CBC wanted to resolve that issue along with the song's future use, but that representatives for Claman wanted to keep them separate.

Claman, 80, has written about 2,000 jingles over her career, including the Ontario theme A Place to Stand, which she co-wrote with her husband, Richard Morris.

"I am very moved by how so many Canadians have taken the hockey theme to heart. We are so pleased the song has found a new home," said Claman, who now resides in Britain.

Before Kirke's involvement was announced, CBC Sports announced plans to launch a new national contest in conjunction with Nettwerk Music Group to find a new theme song.

Canadians will be invited to write and record an original song for Hockey Night in Canada, with fans and a jury of experts to choose the best new composition.

[KingCanuck]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

Hockey = Second Hardest Sport
This is old as hell.


........

http://sports.sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/abc/News/ContentPosting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CBC-SPORTS-V2&showbyline=True&newsitemid=hnic-song


Wont feel the same on TSN...

[Carpathia]

1st BODYBYDANIEL 18 Repped

2nd Andre09 17

3rd oline73 16

4th hockeychick 15 Repped.

5th DRob69 14

Greg1983 14 Repped

TheStack 14 Repped

TheManofSteel 14 Repped

[oline73]

people who still owe me?
colt.45 11
Aries21 12
foxtrot.uniform 11
StewieG 13
paul2121 9
VDubb 13
Carpathia 11
Zkid002 9
JackedAndSwole 7
jjester 9
Haywood Jablome 6
if im wrong let me know

[R2 Seafood]

people who still owe me?
colt.45 11
Aries21 12
foxtrot.uniform 11
StewieG 13
paul2121 9
VDubb 13
Carpathia 11
Zkid002 9
JackedAndSwole 7
jjester 9
Haywood Jablome 6
if im wrong let me know


x2. i think everyone else has hit me.

[StewieG]

1st BODYBYDANIEL - Paid

2nd Andre09 17 - Paid

3rd oline73 16 - Paid

4th hockeychick 15 -

5th DRob69 14 -

Greg1983 14 - Paid

TheStack 14-

TheManofSteel 14 - Paid

Will get the rest after recharge.

[LVI]

the Team 1260 afternoon drive time is strongly pushing the issue of Jason Speeza being traded to Edmonton with Pitkanen being 1 of the major Oilers in return.
I know I have no www source for a link, but has anybody outside of Edmonton hear this rumour? Because that is a huge trade if the Oil could land Speeza.

[BMC1979]

the Team 1260 afternoon drive time is strongly pushing the issue of Jason Speeza being traded to Edmonton with Pitkanen being 1 of the major Oilers in return.
I know I have no www source for a link, but has anybody outside of Edmonton hear this rumour? Because that is a huge trade if the Oil could land Speeza.

Wow, I haven't heard anything about this yet. I agree it'd be huge. Wonder who else they'd package along with Pitkanen?

[LVI]

Wow, I haven't heard anything about this yet. I agree it'd be huge. Wonder who else they'd package along with Pitkanen?

The names were Pitkanen, Smid and possibly Torres.

[harrisjl]

Just about got everybody :D I'll try again this afternoon ;)

[MetFan]

2nd Andre09 17 PAID

3rd oline73 16 PAID

4th hockeychick 15 SPREAD

5th DRob69 14 PAID

Greg1983 14 PAID

TheStack 14 PAID

TheManofSteel 14 PAID

ONLY SANDY LEFT IN HERE.

[Carpathia]

1st BODYBYDANIEL 18 Repped

2nd Andre09 17 Repped

3rd oline73 16 Repped

4th hockeychick 15 Repped

5th DRob69 14 Repped

Greg1983 14 Repped

TheStack 14 Repped

TheManofSteel 14 Repped


I took oline from in the red to 29 rep power in one shot :D

[oline73]

1st BODYBYDANIEL 18 Repped

2nd Andre09 17 Repped

3rd oline73 16 Repped

4th hockeychick 15 Repped

5th DRob69 14 Repped

Greg1983 14 Repped

TheStack 14 Repped

TheManofSteel 14 Repped


I took oline from in the red to 29 rep power in one shot :D

i appreciate it.. i was only -3700, at one point it was around 200k in the red

[BMC1979]

The names were Pitkanen, Smid and possibly Torres.

I don't know about that. Torres I wouldn't mind seeing go and I know you have to give something to get something, but I don't agree with giving up two good young defensemen. I thought Smid really played well last year and, if they have to give up Pitkanen, I'd hate to see him go too. Couldn't they package in someone like Reasoner or Moreau or hell, even try and get Rollie in there somewhere. Now that would be nice.

[MacGyverDel]

1st BODYBYDANIEL 18 (PAID)

2nd Andre09 17 (PAID)

3rd oline73 16 (PAID)

4th hockeychick 15 (PAID)

5th DRob69 14 (PAID)

Greg1983 14 (hit June 5th so a week away)

TheStack 14 (PAID)

TheManofSteel 14 (PAID)



Other than Greg I am done here. But if by chance I did misc you then pm me. :)

[Haywood Jablome]

1st BODYBYDANIEL 18PAID

2nd Andre09 17 PAID

3rd oline73 16 PAID

4th hockeychick 15 - PAID

5th DRob69 14 - PAID

Greg1983 14 - PAID

TheStack 14 PAID

TheManofSteel 14 - PAID





FYI - I will be offline until next wednesday so that is why no one will get anymore from me until then :)
all paid ;)

[LVI]

I don't know about that. Torres I wouldn't mind seeing go and I know you have to give something to get something, but I don't agree with giving up two good young defensemen. I thought Smid really played well last year and, if they have to give up Pitkanen, I'd hate to see him go too. Couldn't they package in someone like Reasoner or Moreau or hell, even try and get Rollie in there somewhere. Now that would be nice.

I agree about Torres. I know my wife would blow a gasket if Torres ever left Edmonton as she is his biggest fan. Problem is would the Sens want a inconsistant player with good potential? BUT, in order to get a top 3 forward i would even look at trading Horcoff in the place of Torres, but then thats a little over kill on the Oilers part.
Well, then TEAM 1260 did say that they are getting this info from a reliable source, and if it does happen it wont be until after July 1st. we'll just have to wait and see.

[harrisjl]

One to go and all debts are paid :D

[LVI]

Three years after the league shut down amid concerns of skyrocketing salaries, the average NHL player is now making more than pre-lockout levels.

Sources tell TSN the average salary for NHL players this season was $1,906,793, an increase of more than 11% over last year ($1,708,607).

Not surprisingly, league revenues have also increased by close to $600 million since the lockout, translating into escalating salaries.

When players returned to the ice for the 2005-06 campaign, the salary cap was set at $39 million. Three short years later, teams were allowed to spend $50.3 million this season, an increase of more than 28% over three seasons. The minimum amount teams were mandated to spend this season was $34.3 million.

Should the salary cap increase this summer, it would be the third straight season team salaries have gone up under the current collective bargaining agreement.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=240324&lid=sublink09&lpos=headlines_nhl#videoyourcallarticle

[bignpisst]

Who have I missed? I lost track who I repped

[Kovalchuk]

Three years after the league shut down amid concerns of skyrocketing salaries, the average NHL player is now making more than pre-lockout levels.

Sources tell TSN the average salary for NHL players this season was $1,906,793, an increase of more than 11% over last year ($1,708,607).

Not surprisingly, league revenues have also increased by close to $600 million since the lockout, translating into escalating salaries.

When players returned to the ice for the 2005-06 campaign, the salary cap was set at $39 million. Three short years later, teams were allowed to spend $50.3 million this season, an increase of more than 28% over three seasons. The minimum amount teams were mandated to spend this season was $34.3 million.

Should the salary cap increase this summer, it would be the third straight season team salaries have gone up under the current collective bargaining agreement.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=240324&lid=sublink09&lpos=headlines_nhl#videoyourcallarticle

Such a fuc*king waste of a season. Unreal. Only in the NHL.

[buresnipes]

anyone get bpp repped yet?

btw, i only owe greg but i gotta spread first

[Greg1983]

anyone get bpp repped yet?

btw, i only owe greg but i gotta spread first

I haven't gotten hit by him. But damn my reps have skyrocketed the last week anyways so I can't complain yet!

[buresnipes]

I haven't gotten hit by him. But damn my reps have skyrocketed the last week anyways so I can't complain yet!

i just looked him up, he hasn't posted since the 9th so he must be away.

[oline73]

i went from really deep in the red, to 100+ rep power because of this rep bet

[KingCanuck]

i went from really deep in the red, to 100+ rep power because of this rep bet

How deep where you?



I still owe Greg and one other dude.

[Tr0ublesome]

Sharks hire Red Wings assistant McLellan

I'm excited. Can't wait to see what chemistry he brings to San Jose.

[Dan O Mac]

Red Wings fans: MOST of your team is a classy bunch, and I'm a huge Yzerman fan, but I had to link this article about Hasek's douche-baggery. Even though it comes from the guy Hasek once choked out because he didn't like a column he wrote, haha.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jim_kelley/06/12/hasek.linden.notes/index.html

[bignpisst]

I was never a big Hasek fan anway

[LVI]

Hasek was an overrated Head case.

[Flex Appeal]

Hasek's douche-baggery.



I was never a big Hasek fan anway


Hasek was an overrated Head case.

Agreed.

[Dan O Mac]

Haha, glad I'm not the only one. No player touches Pronger in terms of my dislike, but Hasek comes the closest.

[bignpisst]

Haha, glad I'm not the only one. No player touches Pronger in terms of my dislike, but Hasek comes the closest.

I was happy as a pig in **** when Hasek got benched for Osgood. I really dont have a dislike for Hasek I just dont care about him. Osgood deserved to play. His statement about winning the cup for Dallas Drake shows what a class act Osgood really is. Hasek is not

[Kovalchuk]

Hasek was an overrated Head case.

Hmmm... definitely not overrated.

While in Buffalo he was the best player in the NHL for about 3 of 6 years. He may have been the best goalie to have ever played the game.

And... all goalies are head cases. That's why they are goalies!

[buresnipes]

Hmmm... definitely not overrated.

While in Buffalo he was the best player in the NHL for about 3 of 6 years. He may have been the best goalie to have ever played the game.

And... all goalies are head cases. That's why they are goalies!

LMFAO

[TheManofSteel]

Marty's Better!

Congrats on the 08 Vezina!

[Greg1983]

LMFAO

I wouldn't say that's a huge stretch. Who knows what his NHL career would have been like if he didn't join the league at 29 or 30. Hasek in his prime is as good as I've ever seen.

[KingCanuck]

I wouldn't say that's a huge stretch. Who knows what his NHL career would have been like if he didn't join the league at 29 or 30. Hasek in his prime is as good as I've ever seen.

x2...


Hasek = best goalie instincts ever

[Kovalchuk]

LMFAO

Dude... Turco isn't that good man.

I think Hasek in his prime was the best goalie ever. Better than Roy and Brodeur but I can't comment on old guys like Plante, Dryden, tretiak etc.

Brodeur has had better longevity at the top of his game, but for dominating in their prime Hasek was more impressive.

Remember, Marty has been protected by a defensive system in New Jersey.

[Dan O Mac]

As a history buff, I'd put Hainsworth, Sawchuk and Hall ahead of Hasek. Speaking contemporary 'keepers, I'd only put Roy ahead of him. Even though I REALLY dislike the dude, I like to think I can be objective about his abilities.

[winthorpe]

Remember, Marty has been protected by a defensive system in New Jersey.
x2

Hasek really didn't have any defense in front of him until joined the Red Wings. Then he gets a Cup right away with said team. He also recorded something like 6 or 7 shutouts in that Cup run. This was all when he was well passed his prime. Never been a fan of his ego, but he was an outstanding goalie for many, many years.

[Dan O Mac]

x2

Hasek really didn't have any defense in front of him until joined the Red Wings. Then he gets a Cup right away with said team. He also recorded something like 6 or 7 shutouts in that Cup run. This was all when he was well passed his prime. Never been a fan of his ego, but he was an outstanding goalie for many, many years.

He was one of those rare goalies that could just decide to not let you beat him, and there's nothing that could be done (see: Nagano Winter Olympics). Roy was the same way, especially with Montreal. Marty is great, but he at least needs some protection.

[LVI]

I think Hasek in his prime was the best goalie ever. Better than Roy and Brodeur but I can't comment on old guys like Plante, Dryden, tretiak etc.

Brodeur has had better longevity at the top of his game, but for dominating in their prime Hasek was more impressive.

Remember, Marty has been protected by a defensive system in New Jersey.

Not even close. Best goalie ever, bar none was Roy, and Brodeur is #2. Throw Fuhr into this argument too if you are stating "marty has been protected by a defensive system in NJ." Remember that Fuhr wasnt even protected in the Oilers scheme back in the 80's. He was left to hang and dry. And still dominated in Net in a time when defense was an enigma.

[winthorpe]

He was one of those rare goalies that could just decide to not let you beat him, and there's nothing that could be done (see: Nagano Winter Olympics). Roy was the same way, especially with Montreal. Marty is great, but he at least needs some protection.
Indeed.

As much as I hate (I'm using the word 'hate' here) Roy, he was, generally speaking, an awesome big game shut-down goalie. Very few teams could get to him in big games. One of the few was Detroit, so that made me happy. But he also had our number almost an equal amount of times. I really like Marty, for he is a very reliable goalie who doesn't have such an ******* ego.

[Dan O Mac]

Indeed.

As much as I hate (I'm using the word 'hate' here) Roy, he was, generally speaking, an awesome big game shut-down goalie. Very few teams could get to him in big games. One of the few was Detroit, so that made me happy. But he also had our number almost an equal amount of times. I really like Marty, for he is a very reliable goalie who doesn't have such an ******* ego.

Agreed on all counts :).

[TheManofSteel]

http://cdn.nhl.com/images/upload/2008/06/612brodeur.jpg

hopefully I'll meet him on Friday at The Rock

[VDubb]

Guys - I have not repped the winners yet, but will start today.........completely forgot about this.........

[Dan O Mac]

I was happy as a pig in **** when Hasek got benched for Osgood. I really dont have a dislike for Hasek I just dont care about him. Osgood deserved to play. His statement about winning the cup for Dallas Drake shows what a class act Osgood really is. Hasek is not

Osgood played really well, probably didn't get enough credit. Just saw a clip of him and Lidstrom on Leno with the cup, seems like a cool guy.

[StewieG]

4th hockeychick 15 - Paid

5th DRob69 14 - Paid

TheStack 14- Paid

There all are now payed.

[buresnipes]

finally repped everyone

[Greg1983]

finally repped everyone

Thanks bud! BPP get back to you yet?

[buresnipes]

Thanks bud! BPP get back to you yet?

no, i sent him another pm tho.

[Dan O Mac]

no, i sent him another pm tho.

Call him out in the deadbeat rep bettor's thread :D.

[buresnipes]

Call him out in the deadbeat rep bettor's thread :D.

hahaha, i donno about that

[VDubb]

Done today:

1st BODYBYDANIEL 18 (PAID)

2nd Andre09 17 (PAID)

3rd oline73 16 (PAID)

4th hockeychick 15 (PAID)

5th DRob69 14 (PAID)



Will get these guys tomorrow or the next day.....

Greg1983 14

TheStack 14

TheManofSteel 14

[Greg1983]

Hey I'm too lazy to do my own research :) so does anyone know which Eastern conference division the Northwest visits next season? NHL.com hasn't posted the schedule but I'm pretty sure they follow a fixed rotation; I just can't remember how it went this year or the year before!

[KingCanuck]

Hey I'm too lazy to do my own research :) so does anyone know which Eastern conference division the Northwest visits next season? NHL.com hasn't posted the schedule but I'm pretty sure they follow a fixed rotation; I just can't remember how it went this year or the year before!

Its not Montreal's divison
Its not Tampa's divison

So I am guessing Pitts/Flyers, etc..

[TheManofSteel]

Hey I'm too lazy to do my own research :) so does anyone know which Eastern conference division the Northwest visits next season? NHL.com hasn't posted the schedule but I'm pretty sure they follow a fixed rotation; I just can't remember how it went this year or the year before!

Isn't every team playing every team this year?

[tizom]

Isn't every team playing every team this year?

that would be sick. i havent heard anything like that, but i would love it

[LVI]

Hey I'm too lazy to do my own research :) so does anyone know which Eastern conference division the Northwest visits next season? NHL.com hasn't posted the schedule but I'm pretty sure they follow a fixed rotation; I just can't remember how it went this year or the year before!

The schedule has changed. every NHL team is playing everybody again. Just like pre lockout.

[Greg1983]

The schedule has changed. every NHL team is playing everybody again. Just like pre lockout.

Oh really? Cool... do you know when the official schedule gets released?

[LVI]

Oh really? Cool... do you know when the official schedule gets released?

Only thing i could find.

http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=19421

[joey joe joe]

Should be a good season, I never understood the reasoning behind that schedule rotation. There were some really good rivalries there that were killed because of it. It was also getting annoying to see the same team 8 times every season. Divisional teams play each other 6 or 7 times now? I can?t remember, but at least it?s changed.

[LVI]

Should be a good season, I never understood the reasoning behind that schedule rotation. There were some really good rivalries there that were killed because of it. It was also getting annoying to see the same team 8 times every season. Divisional teams play each other 6 or 7 times now? I can?t remember, but at least it?s changed.

The whole point of the past schedule was to cut down on east/west travel, and to create good old fashion rivarly's. Unfortunately seeing a team 8x in a regular season, but NOT seeing them in 1st round playoff round doesnt create rivalry's, it creates bordom.
There was nothting better back in the 80's than watching the Oil play the smythe division 8 times, then having to go thru the smythe in the first 2 rounds of the playoffs. Thats what creates rivalry's!

[Dan O Mac]

Apparently there's mutual interest between Yashin and the Islanders on a return :eek:

All they have to do now is sign Jagr and trade for Kovalev, and you have:

The Line That Could Win a Stanley Cup...If We Felt Like It.

So much wasted talent, although at least Jagr only sleep-walked through his Washington years.

[zkid002]

Apparently there's mutual interest between Yashin and the Islanders on a return :eek:

All they have to do now is sign Jagr and trade for Kovalev, and you have:

The Line That Could Win a Stanley Cup...If We Felt Like It.

So much wasted talent, although at least Jagr only sleep-walked through his Washington years.

NO WAY.
Yashin may come back to us?...

Im not sure if I even want him though...

and lol at the Jagr and Kovalev comment...Like wed ever do that...were too big of pussys to spend money...u know that :(

[Dan O Mac]

NO WAY.
Yashin may come back to us?...

Im not sure if I even want him though...

and lol at the Jagr and Kovalev comment...Like wed ever do that...were too big of pussys to spend money...u know that :(

NOT SURE? How 'bout NO. I wouldn't take him for anything more than a mill a season, and considering he can make at least 3 in Russia, he's gonna want more than that.

[zkid002]

NOT SURE? How 'bout NO. I wouldn't take him for anything more than a mill a season, and considering he can make at least 3 in Russia, he's gonna want more than that.

Yeah, he said he wants 4 million, for a 1 year deal, I just read...

I think were going to end up signing him, to about a 3.5 mil deal..

[johnnyD7]

Agreed on all counts :).

While I do like turco, he is a cool guy (watch him with the mic on during the allstar game last year), I'm still not sold on him. He can be GREAT for sure, but he relies on his athleticism. This results in him making some truely great saves, but also in him letting in some goals he shouldn't.

I do enjoy watching him, because if anyone else has notciced the trend, him and brodeur are the last of their kind, every other goalie is a giguere/fluery gigantic chest protector, huge pads, "profly" goalie. Hell even osgood switched to a more modern butterfly (or profly) style. Not that these goalies aren't athletic, it's just he equipment does a significant part of the work, aka the "look what I found" saves



**I guess nabokov is too

[joey joe joe]

NOT SURE? How 'bout NO. I wouldn't take him for anything more than a mill a season, and considering he can make at least 3 in Russia, he's gonna want more than that.

I thought the same about Antropov a couple seasons ago, but he's still here. :( Played better last year, but it's still Antropov.

Yashin isn't worth the hassle. $3.5 mil?? That's nuts.

[BMC1979]

This could be an interesting offseason. Think there could be a few big players moving around as teams try and shake things up after falling short. This means you Oilers!

As far as Yashin coming back, like was already said, I think for the level he can still play at, he'll be overpriced. The only way I can see him coming back at any sort of discount is, as many players before him have done, if he feels like he has a chance at a cup. Even then he's probably not worth it.

[Rexy]

Draft on Friday...We have the 11th pick, and from the looks of things, will grab Kyle Beach (Can't believe he has dropped so much!)

[zkid002]

Draft on Friday...We have the 11th pick, and from the looks of things, will grab Kyle Beach (Can't believe he has dropped so much!)

Is that a JOKE? Why has he dropped so much?

[Rexy]

Is that a JOKE? Why has he dropped so much?

the second half of his season was awful, and scouts are scared he has concussion problems.

scared that he might get added to an already huge list of Blackhawk talent?

[joey joe joe]

the second half of his season was awful, and scouts are scared he has concussion problems.

scared that he might get added to an already huge list of Blackhawk talent?

The Blackhawks are going to be a great team to watch for the next few years. They?ve done a great job with their young picks.

[zkid002]

the second half of his season was awful, and scouts are scared he has concussion problems.

scared that he might get added to an already huge list of Blackhawk talent?

Lol,I guess so. Hes a very very solid player, I think the scouts ought to think twice about being scared, cuz hes goona be a great player.


The Blackhawks are going to be a great team to watch for the next few years. They?ve done a great job with their young picks.

X2...With players like Toews, and Kane, and now possibly Beach, theyre goona be a playoff factor, and a strong team.

[Rexy]

Lol,I guess so. Hes a very very solid player, I think the scouts ought to think twice about being scared, cuz hes goona be a great player.



X2...With players like Toews, and Kane, and now possibly Beach, theyre goona be a playoff factor, and a strong team.

dont forget Duncan Keith, Brett Seabrook and Cam Barker too!

Beach had 2 concussions last season, so I can understand the scouts being scared of drafting Eric Lindros Jr.

[KingCanuck]

dont forget Duncan Keith, Brett Seabrook and Cam Barker too!

Beach had 2 concussions last season, so I can understand the scouts being scared of drafting Eric Lindros Jr.

Byuegyien as well

[joey joe joe]

Byuegyien as well

X100!! I gotta remember that guy when I?m drafting my fantasy pools for next season. Do you think Khabiboulin still has it in him to make a decent playoff run?

[Rexy]

X100!! I gotta remember that guy when I?m drafting my fantasy pools for next season. Do you think Khabiboulin still has it in him to make a decent playoff run?

he always does. Khabi has been like this his entire career...streaky and somewhat unreliable in the season, but if you get him into the playoffs, he will stand on his head EVERY GAME

proof

Reg Season - 2.69GAA .908 SV%

Playoffs - 2.27GAA .922SV%

Byfuglien will be a great pick in the later rounds of your fantasy pools, but you heard it hear first...remember this name


Cam Barker. He will be our PP guy next season. He only played about 40 games last season, and scored 6 goals. He has a rocket for a shot! Trust me!!

But if you don't think a 22 year old defensemen with a shot like his will improve (lol) don't pick him.

[MetFan]

Finally got everyone in here. Spreading sometimes is a bitch.:D

[zkid002]

Finally got everyone in here. Spreading sometimes is a bitch.:D

What are you talking about? You didnt get me...;)..lol, just plain..

Rexy, WOW...how could I forget quality players like that as well!..Seabrook, n Keith, etc.

the only thing you dont have thats young, is a Goaltender.

[BMC1979]

Congrats to the both of them. What I found interesting were some of the ones who didn't make it in,.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=3449778

[Kovalchuk]

Thrashers get the third pick overall this year.

They might be able to sneak in and get the best player in the draft... Nikita Filatov due to lack of a transfer agreement. I'll keep my fingers crossed!

[Rexy]

What are you talking about? You didnt get me...;)..lol, just plain..

Rexy, WOW...how could I forget quality players like that as well!..Seabrook, n Keith, etc.

the only thing you dont have thats young, is a Goaltender.

Corey Crawford will make the team next year

also, the goaltender for the Kitchener Rangers, runner up for the Mem. Cup is a Blackhawks prospect.

[VDubb]

Rep'd today:

Greg1983 14

TheStack 14

TheManofSteel 14


Congrats to the winners.....

[BMC1979]

Hope Katz does some good for the Oilers.


NHL board unanimously approves Oilers, Lightning sales

NEW YORK -- The NHL board of governors has unanimously approved the sale of the Edmonton Oilers to Canadian billionaire Daryl Katz, and the purchase of the Tampa Bay Lightning by a group of investors led by Oren Koules and Len Barrie.

Both deals were approved Wednesday at the board of governors meeting in New York.

Katz, the owner of the Rexall Drug Store chain, agreed in February to buy 100 percent of shares owned by the 34-member Edmonton Investors Group for nearly $200 million. He offered to pay about $22,000 for each of the 7,492 shares -- a deal that represented twice the original purchase price.

[bignpisst]

I think I paid everyone, if not let me know

[zkid002]

I think I paid everyone, if not let me know

Right here... :confused:

[KingCanuck]

My wishlist with the #10 pick:

1. Kyle Beech (potential to be next best power forward in the league)
2. Cody Hodgeson
3. Wilson

[Rexy]

My wishlist with the #10 pick:

1. Kyle Beech (potential to be next best power forward in the league)
2. Cody Hodgeson
3. Wilson

Im thinking that Van will be getting a defensemen to try to make up for the loss of Boulerice

ill take Beech

[LVI]

It appears as though the NHL buyout season has begun, leaving two underachieving goaltenders to look for new homes.

Goaltenders Ray Emery and Dan Cloutier have been put on waivers, the first step that must be taken to buy them out.

If not claimed by anyone, the respective teams can then proceed with the buyout..........

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241222&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_nhl

[LVI]

Sources tell TSN the Toronto Maple Leafs are trying to encourage Mats Sundin to decide his playing future before July 1.

In the past 24 hours the Montreal Canadiens were granted persmission by the Maple Leafs to speak to Sundin's agent about the possibility of the 37-year-old signing in Montreal.

The Leafs would have to trade Sundin's negotiating rights to the Canadiens to facilitate an early signing........

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241233&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_nhl

[TheManofSteel]

the local paper here said that the Devils will be looking for a goalie to replace Brodeur when he is ready to retire... gives the n00b some time to develop with Lowell when Marty is ready-

[Aries21]

Emery most likely to the kings, la would suit him.

[Rexy]

I think that any team should take a chance on Emery. He is a great young goalie, who took all of the blame last season and didn't deserve to

[TheStack]

Tanguay to Montreal! With Sundin, we are stacked and ready to repeat as the east champs this year!

[Greg1983]

Tanguay to Montreal! With Sundin, we are stacked and ready to repeat as the east champs this year!

Not sure how I feel about that trade. I've wanted the Flames to get Jokinen for years and, seeing what he went for, we could have put together a better package including Tanguay. But whatever, we needed a change and we got one.

[TheStack]

Not sure how I feel about that trade. I've wanted the Flames to get Jokinen for years and, seeing what he went for, we could have put together a better package including Tanguay. But whatever, we needed a change and we got one.

I agree. But you guys got Cammaleri, he's a very good player and will play with iginla.

[KingCanuck]

Not sure how I feel about that trade. I've wanted the Flames to get Jokinen for years and, seeing what he went for, we could have put together a better package including Tanguay. But whatever, we needed a change and we got one.

Except the Panthers wouldn't want Tanguay.


LOL @ Pierre Mcquire almost having an orgasm on live TV over the Leafs picking Luke Schenn.

[KingCanuck]

My wishlist with the #10 pick:

1. Kyle Beech (potential to be next best power forward in the league)
2. Cody Hodgeson
3. Wilson

Nice!

I love the fact that we got Hogson!

[Dan O Mac]

Schenn is exactly what we need! The next Adam Foote or Dion Phaneuf, we haven't had that type of defenceman in years! His offensive game is raw, just like they said about Phaneuf when he was drafted, but he's gonna be an elite shutdown guy for years.

Steep F'ing price for RJ Umberger for the BJ's to pay. After drafting Filatov they are set for young forwards pretty much, and should have kept the pick to draft a d-man since they'll be losing Hainsey. 19th overall in one of the deepest drafts of all-time > than RJ Umberger. He's a good player, but a 2nd liner AT BEST.

Schenn's younger bro Brayden is expected to be a top 5 pick next year, maybe the Leafs can grab him too (he's a sniper) :D

[R2 Seafood]

Schenn is exactly what we need! The next Adam Foote or Dion Phaneuf, we haven't had that type of defenceman in years! His offensive game is raw, just like they said about Phaneuf when he was drafted, but he's gonna be an elite shutdown guy for years.

Steep F'ing price for RJ Umberger for the BJ's to pay. After drafting Filatov they are set for young forwards pretty much, and should have kept the pick to draft a d-man since they'll be losing Hainsey. 19th overall in one of the deepest drafts of all-time > than RJ Umberger. He's a good player, but a 2nd liner AT BEST.

Schenn's younger bro Brayden is expected to be a top 5 pick next year, maybe the Leafs can grab him too (he's a sniper) :D

I have a feeling that Stralman is going to become an elite defenceman as well. Once Stralman gains some more confidence he could become like another Kaberle.

The only thing I don't like about the Leafs is their lack of depth offensively. I mean, if Sundin is gone, who's going to be our top scorer? Antropov? Blake?

[Dan O Mac]

I have a feeling that Stralman is going to become an elite defenceman as well. Once Stralman gains some more confidence he could become like another Kaberle.

The only thing I don't like about the Leafs is their lack of depth offensively. I mean, if Sundin is gone, who's going to be our top scorer? Antropov? Blake?

That's where the completely sucking for a year comes in so we can draft Tavares ;).

[KingCanuck]

That's where the completely sucking for a year comes in so we can draft Tavares ;).

And set everything up for Burkie.

[oline73]

i'm so pissed that umberger is goine.

[Kovalchuk]

I think that any team should take a chance on Emery. He is a great young goalie, who took all of the blame last season and didn't deserve to

Tell me you're joking???

He was never been good... even when Ottawa went to the finals he was the worst player on the team. He had like the 6th best SV% in the playoffs that year... yet still his team got him to the finals.

He is terribly slow laterally. He has horrendous rebound control. He is a distraction in the dressing room. He fails and will be out of the NHL within 3 years, no doubt about it.

[Rexy]

Tell me you're joking???

He was never been good... even when Ottawa went to the finals he was the worst player on the team. He had like the 6th best SV% in the playoffs that year... yet still his team got him to the finals.

He is terribly slow laterally. He has horrendous rebound control. He is a distraction in the dressing room. He fails and will be out of the NHL within 3 years, no doubt about it.

he is 23-24 years old also.

and watching him in the cup finals, him and Alfy were the only Sens to show up.

[Rexy]

Schenn is exactly what we need! The next Adam Foote or Dion Phaneuf, we haven't had that type of defenceman in years! His offensive game is raw, just like they said about Phaneuf when he was drafted, but he's gonna be an elite shutdown guy for years.:D

Schenn is purely a Defensive Defensemen. Don't compare him to Foote or Phaneuf. A proper comparison would be a big Jason Smith (who you guys traded for nothing, remember?)

[CLEAN_SET_OF_10]

sundin to the habs wtf?

[Cuz Ripped]

sundin to the habs wtf?

As a leafs fan I love Sundin and everything he has done for us, but if he goes to the goddamn habs I will hate him forever.

[Dan O Mac]

And set everything up for Burkie.

Exactly ;). See his interview with Landsberg on OTR? When he was asked about the Leafs job his face went so red I thought steam was gonna start coming out of his ears :D.

i'm so pissed that umberger is goine.

You guys got a lot for him though, more than Calgary got for Tanguay, a more estaqblished player.


Schenn is purely a Defensive Defensemen. Don't compare him to Foote or Phaneuf. A proper comparison would be a big Jason Smith (who you guys traded for nothing, remember?)

Yeah because 17 year olds don't develop AT ALL after they're drafted :rolleyes:. Look at Phaneuf's point total from his draft year: 30, 2 more than Schenn in 14 more games, and scouts were not talking about his offensive upside at all. Plus I guarantee you I've seen Schenn play a lot more than you have, I'm a prospects junkie pretty much, so your smugness is pretty misplaced.

[Rexy]

Yeah because 17 year olds don't develop AT ALL after they're drafted :rolleyes:. Look at Phaneuf's point total from his draft year: 30, 2 more than Schenn in 14 more games, and scouts were not talking about his offensive upside at all. Plus I guarantee you I've seen Schenn play a lot more than you have, I'm a prospects junkie pretty much, so your smugness is pretty misplaced.

Luke Schenn had 7 goals last season, The year Dion was drafted he had 16. Thats more then double. Schenn had more assists, but as you know if you have played hockey, Defensemen rack up secondary assists...especially if they are on a good team, and on the powerplay.

Your obviously don't SEEM to be a prospects junkie, more like a Leafs fan who likes to make big comparisons, but I won't be hard on you.

and Prospects develop after they are drafted, but they don't turn into different players. he will get better defensively, but he won't be a high scoring defensemen like Phaneuf.

[Dan O Mac]

Luke Schenn had 7 goals last season, The year Dion was drafted he had 16. Thats more then double. Schenn had more assists, but as you know if you have played hockey, Defensemen rack up secondary assists...especially if they are on a good team, and on the powerplay.

Your obviously don't SEEM to be a prospects junkie, more like a Leafs fan who likes to make big comparisons, but I won't be hard on you.

and Prospects develop after they are drafted, but they don't turn into different players. he will get better defensively, but he won't be a high scoring defensemen like Phaneuf.

First of all you don't know me, so don't make any assumptions about me; I've been playing hockey my whole life. Playing defence has taught me that assists are often racked up that aren't secondary, such as a shot from the point that is tipped or knocked in for a rebound, or a great outlet pass from your own zone. That says a lot more about hockey sense than simply having a great shot. And a point is a point after all.

Second, maybe you should be less narrow-minded. It's obvious you formed an opinion of me from the beginning based on my being a Leafs fan; generalizations are a strong indication of a lack of higher-level cognitive ability. Also, look back and actually read my original post. You'll notice I compared Schenn to both Dion and Adam Foote, suggesting I see his upside as somewhere in between; rock-solid defensively, yet able to put up a few more points than Foote, although not a PP QB type like Phaneuf. But given the aforementioned stereotyping tendencies you've exhibited, you made ASSUMPTIONS on what I meant rather than asking for clarification. Check the attitude next time.

[Rexy]

First of all you don't know me, so don't make any assumptions about me; I've been playing hockey my whole life. Playing defence has taught me that assists are often racked up that aren't secondary, such as a shot from the point that is tipped or knocked in for a rebound, or a great outlet pass from your own zone. That says a lot more about hockey sense than simply having a great shot. And a point is a point after all.

Second, maybe you should be less narrow-minded. It's obvious you formed an opinion of me from the beginning based on my being a Leafs fan; generalizations are a strong indication of a lack of higher-level cognitive ability. Also, look back and actually read my original post. You'll notice I compared Schenn to both Dion and Adam Foote, suggesting I see his upside as somewhere in between; rock-solid defensively, yet able to put up a few more points than Foote, although not a PP QB type like Phaneuf. But given the aforementioned stereotyping tendencies you've exhibited, you made ASSUMPTIONS on what I meant rather than asking for clarification. Check the attitude next time.

And I don't think there was any problem with my original statement of saying that comparing him to the two of them is a little far off, especially for someone who hasn't played a minute in the NHL. I think the Jason Smith comparison is the most likely though, and you would be lucky enough to have him pan out that well. And can the lecture, your the one who got all high and mighty on me. I don't have to know you to judge from your posts that your a typical Leafs fanboy...grew up around you people all my life.

oh...and maybe Brian Burke's face went read in the OTR interview because he is sick and tired of being asked if he is going to Toronto...just a thought.

[Dan O Mac]

And I don't think there was any problem with my original statement of saying that comparing him to the two of them is a little far off, especially for someone who hasn't played a minute in the NHL. I think the Jason Smith comparison is the most likely though, and you would be lucky enough to have him pan out that well. And can the lecture, your the one who got all high and mighty on me. I don't have to know you to judge from your posts that your a typical Leafs fanboy...grew up around you people all my life.

oh...and maybe Brian Burke's face went read in the OTR interview because he is sick and tired of being asked if he is going to Toronto...just a thought.

Fact is, it could go either way; no one knows. With your original reply, I detected some preaching. Things can be misconstrued when they're written, and if that wasn't your intent, then I'll admit I was wrong about you. However it is troubling that you automatically categorize Leaf fans, and I'm not going to try to change your assessment of me, because frankly I don't care. This has gone far enough, and I think we should just agree to disagree.

[MetFan]

Fact is, it could go either way; no one knows. With your original reply, I detected some preaching. Things can be misconstrued when they're written, and if that wasn't your intent, then I'll admit I was wrong about you. However it is troubling that you automatically categorize Leaf fans, and I'm not going to try to change your assessment of me, because frankly I don't care. This has gone far enough, and I think we should just agree to disagree.

It does not matter what other think of the Leafs. Trading up and taking Schenn is a step in the right direction.

We have been sorely lacking in a hitting defenseman for a very long time.

When players skate into our zone, they have no fear of getting smoked, now they will have something to think about coming in and that is a small step in gaining credibility.

Hopefully the Leafs make some more similar moves and build a decent team and with Wilson as coach, there will be accountability, something else we have not had since the Pat Burns days.

[Dan O Mac]

It does not matter what other think of the Leafs. Trading up and taking Schenn is a step in the right direction.

We have been sorely lacking in a hitting defenseman for a very long time.

When players skate into our zone, they have no fear of getting smoked, now they will have something to think about coming in and that is a small step in gaining credibility.

Hopefully the Leafs make some more similar moves and build a decent team and with Wilson as coach, there will be accountability, something else we have not had since the Pat Burns days.

Yeah man, for sure. This is the first star-potential prospect we've had in a while. It's time to change the country-club atmosphere around the team, and Wilson is a good guy to do so. Hiring Coates as player personel director was a great move too, look what he's done for the Ducks. Cliff's doing a great job keeping the seat warm for whoever we get next (hopefully Burkie).

I'm willing to be patient through a full rebuild, as long as it's done right. And in the new NHL, it can be done in much shorter time than before. Good to see this club headed back in the right direction. Most of their draft picks on the 2nd day are high-ceiling guys, so the farm system is getting some much-needed depth.

I'm excited to see Kulemin come over this coming season too, he was Malkin's linemate in Russia and has some serious offensive potential.

[MetFan]

Yeah man, for sure. This is the first star-potential prospect we've had in a while. It's time to change the country-club atmosphere around the team, and Wilson is a good guy to do so. Hiring Coates as player personel director was a great move too, look what he's done for the Ducks. Cliff's doing a great job keeping the seat warm for whoever we get next (hopefully Burkie).

I'm willing to be patient through a full rebuild, as long as it's done right. And in the new NHL, it can be done in much shorter time than before. Good to see this club headed back in the right direction. Most of their draft picks on the 2nd day are high-ceiling guys, so the farm system is getting some much-needed depth.

I'm excited to see Kulemin come over this coming season too, he was Malkin's linemate in Russia and has some serious offensive potential.

Hey we can only go up from where we are now, so as long as the team keeps making improvements, I will OK with losing more than we win because in due time, it will be the opposite if things are done correctly.

Look at Tampa, with all that talent I am sure they did not expect to finish last. But they did and now they have Stamkos who is a serious player, now if we can finish near the bottom and get Tavares, well that would be insane but unlikely.

Whatever happens, nice to see us finally trying to build something significant.

[Rexy]

there is no debating that Schenn was a good pick, I think Filatov would have fixed your needs while Sundin is playing with Koivu and Kovalev, but you can snatch Tavares with the 2nd overall pick next year (Victor Hedman should go first) I just hear alot of Leafs fans jump to huge conclussions whenever you get a player, and I guess I assumed you were too (Jiri Tlusty = Jarmoir Jagr...christ!)

[TheStack]

there is no debating that Schenn was a good pick, I think Filatov would have fixed your needs while Sundin is playing with Koivu and Kovalev, but you can snatch Tavares with the 2nd overall pick next year (Victor Hedman should go first) I just hear alot of Leafs fans jump to huge conclussions whenever you get a player, and I guess I assumed you were too (Jiri Tlusty = Jarmoir Jagr...christ!)

There is no question that the leafs will stay in the basement for a while, if they draft well they can be a playoff team again in 3-4 years. It will be interesting to see.

[MetFan]

There is no question that the leafs will stay in the basement for a while, if they draft well they can be a playoff team again in 3-4 years. It will be interesting to see.

Which will be welcome sight condering that in my 35 years they have NEVER built a team through the draft.

Free agancy is a good thing if you have a nucleus already but to have young guys play with each other for 2-3 brings chemistry, again something the Leafs have not had since 2002.

Schenn is a cornerstone upon which to build a team around. As Dan O Mac has said, he has the ability to be an Adam Foote, Dion Phaneif type player where they can dominate a game based on their physical play.

[Dan O Mac]

Which will be welcome sight condering that in my 35 years they have NEVER built a team through the draft.

Free agancy is a good thing if you have a nucleus already but to have young guys play with each other for 2-3 brings chemistry, again something the Leafs have not had since 2002.

Schenn is a cornerstone upon which to build a team around. As Dan O Mac has said, he has the ability to be an Adam Foote, Dion Phaneif type player where they can dominate a game based on their physical play.

Exactly. With the few first-rounders we have kept in the last few years, we've done pretty well for the slot they were at: Steen, Boyes, Tlusty all great picks considering who was taken shortly after them.

This year's day 2 picks are promising as well, especially Hayes and Stefanovich. Both were considered top-10 talents until midseason, but dropped because of injuries in Hayes' case. Stefanovich still scored 30 goals, but had trouble adjusting to life away from Belarus according to a couple scouts I've talked to, so homesickness could have affected his play.

But that's exactly what we need right now, high-end skill in the system. We have enough guys on the roster and the farm to fill out 2 3rd and 4th lines each, but top-sixers are lacking, so I'm okay with picking boom or bust types. And Hayes is 6'4 with excellent hands; he's going to college next year and it'll be interesting to see what he can do if he stays healthy.

[Rexy]

never thought I would ever say that I was jealous of some of the Leafs draft picks lmao!

I was jumping for joy when we got Kyle Beach in the first round though...we didn't have a second pick, but in the third round we picked up Shawn Lalonde who was actually expected to go late in the first round.

I love when players drop for us! Same happened last season with Akim Aliu :)

[TheStack]

So who is the favorite team to get Tavares? Leafs, Kings or Columbus?

[MetFan]

So who is the favorite team to get Tavares? Leafs, Kings or Columbus?

Either Leafs or Kings. Columbus just picked up R.J Umberger to go along with Nash & Zherdev so I am guessing they want to finish better than they did this year.

[Rexy]

the consensus as of now is Tavares will go #2 in the draft behind Headmen. You may have a better chance to get him then u think.

dont rule out Atlanta being THAT BAD though

[Kovalchuk]

the consensus as of now is Tavares will go #2 in the draft behind Headmen. You may have a better chance to get him then u think.

dont rule out Atlanta being THAT BAD though

Leave ATL alone... the Southeast division is up for grabs every year.

Tavares will definitely go #1, he scores goals and you can't teach that.

Hedman is just a freaky tall lanky Swede... his stock will continue to fall especially after the WJHC this year. He is not Lidstrom... and he is deifinitely not Chara.

[Riffo]

So who is the favorite team to get Tavares? Leafs, Kings or Columbus?

Florida, Atlanta, Montreal, Toronto, St-Louis will all suck

[Rexy]

Florida, Atlanta, Montreal, Toronto, St-Louis will all suck

you are no longer to be taken seriously

[Rexy]

Leave ATL alone... the Southeast division is up for grabs every year.

Tavares will definitely go #1, he scores goals and you can't teach that.

Hedman is just a freaky tall lanky Swede... his stock will continue to fall especially after the WJHC this year. He is not Lidstrom... and he is deifinitely not Chara.

SE is up for grabs, but they finished 3rd in a crap division last season, and won't have Hossa for 60 games THIS season. Just doing the math. Washington is a lock to win the SE now for a long time.

now I think Tavares's stalk is more likely to drop...his goals droped by THIRTY last season! the kid ran out of gas, and thats probably the reason they were rushing him to get drafted last season.

[Dan O Mac]

A lot of publications have Hedman ahead of Tavares right now, but IMO it's more because of familiarity leading to them putting him under a microscope. Tavares played in the summit series, the world juniors, and had a long run with Oshawa, he likely did run out of gas. Remember, we are talking about a 17 year old here, not a peak-conditioned man. In the CHL, they do a lot of fast-food stops as they travel by bus, and play a lot of back-to-backs since it's primarily a weekend league due to school.

Tavares dropped in goals, but he still had the best PPG in the CHL and became a much more well-rounded player. Plus, no matter how driven you are, complacency will set in when you've accomplished as much as he has and knows he's locked in to the same league for another year. I think he tears it up next season and re-establishes himself as #1.

Hedman is being called the "Swedish Pronger," and could go #1. But he's not scouted as often, and therefore it's harder to pick out his flaws. Plus, teams always get over-excited about guys his size that have that kind of skillset. He wasn't that impressive at the WJC, but he's for sure a top-drawer talent.

It could go either way, but objectively, I really do think Tavares will go first. He's just a special talent.

[TheStack]

Florida, Atlanta, Montreal, Toronto, St-Louis will all suck

I loled, as Montreal is one of the favorite to win the east...

[MetFan]

I loled, as Montreal is one of the favorite to win the east...

Hard to see Montreal sucking next year if they lock up Sundin.

Imagine Kovalev and Sundin on the PP. Montreal had a sick PP last year, think of what Sundin will bring to that team in the form of leadership and potential points.

[Rexy]

A lot of publications have Hedman ahead of Tavares right now, but IMO it's more because of familiarity leading to them putting him under a microscope. Tavares played in the summit series, the world juniors, and had a long run with Oshawa, he likely did run out of gas. Remember, we are talking about a 17 year old here, not a peak-conditioned man. In the CHL, they do a lot of fast-food stops as they travel by bus, and play a lot of back-to-backs since it's primarily a weekend league due to school.

Tavares dropped in goals, but he still had the best PPG in the CHL and became a much more well-rounded player. Plus, no matter how driven you are, complacency will set in when you've accomplished as much as he has and knows he's locked in to the same league for another year. I think he tears it up next season and re-establishes himself as #1.

Hedman is being called the "Swedish Pronger," and could go #1. But he's not scouted as often, and therefore it's harder to pick out his flaws. Plus, teams always get over-excited about guys his size that have that kind of skillset. He wasn't that impressive at the WJC, but he's for sure a top-drawer talent.

It could go either way, but objectively, I really do think Tavares will go first. He's just a special talent.

Don't be surprised with the amount of scouting in Sweden right now Dan. Its not the 90's anymore where you can draft a Pavel Bure in the 4th round, the scouting is just as big down there as it has ever been. Hedman isn't just praised because of his size too, the kid has been playing in the Swedish Elite League with grown men since he was 14. Thats huge because it shows scouts that he can jump in and make a huge impact immediately. Tavares can score goals, but his skating is still quite suspect IMO.

[Rexy]

Hard to see Montreal sucking next year if they lock up Sundin.

Imagine Kovalev and Sundin on the PP. Montreal had a sick PP last year, think of what Sundin will bring to that team in the form of leadership and potential points.

even if Sundin doesn't go there, they just added Tanguay for nothing! its the same team as last year, but all the youth is a year older and a year better, and now they have Tanguay...damn

They will most likely win the East. Carey Price is scary good (wish he dropped to 7th that draft year, and not snatched at 5th!)

[LVI]

All winners have finally been paid off.

[Rexy]

I would like some reps...

[Dan O Mac]

Don't be surprised with the amount of scouting in Sweden right now Dan. Its not the 90's anymore where you can draft a Pavel Bure in the 4th round, the scouting is just as big down there as it has ever been. Hedman isn't just praised because of his size too, the kid has been playing in the Swedish Elite League with grown men since he was 14. Thats huge because it shows scouts that he can jump in and make a huge impact immediately. Tavares can score goals, but his skating is still quite suspect IMO.

No doubt it's improved, but most teams still only have one or two scouts for all of Europe, as opposed to an entire team for one region of Canada. This is why guys like Stralman (taken in the 200's in 2005 and considered to have top-pairing potential) continue to slip through the cracks.

Hedman is a top-level prospect and could very well go #1, but I just feel Tavares is a really special player. You're right about his skating, it'll just be average at the NHL level and never a strength. But his extremely rare ice vision and hockey sense make up for it in spades. Gretzky was never considered a good skater and, more recently, Spezza and brad Richards are considered average skaters and it hasn't hindered them. With Tavares, familiarity breeds nit-picking, and he just has a knack for scoring goals that can't be taught. The puck seems to follow great players around, and the same can be said for him.

[LVI]

ESPN.com news services

Updated: June 25, 2008, 1:17 PM ET

The Tampa Bay Lightning and their All-Star center, Vincent Lecavalier, have agreed to terms on a nine-year deal that likely will ensure he finishes his career with the team, according to Canadian media reports Wednesday.

TSN of Canada is reporting the contract extension is worth $77 million. The Canadian Press is reporting that according to a source close to the negotiations, the deal is worth between $75 million and $80 million......

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3460314

Huge

[Kovalchuk]

Ottawa got rid of McGrattan... about time the guys is a waste of a roster spot.

To Phoenix for a 5th rounder... Phoenix got ripped off.

[Greg1983]

ESPN.com news services

Updated: June 25, 2008, 1:17 PM ET

The Tampa Bay Lightning and their All-Star center, Vincent Lecavalier, have agreed to terms on a nine-year deal that likely will ensure he finishes his career with the team, according to Canadian media reports Wednesday.

TSN of Canada is reporting the contract extension is worth $77 million. The Canadian Press is reporting that according to a source close to the negotiations, the deal is worth between $75 million and $80 million......

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3460314

Huge

Wow. Assuming he doesn't run into major injury problems, that's a steal for TB. Although there's always a ton of risk when it comes to long contracts like that.

[Dan O Mac]

ESPN.com news services

Updated: June 25, 2008, 1:17 PM ET

The Tampa Bay Lightning and their All-Star center, Vincent Lecavalier, have agreed to terms on a nine-year deal that likely will ensure he finishes his career with the team, according to Canadian media reports Wednesday.

TSN of Canada is reporting the contract extension is worth $77 million. The Canadian Press is reporting that according to a source close to the negotiations, the deal is worth between $75 million and $80 million......

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3460314

Huge

Sorry Habs fans :p

Leafs buy out Tucker, waive Wellwood and Raycroft. Bob McKenzie said he was surprised about the Tucker buyout, he still is a good player. The problem was the length of his contract; he won't sustain that level of play for that long with his small stature. Should be lots of interested suitors though.

The Canucks claimed Wellwood. He's an absolute wizard with the puck, but his motivation and conditioning are among the worst in the NHL. It's gonna take a HUGE kick in the ass to get him going, but maybe getting waived will wake him up a bit.

Speaking of ass-kicking, I give you Luke Schenn (sorry don't know how to embed):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFrhI...eature=related

[LVI]

Sorry Habs fans :p

Leafs buy out Tucker, waive Wellwood and Raycroft. Bob McKenzie said he was surprised about the Tucker buyout, he still is a good player. The problem was the length of his contract; he won't sustain that level of play for that long with his small stature. Should be lots of interested suitors though.

The Canucks claimed Wellwood. He's an absolute wizard with the puck, but his motivation and conditioning are among the worst in the NHL. It's gonna take a HUGE kick in the ass to get him going, but maybe getting waived will wake him up a bit.

Speaking of ass-kicking, I give you Luke Schenn (sorry don't know how to embed):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFrhI...eature=related

Watch Tucker sign as an Oiler or Flame

[Greg1983]

Watch Tucker sign as an Oiler or Flame

I'd gladly take Tucker on the Flames. Depending on the price, of course.

[LVI]

I'd gladly take Tucker on the Flames. Depending on the price, of course.

No more than 3 mil

[Rexy]

Sorry Habs fans :p
The Canucks claimed Wellwood. He's an absolute wizard with the puck, but his motivation and conditioning are among the worst in the NHL. It's gonna take a HUGE kick in the ass to get him going, but maybe getting waived will wake him up a bit.


Players like Wellwood don't wake up. He is lazy. His conditioning is terrible, a professional athlete should not look like THIS

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1306/n5033381275650219290vl6.jpg

[Greg1983]

No more than 3 mil

Yeah 2-3 sounds about right for a player of Tucker's calibre.

[Rexy]

Yeah 2-3 sounds about right for a player of Tucker's calibre.

a third line grinder who is terrible in his own end? 3 is a major stretch...I wouldn't take him for 2

[Greg1983]

a third line grinder who is terrible in his own end? 3 is a major stretch...I wouldn't take him for 2

The guy's goal scoring ability is severely underrated (unless you're in Toronto, in which case it's severely overrated).

[Rexy]

The guy's goal scoring ability is severely underrated (unless you're in Toronto, in which case it's severely overrated).

the guy gets 80% of his goals on the 5 on 3 by standing by the open side of the net for 2 minutes and hoping someone passes to him.

(and yes, I'm in Toronto)

[Dan O Mac]

Players like Wellwood don't wake up. He is lazy. His conditioning is terrible, a professional athlete should not look like THIS

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1306/n5033381275650219290vl6.jpg

LOL. I saw that pic on another forum; he should be ashamed of himself.


The guy's goal scoring ability is severely underrated (unless you're in Toronto, in which case it's severely overrated).

Like 80% of his goals come on the PP, but 5 on 5 he's not much offensively. One of the better guys to have on your team in the playoffs though.

[MetFan]

LOL. I saw that pic on another forum; he should be ashamed of himself.


LOL, we train our asses off to link up to chicks like that, and Wellwood let's himself go to **** and look at what he has lined up for himself.

Absolutely brutal. The lights must have to be off for her.:D

[Dan O Mac]

LOL, we train our asses off to link up to chicks like that, and Wellwood let's himself go to **** and look at what he has lined up for himself.

Absolutely brutal. The lights must have to be off for her.:D

Haha, so true! It's all about the money and fame. I mean, Elisha Cuthbert and Avery and Phaneuf AND Comrie? She may as well get an NHL logo tatted on her vag.

[Rexy]

Haha, so true! It's all about the money and fame. I mean, Elisha Cuthbert and Avery and Phaneuf AND Comrie? She may as well get an NHL logo tatted on her vag.

Comrie is with Hilary Duff, not Cuthbert.


but speaking of Avery, I hope he comes to Chicago this summer...anyone hear about Scotty Bowman going to Chicago?

[Dan O Mac]

Comrie is with Hilary Duff, not Cuthbert.


but speaking of Avery, I hope he comes to Chicago this summer...anyone hear about Scotty Bowman going to Chicago?

Dated Cuthbert before Duff. Bowman's categorically denied the rumour.

[KingCanuck]

Wellwood is a good pickup as long as hes the 4th line Center.

[Rexy]

Dated Cuthbert before Duff. Bowman's categorically denied the rumour.

actually, he didn't. he down played it. And fact is, his son is our Assistant GM.

speaking of categorically denying rumors though, why do Leafs fans still think Brian Burke is coming to Toronto, yet I bring up Bowman, and its shot down for being downplayed lol.

[KingCanuck]

actually, he didn't. he down played it. And fact is, his son is our Assistant GM.

speaking of categorically denying rumors though, why do Leafs fans still think Brian Burke is coming to Toronto, yet I bring up Bowman, and its shot down for being downplayed lol.

Burke is coming to T.O. no doubt. But hes not going to do **** with the Leafs cause they don't got any trade bait, Burke isn't the type of guy who can build a team from scratch, you need some bargaining chips for him to be effective.

[Rexy]

Burke is coming to T.O. no doubt. But hes not going to do **** with the Leafs cause they don't got any trade bait, Burke isn't the type of guy who can build a team from scratch, you need some bargaining chips for him to be effective.

Burke is not a good GM IMO. The Burtuzzi move (overpayment) in Anaheim, then complaining when u cant resign Penner was typical Burke.

he needs bargaining chips? I think he needs most of the team already there! He could have brought a cup to Vancouver if he had got off his ass and got a damn goalie!

[winthorpe]

Wait, is that Cuthbert in the pic with Wellwood?

[Kovalchuk]

LOL, we train our asses off to link up to chicks like that, and Wellwood let's himself go to **** and look at what he has lined up for himself.

Absolutely brutal. The lights must have to be off for her.:D

Look at his leg...

of course he isn't in tip-top shape!

You guys would be surprised... hockey players just look like regular guys on the street. Smaller than most guys on these forums (non misc).

[Dan O Mac]

actually, he didn't. he down played it. And fact is, his son is our Assistant GM.

speaking of categorically denying rumors though, why do Leafs fans still think Brian Burke is coming to Toronto, yet I bring up Bowman, and its shot down for being downplayed lol.

"I don't know anything about that," Scotty Bowman said this evening. "As long as I'm healthy and there's no change in ownership in Detroit, there'll be no change. I'm perfectly satisfied."

Straight from the Detroit Free Press. Since Detroit won't be changing owners soon, that sounds like a denial to me.

And what's with another cheap Leafs potshot that has nothing to do with this story? U mad you're getting exposed for your lack of hockey knowledge?Just when I thought you were gonna maybe be worth discussing hockey with :rolleyes: I'm done with replying to your posts, it's not worth it.

[Rexy]

"I don't know anything about that," Scotty Bowman said this evening. "As long as I'm healthy and there's no change in ownership in Detroit, there'll be no change. I'm perfectly satisfied."

Straight from the Detroit Free Press. Since Detroit won't be changing owners soon, that sounds like a denial to me.

And what's with another cheap Leafs potshot that has nothing to do with this story? U mad you're getting exposed for your lack of hockey knowledge?Just when I thought you were gonna maybe be worth discussing hockey with :rolleyes: I'm done with replying to your posts, it's not worth it.


you really get defensive. Burke has denyed it atleast 15 times, and its still thought he wants to GM the trainwreck

Im sure when Bowman was rumored to be going to the Leafs...even after he denied it (yet later said he was interested and was going to do it) you thought it was going to happen.

Do you see your contradictions?
Denial by someone not going to the Leafs = never going to happen
Denial about someone reguarding the Leafs = long future with Toronto Maple Leafs organization.

[KingCanuck]

you really get defensive. Burke has denyed it atleast 15 times, and its still thought he wants to GM the trainwreck

Im sure when Bowman was rumored to be going to the Leafs...even after he denied it (yet later said he was interested and was going to do it) you thought it was going to happen.

Do you see your contradictions?
Denial by someone not going to the Leafs = never going to happen
Denial about someone reguarding the Leafs = long future with Toronto Maple Leafs organization.

Well you cant expect Burke to go out and announce that he is going to the Leafs next year can you?

[Rexy]

Well you cant expect Burke to go out and announce that he is going to the Leafs next year can you?

but you can expect Scotty Bowman to come out and say "I plan on leaving Detroit to work with my son in Chicago"?

it says they are in talks, and may come to an agreement, I never said it was definate, I just said it was stupid to say it would never happen because he denied it, but keep talking about Brian Burke.

[LVI]

The salary cap in the NHL is going up again.

Sources tell TSN that for the 2008-09 season, the salary cap will rise to a maximum of $56.7-million. That is a $6.4-million increase from this past season when the cap was set at $50.3-million.

The lower limit also rose to............

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241724&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_main

Well, all i have to say is that this is a total joke. Thank god the Oil now have a multi Billionaire as an Owner.

Gary Buttman is such a fu king retard.

[Rexy]

Im curious what the lost year was for, considering that the salary cap dictates a MINIMUM of 40M! Before the lockout there were 8 teams below 40M!

[Kovalchuk]

Im curious what the lost year was for.

aren't we all....

[Dan O Mac]

July 1st can't come soon enough, free agent frenzy!

[Dan O Mac]

Bertuzzi on waivers:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241810&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

One of the few mistakes by Burkie with the Ducks. Dude is scary in person; seems even bigger than his measurements suggest (if that's possible), and is tatted up pretty good. I saw him in a video game store last summer (he was buying Guitar Hero), talked to him about going to Anaheim.

[KingCanuck]

Bertuzzi on waivers:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241810&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

One of the few mistakes by Burkie with the Ducks. Dude is scary in person; seems even bigger than his measurements suggest (if that's possible), and is tatted up pretty good. I saw him in a video game store last summer (he was buying Guitar Hero), talked to him about going to Anaheim.

In his prime he was the most dominant player on the ice.

[Greg1983]

In his prime he was the most dominant player on the ice.

In his prime he wasn't the most dominant player on the Canucks.

Naslund without Bertuzzi > Bertuzzi without Naslund.

But I refuse to discuss this further since no matter what I have to defend a Canuck, which makes me sick to my stomach.

[KingCanuck]

In his prime he wasn't the most dominant player on the Canucks.

Naslund without Bertuzzi > Bertuzzi without Naslund.

But I refuse to discuss this further since no matter what I have to defend a Canuck, which makes me sick to my stomach.

By dominant I meant physical, my bad.

But Naslund was a better offensive player no doubt.

[kethnaab]

always bummed me out that Naslund didn't click with the Pens.

You could see his talent, but darn, he just didn't seem comfortable there.

[Dan O Mac]

always bummed me out that Naslund didn't click with the Pens.

You could see his talent, but darn, he just didn't seem comfortable there.

I don't think he was given enough time. It would've helped if they would have checked out Stojanov's wrist before making the deal; his career was pretty much over when he got there.

TSN reporting Ryan Malone is close to signing with the Bolts for 7 years at 31 mil! That's a lot of money and a long term for a guy that hasn't shown he can be more than a 20-25 goal scorer. Especially with Tampa's glut of forwards taking up cap room; they're probably gonna have to give Stamkos close to max in 3 years.

Any predictions on FA starting Tuesday? I think greg1983 mentioned it first, but I think Tucker will sign with a Western Canadian team. He's from out there, and Calgary and Edmonton have shown interest in the past. I've heard Campbell to an Eastern team as well, and the Habs and Hawks going hard after Hossa.

[Rexy]

Im hoping that we don't sign Hossa, too much money, too much time. From what I hear, Dale Tallon is going to make Campbell an offer he can't refuse...I'm hoping this is true, and picking up Sean Avery would give us the 4th spot in the West, as we have 3 great scoring lines, and a great defense

[DRob27]

TSN reporting Ryan Malone is close to signing with the Bolts for 7 years at 31 mil! That's a lot of money and a long term for a guy that hasn't shown he can be more than a 20-25 goal scorer. Especially with Tampa's glut of forwards taking up cap room; they're probably gonna have to give Stamkos close to max in 3 years.

He's being overpayed if that's true. All he did was stand in front of the net on an amazing line with Malkin/Sykora. I like the guy but he isn't worth 4.4 mil a year.

[Dan O Mac]

He's being overpayed if that's true. All he did was stand in front of the net on an amazing line with Malkin/Sykora. I like the guy but he isn't worth 4.4 mil a year.

Exactly. He's not a scrub, but he's not nearly a go-to guy either. I know there's some serious cash to be spent with the cap going up, but there's no need to get crazy. And that's not even mentioning the term. 7 years? Is Garth Snow running the Lightning now :D?

[KingCanuck]

I don't think he was given enough time. It would've helped if they would have checked out Stojanov's wrist before making the deal; his career was pretty much over when he got there.

TSN reporting Ryan Malone is close to signing with the Bolts for 7 years at 31 mil! That's a lot of money and a long term for a guy that hasn't shown he can be more than a 20-25 goal scorer. Especially with Tampa's glut of forwards taking up cap room; they're probably gonna have to give Stamkos close to max in 3 years.

Any predictions on FA starting Tuesday? I think greg1983 mentioned it first, but I think Tucker will sign with a Western Canadian team. He's from out there, and Calgary and Edmonton have shown interest in the past. I've heard Campbell to an Eastern team as well, and the Habs and Hawks going hard after Hossa.

I've heard Bruins and Nucks are going hard for Hossa.

[kethnaab]

I really hope they don't get him. Hossa needs to stay in PGH and help Sid and Malkin.

[Dan O Mac]

I've heard Bruins and Nucks are going hard for Hossa.

I read that too, with the B's a possible frontrunner because of his pal Chara.

I really hope they don't get him. Hossa needs to stay in PGH and help Sid and Malkin.

He turned down a 7 mil a year offer according to TSN to test the market, but maybe he'll go pack to Pitt because I really don't see anyone giving him more than 7. He's not a top 5 guy, more of a star than superstar and shouldn't be paid more than 7. If he really wants to win, I think re-signing with the Pens would be a great choice.

[TheManofSteel]

Deal is official between Malone & Lightning...

I wonder how complacent my Devils are going to be -

[Rexy]

Malone really milked the Bolts...

[BMC1979]

He turned down a 7 mil a year offer according to TSN to test the market, but maybe he'll go pack to Pitt because I really don't see anyone giving him more than 7. He's not a top 5 guy, more of a star than superstar and shouldn't be paid more than 7. If he really wants to win, I think re-signing with the Pens would be a great choice.

If in the end, he does go back to Pitsburgh because the market isn't what he thought, you'd think that the Pens may be able to lower their initial price as his value would basically be set. Pretty big risk for Hossa. Can't see too many people investing a ton of money in a guy with a well known injury history.

[BMC1979]

I'm happy to see Lowe making some moves for the Oilers. Think the Visnovsky deal was a good one. Helps the blue line, especially if they're looking to trade Pitkanen. Greene was useless (never really cared for him) and Stoll was getting older and they need to make some room for some of their other prospects.

[Dan O Mac]

I'm happy to see Lowe making some moves for the Oilers. Think the Visnovsky deal was a good one. Helps the blue line, especially if they're looking to trade Pitkanen. Greene was useless (never really cared for him) and Stoll was getting older and they need to make some room for some of their other prospects.

With Lubo and Souray methinks Pitkanen is a goner for some scoring help. Stoll was looking like a great 2-way 2nd line centre but hasn't been the same since that concussion.

[harrisjl]

I'm happy to see Lowe making some moves for the Oilers. Think the Visnovsky deal was a good one. Helps the blue line, especially if they're looking to trade Pitkanen. Greene was useless (never really cared for him) and Stoll was getting older and they need to make some room for some of their other prospects.


With Lubo and Souray methinks Pitkanen is a goner for some scoring help. Stoll was looking like a great 2-way 2nd line centre but hasn't been the same since that concussion.

Canes just picked up Pitkanen for Eric Cole.... Cole was one of the more popular players and one of the better offensive players but slowed down a bit after a neck injury in 2006....

[Rexy]

lmao...Toronto just signed Curtis Joseph!!


hahahaha!!

[Rexy]

Bruins just signed Blake Wheeler...if anyone doesn't know, he was 5th overall pick in 2004 behind Andrew Ladd. He will likely be playing on a line with his best buddy Phil Kessell (Kessell is the reason he picked Boston)

[DRob27]

Pens resigned Dupuis for 3 years 1.4/year and Eaton 2 years 1mil/year. Two great deals imo.

also,
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/07/01/penguins_jagr/

[KingCanuck]

Rumour is Nucks offered Sundin 20 million 2 years...


WTF is Gillis thinking?

[Rexy]

Rumour is Nucks offered Sundin 20 million 2 years...


WTF is Gillis thinking?

he is thinking that he should be an agent, not a GM...jesus what a ****ty deal!!

[Rexy]

Washington just signed Theodore...wonder why lol

Huet>>Theoore IMO

[TheStack]

Andrei Kostitsyn is back! Thank god, he is the future of the habs at wing with tanguay.

[Rexy]

Chicago Blackhawks http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242185&lid=sublink03&lpos=headlines_nhlhave just signed Huet

[Mr. Manlet]

fukin coyotes....let radim vrbata go

:mad:

[Rexy]

fukin coyotes....let radim vrbata go

:mad:

trust me, he's not that good (who do you think you got him from lol)

[chyeahBOYY]

tucker to avs!

[Mr. Manlet]

trust me, he's not that good (who do you think you got him from lol)

idk bro...he had a great season for them last year..struggled towards the end though

but easily a 30g scorer

[Rexy]

tucker to avs!

holy **** did the Avs overpay!!

[Rexy]

idk bro...he had a great season for them last year..struggled towards the end though

but easily a 30g scorer

I wouldn't say that...don't be surprised that last season will likely be his best.

[DRob27]

Pens sign godard from the flames. Terrible player, but at 1mil less than laraque, I don't really care. Rumor has it 550k per year so it's not terrible as long as we don't try to play him all the time.

[LiftBigEatBig]

Canucks offer sheet to St Louis RFA David Backes. 3 years/7.5 million.

Whats the word on the this guy? I haven't heard much about him...

[Dan O Mac]

Damn, Leafs just got "Fingered." Jeff Finger for 3.5 mil a year. He's a mistake-free puckmover, something every team needs, but at that price? Wonder if this is just what the market is with the cap rising; if so, imagine what Campbell, Redden, etc will get :eek:!

Love the Cujo signing! Gives us Leafs fans someone to cheer in the upcoming ****ty year, and he'll only have to play 15 games tops with Toskala handling the rest. Then hopefully gove way to Pogge as backup next year if things go well.

And wow are the Nucks pushing hard for Sundin! If they re-signed Naslund it would up their chances a lot.

[Dan O Mac]

Canucks offer sheet to St Louis RFA David Backes. 3 years/7.5 million.

Whats the word on the this guy? I haven't heard much about him...

Good young power-forward. 20-25 goals a year with great intangibles. They only have to give up a 2nd if the Blues don't match.

[Dan O Mac]

Fan 590 in Toronto is reporting that the Pens have approached Jagr about signing!

[Rexy]

TSN reports that Campbell has narrowed it down to 3 teams

Atlanta, Chicago and San Jose

[TheManofSteel]

B. Shanahan rumored to be in talks with the Devs

[Rexy]

Brian Campbell signs with Chicago!!!!!

8 yrs at $7.1 M

[TheManofSteel]

Devils bring back

Bobby Holik (from Atlanta)

&

Brian Rolston (from Minn)

Devils Deals (http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=367442)

[BMC1979]

Canes just picked up Pitkanen for Eric Cole.... Cole was one of the more popular players and one of the better offensive players but slowed down a bit after a neck injury in 2006....

I was pretty happy when I saw this deal. Addresses issues for both teams. Good to finally see the Oilers land someone who has proven he can put the puck in the net. Plus you replace some of that veteran leadership they traded away with Stoll and Smith last year.

The Torres for Brule trade was a decent one too. Torres hasn't stepped up like he needed too and in return the Oilers got a decent young player who's a hometown boy and will hopefully take that step forward in his career.

Little worried about the Visnovsky deal now. With him saying he was disappointed about being traded and then trying to backpeddle, sounds like it could be the same old story for the Oilers and their recent string of FA siginings. In other words, it could be a very short relationship.

Just read too that the Oilers threw a big contract offer at Hossa. Pretty undecided about this one. On one hand, when he's healthy he's a hell of a player on the other hand the catch is he has to be healthy which I'm worried he won't be able to do.

[BMC1979]

Pens sign godard from the flames. Terrible player, but at 1mil less than laraque, I don't really care. Rumor has it 550k per year so it's not terrible as long as we don't try to play him all the time.

Living in Calgary and having a Flames fan for a wife, I've seen Goddard play a lot. He knows his role and will bang a lot of bodies while contributing with a couple points here and there. If nothing else, he always plays hard. Decent replacement for Laraque for, like you said, less money.

[Dan O Mac]

Canes just picked up Pitkanen for Eric Cole.... Cole was one of the more popular players and one of the better offensive players but slowed down a bit after a neck injury in 2006....

That was crazy how he came back that same year. Character guy, plays hard; surprised the Canes dealt him.


I was pretty happy when I saw this deal. Addresses issues for both teams. Good to finally see the Oilers land someone who has proven he can put the puck in the net. Plus you replace some of that veteran leadership they traded away with Stoll and Smith last year.

The Torres for Brule trade was a decent one too. Torres hasn't stepped up like he needed too and in return the Oilers got a decent young player who's a hometown boy and will hopefully take that step forward in his career.

Little worried about the Visnovsky deal now. With him saying he was disappointed about being traded and then trying to backpeddle, sounds like it could be the same old story for the Oilers and their recent string of FA siginings. In other words, it could be a very short relationship.

Just read too that the Oilers threw a big contract offer at Hossa. Pretty undecided about this one. On one hand, when he's healthy he's a hell of a player on the other hand the catch is he has to be healthy which I'm worried he won't be able to do.

Visnovsky clarified his comments (I'll paraphrase): he was disappointed that Lombardi didn't call him to tell him about the trade before K-Lo did; he was disappointed with the way it went down. But he said he's happy to be coming to a country where hockey is #1, like in Slovakia, and as long as he has his family with him he'll be fine.

So I think he was just a little shocked as he's never been dealt before and had recently signed a new deal.

I like the Torres for Brule deal for you guys. From what I'd heard, Torres was doing a little too much partying (now he's going to Hollywood, haha), and really needed a change. With Brule, you get a guy that was often mentioned as 2nd best in his draft year behind Crosby but the BJ's really hurt his development by rushing him to the NHL. He's got a high upside, and even if he doesn't reach that, should at least replace what you lost in Torres, as he plays very physical despite his size.

[Rexy]

wow, no comments on the Campbell deal?

[Madevilz]

Andrei Kostitsyn is back! Thank god, he is the future of the habs at wing with tanguay.

lol Tanguay our future?
We're not even sure he's going to resign here after next season

[Madevilz]

wow, no comments on the Campbell deal?

strong overpayment

[Rexy]

strong overpayment

.6mil more then Redden. Doesn't seem like that much of an overpayment

Especially after Sundin signs for 10mil

btw. Its only 1.5 more then Andrei Markov

[thegenerel]

a few years ago, everyone in pittsburgh flipped when gonchar got paid 5m. now the guy is a bargain. id take him over campbell and redden, not considering their salaries.


apparently orpik and hossa have made their decisions, we will find out soon enough. doesnt sound good for pens fans. :(