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DiverChick

09-13-2007, 01:21 PM

Lovespell

09-13-2007, 01:54 PM

Hey! I have also heard of those and researched it a bit, it seems controversial, as well as detox diets or beverage only diets that some celebrities have used.

I have no experience with any of these, just read it in a book and heard from my doctor that there is no need for it. Figured a bump would also help :)

Cheers !

MsFit

09-13-2007, 02:23 PM

Lovespell

09-13-2007, 02:30 PM

I don't know if I got the site you were trying to give... I got an error message. Anyway, detoxing is good and I feel necessary. Our bodies do detox themselves to a certain degree, but these days we are taking in more man-made chemicals then ever before and the body just isn't designed to deal with the load we are putting on it. I'm in full favor of organ cleanses. I often recommend them to e-clients. I'm in a MLM all natural product line too, but don't push the marketing aspect, I just recommend the products when I feel it's necessary.

hmm, really? is it a controversial process? I've recently been through some RL troubles and have been binging like crazy, and within the past couple months have eaten everything bad for you that you can imagine, in large quantities(If I begin to list, pretty sure you would cringe. haha)
I am now looking to eliminate anything processed and Eat Clean to finally live again. What are the steps to this detoxing? Thanks Ms!

DiverChick

09-13-2007, 04:46 PM

Thanks ladies and Ms. Fit!

The site was wrong, I'm sorry. It's :

www.fatlosscleansing.isogenix.com

But I'd love to know what you do and recommend Ms. Fit.

Thanks!

Also, I think I may try this one my friend recommends myself, so if anyone is curious I can post my results/experiences. I'd like to keep my muscle, but shed some weight and get back my non-existent energy!

Lovespell

09-13-2007, 05:13 PM

LSMalibu

09-13-2007, 05:30 PM

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/detox.html

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/gastro.html

MsFit

09-14-2007, 04:35 AM

QuackPot Watch (http://www.theelitephysique.com/articles/fbbarticles/naturalhealth/fbb11.htm)

MsFit

09-14-2007, 06:30 AM

I am now looking to eliminate anything processed and Eat Clean to finally live again. What are the steps to this detoxing? Thanks Ms!

Sorry for the delay lgc21x and DiverChick... had to train. :D

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Karen!

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MsFit

09-14-2007, 06:30 AM

...couple more:

Hi Karen

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DiverChick

09-14-2007, 12:18 PM

Thanks Ms. Fit!!! Appreciate all the info and I will look into this.

I read the Quack Watch info and disagree a bit. I don't believe in a lemon juice/water fast as you need calories, vitmains and minerals, but as far as toxins go, I read this report from National Geographic in March 2006 about how many more toxins are in our environment, food, air, water etc and the effect it has on our body. There are numerous doctors who know this and see these effects everyday. You can read it here:

http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0610/feature4/index.html

Anyways, back to more research. I'll let you know how it goes if I try any!

gfundaro

09-14-2007, 12:35 PM

As a rule, I avoid anything that equates a lot of pooping with fat loss.
I'm not saying that extra pooping is bad, or to avoid these products all together, but I really look at them for what they are: glorified fiber supplements.
If they indeed interfere with digestion to the point that they reduce your absorption of nutrients and in turn cause fat loss...well, I think we'll all agree that's in no way healthy. But realistically, they just make you poop, and you'll feel a little bit lighter without the poo in there. I don't bother with that stuff because I can eat some flax meal and drink a bottle of water and the next morning I'm feeling 'brand new.' :)

Donica

09-14-2007, 05:07 PM

I don't believe in a lemon juice/water fast as you need calories, vitmains and minerals,

With all due respect, I would like to interject into this interesting thread that you need calories, vitamins, and minerals if you are training, but the human system can and actually often thrives on a controlled water/juice fast if allowed to take a step back from everyday routine (read: not overexert oneself and avoids unnecessary stresses). Over the years I have gone on extended juice and water fasts and have been exceptionally happy with the various levels of detoxification that I have accomplished within my body. Certainly I would not recommend such a fast to someone who has no knowledge of how to properly conduct one, and not everyone can fast for the same period of time safely (my mother, for instance, has contentedly stayed on a juice fast for over three weeks, but my body will not allow me to fast that long--there there are others who have fasted successfully for much longer, though).

But, and this is important, do NOT engage in any form of weight-bearing or strenuous exercise on a fast! The purpose of a juice fast is to cleanse your system, which it does in part by allowing the energy that is usually used for digestion and elimination processes to be channelled into bodily healing, cleansing, and detoxification. So if you put your body under the stress of a hard workout without feeding it the solid food and calories it needs, the results can be disastrous, for you're breaking down without giving it any way to build itself back up. That's when the human system truly must have the calories, vitamins, and minerals you mentioned in your post--but don't worry, unless you're exceptionally ill or otherwise outrageously malnourished, a two- or three-day juice/water fast will not deplete your body of its needed mineral stores and et cetera. :)

Ms. Lucy

09-14-2007, 05:55 PM

Donica,

Thanks for the reply.

This subject is new to me, aside from my friend's experience.

I plan to try this program for 9 days and just see what happens. I will report back late next week with my results. I belive in detoxification and the fact that we are more exposed to toxins then ever before, and am curious considering I eat clean, with no pesticides, sugars or trans fats and I exercise with HIIT and weight training, yet don't lose much weight.

We'll see if this does anything--but with an Aussie hubby who's country uses these approaches regularly, I'm good to go for 9 days to see!

amberlynn72

09-16-2007, 09:31 AM

Anyone try this?

www.fatlosscleansing.isagenix.com

I only ask here because it was endorsed/used by a former Mr. America Finalist and also from Jack Canfield (Chicken Soup for the Soul).

I've always been interested in Liver Cleansing/Detox and my friend signed up. However, it's an MLM company (she said that doesn't matter) but it makes me skeptical.

Has anyone done this or a similar program?

Any feedback is appreciated!

That sounds pretty good. Oh yea i am a firm believer in cleansing and detoxing..My life depends on it. I was a mess without it. I have cured myself of so many things I can't even remember them all.

A few just to mention

IE: panic attacks, paranoia, anxiety, yeast infections, vaginitis, strep throat, colds and flus (very rare for me now) metabolism problems, depression, hormones, constipation, energy, cracked heels, water metabolism, liver problems, urinary tract infections, gall stones, ..much much more. Been cleansing since the fall of 2004. So I still have much to do

I have done constant colon cleansing

Numerous fasts, one for 29 days

12 liver flushes

2 liver cleanses

1 kidney cleanse

emotional freedom technique

acupuncture

ongoing parasite cleanses

All of this has really helped my son also.

He does parasite cleanses and colon cleanses ...He is a type 1 diabetic

He used to have TONS of ear wax pouring out of his ears.. I knew this was a sign of something wrong.

And just recently i noticed that he no longer has this problem. the ear wax stays where it should be, there is no buildup

He no longer is constipated and poops out lil round marbles.

And is blood sugar is almost within normal ranges and has reduced his insulin down to what it was since he was diagnosed a year ago ..which is unheard of.

They would expect him to continue to increase his dosages as time goes on.

this and i avoid high fructose corn syrup like the plague. It really is some VERY bad stuff...it makes his blood sugar majorly uncontrollable on the borderline of extreme danger. I think it is a major contributing factor for Type 2 diabetes for sure.

it's interesting to note that i can tell the real story of what happens to our bodies when eating certain foods by watching my son's blood sugar and how it reacts.

when eating HFCS his blood sugar shoots to almost 400 and stays there for an entire day. and that might mean he only ate a few teaspoons of ice cream with that in it.

normal blood sugar ranges from 80-120 for those that don't know.

Donica

09-16-2007, 09:52 AM

I have done constant colon cleansing
Numerous fasts, one for 29 days
12 liver flushes
2 liver cleanses
1 kidney cleanse
emotional freedom technique
acupuncture
ongoing parasite cleanses
All of this has really helped my son also.
He does parasite cleanses and colon cleanses ...

Just thought I'd add the thought, if anyone else is interested in learning about natural detoxification beyond juice and water fasts, "The Detox Book" by Bruce Fife is an excellent resource. It covers a lot of the organ cleanses amberlynn mentioned, plus some other powerful avenues of bodily cleansing. I will concur that such alternative therapies can work wonders on your system--I've experienced the truth of that myself, and found that the human body truly can heal itself from many oppressive maladies if given the proper attention, nutrition, and rest--and anyone interested in health and the fitness of the body in general might enjoy learning about these oft-overlooked avenues to physical rejuvenation.

DiverChick

09-17-2007, 05:20 PM

Thanks for the replies ladies!!! I just got the system and will be trying it for the next 9 days. I'll report back with how it goes plus it asks you to do measurements, so I'll send them as well.

It makes sense to me...so we'll see what happens!

Here's to detox--can't wait!