stumpman8's diesel test review log

[stumpman8]

I am reviewing this product for Chuck. I will be conducting 10 workouts a week 6 cardio HIIT sessions and 4 lifting sessions a week. For the First 5 days I will not exceed 3 tablets a day, and today I have taken 3 and did my cardio. The pills go down easy. I am awaiting my total test and free test lab results, and will post them when they come in as well. Tomorrow is a lifting and cardio day and I will log on and let you know how day 2 goes. BTW the stats in my signature are my personal best and taken before I had my 3rd shoulder surgery that ended my baseball career. I will be pushing myself throughout this cycle, to see how much I can get out of this product My diet will consist of 16 0z of egg beaters in the morning at 6:30 am followed with 8 0z of opt 100% whey at 9 :30 am then at 12:30 pm I will have a chicken breast with steamed broccoli at 3:30 I will have another 8 oz shake at 6:30 I will have a tuna steak or salmon steak with spinach salad and at 10:00 pm an 8 oz shake with a 6 oz can of tuna

[Kane22]

Good Luck on your review man. I will try to keep up with how your doing, I plan on taking diesel sometime in the future.

Kane

[stumpman8]

well I woke up this morning at 5:15 am and did my HIIT cardio for 20 mins and then lifted back biceps and chest I did 3x8 sets up of lat rows, 3x8 of dumbell flys, 3x8 of hammer curls, 3x8 incline curls,3x8 flat dumbell bench, 6x8 of lat pull downs,60 total wide grip chins, 3x20 dips, 3x15 tricep pushdowns from both sides I had a little pep to this workout, but since it is so soon, I am thinking it was just a good morning. Then I went to play golf at 5pm and I crushed my driver and everything felt in sync and i have had energy all day

[stumpman8]

did the 5:45 am cardio this morning, and I felt like a monster, My high intensities were throught the roof and I felt like someone had attached me to a bettery charger and filled me with electricity, even though it is a non lifting day I went ahead and did 300 pushups 6 sets of 50, and 40 pull ups and 60 dips. I am still wanting to work out, so far just taking the three tabs a day I am very satisfied. I cant wait to start the 6 tabs a day. BTW I have had no side effects or aggression yet.

[stumpman8]

I am taking ON 100% whey, LMR sports muscle mass stack, Diesel Test, NIacin 2000 mg a day one week on one week off, and Diesel TEst, MY workout schedule is 4 days a week lifting day one Triceps, chest, lats, and back Day 2 Legs-squats, hack squats and dead lifts day 3- biceps, forearms, shoulders and traps, and day 4 cleans, abs, and deadlifts again

[stumpman8]

BTW the way I am working calves 3 days a week as well. I have taken vitrix, 1-ad, M1T, and reg trib before this.

[stumpman8]

just did cardio today and played 36 holes of golf. Cardio seemed like a breeze and my focus on the golf course was unbelievable, I shot a 76 and a 79. I really think this stuff is awesome so far and I can feel my energy and libido starting to jump even though I have not felt aggressive yet.

[stumpman8]

now started taking 6 tabs a day. I have been feeling very lethargic, however when I lift I feel like I have tons of intensity and I am actually having some weight increases in back and tricep lifts. So far great product

[CHUCK DIESEL]

now started taking 6 tabs a day. I have been feeling very lethargic, however when I lift I feel like I have tons of intensity and I am actually having some weight increases in back and tricep lifts. So far great product

I got that effect after 3 a day for about 3 days then it went away.

[stumpman8]

still feeling lethargic, however once i get weights in my hand I feel like a man on fire. I have more intensity and focus in the weight room and doing cardio. My golf game seems to be prospering as well, I am just lethargic and really lacking in sex drive the last few days.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

still feeling lethargic, however once i get weights in my hand I feel like a man on fire. I have more intensity and focus in the weight room and doing cardio. My golf game seems to be prospering as well, I am just lethargic and really lacking in sex drive the last few days.

maybe you should go to 4 a day or 5 a day for a few then up to 6, you went from 3 to 6 correct?

edit: I went back and checked my notes and you are having the same effect I had on 3 a day for the first 3 days. I was lethargic, but destroying the gym and had no sex drive (that went away after day 3 and then it was the reverse). I would cut back to 2 am, 1 mid day, 1 pm for a few days.

[stumpman8]

thats what i'll do, btw the dr. office called my test levels are in so i will get them to you.

[Eightpak]

Hey bro, glad to see your liking the DT. I'm reviewing it now too and its pretty good stuff. I'm on 5 a day now and have plenty of energy throughout the day and in the gym. The only thing is its hard getting up in the morning. This may be just me though. Check out my log in the sig if you want. I feel like its really working. I was up 3 lbs the other day. I will weigh again in a few days and hopefully be up again.

[stumpman8]

i have tremendous probs waking up at 5:45 for cardio, hell sunday i slept in till 9 am. I know what you mean having trouble waking up

[ry_francis777]

I might try this product as soon as i start to cut. Let me know if its a good idea. And good job so far bro. Keep up the good work.

Check out my X-factor log if ya want.

[stumpman8]

Prolactin-17.7 (2.5-17.0)
Cortisol-21.4 (4.0-22.0)
Estradiol-<20 (<57)
FSH-2.1 (0.7-11.1)
LH-3.5 (0.8-7.6)
TSH-3.65 (.45-4.50)
Total Testosterone-373 (189-1111)
% of Free Testosterone-2.29 (1.1-2.8)
Test, Free-85.5 (40.0-150.
these were my levels before taking DT it cost me around $120.00 DOLLARS because my doctor would not order it and give a good reason for my insurance. I went to the cheapest lab in town and this is exactly what I got in the mail. no explanation no nothing

[stumpman8]

just called the lab total test was measured in ng/dl while free was pg/dl. apparently, my free test is very high. Well I am going to get it tested again in about 8-10 days and I may use labquest even though they charge $425.00 for the same test but maybe their results will be clearer.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

just called the lab total test was measured in ng/dl while free was pg/dl. apparently, my free test is very high. Well I am going to get it tested again in about 8-10 days and I may use labquest even though they charge $425.00 for the same test but maybe their results will be clearer.

Yeah thats what I pm'ed you. 85 pg/dl is high since most early 20's people are at about 40 pg/dl. But most early 20's males have total test at about 600 ng/dl

so if your total is 375 ng/dl it is ok to have 85 pg/dl free (the lower total test, the more free test you need). Now if DIESEL TEST increases free test higher or keepts free test the same but raise total test. thats a good boost bc you are only 23 with not that much shbg.

2.29% free means that you have 97.6% bound which is low (good). Most people have 98-99.5% bound (but then again most people have higher total test than you).

[CHUCK DIESEL]

Prolactin-17.7 (2.5-17.0)
Cortisol-21.4 (4.0-22.0)
Estradiol-<20 (<57)
FSH-2.1 (0.7-11.1)
LH-3.5 (0.8-7.6)
TSH-3.65 (.45-4.50)
Total Testosterone-373 (189-1111)
% of Free Testosterone-2.29 (1.1-2.8)
Test, Free-85.5 (40.0-150.
these were my levels before taking DT it cost me around $120.00 DOLLARS because my doctor would not order it and give a good reason for my insurance. I went to the cheapest lab in town and this is exactly what I got in the mail. no explanation no nothing

You have high cortisol (which it typical of a powerlifter, but low total test which is what happen when cortisol is up, total test is down).

Estradiol is low which = higher free test.

All in all you were good to go before diesel test, just high cortisol.

Hopefully DT will show an increase in total test and free test even higher, with a reduction in cortisol.

$120.00 bucks for the 1st test and at least that much for a 2nd....pm me, I will hook you up with some more supplements to ease the pain.
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edit: I would go back to them, even if you may think they sucked it makes not since to switch labs. Also go back same time of the day.

[stumpman8]

well chuck, the lethargy is gone and now I feel like i can rip stuff off the walls. I am not kidding I feel like I should have weights in my hands at all times and i am craving sex. I took a cycle of deca and sustanon in college playing ball ( I did not know alot then about steroids or how to cycle, and I would never take another cycle again it was a just a stupid young immature mistake in my younger years ) I feel even better with DT then I did then. I still have not had alot of aggression but I have had tons more intensity and focus combined with extreme explosive energy. I love this ****.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

well chuck, the lethargy is gone and now I feel like i can rip stuff off the walls. I am not kidding I feel like I should have weights in my hands at all times and i am craving sex. I took a cycle of deca and sustanon in college playing ball ( I did not know alot then about steroids or how to cycle, and I would never take another cycle again it was a just a stupid young immature mistake in my younger years ) I feel even better with DT then I did then. I still have not had alot of aggression but I have had tons more intensity and focus combined with extreme explosive energy. I love this ****.

its weird, you respond to 5/6 a day like I did on 3 a day (the first 3 days), then the lathargy went away and I started felling like jumping up and taking off running full speed all day. I'm not lying you can check my training log at getnos.com from about April 5th to today.

Did you stay at 6 or cut back to 5 a day?

[stumpman8]

i cut back to 5 a day, but i know what you mean if i am not doing something i want to be doing it, i feel like doing cardio 3 or 4 times a day and lifting all day it is amazing

[Sixpack]

I really gotta try this to see if i can get me t-levels up

its weird, you respond to 5/6 a day like I did on 3 a day (the first 3 days), then the lathargy went away and I started felling like jumping up and taking off running full speed all day. I'm not lying you can check my training log at getnos.com from about April 5th to today.

Did you stay at 6 or cut back to 5 a day?

[stumpman8]

well ill be getting test levels re tested this upcoming thursday. I have so much more energy now and am tearing up my workouts. this stuff is bad ass, i have to admit i was skeptical about another tribulus product, however anyone who has taken any get diesel products know their quality is bar none. ready 4 war kicks ass, and so does Diesel Test.

[Eightpak]

well ill be getting test levels re tested this upcoming thursday. I have so much more energy now and am tearing up my workouts. this stuff is bad ass, i have to admit i was skeptical about another tribulus product, however anyone who has taken any get diesel products know their quality is bar none. ready 4 war kicks ass, and so does Diesel Test.

Agreed. You can't compare DT to any other trib/avena product an the market. Its results are too good to be in that same catagory. Get diesel is a serious company with serious products no question about it!

[stumpman8]

been feeling like **** the last 2 days, throwing up all my food and water so I went to the doctor. I have to have my gall bladder removed. I am going to have it done in 9 days after i get done with my graduate finals. I am also going to have my test levels redone thursday. I just hope this surgery does not keep me out too long. The doctor said he probably would scope me, but there is a chance of cutting me open due to the location of my gall bladder.

[jaymode]

been feeling like **** the last 2 days, throwing up all my food and water so I went to the doctor. I have to have my gall bladder removed. I am going to have it done in 9 days after i get done with my graduate finals. I am also going to have my test levels redone thursday. I just hope this surgery does not keep me out too long. The doctor said he probably would scope me, but there is a chance of cutting me open due to the location of my gall bladder.

Wow man, that stinks. I wish you the best.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

been feeling like **** the last 2 days, throwing up all my food and water so I went to the doctor. I have to have my gall bladder removed. I am going to have it done in 9 days after i get done with my graduate finals. I am also going to have my test levels redone thursday. I just hope this surgery does not keep me out too long. The doctor said he probably would scope me, but there is a chance of cutting me open due to the location of my gall bladder.

I had choleothiosis (or however you spell it….gall stones). Have you had pains in your right side right under your last rib? When you eat anything with saturated fat do you get bad pains and does your stomach blow up like a balloon? Those are signs of gall stones (and burping all the time). If you dont have those ask the doctor what exactly is wrong with you gall bladder. A bad gall bladder doesnt make you throw up.

Doctors are real quick to yank out gall bladders bc most of the surgeries are laparoscopic and you bounce back pretty fast. I would try some Ox bile extract tablets and see if that helps in the mean time.

The purpose of the gall bladder is to hold bile made in the liver for when eat large meals to cut the fat.

There is something I use to take to reduce gall stones, I just cannot remember what it was but stress can cause a bad gall bladder (and 2 much fried food). Also a fast reduction in body weight can cause gall problems bc you decrease bad cholesterol in the blood which always sometimes raise bad cholesterol levels in the gall bladder.

Call me when you get a chance, usually a gall bladder problem is a chronic problem, not acute. You just dont wake up with a bad gall bladder.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

found this:

http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/gallstones/

[freaker]

been feeling like **** the last 2 days, throwing up all my food and water so I went to the doctor. I have to have my gall bladder removed. I am going to have it done in 9 days after i get done with my graduate finals. I am also going to have my test levels redone thursday. I just hope this surgery does not keep me out too long. The doctor said he probably would scope me, but there is a chance of cutting me open due to the location of my gall bladder.

Sorry to hear that. Make sure to take it easy if that is what the doctor wants you to do. I know it's tough when you're used to tearing it up, but give your body the rest it needs so you can be healthy for the long term.

[Iron Draggin]

been feeling like **** the last 2 days, throwing up all my food and water so I went to the doctor. I have to have my gall bladder removed. I am going to have it done in 9 days after i get done with my graduate finals. I am also going to have my test levels redone thursday. I just hope this surgery does not keep me out too long. The doctor said he probably would scope me, but there is a chance of cutting me open due to the location of my gall bladder.

I was out for about 6 weeks after my gall bladder surgery. I couldn't leave the house for about 7-10 days. You may recover faster then I did, but I wouldn't plan on being in the gym for the next month at least. Also, your diet will change, expect that now. you can go ahead and try fast food after your surgery, but you'll probably regret it like I did. :(

Good luck!

[stumpman8]

my pain is in the right upper quadrant and similar to what i felt when my appendix ruptured in 2003. I have had this feeling of nausea and upper right abdominal pain a few times after eating fast, greasy food over the last year and a half. However this is the first time it has been this severe. I have had a CT scan done, a hytascan or whatever it is called, and an endoscopy. the hytascan showed gall stones and showed the gall bladder was not functioning properly on removing the sludge / bile. The doc said, it was time to come out. It kinda sucks, now my Bodybuilding and golf will be on hold for a while. The funny thing is this attack was started by the first greasy unhealthy food I have had in about 7 months. I decided to have a cheat day and it really backfired on me.

[Eightpak]

Hey bro, I'm really sorry about your situation. Hope all goes well with you and you recover fast. Make sure to give us an update on how everything went. Later!

[stumpman8]

i am having the surgery thursday May 12 at 8 am. I will have my test levels posted as soon as they come in. This product was amazing. I want to thank Chuck for letting me review DT. Freaker, it may be a while now until I can review the LMR stuff. The doc said it will be 4-6 weeks depending on how my body recovers. ON the other hand I would recommend anyone who has a serious workout to use DT. I have already gotten my father very curious about DT as well. My recovery times, strength, intensity, and energy went through the roof, while my Bodyfat actually decreased. This supplement is a must for anyone who has low test levels and lethargic workouts

[stumpman8]

i will say this now, I have been off of DT for about 4 days and I am starting to miss the intensity and workouts I had. Maybe it was because I have been sick with gall stones, but cardio and lifting lately have killed me and I have not been hitting near the intensities or heavy weights I was getting while in the middle of DT Dt is the ****

[CHUCK DIESEL]

i will say this now, I have been off of DT for about 4 days and I am starting to miss the intensity and workouts I had. Maybe it was because I have been sick with gall stones, but cardio and lifting lately have killed me and I have not been hitting near the intensities or heavy weights I was getting while in the middle of DT Dt is the ****

Give that lab a call for me if you dont hear by friday about your results from last thurs.

[stumpman8]

Give that lab a call for me if you dont hear by friday about your results from last thurs.
will do chuck

[stumpman8]

lab results are in, i have a graduate strength and conditioning final tomorrow and gall bladder surgery on thursday so i will not be on for a few days, but i will have results posted asap as soon as i am feeling better, thanx again chuck for letting me review this

[CHUCK DIESEL]

lab results are in, i have a graduate strength and conditioning final tomorrow and gall bladder surgery on thursday so i will not be on for a few days, but i will have results posted asap as soon as i am feeling better, thanx again chuck for letting me review this

Dont workout before the surgery and like I said take glutamine/creatine post surgery. I was dropping weight like crazy after my g-bladder sug. until started drinking glutamine every 2hours.

Also keep a pillow to your stomach, you will hate sneezing or taking a dump for about 1 week after........also you stomach will look like you just ate a turkey post sug, it will go away.

good luck.

[Malbolgia]

Good luck bro

[Outside backer]

bump for test results

[stumpman8]

sorry for being so late, i had a urinary tract infection, along with pneumonia after surgery and i ahve been hurting pretty bad. I will not be on for about a month I am going to belize with my fiance on Tuesday the 31 of may here is the new test results that show DT worked.
FSH 2.0 (0.7-11.1)
LH 2.3 ( 0.8-7.6)
Prolactin 10.6 ( 2.5-17.0)
Cortisol 14.0 (4.0-22.0)
Estradiol <15 ( <53)
TSH 2.79 (0.45-4.50)
Total Test 485 (260-1000)
% Free Test 2.38 (1.0-2.7)
Test, Free 115.2 ( 50-210)
Chuck you did unbelievable with this product. I will call when I get back from Belize and unfortunatley I will be out of action for 8 more weeks. I also have my dad on DT now and he is 53 and he cannot believe how much better feels. You are my hero

[CHUCK DIESEL]

Stumpman 6 days before starting DIESEL TEST:

Prolactin-17.7 (2.5-17.0)
Cortisol-21.4 (4.0-22.0)
Estradiol-<20 (<57)
FSH-2.1 (0.7-11.1)
LH-3.5 (0.8-7.6)
TSH-3.65 (.45-4.50)
Total Testosterone-373 (189-1111)
% of Free Testosterone-2.29 (1.1-2.8)
Test, Free-85.5 (40.0-150.
these were my levels before taking DT it cost me around $120.00 DOLLARS because my doctor would not order it and give a good reason for my insurance. I went to the cheapest lab in town and this is exactly what I got in the mail. no explanation no nothing

Stumpman at about day 25 of DIESEL TEST:

FSH 2.0 (0.7-11.1)
LH 2.3 ( 0.8-7.6)
Prolactin 10.6 ( 2.5-17.0)
Cortisol 14.0 (4.0-22.0)
Estradiol <15 ( <53)
TSH 2.79 (0.45-4.50)
Total Test 485 (260-1000)
% Free Test 2.38 (1.0-2.7)
Test, Free 115.2 ( 50-210)

To me I guess this is good results from a 23 year old who had high free test. to begin with. BTW look at his cortisol levels after (but LH went down which may have been some sort of loop back).

------------START------------------DAY 25-------------------(+/-)

Prolactin-17.7 (2.5-17.0) Prolactin 10.6 -7.1 or -40%
Cortisol-21.4 (4.0-22.0) Cortisol 14.0 -7.4 or -35%
Estradiol-<20 (<57) Estradiol <15 -5 or -25%
FSH-2.1 (0.7-11.1) FSH-2.0 -0.1 or -4%
LH-3.5 (0.8-7.6) LH 2.3 -1.2 or -35%
TSH-3.65 (.45-4.50) TSH 2.79 -0.86 or -24%
Total Test. 373 (189-1111) Total Test. 485 + 30%
% of Free Test 2.29 (1.1-2.8) % Free Test 2.38 about same
Test, Free-85.5 (40.0-150) Test, Free 115.2 +35%

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Looks like DIESEL TEST (in 25 days in a 23 yr. old male with relatively high free testosterone levels) produces these effects:

Reduced Cortisol 35%
Reduced Prolactin by 40%
Increased total testosterone by 30%
Increased free testosterone by 35%

Also reduce FSH, LH, TSH but caused increase in total test and free test and reduced bodyfat so this leads me to believe your body is either in a loop back reducing FSH and LH because test. levels are rising or your body is doing more with less.

Since this product is 100% non-hormonal.
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Prolactin is also normally produced in men but appears to have no specific role in males. High prolactin levels have the effect of suppressing the hormones responsible for the normal functioning of the ovaries and testes. High prolactin levels can therefore lead to menstrual irregularity and/or fertility problems. Prolactin is a hormone produced from the pituitary gland. It is naturally produced at higher levels than normal during stressful events. In men, excess prolactin can cause impotence, breast development and also secretion of milk from the breasts. IN MEN LESS IS BETTER.

http://www.dundee.ac.uk/medther/tayendoweb/prolactinoma.htm


Cortisol- Stress hormone, destroys muscles. The “get big steroids” work by blocking cortisol. Testosterone destroyer. Increases belly fat. LESS IS BETTER.

More info.

http://stress.about.com/cs/cortisol/a/aa012901.htm


FSH-
http://my.webmd.com/hw/womens_conditions/hw7924.asp


LH
http://arbl.cvmbs.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/hypopit/lhfsh.html

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Estrodiol- less is better. But 0 estrogen is not good.



TSH dropped but DIESEL TEST causes increase in fat loss so it may not be reducing T4 just reducing Thyroid stimulating hormone.
http://www.endocrineweb.com/tests.html

Total test overall testosterone levels but free testosterone is the indicator of high or low testosterone.

Free testosterone is what’s not bound to SHBG. High total test and low free test percentage = signs of low testosterone. Low to medium total test but high free test is ok.

I'd like to personally thank all of you who hated on DIESEL TEST and my ability to do a natural test product.

-Chuck

[Sixpack]

Great results chuck I will let you know how am doing being off it etc. So far so good

[Stuntdawg]

Now that's what I like to see Chuck. I'm glad you had your testers get bloodwork done. Congrats on devising an effective natural test booster.

[Malbolgia]

I'd like to personally thank all of you who hated on DIESEL TEST and my ability to do a natural test product.

-Chuck

Haa haaa! Atta kid, Chuck! It's always comical to hear people say stuff like "on paper this stuff doesn't look like it'll work" or "your ingredients are crap, this stuff is garbage" - then the real world rears its head and VIOLA, THIS STUFF WORKS!!!

[BigCool]

[QUOTE=CHUCK DIESEL]Dont workout before the surgery and like I said take glutamine/creatine post surgery. I was dropping weight like crazy after my g-bladder sug. until started drinking glutamine every 2hours.

I'm glad to see a natural product working so well, congrats. Not to change the subject but, how much glutamine and creatine were you taking? I am going to have surgery on my arm next week.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

I'm glad to see a natural product working so well, congrats. Not to change the subject but, how much glutamine and creatine were you taking? I am going to have surgery on my arm next week.

I pm'ed you but do 5g cm a day with biggest meal of the day. 2g of glutamine every 2 hours you are awake away from food. I'm telling you I was losing muscle by the lb. until I started this bc post surg. you really dont want to eat 2 much.

[freaker]

sorry for being so late, i had a urinary tract infection, along with pneumonia after surgery and i ahve been hurting pretty bad. I will not be on for about a month I am going to belize with my fiance on Tuesday the 31 of may here is the new test results that show DT worked.
FSH 2.0 (0.7-11.1)
LH 2.3 ( 0.8-7.6)
Prolactin 10.6 ( 2.5-17.0)
Cortisol 14.0 (4.0-22.0)
Estradiol <15 ( <53)
TSH 2.79 (0.45-4.50)
Total Test 485 (260-1000)
% Free Test 2.38 (1.0-2.7)
Test, Free 115.2 ( 50-210)
Chuck you did unbelievable with this product. I will call when I get back from Belize and unfortunatley I will be out of action for 8 more weeks. I also have my dad on DT now and he is 53 and he cannot believe how much better feels. You are my hero

I got your PM and tried to reply, but it wouldn't let me. Then I come here and see that your username is banned, and by checking your recent posts I see no reason why. Anyway, I'm sorry to hear about those complications you had after surgey, and I was wondering how things were going with you. We'll also make sure to get you a shirt and the other marketing materials you'll need. We'll be real busy in June because we have a show just about every week, but from what you said to me in the PM it sounds like you won't be able to get going until late July anyway. If you need anything before then, let me know, and good luck with your recovery.

[Eightpak]

Stumpman, excellent results. Hope you get better soon bro.

Chuck, congrats again on a successful product non-the-less. I just started my second bottle and looking forward to more great results. I wish I had the extra cash to do some blood work, would be really interesting. Maybe in the future!

[Malbolgia]

Stumpman, excellent results. Hope you get better soon bro.

Chuck, congrats again on a successful product non-the-less. I just started my second bottle and looking forward to more great results. I wish I had the extra cash to do some blood work, would be really interesting. Maybe in the future!


I was thinking something along those lines too, but I was thinking more along the lines of "I'm 30 yrs old, and it would have been interesting to have seen the before and after results". But I'm sure that I'll use DIESEL TEST in the future, maybe I'll just have to go off long enough for my levels to go back to normal, then run the test before and after.....I'll be 31 next Sunday.

[Stuart Rudolph]

Those are some interesting numbers Chuck, aside from the loopback on LH. How would you be able to fix that, or do you want to? Anyway,
I'm on day 14 of your product, and I haven't looked back. Nice steady gains across the board. Increased strength, virility, focus, intensity on workouts, mental good feeling, and good steady energy daily. There's another thing that I've been experiencing in the past few days. Sweating has really increased, as with the potency of my personal fragrance, WHEW! I exercise at home, and keep the temperature below 80 degrees, and it doesn't take much for me to start dripping. Would this be from your product? Anyway, everybody have a pleasant Memorial Day, and get some DT. It does work, period.

[Outside backer]

glad to see a before and after finally

[CHUCK DIESEL]

I got your PM and tried to reply, but it wouldn't let me. Then I come here and see that your username is banned, and by checking your recent posts I see no reason why.

Yeah that’s weird, I only see about 3 posts from him since May 10th not really about 2 much- then he got banned on the 29th of March.



Those are some interesting numbers Chuck, aside from the loopback on LH. How would you be able to fix that, or do you want to? Anyway,
I'm on day 14 of your product, and I haven't looked back. Nice steady gains across the board. Increased strength, virility, focus, intensity on workouts, mental good feeling, and good steady energy daily. There's another thing that I've been experiencing in the past few days. Sweating has really increased, as with the potency of my personal fragrance, WHEW! I exercise at home, and keep the temperature below 80 degrees, and it doesn't take much for me to start dripping. Would this be from your product? Anyway, everybody have a pleasant Memorial Day, and get some DT. It does work, period.

Same results I got. Pheromones were up really high after about 2 weeks. It seems to have an effect on 16-androstenes (odor pheromones). With me its weird because I never had sweat that stink even during wrestling practice. Never needed deodorant. Also I lost 5lbs the first week. Was really tired all day but was dropping bodyfat like crazy.

About the LH, its going to happen. I dont really want to re-formulate to prevent that because I am happy so far (even though its just one person) with the reduction in cortisol, Prolactin, estrogen and increase it total and free test. I said before I really didnt care if the lab test didnt show anything bc people love the product. Esp. those who show signs of low testosterone.

[Malbolgia]

Nice steady gains across the board. Increased strength, virility, focus, intensity on workouts, mental good feeling, and good steady energy daily. There's another thing that I've been experiencing in the past few days. Sweating has really increased, as with the potency of my personal fragrance, WHEW! I exercise at home, and keep the temperature below 80 degrees, and it doesn't take much for me to start dripping. Would this be from your product? Anyway, everybody have a pleasant Memorial Day, and get some DT. It does work, period.

I've noticed that I sweat a little easier lately too. Today marks the start of my 3rd week on DT, first 5 days was 3 a day, then I bumped to four a day for 8 days, and 2 days ago started 5 a day. In my own log I've noted that I feel more "thermogenic" than normal. Haven't noticed any new stank coming off me though. So Chuck, you gonna put out a DIESEL Deodorant soon?

"DIESEL DEODORANT, GET SOME. No really, GET SOME, you need it" LOL!!

Just clowning around there Chuck, I'm really enjoying the 3 products in my signature log.

[krahtos]

whats the deal with LH Chuck??, i couldnt comprehend it could you elaborate on it?? By the way, i have low testosterone. My total test showed 353, dont know about free and dont feel anything rare. So i want to give your product a try (by the way im 24). Im gona start a 12 week cut and want to know which should i use and how long can i cycle max and how long is it needed off time??
Thanks

[CHUCK DIESEL]

whats the deal with LH Chuck??, i couldnt comprehend it could you elaborate on it?? By the way, i have low testosterone. My total test showed 353, dont know about free and dont feel anything rare. So i want to give your product a try (by the way im 24). Im gona start a 12 week cut and want to know which should i use and how long can i cycle max and how long is it needed off time??
Thanks

LH converts DHEA to testosterone. Its is controlled by levels of free test in the blood, less free test should increase LH output, more free test will reduce LH. LH is also very important to libido. Low LH usually means low libido. Low or high LH output doesnt mean low or high test levels. U might have 353 total but have high free test. If you dont feel "low motivation, sex drive, mental focus" and you dont have "soft muscles" then u might be ok with 353 total test but that is low, but "low" is only something you can say 100% if ur looking at free test also in terms of low as in results and how u feel. Low or high on paper doesnt really mean anything.