Sixpacks Clout LOG

[Sixpack]

Alright guys first would like to thank Joey for allowing me to test out Man's Clout . I started taking it yesterday. I will take one dose per cardio in the AM with a scoop of whey . Also am am taking another dose preworkout at 2pm with my preworkout meal.

Current stats I am 167 in the afternoon about 8%BF currently lean bulking. I am taking in about 3800cals trying to get 500carbs 350gs of protein 60gs of fat. Other supps currently taking, Scorch, Sesathin, EFA's along with whey protein blend Ultra Peptide by Xtrem formulations and all other vitamins etc Vit, C, E,Mutli,B-complex. I have taken bulk CEE, Swole V-2 to compare this too also. I am looking forward to seeing what results I get beings Scorch has been a great product for me as well when I took bodyoctane.

My current workout routine is a 6x day lifting program I know its seems like alot but I am loving it as of now hitting each BP 2x per week. I don't feel like I am overtraining cause everything is spaced out enough for enough recovery. I am focusing on both lower volume weight and also in the 6-10 rep range and 3-5 rep range for core exercises. I do cardio in the AM and lift at 3pm as of now. I will keep daily updates on how I am feeling and any increases in strength, enduracne or over all well being/

I took the first dose last night and the taste overall was not too bad, a little tangy etc. I did notice a slight tingling sort of like what I felt when I took bodyoctane. Other then that I did legs last night so I felt pretty good I did 6 sets of squat in the 6-10 rep ranges , leg press 3x 3-5 , SLDL 3x3-5 along with the LEg extentions and Leg Curl etc. It kicked my ass for sure.
Doms this morning was not as bad as it usually is, I did my 35min of cardio sprints on the ellpitcal and felt pretty good energy wise. I took the Clout 30min before cardio this morning and felt very good combined with scorch. I will post my entire routine later today.

Goals shooting for to be up to 190-195 by July hehe

[sawastea]

Good luck JH. Didn't realize how much weight you lost recently.

[Npeart]

Six days is too much, bro! You cannot space out anything hitting each part two days per week. You will not be able to sustain this pace for very long without gear.

Your diet looks good, but cut it down to five days. I personally only lift four days per week and that is just right.

[Matt96teg]

Cool, looking forward to the log...I was going to start my CLOUT with X-Factor (which I started today) but I think I am going to do CLOUT afterwards and probably keep using BodyOctane throughout the X-Factor cycle. Can't wait to see results that people get from CLOUT.

[Sixpack]

Here is my workout my brother Beast set up me. He is killing me etc. I will be on this workout for 4-6 weeks and then we will go from there

[kendog]

So is this product basically supposed to add lean mass?

[chlaxman]

This should be interesting, as Clout looks like a decent product. Good luck!

[uhockey]

Six, you told me you were gaining man, 167 is DOWN from where you were. You've got to lay off that morning cardio so heavy man.......I know it's good for your heart, but so is an off day here and there. :) I look forward to the log. I just started on Dymatize's Xpand on Monday and will be considering Clout in the future depending on my results with Xpand and other's reviews of Clout.

[Sixpack]

Actually bro I was down to 162 so I have gained lol, by the way in addition to this I am taking GXR on the supp list and yes this can be used for lean mass gains

[Styleee]

Actually bro I was down to 162 so I have gained lol, by the way in addition to this I am taking GXR on the supp list and yes this can be used for lean mass gains

So is Derek "training" you online? What other stuff does he do in the whole deal? Diet, cardio, etc...?

[Sixpack]

He set up the workout for me etc, I do the cardio on my own etc. I highly recommend his training techniques and ideas very different then what I was used too



So is Derek "training" you online? What other stuff does he do in the whole deal? Diet, cardio, etc...?

[J-Rod]

Actually bro I was down to 162 so I have gained lol, by the way in addition to this I am taking GXR on the supp list and yes this can be used for lean mass gains

Are you still taking GXR. If so, great. I originally had 300mg of Regular ALA (could only afford to put that in and not the R, R-DHLA, or K-RALA versions that are superior), but it just burned the hell out of your throat so much.

So not only would CLOUT have a tarty and weird after taste, you would be itching like hell from the Beta-Alanine and your throat would literally burn!

Some of the prototypes were disasterous.

[uhockey]

Are you still taking GXR. If so, great. I originally had 300mg of Regular ALA (could only afford to put that in and not the R, R-DHLA, or K-RALA versions that are superior), but it just burned the hell out of your throat so much.

So not only would CLOUT have a tarty and weird after taste, you would be itching like hell from the Beta-Alanine and your throat would literally burn!

Some of the prototypes were disasterous.

Regardless, get your ALA from elsewhere. Very solid ingredient list and a great writeup for what each item does Joey, I will look forward to the log.

[J-Rod]

Regardless, get your ALA from elsewhere. Very solid ingredient list and a great writeup for what each item does Joey, I will look forward to the log.


Thanks. Look into the studies too. The references are on my site. If you have any questions, let me know.

[Sixpack]

Yup Joey I am taking 3 caps per day, one post cardio, 1 pre workout and one postworkouts. Its a staple for me etc. I have found it to be very good for me being type 2 diabetic etc. I look forward to the results



Are you still taking GXR. If so, great. I originally had 300mg of Regular ALA (could only afford to put that in and not the R, R-DHLA, or K-RALA versions that are superior), but it just burned the hell out of your throat so much.

So not only would CLOUT have a tarty and weird after taste, you would be itching like hell from the Beta-Alanine and your throat would literally burn!

Some of the prototypes were disasterous.

[UnleashedBeast]

I'm interested on how your results will compare to mine, even if mine is more focused on strength.

Good luck Sixpack.

[Sixpack]

Well took my dose today around 2pm before I hit up my chest, shoulder and tri workout etc. The taste is ok nothing to ride home about lol but I could care less about the taste I just mix a scoop with water and down it. I took it with my preworkout meal which was 1/2 cup oats, 140grams cooked sweet potato and 1.5 scoops of whey isolate. I also took one cap of GXR with this. The guess its really too early to tell I had a very good pump going as I was lifting on my prep hour from teaching at school. My rest periods are about 50 seconds to 1 minute. I hit up chest then hit up shoulders and triceps rotating from a shoulder exercise to a tricep exercise. My workouts usally last about 45-60min. My stamina was very good I just felt "ready" and wanted to get on too the next set.
I am not sure if this is a good thing lol as my heavy sets 3-5 rep range I should prob take a longer break beings they are heavier sets. I am trying not to train to failure and stop about 1-2 reps shy of that but its hard not too thats for sure.. Overall pretty good workout I am will be waiting for the strength increases for sure. I need to hit all my macros as I have been coming up short. I do alot of cardio etc so its even more important I hit the numbers 450-500carbs all complex no sugars besides natural ones
Tommorow is AM cardio and abs is my only off day , friday Back, traps and biceps
Six

[Sixpack]

4-6-05
3:45AM I took one serving of Clout with one serving of Man's Scorch with a one scoop of banana whey isolate. I did 38min of cardio on the treadmill doing my intervel workouts starting at 6mph for one minute up to 7, 8, then 9 mph for 30sec then back down to 6mph. Very good workout I did notice some DOMS in my legs that I worked on Tuesday lol, but I had not started Clout on Tuesday yes so I cannot that Clout did not help. I however have no DOMS from yesterdays chest, shoulder and Tri workout which is very good, My legs are always more sore 2 days after the actual workout so the soreness today does not suprise me . Overall today had a very good cardio workout, Heart rate was between 145 and 170 most of the time. Tommorow is back ,bicep and trap day. Today is my only day off from lifting , may hit up an incline walk at 15%grade at 4.5mph after teaching today.
I will take another serving this evening etc with GXR and my dinner

I will weigh in every monday also measurements.

[bachovas]

SP, what is up with the excessive cardio? Today is your day off and you may hit an incline walk later? Even though you already did your usual (and still excessive) morning session?

When is the marathon man?

Seems to me 3800cals won't be enough. What's Derek position on this?

[Lok7y]

1. I've told him at least half a dozen times to scale back the cardio. If he won't listen to me, he might listen if God spoke through a cloud and tried to dissuade him from incessant aerobics, but that's about it.

2. For J-Rod: Joey, do you actually have any literature indicating an r-isomer-only blend of lipoic acid to provide better anti-oxidant protection than a racemix s/r-blend?? I'm willing to surmise that the potassium-r-ALA offers benefits above and beyond other forms, but that's about it.

[J-Rod]

1. I've told him at least half a dozen times to scale back the cardio. If he won't listen to me, he might listen if God spoke through a cloud and tried to dissuade him from incessant aerobics, but that's about it.

2. For J-Rod: Joey, do you actually have any literature indicating an r-isomer-only blend of lipoic acid to provide better anti-oxidant protection than a racemix s/r-blend?? I'm willing to surmise that the potassium-r-ALA offers benefits above and beyond other forms, but that's about it.


I think all ALA works, it is just a matter of getting the best cellular build up of the R.

I certainly would rate K-R-ala up at the top. But I read a good article on the R-DHLA on lef.org.

I have not had the time or motivation to read any of the studies referenced, but I tend to find lef as a credible source.

Here is the article:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2005/feb2005_report_lipoic_01.htm

As mentioned I had 300mg of regular ALA in each serving of CLOUT based off of the Marangoon and co-workers studies of 31 healthy adults who took 600mg of ALA per day (2 servings of CLOUT would of given you 600mg) for 8 weeks and showed a resultant decrease in oxidative damage.

Another reason why I wanted ALA in the formula was to work with NAC.

Nevertheless, in the future, when I am able to do much larger runs in CLOUT and have been able to secure better pricing on the raws, I would like to include a form of R.

To me it is a matter of supplying enough active in order to produce the effect. I want to use doses that are supported by the literature. Otherwise, I am better off hiding in a corner, hype my product to death and start coming out with proprietary blends so I can list cool compounds for the FECK of it.

I want to point out in this thread I am not bashing a blend, as there are plenty of reserached backed and effective blends. It is just if I am going to promote a compound for an effect. I want to show my consumer the dose being used is what will work.

So based off the price differences with all the ALA versions, the only one that I could afford to put ALA in at a dose that matched the studies and would support a claim would be regular ALA.

Sorry for rambling...i took 3 SCORCH, 2 servings of Neurostim + C and 2O mg of Synephrine, so I am sort of zooming!

[J-Rod]

Let me add to this discussion, that you can do cardio and gain weight.

I will also admit, that I have not seen how much cardio Justin is doing.

How much do you weigh now 6 as compared to when you started CLOUT. This would be interesting, seeing as how active you seem to be and your goals to gain weight.

[J-Rod]

How much cardio do you do every week. How long is each session? How is the intensity? And what is the stimulus?

[Lok7y]

Let me add to this discussion, that you can do cardio and gain weight.


Definitely not debating that. I too gain best doing sprint-work twice a week. But I am definitely willing to voice my feeling that aerobics every single day on top of a strength training split is more detrimental to systemic anabolism, protein synthesis/adaptive response(s) to strength training, and anaerobic work capacity than it is complementary or additive in bestowing benefits.

[Lok7y]

As mentioned I had 300mg of regular ALA in each serving of CLOUT based off of the Marangoon and co-workers studies of 31 healthy adults who took 600mg of ALA per day (2 servings of CLOUT would of given you 600mg) for 8 weeks and showed a resultant decrease in oxidative damage.

Another reason why I wanted ALA in the formula was to work with NAC.

Oh we certainly like our anti-oxidants over at Avant; I can assure you of that.

[J-Rod]

Definitely not debating that. I too gain best doing sprint-work twice a week. But I am definitely willing to voice my feeling that aerobics every single day on top of a strength training split is more detrimental to systemic anabolism, protein synthesis/adaptive response(s) to strength training, and anaerobic work capacity than it is complementary or additive in bestowing benefits.


I think it depends on the intensity and duration.

[macapollo]

Joey , can you take Clout with either a CEE based product or just regular bulk cee? I am curently using Thunder ,but i am almost finished and plan on using strickly bulk for awhile.

[J-Rod]

Joey , can you take Clout with either a CEE based product or just regular bulk cee? I am curently using Thunder ,but i am almost finished and plan on using strickly bulk for awhile.

Yes you could.

But it is important to make sure you are using 2 servings of CLOUT daily to make sure you get cellular build up of the actives in CLOUT.

Not only creatine, but also muscle carnosine, and mineral deficiency. The doses and formula is built on 2 servings daily.

[uhockey]

Definitely not debating that. I too gain best doing sprint-work twice a week. But I am definitely willing to voice my feeling that aerobics every single day on top of a strength training split is more detrimental to systemic anabolism, protein synthesis/adaptive response(s) to strength training, and anaerobic work capacity than it is complementary or additive in bestowing benefits.

No doubt about it, but Justin can't be talked to about his crazy cardio routine. 7 days a week working within the 160bpm range of interval cardio for 30+ minutes is not only detrimental to systemic anabolism, it's not even a good idea on a cut. I agree with Loki here, the good lord himself would have trouble talking J out of this..............hence the 100% Clean bulking under his name for 6+ months and a gain of 5lbs. ;) Just messin with ya J, but seriously, a rest day won't make ya lose those abs.

[Sixpack]

I am 166 etc right now I do my cardio around 35 min daily not matter what. I split up my lifting and cardio in the AM and PM. My heart rate is around 145-168 for the most part. I have only been on CLout 2 days guys. I know I do alot of cardo etc but it helps me with my blood sugar levels. I know many are against me doing this much cardio. I am trying to kick it back a little but its tough. I am trying to make up for it by eating more calories etc.

Joey I am pretty damn active etc . My goals are 190-195 by July
J


Let me add to this discussion, that you can do cardio and gain weight.

I will also admit, that I have not seen how much cardio Justin is doing.

How much do you weigh now 6 as compared to when you started CLOUT. This would be interesting, seeing as how active you seem to be and your goals to gain weight.

[J-Rod]

I am 166 etc right now I do my cardio around 35 min daily not matter what. I split up my lifting and cardio in the AM and PM. My heart rate is around 145-168 for the most part. I have only been on CLout 2 days guys. I know I do alot of cardo etc but it helps me with my blood sugar levels. I know many are against me doing this much cardio. I am trying to kick it back a little but its tough. I am trying to make up for it by eating more calories etc.

Joey I am pretty damn active etc . My goals are 190-195 by July
J

Dude, you lost a pound using CLOUT?

I am going to go jump off cliff.

[Sixpack]

No lol I took my weight in the afternoon the first time bro. I have not lost any weight as this is only the second day. Would you like me to change anything up Joey?I am upping cals to around 4100

[uhockey]

Dude, you lost a pound using CLOUT?

I am going to go jump off cliff.

Don't do that man, you're one of the industry good guys. :) Just choose testers who aren't cardio junkies. Six, you gotta start hitting those macros and drop some of the stims/thermos if you're gonna keep with the heavy cardio routine. Perhaps a good carb up is in order........shoot for that 1000g of oats. ;)

[J-Rod]

No lol I took my weight in the afternoon the first time bro. I have not lost any weight as this is only the second day. Would you like me to change anything up Joey?I am upping cals to around 4100

No. Stay the course. Let's see how CLOUT holds up for someone with your type of training seeking LBM and strength gains. I think this is a good test of the product.

[Sixpack]

Ok Joey will do , Hockey lol 1000gs of oats sounds good actually. I am not a cardio junky thats an insult



No. Stay the course. Let's see how CLOUT holds up for someone with your type of training seeking LBM and strength gains. I think this is a good test of the product.

[Lok7y]

No. Stay the course. Let's see how CLOUT holds up for someone with your type of training seeking LBM and strength gains. I think this is a good test of the product.

LMAO@ "stay the course"... I love it...

[Beast]

Maybe you lost weight because you are taking more SesaThin that I told you to... That's right, I see everything!

Also Six, I would drop any caffeine that you are taking.

[waitlifter82]

Also Six, I would drop any caffeine that you are taking.

don't tell that to a man who wakes up at 3:45;)

[warriors]

damn six i didnt know u did that much cardio. if u get up to 190lbs by june or july with as much cardio as ur doing then u are definetely the man!!!

Anyway's good luck with clout

[Sixpack]

4-8-05

345AM - I took 2 scorch with 1 serving of Clout with a scoop of whey isolate. I guess I could really "feel" it this morning. I did the bike this morning and I really felt the thermo effect and endurance kick in etc. Energy levels were very high and my stamina was also better. I did 38min on the bike. HR was between 140 aand 160. I was sweating more then ususal. I also do abs after cardio, This morning did upper abs which consist of exercise ball crunches with a med ball and rope pull downs 5 sets of each to failure . I mix up weighted exercises with bodyweight. I do abs everyday hitting upper, lower, obliques and just rotate them . I have seen great results with this. I am hitting up back ,traps and biceps this afternoon. Will post results after my workout .
I will be taking another serving of Clout 45min preworkout with 1 cup oats, and 1.5 scoops of whey isolate. Also 2 scorch or EC stack.

[Lok7y]

Sixpack, please, I beg you:

On my review thread, I received the following question:


Can I bother you to tell why caffeine is the "sworn enemy of cell volumization" or whatever? We've all heard how it supposedly counteracts creatine but then many of us have also seen the studies showing this is not really the case. Not saying that I don't believe you, for obvious reasons, but rather I would like to know more about the mechanism by which this... becomes a problem, I guess you could say. I'm a big fan of pre-workout caffeine (& avoid it the rest of the day) so I'm very curious.


To which I gave this answer:



Adenosine at nanomolar concentrations inhibits adenylate cyclase activity via the A1 receptor. Chronic caffeine intake a.) upregulates A1 proliferation and b.) antagonizes adenosine. Adenosine antagonism will signal to a cell that adequate ATP is present (when in reality this may well not be the case), which subsequently shunts glucose uptake and causes cellular dehydration (1).


Now, with that in mind, peep these "righ' 'cheah":

Cell hydration and insulin signalling.

Schliess F, Haussinger D.

Int Rev Cytol. 2003;225:187-228.



Changes in cell hydration are critically important for the signalling towards metabolic responses to hormones, substrates and reactive oxygen intermediates. In liver insulin-induced cell swelling is due to a net K(+)-uptake resulting from the concerted activation of Na(+)/K(+)/2Cl(-) cotransport, Na(+)/H(+) exchange and the Na(+)/K(+)-ATPase. Insulin-induced swelling is essential for generating the antiproteolytic response to the hormone, which depends on activation of the MAP-kinase p38. Recent investigations show, that cell swelling induced by either hypoosmolarity or insulin triggers the activation of signalling cascades. Cell swelling by insulin is Ptdins-3-kinase mediated and contributes to the activation of Erk- and p38-type MAP-kinases. Conditions dehydrating insulin target tissues such as hyperosmolarity or amino acid deprivation are frequently associated with insulin resistance. In liver, hyperosmolarity impairs the Ptdins-3-kinase-dependent K(+) uptake and cell swelling in response to insulin, leading to resistance of MAP-kinases and proteolysis to regulation by insulin. Likewise, a reduction of insulin-induced swelling by the loop diuretics furosemide and bumetanide cause insulin resistance shown by the levels of cell swelling, MAP-kinase activation and proteolysis control. Blockage of the cell volume response to insulin may be the common denominator in dehydration-induced insulin resistance found in clinical settings such as sepsis, burn injury and diabetes mellitus.




Insulin resistance induced by loop diuretics and hyperosmolarity in perfused rat liver.

Schliess F, von Dahl S, Haussinger D.

Biol Chem. 2001 Jul;382(7):1063-9.



Insulin-induced cell swelling was recently suggested to reflect an independent signal for metabolic insulin effects such as inhibition of hepatic proteolysis, which is transmitted at the level of autophagosome formation via p38MAPK activation [Haussinger et al., Gastroenterology 116 (1999), 921-935]. Here, the role of insulin-induced cell swelling in the overall context of insulin signalling towards proteolysis inhibition was studied in perfused rat liver. Loop diuretics and hyperosmolarity, which impair insulin-stimulated cell swelling, strongly blunt Erk-2 and p38MAPK activation as well as proteolysis inhibition by insulin, but are without effect on insulin-induced tyrosine phosphorylation of IR-beta and IRS-1. Inhibitors of phosphatidylinositol-3-kinase (PI3-kinase) also block insulin-induced cell swelling, MAP kinase activation and proteolysis inhibition, but the antiproteolytic response to hypoosmolarity remains unaffected. We suggest that PI3-kinase-mediated cell swelling induced by insulin is required to amplify the insulin signal to MAP kinases and thus proteolysis regulation. The perturbation of insulin-induced cell swelling may be of pathophysiological relevance for the development of insulin resistance in clinical situations associated with hyperosmotic dehydration and loop diuretic treatment.



Other referenced study:

1. Ziegenfuss TN, Rogers M, Lowery L, Mullins N, Mendel R, Antonio J, Lemon P. Effect of creatine loading on anaerobic performance and skeletal muscle volume in NCAA division I athletes. Nutrition 2002 May;18(5):397-402


Please read that, and let me ask you some questions:

- You say you are doing cardio to improve blood-glucose levels. Do you know caffeine & norepinephrine are both additive in impairing insulin sensitivity, prompting partial skeletal muscular insulin resistance, and worsening blood-glucose levels?

- The synthesis of new contractile (re: skeletal muscle) tissue is an energy-dependent and energy-intensive process that creatine helps to speed along because cell-plasticity, volume, and ATP-state all factor fundamentally into the protein synthesis process. So what is the logic of taking a cellular diuretic that will antagonize the effects of CLOUT, to burn more calories doing cardio on a daily basis that could otherwise be used to foster systemic anabolism and tissue repair??

[bachovas]

4 hours of cardio per week + Scorch &/or EC + Glucophase XR + Sesathin?

Man, you said you want to get up to 190-195 by July?
Hell, you gain a single ounce and CLOUT is the freaking shiznit.

And what's up with the abs everyday? Losing points man.

[Sixpack]

Yes I am type 2 diabetic the GXR works wonders for me and my blood sugar levels,seasthin is great for overall health, the thermos I take to get kick before I do cardio which is at 345 AM and before I lift for a energy kick I take the EC. I do abs everyday why? Cause it works for me. Guys I am doing a log here if you want to bash everything I do don't respond this is for Joey and who ever else is interested.
Update :Cals will be upped to 4100
Thanks



4 hours of cardio per week + Scorch &/or EC + Glucophase XR + Sesathin?

Man, you said you want to get up to 190-195 by July?
Hell, you gain a single ounce and CLOUT is the freaking shiznit.

And what's up with the abs everyday? Losing points man.

[B-builder]

Im with Loki and the rest on this one, you want to gain weight and don't seem to gain any, back off the cardio a bit (max 2-3 times a week) and all those termo's while bulking aren't necassery either... that's just my opnion though, im not bashing or anything :)

Anyways goodluck, hope the product works well for ya!

[dito]

Good luck Six :)


Joey don't have any malice towards me :(

[Beast]

Please read that, and let me ask you some questions:

- You say you are doing cardio to improve blood-glucose levels. Do you know caffeine & norepinephrine are both additive in impairing insulin sensitivity, prompting partial skeletal muscular insulin resistance, and worsening blood-glucose levels?

- The synthesis of new contractile (re: skeletal muscle) tissue is an energy-dependent and energy-intensive process that creatine helps to speed along because cell-plasticity, volume, and ATP-state all factor fundamentally into the protein synthesis process. So what is the logic of taking a cellular diuretic that will antagonize the effects of CLOUT, to burn more calories doing cardio on a daily basis that could otherwise be used to foster systemic anabolism and tissue repair??

Exactly, I do not feel someone with diabetes should take caffeine and some others stims. There are other/better options for pre-workout energy (i.e. neurotropic supps).

[Sixpack]

Thanks guys I will continue with this log. Damn Loki great post good info looks like i should cut back a tad on the caffiene,

[youi09]

Sixpack, you are under 170 lbs, no offense but why arn't you focusing on eating and staying away from cardio? You got so many supps you are using its like they are your focus for gaining mass, gain some mass with some food and cut out the cardio or you arn't gonna make 190.

Then again I don't know your goals so its wrong for me to assume you want to gain lots of mass but eh you seem to be obsessed with being lean. you can maintain fine blood glucose levels without such high levels of cardio.

I just find it a lil weird reading this stuff, I know you have probably heard this before.

[Sixpack]

Alright thanks , I am focused on eating etc I am know nutrition is the most inportant part of it, I am a nutrition consultant so I know what it takes so you don't need to question the supps I take and my diet, My diet is as clean as can be . My work ethic is great, I have a postive attitude. Keep up on the log if you wish, if not that fine also. I am happy with my supp schedule





Sixpack, you are under 170 lbs, no offense but why arn't you focusing on eating and staying away from cardio? You got so many supps you are using its like they are your focus for gaining mass, gain some mass with some food and cut out the cardio or you arn't gonna make 190.

Then again I don't know your goals so its wrong for me to assume you want to gain lots of mass but eh you seem to be obsessed with being lean. you can maintain fine blood glucose levels without such high levels of cardio.

I just find it a lil weird reading this stuff, I know you have probably heard this before.

[uhockey]

Ok guys, seriously, six has admitted on many occasions that science isn't his strong point........it's just hard work and dedication.........and negating the effects of both with too much cardio. I mean, it's certainly your life/choice/etc Justin, but you wonder why you're perpetually bulking......Loki, Beast, myself and others are giving you a couple of reasons. With your dedication and already solid physique you could really stack on the lbs and look damned good if you'd only take a little advice....

P.S. Loki, seriously, you're just too ****ing smart.....

[warriors]

hey six u were over 200lbs at one time wasnt you???

[dito]

I'd like to see him do a bulk as well.

[Sixpack]

Thanks bro yes I know man , and LOki is too ****ing smart . Guys I appreicate the help its just a ****ing mind thing with me I tell ya. Once you have been doing something so long its tough. I have to take small steps. etc. I know I need to cut back cardio and hit macros etc, its just now doing it and not being intimidated by anything etc. I gotta get that out of my head. Thanks for the advice Mike as well as Loki etc.





Ok guys, seriously, six has admitted on many occasions that science isn't his strong point........it's just hard work and dedication.........and negating the effects of both with too much cardio. I mean, it's certainly your life/choice/etc Justin, but you wonder why you're perpetually bulking......Loki, Beast, myself and others are giving you a couple of reasons. With your dedication and already solid physique you could really stack on the lbs and look damned good if you'd only take a little advice....

P.S. Loki, seriously, you're just too ****ing smart.....

[dinopass]

3500 cals and 500 carbs is pretty heavy- are you burning more than 3500 a day? Goal is lean mass correct? So you are trying to stay or get down form 167? Seems like a lot of intake- I am asking for my own purposes, not critique of yours- I am 165 and about 7%BF- trying to keep this size and cut further- at 2500 cals and 100 carbs and 300 protien a day- any comments?

[Lok7y]

3500 cals and 500 carbs is pretty heavy- are you burning more than 3500 a day? Goal is lean mass correct? So you are trying to stay or get down form 167? Seems like a lot of intake- I am asking for my own purposes, not critique of yours- I am 165 and about 7%BF- trying to keep this size and cut further- at 2500 cals and 100 carbs and 300 protien a day- any comments?

Go here: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/

Buy the book entitled "The Ultimate Diet 2.0".

Read and apply.

Cheers.

[Sixpack]

Have u read any part of this thread



3500 cals and 500 carbs is pretty heavy- are you burning more than 3500 a day? Goal is lean mass correct? So you are trying to stay or get down form 167? Seems like a lot of intake- I am asking for my own purposes, not critique of yours- I am 165 and about 7%BF- trying to keep this size and cut further- at 2500 cals and 100 carbs and 300 protien a day- any comments?

[Sixpack]

4-8-05
3:15PM - 4:10PM -Back,Traps, Biceps
Had a very good workout today, I took one serving of Clout at about 230 with my preworkout meal. I guess today was the first day I could really feel it kick in. It seemed to kick in better when I took in more food with it. My endurance was very good at the gym and once again the sweating was more then usual. It was about 85 here today in AZ and the gym was a little more warm then normal. I went up 5 pounds on my BB rows everything else pretty much stayed the same. I am taking about 90 seconds rest between my sets of 3-5 and about 60seconds between my sets of 6-10 reps. I was anxious to get to the next set etc so energy levels were high as well as focus. I will see how DOms is tommorow and how the leg workout goes. Overall 8-10 on the workout today.

[Sixpack]

4-9-05 Legs- Hams, Quad ,Calf
Leg Press 6 sets 3-5 reps = 450lbs for all 6 sets
Squats 2x10-12 = 195x12 205x11
SLDL 6x 3-5 reps= 205x6 for all 6 sets
Leg Extention 3x 6-10 reps = 90x6 80x8 80x8
Leg curl 3x6-10 reps= 90x6 76x8 76x8
Standing Calf Raises 2x5= 140x6 140x6
Seated calf 2x 6-10=100x7 100x7
Calf Raises 2x 20-30reps= 45x22 45x22
Lower Abs -Incline crunch with a med ball 4x failure
Hanging leg raises 4x failure

Very good workout today workout from hell. I took Clout along with my preworkout meal which was 1/2 cup oats and 1scoop of whey 45min before legs. I felt very good today, endurance was very good as my partner and I were moving through our workout. As soon as one was done we would jump right in prob 1min break between sets. I felt a tingling type feeling similar to taking BO after taking clout. I actually like the taste of this stuff for sure. Strength was up 10 pounds on Leg press I got all sets of 5 so time to move up next week. Prob water weight but I am up 2 pounds since taking Clout so things are looking very good. This is my 4th day taking Clout. I will stay on the current program cardio in the AM and lifting in the PM as Joey wants me to stay on the current program. I will be interested to see how much DOMS I have in my legs Sunday. Usually I am pretty damn sore after leg day so we will see. Chest, SHoulders, Triceps Sunday.
Things are looking good for weight gain

[waitlifter82]

Things looking good

I think anything would taste good to you since you've been eating just oats and whey for years;)

Why are you so focused on DOMS?? It really has nothing to do w/ muscle growth or strength.... hell, if I wanted reduced DOMS, I would just use ETS (or so they say)

Anyways, I'm just looking foward to see if you get some strength and mass gains from this product.... numbers never lie

[Sixpack]

4-10-05 Workout Chest-Shoulders-Triceps
Great day today moved up in a few exercises for sure. I took one serving of clout in the AM pre-cardio and 30min pre-lifting with my preworkout meal.
Felt very energized and endurance once again was great. I had a huge pump in my chest and Triceps

Workout:
Incline BP- 3x 3-5 reps= 175x5 175x5 185x5- I will start with 185 next week
Flat DB- 3x 6-10 = 80x6 for all 3 sets(moved up 5 pounds on these was at 75lb last week)
Cable Crossover- 2x 10-12= 50x11 50x11
DB Shoulder Press- 5x5= 60x5 for all 5 sets , will move up to 65's next week
Lateral Raises -2x 6-10 = 30x6 30x6
CGBP- 5x5= 155x5 165x5 165x5 165x5 165x4(****) will start at 165 next week moved up 10lbs on these.
Skull crushers- 2x 6-10reps= 85x6 85x6
Pushdowns- 1x 10-12 reps= 80 x10 , parter and I did 5 drops sets in a row for the hell of it after this.
Overall great workout felt very good moved up in 2 exercises. DOMS from yesterdays leg day is not bad at all, but usually it hits me 2 days after lifting legs so I will see how they fell on Monday. Tommorow is back, trap and Bicep day. So far very impressed with clout and the endurance its giving me only on my 5th day
More to come

[Sixpack]

4-11-05 Back, traps, Biceps
Took one serving of clout at about 230pm with my preworkout meal. Workout started at about 320pm. Overall great workout best one yet since being on clout and this is my 6th day on it. Energy was very high as well as endurance. I feel more "full" you could say and my focus feels like how it was when I was taking bodyoctane. Weights also moved up in 2 different exercises. I am sweating more then normal when taking it for some reason. I took one serving of clout with one serving of San's Tight.
Workout
BB Row- 3x 3-5 reps 175x 5 for all 3 sets , time to move up
Lat Pull down 3x 6-10 reps 170x6(up 10 pounds) 150x 8 150x8
Seated Row 2x 6-10 - 150x6 130x8
BB Shrug- 2x5= 285x5 285x5(pausing at the top)
DB Shrug-5x 6-10 reps=110DB's for all 5 sets. I got 6 reps on each set
Machine Shrug-1x 10-12 reps= 236x 12 reps up 10 pounds
BB Curl 2x5= 90x5 90x5 up 5 pounds
DB Curl 5x 6-10 reps= 40x6 40x6 40x6 40x6 40x6 40x5( Time to move up on the first set
One arm cable curl = 1x10-12 reps = 40x11 40x11

Overall great workout I am feeling stronger etc and overall alot better. I am hitting my macros which is very important also.
I look forward to leg day tommorow . I will weigh in on Friday.
More to come

[Sixpack]

4-12-05
Leg Day once again went very well took a Clout dose around 1230pm today and workout started at 115pm. I took the clout with 4oz chicken,160grams of barley and 2 cups veggies.

Once again I felt an overall rush for the most part took 2 scorch with it also. The strength gains are increasing bit by bit it seems , Today I hit highs on SLDL for the most part was the main poundage increase on the lifts, Also got 2 sets of 205 for 10 on ass to the grass squats which I did not get last workout either.
The 6 sets of both Curls and extentions kicked my ass , I was only taking about 60 break between all exercises except Leg press I took about 90secs. I can tell I want to take less time between sets. I fell ready to "go" after each set.

Leg Press 3 sets 3-5 reps = 455lbs for 5 on all 3 sets(up 5 pounds)
Squats 2x10-12 = 205x12 205x10
SLDL 3x 3-5 reps= 205x8 215x7 up 10 pounds on the last set
Leg Extention 6x 6-10 reps = 90x6 80x8 80x8,80x8 70x10 70x10
Leg curl 6x-6-10 reps= 90x6 76x8 76x8, 76x8 65x10 65x10
Standing Calf Raises 2x5= 160x6 140x5- Up 10 pounds
Seated calf 2x 6-10=100x7 100x7
Calf Raises 2x 20-30reps= 45x23 45x22(up 1 rep)

Overall a very good workout, I seem to feel overall better during the day and recoverd. I have upped calories and lowered the cardio a bit to only 35min in the AM lol, I know its not much but baby steps for me here. Would like to know if Joey wants me to change anything as of know. Increases sweating once again more then normal . NO sides to report drinking more water then usual and pissing alot more. More to come, chest, tricep, and shoulder day Wed.

[J-Rod]

4-12-05
Leg Day once again went very well took a Clout dose around 1230pm today and workout started at 115pm. I took the clout with 4oz chicken,160grams of barley and 2 cups veggies.

Once again I felt an overall rush for the most part took 2 scorch with it also. The strength gains are increasing bit by bit it seems , Today I hit highs on SLDL for the most part was the main poundage increase on the lifts, Also got 2 sets of 205 for 10 on ass to the grass squats which I did not get last workout either.
The 6 sets of both Curls and extentions kicked my ass , I was only taking about 60 break between all exercises except Leg press I took about 90secs. I can tell I want to take less time between sets. I fell ready to "go" after each set.

Leg Press 3 sets 3-5 reps = 455lbs for 5 on all 3 sets(up 5 pounds)
Squats 2x10-12 = 205x12 205x10
SLDL 3x 3-5 reps= 205x8 215x7 up 10 pounds on the last set
Leg Extention 6x 6-10 reps = 90x6 80x8 80x8,80x8 70x10 70x10
Leg curl 6x-6-10 reps= 90x6 76x8 76x8, 76x8 65x10 65x10
Standing Calf Raises 2x5= 160x6 140x5- Up 10 pounds
Seated calf 2x 6-10=100x7 100x7
Calf Raises 2x 20-30reps= 45x23 45x22(up 1 rep)

Overall a very good workout, I seem to feel overall better during the day and recoverd. I have upped calories and lowered the cardio a bit to only 35min in the AM lol, I know its not much but baby steps for me here. Would like to know if Joey wants me to change anything as of know. Increases sweating once again more then normal . NO sides to report drinking more water then usual and pissing alot more. More to come, chest, tricep, and shoulder day Wed.

I too seem to have a much better overall feeling of well being. I have also put on a lot of mass and my strength is discusting right now. I hit a PR for reps with 225 on flat last Friday for 39 reps!

How is your strength and have you put on some weight. I also want you to run this for 7 weeks, so I am going to send out another bottle, if you will oblige me.

[Sixpack]

LOL Well I am not going to argue with ya on sending me another bottle bro I loving it. I weighed in this afternoon at 169 so that is the most I have weighed so far in the last 4-5 weeks. I just got done with chest day and is follows.
Flat DB 3x 3-5 reps = 85x5 85x5 85x5- TIme to move up
Incline DB 3x 6-10 reps= 75x6 70x7 70x7
CC crossover 2x 10-12 reps= 60x11 60x11 (up 10 pounds)
DB Press 2x5 = 60x5 60x5
DB Laterals 5x 6-10 reps= 30x6, 25x8, 26x8, 25x8, 25x8
Cable lateral- 1x10-12 reps= cable x10
CGBP- 2x5= 205x5 205x4 (did this on the smith machine
Skull crushers 5x 6-10 reps= 85x8 (up 2 reps) 85x7, 85x 6, 65x10, 65x10
Pressdowns- 1x10-12 reps- 80x10 drops set down to 50x10

Overall another very good workout I am hitting highs on a couple exercises and increasing everyworkout it seems. My mood throughout the day has been alot better and recovery from leg day yesterday is pretty good. My hams and quads are a little tight but not out of the ordinary. I did 38 min on the elliptical this morning doing elliptical sprints 30 sec hard, 30 sec moderate pace. I thank Joey for allowing me to go 7 weeks on this as the results I hope get better and better every workout. Tommorow is just cardio day for me. Thanks once again Joey I am loving it



I too seem to have a much better overall feeling of well being. I have also put on a lot of mass and my strength is discusting right now. I hit a PR for reps with 225 on flat last Friday for 39 reps!

How is your strength and have you put on some weight. I also want you to run this for 7 weeks, so I am going to send out another bottle, if you will oblige me.

[J-Rod]

LOL Well I am not going to argue with ya on sending me another bottle bro I loving it. I weighed in this afternoon at 169 so that is the most I have weighed so far in the last 4-5 weeks. I just got done with chest day and is follows.
Flat DB 3x 3-5 reps = 85x5 85x5 85x5- TIme to move up
Incline DB 3x 6-10 reps= 75x6 70x7 70x7
CC crossover 2x 10-12 reps= 60x11 60x11 (up 10 pounds)
DB Press 2x5 = 60x5 60x5
DB Laterals 5x 6-10 reps= 30x6, 25x8, 26x8, 25x8, 25x8
Cable lateral- 1x10-12 reps= cable x10
CGBP- 2x5= 205x5 205x4 (did this on the smith machine
Skull crushers 5x 6-10 reps= 85x8 (up 2 reps) 85x7, 85x 6, 65x10, 65x10
Pressdowns- 1x10-12 reps- 80x10 drops set down to 50x10

Overall another very good workout I am hitting highs on a couple exercises and increasing everyworkout it seems. My mood throughout the day has been alot better and recovery from leg day yesterday is pretty good. My hams and quads are a little tight but not out of the ordinary. I did 38 min on the elliptical this morning doing elliptical sprints 30 sec hard, 30 sec moderate pace. I thank Joey for allowing me to go 7 weeks on this as the results I hope get better and better every workout. Tommorow is just cardio day for me. Thanks once again Joey I am loving it

So this means you have gained 2 lbs in one week?

[Sixpack]

Yes I almost **** myself when I weighed myself honestly lol, I also upped cals by about 250. Unreal J. Do you need me to call ya or anything . I have not tried back since I talked to ya last been crazy at school. Let me know how long u want me to run it i have about 1/2 tub left



So this means you have gained 2 lbs in one week?

[Beast]

I hit a PR for reps with 225 on flat last Friday for 39 reps!


It's like that!? I'm scared of you... seriously :D

Good to hear about the weight gain Sixpack.

[Sixpack]

Thanks D I am sure it prob water though etc

[Beast]

Thanks D I am sure it prob water though etc

Heck no, it's ALL MUSCLE! Stay positive.

[Sixpack]

Hehe I am bro I have 4 days left on my current program then I will be switching programs 2 bodyparts per day 2x per week


Heck no, it's ALL MUSCLE! Stay positive.

[dito]

Sell me some protein bars!!!

[ry_francis777]

This is looking good. Nice work man.

[Sixpack]

LOL I am only doing the MRP's as of now brotha, come down and visit man hell you aint too far away , CO etc. If you want a MRP I will hit ya up. LEt me know


Sell me some protein bars!!!

[dito]

Where are you at?

[Sixpack]

Yuma, AZ bro about 10 miles from the border of MExico and 10miles from the border of Cali, 1 hour from Phoenix and 1.5 hours from San Diego, 4 hours from Vegas. I know u want to walk across the border hehe. Let me know if u need a vacations . Yuma is the fastest growing city in the US under a million


Where are you at?

[dito]

That's fecking far dude! Can I stay at your house and eat all your food, and use your toilet paper?

[Sixpack]

Ya sure if thats whay u want to do lol sick bastard,


That's fecking far dude! Can I stay at your house and eat all your food, and use your toilet paper?

[dito]

:D Hopefully someday I'll go visit you. Dunno when. :D

[Lok7y]

I too seem to have a much better overall feeling of well being. I have also put on a lot of mass and my strength is discusting right now. I hit a PR for reps with 225 on flat last Friday for 39 reps!


**** Joey. You training for the NFL combine or something?? What do you weigh right now?

*end tangent hijack of thread*


Nice to see some progress Six, git 'er done...

[Sixpack]

Thanks LOki also the vasopro alone bro worked out very well, I felt actually alot better without the "C" added to it, not a crash at all etc, I felt more hydrated etc and overall better. Thanks for the comments getting er done , well trying to up cals etc and hit my macros.


**** Joey. You training for the NFL combine or something?? What do you weigh right now?

*end tangent hijack of thread*


Nice to see some progress Six, git 'er done...

[J-Rod]

**** Joey. You training for the NFL combine or something?? What do you weigh right now?

*end tangent hijack of thread*


Nice to see some progress Six, git 'er done...

Actually we were talking about the NFL draft and the strong man contest at the pro bowl. My friend La Roi Glover of the Dallas Cowboys won. We went to junior high and high school together. Him and I played High School Foot Ball and wrestled together in high school and he was a BEAST then.

Anyway, me and this guy who is just one of those dudes that was just born with Herculean strength decided to try it on Friday, which is typically arm day for us. The first week I got 36 and the next 39. He did 48 reps both times. And the dude is 48 years old and clean. He might pop a couple of SCORCH pre training but that is it. Nevertheless talk about a pump and burn!

Now, my shoulder is a little jacked so I have to hold back a little on the intensity.

[UnleashedBeast]

Actually we were talking about the NFL draft and the strong man contest at the pro bowl. My friend La Roi Glover of the Dallas Cowboys won. We went to junior high and high school together. Him and I played High School Foot Ball and wrestled together in high school and he was a BEAST then.

Anyway, me and this guy who is just one of those dudes that was just born with Herculean strength decided to try it on Friday, which is typically arm day for us. The first week I got 36 and the next 39. He did 48 reps both times. And the dude is 48 years old and clean. He might pop a couple of SCORCH pre training but that is it. Nevertheless talk about a pump and burn!

Now, my shoulder is a little jacked so I have to hold back a little on the intensity.
:eek: La Roi Glover is a beast. I don't wanna brag or anything, but I did do 225 once one time. Oh yeah, that was quite the day :D
Hopefully, I'll be able to do it a couple more times after CLOUT, we'll see ;)

[J-Rod]

:eek: La Roi Glover is a beast. I don't wanna brag or anything, but I did do 225 once one time. Oh yeah, that was quite the day :D
Hopefully, I'll be able to do it a couple more times after CLOUT, we'll see ;)

He is and never gets the propers he deserves. At this stage in his career he does not lift like he used to. Mostly runing, cardio, Yoga and Pilates.

[Sixpack]

4-12-05
Cardio day only today took one serving of Clout about 30min before cardio with 2 scorch etc. Very nice cardio workout did 36min on the treadmill doing an intervel workout .ONce again the sweating was more then usual. The endurance I am getting during my cardio workouts is unreal. i feel i could go longer etc and maybe harder but I know I don't need to . I feel very recovered after my workouts and have an overall feeling of well being during the day. I will have to say this is working out very well so far. TOday is my only non-lifting day. I will be hitting up back, biceps and traps Friday. I have 4 workouts left on Dereks program then will be switching to 2 bodyparts per day 2x per week etc. So far so good with Clout.

[Sixpack]

4-15-05- Back , traps and Biceps

I took 2 serving of Clout with my preworkout meal which was 1 cup oats and 1.5 scoops of Ultra peptide. I will tell you that I look more fuller and my chest and arms look more full etc. I increased again today on a couple exercises. Energy was great and fatigue was not a factor at all. Endurance during cardio this morning was great and Doms was not a factor either.
Workout
BB-rows 3x 3-5 reps 175x5 185x5 185x5(up 10 pounds)
Lat Pull downs 3x 6-10 reps= 170x6 150x8 150x8
Seated Row - 3x 6-10 reos = 150x6 130x8 120x9
BB Curl- 2x 5= 90x5 (up 5 pounds) 85x5
DB Curl 3x 6-10 reps= 45x6(up 5 pounds) 40x7 35x10
One are cable curl = 6x 6-10 reps = 50x6 50x6 (up 5 pounds) 40x7, 40x7, 30x10 ,30x10
BB Shrug- 2x5= 295x5 295x5
DB SHrug= 3x 6-10reps=110DBx6 105x 8 105x8
Machine Shrug 6x 10-12 reps 220 x10 on all sets

Another great workout , I have 2 workouts left on this program I am on . Tommorow is Legs and Sunday is Chest,shoulders and triceps then will be switching workouts. Will weigh in again either Sunday or Monday. I am feeling great and lifts are going very well. This is the most I have weighed in 6 months

[RippedUp]

Lat Pull downs 3x 6-10 reps= 170x6 150x8 150x8


Pull-ups/chin-ups are more interesting exercises than lat pull downs.

I am in the possession of 2 jugs of Clout - thanks again Joey - and have started using it a few days ago. Nothing but good things to say about my lifts already.
Will give it a review or a log very soon.

[Sixpack]

That is what Derek has me doing right now, I will be switching workouts in 2 days. My last 6 weeks I had both Dips and Chinups in the program. I switch routines and exercises every 4-6 weeks.Thanks for checking in Ripped. I am glad to hear you also am loving Clout. What is interesting in your opinion about chinups rather then pull downs? How is everything going training etc with ya?


Pull-ups/chin-ups are more interesting exercises than lat pull downs.

I am in the possession of 2 jugs of Clout - thanks again Joey - and have started using it a few days ago. Nothing but good things to say about my lifts already.
Will give it a review or a log very soon.

[RippedUp]

I am glad to hear you also am loving Clout.

Just returned from a WO. One of my best in quite a while! I'm very excited about Clout and looking fwd. to the next training session.



What is interesting in your opinion about chinups rather then pull downs?

The former exercise is for men. :)
I'd use lat pulldowns towards the end of the workout, when there is little strength left.



How is everything going training etc with ya?

It was a downward spiral for the last few months motivation-wise, but all is starting to pick-up once again.

Your log looks good. Nice job!

[Sixpack]

Sound good ripped!!

Alright my workout today was the last on my current program and will be switching to 2 bodyparts per day hitting each BP 2x per week.
4-16-05- Quads, Hams and Calfs
Well for the first time is sometime I almost puked during this workout, I took on serving of Clout along with 2 scorch preworkout etc. Today was my 6 set Squat day so its was a fun one . Here goes

Squats 6x 10-12 reps, 205x12, 205x10, 205x10,205x10,205x10, 205x10, (Up 10 pounds first time getting 10 reps with 205 ATG
Leg Press 3x 8-10 360x10 for all 3 sets I was dying here
SLDL - 3x8-10 reps 195x8, 195x8, 195x8 (Up 3 reps from previous)
Leg Exten- 3x 6-10 reps- 90x6 , 80x 7 , 60x10
Leg Curl- 3x6-10 = 90x6, 70x10, 80x7
Seated calf Raises = 2x5 =250x5 250x5 (up 5pounds)
Standing Calf Raise- 3x 6-10reps= 140x6 140x6 100x10
BW Calf raise= 2x20-30= bwx20, bwx20

Overall a very good workout. My legs were jiggling after this and I almost hurled lol, I was taking about 60 sec rest between my 6 sets of squats and for all other lifts. Strength went up on squats which was great. I will prob be splitting up hams and quads on my new workout etc. I will weigh in again on Monday to see where I am. I need food right now before I pass out. CLout continues to get me through my workouts etc. I will see how DOms is on Sunday. Chest and Shoulders Sunday!!

Leg

[nick912]

Six great log brotha.. U have any pics before you started?

[Sixpack]

Yes but not a big fan of posting pics on this board, J-ROd does have before pics of me he is the only one that really needs any.The maturity level of the board is questionable sometimes. I have seen what Derek goes through.

Anyways workout today started a new split and workout goes like this:
Sunday-Heavy Chest, Shoulders- Light Biceps
Monday-Heavy Back-Traps, Light-calfs
Tuesday-Heavy Quads- Light -Hams
Wednesday-Heavy Triceps, Biceps- Light Chest and Shoulders
Thurs-Cardio only
Friday-Heavy-Calfs, Light back-Traps
Saturday-Heavy Hams- Light Quads

Well there is the setup the bodyparts that say"heavy" will get 2-3 exercises about and about 8-9 sets , the bodyparts that say light will get 1-2 exercieses and either 3 straight sets or 1 double drop set. Reps ranges will vary . Heavy days I may go in the 3-5 rep range for the first exercise then 6-10 rep range for the 2nd exercise. I want to hit all muscle fibers etc.Light bodyparts days are not lighter weight the weight is still heavy but the rep ranges are between 6-10 maybe 1 set of 20 etc.

So today workout is as follows
DB Bench 3x6-10 -90x6 ,85x7 80x10
Incline Barbell-3x 6-10 = 186x6, 175x7, 155x10
DB Military 3x 6-10= 60x6, 55x7 50x9
DB Laterals 3x6-10= 30x6, 25x8, 25x8
Skull Crushers 3x6-10 , 85x6 75x8m 75x8
Pushdowns 3dropset- 70x10,50x10, 40x10
DB Hammer Curl -3x 8-10= 35x8 for all 3 sets
One-Arm cable Curl-Drops set 40x10, 30x8, 30x8

Well overall a very good workout , I had a great pump going in my chest and shoulders etc. Overall endurance was very good. Doms today in me legs was pretty bad I was sore as hell both in my quads and hams. Feeling better now though after doing cardio in the AM etc. I will weigh in Monday etc. I have about 1/2 jug left of Clout. I have been taking 2 servings per day one before AM cardio and one 45min before I lift with my preworkout meal. Tommorow Back and trap day.
More to come



Six great log brotha.. U have any pics before you started?

[not_big_enuf]

That's one helluva lifting schedule bro. How long do your workouts typically take?

[EricTheRed]

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nice log sixpack

[Sixpack]

about 60min max, I take 60 sec break between sets, remember light bodyparts its only 1-2 exercises or 1 drops set for 1 exercise


That's one helluva lifting schedule bro. How long do your workouts typically take?

[Mr.50]

Sixpack

I am about to start some Clout in a week or two and I was just wondering if you have experienced any intestinal problems with Clout? Just want to knwo what to be prepared for.

Mr.50

[Sixpack]

Not really a little gas but not much

[Sixpack]

Monday-Heavy Back-Traps-Light Calfs
Pretty damn good workout today I am sweating alot more then usual during my weight workouts. I took one serving of clout with a serving of scorch about 45min pre workout. My legs are still sore from Saturday so DOMS is an issue. My focus and concetration seems to be very high still. I will weigh in tommorow. The workout
BB Rows- 3x 3-5 = 175x5 on all sets I need to move up
DB Rows 3x 6-10- 85x8 for all 3 sets(need to start with 95's next week)
Seated Row 3x 6-10= 150x6 , 120x8, 100x10(used a different attatchment)
Pullups 3x Failure = BW x8.8, 7
DB Shrugs 3x6-10= 110DB x6, 105DBx8, 95DB x8
Machine Shrug 3x 10-12= 235x10 for all 3 sets
Standing Calf Raise 3x10-12 = 100x10, 100x10, 100x10 , drop sets down to 40

Very good workout great pump in my back etc.I am looking much fuller and cardio is much easier in the AM. Strength gains are ok etc. I am looking forward to weighing in tommorow. Tuesday is Heavy quads-Light Hams day
Six

[J-Rod]

Monday-Heavy Back-Traps-Light Calfs
Pretty damn good workout today I am sweating alot more then usual during my weight workouts. I took one serving of clout with a serving of scorch about 45min pre workout. My legs are still sore from Saturday so DOMS is an issue. My focus and concetration seems to be very high still. I will weigh in tommorow. The workout
BB Rows- 3x 3-5 = 175x5 on all sets I need to move up
DB Rows 3x 6-10- 85x8 for all 3 sets(need to start with 95's next week)
Seated Row 3x 6-10= 150x6 , 120x8, 100x10(used a different attatchment)
Pullups 3x Failure = BW x8.8, 7
DB Shrugs 3x6-10= 110DB x6, 105DBx8, 95DB x8
Machine Shrug 3x 10-12= 235x10 for all 3 sets
Standing Calf Raise 3x10-12 = 100x10, 100x10, 100x10 , drop sets down to 40

Very good workout great pump in my back etc.I am looking much fuller and cardio is much easier in the AM. Strength gains are ok etc. I am looking forward to weighing in tommorow. Tuesday is Heavy quads-Light Hams day
Six


What is your weight at? And have you hit and PR's on any lifts?

[Sixpack]

Started the new split bro , I posted it a little bit down etc, Weight is steady at 168 as of today. PR's lifts are going up on a couple exercises. I will see today on leg day etc. Do u want me to change anything?


What is your weight at? And have you hit and PR's on any lifts?

[uhockey]

Started the new split bro , I posted it a little bit down etc, Weight is steady at 168 as of today. PR's lifts are going up on a couple exercises. I will see today on leg day etc. Do u want me to change anything?

Do you realize the pope passed away, they went through the required mourning time, and they selected a new pope in the time it took you to gain 1 pound? ;)

Not saying this speaks poorly of CLOUT as it's ingredient profile is definitely solid, but it does speak poorly of mega-stimulant use and daily cardio in terms of bulking.

Hey Joey, are there any logs of clout that you know of on the various boards with people who are REALLY bulking? Loki's review makes the product sound very impressive, and as I'm almost out of Xpand I believe I'll be in the market for a new Creatine product in the next week or so.

[pu12en12g]

are there any logs of clout that you know of on the various boards with people who are REALLY bulking?

There will be.... in about a week :D

Great log so far Sixpack... I agree with uhockey on the cardio...

[J-Rod]

Started the new split bro , I posted it a little bit down etc, Weight is steady at 168 as of today. PR's lifts are going up on a couple exercises. I will see today on leg day etc. Do u want me to change anything?

If you are truly trying to put on quality lean body mass, considering what we know about you, I would keep cardio to only 20 minutes of moderate intensity and 3 times a week.

Also, keep the thermos to strictly preworkout. I want you to SWOLE-Up on us bruv!

[J-Rod]

Do you realize the pope passed away, they went through the required mourning time, and they selected a new pope in the time it took you to gain 1 pound? ;)

Not saying this speaks poorly of CLOUT as it's ingredient profile is definitely solid, but it does speak poorly of mega-stimulant use and daily cardio in terms of bulking.

Hey Joey, are there any logs of clout that you know of on the various boards with people who are REALLY bulking? Loki's review makes the product sound very impressive, and as I'm almost out of Xpand I believe I'll be in the market for a new Creatine product in the next week or so.

There should be a few more logs coming out. I know one guy emailed me and said he was going to start a log on Avant. And pu12en12g is supposed to start one soon as well.

[Sixpack]

Tuesday Heavy Quads and Light Hams
Well I guys I understand where you are coming from etc, I need to cut back which I actually have . I am feeling better etc. I weighed myself this afternoon and I am at 170. Todays weights increased on my squats for sure I have also upped cals etc. Hockey brother you are too damn hard on me man give me a holla this evening please.
J_rod sounds good bro I am going to put on size if it kills me trust me.
thanks for the props PU12

Todays workout tons of energy prob my best workout since being on Clout.
Squats 4x 6-10 reps= 215x8 for all 4 sets time to move up next week
Leg Press=3x 10-12 460x11, 460x11, 460x10 drop set to 230x15 (Up 30 pounds PR wahoo)
Leg Extention 3x 6-10= 90x6(up 5 pounds ), 70x8, 50x 10( f
Leg Curl 3x10= 70x10 all 3 sets (drops set 1x 40x10)
One-legged Curl 3x10-12= 40 each leg x10 for 3 sets then drops set to 20 x8

Once again I am really impressed I felt great this afternoon I took one serving of Clout with a serving of scorch preworkout. I will see how Doms is tommorow etc. I have heavy arms and ligth chest and back Wednesday. I can tell since upping my cals and lowering my cardio I feel more recovered etc and overall better. I need to listed to you guys more often lol. Thanks again J-rod I hope everyone is enjoying the log so far. I am doing my best to give you the best log. J-Rod I have 1/2 bottle let of Clout. You still want me to run it 70 days. I think beings I cut down on cardio and upped cals I should really see some results

[uhockey]

Haha J, I'm just lookin out for ya, trust me, I know how hard it can be to cut down on the cardio. Having been very overweight as a freshman in college and cutting way the heck down it is always a struggle to gain weight because I fear getting fat again........but once you have the knowledge and dedication (as you do) ya just need to cut back a little bit and let yourself grow with the knowledge that any unwanted stuff can be trimmed off when the time is right. :)

[J-Rod]

Tuesday Heavy Quads and Light Hams
Well I guys I understand where you are coming from etc, I need to cut back which I actually have . I am feeling better etc. I weighed myself this afternoon and I am at 170. Todays weights increased on my squats for sure I have also upped cals etc. Hockey brother you are too damn hard on me man give me a holla this evening please.
J_rod sounds good bro I am going to put on size if it kills me trust me.
thanks for the props PU12

Todays workout tons of energy prob my best workout since being on Clout.
Squats 4x 6-10 reps= 215x8 for all 4 sets time to move up next week
Leg Press=3x 10-12 460x11, 460x11, 460x10 drop set to 230x15 (Up 30 pounds PR wahoo)
Leg Extention 3x 6-10= 90x6(up 5 pounds ), 70x8, 50x 10( f
Leg Curl 3x10= 70x10 all 3 sets (drops set 1x 40x10)
One-legged Curl 3x10-12= 40 each leg x10 for 3 sets then drops set to 20 x8

Once again I am really impressed I felt great this afternoon I took one serving of Clout with a serving of scorch preworkout. I will see how Doms is tommorow etc. I have heavy arms and ligth chest and back Wednesday. I can tell since upping my cals and lowering my cardio I feel more recovered etc and overall better. I need to listed to you guys more often lol. Thanks again J-rod I hope everyone is enjoying the log so far. I am doing my best to give you the best log. J-Rod I have 1/2 bottle let of Clout. You still want me to run it 70 days. I think beings I cut down on cardio and upped cals I should really see some results


I sent you two bottles right? If so, that is good for 50 days, and that is good enough for me to have you form a overall opinion on it.

I am most interested in starting weight and ending weight. And starting lifts and ending lifts during the cycle.

[Newport Surfer]

I sent you two bottles right? If so, that is good for 50 days, and that is good enough for me to have you form a overall opinion on it.

I am most interested in starting weight and ending weight. And starting lifts and ending lifts during the cycle.

Where are my bottles at J Rod? Haha j/k. I bought one of each earlier today. I should get my log going soon.

[J-Rod]

Where are my bottles at J Rod? Haha j/k. I bought one of each earlier today. I should get my log going soon.


Thank you for the business. I look forward to your log. You will not be disappointed with CLOUT.

Be fore-warned, however, on the taste, I give it only a 6.5 on a scale from one to ten.

[EricTheRed]

Be fore-warned, however, on the taste, I give it only a 6.5 on a scale from one to ten.

i'm sure if i can handle CEX...i can surely handle the taste of clout

[J-Rod]

i'm sure if i can handle CEX...i can surely handle the taste of clout

It just has a bit of a bite as the after taste. Other than that, it is ok, and better than most stuff I have downed.

Anywho, this is designed on science and to work. Not to be a replacement for Kool-Aid.

[Sixpack]

NOpe J-Rod u sent me one but u have mentioned u wanted me to test it for 70 days if not thats cool bro I am thrilled to have tried it out for ya.I am looking forward to the final results.

[chlaxman]

Anywho, this is designed on science and to work. Not to be a replacement for Kool-Aid.
I'd rather save some money on the taste and have a good product than a good tasting, overpriced product.

[J-Rod]

NOpe J-Rod u sent me one but u have mentioned u wanted me to test it for 70 days if not thats cool bro I am thrilled to have tried it out for ya.I am looking forward to the final results.

My bad. I will send one out tomorrow. UPS already picked up today. I apologize for the mistake.

[J-Rod]

I'd rather save some money on the taste and have a good product than a good tasting, overpriced product.

Reps for you my brother. I feel the same way!

[Sixpack]

OMG damn bro u are top notch, like I said before I really think it will pick up alot more now beings I cut back on cardio and upped cals. Things can only go up . Thanks once again. Tommorow heavy Arms-Light Chest and Shoudlers


My bad. I will send one out tomorrow. UPS already picked up today. I apologize for the mistake.

[Bammy]

I weighed myself this afternoon and I am at 170.

Me too, lets race!

[Bammy]

Well, I was 170 when I woke up acctually.

[bjj6569]

first to 180 wins!

[uhockey]

first to 180 wins!

Bammy will win..........

[Sixpack]

...


Bammy will win..........

[drewkowsky]

...
talk is cheap; prove him wrong Six

[Sixpack]

LOL I am going to try, hockey rides my ass about it all the time I am listening to him as far as cutting back on cardio etc so we will see what happens, I don't think he has faith in me


talk is cheap; prove him wrong Six

[uhockey]

LOL I am going to try, hockey rides my ass about it all the time I am listening to him as far as cutting back on cardio etc so we will see what happens, I don't think he has faith in me

I've got faith in your dedication and stick-to-it-ness, just not in your ability to let those abs go for a couple months to really gain. :) Y'know, like Kurz says he's doing.........lol.

[Bammy]

I wasn't trying to start ****, just thought it would be fun seeing as we are both lean and have a hard time gaining and are at the same weight the same day. Motivation.

[Sixpack]

Yep he sure is brotha, have faith in me bro.
Todays workout heavy arms-Light chest-Shoulders
Pretty good workout today for the most part energy levels were very good . I took one serving of CLout 45preworkout with 1 cup oats and 1.5 servings of whey.
Workout-
CGBP 3x 6-8reps= 195x6, 195x6 185x8,
One-Arm DB extention= 3x 6-10= 30x8, 30x7, 25x9 (up 5 pounds)
Pushdowns= 3x 8-10= 70x9, 70x9, 70x9
One-Arm Pushdown=1x12-15= 40x12
BB Curls= 3x6-8 = 85x6, 85x6, 85x6
DB Curls= 3x 6-10 = 40x7, 40x7, 35x10= UP 5 pounds
One Arm Cable curls= 2x10-12= 40x10, 40x10
Pec Deck 1x10 Drops sets 90x10 3 drop sets 70,50, 50
Upright Row= 1x10 = 85x10, 3drops sets 75,55,55

Very good workout I took about 1min between sets etc. I had a very good pump going in my arms damn it was unreal . It was heavy arms day on light chest and shoulders where I do one exercise on "Light" Day with 3 drops sets. Endurance was very good again. Doms was not an issue today in my legs after hitting em hard yesterday. I think cutting back on cardio is really going to make a difference in my recovery. Calories are at a steady 3700 trying to get in 4k. Other then that tommorow is just cardio day and Friday will be Heavy calfs -Light back and traps.
More to come



I've got faith in your dedication and stick-to-it-ness, just not in your ability to let those abs go for a couple months to really gain. :) Y'know, like Kurz says he's doing.........lol.

[UnleashedBeast]

Good to see your enjoying it, I know I am :)

[Sixpack]

Thanks bro your log looks great, I hope it only gets better for both of us

[Sixpack]

Well Today Thursday- Only cardio day today and my only day off from lifting, I took one serving of Clout 45min before my workout this morning . I did a intervel workout on the treadmill etc. Very good cardio workout as it seems like i have tons more enduracne etc. I am also not as sore in my hamstrings etc as I usually am from day to day. The last 2 days at work I have felt very awake and aware and am not crashing at all in the afternoons like I sometimes do. I just feel overall good etc I guess thats the best way I can put it. I will weigh in again on Saturday. Tommorow is heavy calfs, light back and traps.

[Sixpack]

Friday-Heavy Calfs-Light Back and traps
Workout went very well today as it was suppose to be light back day but I did some extra sets etc I could not help it . Endurance was very good, focus, sweating etc were all increased. I will be weighing in either sat or sunday.
Workout :

T-bar Row 3x6-8 = Not including bar here( 55x7, 55x6, 55x7)
Seated Calf raise 3x 6-10= 90x10, 100x8, 100x8 (time to move up on 1st set )
Seated calf raise 3x 15-20= 45x15 for all 3 sets
Lat PUll down 3x8-10= 150x9. 150x8,150x8
Prone Lat Pull down 1x20= 100x20(great pump on these)
Back Extentions- 3x failure= 15,11,11 bodyweight
Standing Calf Raises= 3x 6-9= 140x6, 120x7, 100x 9
BB Shrug- 3x 8-10= 225x10, 245 x8, 245x8(up 10 pounds)
VBar Pull downs2x8-10=160x10, 170x8( need to move up on the first set)
10minute incline walk at 15% grade

Overall very good workout endurance was very high both during AM cardio and lifting. Strength I can feel going up mainly in my legs and back exercises. THese two seem to go up the quickest . My chest is lagging behind so I am waiting for my lifts to increase . I just got the 2nd bottle of Clout today from Joey so I thank him once again for this opportunity. Heavy hams and light quads on Saturday. More to come

[Coulaid]

great log six... I have learned alot from you over the years but never said it.

So Thank You.

And great log!

And Could u PM me bout your personal training?

Thanks

[BigPoppaPump84]

What's your overall opinion on this product? I am almost finished with my VNS Jacked. I am contemplating buying this product as a replacement...

[Sixpack]

Thanks bro I will do so brotha I would be happy to help you out. Thanks again, my overall reveiw of the product is that its a great endurance type product. I am getting better sterngth gains then I did with just bodyoctane which is great. Pumps are ok nothing unreal etc. Recovery is alot better and overall feeling good during the day just recovered and refreshed. I look forward to the up coming week on this for sure. Thanks again guys



great log six... I have learned alot from you over the years but never said it.

So Thank You.

And great log!

And Could u PM me bout your personal training?

Thanks

[Sixpack]

Saturday-Light Quads-Hams
Well I hit some PR today for sure on everything. My legs are feeling much more recovered beings I have cut back on cardio. Endurance and strength were both up today . Also upping cals etc is helping out also. The workout
Squats 4x 3-5reps= 235x5 for all 4 sets (up 10 pounds)
Hack Squats- 3x 8-10=(not including bar etc) 90x10, 110x8, 110x8
SLDL= 3x7-9reps= 185x9,185x9, 205x7
Leg Curl= 3x 6-9 reps= 100x6(up 10 pounds) 80x8, 80x8
One Leg Curl= 3x 10-12= 40x11,40x11, 46x10
One Leg Extention= 1x15-20= 40x15
10min incline walk cooldown on 15% grade

Overall great workout today. I have a bad Sciatic Nerve in my backs so I have gradually been working my way back up on squats. I am very carefull going down etc. I hate the smith machine so I refuse to do squats on the damn thing. I took on serving of Clout 30min before my workout along with an EC stack. I was dripping sweat as its about 90 outside down here in AZ and they did not have the damn air conditioner on in the gym. Overall prob one of the best workouts so far using Clout as I am almost done with the first jug. Tommorow Sunday- Heavy Chest and shoulders, light arms
More to come

[Sixpack]

Sunday- heavy CHest and SHoulders- Light arms
Very good workout today pumps and endurance are very high. My lifting partner said my arms and upper body etc look bigger since last weekened when we lifted together so thats always a good . I will be weighing in on Monday as I am done with 1 jug of Clout.
Workout
-BB Bench 3x 3-5 reps- 205x4, 195x5,195x5
Incline DB's 3x 6-10 reps= 80's x6, 70x8, 70x8(up 5 pounds on first set
Decline BB- 2x 15-20, 135x15, 135x15( have not done these in a long time felt good
Smith Military press- 3x5= 155x5 . 155x5, 155x5
Lateral Raises= 3x 7-10=25x8. 25x8, 25x8
Arnold Presses 2x10= 35x10, 35x10
One arm cable raises= 1x15= cable x 15
Skull crushers 3x 7-10= 85x8, 85x7, 85x7 drop set 65x10
Hammer curls 3x 7-10= 35's x10, 40x8, 40x7
10min incline walk at 15% cooldown

Very good workout today and this weekened.I am feel more and more recovered everyday I think this has to do with cutting back on cardio etc. I was doing 40min ed now cut back to 35ed, its not much but its something lol, Plus hitting my macros is key also, heavy back and traps Monday light calfs

[Sixpack]

Monday-Back-Biceps-Traps
Overall today I have felt the best since being on clout still taking 2 servings per day one in the Am one before lifting in the afternoon. Hit up heavy back and biceps today I am glad I am on a set routine now over debating on some things I feel better recovered and i got a number of comments today that I look bigger hehe
Workout
BB Rows- 3x 6-10= 135x8 155x7, 155x7, 175x5
DB Rows- 3x 8-10= 85's x 8 for all 3 sets up 2 reps
Seated Rows 3x 6-10= 150x6 140x8, 140x8 drop 90x12
Pull ups0 3x failure BW= 8,8,7
Bicep Barbell curls 4x 6-10= 85x6, 85x6, 75x8, 75x8
One arm Preacher 4x 6-10= 25DB x7,7 20DBx9 20DCx9
DB Shrugs 3x8-10= 95x10,9,9
Overall great workout day had a nice pump going in my back and biceps. Currnet split goes like this

Sunday-Chest, SHoulders
Monday-Back, Biceps
Tues-Cardio
Wed-Heavy Quads and Calfs-Light Hams
Thursday-Chest -Triceps
Friday-Back-biceps
Saturday-Legs
Sunday-Repeat
Overall weighed in at 169 today which is up again. Not sure if its water weight or not but I feel better, look better and strength is going up more to come

[Colinballin23]

great log six, it was good read I have just tuned into this so I had some catching up to do reading 5 pages! I'm interested in CLOUT so I'll be closely watching your progress. Keep up the good work.

[Sixpack]

Today Quads and Hams-light calfs
Tuesday
Well today have a very good workout nothing speical really to report. More concentrationa and sweating then normal other then that not much else. I love the flushed feeling I get also my time between sets is very short . I am eager to get on too the next set. This all comes with the endurance added benefits of Clout. Great Pump in my quads today. Workout:
Leg Press 4x 8-15=270x15, 360x11, 360x11, 410x8. 410x8 , drops set 180x15, I do not count the bar etc
Lunges DB's 3x8= 50's for all 3 sets
Leg Extentions= 3x 8-10= 83x8, 73x9, 73x9
Leg Curl= 3x 8-10= 93x8, 93x8, 73x10 (Up 10 pounds)
SLDL= 4x8= 195x8 for all 4 sets up 5 pounds
O-L Curl 3x 8-10= 43x9, 43x9, 43x8
Standing Calf Raises 1x10 3 drops= 100x 10 drop 90,70, 60

Overall great workout I am flying through my workouts and feeling great. Nothing too speical to report . I am still taking 2 servings per day one precardio one 45min pre lifting. Just cardio day on Wednesday for now inless things change. I can really see a difference IMO in my upper chest and arms more fullness etc.
More to come

[J-Rod]

Today Quads and Hams-light calfs
Tuesday
Well today have a very good workout nothing speical really to report. More concentrationa and sweating then normal other then that not much else. I love the flushed feeling I get also my time between sets is very short . I am eager to get on too the next set. This all comes with the endurance added benefits of Clout. Great Pump in my quads today. Workout:
Leg Press 4x 8-15=270x15, 360x11, 360x11, 410x8. 410x8 , drops set 180x15, I do not count the bar etc
Lunges DB's 3x8= 50's for all 3 sets
Leg Extentions= 3x 8-10= 83x8, 73x9, 73x9
Leg Curl= 3x 8-10= 93x8, 93x8, 73x10 (Up 10 pounds)
SLDL= 4x8= 195x8 for all 4 sets up 5 pounds
O-L Curl 3x 8-10= 43x9, 43x9, 43x8
Standing Calf Raises 1x10 3 drops= 100x 10 drop 90,70, 60

Overall great workout I am flying through my workouts and feeling great. Nothing too speical to report . I am still taking 2 servings per day one precardio one 45min pre lifting. Just cardio day on Wednesday for now inless things change. I can really see a difference IMO in my upper chest and arms more fullness etc.
More to come


So what is your overall feelings on its ability to help with your strength and ability to help you grow? How much weight have you put on in how much time? Are your strength gains compareable to Unleashedbeast?

[Sixpack]

Strength gains are good mainly on my legs and back exercises the most,I am at 170 in the afternoon etc. I have cut down on doing too much cardio as i know its hindering my gains as well as my libio,strength and overall well being. I realize I can lean bulk and maintain a lower BF without doing 100hours of cardio lol.SO i exspect me doing this it can only help me etc.Its giving me more of a drive to workout etc, I love the endurance its been giving me etc. I will post final strength number when all is done. Thanks again Joey

[Sixpack]

Wednesday- Cardio day only
Well I cut back on cardio time I only did 32 min today on the elliptical 30min sprint 30min light etc. Very good sweat going . DOMS was mild but it was there for sure in my quads from the day before which is normal. I feel much more recovered from workout to workout beings I have cut back etc. I can tell a physical difference for sure. I guess what I like about it is everyday I take it get the same feeling. Its not a supplement you can feel one day and not feel the next etc. Its the same tingling energy type feeling everytime I take it. Tommorow is Chest and Triceps etc so we will see where there takes me. I am will be posting the weight increases etc on lifts after my final bottle of Clout. More to come

[chlaxman]

Strength gains are good mainly on my legs and back exercises the most,I am at 170 in the afternoon etc. I have cut down on doing too much cardio as i know its hindering my gains as well as my libio,strength and overall well being. I realize I can lean bulk and maintain a lower BF without doing 100hours of cardio lol.SO i exspect me doing this it can only help me etc.Its giving me more of a drive to workout etc, I love the endurance its been giving me etc. I will post final strength number when all is done. Thanks again Joey
I'm glad to hear that. I bet you stay lean throughout your bulk anyways.

[Sixpack]

Well clean bulking slowly gaining is how I like to do it, thanks bro for the words best of luck on your also


I'm glad to hear that. I bet you stay lean throughout your bulk anyways.

[chlaxman]

Well clean bulking slowly gaining is how I like to do it, thanks bro for the words best of luck on your also
Yeah that's how I prefer to do it, too. Thanks.

[Sixpack]

Thursday-Chest-Triceps-Light Delts
Great overall workout today. TOok one serving of Clout 45min preworkout with 2 scorch. Once again sweating more then normal its getting warm in AZ and the gym is warm etc . I was very focused today more then usual and energy levels were steady once again and I get the same feeling everytime I take Clout. I did get some new records today for incline DB. ALso two other people commented on how much "fuller" I look. This seems to be a popular effect of Clout reading everyones log.
Workout
Incline DB 3x 6-8 = 75DB x6 for all 3 sets (Up 5 pounds)
Incline Smith 3x 8-10= 175x10, 175x8, 155x10
Cable crossover 3x 10-12= 50x11, 50x10, 50x10
CGBP=3x5= 205x5, 185x6. 185x6
Pusdowns 3x8-10= 70x10, 76x8, 76x8, drop set 40 x7
BW Dips= 12, 10, 10 (great pump going on these)
DB Press 1x20= 35x15
Read Delts 1x10 (3 drops) 17.5 x10, 15x9, 12,5 x8

Great overall pump going in my upper body. I am also more vascular then I usually am etc. I will be weighing in again on Sunday to see where I am at etc. Like I said the physical appearence you can really tell in my arms and upper chest. Minimal bloat.
Overall very impressed on what is happening on the second jug.
More to Come- Heavy Back and biceps-Light traps Friday

[Sixpack]

Friday-Back , Biceps, Traps
Well today was a heavy back and bicep day for me with some light traps. I took one serving of clout along with 3gs of CM preworkout. I felt very good and focused with alot of sweating etc. I will weigh in again on Sunday see where I am at. Nothing out of the normal today everything went very well. I felt like i could of stayed in the gym another 30min but made myself leave as I did more sets then I planned on doing in the first place lol.
The workout
T-bar row 3x 6-8= 65*7, 65*6, 65*6
Lat Pull down 4x 6-10=160*8, 160*7, 150*7, 140*10
Pull down supinated 1x20= 120*15
PullUps 4x Failure =BW x5 for all 4 sets(back was dead)
DB Curls 4x 6-8= 40*7 for all 4 sets time to move up to 45's
Preacher Curl 3x 8-10= 75*9, 75*8, 75*8
Concentration curls 2x 10-12= 20*10, 20X10
BB shrug 4x 10-12= 225x10 for all 4 sets
Behind back BB shrug 1x20= 135*15

15min incline walk on the treadmill 9%grade 4MPH

Overall very good workout I am hitting each BP 2x per week about 9-10 sets each workout. I am feeling very good. Calories are about 3600 but need to up them. Feeling more recovered . Still doing cardio in the AM but have cut back duration. I love the feeling I get everytime i take Clout. Fullness is unreal for sure .
Tommorow Leg Day heavy quads and calfs-Light Hams
More to come

[J-Rod]

Friday-Back , Biceps, Traps
Well today was a heavy back and bicep day for me with some light traps. I took one serving of clout along with 3gs of CM preworkout. I felt very good and focused with alot of sweating etc. I will weigh in again on Sunday see where I am at. Nothing out of the normal today everything went very well. I felt like i could of stayed in the gym another 30min but made myself leave as I did more sets then I planned on doing in the first place lol.
The workout
T-bar row 3x 6-8= 65*7, 65*6, 65*6
Lat Pull down 4x 6-10=160*8, 160*7, 150*7, 140*10
Pull down supinated 1x20= 120*15
PullUps 4x Failure =BW x5 for all 4 sets(back was dead)
DB Curls 4x 6-8= 40*7 for all 4 sets time to move up to 45's
Preacher Curl 3x 8-10= 75*9, 75*8, 75*8
Concentration curls 2x 10-12= 20*10, 20X10
BB shrug 4x 10-12= 225x10 for all 4 sets
Behind back BB shrug 1x20= 135*15

15min incline walk on the treadmill 9%grade 4MPH

Overall very good workout I am hitting each BP 2x per week about 9-10 sets each workout. I am feeling very good. Calories are about 3600 but need to up them. Feeling more recovered . Still doing cardio in the AM but have cut back duration. I love the feeling I get everytime i take Clout. Fullness is unreal for sure .
Tommorow Leg Day heavy quads and calfs-Light Hams
More to come


Great Job with your consistency and fortitude to make things happen.

Is it possible for you to post CLOUT before and after pictures?

[Sixpack]

Well bro I will send them to you, I don't want to post them here cause of the maturity level of people on here amaze me sometimes is that cool? YOu will notice a difference I want you to see them for sure !!U want me to wait until I am entirely done right?



Great Job with your consistency and fortitude to make things happen.

Is it possible for you to post CLOUT before and after pictures?

[J-Rod]

Well bro I will send them to you, I don't want to post them here cause of the maturity level of people on here amaze me sometimes is that cool? YOu will notice a difference I want you to see them for sure !!U want me to wait until I am entirely done right?

If you have some now you can send than that would be great. I look forward to seeing them.

[Sixpack]

I will have to go get the digital at the gym sometime I don't have any right now



If you have some now you can send than that would be great. I look forward to seeing them.

[dito]

Well bro I will send them to you, I don't want to post them here cause of the maturity level of people on here amaze me sometimes is that cool? YOu will notice a difference I want you to see them for sure !!U want me to wait until I am entirely done right?

Don't be afraid to post them. You look good(speaking in a non homo way).

Dito has your back(also in a non homo way unless you really want it to be)

[Coulaid]

Don't be afraid to post them. You look good(speaking in a non homo way).

Dito has your back(also in a non homo way unless you really want it to be)

Bump
i would like to see 2(also in a non homo way)

I am looking forward to haveing six set me up w\ a diet and routine... Speaking of that I need to email him!

[Sixpack]

Yes u do hehe I am working on your diet as we speak


Bump
i would like to see 2(also in a non homo way)

I am looking forward to haveing six set me up w\ a diet and routine... Speaking of that I need to email him!

[Sixpack]

Another thing no matter how good you look people on here take pride is talking . Its not worth it J-rod is the only person that needs to see them from there he can let u guys know what he thinks

[chlaxman]

I totally agree with you six about posting pics. I was going to do it with my log but I always see how some people just bash anyone who posts pics. It can be a little annoying and it makes me not want to post them at all.

By the way what's your weight at?

Edit: Just found your post about weighing in on Sunday. My bad.

[Sixpack]

Heavy Legs today-Light Hams-Saturday workout 65min

Well today had a great workout took one serving of CLout and 3gs of CM preworkout. Energy and focus was spot on once again. No DOMS today at all from back day yesterday which is good sighn so we will see how my legs feel tommorow.
WOrkout
Squats 4x 5-6= 185x8, 225x5, 235x5, 235x6,235x5, 235x5 etc I cannot go real heavy on squats cause of my sciatic nerve etc. So I got ATG for the most part.
Squats Drops set 1x20= 135x20
Hack squats 3 X 8-10 reps- 90x10, 90x10, 110x8 (up20 pounds on last set)
SLDL- 3x8-10 reps= 205x8. 205x8, 205x8
Leg Extention 3x6-10= 90x6, 80x8, 80x8, drop set 40x10
Leg Curl 3x 6-10= 90x7, 80x8, 80x8 drops set 40x7
Stand Calf Raise 3x10= 100x10 all 3 sets time to move up
Seated calf raise 3x 6-10= 100x7, 90x9, 90x9
Overall great workout moved up both on squats and LEg press. As you can see I am rotating every workout doing squats one workout and Leg press the next etc.

Overall Like I had mentioned I am so impressed with Clout I bought another bottle but will finish the second jug and began testing another product. But I bought another jug cause Clout is something I will continue to use. I don't normally do this but its been a great addition to the lifting and cardio routine and overall feeling.
Tommorow is heavy chest and shoulders-light triceps
More to come

[Sixpack]

Sunday Heavy CHest-Shoulders-Light Arms
Great overall workout today hit some PR's in a couple lifts. Took one serving of clout with a E/C stack for some energy. Felt amazing throughout the workout and felt I could of gone longer, I did a total of about 23 total sets
Workout-
BB-Bench 3x 5-7= 195x6, 195x6, 205x5 (Up5 pounds on last set)
Flat DB Bench= 80x7(PR) 75x7, 75x7 (up 5 pounds on DB's)
Cable crossover= 60x12, 60x12, 60x11 (up 5 pounds)
Db Press= 3x 5-7= 60x6(up 1 rep) 60x5, 60x5
Lateral Raises= 3x8-10=25x8 for all 3 sets
One Arm DB Lat raises 1x20= 12.5 x15
Skull cruchers 3x 6-10= 85x8(up 2 reps) 85x6, 75x 10
Hammer Curls 3x 6-10= 35x8 for all 3 sets

Had a unreal pump going in my chest and arms etc. As you can see I moved up on almost all exercises either in weight or reps> My overall feeling of well being is at a all time high right now I think. I am getting more recovered every workout and motivation etc is also very good. Tommorow is heavy back and traps and bicep day.
Weighing in Monday

[Sixpack]

Monday Heavy Chest-Biceps- Light Traps
Overall good workout today nothing out of the ordinary. I had a very good pump going in my back and biceps etc. Strength is staying about the same etc. Weight in the afternoon was at 170 so no weight gains out of the ordinary. This is the most I have weighed in 6 months . Workout hit some PR on DB rows
Workout
BB Rows4x6-8= 165x6, 165x6 155x8. 155x8
Db Rows 3x 6-10= 90dbsx8 , 90x7, 90x7 (went up 5 pounds on these)
Seated Rows 3x 6-10= 130x8, 130x8 120x10,
1set of 20= 80x15
BB Curls=3x6-9= 85x6, 85x6 75x8. 75x8
One Arm Preacher-3x8-10= 25DB's x8,7,7 Up one rep on the last set
one arm Cable Curls 2x10-12= 40x10,10
1set of 20= 20x18
upright rows= 3x8-10 = 85x8,8,8

Overall very good workout I have about 6 days left for Clout as I feel by now its time to give an overall evalutation of strength gains etc at the end of the week I will post numbers of my maxes before and after Clout etc. Heavy Legs and hams on Tuesday. I am feeling pretty good overall during the day. DOMS today was not a problem from hitting chest yesterday. More to come
J

[UnleashedBeast]

Overall very good workout I have about 6 days left for Clout as I feel by now its time to give an overall evalutation of strength gains etc at the end of the week I will post numbers of my maxes before and after Clout etc. Heavy Legs and hams on Tuesday. I am feeling pretty good overall during the day. DOMS today was not a problem from hitting chest yesterday. More to come
J
Good log so far man, keep up the good work. I'm looking foward to seeing how your strength gains have been compared to mine.

[Sixpack]

Tuesday-LEgs Heavy-Light Calfs
Nice workout today I did not get the same pick me up as I usually do from Clout today. I still am noticing an increase in sweating etc. Strength gains are steady no PR today but overall I got focused once I got into the gym etc. WOrkout
Leg Press-3x 8-12= 360x11, 410x8, 410x8 supersetted with calf Raises 3x with 45lbs x11
Lunges 3x8-10= 50lb DB's for 3 sets of 8 got all 3 sets this week
SLDL= 3x 8-10= did not use straps today so I let up on weight, 195x8 for all 3 sets
Leg extentions 3x 8-10= 83x8, 73x8, 60x10
Leg Curl= 3x 8-10 83x8,73x8, 53x10
One Leg Curl 2x 8-10 - 30x10, 20x10
ONe leg Curl= 1x20= 20x15
standing calf raises = 3x 8-10= 100x10 for all 3 sets

Well overall great workout I am not sure if I am doing too many sets for quads during the week . I am hitting them on Tuesday then again on Saturday etc. I will have to think it over a bit. Pumps were very good in my quads etc. Overall I had pretty much the same feeling etc. Weight is steady etc i may have to up cals again etc.More to come just cardio day on Wednesday.
J

[B-builder]

etc, etc, etc! :D

j/k It's all looking good man!

[Sixpack]

Wednesday_Just cardio day today
TOok one serving of Clout with 3grams of CM prior to workout. I figured out why the increase sweating was happening it has to be from the CM added to it. Anyways I have some DOMS today from hitting up legs yesterday. I had very good energy though when doing cardio etc. This will be my last week taking Clout where I will be maxing out this weekened to see what increases I have made. Tommorow is Light chest and triceps , shoulders
More to come

[chlaxman]

Are you planning on logging anything after the Clout?

[readysetlift!!!]

Dude i would love to see a before and after pick of you man well keep throwin dem weights up man

[Sixpack]

I will be testing a different product after Clout yes I will prob a week after just to let people know how I am feeling when off of it


Are you planning on logging anything after the Clout?

[Sixpack]

Thursday-Light Chest-Tricpes-Shoulers
Well today was light day , what I mean by light is higher reps etc not lighter as in taking it easy. Damn this was a tough workout. I had a great pump going in my chest and triceps, going lighter weight and a littler higher in rep range got it going for sure. I was dripping after the workout I think its be caue of the added CM to the Clout I added.
WOrkout
DB Incline Bench= 4x 6-8= 76x6,75x6, 65x10, 65x9
Flat DB Bench = 3x8-10= 65x10, 65x9, 65x9
Cable Cross- 3x 10-12= 53x11, 53x10, 53x10
CGBP Smith= 3x 6-8= 195x6, 185x6, 185x6
Pushdowns= 3x8-10=73x8, 73x8, 65x10
One arm, exten= 3x 8-10= 25x10, 25x8, 20x10
Reverse Grip pushdown one arm=3x8-10= 40x10, 40x9, 40x9
Reverse Flys= 1x20= 70x15 3 drops sets 50,40,40

Very good overall workout today, great pump going on and muscle fullness. Endurance was very good. Strength is staying about the same so no strength increases etc. This is my last week of this log will post final results this weekened etc. Light Back and biceps tommorow
More to come

[readysetlift!!!]

Great job sixpack keep it up

[Texas Boy]

Ya good job keep up tha good work

[Sixpack]

Thanks guys

[J-Rod]

Justin,

Still waiting on those pics! And good job bro! I look forward to the final numbers in regards to strength, lean body mass and your overall ascertation of your CLOUT experience!

[shai1]

whats your current bf?

[waitlifter82]

whats your current bf?

Probobly -2.5% :D

[Sixpack]

J-rod the pics may be on hold etc my bro still has my digital camera and he is on vacation in SD ,I will post final numbers this weekened etc.I am also looking forward to the final numbers etc


Justin,

Still waiting on those pics! And good job bro! I look forward to the final numbers in regards to strength, lean body mass and your overall ascertation of your CLOUT experience!

[dito]

Hey six what would you do if you got the camera back from your brother and found a bunch of pics of guys weiners on there?

[Matt96teg]

Hey six what would you do if you got the camera back from your brother and found a bunch of pics of guys weiners on there?
Email them to you so you can put them on your desktop :p

[J-Rod]

Email them to you so you can put them on your desktop :p


F-ING A! So-True, So-True!

REPS!

[dito]

Email them to you so you can put them on your desktop :p

That one I have of you soaking cork is getting old. So some new ones would be nice.

[Sixpack]

SEnd them to you beings you are into that kind of stuff


Hey six what would you do if you got the camera back from your brother and found a bunch of pics of guys weiners on there?

[dito]

Do you like women sixpack?

[Sixpack]

Well I am married so...


Do you like women sixpack?

[Sixpack]

Thursday _Light back and biceps,traps
Once again I took one serving of Clout with Scorch preworkout. Today nothing out of the normal I guess I had a great pump going in my upper back etc and biceps. I felt very good and enduracne is always a plus when taking Clout. I will be posting numbers on Sunday from start to end as far as maxes and certain exercises and gains made. I weighed in at 171 to thats not too bad.
Workout
T-bar rows 4x6-8= 55x8, 55x8, 65x6,65x6
Lat Pull down 3x 8-10, 150x10, 150x9, 150x8
Lat Pull Prone 1x20- 90x20
Pull Ups 4x failure , BW x5 for all 4 sets
DB Curls 4x 6-8= 45x6 , 45x6 PR!! , 35x8, 35x8
Preacher Curl 3x 8-10= 75x10. 75x9, 75x8
One Arm Curl= 3x8-10= 33x10, 22x9, 33x9
DB Shrugs 3x10-12, 90DB x10 for all 3 sets
Machine SHrug 1x20, = 180x20

Tommorow is Heavy Quad and Ham day
Final Results on Sunday

[J-Rod]

Well I am married so...

In Dito's Voice

"to a man?"

[Sixpack]

Final Results had very nice Leg workout today to end this Clout Trial etc. I once again would like to thank Joey for allowing me to test Clout. I will try this again in the future for sure. So Maxed out on some main exercises the past 3 days to really see how far I have progressed etc. Joey puts out top notch products and I cannot say enough about the quality service and great products he has put out.

Start Bench Press- 205x2----------End BP- 220x2
Flat DB Bench Start-80x6----------END- 90x6
Squat Start 205x8-----------------End 225x8(Ihave a bad Sciatic nerve I cannot go as heavy as I would like
SLDL Start- 195x8------------------END 215x8
Incline BP- 175x6-------------------END-185x5

THose were the main lifts I tried to concentrate on , I wish I could go heavier on squats but I have to be carefull, I try to make up for it by going heavy on Legs press and going ATG squats etc. Overall I am very impressed what this has done for me I ended weight at 171 in the afternoon and started at 167 so not too much of a weight gain but strength gain for sure. I look forward to trying Joey's products in the future. Thanks once again, i will now be testing Diesel Test or Superdrol or Thunder. i am not sure yet .

[SKYWALKER09]

Thanks for the log Six, nice to see a good reveiw on clout.

[Bammy]

Nice strength increases!

[chlaxman]

Awesome log sixpack. Congrats on the gains and I hope your bulk continues going well.

[Sixpack]

Thanks guys I appreciate it


Awesome log sixpack. Congrats on the gains and I hope your bulk continues going well.

[pu12en12g]

i'm sure if i can handle CEX...i can surely handle the taste of clout

IMO, Clout tastes pretty damn good :cool:... like a fruit punch with some serious kick to it !

[Sixpack]

I agree i loved the taste



IMO, Clout tastes pretty damn good :cool:... like a fruit punch with some serious kick to it !