WEEK TWENTY-ONE :: What Is The Best Way To Meet The Opposite Sex?

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TOPIC: What Is The Best Way To Meet The Opposite Sex?

For the week of: April 1st - April 7th.

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Okay, so this week's question isn't directly related to bodybuilding, but many people that are trying to improve their body are doing it to impress the opposite sex.

Why is it that some guys seem to have no problem meeting girls? What do they do that is different than the guys who can't get a date no matter how hard they try?

Is there a best way to dress? A best way to act? A best "line" to meet them? How can you make it so that the girls come and talk to you instead of having to go and talk to them? Do nice guys finish last? Is it really all about money and looks?

What types of things cause girls to avoid guys? What are the biggest things that guys do that make it so they have no hope of getting a girlfriend? What would you say to a guy who says that it is hopeless for him, no matter what he does?

Give detailed examples and use personal stories from your experience if possible!

BONUS QUESTION: What is the best place to take a first date? What can you do on the first date to make the best impression?

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[bigcalves]

lol nice topic. hehe i gotta bring my pimp playa skillz for this one. LOL :D

All jokes aside, it will be an interesting week, i'll make sure i do a very detailed article. :D

[TRICK D]

LOL... I got a nice one for this weeks.

[krayZ]

Go talk to them?

[keepemseparated]

Go talk to them?
^^ that sounds good, but what if you're shy? you could compliment them, or you could say something like, "I've seen you somewhere before, I know it." and then ask her questions about herself. first date ideas= jetskiing, skydiving, movie, dinner at a decent restaurant, coffee shop, just whatever both of you can enjoy.

[c0vjek]

Get their attension some how.
I prefer to do something funny or stupid in my classes to get girls attension then i start talking to them once i do.

The best thing is walk up to them

[sticklegs]

get off the computer and go out in the real world.

[krayZ]

get off the computer and go out in the real world.

so true...

[IGF]

Is this an april fool's joke?

[mivi320]

What is the best way to meet the opposite sex?

Every guy out there wants to find that special someone that will impact their life entirely, but some guys need a little more help than others to truly find that special someone. Yes, you can attract the opposite sex efficiently. It's not all about money and looks, it's about you and your features that women find appealing. Here's 3 simple tips that will provide you with some assistance and help you to start to attract the opposite sex:

1. Your Body Language
You've heard it plenty times before, and it's true: your body language and your actions tell quite a bit about your personality. For men to attract the opposite sex through body language, give off the illusion that you truly are dominant and in control. Most importantly,you should obviously be yourself. Refrain from chewing gum or gnawing at your fingernails. This chewing or munching implies that you are worried or frustrated, and these emotions don't qualify as appealing or attractive. Sadly, there is no magic "line" to pick up girls,so abstain from using "pick-up lines" as they usually make one appear nonsensical and quite foolish. If you're composed and amiable, you'll have girls coming to talk to you, instead of you having to go talk to them. Stay calm and be yourself, and you'll be fine.
2. Show off those teeth
Smiling obviously makes one more approachable and attractive, so show off that grill! Now, don't give off some big and cheesy smile, as this will just make you look like a fool. Simply, flash off a "relaxed" smile. This will give the impression to the opposite sex that you're a friendly, affable, benevolent guy who knows how to have a good time.
3. Hygiene
It's quite comprehensible that a dirty and smelly guy has little to no chance of ever coming off as an attractive guy. Scent is said to be the most remembered asset. Just another good reason for you to improve your hygiene. Make sure you bathe, brush your teeth regularly,apply fresh smelling cologne (not too much), and sport an invigorating deodorant. Be sure to shave on a regular basis as well, and keep your beard trimmed if you happen to have one. What about clothes and the way to dress? That's an easy one. Dress accordingly to your style; meaning dress in a manner that reveals your confidence and realization of yourself as an individual entity or personality to make the best of what you have, and contemplating on your qualities and good characteristics, whilst neglecting the bad.
Avoidances
Now that we've got the 3 simple guidelines on how to attract the opposite sex, let's tackle some other tips and things to avoid when meeting and attracting yourself to the other gender.
1. Don't complain!
Do you like being in the presence of someone who whines and complains? Neither do women. Don't be so negative when conversing with a member of the opposite sex. Be cheerful and positive, and you won't appear as some pessimistic and hopelessness man.
2. Don't argue!
When talking with the opposite sex, refrain from arguing at all costs. Think about it, if you disagree with her, you're going to disrespect her. You'll give the impression of a distasteful and insulting human being. To put it simple: Forbear from arguing!
3. Don't be forgetful!
This one is pretty easy. If you tell a woman you're going to give her a call sometime, don't forget to do it! Stick to your word and do what you say. If you say you'll pick up your date at a particular time, don't show up 20 minutes late. Use a memo-pad or keep a planner if you have trouble remembering things.

What is the best place to take a first date? What can you do on the first date to make the best impression?
Now that we have the tips and avoidances down to a science, it's now time to discuss the best place for a first date with that special someone. When it comes to a first date, find something that you and your date have in common. If you both love action movies, then attend an action movie followed by a nice meal. First dates are meant to be fun and exciting so you can get a feel for one another, so don't make it a stressful situation. When conversing with your date, listen actively to what she says. Do not interrupt her while she is speaking. Pay attention to your date, and focus on the person you're with. Use your manners, be yourself, stay positive and you'll make a great impression on your very first date! But most importantly, have fun!

Best of luck!
Mike

[cardioking]

Great topic.

First of all, try picking up a member of the opposite sex in a location where you would actually hang out at. If your a hellion and only want sex maybe its not such a good idea to look for a date at church. Same thing goes for the church-goer, if your looking for something meaningful then don't go to the bar. You always want someone that is somewhat like you in terms of likes and dislikes or your just going to disagree all of the time. Second off, I don't care what anyone says, money and looks do not matter as much as people think. Its all confidence. Notice I did not say cocky... Cocky will get you sitting at the bar by yourself for the rest of your life.

I honestly believe that the way to attract a member of the opposite sex is not to spout off the latest lines, flex your muscles or flash a wad of cash but to approach with confidence, kindness and a willingness to listen to what they have to say. Do not make this all about you. Listen, ask questions and look interested. Do not be pushy. If they don't like you now and you keep at it, they aren't going to like you later either.

The opposite sex also likes a well groomed, hygenic, and nice smelling person. Do not confuse this with looks because bad hygiene is nasty no matter how good you look.

I would say to someone who says they can't get a date no matter how hard they try to stop trying. It will come to you when its time. If your getting turned down left and right your confidence will go down hill. However, if you sit back a pick your targets you will appear less desperate and your confidence will be as high as ever because that particular person will feel more special and less like your settling for them.

[killer4605]

become a gynecologist

[bigcalves]

What Is The Best Way To Meet The Opposite Sex?

In this article we will discuss the the best way to meet memebers of the oposite sex. The points we're going to discuss are general and will work for both males, and females.



Not Being Able to Meet Anyone

Hmm.. How could that be? Well, its most likely because you don't talk to anyone. The first rule is always 'present yourself' and put yourself 'out there' to show that your available and intrested. In the animal kingdom animals have specific dances and rituals that say ' i like you', and you have to relate to that, but not riterally. Remember, first impression is VERY important.


TIPS:

- Have CONFIDENCE in yourself. If you don't, who will?
- Have a cheerful smile on your face, that will make you look more 'like-able'.
- Go out and TALK to members of the opposite sex.
- Without showing interest, there's no chance to make a potential 'hook up'.
- Look more relaxed, and don't force yourself on other people, if it looks like
they don't seem interested, don't push it.



Looking Good

When approaching someone, physical appearence is very important. You can't just waltz in and espect everyone to understand you as a person. How you look, doesn't just talk about appearance, but how you manage your life. What is important to you, and your skills in life.


Factors for Physical Appearance

Aside from looking good physically, which i will assume you do, from your bodybuilding/fitness lifestyle, there are some more factors that will decide how a potential mate looks at you.


Hair

Hair is very important. It takes about 50% of your head, so when someone looks at you, and forms a first impression hair is very important. For guys a short, neat haircut is very fasionable right now. As for women a long, and straight/silky kind of hair is fasionable and very sexy. Always remember that in our society hair is very, very important.


TIPS ON HAIR

- Buy some good quality gel, and with a neat and short hair cut, put some gel in your hair and mix things up (For Guys).
- As for women, hair straighteners, and specially designed gels for women to get you a soft, weightless look.
- Go to the barber at least once every 4-6 weeks to keep your hair fresh and to be able to keep a good fasionable hairstyle.


Face

Your face is the rest 50% of you face. In our society, we pay alot of time on our faces. Your face is classified as your 'image' so it is very important to have a basic upkeep on your face.


TIPS ON FACE

- Use a face washer to keep your face pimple and bacteria free.
- If you have acne, treat it with medicine to get rid of those ugly blemishes.
- For women- Use a good amount of make up, nothing too much.
- For guys- As guys, we have it easier, so washing your face and removing that funny looking uni-brown will be enough.


Teeth/Breath

Your teeth are very important. It's important to keep them clean, bacteria free and white. Also your breath will benefit from that and you will smell fresh and nice. When you smile your teeth 'pop' out and that's the first thing a person notices. Nice looking teeth will give the impresion that you are clean, responsible and take care of yourself.


TIPS ON TEETH/BREATH

- Always brush your teeth and use floss, that prevents bacteria and future problems.
-Go out and buy a good working Teeth Whitener. That will clean up your teeth and make them nice and white.
- Always carry mints/mint strips to fight bad breath, and to keep your mouth bacteria free from future problems.


Clothing

Clothes make a good impression. It is very important to wear nice clothes, that are fasionable, and nothing out of the ordinary. After all you may have your own style, but that may not appeal to average people. So take up the average/casual fasion. Dress classy, yet not too 'preppy', but also don't dress too average or sporty. A balance between the casual and sporty will do the trick.


TIPS ON CLOTHING

- Dress casual, nothing too fancy.
- Always iron your clothes, and make a clean/fresh look impression.
- Have 2-4 pair of shoes to change with different outfits.
- Try and match your clothes based on stlye and clothes.


Smelling Good

Smelling good is very important. They say smell is the strongest sense tied to memory. So you want to be remembered by a nice, clean, fresh smell. Guys appreciate a girl that smells good, and likewise, girls go crazy for a guy with a nice cologne.


TIPS ON SMELLING GREAT

- Buy an good smelling cologne/perfume.
- Buy a good smelling body spray, for after showers.
- Always put on deodorant.
- Take a shower atleast once per day, it doesn't have to be a 40min. shower, just a brisk refreshing shower.


Tanning

People assosiate a tan with being healthy. A nice tan always looks good on anyone, male or female. Be careful not to go overboard and looking like you jumped out of a toaster. Just a nice tan that will make your skin softer, a little darker, and more healthier.


TIPS ON TANNING

- Remember, don't go overboard. A nice, not too dark tan is sufficient.
- Here's a simple tanning routine:
:2-3 times per week
:10-20 minutes per session
:Apply sencreen to avoid burns
:Moisturize after tanning to keep tan


Personality

Physical appearance can give you so much. If you open your mouth and say somehting stupid, your 'hook' up will end. You have to be smooth, and confident. People always look for a personality in a person, because the body might fade away, but the person inside won't.

Style and Confidence

You have to have your own style. It will define you as a person and it will help you be an original person, and that will attract members of the opposite sex. Be original, and most importantly, be yourself. Because if someone likes you, and they like you for yourself, you got it made!


Being CONFIDENT or COCKY

Confidence is good. Cockyness is good to an extend. After a while being cocky gets on people's nerves. Vanity is a part of bodybuilding/fitness and that will usually bring cockyness. People that workout and take care of themselfves have a stereotype of being cocky, arrogant and self-centered. Those qualities will not get you a girl, and the sooner you stop, the better. No one says a little cockyness will hurt you, some women like it, but i'm confident enough to say that no one likes a 24/7 cocky, self-centered person. Most girls will avoid guys, because they are too into themselves.


There is Hope for everyone

There is hope! Even if your the last person that would ever find a date, it will workout. After reading all the info on here, follow these steps for success in the dating life:

1.) Read the article. Perform all the steps in getting in good physical shape.
After fixing yourself up, take a nice shower, put on some cologne, dress
nice and head out the door.

2.) Go into a local club. Find a good looking woman that you think is
attractive. Talk to her, don't say anything too personal, but don't be too
distant.

3.) Be confident. Don't brag about yourself, but don't be too humble.

4.) After talking, buy a drink and be a gentlemen. Gils find that attractive.

5.) After spending a good time with her, take her number and excuse yourself.
Why you ask? Well you just completed the first step of knowing someone.
Your goal is completed, you can now call her after a few days, and make
a date somewhere, and see if she's the right one for you.



BONUS QUESTION: First Date, and What To Do

OK, so you already met someone. Now it's time for a first date. The point here is to be original, but also not to do anything out of the ordinary. Here are some places for a good first date.


FIRST DATE PLACES

- Taker her to the movies (DUH).
- A local sports event that you'll both enjoy (baseball, basketball,soccer).
- Museum/Art Center is a perfect place to show your cultural side.
- A nice restoraunt is the classic date for a perfect match.
- Picnic, is a nice place to share food, good weather and good conversation.
- Any other event that will you both enjoy will work.

Always carry good conversation. Don't have a silent time. Have a good time, be relaxed and get to know each other, after all that is the point of the date.



Well, this is it. After reading and following my advice, you will be confident and able to walk up to someone, meet them and eventually start something. Good luck!

[htxRed]

I think first you have to do your homework.. Clubs/bars are a bad place because 90% of the time the girls there are on defense mode due to all the other scrubs. And also if you are not baller status, most wont give you the time of day.

i personally go to the mall. its alot easier and the lighting is better, that way you wont make any mistakes... hahaha and theres no alcohol so you dont have to owrry about that factor either.

i usually bring a friend or go with my sister, and i follow her into the female clothing stores.. i'll scope it out and find someone more my level.. when i say level, i mean dont jump the gun and go for the top star material girl in there cause if you look like me you'll be shot down. fact of life. deal.

act like you're looking for somethin for your sister/friend and ask other girls what they think, or if you walk by a girl checkin out something, tell her she'll look good in that, **** like that

LAUGHTER IS A MUST if you want her to think about you later. girls always remember guys who make em laugh.

[bigcalves]

good articles so far :D

[mivi320]

good articles so far :D

Bump.

Incredible articles guys.

[minicooban]

LOL... I got a nice one for this weeks.


hey trick d,u forgot to mention how much you squat,remember that girls like guys with impressive arms and large upper body muscles but when they see you in shorts they got so dessapointed cause proportion is the key,girls like guys with strong legs and not to mention that a flat butt may be a trurn off for some of them,if you're one of those guys that think they have an upper body and forget the larger muscles of your body do more squats and legs excercices,im 140 lbs and i squat 280 lbs,my doble size ,and when i go to the beach all the girls become crazy about my monster legs!!

[keepemseparated]

i think bigcalves won. hehehe :D

[bigcalves]

i think bigcalves won. hehehe :D

hehe hopefully. :D

I spend a long, long time thinking of ideas, making an outline, typing it, editing it, editing it again, and then finally posting it. :)

[martymcfly]

Show Em The Goods!
Bwahahahahha

[Ironman88]

What Is The Best Way To Meet The Opposite Sex?

You may ask yourself....What is the best way to meet/attract the opposite sex? This is a question with a very complicated answer. There are many things one must do to attract and be ready to meet and interact with the opposite sex. This article will go over step by step what is needed and ultimately answer the question: "What is the best way to meet/attract the opposite sex?"


Why is it that some guys seem to have no problem meeting girls? What do they do that is different than the guys who can't get a date no matter how hard they try?

This could be answered with one word: Confidence. A man with confidence and a good personality can get almost any woman he wants. Rule number one when meeting and talking to a woman is to always have confidence in yourself. Most woman realize what kind of effect they have on men and will try to exploit this to there advantage. Most woman will realize they have the ability to make men nervous sometimes to the point where they will stutter or slur there words or worse. When they find a man that is not effected by there charms and influence they are impressed. So in the case of most women personality and confidence are more important then appearence. Not that appearence doesn't help, having a great body is just another tool to be used in attracting and meeting the opposite sex. When meeting a member of the opposite sex always make sure to keep a conversation going. Be sure to use many compliments when talking with a member of the opposite sex, women love this. The worst thing that could possibly happen when meeting a member of the opposite sex is to let an awkward silence befall upon the two of you. Just make sure the conversation never runs dry and if you sense that it is about to then say you have to go or I'll talk to you later, something along those lines to keep your chances with this woman intact. If this happens you can kiss all hope of ever dating or going further with this woman. Now there is a point where trying to hard to impress a woman can backfire. Never replace confidence with cockyness, as most woman hate cockyness. Always be relaxed, laid back, and confident and women will flock to you.

Overall Summary / Review

- Always be confident, but not cocky.
- Be relaxed and keep your cool when talking with members of the opposite sex.
- Personality and confidence outweigh appearence.
- Always use compliments when talking with a member of the opposite sex.
- Never let a conversation run dry.


Is there a best way to dress? A best way to act? A best "line" to meet them?

Yes. Never dress in dirty or old clothes. Now im not saying to drop your entire wardrobe and go invest in some armani or louy vuitton, but make sure that your clothes are clean and somewhat new. Heres some of the most helpful comments I can offer come in. From what I have interpreted from women in personal expeirence talking with them is that most women hate when guys try and show off by wear tight cloths to show off there body. Several things can go wrong when a guy decides to do this. One of them is that women are turned off by you appearing to be self-centered, which in most cases is completely untrue, but remember they don't know you personally so they will make assumptions. So remember wear clothes that fit! I can not stress this enough. Make sure they are not to tight or loose / baggy. The best way to act can simply be described as being cool, calm relaxed, and confident. Never try to show off just stay confident and give the member of the opposite sex many compliments, and you'll be well on your way to dating success. In my experience and in the experience of many others I know those cheesy pick-up lines everyone talks about never work, and are viewed by many women to be immautre. A simple hello, hi, or whats up, will do fine when approaching a member of the opposite sex.

Overall Summery / Review

-Dress in new clean clothes.
-Always wear clothes that fit. Not to loose not to tight.
-Be cool, calm, relaxed, and confident.
-Dont use cheesy pick-up lines. A simple hello, hi, or whats up will do.

Another major part of being attractive to the opposite sex is physical appearence.

Having a great body is a great tool for attracting the opposite sex. Although one should always remember that a great body will only take you so far. Personality and confidence will win over a women 9 times out of 10 so remember a great body isn't everything, but it is very useful. On the flipside though most women do not want to date a man that is severly overweight. So men should at least go to the gym several times a week and have a solid diet/cardio plan intact if they want to be attractive to females. We must remember that we are all unique and therefore we all have some characteristics we can not alter or change so we must live with our beauties and defects/unattractive parts. There are some things that men can change to make themselves look more attractive to females. I will list them below as well as how to make them look more attractive to members of the opposite sex.

Face

Always make sure that your face is clean and acne free. Acne can be prevented through good diet and frequent cleansing to some degree, but sometimes that is not enough. There are many acne prevention/treatment products on the market. Experiment with them until you find the one that works best for you. Having a low bodyfat will bring out your jaw line and give your face an overal better look, which many women find attractive. So strive to keep your bodyfat low if you want to be attractive to the opposite sex. If you choose to have facial hair make sure that it is kept clean. If you chose not to have facial hair then make sure you have a clean shave on always. The 5 o'clock shadow look is becoming over-used and is losing its attraction to women.

Hairstyle

There are many treandy new hairstyles out there today. A hairstyle should be comlpletely up to you as it expresses your personality. Just remember that it should be cut often for you to look your best. Make sure you take care of your hair buy using a good shampoo/conditioner combination.


Oral Hygiene

Always make sure that you brush your teeth with a good toothpaste, such as colgate total plus whitening(a personal favorite of mine), at least twice per day. You should also be using floss and mouth wash daily to keep you mouth and teeth looking as healthy as possible. Remember to show off those white teeth, members of the oposite sex love that.

Body Hygiene

Make sure that you shower a minimum of once per day. Use a good soap and body mosturizer. Make sure that you keep your feet / hands mosturized, these can become major turn offs to member of the opposite sex if they are not kept clean and healthy. Clip your finger/toenails often. Make sure that you smell good. Invest in a good deodorant/anti-perspirent. Also buy a good smelling cologne, this is very important in attracting the opposite sex.

Sense of humour / Personality

This all goes back to remembering to keep your confidence and expressing yourself when talking with members of the opposite sex. Always have a good sense of humour many women find that attractive. Always have a happy personality. If your always down on yourself then most women will be turned off.

How can you make it so that the girls come and talk to you instead of having to go and talk to them?

Having a great body is the easiest way to have members of the opposite sex approach/meet you. They will be naturally attracted to a great physique. Other ways that you could have members of the opposite sex aprroach you would be to go to a friendly atmosphere filled with many members of the opposite sex. These places would include: Movie Theaters, Clubs, Bars, etc.
Always be sure to dress nice and express yourself and girls will flock to you.

Do nice guys finish last?

In my opinion this is not always true, but unfortunately it does happen often. Usually the shy/quiet/nice guy will finish last only because he is simply to shy to approach members of the opposite sex and interact with them. I used to be a shy/nice/quiet guy not to long ago. I did not speak with to many members of the opposite sex unless i knew them well. I learned from that mistake that i should be more outgoing and was successful at doing so. So to all the nice guys out there: Be more outgoing and express yourself and your life will be full of members of the opposite sex.

Is it really all about money and looks?

No it's not. Personality and confidence outweigh money and looks most of the time. Sure money and looks help, but they are not needed to be successful with the opposite sex.

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[Ironman88]

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What types of things cause girls to avoid guys?

There are many things that can turn a woman off from a guy. A major one is BAD BREATH this has to be one of the biggest turn offs so make sure to keep your teeth and mouth healthy with frequent brushing/flossing/mouthwash. Cockyness can also be a major turn off. Knowing the difference between confidence and cockyness can go a long way with members of the opposite sex. Always show interest in members of the opposite sex otherwise they will lose interest in you. Bad overall hygiene can also be a turn off to members of the opposite sex. So make sure to shower/bathe frequently.

What are the biggest things that guys do that make it so they have no hope of getting a girlfriend?

These were basically outlined above. Cockyness and poor hygiene are huge turnoffs to most woman. Above all else is reputation. If a woman finds out you have a bad reputation for cheating/lying your chances with her are almost completely done. So never develop a bad reputation. Stay good-hearted and honest.

What would you say to a guy who says that it is hopeless for him, no matter what he does?

I would tell him that there is always hope for everyone. I would explain to him that he needs to express himself to women in a different way. That he needs to go out and meet new members of the opposite sex. That he needs to talk with them and that eventually he will find the right woman.

BONUS QUESTION: What is the best place to take a first date? What can you do on the first date to make the best impression?

In my opinion a force that has tremendous power and influence on women is music. Soft calming music can allow a woman to become much more open and understanding of you. So for a first date i would recomend a place filled with moving music such as a fancy restaurant or a good movie. If she doesn't seem like the type that would go for that then a date to a sporting game or casual movie or restaurant would be more apropriate. There are many things one can do on the first date to make a good impression. One is to give many compliments on how your date looks. Memembers of the opposite sex always enjoy compliments. Another is to suprise your date with flowers. Women always enjoy flowers. Never be late. Always be on time if you want to impress your date. And lastly to impress your date you should be open and understanding of her opinions throughout the evening, this is most important.

Hopefully by reading my article you have come to the answer to the question: "What is the best way to meet/attract the opposite sex?". I throughly enjoyed writing my opinons and sharing my experiences with you. Hope this helps anyone who needs it.

[bigcalves]

haha Ironman is a biter. He repeated alot of MY original content.

But you also had some original points, good job homie :D:D:D

Anyways let the best man win :p

[Not So Big]

does the winner really get 25$ to spend on bb.com?

[Kill_yourself]

hey Dudes wait till you see my post. Completely uninfluenced by any of the other posts!

Lesson is starting so guys, TAKE OUT THOSE NOTEBOOKS!!!! You will need it!

[ravadongon]

does the winner really get 25$ to spend on bb.com?

Winner gets $75, mate :D 2nd place gets $20 :)

[customranger]

all u gotta know is how to treat a girl right. be nice to her, have good maners around her, talk to her alot, and dont start out hittingvon her, go with the flow. u will know when the time is right to ask them on a date. u dont necessarly have to be good looking or big and bulky to get a girl. ive seen some ugly ass dudes with liek some of the hottest girls ive eber seen! girls are the total opposite of us, all they want is to be loved an respected and to knwo that they have someone that cares for them. but hey it never hurts to have looks, but girls loook more at the personality. and individual features. and yah some girls are pickyand care how u look or dress but thats how it is.

[TRICK D]

hey trick d,u forgot to mention how much you squat,remember that girls like guys with impressive arms and large upper body muscles but when they see you in shorts they got so dessapointed cause proportion is the key,girls like guys with strong legs and not to mention that a flat butt may be a trurn off for some of them,if you're one of those guys that think they have an upper body and forget the larger muscles of your body do more squats and legs excercices,im 140 lbs and i squat 280 lbs,my doble size ,and when i go to the beach all the girls become crazy about my monster legs!!


Dumb ass, I almost bench more than you can squat... don't go bragging about weight when you don't know ****.

[Ironman88]

haha Ironman is a biter. He repeated alot of MY original content.

But you also had some original points, good job homie :D:D:D

Anyways let the best man win :p

The original content that I repeated was repeated because it is in my opinion part of the answer, and it would have been posted regaurdless of whether or not you posted it before me....sorry if I came off as a "biter" but i honestly did not copy your content.
Anyways let the best man win :D

[bigcalves]

The original content that I repeated was repeated because it is in my opinion part of the answer, and it would have been posted regaurdless of whether or not you posted it before me....sorry if I came off as a "biter" but i honestly did not copy your content.
Anyways let the best man win :D
suck up.


lol:D

[LilManSyndrom]

Alcohol.

lol. seriously, its all about confidence. Body language says a lot, so stand up straight, stick your chest out, hold your head up, and smile. People are like mirrors, if you smile at them, they will smile back. If you give them and attitude, they will give you one back. So always smile, and hold a positive posture.

Introduce yourself to the opposite sex, like you would anyone else. They are just people.

pay them a compliment. It feeds there ego, everyone wants attention, or recognition.

And most importantly, listen to them.

I once complimented a ladies hat, she tolled me she got it from brazil.

she was more than willing to talk about it, and we talked for about an hour, I said maybe a handful of words. I just let her talk and all I did is listen.
we exchanged numbers and I ended up dating her for a year and a half.

and like my cousin says, "women are like telemarketing, you get 1 out of 100, so hit on them all." lol. The truth behind this is not everyone is for everyone, so don't be depressed about rejection, just move on.

Don't open with a joke unless you know for sure it is something they to can relate too.

And lose the cheap pickup lines, they don't work (I've tried, lol).

Try these few simple things and you can see how things change for you.

Bonus question:
A nice dinner in a classy atmosphere, with good soft relaxing music. It's best for both of you if you can be relaxed.

P.S.

I did not read all the post so if I repeated anything, sorry, didn't mean to bite off anyone elses opinions, these are just my suggestions.

[drugzkill]

Topic of the Week

Scoring with the Ladies by drugzk1ll

When I first I saw this question of the week, I knew that many men would mention that getting women is all about the tanning, the cloths, and the hair. Well the fact of the matter is that this isn't what makes a woman attracted to a man. If women wanted someone that could dress, do their hair well and spray tan, they would just date each other. The fact of the matter is that women, unlike, men are not shallow. Women focus on something other than looks and appearance.

What is this "something" that women focus on?

Well the "something" that women want, is actually many "somethings". The most important of all these "somethings" is something that almost no men do: Listen!

Listening and Conversation
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The ability to listen (or feign listening) is probably the best gift that any guy can be given. This is because women love to be heard. When I first approach/meet a women I usually ask her a simple question about an observation I have. This could be a simple question about whether she goes to the university on her shirt, a "where you from?" due to her accent, a "why are you standing alone", a "are you tired?" followed by a "have a rough day?" due to a yawn. Once you have asked your initial question, you should next let them talk while you continue to ask them more questions. These question should be ones which allow them to talk about whatever they want. These questions include question about their work, passions, what they do, what they want to do, dreams (but don't get too corny),a simple "what are doing here tonight?" (Not Apply at the gym).

During this portion of conversation, it is important to tell very little about yourself if at all. Women love their men to stay mysterious. If you say nothing about yourself, women will assume that you are mysterious and continue to drive themselves to know more. There is several ways of staying mysterious. The easiest way to stay mysterious is to reverse any conversation of you to them in a seamless manner. If they ask how your day was, answer "okay, how was yours?" or just a regular "okay" followed by a comment or question that can get them to talk about themselves again. Remember, the trick is to keep them chatting away.

If you are to talking at all other than question or repeating what they said, you should remain a few type of comments and topics. First, you should remember to make a few funny comments about what they say (this does not mean degrade or tease, make sure you make comments that you both can laugh at). Humor is a great way to show a woman she can have fun with you. Second, you should mention something about your feelings towards your family (which should always be good and express in few words as possible). Strong family ties speak very highly of you in a woman's opinion, but too much said can deplete your listening still and also reveal or seem to reveal that you want a family of your own or are a momma's boy.

Also during this conversation make sure to express some sexual interest, but keep it mysterious. You can do this through a compliment or two about their appearance, but while maintaining complete cool and not seeming as though compliment is out of place from the conversation. If you leave your sexual interest in her a question mark then the woman will be driven to prove herself to you and she will begin to chase you. (Warning: this can lead to them grabbing you and dragging you to the bedroom. I'm proof of this.)

Though this gold conversation method is great, there are a few problems. The problems include that it requires patience, some time, some reverse instinct, and a possible psycho following of obessed women.

In order to work your magic with conversation you must be patient and allot time. This is because when women love to talk, and they will continue to do so to almost no end. You must seem during this never ending conversation to be interested and attentive at all times. Woman can quickly pick up on insincerity esp. since almost all men are insincere.

In order for this to work, you must also reverse your instincts. When I initially did this method, I had to reverse the instinct to obessively talk about sex, to be an *******, and to worry about conversation making me friends with a woman. This can be very hard, however, the fact of the matter is that good communication will make woman more attracted to you than talk of a dirty smack on the ass.

The other major problem with this method, is the possible psycho following of women (at least the ones you stay in touch with and continuely use good communication). Believe it or not, when you can communicate well women not only want to sleep with you, but they fall in love. When you have several girls falling in love, it becomes almost unmanagable and can be very stressing.

I would also like to note that this method will also usually you don't have to worry about a making a first move with this method. With this method almost always a woman will make the move first or at least sign for you to do so is do many ways.

I would also like to make a few additional notes:

Body Language: During conversation you should always watch for body language and try to reciporicate somewhat. Women show interest through fiddling with their hair, leaning in to you, etc. What for these sign and reciporicate some of your own body language through many leaning in to her or just being generally playful

Don't worry about Names: In honesty, names say nothing about a person. You should worry about asking for a woman's name until later in the conversation if at all.

Cut off the conversation sometimes to do something better: Sometimes you must cut off the conversation once interest is expressed fully. Once you are sure of their interest, sometimes it is neccessary to cut off the conversation with an alternative acitivity that could done together such as getting a drink, dancing, shotting some pool, going to your car for a shirt, etc. If she is geninuely interested in you whether or not she likes pool, she will play or at least offer an alternative for you two to do together.

Confidence: Confidence is key to keeping, meeting, maintianing any woman. If you don't have it than fake it until you can gain some. Also remember confidence's ugly sister is cockyness and cockyness must be avoided at all costs.

As far as some people discrediting the importance of listening, those people have no idea of their potential. Unlike, being an *******, communication when done properly works for almost any woman as versus every 1 out of 10-20 woman.

Final Note:

Remember, any man can get any woman. Just remember to be somewhat particular and remember that in the long run personality is everything, but in the short run you should just go out and have fun and experience as much as you can.

Bonus Question: Best First Date?

Doesn't matter where as long as the communication is great and the sex is incredible.

[KentPower]

16" arms, minimum.

Just kidding guys. I think the most important thing is patience. The right one(s) will show up, just wait. As many of you have pointed out it's important to listen, but believe me it's no good feigning interest - if she bores you now she'll bore the sh*t out of you in a fortnight.

Also important is to be yourself. You can only keep up a facade for so long and unless you're very good, she'll be able to tell your faking it pretty much instantly. It's no good her liking who you're pretending to be - she has to like you.

Necessarily repeating what's been posted before - don't be minging. For God's sake wash, shave, brush your hair, clean your teeth, blah, blah, blah, you know the score. And by the way, ALWAYS wash under your foreskin. Always. Some of the stories I've heard from female friends do not bear repeating but believe me failure in this area of hygiene is an instant relationship ender. And you never know when someone might want to stick their head down there.

To summarise the best way is to go about your life being patient and keeping your eyes open - always be ready, you never know when or where she will appear. And don't forget about the 16" arms.

Bonus question: First date location?

Why are you asking me? I'd like to go on a round of golf, but if you talk to her you might find out what SHE likes. If you can't tell maybe you shouldn't be going with her. Try to find out if she has any pretty friends, or perhaps a younger sister. Good luck fellas.

[customranger]

Dumb ass, I almost bench more than you can squat... don't go bragging about weight when you don't know ****.

lol i agree that isnt all that much fo ra leg press i way 160 and i max out at 555

[TRICK D]

How to get women by Trick D

When I was in Junior High is when my hormones started kicking in, I was getting all the ladies numbers, flirting with all the ladies, and doing everything I can to get with the ladies. Then I realized something. They just weren’t in to me. I spent all of my junior high days being very popular, but with no women. When I was in ninth grade I found out that women didn’t like guys that were smaller than them. So I started lifting. Bulked 20 pounds that year, had a nice 6pac, and this is what I have learned since then.

How did I learn to get women

When I started High School, I was 15 years old. The summer before high school, I went to a carnival located in a city just outside of mine with the late, Jeremy (age 19), my role model and now deceased best friend. He had all the looks, he was 6’6 220, and had the perfect smile (at least the women said that), well he told me that we were going to go pick up some girls, well I had no experience and no luck, but he assured me that he would pull us through. All the sudden I see him go up to 6 girls he didn’t know. It was just him and I and I thought it was suicide, and before I knew it, he had all 6 of them giggling and giving him their numbers. I couldn’t believe it.

After studying what he did, I decided to put it to the test. The week before high school started I went to a festival located in Charleston, West Virginia. This is about 20 miles from my house. I went there with some friends, and we decided to go “mack” on girls and act like Jeremy did to see if we could get some numbers. So by the end of the night I ended up getting 9 girls numbers. This was the first time I had ever gotten a number from a girl that I didn’t already know from school or something. I started to get some self-esteem.
This is the formula that I learned from the late great Jeremy (RIP) after observing his actions.

The 4 C’s:

1. Be a little Cocky : When I say this, please don’t take it to the extreme. You must give yourself an image that shows the opposite sex that you are better than the others they could get with, but don’t just tell them that you are better. Act a little more cockier than you are normally are.

2. Be very Confident : There is a difference between cockiness and confidence. It is great to be confident around the opposite sex so that they know they have a person that is sure of himself.

3. Be Charming : It is always great to be charming. If you ask a girl, they are always looking for prince charming to sweep them off their feet. I believe you should be charming as soon as you meet the person you want to get with. I normally put cocky and charming together when giving them a compliment to really mess with them. I like using: “Do you know why I look so good right now?” (She should have resentment on her face) “Because I am beside you.” You will be shocked how well that works; they will say it is the sweetest thing they have ever heard.

4. And a Comedian! Now don’t take this to the extreme . Women love to laugh. But don’t be overly funny, and don’t be rude. Watch out for religious, racial, and other sensitive jokes. You don’t know much about her yet, and if you want to find out a lot more

When you put the 3 C’s together, you will make women feel comfortable with you and also it give them a reason to stop looking at other guys. Because women love confident guys that have a little swagger and are very charming.

Side notes:

a. Always smile, and be happy, even if you are not happy, pretend to be. Women want a man that is happy around them, so please act like your happy, and smile often.

b. Be a gentleman. Never be anything but one.

c. Don't be bashful, as for her number, and initiate conversation.

Dress for success:

Depending on the type of person you want to attract, the key is the way you dress. I do stress that if you are looking for a punk rocker, or a businesswoman, you need to dress accordingly.

Rule #1. Dress for success. Wear dress casual in places that will attract the type of people you are looking for. If you are going to school, wear a nice pair of American eagle jeans and a button up shirt. This is casual but also has a bit of dress to it since it is a button up shirt. Clothing like this gives confidence to your body.

Rule #2. Make sure they match! Obey the rules; don’t mix clothes that don’t match, if you have a question, ask your friend, roommate, or mom. You will be surprised how much help you can get from your very own mother. They give excellent advice. (Unless they are stuck in the 70’s.)

Rule #3. Wear clothes that fit. This also means to wear clothes that show up things that are nice about you. If you have big arms, wear a shirt that clings to them, but not one that rips around it. Wear clothes that go just past your waist and jeans that fit snuggly on your waist, a belt is always liked in today’s fashion.

Rule #4. The old sneakers have to go, although they may be comfortable, save them for a basketball game. Get yourself a nice pair of casual shoes or dress boots. I personally like low tops and boots/dress shoes made by Lugz and American eagle.

Rule #5. Accessories are important. Go out and get a nice watch. I would suggest something fashionable like a Fossil or Citizen. Also belts are very popular. I am a big fan of belt buckles. A nice belt buckle will draw you a lot of attention. I get ladies all the time commenting me on some of my belt buckles. It is an easy way of getting attention!

Pick up lines do not work!

One mistake many make is relying on pickup lines. I remember back in junior high we would use them and get smacked silly by the girls. It isn’t even worth trying a pickup line. Even if you are joking around with them, it could easily offend them.

The best pick up line you could ever use is introducing yourself. Ask them how they are and simply tell them your name. Start with small talk and if they seem they are interested keep up the conversation. That is the only pickup line that works.

Things that don’t attract women:

Girls avoid guys that instantly give them the sense of difference. Magnets attract instantly. I mean differences can workout over the long haul, but if you are trying to meet a girl now, go for a girl that have similar interests with you. Women hate guys with bad hygiene (take a shower and brush your teeth!), unruly hair (get a hair cut!), and insensitive guys. If you take the above measures, you shouldn’t have any trouble getting to at least talk to women.

Guys with no hope don’t fear!

Colonel Sanders went to over 1000 companies in order to get a company to invest in his chicken recipe. On number 1060 or so, he finally got a taker. Now KFC is one of the most famous restaurants in the entire world. The key is not to give up. Constantly try to meet people with similar interests and try to better yourself. You can do this by improving your knowledge or improving your body. Reading and weight lifting are two things I do to improve my image. The more I know, the more I can talk to someone about. The better I look, the more of a chance someone would approach me.

Lower your standards:

I have always had high standards, but many people expect Aphrodite to come walking by screaming their name. This isn’t going to happen. When you have little to no luck getting girls, go for girls with similar interests. I promise you that looks are not the only thing that matters. Get a girl that you can have fun with. Once you get some dates, your confidence will increase and you will start getting better and better girls!

So I got a girl, where to take her?

Well first, you need to mentally prepare for a date. You need to settle your nerves and be confident that you will have a good time. Most people say that the movies is the best place to take a woman for the first date, I argue that if you don’t know a person that well, a girl may feel uncomfortable on the first date alone in the dark. I suggest going putt-putting, bowling, or to a club/bar. This way you can ask her if she wants to bring her friends (hopefully she will say no), and she can feel more comfortable. Also I feel that you need to have fun on the first date. Make her laugh, so that she will want to go on another one. Bring a rose. Going to the movies doesn’t give the two of you enough time to get to know each other.

Is it all about money and looks?

No, you will be surprised how much common interests can take you. Some girls/guys have a good head on their shoulder, and they are looking for someone that will show them a good time. If you are that person, I promise that it won’t matter how much money you have or how good looking you are. If a woman is obsessed with money/looks then she isn’t the one for you, because as soon as someone with more money comes, they will be gone.

A quick story:

I went to a party; not looking for love at all, to be honest I was quite intoxicated, but still had a good head on my shoulders. I started off the night, with a bet with my good friend on seeing who could get the most phone numbers. While I was getting all these numbers (I ended up losing the bet) I met this beautiful girl named Amanda. I had a long conversation with her. I applied my creed with the 4 C’s and made her laugh. I also found that we had similar opinions and morals. By the end of the night, she looked at me and said, “You know what Dustin, You are different.” From the night, we have been together ever since. She is a beautiful beacon but the best thing about her is her personality and our shared interests. If I can find love when I wasn’t even trying to find it, I am sure that everyone will find someone to be happy with the rest of their lives.


Good luck guys.

[MantisShrimp]

Here's a few alternatives:

-Work as a clerk at a tanning salon, or a bath and body shop, or maybe become a fashion designer or hairdresser. Think up the gayest, fashion oriented career you can, and pursue it. Take a job at any of the places women go to gussy themselves up for the the imaginary dudes they never actually meet. They love serendipity. :D

-Become an ocean lifeguard, or a beach cop in a popular resort town. SERIOUSLY. Ass-o-rama. Chicks will come up and ask you for directions to the closest cock station, and it will be you.

-Pretend to be gay.

-Get a camera, and convince people you're a photographer. Narcissism is an aphrodisiac, and it requires no actual talent. The more expensive the camera and filters, the more they will think you are a real photographer. Use black and white only, it's classic and artsy.

-Register and design www.ihatesports.com and rake in the MILFs by the thousands.

-Study black magick, and put all sorts of "love spells" on random chicks, indiscriminately. Don't come cryin to me when you can't get rid of em, mage.

-Buy a bar, and name it "Ladies Night."

-Start an all Depeche Mode cover band.

-Start an all Smiths/Cure cover band.

-Lose at least three girlfriends from the above two options to suicide, and another three to creeping obesity.

-Start a band, and place an ad for "singers." Then proceed to make each candidate feel like a "star" by accidentally banging every single one of them, like most of the guys who place these types of ads.

-Become a personal trainer who specializes in nothing but the thigh machine. Convince the women you train that music is a necessary motivator, and insist that your playing Barry White as they work is an absolutely professional requirement. Feed them drinks called "Jungle Protein" containing grain alcohol, and insist on vigorously demonstrating thigh range of motion for each client.

-Befriend either Corey Haim or Corey Feldman, either one. Hang out with him often. When you meet a group of chicks, say "Hey...remember this heartthrob from your youth?" Just as they begin to swoon, slap him in the face as hard as you can, and say "Yeah, you're all grown up now. I hated him too."

-Murder John Basedow in cold blood.

[Vinny_Au]

Trick d is spot on, i was going to write something really similar to you man but no point good job

[TRICK D]

Trick d is spot on, i was going to write something really similar to you man but no point good job


Thanks man, I appreciate it...

[bigcalves]

bigcalves, trick D and ironman88 all have good articles.

I think it should be that way prizewise, 1 2 3. :D:D:D

[TRICK D]

I don't know about that bigcalves, guess we will have to wait a day or two.

[bigcalves]

I don't know about that bigcalves, guess we will have to wait a day or two.
i guess . :D anyways let the best man win :)

[MsJewels]

What a cool thread - I've never noticed the topics of the week section before. Gotta stick my head outside of the women's only forum more often.

Attraction is a tricky thing...

For me to first be interested in a man, he's got to have looks that I find attractive. This varys for every woman, so it's impossible to say that you must be a) tall, b) have dark hair, c) blue eyes, and so on. Be YOURSELF; find your own style, and you'll attract 'your kind' of girls. Sporty girls like sporty guys; punk rockers with mohawks don't date computer geeks (for the most part!). But HAVE A STYLE - try to look nice and presentable. Comb that hair, or spike up that mohawk! ;) , shave, put on cologne, clean clothes, this all sounds so obvious, but there's nothing worse than working out next to a guy that reeks. *shudder*

Don't be too aggressive or full of yourself. Confidence is definitely very sexy, but overdoing it is a turn-off.

Be good at what you do best. Success is a very attractive feature. Not necessarily money-related!!! Put your all into lifting hard for that bodybuilding competition and place the best you can.

Have your own interests and passions. Don't sign up for a class to meet someone, sign up because you are interested in it yourself, and by doing your own thing and following your own interests you'll meet others who have similar interests to you. And a spark may fly!

Now DATING: Be romantic! Bring flowers and make her feel like it's not one of the many dates you've been on, but that this is a special date. Be a gentleman! PAY FOR DINNER! Suck it up and pay. She may surprise you and offer to split it. REFUSE, unless she absolutely insists. This is old fashioned? NO IT'S NOT!! It's treating her like a lady. If you can't afford much, then tailor the date to what you CAN afford. Open doors, too. This is such a sweet gesture - I love it!

[wade1226]

The best way to be attractive to the opposite sex is to have (and display) confidence. If you are sure about yourself, then the right one will come along soon enough, and you'll have fun in the meantime.

[Ironman88]

bigcalves, trick D and ironman88 all have good articles.

I think it should be that way prizewise, 1 2 3. :D:D:D
You should take your own advice: Don't be to cocky. ;)
j/k :D

[bigcalves]

You should take your own advice: Don't be to cocky. ;)
j/k :D
hehe.

it will be all over when the fat lady sings, ironman88! :D

[Ironman88]

Trick d is spot on, i was going to write something really similar to you man but no point good job
lol did you really make a second name just to say how good your article was.

[bigcalves]

lol did you really make a second name just to say how good your article was.
haha i bet he did. The mods can see his IP so he's not that smart anyways lol.
:D

[TRICK D]

No I have no reason to make a second name to put myself up. I already know I'm the best... also have them run IP, it isn't me.

[TurbulentFluid]

I'm gonna try not to cmment the upper posts... But some men should get dissilusioned about women being so divine, un-shallow, etc etc... There's downright b**ches out there, too... :)

I'd say it all depends of the point of view... Or, more accurately, on how you answer the following question:

What is sucess with the opposite sex: 2 ten year relationships with 2 partners, or 10 two-minute relationships with 10 partners?

What I can tell men, from my own experience as a woman, is that, and reffering to two possible answers:

1. If I'm looking for a 1-nighter; you can have a ph.d. in just about everything but I don't care; I'm looking for a Goooooood body and a capacity NOT to call up in the morning. If you'll bragg to your friends tomorrow who cares - I don't know them, and you don't know the girls I'll bragg to (and be sure I WILL).
OK, OK, I'll admitt, I don't do this kind of stuff nymore... Figure myself too mature. That's teen stuff, at least in my book... :)

2. If I'm looking for a relationship, then it's just about most important that I can spend hours talking to this guy and wonder "geez... where did the time GO!?" It's important that we share views on certain things, educations important, just about everything's important, and looks ARE secondary (OK, BMI has GOT to be below critical, lol!). I dislike the "strong and silent tipe", they usualy evolve into "silent and boring"... I also like when our lines of work interject (for instance, my main interest is physics, so I probably won't end up dating a piano player). Plus, like most women, I don't like jelaous dorks, cocky dorks, any kind of dorks... they're OK for category 1., but I don't wanna be seen with something like THAT.

Also...

3. If I'm NOT looking for anything, you can just about pull every trick from the book - I'm a nice, polite thing, so I'll tell you to mind your own business. Some girls I know would rip you off for to _pay_ for their good time, and THEN tell you to mind your own business.

4. If you're a grown man try not to listen to the advice here given by acne ridden teens, they're probably not after what you're after.

5. Try not to lie, fake, feign, pretend... what for? You'll just end up tangling yourself in it, and it'll be MUCH less fun if you have to NOT be yourself every time you're with her. Plus, it's absolutely unfair.

Now that I'm through telling you all the stuff you'll want to reduce my rep for ( :) ), I'll just add that maybe you'd do better not to adress the entity of "women" and the entity of "men", you know... I have my opinions but I know LOADS of girls who don't share ANY of them. Maybe if you tried viewing people as people, you'd have more luck? It's so much better when you see someone is honest, than when you see he's shamelessly throwing a line (and it shows). Respect is SUCH a turn - on...

..and I'd like to ask a question. Since I did a few things about my body, I do have more "luck" with men, however... I can't help but wonder if it's because I look better and they like me more, or simply because I'm all buff in self-confidence? Self - confidence sells EVERYWHERE... So, what do you think? (They're not the same men, btw, I'd rather have my ear bitten off than be now with someone who didn't want me then).

Turbo

PS.
Oh yeah, I forgot chemistry... :) Sometimes I like a guy and there's no logical explanation why. It just happens. Boom. I figure it's pheromones...

[bigcalves]

I'm gonna try not to cmment the upper posts... But some men should get dissilusioned about women being so divine, un-shallow, etc etc... There's downright b**ches out there, too... :)

I'd say it all depends of the point of view... Or, more accurately, on how you answer the following question:

What is sucess with the opposite sex: 2 ten year relationships with 2 partners, or 10 two-minute relationships with 10 partners?

What I can tell men, from my own experience as a woman, is that, and reffering to two possible answers:

1. If I'm looking for a 1-nighter; you can have a ph.d. in just about everything but I don't care; I'm looking for a Goooooood body and a capacity NOT to call up in the morning. If you'll bragg to your friends tomorrow who cares - I don't know them, and you don't know the girls I'll bragg to (and be sure I WILL).
OK, OK, I'll admitt, I don't do this kind of stuff nymore... Figure myself too mature. That's teen stuff, at least in my book... :)

2. If I'm looking for a relationship, then it's just about most important that I can spend hours talking to this guy and wonder "geez... where did the time GO!?" It's important that we share views on certain things, educations important, just about everything's important, and looks ARE secondary (OK, BMI has GOT to be below critical, lol!). I dislike the "strong and silent tipe", they usualy evolve into "silent and boring"... I also like when our lines of work interject (for instance, my main interest is physics, so I probably won't end up dating a piano player). Plus, like most women, I don't like jelaous dorks, cocky dorks, any kind of dorks... they're OK for category 1., but I don't wanna be seen with something like THAT.

Also...

3. If I'm NOT looking for anything, you can just about pull every trick from the book - I'm a nice, polite thing, so I'll tell you to mind your own business. Some girls I know would rip you off for to _pay_ for their good time, and THEN tell you to mind your own business.

4. If you're a grown man try not to listen to the advice here given by acne ridden teens, they're probably not after what you're after.

5. Try not to lie, fake, feign, pretend... what for? You'll just end up tangling yourself in it, and it'll be MUCH less fun if you have to NOT be yourself every time you're with her. Plus, it's absolutely unfair.

Now that I'm through telling you all the stuff you'll want to reduce my rep for ( :) ), I'll just add that maybe you'd do better not to adress the entity of "women" and the entity of "men", you know... I have my opinions but I know LOADS of girls who don't share ANY of them. Maybe if you tried viewing people as people, you'd have more luck? It's so much better when you see someone is honest, than when you see he's shamelessly throwing a line (and it shows). Respect is SUCH a turn - on...

..and I'd like to ask a question. Since I did a few things about my body, I do have more "luck" with men, however... I can't help but wonder if it's because I look better and they like me more, or simply because I'm all buff in self-confidence? Self - confidence sells EVERYWHERE... So, what do you think? (They're not the same men, btw, I'd rather have my ear bitten off than be now with someone who didn't want me then).

Turbo

PS.
Oh yeah, I forgot chemistry... :) Sometimes I like a guy and there's no logical explanation why. It just happens. Boom. I figure it's pheromones...
.......

[EatShitAndDie]

Here's an idea:

Quit prancing around like some f.aggot ass dandy in your tight shirts and level 7 super hold L.A. Looks and grow a brain.

Personality > Muscles

You homoerotic cockdemons still haven't learned that though.

[TRICK D]

No one ever said you had to have muscles to get women... what a loser.

[EatShitAndDie]

No one ever said you had to have muscles to get women... what a loser.

Obviously at 161 lbs you don't have any.

If you ***s weren't so consumed w/your appearances then you wouldn't have to check threads like these for advice on meeting women.

[Ironman88]

The results are in:
1st-Ironman88
2nd-mivi320
3rd- Bigcalves

[mondesi02]

What Is The Best Way To Meet The Opposite Sex?

- 90% of meeting a girl is just making a conversation..make them laugh, feel comfortable & know how to close (get a number/e-mail)
- Its a numbers game. More girls you approach the easier you get and better odds of meeting a girl you can stand to date longer then a few weeks. The easy part is meeting/finding girls - the hard part is finding one that you call back.

What is the best place to take a first date?

- I never do the typical. Chances are the date will be more unforgettable if you do something unexpected. Never a dinner & movie, unless its hiking a mountain - then back to your place while you grill up some ahi tuna and turn on some "skinamax"....

I personally live by the LD Rules !

...

[TRICK D]

The results are in:
1st-Ironman88
2nd-mivi320
3rd- Bigcalves



You can't be serious.. the top two are me and bigcalves... yours was decent, but you didn't answer the questions as i feel they should have been answered. Good luck next week.

[Ironman88]

You can't be serious.. the top two are me and bigcalves... your statement at the end knocked you out of top 2.
Serious as a heart-attack ;).....What statement are you refering to?

[TRICK D]

I edited mine, i got yours confused with someone elses.

[Ironman88]

No bro, i'm dead serious its on the website.

[mivi320]

The results are in:
1st-Ironman88
2nd-mivi320
3rd- Bigcalves

Are you serious? :eek:

Do you have a link to confirm this?

[TRICK D]

Obviously at 161 lbs you don't have any.

If you ***s weren't so consumed w/your appearances then you wouldn't have to check threads like these for advice on meeting women.



Dumbass, i wrote the article, i don't need help... your the one checking them out and not writing an article... and please son... why don't you grow the f*** up.

[Ironman88]

You can't be serious.. the top two are me and bigcalves... yours was decent, but you didn't answer the questions as i feel they should have been answered. Good luck next week.
lol im not joking its on the website. Me and Bigcalves have talked on aim for several months, and he sent me the link and showed me i won, but i lost it i can't find it right now....when he signs on i'll tell him to send me it again...It doesn't matter what you think, your not judging it...I answered every question that was asked, you didn't, you skipped over many, and you also made several immature comments using vulgarity....Better luck next week.

[TRICK D]

lol im not joking its on the website. Me and Bigcalves have talked on aim for several months, and he sent me the link and showed me i won, but i lost it i can't find it right now....when he signs on i'll tell him to send me it again...It doesn't matter what you think, your not judging it...I answered every question that was asked, you didn't, you skipped over many, and you also made several immature comments using vulgarity....Better luck next week.



Excuse me, i wrote nothing vulgar in my report... and also where are your personal stories, or are you not the mack daddy you claim to be?


yes, i know i am not the one judging. And I have been robbed in my eyes many times.


And if that is the case, then congrats.

[Ironman88]

Excuse me, i wrote nothing vulgar in my report... and also where are your personal stories, or are you not the mack daddy you claim to be?

Not in the report, in the thread you did. I put several personal expeirences dealing with several aspects of meeting/attracting the opposite sex, but a detailed story, no.

yes, i know i am not the one judging. And I have been robbed in my eyes many times.

Ok.

And if that is the case, then congrats.

Thank you.

[Ironman88]

Heres the link to the winners: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek21.htm

[TRICK D]

Congrats to the winners, but I officially retire from writing articles.


There is no reason for me to write 5 pages worth of information on word with 12 font times new roman, and include personal stories unlike most of you, and lose to someone who didn't write even 1 page. I have had my rounds with webmaster for judging the entries too early, i have complained about how one week the question was who is going to win the arnold classic, and I was the only one that knew dexter jackson was going to win, and also knew the top 7 winners. I am tired of questions that involve certain aspects, like for instance personal stories, and I get shafted. I assume that webmaster knows who buys from the site and who doesn't, and I assume that because I don't buy supplements from this site, I get taken advantage of.


I am a junior Marketing major, that is getting ready to enter an accelerated masters program where there are just 6 other people. I have lost to people who write 10 run on sentences when I write 5 pages.

I really did this just to help the people who need help picking up women, or need advice with bodybuilding, but I guess there is no reason, when my fellow collegues disrespect me time after time.

Congrats to the winners. I guess you all are better than me.

Dustin

[Kill_yourself]

What is the best way to meet the opposite sex?

Now why is it that some guys can get girls in a snap of a finger while others try extremely hard and yet get rejected so many times they probably wouldn’t dare count? Well, pay attention.

*WARNING: THE HOTTER THE GIRL, THE BETTER IT WORKS!

The basic Concept aka things that guys do that cause them to be hopeless

This is what most of you would NATURALLY do when meeting girls. I am not saying it is your fault for acting this way, but sad to tell you, it is the wrong way to act.

1) Be a “gentlemen” and compliment her as many times as you can.
The assumption
She would think you are a really sweet guy and would love to be your Girlfriend.

2) Never say “NO” to her if ever possible. Do her favors and help her with stuff. Including spending money on them for drinks, dinner, movies etc.
The assumption
Guys think that they are by doing stuff for girls, they are “buying” their way into an attraction.

3) Putting her ahead of everyone else and anything else. For e.g. canceling your plans to go to a concert and spend the night talking to her on the phone because she is bored.
The assumption
Guys think that the more time they spend with that girl, the higher their chances of getting them.

4) Ignoring any other girls that show interest in you on the grounds that you are already interested in a particular girl.
The assumption
The girl will be touched by the amount of loyalty that this guy has and would love to be his girlfriend.

This list can go on and on, but instead of focusing of what shouldn’t be done, lets move on to the things that you SHOULD do to create that attraction.

Appearance

Girls are a very special type of species. They will analyze things right down to the final detail and make a pre- judgment of it. So the initial attraction is through your looks.

1)Body Shape
In order to attract the opposite sex, you would have to have a decent body. It doesn’t have to look like Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler. Just have a well-built body that would show that you do workout. As I mentioned earlier, girls tend to analyze everything. So besides the point that you look “hot” in a well built body, they will come to the conclusion that you are not a lazy person that sits around all day eating chips and watching TV the whole day.

How to: Read some of the articles in Bodybuilding.com and start planning a workout routine and stick with it, sooner or later you will see some changes in your body and the way people look at you.

2) Hairstyle/ Hair
Choose a hairstyle that suits you facial looks and appearance. If possible, get it dyed into a nice color but do not over do it. And remember that you should cut your hair every 2.5 weeks on the dot to maintain the look that was working for you.

How to: Go to one of those saloons that have some of those gay hairstylists with creative hairs. Do not be afraid to ask for their opinion on your hairstyle, as 95% of the time the style that they have chosen for you would look modern and cool on you. But do remember the final person that will be looking at that hair for the next couple of weeks will be you. So before the hairstylist cuts your hair be sure you fully understand what he is about to do and make sure it appeals to you also.

* Remember to keep all the hairs on your body trim and not let it grow out of control. Facial hair(including eyebrows), for those with a goatee, should be trimmed daily and a good clean shave for the rest of you. Girls do notice if you didn’t shave this morning.


3)Skin
Having clean and oily free skin can be a very attractive point, be it a male or a female. Every time you see a super hot chick, she usually has pearl smooth and pimple free skin. So a clean look would only do you good.

How to: It is not necessary the you go to a beauty saloon and get a facial. But to prevent pimples from forming, drinking a lot of water daily will help suppress it. Remember to wash your face about –3 times daily to prevent any oil from forming. But do not over wash your face in an attempt to dry out the oil. It will not work, in fact it could worsen your skin condition due to the excessive washing. And if you do have pimples, please DO NOT TOUCH OR SQUEEZE IT. It does help at all, and it will have a high chance of leaving a scar behind. Just use one of Clearesil’s products on facial care and it will clear off after a while. If you face extreme skin conditions, seeing a skin doctor would be a good investment in the long run.

*Not forgetting that a clean diet involving greens will only do you good.

4) Clothes
Girls would be able to tell if your pant matches your shirt etc. So buy something that matches and if you are very skinny do not wear a football jersey that you magnify the fact that you are skinny. Wear clothes that fit you well,

How to: Since girls are very good in analyzing small details, get them to help you. Get a few of your female friends to take you shopping with them. Girls are more then willing to lend a helping hand on dressing you up in something they find attractive.

5) Accessories
Adding a few accessories to yourself will only help you. But do not use too much of that “bling bling” As it will just make you look like a hippie freak. What you would want is to look modern with a dash of style imprinted on you.

How to: Again, you could borrow the help of your female friends on this one too. They would definitely be good at this too. But basically a simple metallic watch, a ring or two and a simple sliver chain would be able to do the trick. DO NOT OVERDO!

6) Colognes
It is very important that you smell good, because no one wants to hang out with a hot guy that has a stench that can be smelt from miles away. Have a few different ones, girls will notice the different smells and will know that you are someone that is not boring.

How to:
· Acqua Di Gio for men by Giorgio Armani
· Dreamer for men by Versace
· Platinum Egoiste For men by chanel
This are the top few that drive women Crazy. Do ot apply them on your clothes as they will fade in a few hours time. Apply them on areas of the body that produce the most body heat. E.g. Wrists, neck, arm pits, and behind the ears( rub on your hands and apply behind the ears, DO NOT SPRAY THE DAMN THING BEHIND YOUR EARS!) You want to smell good, not portray an image of a person that baths in cologne.

[Kill_yourself]

Personality

Now that we have got the look all settled the only thing that would blow it for you is your personality.

1)Mindsets

In order to get any chick you want, you got to first drill this into your head. Drill it in so deep you think you were born with it.
· Every girl truly desires you (VERY Important, Drill this and the rest will fall into place.)
· They need you, but you do not need any particular one of them because a queue is forming waiting for you. SO DO NOT TREAT HER LIKE A GOD!
· When interacting with them, DO NOT imagine them naked or anything your sexual fantasies desires. Just remain in the situation and respond to her.


2) Confidence
Confidence is just something that sweeps women off their feet. When you talk to them with full confidence, they ALWAYS get intimidated! That is because they are desperately trying to figure out why do you actually have so much confidence and the only conclusion is that, talking to girls is something you do on a regular basis and have become accustomed to doing it. With that mindset in them, they will feel inferior to you because they feel that you are treating them as any other girl. This works especially well with hot chicks, due to the fact that they are used to having guys kiss their ass and treating them like queens. But since you are not like the “typical” bunch of chumps, then they will be highly attracted to you.
How to portray Confidence:
· Maintaining eye contact at all times during conversations. DO NOT ever break eye contact with them. You may think it would be wield, but in fact hot chicks are used to maintaining eye contact until guys break first. So when you come along and force them to break first, You have just turn the whole situation on its head.
· Relax! If you are having a standing conversation do not move your hands too much, just keep them at your side and avoid shifting your weight from feet to feet. Just basically relax. Talk to her as if she was one of your guy friends. Treating her like any other friend of yours is the most essential key to creating an image of confidence. If you truly treat here normal she will instantly be hooked onto to you because you are a challenge to her. And not just some other dude that will be more than willing to suck up to her in order to get into her pants.

Also bearing in mind that if you have only confidence and a whole load of it only, you’ll come off as an arrogant jerk. So over confidence can also work to your disadvantage. Try to keep a balance.

3) Humor
Saying something funny is very important in keeping things interesting and humorous. Imagine someone that is full of confidence, but it is a dull person that has no sense of humor what so ever. How would that come off to a girl. BORING!
Ways to be funny in an attractive way:
· Making fun of her silly hairdo. Caution: When creating humor about her looks or the things she does, your tone is the only thing that is stopping her from thinking that you are insulting her. No hot chick likes to be insulted on a regular basis by anyone. Also if you are to make fun of them, do not do it to ugly to average chicks. One person that it would work like a charm on are models. They are so hot that when you say something that sounds insulting, it makes you intriguing because you are different and you do not treat her like a god, which she is used to be treated as.
· Make fun of the chump that was just talking to her in a very unconfident way. If you could imitate him on how he looked from your point of view.

4)Be a man
Being a man does not just mean to have the ability to bang her. It is much more than that.
Traits of a man:
1) One that is firm on his decision and he is not influenced even if she asks for a different decision. E.g. You want your outing with her to be on Wednesday, but she says she would like to stay home to watch her favorite TV Show. Do not suggest going out on Thursday because of this. Tell her if she can’t make it you will find other plans.
2) One that knows that he can get any girl he wants and does not get jealous when he sees the girl that he is interested in dancing with some other guy. E.g. if you see her dancing with this other dude, do not start sitting in a corner and sulk and be pissed at her later. Instead find some other chick to dance with and when it is all over and you get a chance to talk to her, ask her if she had fun and if she is a hot chick, make some comments about her 1980’s dance moves. Just play cool like her little dirty dance with that guy did not affect. If you show her you are pissed, she will know your extreme interest in her and you will no longer be a challenge to her anymore.
3) Does not spend hours on the phone talking to her about practically nothing. A real man stays on the phone for a very short time because he is busy with stuff and does not have time to chit chat like a little girl on the phone. So when talking to her a good 5 – 10 mins max should be enough. This will create a mystery about you as to why you always have things to do. Even if you are free , it does not give you the “right” to chit chat”. However every once in a blue moon a long chat will sent a girl jumping for joy.
4) Does not confess your feelings to her or to anyone and does not confess your interest in her until she does, so basically he is someone that does not show his feelings in front of her.
5) Does not call her daily to check on her and what did she do. For every 3 times that she calls you, call her once. This shows appreciation for her calls and that you took time out to call her. Again, the rule still applies. Duration 10 mins MAX!
6) You do not ask permission for anytime you would like to do. E.g. Can I hold your hand? Or Can I have your phone number? If you want to do sometime, just do it. Do not ask. But be sure the time is right though.
7) If you just got this hot chicks number don’t call her for at least 3 days, and if she doesn’t answer 2 time’s the maximum times that you should attempt to call.
8) Someone that doesn’t do favors for girls. Girls are very wield creatures that naturally like to give guys little test from time to time to observe how would they react. If you are always doing favors for her, she will know she got you within her grasp and you know what she’ll do next? She will find you no longer a challenge and move on.
9) Do not agree on every time she says, have a opinion on things. A good friendly debate sometimes is good. If she doesn’t agree and you can’t stop the argument, do not say” ok ok ok you win. I give up” Instead say “everyone has a different opinion about things, you obviously have your own. So lets leave it as that.”

[TRICK D]

What is the best way to meet the opposite sex?

Now why is it that some guys can get girls in a snap of a finger while others try extremely hard and yet get rejected so many times they probably wouldn’t dare count? Well, pay attention.

*WARNING: THE HOTTER THE GIRL, THE BETTER IT WORKS!

The basic Concept aka things that guys do that cause them to be hopeless

This is what most of you would NATURALLY do when meeting girls. I am not saying it is your fault for acting this way, but sad to tell you, it is the wrong way to act.

1) Be a “gentlemen” and compliment her as many times as you can.
The assumption
She would think you are a really sweet guy and would love to be your Girlfriend.

2) Never say “NO” to her if ever possible. Do her favors and help her with stuff. Including spending money on them for drinks, dinner, movies etc.
The assumption
Guys think that they are by doing stuff for girls, they are “buying” their way into an attraction.

3) Putting her ahead of everyone else and anything else. For e.g. canceling your plans to go to a concert and spend the night talking to her on the phone because she is bored.
The assumption
Guys think that the more time they spend with that girl, the higher their chances of getting them.

4) Ignoring any other girls that show interest in you on the grounds that you are already interested in a particular girl.
The assumption
The girl will be touched by the amount of loyalty that this guy has and would love to be his girlfriend.

This list can go on and on, but instead of focusing of what shouldn’t be done, lets move on to the things that you SHOULD do to create that attraction.

Appearance

Girls are a very special type of species. They will analyze things right down to the final detail and make a pre- judgment of it. So the initial attraction is through your looks.

1)Body Shape
In order to attract the opposite sex, you would have to have a decent body. It doesn’t have to look like Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler. Just have a well-built body that would show that you do workout. As I mentioned earlier, girls tend to analyze everything. So besides the point that you look “hot” in a well built body, they will come to the conclusion that you are not a lazy person that sits around all day eating chips and watching TV the whole day.

How to: Read some of the articles in Bodybuilding.com and start planning a workout routine and stick with it, sooner or later you will see some changes in your body and the way people look at you.

2) Hairstyle/ Hair
Choose a hairstyle that suits you facial looks and appearance. If possible, get it dyed into a nice color but do not over do it. And remember that you should cut your hair every 2.5 weeks on the dot to maintain the look that was working for you.

How to: Go to one of those saloons that have some of those gay hairstylists with creative hairs. Do not be afraid to ask for their opinion on your hairstyle, as 95% of the time the style that they have chosen for you would look modern and cool on you. But do remember the final person that will be looking at that hair for the next couple of weeks will be you. So before the hairstylist cuts your hair be sure you fully understand what he is about to do and make sure it appeals to you also.

* Remember to keep all the hairs on your body trim and not let it grow out of control. Facial hair(including eyebrows), for those with a goatee, should be trimmed daily and a good clean shave for the rest of you. Girls do notice if you didn’t shave this morning.


3)Skin
Having clean and oily free skin can be a very attractive point, be it a male or a female. Every time you see a super hot chick, she usually has pearl smooth and pimple free skin. So a clean look would only do you good.

How to: It is not necessary the you go to a beauty saloon and get a facial. But to prevent pimples from forming, drinking a lot of water daily will help suppress it. Remember to wash your face about –3 times daily to prevent any oil from forming. But do not over wash your face in an attempt to dry out the oil. It will not work, in fact it could worsen your skin condition due to the excessive washing. And if you do have pimples, please DO NOT TOUCH OR SQUEEZE IT. It does help at all, and it will have a high chance of leaving a scar behind. Just use one of Clearesil’s products on facial care and it will clear off after a while. If you face extreme skin conditions, seeing a skin doctor would be a good investment in the long run.

*Not forgetting that a clean diet involving greens will only do you good.

4) Clothes
Girls would be able to tell if your pant matches your shirt etc. So buy something that matches and if you are very skinny do not wear a football jersey that you magnify the fact that you are skinny. Wear clothes that fit you well,

How to: Since girls are very good in analyzing small details, get them to help you. Get a few of your female friends to take you shopping with them. Girls are more then willing to lend a helping hand on dressing you up in something they find attractive.

5) Accessories
Adding a few accessories to yourself will only help you. But do not use too much of that “bling bling” As it will just make you look like a hippie freak. What you would want is to look modern with a dash of style imprinted on you.

How to: Again, you could borrow the help of your female friends on this one too. They would definitely be good at this too. But basically a simple metallic watch, a ring or two and a simple sliver chain would be able to do the trick. DO NOT OVERDO!

6) Colognes
It is very important that you smell good, because no one wants to hang out with a hot guy that has a stench that can be smelt from miles away. Have a few different ones, girls will notice the different smells and will know that you are someone that is not boring.

How to:
· Acqua Di Gio for men by Giorgio Armani
· Dreamer for men by Versace
· Platinum Egoiste For men by chanel
This are the top few that drive women Crazy. Do ot apply them on your clothes as they will fade in a few hours time. Apply them on areas of the body that produce the most body heat. E.g. Wrists, neck, arm pits, and behind the ears( rub on your hands and apply behind the ears, DO NOT SPRAY THE DAMN THING BEHIND YOUR EARS!) You want to smell good, not portray an image of a person that baths in cologne.



too late buddy, although it is before the deadline, they have already made their decision.

[Kill_yourself]

The Art of conversation
Conversations are something that we do on a daily basis, Whether verbally or not, humans just have to communicate. So to achieve excellence with women, this is also an essential part that you would have to learn.

Rules:
1) Maintain eye contact every time you can. As I mentioned earlier, breaking of eye contact tells her that you lack confident and know that you feel inferior.
2) Respond to her. When I mean respond to her, I mean talking to her as a person and do not treat talking to her as an interview.
Example of how to respond:
You: How was your weekend?
Her: it was great! My family drove to the countryside and we spend the weekend at this cabin that my grandfather built a longtime ago.
You: Wow sounds of exciting. The countryside can really take you away from the pressures your daily life. Sometimes a good wind down is all we need to get recharged.
Her: yeah, my work hours are long and boring ! Actually I have been planning this for weeks already.
You: c’mon you would have to exaggerating! Weeks?! ( look her from head to toe and back to her eyes again) You don’t look like the sort that you do such a thing.

Example of a bad conversation:
You: How was your weekend?
Her: it was great! My family drove to the countryside and we spend the weekend at this cabin that my grandfather built a longtime ago.
You: you had fun?
Her: yes I did actually, My family and I are a very close batch. We always enjoy ourselves to the fullest every time we get a chance to go on an outing like this.
You: Sounds cool enough. So do you have a job now?

See the difference? The second example has someone is just not respond to the conversation.
So Please respond to her and stop asking so many damn questions.

3) As mentioned earlier, do not be distracted by any thing when talking to her. Give her a attention she desires.

For example:
If she is sharing a childhood story with you about her grandmother, do not cut her halfway and say “ So anyways, what do you feel like doing now?”

4) keep the conversation about things that are positive.
Do not start complaining to her about how the waiter is talking so damn long to get your food, and you are hungry blah blah blah.

5) Lines
First of all, pickup lines do not work. The best way to start a conversation is just to say hi and starting talking, or you could say “ I noticed you just now and I wanted to meet you”

Now for the closing:
I mentioned earlier that you are supposed to be a man about things and not ask permission for that things that you want. So when asking for her number, do not go” So could I have your number” by saying that you have already given her the choice of rejecting you which means she is in control. Instead say, “ You look like someone cool to hang out with, we should hang out sometime”. If you had done the things I have mentioned earlier she will definitely give you her number. If she doesn’t , say” I would give you the chance to give me your number” (shows confidence) by now she would give it to you. BUT if she still doesn’t give it to you, do not say, why not or please blah blah blah. Just say cool. Its fine. And now you can either walk off or continue the conversation. Be cool about it like it didn’t matter anyway.

Now here is a trick I know to raise their interest in knowing you even further,
After she has given you her number, ask for a palm and study it. Then look into her eyes and say wow. And then tell you have something on and that you have to go. If will definitely be incredibly intrigued and would insist on you telling her what was that all about. But stay firm and tell her you will tell her some other time. Then Go.

Nice guys( chumps)
Girls do not let sweet girls or nice guys get the privilege to be their boyfriends. They want someone that is basically a “man” Not some wimp that does every thing for her and agrees with every thing she says and pays for everything. Because it a human nature to accept and try their best to conquer challenges presented to them.
So the conclusion is that nice guys will always be pushed into a corner called the “lets just be friends” zone. I know this for a fact because I have personally been through that stage in my life.


Bonus:
I once tried the things that I have stated above to this pure and innocent girl that is virgin and have never tried kissing before. You know she is not lying by the way she acts. So after trying the stuff on her, she doesn’t seem to be repond well to it. In fact after about 1-2 months she gave up calling me daily and stop calling altogether. I was wondering why? So I got a mutual friend to help me do some snooping around( I broke the rule of never let other know about your feelings. I did this as an experiment) The friend found out that she felt that I was unattainable to her and she gave up.
The moral of the story:
The purer is the chick especially virgins, you are must tune the rules to fit them. Which means cutting some slack on the rules to still make you look attainable.

Final note:
If you someone that have always had poor luck with women, I hope this article has helped you realized what you have been doing wrong. If you think this material is complete and utterly bull****, just give a try. If you think about it, you have nothing to loss anyway. You are at the bottom of the pit anyway.
Caution: one more thing, girls remember things very well right down to the finest detail. Once you have entered the “lets just be friends” zone would will never be able to get out no matter what you do. You condemn in their eyes for the rest of your life. So if you are thinking of trying this to this chick that you have been trying to get for the last 2 years forget about it. Because chances are you have already been labeled in their minds. REMEMBER CONFIDENCE IS THE KEY!

[Kill_yourself]

this is unfair i spent 3 days on that article and it the winner is picked before the deadline is up!

[bigcalves]

too bad its already late. the forums its 12;51 AM FRIDAY. sorry bud try next time one time. i got cheated that way once too. oh well, learn ur lesson and turn it in on time next time.

[bigcalves]

yay saw the link and i got 3rd :)

[MantisShrimp]

Yeah seriously, my post was mostly a joke (oddly, women love humor yet rarely display much of it themselves in comparison to men) but as stated here numerous times, confidence is the number one trait. Confidence ranges from a sense of personal success. Confidence comes from "hitting your numbers," in other words, living up to your self-image. If you have tremendously low standards for yourself, you can be a total bum and be confident. Women will be attracted to you, unless you're hideous (I know a guy with about 30-40% BF that pulls lean girls, all the time. He is ugly as ****.) If you have insanely high, perfectionist ideals for yourself, then you could easily be the pinnacle of success and fitness in the eyes of other men and even women, and still be unable to get a date.

So if you want women, do everything you know you need to do. If your goals are astronomical, then either become an astronaut, or change them. We are attracted to hot, lean women because we believe they represent success. What we want is not the actual person, but the feeling we get from knowing that someone who has their **** together values us. The only way to cause others to value you, is to allow YOU to value you first, by synchronizing your self-image with your level of commitment to life's duties and maintenances. People only mirror our sentiments about ourselves. Self-assurance and PUA studies can only take you so far if you are not living up to who you know you need to be. Even the most advanced skills require execution, and the will to execute comes from your core.

All these other things, brushing your teeth, eating mints, whatever else, are just peripheral extensions of this one core issue.

[webmaster]

The winners have not been announced in the forum. They will be posted first thing in the morning because of the amount of great respones.

The winners will be posted in the Who Won This Week forum.

There is going to be a three way tie for third...

Will
Webmaster

[TRICK D]

thanks for clearifying that will....

[Ironman88]

Sorry for jumping the gun with that link guys.

[ravadongon]

Congrats to the winners, but I officially retire from writing articles.


There is no reason for me to write 5 pages worth of information on word with 12 font times new roman, and include personal stories unlike most of you, and lose to someone who didn't write even 1 page. I have had my rounds with webmaster for judging the entries too early, i have complained about how one week the question was who is going to win the arnold classic, and I was the only one that knew dexter jackson was going to win, and also knew the top 7 winners. I am tired of questions that involve certain aspects, like for instance personal stories, and I get shafted. I assume that webmaster knows who buys from the site and who doesn't, and I assume that because I don't buy supplements from this site, I get taken advantage of.


I am a junior Marketing major, that is getting ready to enter an accelerated masters program where there are just 6 other people. I have lost to people who write 10 run on sentences when I write 5 pages.

I really did this just to help the people who need help picking up women, or need advice with bodybuilding, but I guess there is no reason, when my fellow collegues disrespect me time after time.

Congrats to the winners. I guess you all are better than me.

Dustin

Mate, I think the articles the judge is looking for are short, concise, well structured articles, that answer all the questions asked. The large majority of people aren't going to read over 2 pages worth of writing, so the judges will always tend to pick the 1 page articles...

Don't be discouraged though, I've always found your articles to be very good, especially this weeks :)

[scotgus]

try ignoring them or reading a book when in the vicinity of them.Not to the point of rudeness obviously.Just be disinterested in them.They will come to you.happens all the time to me,and when they do you can start chatting or flirting confidently as you know they are interested.Think its because they see you as a challenge or unusual they want to check you out.I learned this in my early twenties and couldn't belive the results.

[TRICK D]

Mate, I think the articles the judge is looking for are short, concise, well structured articles, that answer all the questions asked. The large majority of people aren't going to read over 2 pages worth of writing, so the judges will always tend to pick the 1 page articles...

Don't be discouraged though, I've always found your articles to be very good, especially this weeks :)


Hey i appreciate it, I'm not mad... just spent a lot of time on it... and If i win or not, it doesn't matter, i actually do it not for the money but to help average joes out there with problems.

[Oh_Riginal]

Guys that have no problem meeting girls are as natural and relaxed in their attitude as if they were hanging out with the guys. The reason that some guys can't get "dates" no matter how hard they is because they TRY SO HARD. Allow me to explain:

One aspect of our instinctive theory as people is that the harder we bust our asses, the more fruitful our results. While this may work in a personal aspect in areas such as... oh, say... bodybuilding, one must realize that gaining a desired reception from OTHER people requires a diferent viewpoint.

For example, if you're looking to buy a car, who would you be more likely to make a purchase from: a salesman who's constantly in-your-face, trying different cheesy lines and techniques, and basically doing everything but beg; or a guy who makes a natural conversation and acts relaxed as if he doesn't care whether or not he sells you a car? It's the exact same way with meeting women: if you use crappy pick-up lines (a bit redundant if you ask me) and constantly hound a woman buy calling her all the time and offering her gifts, don't you think that you'll come off as a bit of a weirdo stalker?

Now that we've got a few of the ridiculous habits and tendencies out in the open let's establish on a few more essentials:

1. There is no such thing as a formidable pick-up line. Trust me. If there were actually a magic line that could get any woman you wanted to jump your bones, we'd all would have given up our life savings just to know it. Hell, I would've told you guys for free just to spread the joy. However, since there is no guarantees, the best thing to keep in mind is speaking to a woman on impulse rather than "rehearsing" what you will say to her and adding pressure to yourself. Just saying "Hi." or "How's it going?" is a great conversation starter with no added cheese.

2. How you look does hold a little tact, but it's a FAR CRY from the importance of a good personality. I'll admit that good looks will help you get a foot in the door, but it won't keep you in the house. Don't believe me? Take a look at every hot chick/ugly dude couple you see(and we've ALL seen them) and just try to stay in denial. Obviously, confidence and comfortability will prevail, because if these guys constantly complained about how ugly they were and sobbed to others about their woes, they would be unlucky shmoes as well. Theoretically, if you really feel that you're the man, then you essentialy are.

Never beat up on yourself. It just looks like you're trying to pick up cheap pity-points, and that's just tacky. Instead, focus on your strong qualities and use them to build your confidence up. If you have nice white teeth, smile a lot. If you're funny, crack a few good jokes. Never sell yourself short.


3. How you're dressed or groomed doesn't do all the work either, but if you have cleanly groomed hair, have a decent cologne, and know how to coordinate your wardrobe, it does portray an image of a guy who has his priorities straight and takes care of himself. Of course, as with good looks, this is just a foot in the door, but women notice things like nice shoes or clean clothes, so this will probably get more approaches FROM women.

Also, if you don't know how to coordinate yourself, just ask a woman you know. ANY woman. Ask your mom if you have to, and don't be embarrassed to admit if you're an average guy with bad taste. As a matter of fact, I don't know my way around the closet that well. I ask female friends all the time to go shopping with me; after all, I feel I have nothing to lose, except maybe some bucks.

5. Most importantly, NEVER put meeting women as a first priority in life. If being lonely and not having any women is getting in the way of your career, your education, your religion, or any other important responsibilities that you hold in your life, then having a girl isn't going to fix any of your problems. Besides, what girl would ultimately want to be around some unstable guy who has his priorities criss-crossed? Believe me; it shows. When I started college, I used to put so much concentration in trying to snag college girls that my grades were horrible in that first year. When I finally got myself straightened out, girls just seemed to flock towards me because I seemed so mature and focused.

Now don't get me wrong; you shouldn't isolate yourself into a room and never pursue a social life or anything like that. In fact, you should have a stbale life of your own. It'll keep you from obsessing women all the time if you go see a movie or play some poker with your buddies or something. What girl wants a guy with no life of his own, who desperately looks to her for company?

In conclusion, hopelessness is just glorified impatience. If you just act cool about it, accept and learn from your mistakes, and keep the drama bombs to a minimum, you'll do fine with the ladies.

Whew.

[drewkowsky]

jeez you guys overanalyze
be yourself thats all
it works

[gust]

IMO, Kill_yourself should have won ! Great job man!

[DaEagles4Life]

Kill Yourself def should have won..its a shame

[surfrider]

seek the lord first, and he will fufill the desires of your heart!!

keep pumpin weight....amen

[shai1]

just jump in
and say hi im the ****master or something
if you look good
your accepted(:

[badmashii]

my first post, here goes:

1. when you go out, look around for a guy that is similiar to you (ethnicity, height, weight, face, hair style, appearance) and see what kind of girl they are with. it gives you a pretty good idea what the competition has and if you were the competition, someone you might have. e.g. you will not see a fat dude with a model material chick, unless you're a $hot caller.

2. do not try to be unique and dress in a funky style to be different from the rest. cuz when everybody deviates from the rest, they all end up the same; weird. wear stuff that appeals to the chick you want. if you want a gangsta chick, she isn't going to be interested in a preppy chad that plays croquet.

3. don't be yourself. why? she will ultimatly find out your true colors and will not like it. why ruin her image of you so soon? in the beginning, let her see you in her own perspective as a great guy. e.g. if she says, "why is a nice guy like you single?" then you are in luck.

4. be confident, stay positive. if you go in already knowing you lost before it even started, then you are truly a loser. remember, there is always hope until the very end. even when she says "NO" ask again somewhere down the line, she might change her mind when she sees how crappy the other guys are, or ask why she says no.

5. stay cool with speedstick, not nervous, talk normally, no pickup lines, no slick moves. make sure you express your interest in her by giving her compliments.

6. make no excuses for yourself. when you see what you want AND she is in your league, then go for it. don't try to go for the hottest girl in the room because she will not be interested. even if you did talk to her, she will not be yours.


that should be enough, try it out!

oh yeah, if you land a date with my info, please give me a rep point. this way, i will know that what i wrote helped make a difference for somebody.