derekmac's SAN Blaze log....

[derekmac]

I recently purchased a bottle of SAN Blaze from the cyberstore to stack with EC. I had read some positive reviews from Lonny and Nandi, and I wanted to try the product for myself.

SAN Blaze (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/san/blaze.html)

I have been using 3 capsules 3X a day, and I must say that I am very impressed with this product so far. Weight is down 2.5 lbs. from 227.5 to 225, with an actual decrease in exercise (I have been recovering from a bad cold recently, so I was only able to get in a couple of workouts this past week, as opposed to my usual 4-5 days a week workouts). I have also not been eating as cleanly as I usually do. I am noticably leaner in the midsection and obliques.

I do not notice an increase in body temparature, but I like this product thus far.

I will keep this updated on a week to week basis; the bottle will last about 20 days at full dosing.

[sawastea]

Derek, firstly, thanks for your thoughts. When you're done with this, I'd be VERY interested to see how this compares with Tight!. Considering you're adding EC to Blaze, and you've done Tight! + E, the comparison would be really beneficial to many members here.

[Lok7y]

Any [joint] soreness?

[Sixpack]

How are energy levels?

[gfletch]

Definatley interested in seeing how things turn out. Good luck

[Splant]

Im glad to see you are doing this log but i got a question, Can you stack tight and blaze together and if you can any dosing recomendations? Thanks for all your help, good luck
Sean

[daveburton]

Im glad to see you are doing this log but i got a question, Can you stack tight and blaze together and if you can any dosing recomendations? Thanks for all your help, good luck
Sean

probably one cap of each three times per day

[derekmac]

Derek, firstly, thanks for your thoughts. When you're done with this, I'd be VERY interested to see how this compares with Tight!. Considering you're adding EC to Blaze, and you've done Tight! + E, the comparison would be really beneficial to many members here.

I have actually never used Tight! with an EC before, though I have used Lipo-6 and Redline with EC.

I think that this product is actually superior to Tight!

[derekmac]

Any [joint] soreness?

No more than usual.

[derekmac]

How are energy levels?

They are great, though I would warn people not to exceed the recommended dosage on this product. Also, DO NOT take this at the same time as you are taking an EC. I did that by mistake, and I thought I was going to climb the walls.

SAN recommends that you take no more than 4 caps in a 24 hour period. I usually take one when I get up in the evening (I work graveyard shift), one at midnight, and one just before breakfast, all with a full glass of water.

[derekmac]

Im glad to see you are doing this log but i got a question, Can you stack tight and blaze together and if you can any dosing recomendations? Thanks for all your help, good luck
Sean

You certainly can; SAN recommends that you do so for synergistic results.

I would take 1 capsule of Tight! 2X per day, and Blaze 1 capsule 3X a day.

I should also mention that there have been no changes in sleeping habits, so this bears out the label claim as a "stimulant free" fat burner.

[sawastea]

I have actually never used Tight! with an EC before, though I have used Lipo-6 and Redline with EC.

I think that this product is actually superior to Tight!

Well I feel like an ass.

Good to hear you're liking it.

[brumbartcheto]

I think that this product is actually superior to Tight!

Glad to hear that – I personally have only tacky & irredeemable associations with “Tight!”.

Derekmac, - I asked Lonny for the same btw. - I would love to know if “Blaze” indeed doesn’t have any negative influence on the thyroid function, as SAN claims. In that sense, is there a chance that you run a TSH blood test after you cease with the supplement?

Thanks.

[RippedUp]

Derekmac, - I asked Lonny for the same btw. - I would love to know if “Blaze” indeed doesn’t have any negative influence on the thyroid function, as SAN claims. In that sense, is there a chance that you run a TSH blood test after you cease with the supplement?


Stop looking for fat burners. You don't need them. Especially those such as Blaze.

[brumbartcheto]

Stop looking for fat burners. You don't need them. Especially those such as Blaze.

Hahaha ... You are totally correct. You missed to consider one of the most significant features of my character, though … the interest in the details … ;)

[Splant]

You certainly can; SAN recommends that you do so for synergistic results.

I would take 1 capsule of Tight! 2X per day, and Blaze 1 capsule 3X a day.

I should also mention that there have been no changes in sleeping habits, so this bears out the label claim as a "stimulant free" fat burner.

Thanks man, I used to be an ephedra fiend, to an extent, so its hard to find something to give me a kick and that rush that I like. Probably order me up a bottle of both tight and blaze, thanks yall.
Sean

[musclescientist]

I have actually never used Tight! with an EC before, though I have used Lipo-6 and Redline with EC.

I think that this product is actually superior to Tight!

Have to disagree with you, but I am obviously bias. The best working stack for me right now is the following:

9:00am ---- 25mg Ephedrine, 100mg Blaze

12:00pm ---- 1 Capsule Tight + 100mg R-Ala, 100mg Blaze

3:00pm ---- 1 Capsule Tight + 25mg Ephedrine + Blaze

I lost at least 6-8 pounds of fat while keeping my regular LBM

[Lok7y]

No more than usual.

Intriguing.

[derekmac]

Intriguing.

Must be the Xtend ;)

[derekmac]

Have to disagree with you, but I am obviously bias. The best working stack for me right now is the following:

9:00am ---- 25mg Ephedrine, 100mg Blaze

12:00pm ---- 1 Capsule Tight + 100mg R-Ala, 100mg Blaze

3:00pm ---- 1 Capsule Tight + 25mg Ephedrine + Blaze

I lost at least 6-8 pounds of fat while keeping my regular LBM

If I had the cash, I would try this, but seperately, I really enjoy Blaze+EC. Nandi had a nice experiment going with Thyro-Cuts II and Blaze, which is something I may try in the future.

[dwm230000]

I am on my third day of Blaze and I am taking it the same way as Derek (1 pill 3 times a day). I was wondering if I should be taking Milk Thistle or NAC during or after this cycle since Blaze is a methylated substance. I really have no knowledge about methylated substances and I apologize if this is a stupid question, but I heard it suggested on a few other threads and was wondering if taking these along with Blaze may be necessary. Thanks for any help.

[Splant]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par39.htm

This is more abouth methylated steroids, but in in Patrick Arnold said that NAC could be taken with the methylated substance to help if there was any liver toxicity as well. I am curious on this subject as well. Hopefully this helps a little
Sean

[Lok7y]

Just because a compound has a methyl group in its structure does not just make it magically toxic. [for example: betaine, also known as tri-methyl-glycine, has three methyl groups, and is anything BUT toxic]

It would seem the methyl and ethylcarbonate esters are just being included to increase lymphatic absorption, not directly hinder hepatic metabolism. This would not increase toxicity.

Then again, conversely, the companies using these have presented jack-nada peer-reviewed literature (ditto for the ethylcarbonate ester--the literature just isn't there. We [Avant] did some browsing back when Biotest started pimping this "technology", and we didn't find a damn thing).

I asked Par about it, and he doesn't believe these to be toxic, but he can't actually confirm that because there's no actual research data on these sorts of esters.

[Splant]

Thanks for the information. I am very ignorant to the whole chemistry of all this stuff, but its very interesting to learn about. Do you think you should take a liver support suppliment with this and other methylated compounds?
sean

[LatsMakeTheMan]

Great thread so far......seems everyone's got something good and informative to say (other than me:D )

Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

[Lok7y]

Thanks for the information. I am very ignorant to the whole chemistry of all this stuff, but its very interesting to learn about. Do you think you should take a liver support suppliment with this and other methylated compounds?
sean

Considering compounds like this aren't 17alpha-alkylated to render them immune to hepatic metabolism, my hypothesis is that liver protection is unnecessary for these sorts of esters, since they're not taxing the cytochrome system to any degree.


This does not apply to methylated steroids however, which is an entirely different (and more hepatotoxic) matter, although even here I think a.) the risks are generally overstated and I know b.) the liver displays a remarkable capacity for regeneration.

[derekmac]

Progress has slowed a bit since last week; I am at the same weight. This can be explained by a cheat meal the day before, and the fact that I have not been as vigilent with exercise as I need to be. Plus, I am cycling off of the EC as we speak.

On a positive note, my wife has noticed my midsection and obliques getting leaner. Clothes fit great as well.

[Splant]

Thanks for all the great info lok7y. I appreciate it, plus its pretty interesting.
Sean