creatine vs whey

[anorld]

should I use creatine or whey, and how much?
I know whey is used to supply protein and it is absorbed quickly, but I have no idea about creatine.
I heard that somebody said creatine is more effective to make you big than whey.....

[whiplash]

They are a personal choice. personally I take both, however 100% Whey is a great all rounder, creatine is also for increasing muscle strength, bigger and stronger. However, nothing substitutes for lifting!

[BarbellSquat]

They are a personal choice. personally I take both, however 100% Whey is a great all rounder, creatine is also for increasing muscle strength, bigger and stronger. However, nothing substitutes for lifting!
u mean nothing substitures for real food such as chiken, tuna, fish

[*KNUCKLEHEAD*]

i use ON whey, and creatine, pretty great basic combo for me - relatively inexpensive too. start off takin whey as soon as ya wake up and right after u lift. if your system reacts well after a week or 2, maybe u wanna try some creatine. i love optimum nutrition whey (chocolate), online its half price of retail for the 5 lb jugs. no frills CEE creatine is pretty cheap also.

[whiplash]

u mean nothing substitures for real food such as chiken, tuna, fish

that too bro

supps are dietary "supplements"

[ajzoot]

Creatine is a sports supplement.
Whey is a dietry supplement.

Unless you're diet is spot on amazing, get the whey(even if it is perfect, Nothing beats a whey PWO shake)

[Colin Gilbert]

Whey and creatine won't do anything if you don't lift... The only thing they'll help for is if you're on a calorie-reduced diet and you can't find the time to lift. I believe they'll help you keep from losing too much muscle-mass in that case. But even then, you should make the time to lift!

[Colin Gilbert]

u mean nothing substitures for real food such as chiken, tuna, fish

True... Natural protein sources such as cottage cheese, yogurt, chicken, beef, nuts, canned fish, oats, etc, tend to be cheaper than whey powder, gram for gram.

Whey is a great and easy way (no pun intended) to meet your daily protein requirements if you can't stomach four cans of tuna and a tub of cottage cheese a day, though.

[anorld]

They are a personal choice. personally I take both, however 100% Whey is a great all rounder, creatine is also for increasing muscle strength, bigger and stronger. However, nothing substitutes for lifting!
If I can only afford to buy one kind of supplement, then choosing which one is better, whey or creatine?

[Sotally_Tober]

personally id go with the whey.

you can have whey 3 times a day. and its good if you dont get enough protien, to just whip up a shake and get the extra protien you need.

whey all the way! :)

[Mother Goose]

If I can only afford to buy one kind of supplement, then choosing which one is better, whey or creatine?

Firstly, creatine is dirt cheap. It's about $50 CAN for half a year's supply. Usually, the problem is whether people can afford whey (which, though isn't expensive, refilling is) or none at all; not whether people can afford creatine or whey.

Let me tell ya something. 1 scoop of protein powder only contains ~24g of protein. That's really not a lot. You get the same from most cans of tuna. 3 cups of milk will net you 27 g of casein protein. 3 whole eggs have 24 g of protein.

What I'm trying to say is that if your diet is solid (especially if you live with your parents and can coerce them into buying high protein foods), then there should be less of a need to buy protein supplements.

That being said, there are still advantages to using whey protein. Like fast absorbtion post workout (compared to the slow absorbtion if you use milk as a substitute), as well as pure convenience (sometimes, you just don't feel like eating any tuna!)

[THESHAWNRAYWAY]

Id go with whey before creatine, but if possible id be doing both at the same time.

[Devil_n27]

should I use creatine or whey, and how much?
I know whey is used to supply protein and it is absorbed quickly, but I have no idea about creatine.
I heard that somebody said creatine is more effective to make you big than whey.....

Whey and Creatine are two complete different things. All protein is not absorbed as fast as others, is depends on what kind you are taking ie, isolate, casine ect. If you have know idea about creatine I would recomend that you do some research on it before you you put it in your body. Not to say that it is in anyway harmful, I would just think anyone using any supp would know what it is before they started using it, and not just go off the fact that someone said it will make you big.
On another note, if you are lifting weights and going to the gym I would recomend a good Whey powder as a part of your every day diet. If used together Whey and creatine can be a great combo, and I dont think the the ? should be Whey or creatine but how much whey and creatine.

Whey:
1 shake morning
1 shake pre w/o
1 shake post w/o
1 shake night before bed
remember that whey is a supp and will never take the place of whole foods, if you want to get big you got to have your diet in check first before anything.

Creatine:
5g ed of Creatine Ethyl Ester
no front loading
you can do 2.5 pre and 2.5 post w/o if you want.

Once again research it all before you put it in your body, and make sure you have a good diet plan in place as well or you will be busting your ass for know reason.

[Devil_n27]

If I can only afford to buy one kind of supplement, then choosing which one is better, whey or creatine?

Creatine ethyl ester...500g...$25.00
5lbs jug Whey isolate...$26.50
If you want more info PM me

[Gimpslayer]

Whey and Creatine are totally different things.

Creatine helps your body better utilize what nutrients are available. So, if your diet is poor then Creatine won't do anything at all.

Whey is a nutrient. It is a substitute for protien from whole foods (lean meat, etc.).

Personally I'd go for both. But if you can only afford one, then you need to figure out which is better for your specific case. If you have no problem getting *good* meals every day (fast food doesn't count!) with lots of lean meat, then the creatine is probably a better choice.

On the other hand, if your meals aren't very good then the Whey is a good way to add protein (and usually some other nutrients) to your diet. Make up a shake and drink it after your workout every day.

Whey is generally 25 grams or so "per scoop". That doesn't sound like anything special, but it's no big deal to have 2 or even 3 scoops at a time. It's much easier to drink a 50-75 gram protein shake than it is to choke down a similar amount of whole foods.

[anorld]

Firstly, creatine is dirt cheap. It's about $50 CAN for half a year's supply. Usually, the problem is whether people can afford whey (which, though isn't expensive, refilling is) or none at all; not whether people can afford creatine or whey.

Let me tell ya something. 1 scoop of protein powder only contains ~24g of protein. That's really not a lot. You get the same from most cans of tuna. 3 cups of milk will net you 27 g of casein protein. 3 whole eggs have 24 g of protein.

What I'm trying to say is that if your diet is solid (especially if you live with your parents and can coerce them into buying high protein foods), then there should be less of a need to buy protein supplements.

That being said, there are still advantages to using whey protein. Like fast absorbtion post workout (compared to the slow absorbtion if you use milk as a substitute), as well as pure convenience (sometimes, you just don't feel like eating any tuna!)
It seems you know quite a lot about nutritions. Could you kindly show me a comparison among eggs, milk powder, and tuna? (in terms of how fast they are absorbed, how much whey/casein do they contain)
Thanks a lot!

[kendog]

True... Natural protein sources such as cottage cheese, yogurt, chicken, beef, nuts, canned fish, oats, etc, tend to be cheaper than whey powder, gram for gram.


Actually I think it would be around 7 bags of chicken breasts to equal one 5lb tub of whey. And thats if the bags have 6 breasts each in them @ 40 grams protein a piece.

7 bags chicken breasts = $47 plus tax ( 1680 grams protein)
5lb whey = $25 with shipping (1675 grams protein)

Whey is cheaper.

[wbwell]

If I had to pick one, I would def pick whey. Remember- "protein is the building block of muscle."

[LB4LB.]

Whey - hands down