arginine and erections

[gaberox]

whenever i supplement with no2 i get amazing erections doesnt this mean there is a lot more blood flow to the penis?and doesnt it take nitric oxide to increase the blood flow anywhere in the body?so wouldnt this mean that the rest of the body is producing xtra no.i also seem to get a great pump with no2.maybe its all in my head.my vascularity is through the roof but this could be from training all by itself.i just here so many mixed reviews on the product i dont want to waste money just for a good erection.it seems to work for me but at the same time maybe its just the training stimulus by itself.its just so expensive.anyone have any scientific input on the subject.the product seems to work well but not to the extent of the advertising.although my skin seems to tighten up around my muscles.i was sold on this product unitl i read so many negative things about it on this site.

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[Styleee]

If you respond well to arginine, as you apparently do, it is definitely an amazing prduct and totally worth it IMO. I always supplement with it, and yes, it could enhance erections.

[gaberox]

well i know the erections are not a placebo but does arginine really produce
no2 as promised or am i spending big bucks for bigger boner?i wish someone could ansewer my questions on this post scientifically but i guess there isnt enough research done.wut if all the benefits are jus from the training alone.
im so confused. i was tottaly sold on this stuff until i read some things on this site.somone help stylee wut kink of product do you use and wut r ur benefits?

[Styleee]

Arginine is the main ingredient NO2 supplements use to give you a "perpetual pump" after and during workout.

Arginine is a Vasodilator which opens up your veins allowing more blood flow which can lead to a more vascular look, with fuller muscles, same goes with erections.

"wut if all the benefits are jus from training alone."

You tell me, do you get the pumps when you're off the products as you get them while on them?

NO2 supplements are staples for me.

[gaberox]

why is there just so much negative propaganda against argingine on these boards.i just dont want to waste hundreds of dollars on a placebo.although i did notice when i stopped taking it my skin loosend up and my vascularity diminished.plus if the blood is flowing to the penis must be flowing all toghether everywhere.i guess maybe some peope respond and others dont.
may have somthing to do with ur bodys natural blood circulation.but no denying the pumps are better and the sorness is less.what kind of product do you take Styleee and wut is ur suggestion for best results for the cheapest.
althoug money doesnt really matter if it does wut its supposed to.of course its not as amazing as the ad but it does do somthing for me.i just wish there was solid scientific evidence that oral arginine produces no2.I guess ill just have to give it another cycle.and suggesions or comments are welcomed negaative of positive.i also wish there was a scientific study showing dialation of blood vessels.oh well. one more cycle.the penis pump is worth it any way so says my girl.the thing than worries me is u sound like an no2 ad.
if anyone can ansewer any other issues from my original post please do so

[Tim_G]

the theory behind NO2 is that since the blood vessels are dialated, more nutrients are getting into the muscle, thus they will grow larger than without supplementing with NO2. It really doesn't do that. It does give bigger pumps that last longer, so if that helps motivate you then use it.

[gaberox]

if there is no scientific evidence it dialates blood vessels how do you explain
the erections and the taunt skin? pus how does it give you an xtra pump without dialation of blood vessels and and where does the blood flow to the muscles come from? just curiours and if it does give you xtra motivation thats pricless atlthough i have plenty of that without spendin big money i could be using that money on **** like qulity pp ad kre alkalyn or cee.i just wish there was a valid study on weather or not it dialates blood vessels cause it seems like it does for me but then again i have bad cirrculation.either way it gives me huge erections and extended ejaculatoary response which means blood is fowing.

[mavericko]

I have tried this stuff too, but many years ago when it first started coming out, and remember the better erections, but my question now is, does this product also help with endurance training like running, considering it helps blood flow?

[gaberox]

i just want cut and dry scientific evidence on this subjuect.non biased lab study is there any way to measure no2 production or dialation of blodd vessels after oral argingine supplementation.in highly trained athletes [body builders basketball players etc]is such a vague subjec and everyone has somithin different to say.pleas help with more posts on the particular areas
of this subject

[KTITAN54]

well.. i dont know but yall but i just got some of NOW's l-arginine with 302 servings for $25!! 302 servings!! For me it works the same (though not better) than most other no2 products. I just double the dosage and take in the morning and b4 workouts and still 151 servings for a great price!

[gaberox]

I have tried this stuff too, but many years ago when it first started coming out, and remember the better erections, but my question now is, does this product also help with endurance training like running, considering it helps blood flow?

thats been my favorite benifite of this producut is that it allows me to exercise for hours on end and not feel to tired the next day.once again though
is this a placebo?it just seems like if most people get better erections there must be blood flowing everywhere which is wut its supposed to be all about.
not to mention i love the pump when i work out.but taking this stuff i think is all about timing.

[gaberox]

well.. i dont know but yall but i just got some of NOW's l-arginine with 302 servings for $25!! 302 servings!! For me it works the same (though not better) than most other no2 products. I just double the dosage and take in the morning and b4 workouts and still 151 servings for a great price. quote

so youve tried the whole aakg special delivery system and you think its bull ****?wut benifits do yo expirience with the cheap ****.cause i take the recomeded dose or mri no2 plus 5 grams of gnc brand pre workout.i get great pumps vascularity and erection. plus xtra endurance.but i started taking all this before i started working out after a layoff so i dont know if its a placebo.
although i took it about a year ago and noticed a difference when i stopped unless it was in my head.i take about 13 grams a day with no side effects at
at a cut 150 5ft 8.i just wish i knew if the mri delivery system was bs or not.
plus 50% of people on this board say its all worthless.

[_STEELhead_]

i just want cut and dry scientific evidence on this subjuect.non biased lab study is there any way to measure no2 production or dialation of blodd vessels after oral argingine supplementation.in highly trained athletes [body builders basketball players etc]is such a vague subjec and everyone has somithin different to say.pleas help with more posts on the particular areas
of this subject
If you want science then this is not the place maan. Search and you shall find. Don't ask us, we're not scientists. Just do a few searches of the web and I guarantee u'll find some info. I just ordered some Legal Gear Cold Fusion which is a liquid NO2 product. I think it should be better than pills and powder because it's easier to absorb by the body but we'll see. Hope it works and it's pretty cheap too. $30 for 30 days(only workout days). I'm gonna give it a shot

[gaberox]

please keep the posts comin on the topic

[aCCel]

BSN Nitrix advertises side effects such as enchanced performance and possible growth. check out their site. It's an no2 product with alot of arginine so any no2 product will potentially have the same effect. If u wanna read more about nitrix's claim goto the BSN website.

[murdock_]

a little OT but, once your off arganine, or no2 what happens? is it temporary strength giver and just make ur muscles look bigger cause of more blood? or do u actually gain strength that lasts?(once ur off) thanks in advance

[gaberox]

BSN Nitrix advertises side effects such as enchanced performance and possible growth. check out their site. It's an no2 product with alot of arginine so any no2 product will potentially have the same effect. If u wanna read more about nitrix's claim goto the BSN website.

have u tried this product cause i dont trust any ads.ive tried mri no2 and plain ol l-arginine with decent results.but im not sure if its just a placebo.
i take up to 15 grams a day which seems to work better than the 6-10 grams recomended.i could care less about claims i want results.

[gaberox]

a little OT but, once your off arganine, or no2 what happens? is it temporary strength giver and just make ur muscles look bigger cause of more blood? or do u actually gain strength that lasts?(once ur off) thanks in advance

i did notice when i stoped takin it a difference especially in the chest and forarms not to mention my veins seemed to shrink along with my skin loosening as far as strengh i cant tell beacuse around the same time i stopped taken in i had to stop training.bud i did seem to keep a little somthin.which could have been from training itself.but when on it the pumps seemed to be there whis is really cool.
just expensive for some swollen muscles.but there is more to it.i hope cause ive spent a lot of money on it and not been to disapointed. but i cant garuntee to u its worth it.it might have somthing to do with ur bodys natural blood flow which could explain why some peope respond and others dont.

[KTITAN54]

well.. i dont know but yall but i just got some of NOW's l-arginine with 302 servings for $25!! 302 servings!! For me it works the same (though not better) than most other no2 products. I just double the dosage and take in the morning and b4 workouts and still 151 servings for a great price. quote

so youve tried the whole aakg special delivery system and you think its bull ****?wut benifits do yo expirience with the cheap ****.cause i take the recomeded dose or mri no2 plus 5 grams of gnc brand pre workout.i get great pumps vascularity and erection. plus xtra endurance.but i started taking all this before i started working out after a layoff so i dont know if its a placebo.
although i took it about a year ago and noticed a difference when i stopped unless it was in my head.i take about 13 grams a day with no side effects at
at a cut 150 5ft 8.i just wish i knew if the mri delivery system was bs or not.
plus 50% of people on this board say its all worthless.

Did you see me post anything about aakg in this thread? Did u see me post anything saying its bull****? NO.. And if you dumb enouf to buy gnc brand **** then what you say is worthless

[gaberox]

wheres the anomosity coming from im just wondering if the delivery system is valid or not. u said u tried most other no2 products so i assumed some probably were aakg.sorry for assuming youve tried no2.as far as gnc goes.dont judge my knowledge of supps,training or anything else beacuse of where i get my ****.anyway if u notice the question marks at the end of my sentences i was asking wut u have tried so dont try to act like i put words in ur mouth.50% of people on this board do feel arginine to be worthless there was a pole done on this site i didnt just make it up.funny how ur trying to discredit my knowledge and u dont even know wut aakg is.all i did was ask u a question and u ansewered like an ass.dont think ur cool jus cause u jumped on the anti gnc bandwagon.u dont know me or what i know.ive done more than my share of homework on supps and training.

anyway back to the original subject wut im trying to get at is if arginine does
increase blood to the penis and rest of the body would this not require xtra no production thus validating the product?

[gaberox]

wut im trying to get at is if arginine does
increase blood to the penis which ive expirienced first hand every cycle of no ive taken. would this not require blood vessel dialation which if happening in the penis has to be happening in the rest of the body?wouldnt this validate the product? xtra blood flow + blood vessel dialation = nitric oxide production levels above normal?somone please elaborate with on this theory with me.

[Ikaika]

What's there to elaborate on? You're taking a product that advertises that it does x, y, and z. You notice that x, y, and z are happening. Conclusion: the product is working.

[gaberox]

its just that i hear so many different opinions on it.a lot of which are negative and say im wasting my money.but the one thing everyone seems to agree on is that it enhances erections which to me would signify a whole chain of other events i tried to peice together.just wondering if im right or not.maybe its just an individual thing.wut i want to know is does increased blood flow to the penis mean that the blood vessels are dialated and does this mean xtra no prodcution its a question not a statment im making.

have you tried any arginine products Ikaika?

[gaberox]

[QUOTE=Ikaika]No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.[quote=ikaika]

thats true but an extrodinary work ethic coupled with an extrodinary supplement can make an average person extrodinary.

[rbarbro]

No2 will definitely give you better erections and increase spermogenesis or the creation of more ejaculate. there are different forms of L-arginine and some produce nitric oxide better in the body then others AKG or alpha keta gluterate is responsible for your better pumps at the gym and for the stronger erections you've noticed. One thing I noticed with No2 and other products that have AKG stimulate the appetite and if you not looking to gain weight as in my case you have to drink water none stop while taking the product. As far as permenant strength gains go if you're consistent with your training and use No2 for a boost then go off of it as long as you maintain your training I am sure the gains would not be lost.

[PinchTheBear]

I get an erection just thinking about arginine.

[rhizome]

No2 will definitely give you better erections and increase spermogenesis or the creation of more ejaculate. there are different forms of L-arginine and some produce nitric oxide better in the body then others AKG or alpha keta gluterate is responsible for your better pumps at the gym and for the stronger erections you've noticed. One thing I noticed with No2 and other products that have AKG stimulate the appetite and if you not looking to gain weight as in my case you have to drink water none stop while taking the product. As far as permenant strength gains go if you're consistent with your training and use No2 for a boost then go off of it as long as you maintain your training I am sure the gains would not be lost.
Agreed. I prefer to use arginine Willy sticks to deliver the goods right to the junk.

[De__eB]

Agreed. I prefer to use arginine Willy sticks to deliver the goods right to the junk.

I actually prefer the arginine suppositories

[retirewithmuscl]

Very good article a few years back by t-nation showing arginine supplements are junk cause they can't work orally only by injection so no way would the erection thing be true its placebo. I had problems with my erection and I had to go online and buy viagra here without a prescription trustedtabsrx.com/?wm=10034&tr=8027 and it worked good