Pro-Hormone stacks

[cubeladd]

What do you guys think is the best out there?

[Bicep_Man]

1ad + 4ad
M1T + 4ad

[BarbellSquat]

food such as meat, fish, etc

[natrlone]

food such as meat, fish, etc

How would you stack that meat and fish stuff? Do you need pct with it?

[agony21]

food such as meat, fish, etc

Hmmm... PH advice from a 130 lb 17 YO... Any takers?

Let us know how your Double Quarter Pounder and Fish Filet cycle goes... We are all drooling in anticipation...

[BigNoca 63]

holy **** the damn things are banned now. unless u stacked up before the ban u prob aint gettin them. so suck it up train like an animal eat like a bear and you will see the exact same gains. quit tring to take the easy path!!!

[natrlone]

Hmmm... PH advice from a 130 lb 17 YO... Any takers?



I think I'll ask him how to pick up women instead. Oh, wait, his sig says he's a virgin. Nevermind.

[Ikaika]

holy **** the damn things are banned now. unless u stacked up before the ban u prob aint gettin them. so suck it up train like an animal eat like a bear and you will see the exact same gains. quit tring to take the easy path!!!

Um steroids are banned now...guess what, people still get them. Pot is illegal, people still get it.

Whether or not something is illegal has no bearing on how hard it is to get.

[cubeladd]

Um steroids are banned now...guess what, people still get them. Pot is illegal, people still get it.

Whether or not something is illegal has no bearing on how hard it is to get.

Yeah, but the question is where from? Unless you know the right people everything illegal is hard to get.

[goxmit]

Hey Barbell, kudos for what is actually a reasonably thoughtful post. Dunno why folks like to throw rocks around here.

As for the virgin thing--good goal! Take your time and make it a good one, though.

[weightshead]

PH are bad mmmkay.

seeing as there as illegal as steroids - if you really want to take illegal ergogenic aids you might as well go with the real thing. get pharmaceutical grade gear.

[SprtNvolcoM00]

PH are bad mmmkay.

seeing as there as illegal as steroids - if you really want to take illegal ergogenic aids you might as well go with the real thing. get pharmaceutical grade gear.
BEST ADVICE I'VE HEARD YET!!

[1YokedGreek]

PH are bad mmmkay.

seeing as there as illegal as steroids - if you really want to take illegal ergogenic aids you might as well go with the real thing. get pharmaceutical grade gear.

BS, PH's are not bad.

They are only illegal because of Mark McGuire. Seriously.

The guy says he's on Androstendione when he was on roids!!!!! I mean really, who gets acne that bad at age 35 from PH's?

We all know that androstendione is not the choice PH either, its one of the worst.

So all these high school kids started taking the stuff in excess and now we have no availability to these products anymore because of morons.

PH's are no where near as potent as real gear when taken as the manufacturer directs.

I have never encountered any problems.

I have some 1-T and 4AD left over that I am going to take in about 2 or 3 more months. But I only have about 3-4 weeks worht, oh well.

[weightshead]

BS, PH's are not bad.

They are only illegal because of Mark McGuire. Seriously.

The guy says he's on Androstendione when he was on roids!!!!! I mean really, who gets acne that bad at age 35 from PH's?

We all know that androstendione is not the choice PH either, its one of the worst.

So all these high school kids started taking the stuff in excess and now we have no availability to these products anymore because of morons.

PH's are no where near as potent as real gear when taken as the manufacturer directs.

I have never encountered any problems.

I have some 1-T and 4AD left over that I am going to take in about 2 or 3 more months. But I only have about 3-4 weeks worht, oh well.

bullchit you say?

I know i'd rather be taking pharma grade gear than some prohormones manufactured in some sup companies labs.

besides, if your going to jeopordise your hormone balance why not go whole hog and take test. i mean why take the precursors instead of the real thing?!? its not like any one is afraid of needles or anything...

i think you summed it up when you said, "PH are not as potent as gear". just because _you_ have never encountered any problems, doesnt mean the side effects of PH arent real, sure there not as prominent why, because again like you said PHs arent as potent.

besides gear and PH cost about the same - so give me one good reason to take PH? and if your thinking they're safer because they're not as potent then i retort: instead of going for an inferior precursor, manufactured to standards nowhere near that of a pharma; go with a low dose test cycle.

[Krzna]

Like 99% of the ph threads out there....this thread is HILARIOUS.
ph's are not potent when taken like the manufacturer says....now thatz a classic.
AAS vs ph's this is like comparing a ......forget it.
ph's deserve to be banned......

[1YokedGreek]

bullchit you say?

I know i'd rather be taking pharma grade gear than some prohormones manufactured in some sup companies labs.

besides, if your going to jeopordise your hormone balance why not go whole hog and take test. i mean why take the precursors instead of the real thing?!? its not like any one is afraid of needles or anything...

i think you summed it up when you said, "PH are not as potent as gear". just because _you_ have never encountered any problems, doesnt mean the side effects of PH arent real, sure there not as prominent why, because again like you said PHs arent as potent.

besides gear and PH cost about the same - so give me one good reason to take PH? and if your thinking they're safer because they're not as potent then i retort: instead of going for an inferior precursor, manufactured to standards nowhere near that of a pharma; go with a low dose test cycle.

Dude, go push your Steroid BS on someone else.

If you have a hookup where you get Grade A Pharma Gear than good for you.

Hell yes I would rather take a product manufactured by a company like BSN who stands behind thier product than some Roids issued by the local needle dealer.

Give me a break.

I know that some people see the side effects caused by PH, but do you know anyone that has gotten multiple staff infections from PH?

No.

Gear and PH do not cost the same.

And BTW, the latest PH and Pro-Steroids that were available we not precursors. 1-T is the real thing, and in comparison to PH 1-T was much more efficient because it does not effect the liver.

Fu*k steroids. They are far more dangerous than PH and I would never advise people to shorten thier lives for a measly 5-10 lbs.

In my area all the Steroids come from Mexico, because they are sold over the counter there.

So you think mexican Roids are the way to go instead of buying a trusted product manufactured by a trusted company who is legally bound to their product and its impact on users?

Get a grip.

Congrats on your cycles.

[Krzna]

Dude, go push your Steroid BS on someone else.

If you have a hookup where you get Grade A Pharma Gear than good for you.

Hell yes I would rather take a product manufactured by a company like BSN who stands behind thier product than some Roids issued by the local needle dealer.

Give me a break.

I know that some people see the side effects caused by PH, but do you know anyone that has gotten multiple staff infections from PH?

No.

Gear and PH do not cost the same.

And BTW, the latest PH and Pro-Steroids that were available we not precursors. 1-T is the real thing, and in comparison to PH 1-T was much more efficient because it does not effect the liver.

Fu*k steroids. They are far more dangerous than PH and I would never advise people to shorten thier lives for a measly 5-10 lbs.

In my area all the Steroids come from Mexico, because they are sold over the counter there.

So you think mexican Roids are the way to go instead of buying a trusted product manufactured by a trusted company who is legally bound to their product and its impact on users?

Get a grip.

Congrats on your cycles.

lolzzzz...this thread is getting hilarious. imho y do ppl even wanna argue about AAS vs ph's it's like putting up an infant to fight some kinda 350lb monster.

[weightshead]

Dude, go push your Steroid BS on someone else.

If you have a hookup where you get Grade A Pharma Gear than good for you.

ok



Hell yes I would rather take a product manufactured by a company like BSN who stands behind thier product than some Roids issued by the local needle dealer.

Give me a break.


they weren't the options. its was some supplement company who have been in the game for at best 10 years. Or a human grade pharmaceutical company like schering. (if you dont choose the latter then your an idiot). besides legally bound? how can they be when PH aren't even legal in the US.



I know that some people see the side effects caused by PH, but do you know anyone that has gotten multiple staff infections from PH?


thats a totally moot point. its not PH or steroid specific - but rather injection specific. besides I could argue all day long about the hepatoxicity of compounds like M1T. I know of only one person on all the boards who has gotten a staph infection, and he was injecting two times a day all year round.



Gear and PH do not cost the same.


actually the one PH cycle (6 weeks 4AD/1AD then 6OXO) i did was more expensive than the cost of a real 12 week gear cycle - at least in the UK.



And BTW, the latest PH and Pro-Steroids that were available we not precursors. 1-T is the real thing, and in comparison to PH 1-T was much more efficient because it does not effect the liver.


so you think 1-T is more 'efficient' than test? 1-T IS NOT TESTOSTERONE it is a different compound. besides you really think its more effective than an injection of test, directly into the muscle where the ester breaks down it gets released into your blood stream?!?



Fu*k steroids. They are far more dangerous than PH and I would never advise people to shorten thier lives for a measly 5-10 lbs.


Show me evidence of test shortening lifespan. you realise DOCTORS actually prescribe testosterone some people.

id be very suprised if you've got regular bloodwork whilst on PH - until you do you don't know what your doing to your body. Even if you do - you must be one of the only people taking PH who bother.



In my area all the Steroids come from Mexico, because they are sold over the counter there.

So you think mexican Roids are the way to go instead of buying a trusted product manufactured by a trusted company who is legally bound to their product and its impact on users?

Get a grip.


umm how many times do i have to say human grade pharma? mexican gear is almost entirely vetenary grade, but im sure you knew this. one last time HUMAN GRADE, not vetenary, no UG lab brew, not homebrew.



Congrats on your cycles.

good luck on yours!

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say what you will, but im not even going to bother looking at this thread again.

[1YokedGreek]

ok



they weren't the options. its was some supplement company who have been in the game for at best 10 years. Or a human grade pharmaceutical company like schering. (if you dont choose the latter then your an idiot). besides legally bound? how can they be when PH aren't even legal in the US.

I was talking about when they were legal. Obviously it doesn't matter now that they aren't even available.



thats a totally moot point. its not PH or steroid specific - but rather injection specific. besides I could argue all day long about the hepatoxicity of compounds like M1T. I know of only one person on all the boards who has gotten a staph infection, and he was injecting two times a day all year round.

Yes it is injection specific, and it happens to roid injectors all the time.




actually the one PH cycle (6 weeks 4AD/1AD then 6OXO) i did was more expensive than the cost of a real 12 week gear cycle - at least in the UK.

In the UK, and you don't need estrogen inhibitors and all that for PH. It just tallies the cost up.




so you think 1-T is more 'efficient' than test? 1-T IS NOT TESTOSTERONE it is a different compound. besides you really think its more effective than an injection of test, directly into the muscle where the ester breaks down it gets released into your blood stream?!?

Never said 1-T was more efficient, I just said it was not a precursor and that it is far more effective than precursors.



Show me evidence of test shortening lifespan. you realise DOCTORS actually prescribe testosterone some people.

Lyle Alzado. Yes, I know he was an idiot, but don't say steroids can't kill you. Doctors prescribe steroids for many reasons, one of the more popular is red blood cell problems.


id be very suprised if you've got regular bloodwork whilst on PH - until you do you don't know what your doing to your body. Even if you do - you must be one of the only people taking PH who bother.
What?



umm how many times do i have to say human grade pharma? mexican gear is almost entirely vetenary grade, but im sure you knew this. one last time HUMAN GRADE, not vetenary, no UG lab brew, not homebrew.

Go ahead and tell me how to get this pharma around here. THIS IS THE USA, not europe. Everyone and thier mom roids in europe.



good luck on yours!

Good luck on what? Being 2 inches shorter than you and weighing the same amount without being a roid monkey?

What cycles?




say what you will, but im not even going to bother looking at this thread again.

Good, because all you are doing is trying to influence people to do roids.

Some people do NOT want to go all the way out and do a cycle, because there ARE side effects to be had, and they are far more dangerous than PH and 1-T. You cannot say they are not.

All I ever hear from you guys that cycle is that anyone who has a problem is doing wrong. BS. Even people who take prescriptions have problems.

I am also over this thread. But you should really stop pushing this AAS on people, you are starting to sound like a Mormon.

[weightshead]

despite i said i wouldnt write here again:

regardless of my disagreements with yoke i'd just like to point out i was saying steroids are the lesser of two evils.

i wouldn't advise anyone to take steroids or their precursors - i was merely stating in my personal opinion pharma grade steroids are the safer option of the two for anyone who is determined to take hormones/hormonal precursors. either way neither are without risk - certainly something under 21s should not even be considering.

good luck.

[1YokedGreek]

despite i said i wouldnt write here again:

regardless of my disagreements with yoke i'd just like to point out i was saying steroids are the lesser of two evils.

i wouldn't advise anyone to take steroids or their precursors - i was merely stating in my personal opinion pharma grade steroids are the safer option of the two for anyone who is determined to take hormones/hormonal precursors. either way neither are without risk - certainly something under 21s should not even be considering.

good luck.

Hey man, its cool to have disagreements, I'm not mad at you, I just didn't want you pushing for people to take roids.

If your OPINION is that roids are safer than PH, then that is your Opinion, I have my own.

I just know that many people who have problems with PH experience them because they are abusing the dosage.

I also have found that with normal dosages of roids, people have had problems and much more side effects than PH.

That is my experience, yours may differ.