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dutchM
08-18-2007, 02:09 PM
Hey guys. I'm new to these forums and to body building. I'm 5"10 and 190 pounds and not really in shape at all. But I'm beginning my journey today.

Anyway, this Weider 16.6ST machine is what I have to work with.

http://www.trainersecrets.com/home_gym/weider/weider_166_ST.htm

What I am wondering is if this machine will get me the results I want on its own. I don't want to be ****ing gigantic muscle man or anything. I just want to be comfortable without my shirt on you know. Have some decent abs.

So... anyone have personal experience with this? Would this paired with some cardio be enough for what I want to accomplish?

KMan81
08-18-2007, 02:44 PM
Welcome! The machine is a decent starting point. I had a similar one many moons ago. If you can though get some freeweights. The gains really do come faster with a proper freeweight workout. You can use the machine to help supplament them (but again if you are just starting out, the machine should cover you for a while).

Also, be sure to check out the nutrition forum. All that effort could be stifled if you don't get your diet down correctly.

need2eat
08-18-2007, 03:47 PM
I just want to be comfortable without my shirt on you know. Have some decent abs.





You need to focus 90% of your attention on diet/nutrition, if all your really after is visible abs.

That machine would work fine if tone is all your really after, as you can only get as strong as the resistance will allow.

So yes, that machine should assist you just fine in getting you were you wanna be.

Blue Blazer
08-18-2007, 04:10 PM
Welcome to the BB forums dutchM, that machine looks pretty good...I own a wedier gym myself but at the time I do not use it at all...I am doing a workout that involves all compound freeweight exercises...

I see that your looking to lose weight and tone up...Like the guys said 90 percent of transforming yourself is your Nutrition...Read some articles, go in the nutrition section to ask questions after searching a bit and you will be fine

As for the machine, I cannot say it's a waste nor can I say it's a good investment...freeweights are usally the key to working out, but I can see your looking to lose weight and tone up so cardio and lighter exercises will suit your program best...so a machine would probobly do the trick

But I would suggest you look into a FID bench and 2 dumbbell handles with some weights...something not too expensive to accompany your gym...just a though

Good luck man, I wish you the best...if you have any questions, p/m me or ask anyone in this section or in this forum...most of the guys here know alot more than I do, JM

dutchM
08-19-2007, 08:38 AM
Thanks for the awesome replies guys. Wow, I didn't know that at all. So if all I did was change my diet/nutrition, I would start losing weight?

Sounds easy enough. I bet cardio/light lifting would speed up that process a lot.

The only thing I'm worried about is my meal plan. It's pretty much non-existent. I'm a college kid so usually I just grab whatever and go.

But yesterday I bought some nuts, oats, carrot sticks, and some salad. So I suppose I am on my way.