Creatine and Caffeine

[THESHAWNRAYWAY]

Ive read that Caffeine nullifies the affects of creatine, therefore Im trying to give up products containing Caffeine (i.e the 2-3 cups of coffee I consume daily). What im concerned about is the loss of energy my body is going to experiance until it adjusts, in which will no doubt affect my workouts for the first little bit. Basically im just wondering what I can replace caffeine with as an alternative source of energy so that my energy level doesnt completely crash.

[abi_yo_shiva]

Ive read that Caffeine nullifies the affects of creatine, therefore Im trying to give up products containing Caffeine (i.e the 2-3 cups of coffee I consume daily). What im concerned about is the loss of energy my body is going to experiance until it adjusts, in which will no doubt affect my workouts for the first little bit. Basically im just wondering what I can replace caffeine with as an alternative source of energy so that my energy level doesnt completely crash.

well, i didnt do any reserch on that and dont have any scientific info to back it up but i usually have 2 or 3 cufs of coffee per day and now im on CEE and didnt see that caffine might nullify my CEE. i feel im getting stronger and for sure im getting bigger.

please, if somebody can back it up with some scientific info!! thanks

[PowerSwede]

Ive read that Caffeine nullifies the affects of creatine, therefore Im trying to give up products containing Caffeine (i.e the 2-3 cups of coffee I consume daily). What im concerned about is the loss of energy my body is going to experiance until it adjusts, in which will no doubt affect my workouts for the first little bit. Basically im just wondering what I can replace caffeine with as an alternative source of energy so that my energy level doesnt completely crash.

You will have more energy for your workouts since caffeine prolongs the recovery time between repetitions.

Don't drink coffee before workouts, don't drink coffee around the same time that you ingest your creatine (because of the acidic environment that coffee creates) and you will avoid the negative effects of caffeine.

On the days you rest you can drink as much coffee as you want.

[kendog]

Screw that. *Goes to drink several cups of black coffee pre workout.

[Sick]

I'll tell you what guys, i was real tired yesterday so I consumed some coffee before my workout and then took some cee. My strength was the worse ever that workout.

[kendog]

Just got back from workout and it was fine.

[PowerSwede]

My post from another thread:

Very nice post, i am going to research this further to see if i can find any studies using a lower dosage of caffeine.

400mg isn't very much though, it's less than four cups of drip brewed coffee, most people who drink coffe don't drink it in cups, they drink it in mugs so it's 1.5-2 servings, not four.

An important thing to remember is that the latter study shows that caffeine negates the effect of decreased recovery time that is one of creatines benefits, whether it affects recovery time between sets or total muscle recovery time is not known though, we know that creatine decreases both recovery time between repetitions, sets and total muscle recovery time and we know that caffeine increases recovery time between repetitions. One could theorize that it would also interfere with total muscle recovery time but it would seem unlikely as the reason for the increase has to do with caffeines effect on AD receptors.

One amusing thing though, the creatine used in the latter study was not Creatamax, it was "Creatine Fuel, Twin Laboratories, New York, NY".

If anyone wants to dig deeper into these studies, here are the links (from Journal of Applied Physiology):

http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/reprint/80/2/452 [pdf]

http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/reprint/92/2/513 [pdf]

[jsVR-4]

Maybe try something like Neurostim (without C) to use while you adapt?


It should help you stay focused like caffeine.


Just a thought.

[THESHAWNRAYWAY]

Thanks for the replies everyone, they are greatly appreciated.

[TigerJam]

You can have caffeine, but don't take it the same time as your creatine. When loading, eliminate it completely.