Diesel Ready4War and Diesel Fuel Log [Archive]

dr8sides

02-21-2005, 01:45 PM

I am an fairly active guy who is coming back from several injuries (incl my left knee being recronstructed). I am an avid fan and participant of mma and bjj, and hope to compete again soon. Sadly, during my recouperation time, i put on a little extra weight because I was moslty inactive. Now I have been cleared by the docs to resume, so it is time to get back in to shape. After looking around, I decided that I will be using R4W as a preworkout energizer and DF as a thermo. I am 23, never taken any ph/ps, and have been working out for just over 4 years. I am 6'5" and currently 218 (19% BF). I plan to drop down to about 10% BF. I eat fairly clean, and will be following this diet.

3600 total calories (6 meals, 600 cals each)
60 grams of fat (15%)
225 grams of protien (25%)
540 grams of carbs (60%)

If anyone thinks that this is high, i have used a similar diet before to drpo weight for tournies. I need the extra cabs/calories for energy for my mma/bjj training.

I will lift 6 days a week, on a double split (hitting everything 2xs a week), and doing cardio 6 days a week ( will vary from treadmill, outdoor running, hills, etc.) each time for an hour. Also I have mma/bjj 4 nights a week, and I play basketball on the weekends.

As far as other supps, I take fish oil, HP multi, and use optimum,s 100% whey.
I just got the DF and R4W today, so i will begin using them tomorrow.

I am really excited as I have heard many good things about diesel.

Bajarock3

02-21-2005, 02:10 PM

You are tall, 6'5". Try to get more calories and protein in, and Good Luck

dr8sides

02-21-2005, 03:23 PM

I will keep the calories at 3600 for as long as possible. But it is inevitible that i will be eating more than as my metabolism revs up and i get into longer sparring sessions. Before i got hurt i was eating approx 6200 cals a day to maintain weight (215, 9% BF). I will stay down to 3600 for bare minimum 3 weeks

dr8sides

02-22-2005, 10:59 AM

dr8sides

02-22-2005, 11:43 AM

Sorry
I was expecting to feel and immediate rush because the directions were o take it 10-20 mins preworkout, but i did. But 20 mins into my workout i had a surge of energy.It was like all of the lights got brighter and and my focus improved. Form that point on, my energy levels were constant and I didnt want to leave the gym. I am hesitant to attribute this to the R4W. If this continues, then i will say it is the R4W, if not then I will say that this 1st boost is a combination of me being so excited to get back into the gym as well as usung a new product. I say this because I have used many thermos and preworkout boosters before and they had little effect unless i megasized my dosage. Any way, good first day.

TUESDAY CHEST/BACK

flatbench (warmup): 135 x 20, x 20, x 20
incline benchpress(barbell): 135 x 9, x9 x8
decline benchpress(barbell): 185 x7, x7, x6
incline flye: 55's x8, x8, x8
flat flye: 45 x9, x9, x8

assited pullups(warmup): @ 165lbs x12, x10, x11, x11
seated pully rows: 130 x9, x10, x9
bent-over bb rows: 135 x12, 155 x 10, x8 x8
t bar rows: 135 x10, x10, x10
lat pull downs: 150 x8, x9, x8
hyperextensions: 20, 20 , 20

Good work out, nice sweat.

I took 1 DF before next meal. Felt REALLY amped.No jitters, no nerverousness, just full of energy.

dr8sides

02-22-2005, 04:01 PM

Unfortunately, I had to stay late at school, so I was unable to make it to mma. But I still did my cardio, 60 mins on a treadmill 6.9 mph. Also to replace my missed mma, I made it in time for a yoga class at my gym, and then I some wrestling 20 second drills (i.e. pushups, bridges, handsprings, sprawls, etc) along with plyometrics (box jumps 3 sets, 20 jumps, and jump squats 3 sets, 20 jumps). I know that this is no substitute for a real mma workout, but it was all I could get in today.
Took 2nd DF midday as per label, felt energetic all afternoon. Didnt notice any crash from either R4W or DF, but I have an "end of day" crash everyday anyway. As soon as I close my eyes I am asleep, no waiting. I attribute this to long work hours, combined with long school hours, and the gym/training on top of it made instant sleep a necessity.
Also fear not, I am not like some of the guys on hear who start thier logs strong, and within a week, the have the flu, or some "serious" injury that they absolutely cannot train with (I broke my ankle wrestling, and stillmanaged to hit the gym and do full squats for the length of my recovery, I missed 1 day). Or the guys who dont post for 2-3 or more days and had to take some time off for "soreness". Here is a newsflash, if this was easy, then everyone would be huge and ripped, but it aint. Only those who can push through those minor obstacles will get the results.So to all the guys on hear that are real and truthful, props to you, you know what it takes; and to those phonies who lie about thier lifts, thier size, thier routine, so sorry that you cant be what I am, but I worked for it. Stop lying to us and yourself, stop posting fake results and go and take a year, yes a year, and do some serious lifting, and then come back and talk.
So expect to see 2 posts a day, 1 am 1 pm, every day.

Todays Calorie Intake = 3535
Fat grams = 53.3 (13.6%)
Carbs = 530 (60%)
Sugars = 208 (40% of carbs, high from sugars in milk)
Protien = 233.5 (26.4%)

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CHUCK DIESEL

02-23-2005, 10:59 AM

Following the instructions on the container, I began mye diesel experience with 1/2 of R4W. I immediately noticed something, the horrid taste. Actually it wasnt the taste that was so bad, it was the after taste. I gagged and threw up in my mouth3 times. Maybe others dont think that this is so bad, but i think it was terrible. I will definitely try mixing it with juice

Mix each container of ready4war with 6 packages of kool-aid, or take each serving with a little dry drink mix or some are using orange juice. The after taste is pretty bad, its like smashing up b-vitamins and drinking them.

Iron Draggin

02-23-2005, 12:34 PM

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I've been seriously considering R4W for awhile. Your size (and need for larger dosing) looks pretty close to mine. Besides I'm just starting cutting, so it would be nice to know how this works for you while in a caloric deficit.

dr8sides

02-23-2005, 01:21 PM

Today I decided to mix R4W with some juice to numb the aftertaste. I had 1/2 scoop (and will use 1/2 scoop for the 1st week, and go up to a full scoop from week 2 on out). I mixed it with some apple juice. The result: apple juice. I could taste any of the aftertaste that I had noticed the day before (does anyone have any experience with this, i would like to mix with something less sugary, while still losing after taste). Ok, today was the real deal. When I woke up I was kind of sluggish (prolly due to this being my 1st week back), but I gave myself 10 extra mins before I went to the gym (so I drank it 30 mins before work out as opposed to the suggested 10-20), and when I walked into the gym, I was full of energy. I was able to go through my workout with little rest time between sets, all while keeping really getting a good solid workout and not losing form. And although when I was done, my muscles agreed that I was done, I was still ready to continue lifting. Again I feel that this is too early to give all of the credit to the R4W, but what I credit it with was the focus that I was ableto maintain in the gym. Again everything seemed to be vivid and more in focus (if that makes sense). If these results keep up then I will become a believer. Oh and I see that chuck is reading, thanks. Any advice, questions, comments, much appreciated!!

WEDENSDAY Shoulders/Arms
(warm up) dumbbellmilitary presses: 35's x20, x 20, x20
seated rear laterals: 20's x 10, x11, x9
seated laterals: 25's x9, x9, x8
power cleans: 135 x9, x8, x8
arnold press: 55's x 10, x10, x9
upright rows: 105 x8, x9, x8
shrugs(dumbells): 90's x9, x8,x8

dips(body weight): 25, 20, 20, 18
cable press downs: 80 x8, x9, x7
french press: 70 x8, x8, x6
kickbacks: 20 x8, x7, x9

curls(barbell): 45 x20, x20, x27
preacher curls: 75 x8, x7, x8
seated incline alt. dumbbell curls: 25's x9,x9, x10
cable curls(drop set, 1 plate at a time): Starting weight 100 x8 then drop

wrist curls: 45 x25, x25, x25
reverse wrist curls: 55 x20, x20, x20

Took 1 DF before next meal; ie wake(4am) eat, R4W, lift(5am), eat(7am), DF eat(10am). Felt great. No jitters, but definitely feel like I have a ton more energy, still too soon to give all props to DF. I cant wait to see how it works in weeks 3 and 4 when the dosage gets up.

NOTE: I will update weight and BF% every 7 days.

Thanks all who read.

Pugilist

02-23-2005, 04:53 PM

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I bought the 2 bottle combo of DF, and I have been taking it for a week, so far I really like it. I look forward to the rest of your log, and hope that you meet your goals. Good luck

dr8sides

02-23-2005, 06:14 PM

Training tonite was great. It was my first night back to the "gym". My conditioning is so bad, prolly because I havent done any kind of conditioing work. I took the 2nd DF before lunch, and I stayed amped most of the afternoon. I really cant wait to start on the full dosage to see the effects,, but I think that the dosing recommandations are great because they go hand in hand with my return to physical activity. As my metobolism gets going due to the increase in workload, the amount of DF will increase also. I think that this will be perfect. Ok, so while my return to my team wsa not earthshattering, it felt great to be in there sweating and training. Again I was full of energy, it was simply a matter of my body not responding due to the time off, but it is on its way back, and the fatigue was easy enough to push myself through. I made it through all of the drills (barely) and did all of the conditioning (ie jump rope, boxing circut, shark bait take down drills, ect), but I was feeling pretty gassed. But not to miss out on the fun, I also participated in a few rolls tonite (for those who do not know, rolling is a term used for a type of sparring, usually limited to just wrestling and ju jitsu, for a specified amt of time or taps (submissions); it can be done slowly to work on technique or fast and full force to simulate ring time). Wow. I didnt realize that being out of the game for a short time had diminished my skills so greatly (not mention the guys on my team are all incredible and have been putting lots of time and work, WAY TO GO ,ALL GOLDS, team FF rocks). I was/am extremely tired. I am also looking forward to taking a DF PM for a late energy boost. So while rolling, I stupidly didnt potect my ankle, and a fish managed to get me in an attempted achilles lock. Being a fish, he saw something, and not realizing that we were SPARRING, locked on it as hard as he could. Luckily, he really didnt know what he was doing and had it up around my calf, and pulled as hard as he could. It will be sore in the mornin, I guaruntee, but tomorrow is leg day, and we aint got time to cry over soreness.

TODAY'S CALORIE INTAKE
3317 calories
63.3 grams of fat (high from peanut butter)(16%)
516 grams of carbs (60%)
209 grams of protein (24%)

You may notice that I am about 300 cals short of my anticipated diet. In school someone sat on my bananas, robbing me of 1/2 of a meal. I didnt have time to run to the caf. to get something else, and I didnt want to add a few extra calories to may last 2 meals. So I will just go a little light today, but the average will remain 3600.

Thanks for reading.
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Striation

02-23-2005, 07:22 PM

Great log man! You seem very dedicated and disciplined. Keep it up!

dr8sides

02-24-2005, 11:33 AM

Today, I have no work and no school, so I could sleep in. Woke at 630 and took DF before breakfast. My body hurts from top to bottom, I am sore and tight all over; I love this feeling, and you can only get this if you are involved in some contact sport. Today was the day that I have been both looking forward to and dreading, leg day. The only real leg workout that I have had in the past 6 months has been at physical therapy; and as you know they only want you to be functional and they dont train for strength. I had some concerns about how my knee would hold up, but you cant fight/train scared, so I took it to the gym. I mixed the R4W with grape juice today, and again I could not taste the product; which, believe me, is a plus. I knew that I would haev to take my time, as I would prolly have the greatest strength loss in my legs from the time off, plus the running and mma made me a little sore (oh and my right calf is sooooooo tight, thanks fish). I was getting my game fae on, and (maybe just a mental thing) I really felt like I was going to have a great workout, that I was "ready for war", lol.

THURSDAY LEGS
leg extensions(warm up): 90 x25, x20, x20
leg press: 270 x20, 360 x 12, x12, x12
******bitch alert**********
squats: 135 x10, 225 x10, x10, x8
hack squats: 140 x 12, x14, x13, x15
lunges (dumbbells): 55's x10, x10, x13

lying leg curls: 90 x 20, 105 x12, x12, x12
seated leg curls: 120 x12, x13, x14, x14
straight leg deadlifts: 135 x12, x12, x13, x13

seated calf raises: 90 x30, x30, x30
horizontial calf extensions: 180 x30, x27, x30
calf extensions on leg press mach: 180 x 25, x26, x25

Ok, on squats I was feeling really good. Before I was injured, I could squat 365 for reps (8 is my PR), and I always though that I had strong legs and valued my leg strength in wrestling, ju-jitsu, and muay thai. Today, I warmed with 135. Fine, all good. Moved to 225; ok, a little shaky, but ok. I tried to go 285, new knee said no. I know that I am an advocate of "playing through the pain", but only if you arent risking a super serious injury. I think that this is a factor of loss of strength due to muscle atrophy, and the strength will come back, but time is needed. So I stayed at 225 for all of my sets. I think that leg power will be the slowest to return bc of the severity of the injury that I sustained and the fact that I was almost inactive for so long.

Ok, besides that, I feel great. Wide awake, pumped, and ready to be in the gym all day, but sore as hell. My legs are jello right now. I can honestly say that the DF and the R4W in combination are really having an affect on my workouts. I am usually a freak, never missing a day and loving a good sweat, but now I am counting the minutes between workouts, and I am just so ready to run, jump, lift, etc. I feel like I need to be running or something, even after I am "done" my workout, I dont want to leave. On the bad side, I am incredibly thirsty. Yesterday i drank almost 2 gallons of water, plus lots of milk. And I am sweating like no-one's business. Still, so far so good. Oh, here on the east coast it is snowing like a mutha, so the fight factory is closed tonite (no mma), but I will go to the gym and do some cardio and conditioning tonite.

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Thanks for reading.

Sixpack

02-24-2005, 12:11 PM

Great log bro thats a hell of a leg workout, u hitting each bodypart 1x per week.Make sure u are taking in enough calories.
J

dr8sides

02-24-2005, 04:42 PM

Well as I said earlier, the fight factory is closed due to the snow, so no mma. I figured that I would go to the gym instead and run, jump, etc. and maybe hit the bags a little bc it is only 5 miles from my house. Well they are f***** closed too. I have a medicine ball, a roman chair, and plenty of room to stretch and do some sprawls and such. I guess this is a good thing because my legs are just dead, but I have the urge to do something. Took the 2nd DF before my midday meal, and I am still feeling good. Still no crashes, shakes, or jitters; but will have to wait and see if any of these effects happen on the full dose (6caps/day for weight loss, no more than 7caps/day for energy for someone my weight), (see bottle for dosing schedule).

CALORIE INTAKE
3605 calories
591 grams of carbs (62%)
58 grams of fat (14%)
227 grams of protein (24%)

If anyone, checks my math above you will see that it doesnt add up. That is bc my carbs also include my fiber, which doesnt count towards my calorie total. If anyone has a problem with this or would like me to list the fiber, I will, just let me know.
Also I am hitting each part 2xs a week. My split is M-Sat, 3 workouts, as seen above, with an a and b version of each. This is the program that my coach and I developed last year and I had good results with it. My body has always approved of a large workload, and has fatigue has really never been a problem. If I was training for mass, then I would change it, but now that isnt my goal. I dont consider this high volume at all as each large body part gets about 12 sets/workout (24 a week) and smaller groups get 9 sets/workout (18 a week). As for the volume of cardio, I have always had a problem losing weight. My body never wants to lose it. I have exprimented with several dieting plans and cardio routines, and I have found that I get the best results from either a very controlled lowcarb diet, or a high volume cardio routine. Whenever I have used the low carb option (tried 4 different times/versions) I drasctically cut back on my cardio volume, but during training sessions and lifting, I was constantly light headed, worn out, and weak. I did get quite shredded on that diet, but the nutritional content didnt provide me with enough energy to be succesful in my training. Also it is better to be about 9-13% than a totally ripped sub 8% because in a tourney you may have to wrestle 4+ opponents and I have found that at low body fat levels, I dont have the energy to last in the later rounds. The same can be said about kickboxing/boxing/mma, if you have to go the full number of rounds, that little bit (stress little, 16%+ will hurt more than it could ever help) of fat can help with later round energy. So the high volume cardio works best for me. I have never had a problem getting the work in, or laying down the miles, and I am hoping that the R4W and DF will speed up the process.
This is what works for me. I do not suggest that anyone use my workout as gospel for weight loss, everyone is different, and I have found (through much trial and error along with lots of nutritional tweaking along the way) that is best for me. Also, I am not a bodybuilder, and make no claims to be. I am a student first and amatuer athelete second. I fight/wrestle/train for fun, and my workouts have been designed to help me meet my goals within my sport. If I ever wanted to just gain mass, I would def come here and ask for help and do my homework before I began. The same would be true if I was looking to cut weight for any other kind of competition, as I only know what works for me in my sport.
Thank you all who read, any feedback (positive or negative) is welcome.
Sorry if I am long winded, just want to be as thorough as possible. And it is my first log on here and I dont want to make a bad impression. lol.
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avian

02-24-2005, 07:11 PM

nice log, im very interested

gl

dr8sides

02-25-2005, 02:58 PM

This morniing I felt awful. My bdoy not only ached nearly everywhere, but I was very very sore and my legs were stiff. I looked at my alarm clock, (401 am) and then outside at the snow that fell all night. I didnt want to move. But my goals wont get done by themselves (and this log is also a great newfound motivator). After eating i was still really sluggish, and tired and I was comtemplating staying in bed until i had to leave for school. I mixed R4W with some grape juice, got dressed and made it to the gym (the main roads were great, thanks PENNDOT). By the time I walked in the door, I was w-i-d-e awake and raring to do some damage. It might be safe to say that this is the effect of the R4W. I felt like I was in the zone. Before my lifting session, I wanted to get some blood flowing and stretch a little, so that I wouldnt be soo stiff in my lifts (and as I walked through the gym); 20 mins on the treadmill @6.5 mph.

FRIDAY BACK/CHEST

assited pullups(warmup): 160lbs x15, x15, x10, x14
barbell rows: 135 x12, 155 x11, x 8, x9
closegrip pulldowns: 160 x12, x12, x9
t bar rows: 135 x10, 160 x7, x8
deadlifts: 225 x12, 275 x 9, x8
assited pullups:190lbs x9, x9, x7

flat benchpress(barbell, warmup): 135 x20, x20,x20
incline press (dumbbells): 65's x9, x8, x8
flat press (dumbells): 80's x7, x7, x8
incline flye: 55's x8, x9, x8
flat flye: 45's x8, x8, x8
pullovers: 60 x10, x10, x11

Workout was amazing! I feel so good, but my body is beat. Also still EXTREMELY thirsty. I do not know if this is function of the DF, the R4W, both, or something else? I am drinking lots of water (prolly 2 gals today).
Things are going great and I think that I am really starting to get a preworkout boost from the R4W.

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Thanks for reading, all of the postive support is much appreaciated

dr8sides

02-25-2005, 09:34 PM

Took DF before midday meal. Cardio tonite was a bear. My legs were so sore and tired, that I barely made it, treadmill 45 mins avg speed 6.7 mph. After that I did a mini conditioning circut; jump rope 15 mins, wind sprints 10 mins (walk back to start and sprint again), jump rope 10 mins, situps, sprawls. Sorry that this so late, when I got home from the gym, I ate and feel asleep on the couch before I showered or anything. I am tired, luckily nowork or school tomorrow, just my battles at the gym, and some yoga.

CALORIE INTAKE
3578 calories
554 grams of carbs (59%)
56 grams of fat (14%)
239 grams of protein (27%)

Thinking that I may be experiencing a slight "boost" or push from the DF, but not sure.

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dr8sides

02-26-2005, 11:38 AM

Another painfull wake up. Luckily, there is no work today, so I can relax and lift a little later in the morning. Also, I can hit a yoga class today (dont laugh yoga can be challenging, and does wonders for my flexibility). Took DF before breakfast, and took R4W before I let for the gym. My paln today was to lift right after yoga. I had to give my sister a lift to work, and I got tied up in traffic, so I had an extra 15 mins between R4W and the gym. As I said earlier in the week, the recommended time is 10-20 mins prior to workout, but I didnt notice it until about 20-30 mins after I drank it, so I was drinking about 30 mins before my workout. Today, with the additional time from being stuck in traffic, it was approx. 40 mins between consumption and gym. WOW. It hit me in the car, just like a wave of energy. I hit yoga first, it was a 55 minute class, and it really helped loosen up my legs (which are incredibly sore and tight), as well as warm me up. Then it was time to lift.

SATURDAY SHOULDERS/ARMS

dumbbell military press(warmup): 35's x20, x20, x20
seated rear lateral raises: 25's x9, x8, x8
seated lateral raises: 25's x9, x8, x8
arnold presses: 50's x9, x8, x9
upright row (narrow grip): 115 x9, x8 (wide grip) 95 x8, x8
behind the back barbell shrugs: 185 x10, x10 x8

dips: (bodyweight) 20, 20, 19, 18
close grip benchpress: 135 x9, 145 x8, x7
skull crushers: 70 x6, 70 x8, 70 x8
rope presses: 40 x8, x9, x8

barbell curls: 45 x20, x20, x20
seated alternating curls: (drop set, 30's, 25's, 20's) x8,7,9; x7,8,6; x8,6,6
zottman curls: 25's x8, x8, x8
barbell curls: 65 x10, 70 x7, x8

wrist curls: 45 x25, x25, x25, x25

This was the best workout that I have had thus far. If my review of the combination of these tow products was based solely on this day, I would give a resounding 2 thumbs up. I know that it is premature for a yes or no, but to day was incredible. Again, the prospect of full dosing has me really excited, but that is a few weeks off. My workouts generally take me about 55 mins, but today that time was cut down to just over 45 mins (47 by best approx), very little rest time between sets; just a very intense focused feeling. Ok, now for some negatives. I had mentioned that I was incredibly thirsty for the last few days; today I found out why my body wanted all of that water. I was sweating like a pig. Normally I sweat when I lift, but today it was like I was doing some cardio or conditioning work, my clothes were totally soaked through. Not pretty, but it doesnt bother me, just had to make sure that I cleaned up all the puddles and sweat off of the benches and such. Also, i expected at some point to feel a little sick, or catch a cold (very typical when cutting, esp. when you are beating up your body as it drastically weakens your immune system) but I didnt expect it so soon. I don not know is the diesel products accelerated this process or not, but as it is just a little sore throat I am not worried. Also, I have never had any kind of joint pain or joint soreness (except occasionally from some ju jitsu holds done a little hard),but my joints are a little achy. Does anyone know what I can do/take to alleviate this? Otherwise, 5 days in I feel really good.

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Flexxer

02-27-2005, 04:58 AM

Do you take any glucosomine for your joints? It probably would be a good idea if you did with your sport and all. Keep up the good work bro.

Sixpack

02-27-2005, 05:15 AM

Questions whats your typical diet look like? Damn u do alot of sets etc. I give you credit your workouts are intense. You do cardio everyday?You said u take in 3600 cals but like specifics on the types of foods etc

dr8sides

02-27-2005, 06:54 AM

Sorry that I didnt post this last night, but there was a problem with my modem. My cardio last night was a joke. I ended up just doing some stair master for 35 mins at moderate intensity and then I just walkedon the treadmill for another 30 mins, my legs were still pretty sore. Again there was lots of sweat. It wasnt what I wanted to do, but it was something. On sunday, I dont lift, but I will be taking a yoga class and hopefully playing some basketball( that will cover my cardio), so there will only be 1 post on sunday's workouts.
As for my diet, yes about 3600 cal,as I have listed above. As for food goes, I try to eat as "clean" as I can. I have program that I enter all of foods into and it tracks all of my micro and macro nutrients. and example of a typical days worth of food:

CALORIES 3538
57 grams of fat (14%)
228 grams of protein (24%)
569 grams of carbs (62%)

2 servings of oatmeal
40 ozs of skim milk
2 servings of optimum 100% whey choc
4 slices of whole wheat bread
2 tablesp of chunky peanut butter
4 cups of green giant vegetables (broccoli, carrots, califlower, cheese)
12 cups of fresh broccoli stalks (raw, usually wet this a little and nuke for 30 secs and mix with the green giant)
6 ozs chicken breast,roasted
2 bananas
2 servings baked doritos
1 package of frozen corn (i love corn)
close to 2 gallons of water (approx 220 ozs)
and right now I am using grape juice with the R4W, and I drink a glass right after I lift, so 3 servings of welchs grape (after I am done with this bottle of grapejuice, i am going to get something else, I dont like all of the sugar, I like to drink more milk).
R4W and DF
Multi and Fish oil

Also as I stated above, after week 2 or 3, I am slowly going to start increasing the cals because as my body burns off the fat, and I can do the cardio harder and longer, I am going to need more fuel, and I dont want it to be my muscle. Would you like me to post what I eat everyday, If so I can. The above is what I ate on saturday, so that is a good idea of what I eat on a daily basis. I do not eat junk food (except some baked chips and sometimes some jelly with my peanut butter, not now bc of all of the sugar in the grape juice), and i try to avoid white breads as much as possible.
I try my best to do cardio everyday. I cannot promise that every single day I will do cardio/condtioning, but usually 6 days a week.
I hope that I answered all of your questions six.
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Sixpack

02-27-2005, 08:42 AM

Just to comment I would try upping your fat intake etc. Have some fish oil or olive oil to your diet so at least 20% cals are from fat. With the amount of activity you do the carbs are fine maybe a little high but I think u need them.Just trying to help ya out bro, tuna is cheap, eggs and egg whites etc also
Best of luck

dr8sides

02-27-2005, 09:53 AM

Six I really appreciate your input, and i have been reading your posts for a long, great work bro. Do you really think that a little more fat will help me lost weight faster? and i do take fish oil, I listedit above

Thanks

Sixpack

02-27-2005, 09:58 AM

Fat is not evil and yes I think it will help out, to be honest if u are looking to burn fat I would lower your carb intake a bit and up your fats. Shoot for at least 20%. Are you loosing now?

Six I really appreciate your input, and i have been reading your posts for a long, great work bro. Do you really think that a little more fat will help me lost weight faster? and i do take fish oil, I listedit above

Thanks

dr8sides

02-28-2005, 09:51 AM

Today was an off lift day, so I had only cardio to do. I did 3 minute intervals on the treadmill at 8 mph incline 4 ( ie 1 min walk at 4mph, 3 mins as above) for a total of 45 mins (15 intervals). Then the stair master on level 15 for 30 mins, followed by 20 mins of jump rope. Pretty tired. Six, I will try uping the fat a little and see how it pans out, thanks for the advice.Took r4w before my cardio session, and I sweated a gross amout (more than I think that I ever have).

Questions?
Comments?
Thanks for reading.

dr8sides

03-01-2005, 02:49 PM

Today I started the full dose of R4W. Wow. Totally insane. I cannot describe the feeling. I almost ran through my workout. I also stepped up to the next dosing level on DF.
Today weight: 216
BF%: 17.5

So far so good.

TUESDAY CHEST/BACK

flatbench (warmup): 135 x20, x20, x20
incline benchpress: 145 x8, x8, x9
decline benchpress: 185 x7, x8, x8
incline flye: 55's x8, x8, x7
flat flye: 50's x8, x7, x7

assited pullups(warmup): @ 165lbs x12, x10, x11, x11
seated pully rows: 130 x8, x9, x9
bent-over bb rows:155 x 10, x8 x9
t bar rows: 160 x8, x9, x7
lat pull downs: 150 x8, x7, x8
hyperextensions: 20, 20, 20, 20

dr8sides

03-01-2005, 07:11 PM

Cardio tonite was great. Slight pain in left knee, so I used the elip. 45 mins at level 6, 85 rpm (800 cals). Then stair master for 30 mins (550 cals), these cals are approxs.
I also decided to take six's advice and increase my fat a little
calorie intake 3518
grams of fat: 70 (18%)
grams of protein: 232 (27%)
grams of carbs: 482(55%)

Also I bought some sugar free kool aid to mix with the r4w, bad idea. Without the strong sugar taste, the flavor of the R4w is overwhelming. I will continue my search for a low sugar drink to mix with this. Today, i could def feel the effects of the increased dosage.
If this energy boost keeps up, i might be doing cardio all night. But it does make me sweat like a beast though.

Sixpack

03-01-2005, 07:19 PM

Bro u sure u ain't overtraining? damn over 45min cardio is too much IMO man, I am glad u upped your fat but hell too much cardio is not a good think either big man. I am just warning ya cause I have overtrainined before so i know how much muscle u can actually loose on it. Be carefull man. Best of luck

Cardio tonite was great. Slight pain in left knee, so I used the elip. 45 mins at level 6, 85 rpm (800 cals). Then stair master for 30 mins (550 cals), these cals are approxs.
I also decided to take six's advice and increase my fat a little
calorie intake 3518
grams of fat: 70 (18%)
grams of protein: 232 (27%)
grams of carbs: 482(55%)

Also I bought some sugar free kool aid to mix with the r4w, bad idea. Without the strong sugar taste, the flavor of the R4w is overwhelming. I will continue my search for a low sugar drink to mix with this. Today, i could def feel the effects of the increased dosage.
If this energy boost keeps up, i might be doing cardio all night. But it does make me sweat like a beast though.

dr8sides

03-01-2005, 08:47 PM

Six do you think so? I have trained more often and with a greater intensity when getting ready for a fight., but i was eating a lotmore. do you think that the above is over traing for the amt of cals i am consuming?
Thanks

Sixpack

03-02-2005, 02:12 AM

Yes i think that is too much cardio bro just my opinion

dr8sides

03-18-2005, 03:03 PM

Sorry to everyone who was following my log. I had a death in the family that required my attention and I was out of the state for a little over a week. During that time this log was not on my mind, and my grandmom doesnt have internet access. The situation has passed and I am home and ready to resume training right were I left off ( I am on my way to the gym right now). I was in Cali for the funeral and everything and the only gym that I could use was a rinky old weight bench. I did what I could (ie lots of running, plyos, situps, pull ups, etc). and now I am happy to be back and resume training. Also I did my best to maintain my diet (I forgot my laptop so I had no access to my logs, but i didi write everthing down). I have also continued to take r4w and diesel fuel for the duration.

Ok, so again my apologies, but the situation was beyond my control.

Thanks
Dr8

dr8sides

03-19-2005, 05:48 PM

Today was my first day back to work since I got hurt, and I think that I have the worst job ever, I drive a rig for a moving company and moving furniture all day isnt fun. Anyway, despite the nice 12 hour day, I made it to the gym. Dog tired, but the R4W got me up. I have to say that I have been very impressed so far by the R4W. It is def a powerful enegy booster, as for the DF, the jury remains out.

Shoulders/Arms

dumbbell military press(warmup): 35's x20, x20, x20
seated rear lateral raises: 25's x9, x9, x8
seated lateral raises: 25's x8, x8, x7
arnold presses: 55's x8, x8, x9
upright row (narrow grip): 120 x8, x6 (wide grip) 95 x8, x8
behind the back barbell shrugs: 205 x6, x7, x7

dips: (bodyweight) 20, 20, 20, 20
close grip benchpress: 135 x9, 145 x8, x10
skull crushers: 70 x6 x8, x8
rope presses: 40 x8, x9, x6

barbell curls: 45 x20, x20, x20
seated alternating curls: 30's x8, x6, x6
zottman curls: 25's x8, x8, x8
barbell curls: 70 x7, 70 x8, x8

wrist curls: 45 x25, x25, x25, x25

Felt really good to lift, but now I am dog tired. I am falling in love with the R4W. Hopefully the DF will yield some similar results as a thermo? No cardio today bc it is too late and I worked all day.

dr8sides

03-19-2005, 07:49 PM

Todays calories
3611
279 grams of protien 31%
77grams of fat 19%
489 grams of carbs 50% (also includes fiber)

I m back and ready to dominate

questions?
comments?
Thanks for reading.

Striation

03-20-2005, 10:23 PM

Damn, 12 hours of moving furniture and you're still busting your ass. Mad props man, keep it up!

dr8sides

03-21-2005, 12:40 PM

On sunday I worked 17 hours and sadly my gym was closed by the time that i got done. So during the day during breaks and free time, I busted out crunches, wind sprints, and during the day I ran as hard as I could up the stairs of the office complex we moved with boxes etc. That is the extent of cardio for me on sun. Bc I worked so late, I slept late and didnt go to the gym this morning, but fear not, I will be lifting as soon as I leave school today. Approx 5 pm, and then I have muay thai at 8

Thanks for reading
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P.S. when I get home tonight, I will post sundays nutrition.

dr8sides

03-21-2005, 10:09 PM

ok here is the nutrition stuff from sunday

Calories 3645
260 grams of protien (28.5%)
77 grams of fat (19%)
520 grams of carbs (includs fiber, 52.5%)

Monday lifting (Legs)
leg extensions (warmup): 90 x 25, x25, x25
smith squats: 225 x15, x5, x15
leg press: 270 x 25, 360 x20, 450 x15, 540 x10, 630 x9
front squats: 135 x 15, 185 x10, 185 x10

lying leg curls: 90 x25, 125 x12, 135 x 9
seated leg curls: 120 x15, x12, x13, x13
straight leg deadlifts: 135 X11, 12, 10, 9

Followed by 1.5 hours of muay thai kickboxing, and some upper ab work.
Ok,tomorrow I will be back on my normal schedule (am lifting and pm cardio/mma). As for work, the only days that it will mees me up is on the weekends if i have long days, so I will take them as they come and do my best to get everything done.
Supplementaion has been right on schedule. I am starting to see the vaugest outlines of my abs, and the R4W is kicking my ass and making me feel like a total beast. Today I pushed really hard and was pleased, but when I got to thai just an hour later, I was beat, and that workout really suffered. So again, the schedule is back on track so there will be plenty of time between workouts.
Todays Calories 3657
265 grams of protien (29%)
73 grams of fat (18%)
522 grams of carbs (includes fiber, 53%)

SO tired and ready for bed, luckily i have nothing but workouts tomorrow
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Thanks for reading

dr8sides

03-22-2005, 12:20 PM

TUESDAY CHEST/BACK

flatbench (warmup): 135 x20, x20, x20
incline benchpress: 155 x8, x8, x7, x9
decline benchpress: 185 x7, x8, x10, x8
incline flye: 55's x8, x8, x8, x6

assited pullups(warmup): @ 165lbs x12, x10, x11, x11
seated pully rows: 140 x8, x9, x9
bent-over bb rows:155 x 10, x8 x9, x7
t bar rows: 160 x8, x9, x7
assit pull ups: 200 x10, x12, x9, x10
deadlifts: 285 x10, x9, x9

Took df before am meal, R4W before lifting, this is the best workout i have had in a long time. I felt great and it it showed on someof my lifts. After lifting i went home, ate, and then had a nice yoga class. I feel great, but I think that my body might be getting accustomed to the df or the R4W. When I wake up I have no desire to lift or train, and it takes the R4W to get me up. Dont get me wrong the R4W is AWESOME, and I get soooooooo amped, i just dont want to rely on it for my motivation. other than that all is good Time for a nap and then mma tonight.
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Thanks for reading

CHUCK DIESEL

03-22-2005, 12:30 PM

If you take a mood elevator/motivation supplement like DIESEL FUEL every AM you may become needy for it. Just go to Ready4War on workout days and DF on non-workout days or don’t take DF every morning am.

dr8sides

03-23-2005, 04:53 AM

Went to thai and bjj. Wow did I get my ass kicked (not literally, but the workout was so intense, when i got home I ate and fell right asleep).
Just over an hour of thai, about an hour of bjj and then roughly 30 mins (6 rounds) of rolling. Whew.

Calories 3597
243 grams of protien (27%)
76 grams of fat (19%)
512 grams of carbs (54%)

Back on schedule, no rest for the wicked and I have a new training partner to push me 3 days a week. Upon waking, so incredibly stiff and tired, but as become the norm- wake take 2 df, pack lunch and and wait 20 mins, eat breakfast, pack gym bag, drink R4W, wow AMPED and ready to kick some ass.

WEDENSDAY Shoulders/Arms
(warm up) dumbbellmilitary presses: 35's x20, x 20, x20
seated rear laterals: 25's x 8, x7, x7
seated laterals: 25's x9, x9, x8
power cleans: 135 x7, x8, x8
arnold press: 60's x 6, x8, x9
upright rows: 105 x8, x9, x8 wide grip x10
shrugs(dumbells): 90's x9, x8,x8

dips(body weight): 23, 19, 18, 18
cable press downs: 80 x8, x9, x7
french press: 70 x9, x8, x8
kickbacks: 20 x8, x8, x9

curls(barbell): 45 x20, x20, x20
preacher curls: 75 x8, x7, x8
seated incline alt. dumbbell curls: 30's x7, x7, x6
cable curls(drop set, 1 plate at a time): Starting weight 100 x8 then drop

wrist curls: 45 x25, x25, x25
reverse wrist curls: 55 x20, x20, x20

I have been able to go up on a bunch of exercises and the R4W is keeping my energy levels up the whole time. It is nice to be able to increase a few lifts and still have the energy to complete the rest of my workout full force.

dr8sides

03-24-2005, 11:37 AM

Cardio last night was nothing spectacular. I played some pickup bball for about 90 mins, and when i was finished,i hit the jump rope for 15 mins.
I have noticed that my sleep has been really deep and refreshing lately, I think that is a result of my training, but maybe it could be a result/side of DF?????

Wed calories 3657
253 grams of protien (28%)
73 grams of fat(18%)
511 grams of carbs (54%)

THURSDAY LEGS
leg extensions(warm up): 90 x25, x20, x20
leg press: 270 x20, 360 x12, 450 x12, x12
smith squats: 135 x10, 225 x12, x13, x10
hack squats: 140 x 15, x17, x13, x15

lying leg curls: 90 x 20, 105 x12, x12, x12
seated leg curls: 140 x12, x13, x14, x14
straight leg deadlifts: 135 x12, x12, x13, x13

seated calf raises: 100 x30, x30, x30
horizontial calf extensions: 180 x22, x27, x25

I cut this workout a little short this morning. My left knee was a little sore from the ball last night, and when i was doing quads, i could feel some weakness in my knee. It felt kind of unstable, so i skipped lunges. As my workout progressed, it stiffened up and felt kinda wobbly to walk on. So I also cut calves a little short. I went home, took some glucosamine (sp) and iced it a little, followed by some light stretching, and it felt strong, so i also went to my yoga class today, knee felt great cept on some lunges and warrior poses, the initial movenment at/past parallel on the knee felt loose, but no wobbles, no pain. Went home and iced and napped and it feels great. I also switched to smith squats to try to help with pressure in the knee and flexation on my ankle which is felt kinda weak lately. I feel that after a week or two of smiths, the ankle and knee will be ok and ready to go back to full on squats.

Tonight thai, bjj, and maybe some running.
Thanks for reading
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CrazyTall

03-24-2005, 12:08 PM

Great log! Keep it up!

Sixpack

03-24-2005, 12:26 PM

Damn high reps for legs bro do u feel u gain from that better

dr8sides

03-24-2005, 06:40 PM

Tonight the bjj was short, 75 mins of thia and only 35 mins of bjj, no rolling.
Feeling great.

Six, I think that the higher rep range lets me really work my quads and hams, and I noticed that when I am competing, the endurance I have in the those muscles is so great (I cannot remember the last time I was submittedby a knee bar or calf crush, etc.). In my sport I would rather be moderately strong over a long period rather than supra strong for a few reps, and my training reflects this. In my experience in mma, strength will fade and technique will usually prevail. So again, I would rather have a consistant strength base that will last over 3-5 rounds (5 mins each). After I get myself back into reasonable shape, I am toying with the idea of taking maybe 6-8 months (from any competitions) and trying to gain some serious mass and strength (like 12 lbs of muscle), and when I try to do that, I will enlist the help of all of the experts on the board and hopefully you guys will help me. As you can see, i have the dedication and the energy, I will just need a little advice. But thanks for the question, I will have plenty in prolly 2-3 months.

Calories 3598
265 grams of protien (29%)
73 grams of fat (18%)
499 grams of carbs (53%)

Thanks for reading.
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dr8sides

03-27-2005, 02:34 PM

Sorry that I dodont post these on the appropiate days, but I have been crazy busy, and havent had a chance to sit and enter them until now.
Whew.

Friday
chest/back
assited pullups(warmup): @ 165lbs x12, x11, x11, x10
seated pully rows: 160 x10, x9, x10
bent-over bb rows:155 x 9, x8 x9
t bar rows: 185 x7, x7, x6
assit pull ups: 200 x10, x11, x7, x6
deadlifts: 285 x10, x8, x7

flatbench (warmup): 135 x20, x20, x20
incline benchpress dumbells: 75's x10, 80's x8, x7, x7
decline benchpress: 185 x7, x8, x10, x8
incline flye: 60's x8, x8, x6
flat bench (smith machine, to absolute failure): 185 x 15, 205 x7, 205 x9

Cardio: 75 mins thai, 75 mins bjj, 30 mins rolling

Saturday
Shoulders/Arms
(warm up) dumbbellmilitary presses: 35's x20, x 20, x20
seated rear laterals: 25's x 8, x7, x8
seated laterals: 25's x10, x9, x8
dumbbell miltary press: 65's x9, 70's x8, x8
upright rows: 115 x8, x6, x7 wide grip 95x10
behind back shrugs: 205 x12, x12, x11

dips(body weight): 23, 19, 18, 18
close grip bench press: 155 x9, x8, x7
overhead dumbell press: 70 x9, x8, x8
cable pressdowns: 80 x8, x9, x7

curls(barbell): 45 x20, x20, x20
curls (barbell): 65 x10, 70 x7, x7
seated incline alt. dumbbell curls: 30's x8, x8, x8
cable curls(drop set, 1 plate at a time): Starting weight 100 x8 then drop

wrist curls: 45 x25, x25, x25
reverse wrist curls: 55 x20, x20, x20

cardio: basketball for just under 2 hours

Two things, I know that these workouts are slightly different than what I have been doing, but that is bc i have a new lifting partner, and there has to be some compromise.
Also my diet is almost the same daily, if you still want me to continue to include it, then I will otherwise, I am going to start omitting it, unless somethings changes.

Also I am Taking today (sunday, easter) totally off.
Questions?
Comments?
Thanks for reading

dr8sides

03-28-2005, 08:27 PM

Monday
legs
leg extensions (warmup): 90 x 25, x25, x25
smith squats: 225 x15, x15, x15, x15
leg press: 270 x 25, 360 x20, 450 x15, 540 x10, 630 x10, x8
front squats: 135 x 15, 185 x10, 185 x11

lying leg curls: 90 x25, 125 x12, 135 x 10
seated leg curls: 120 x15, x13, x13, x13
straight leg deadlifts: 135 X11, 12, 10, 10

Still feeling good, but I think that a little fatigue is starting to set in. I need to make sure to get 8 + hours of sleep a night and relax on my off days, so I am gonna take it easy on cardio tonite. R4w is the real deal I cannot stress this enough, It is a great preworkout energizer, I feel like i could lift forever.

Questions?
Comments?
Thanks for reading.

dr8sides

04-02-2005, 04:54 PM

wow this was one of the craziest and busiest weeks of my life. The comapny that i work for is switching agencies (from mayflower to atlas, and we worked till after midnight all week getting ready for the switch as well as painting, changing signs, etc. and I had exams in nearly every class. While i was able to lift all week, i just didnt have the time to make it to any bjj/mma or really do any cardio (and i was too damn tired). whew here are my lifts from this week.

Chest/Back (TUES)

flatbench (warmup): 135 x20, x20, x20
incline benchpress: 165 x7, x7, x7, x5
decline benchpress: 185 x7, x8, x10, x9
incline flye: 55's x8, x8, x6, x6

assited pullups(warmup): @ 165lbs x12, x10, x11, x11
seated pully rows: 140 x8, x9, x9
bent-over bb rows:155 x 9, x8 x8, x7
t bar rows: 160 x8, x7, x7
assit pull ups: 200 x10, x12, x9, x10
deadlifts: 285 x10, x9, x9

Shoulders/Arms (WED)
dumbbellmilitary presses(warm up): 35's x20, x 20, x20
seated rear laterals: 25's x 8, x9, x8
seated laterals: 25's x9, x9, x8
power cleans: 135 x7, x8, x8
arnold press: 60's x 7, x8, x7
upright rows: 105 x8, x9, x8 wide grip x10
shrugs(dumbells): 90's x9, x8,x8

dips(body weight): 23, 19, 18, 22
cable press downs: 80 x8, x9, x7
french press: 70 x9, x8, x8
kickbacks: 20 x8, x8, x9

curls(barbell): 45 x20, x20, x20
preacher curls: 75 x8, x7, x8
seated incline alt. dumbbell curls: 30's x7, x7, x6
cable curls(drop set, 1 plate at a time): Starting weight 100 x8 then drop

wrist curls: 45 x25, x25, x25
reverse wrist curls: 55 x20, x20, x20

LEGS (THURS)
leg extensions(warm up): 90 x25, x20, x20
leg press: 270 x20, 360 x12, 450 x12, 540 x10, x12
smith squats: 135 x10, 225 x12, 275 x14, 11
hack squats: 140 x 15, x17, x13, x15

lying leg curls: 90 x 20, 105 x12, x12, x12
seated leg curls: 140 x12, x13, x14, x14
straight leg deadlifts: 135 x12, x12, x13, x13

seated calf raises: 100 x30, x30, x30
horizontial calf extensions: 180 x22, x27, x25

Skipped friday, no time!!!!!!!!!!(Chest and Back day)

Shoulders/Arms(SAT)

dumbbell military press(warmup): 35's x20, x20, x20
seated rear lateral raises: 25's x9, x9, x9
seated lateral raises: 25's x8, x8, x8
arnold presses: 55's x8, x7, x6
upright row (narrow grip): 120 x8, x6 (wide grip) 95 x8
behind the back barbell shrugs: 205 x6, x7, x6

dips: (bodyweight) 20, 20, 20, 20
close grip benchpress: 135 x9, 145 x8, x10, x9
skull crushers: 70 x6 x8, x8
rope presses: 40 x8, x9, x8

barbell curls: 45 x20, x20, x20
seated alternating curls: 30's x8, x7, x7
zottman curls: 25's x8, x9, x9
barbell curls: 70 x7, 75 x8, x8

wrist curls: 45 x25, x25, x25, x25

I think that the lapse in cadio will be good, as it will give my body a chance to recover a little, i just wish that i could have gotten more sleep this week.

I also weighed in on tuesday morning, 215, 17% bf. not bad so far. I will be moving/starting this log over in the supp log forum. Chuck D sent me some of his new formula R4W and if it is as good as he is claiming, then it will be a must have for all (I already consider the R4W that i have been using as a staple, yes it is that good) So far kinda of dissapointed in the Diesel Fuel, but i will continue on it unitl i reach my goal. See you all in the supp log forum.
Thanks for reading
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Sixpack

04-02-2005, 05:30 PM

Keep us updated on Ready 4 War I am excited to see how u feel on it

dr8sides

04-04-2005, 03:24 PM

CHUCK DIESEL

04-05-2005, 05:08 AM

The taste is the same, but I think that blunted or muted best describes it. I mean the I feel that the taste is the same as the old formula, just not as intense, and the aftertaste is not as severe. Tomorrow I will go back to mixing it with juice anyway so I will not have to deal with that any way. As for the effects of the product, incredible.

Well the new bottles say the flavor is neutral so if someone mixes it with water its because they dont want a flavor. But personally I think the taste is not as strong. Im sure CEE is worse and people mix that with something.

Sixpack

04-05-2005, 05:45 AM

Unreal , well you just make my mind up making an order for this today, I have tried DF and loved the thermo effect, I am waiting for BB.com to get it in. But gotta try some R4w

Started the new r4w today. It is def different, as it has a diferent look/smell/consistancy. I will say that it smells better, but I would not go so far as to say that is smells good. Like the old formula, it mixes very easily and completely. Now the taste. I want to say that it tastes better, but it doesnt exactly. The taste is the same, but I think that blunted or muted best describes it. I mean the I feel that the taste is the same as the old formula, just not as intense, and the aftertaste is not as severe. Tomorrow I will go back to mixing it with juice anyway so I will not have to deal with that any way. As for the effects of the product, incredible. I have said this numerous times already, I LOVE r4w. This morning in the gym, I didnt want to leave. I felt as if I could lift forever. It is not a sudden rush or a jumpy feeling, it is a gradual build of energy, and then it is like a total wave of focus and energy washes over me and I am in the zone. And the best part is that feeling lasts for a few hours (about 2.5-3). This is just a prelim, I will be able to better gauge the difference the more that i use this new formula.
Also, I am not sure if I should post all my lifts?
Is that appropiate bc the product that I am reviewing is an energy booster, not a strength or mass gainer?
If those who read this want me to post the details of my workout then i gladly will, but if not, ok just let me know.
Today was leg day, and now (12 hours after I finished) I still feel like walking is torture :)

Thanks for reading.
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comments?

dr8sides

04-05-2005, 10:30 AM

This new formula blows the other away. Today in the gym, I was able to push harder than ever before. Also energy levels are waaaaay up. The last set of my workout feels like my first warm up set. I was kind of sceptical at first when I heard that there would be a new formula, I thought that is was a ploy/gimmick to draw in more customers, make more of us try it (sorry to doubt you Chuck, it is just what Iam used to in the supp industry). It is incredible. I know that I am repeating myself, but i cannot stress how pleased I am with this product. I would recommend this to anyone, and I can only imagine how well this product would work when stacked with some kind of mass gaining supp (like creatine or no, or something along those lines, but i am not sure how the caffeine would interact with the creatine). With something like that you could just destroy your muscles.
Chuck, I agree that the flavor is better, but it is still isnt "tasty".lol
It is def much better and props to you for addressing that, and making it better. Note to any who read this, not only did the taste improve, but the effectiveness of this product is off the charts. I cannot say wow enough.
On the neg side, I dont like the fact that the scoop isnt the serving size. On mine it says that 1 serving is 3/4 of the scoop. Not really a big deal, i just hate guessing/estimating. Other than that this is great.
Six and anyone else who is thinking of buying this, i dont know when then new formula will be in the stores, so Chuck can you let us know?
Thanks for reading.
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comments?

CHUCK DIESEL

04-05-2005, 10:37 AM

I cannot say wow enough.
On the neg side, I dont like the fact that the scoop isnt the serving size. On mine it says that 1 serving is 3/4 of the scoop. Not really a big deal, i just hate guessing/estimating. Other than that this is great.

I was wondering why you didn’t think the new formula was better. I estimate its 75 to 100% stronger but a diff. type of stronger. It has over 1.2g of Mag. Malate per serving. Also the scoop problem was this.

usually 33cc of this formula is 16.5g of dry (when it was 10g of whey.)

Now the whey is less and the sodium phosphates, mag. malate etc., are heavier the 33cc scoop was not needed for 16.5g, it needs 25cc.

So had stickers added to the top of the container? 3/4 of a scoop is exactly if you fill it to the bottom of the scooper handle (where it meets the cylinder).

This blend is also more thermogenic it has about 100mg of EGCG per serving.

I can do ½ serving on the new formula to = 1 of the current one. I don’t want people not buying the current one because the new one will not start circulating for at least another month.

I took an untouchable product and made it ridiculously untouchable.

dr8sides

04-05-2005, 10:42 AM

You are right, this is unbeatable. I have never had anything this effective before, and I have tried almost all energy/thermos out there. You put it best "stronger in a different way."
It is def better, and I think that the mood enhancement effects and the mental focusing effects of this are better than the old formula.
You have made me a believer and made R4W a staple in cabinet.

WorkoutMD

04-05-2005, 10:48 AM

Started the new r4w today. It is def different, as it has a diferent look/smell/consistancy. I will say that it smells better, but I would not go so far as to say that is smells good. Like the old formula, it mixes very easily and completely. Now the taste. I want to say that it tastes better, but it doesnt exactly. The taste is the same, but I think that blunted or muted best describes it. I mean the I feel that the taste is the same as the old formula, just not as intense, and the aftertaste is not as severe. Tomorrow I will go back to mixing it with juice anyway so I will not have to deal with that any way. As for the effects of the product, incredible. I have said this numerous times already, I LOVE r4w. This morning in the gym, I didnt want to leave. I felt as if I could lift forever. It is not a sudden rush or a jumpy feeling, it is a gradual build of energy, and then it is like a total wave of focus and energy washes over me and I am in the zone. And the best part is that feeling lasts for a few hours (about 2.5-3). This is just a prelim, I will be able to better gauge the difference the more that i use this new formula.
Also, I am not sure if I should post all my lifts?
Is that appropiate bc the product that I am reviewing is an energy booster, not a strength or mass gainer?
If those who read this want me to post the details of my workout then i gladly will, but if not, ok just let me know.
Today was leg day, and now (12 hours after I finished) I still feel like walking is torture :)

Thanks for reading.
Questions?
comments?

I received R4W last week and I have been using it since then, and I am very impressed with the results. I was going to keep a log for review, but given my constraints at the current time with work and a pregnant wife who is ready to deliver at any moment, I am not able to do it justice. I did, however, want to pipe in and relate my experience.

My favorite w/o drink in the past was Ultimate Orange, and I decided to give this product a try since the feedback on the forums was very positive. My very first workout I could tell the difference not only in reps, but also intensity. I usually do a pyramid with chest using Power Blocks up to 100# each arm for 4-5 reps, resting 2-3 minutes in between sets. My last workout I did 40#x12, 50#x10, 60#x8, 70#x8, 80#x6, 90#x6, then 100#x6...all with only one minute rest intervals. It was the best workout for chest that I have experienced in years! I took the R4W pre-workout mixed with Cytomax and whey protein...as Chuck has indicated, it will kick in after about 15-20 minutes. I am doing legs today so I will try to pass on my experience after the workout.

As a disclaimer I will say that I bought the R4W from BB.com,so this was not a free sample. I do not know Chuck Diesel in any way, shape, or form, so I don't want people to feel my review is biased in any way. I amjust another lifter trying to pass on his experiences...in this case, a very good experience.

dr8sides

04-05-2005, 11:08 AM

I also have no affiliation with Chuck or his company. I purchased R4W based on word of mouth and he sent me a free bottle of the new formula, I still have 2 of the old that I bought from another web site. I agree that the workouts are the best EVER. Cant wait to read your log and see how far it can help you push yourself.

WorkoutMD

04-05-2005, 12:16 PM

Iron Draggin

04-05-2005, 07:30 PM

CHUCK DIESEL

04-06-2005, 05:41 AM

Frankly i'm a little worried to try the new stuff, the current model has been destroying me in the gym already. And if the taste is blunted that's just a bonus.

BTW, under Chucks advice I stopped using a thermo at the same time as R4W, I would have to say that made a difference in the effects. I have no understanding of why that is, but if your taking something (thermo) with R4W I would suggest trying without. Either way, when I get done with my MAN review I'm likely going to be picking up the new batch (probably will do a Ether/R4W/Fuel review).

You said if you are using a thermo with ready4war to try it by itself (R4W)?

The only stack I have see to be really cazy is 1 DF and 1 serving r4w or ETHER 1 hour prior, 1 ser. R4W 30min. prior.

Other thermos dont take at the same time as R4W.