Dymatize Xpand

[bingwalker]

I just bought this today and am excited for my workout coming up. Just wanted to mention that this stuff tastes awesome! EXACTLY like koolaid period, no aftertaste or anthing. Hallelujah, I was nervous.

[bingwalker]

I went with the tropical berry flavor.

[Bajarock3]

That's the one I tried too. It's great.

[bingwalker]

If you mix it with Hawaiian Punch instead of water you can't taste anything but pure Hawaiian goodness.

[nitrous]

i've been on it for a couple weeks now..i'm up a lot...bench has gone from 200 once to 225 3 times....(i should also add that this muscle is just coming back as i could at one time bench more)

[italionstallion]

anyone try the pina colada flavor, i think thats what im gonna go with

[Leafs/Pack]

I ordered Tropical Berry on saturday from bb.com, can't wait to get it

[warriors]

there coming out with it in caplets here soon

[85_305]

I have the Pina Colada.. it is very good :cool:
I dont know if it is CEE though (?)

[Poker_Face]

I ordered pina colada...I'am waiting for it as well, but your bench going from 200 to 235 in a week seems very good...cant wait for it!

[italionstallion]

i also just ordered, pina coolada. hope it works

[bingwalker]

this is my 4th day on it and one thing I notice is that I'm really focused on what I'm doing. Whether it be at work or at the gym my mind seems to be a little "enhanced". I am really focused and have alot more "pep" even when not in the gym. This usually lasts 2-3 hours. after each serving.

[bingwalker]

Ok, I've been off Creatine Mono for 2 weeks, started Xpand 5 days ago, and I've lost 4 lbs. Is that common to lose that much weight when going off mono? I know with mono you retain water, so is that the weight loss? Nothing else has changed in diet and workout.

[warriors]

Ok, I've been off Creatine Mono for 2 weeks, started Xpand 5 days ago, and I've lost 4 lbs. Is that common to lose that much weight when going off mono? I know with mono you retain water, so is that the weight loss? Nothing else has changed in diet and workout.

all ur prolly losing is water weight

[Colinballin23]

I have the Pina Colada.. it is very good :cool:
I dont know if it is CEE though (?)

I went through mine already I miss it now :( but it is CEE atleast it says so on the bottle they recently changed up there formula they need to update the store with that now it would be very popular.

[Grow_74]

quick question on Xpand. It says on the bottle that you should take withing 15-45 minutes withouth eating anything 30 minutes prior. So for Post workout do you guys have a post workout meal real quick then wait about 30 minutes and then take it? Thanks in advance.

[italionstallion]

i havent started using it yet, but you should take it pre work out, not post. then take it 8 hours before or after that, 30 min before a meal

[Grow_74]

i havent started using it yet, but you should take it pre work out, not post. then take it 8 hours before or after that, 30 min before a meal
No......on the directions it says on workout-days you should take it 15-45 minutes before a workout and 15-45 minutes after a workout and it cant be within 30 minutes of a meal.

[italionstallion]

lol, i typed that right off the directions on my little tub. so i go buy what i read on my directions. sorry if yours say something else, but i didnt make that up

[Grow_74]

**** sorry man......i bought mine from canada so maybe it says something else. Ill do what u told me...thanks bro.

[85_305]

I went through mine already I miss it now :( but it is CEE atleast it says so on the bottle they recently changed up there formula they need to update the store with that now it would be very popular.


No, it is not cee. It is tri-creatine malate :( (according to the label)

[Blindfaith]

One of my favorite supplements of all times! i love this stuff

[Grow_74]

No, it is not cee. It is tri-creatine malate :( (according to the label)
No it is CEE im looking right at my container right now. 4gr CEE per serving

[85_305]

what?? When did you order yours? My pina-colada says "4g Tricreatine Malate" :mad:
Dammit.. this makes me wanna break something!!!

[Leafs/Pack]

**** sorry man......i bought mine from canada so maybe it says something else. Ill do what u told me...thanks bro.

Mine says the same thing as your and I bought mine from Canada too. Wierd.
Anyways when I start mine I'm just gonna have my PWO shake immediately following a workout, and then have the Xpand about 30 min later.

Does anybody see a problem with this?

[Grow_74]

what?? When did you order yours? My pina-colada says "4g Tricreatine Malate" :mad:
Dammit.. this makes me wanna break something!!!
I ordered mine about 8 days ago.

[85_305]

What?? I got mine about 8 days ago..
DAMMIT! lol

[italionstallion]

anybody else's xpand all clumped up when they opened it. no big deal i just broke it up, but im just curious

[85_305]

anybody else's xpand all clumped up when they opened it. no big deal i just broke it up, but im just curious

*In Butthead's voice* Uhhhhhhhhhhh, no.. *end of Butthead's voice*
Lol.. but seriously, no it was not clumped up. But there IS a really *fine* dust, and then there is a really *pebbly* type of dust. Was yours like that?

[Colinballin23]

No, it is not cee. It is tri-creatine malate :( (according to the label)

it shouldn't be you got ripped off. Xpand changed the ingrediants no longer than a few months ago. So it should be CEE. The place you bought it from may be trying to get rid of old containers and ripped you off. I got mine in December and it had 4 grams of CEE. Hopefully you still have a good experience with it as it is probably still solid but not as effective as the CEE version I imagine.

[Colinballin23]

i havent started using it yet, but you should take it pre work out, not post. then take it 8 hours before or after that, 30 min before a meal

I took it pre and post as it stated on the bottle. I would eat a meal then 30 to 40 minutes late take Xpand then go to the gym then about 15 minutes after take Xpand and then 30 minutes later take my post workout protein shake. Worked fine for me a few others I know that have taken it took it that way to I guess you could probably get results your way as well but the bottle states 30 minutes before a work out and 15 to 45 minutes after.

[nin10dude]

Alright, you guys convinced me to try Xpand. Well, you guys and the fact that I get a pimpin' Dymatize Xpand t-shirt with purchase. w00t! lol. I'll probably use it next month after I cycle off creatine for a while.

[NaveedK]

i dont know how you got convinced or what, but how can you do for a product when you dont know the quantity of iingredients. XPAND DOES NOT HAVE 4g OF CEE. It says CEE Fusion or something. So it has Tri Creatine Malate and Creatine Ethyl ESter Malate. Maybe they have 3.6g of Tri Creatine malate and 0.4g of cee? we dont know. They recently came up with a new xpand in caplets form. Same thing. They dont specify the cee. they completely took out the tri create malate from the new version. but the serving size is only 5.1g. so you are expecting very little taurine, aakg, and so on.

just go with bulk stuff. it will cost you a lot less. one box of xpand will last you one month. one box of bulk cee (at 4g per day) will last you 10 months. you do the math.

[pu12en12g]

And what's wrong with tricreatine malate NaveedK ? Just curious... since you seem to be bashing Xpand pretty hard. I do agree that buying in bulk is usually cheaper, but you seem to be forgetting the other ingredients of Xpand (besides the Creatine / CEE):

Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (A-AKG) 3g
Betaine-Anhydrous 2g
Taurine (Micronized) 2g
N-Acetyl-L-Glutamine 1g

Xpansion Matrix™ 3000mg
Glycocyamine
glucuronolactone
l-citrulline
guanidinopropionic acid
mct's (medium chain triglycerides)
vinpocetine 99%
vincamine 99%
silicon dioxide

[NaveedK]

so you would rather have Tri Creatine Malate over CEE? if you have 36.95 every month for xpand, then go for it. but i only have 3 dollars per month so i am going for kre-alkalyn in bulk.

i am looking for a creatine product. you might be looking for other ingredients. i am not interested in other ingredients so thats why i have the negative opinion about xpand. but even the other ingredients, you can buy a 5 month supply of taurine for like 6 bucks. same with other ingredients. so its up to you. depends on how much money you have. but i am going to buy a product, i at least want to know how much what is in the product. with xpand, you dont know how much cee is in there.

good luck.

[flex78]

Just got this today, My friend takes this and siad it is a great product, I heard some people say that Nitric Oxide is dangerous?? Has anyone heard this before?
Thanks

[NaveedK]

it works the same way viagara works. go figure.

[flex78]

Really? So its not dangerous then right?


it works the same way viagara works. go figure.

[flex78]

I found This info at another forum, Check it out
Here are some links to the effects of nitric oxide synthesis:
http://www.imakerala.org/nitricoxide1.htm
http://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/ibls/GradSchool/2002/cardio.htm
http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S68.html
http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S63.html
http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S71.html
http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S72.html
http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S73.html
http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S74.html
http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S75.html
http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S76.html
http://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S78.html
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/328/23/1659
http://ehpnet1.niehs.nih.gv/docs/1998/Suppl-5/1139-1143shah/abstract.html

My advice would be to stop taking it at once. I can find the medical studies to back my claim from the American Journal of Sports Medicine, the Journal of Applied Physiology and the National Strength and Conditioning Journal.

But I will simplify it for you:
Nitric oxcide (no2) causes vasodilation in your blood vessels. As a result, blood pressure drops quickly and drastically. This alerts chemoreceptors and as a last ditch effort to keep the brain from going into shock, the blood vessels leading to the brain vasoconstrict (tighten/get smaller). Sometimes the blood vessels contract completely, not allowing any blood to get through to the brain.
It is no wonder why the most common side effect of no2 is dizzyness. Some have fainted and some have died. I suspect more deaths will come from no2 in the near future. Make sure you aren't one of them...

[85_305]

it shouldn't be you got ripped off. Xpand changed the ingrediants no longer than a few months ago. So it should be CEE. The place you bought it from may be trying to get rid of old containers and ripped you off. I got mine in December and it had 4 grams of CEE. Hopefully you still have a good experience with it as it is probably still solid but not as effective as the CEE version I imagine.

A few months ago?? What the?? I bought it from here at bb.com..
What should I do?? lol.
What exactly *are* the other ingrediants in Xpand for? As I noticed there are quite a few of them. I believe that a small ammount of aakg is good, but I will wait for pu12 to chime in here again and set the finishing words in stone :cool:

[fLexX421]

will they have the new one with CEE instead of tricreatine malate, and u guys are talkin about the powder form rite, not the new pill form?

[NaveedK]

flex 78

you found good info on no2. so should we all stop taking it guys? flex you said you already bought some xpand. what are you doing with it?

[flex78]

Why are you Telling me to shut up!
I am not trying to start anything here, In fact I am trying help, Yes I bought this
stuff, but I have not taking it yet,After reading the info below,
The only reason I got it, because a pro bodybuilder friend of mine told me about it,
I was at the store, I was going to get Prolab Creatine, and he told about Xpand?
I am not sure I am going to take it or take it back? I have heard Dymatize products are good,
so really would like to try, But if its dangerous I am not going that route,
If someone could give me reason not to take it back, Please let me know, Thanks

Replace ** with tt, for some reason can't post links?

h**p://www.imakerala.org/nitricoxide1.htm
h**p://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/ibls/GradSchool/2002/cardio.htm
h**p://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S68.html
h**p://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S63.html
h**p://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S71.html
h**p://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S72.html
h**p://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S73.html
h**p://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S74.html
h**p://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S76.html
h**p://physiology.cup.cam.ac.uk/Proceedings/Abstracts/523P/Chile/Files/S78.html
h*p://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/328/23/1659
h**p://ehpnet1.niehs.nih.gov/docs/1998/Suppl-5/1139-1143shah/abstract.html




flex 78

you found good info on no2. so should we all stop taking it guys?
flex you said you already bought some xp
and. what are you doing with it?

[flex78]

Well this brand new container of Expand is going to be tried after all, I have talk to a couple people, both in the bodybuilding world and they said I am ok to take it. Like I said I was not putting the product down, I just was being concerned. the info that I posted was taken from the abcbodybuilding.com forum, just to let you know, There is a allot of negetive stuff about allot of good products, so I guess I am going to trust my friend with this one, who is also IFBB Pro, Please let me know, if you have any concern, Agian Thanks

[pu12en12g]

Yeah don't believe everything you hear "flex"... and use the search button

[pu12en12g]

how can you do for a product when you dont know the quantity of iingredients. XPAND DOES NOT HAVE 4g OF CEE. It says CEE Fusion or something. So it has Tri Creatine Malate and Creatine Ethyl ESter Malate. Maybe they have 3.6g of Tri Creatine malate and 0.4g of cee? we dont know.

Ok I already answered this in another thread:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=406476

I understand your concern, but you are spreading misinformation. The primary ingredient has to be listed first, which means it has at LEAST 2g of Creatine Ethyl Ester. Does that make sense ?

[Grow_74]

Man I like the product.......but I think it tastes horrible. Kinda like acid. But again i'm a newbie to CEE.

[Iron Draggin]

Man I like the product.......but I think it tastes horrible. Kinda like acid. But again i'm a newbie to CEE.


Given the choice between Xpand and straight CEE, I'll take the Xpand any day. And as for the concern over how much CEE is in their "Fusion" Honestly, I would be terribly concerned about it. I have never responded to creatine, and I started swelling pretty well on Xpand. I have a log you can check out if you want the specifics. Just do a search.

[flex78]

Yeah it taste like chemicals? Can I mix this with Gatorade?

[pu12en12g]

Yeah it taste like chemicals? Can I mix this with Gatorade?

Absolutely.

[flex78]

Thats good:) Does the gatorade have to be powder or can it be liquid?


Absolutely.

[PJ40]

Anyone trying Xpand with Grapefruit juice for its percentage properties?