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bigbadboy1
03-11-2007, 09:50 PM
I've tried most popular (including BSN NO Xplode, Gaspari's SuperPump 250, Labrada's Supercharge and Dymatize's Xpand) Creatine and Nitric Oxide pre-workout formulas.

However, DETONATE from Netrients definitively provides much more vascularity, stamina and muscle pump. Unlike other products, I find I get all the energy and alertness wihtout the jitters. Also, I don't get any crash after my workout. Another interesting thing, I've noticed that I need less sleep to fully recover when I am using the product.

I plan to continue using it and want to try other products from the same company .

I hope that BB.com will sell those products soon!

Cool.I just finished my first tub of this amazing product.
Very very good product , taste great and get instant results.
Veins popin everywhere.

Netrients kick as* !!!

zbkai189
03-12-2007, 12:55 AM
Im Using NO Xplode and love it, I was wondering though do you still need to take some creatine with it? or is there enough in the NO Explode?

Also... if you combine the no-xplode with BSN's cell mass... you're getting approx. 8g of creatine per training day... not too bad if you ask me

MUSCLE FORTRESS
03-12-2007, 09:34 PM
I never blamed the product for my injury and said it was my fault. I just simply took way too much NO, I combined 2 scoops of NO-Explode + 2 scoops of super charge, and was adding much more weights that I could normally handle. I'm starting over again and will use my NO products again, just not act stupid on them, thats all.

And the feeling I get on NO is kind of comparable to a dentist shot but in my muscles. Ok, it's not as numb but it's pretty much what I feel...

It wasn't the NO I would say it was the massive amount of caffiene you ingested. Got in your head and made you feel invincible/wired. Now if you did that all the time and didn't drink enough water that could cause dehydration and lead to injuries too but if it was a one time deal I'd say you just got a little too psyched up. That's happen to everyone on this board at one time or another if you've been lifting very long so don't beat yourself up (that's our job, lol) and learn from your mistakes. peace
MF

MUSCLE FORTRESS
03-12-2007, 09:41 PM
Im Using NO Xplode and love it, I was wondering though do you still need to take some creatine with it? or is there enough in the NO Explode?

Vaso CrEE is a nice add in to get your creatine. Check it out.

Muscle Fortress Presents:
Vaso-CrEE
Metabolic Muscle Primer!

Boundless Strength And Recovery Without The Bloat!
Finally, a creatine supplement that has been put together with the speed strength athlete in mind! You want boundless strength and recovery without the bloat and water retention slowing you down. You, want to get stronger with every work out. Vaso-CrEE was formulated to provide a synergistic combination of creatine with buffers and super-chargers so, YOU, the athlete gets amazing results without side effects. Each of the ingredients in Vaso-CrEE was carefully chosen because of how it would interact to provide the best possible product for those who won?t settle for just average results. If you want to blow through the plateaus of the past and make those strength and endurance goals a reality, then Vaso-CrEE is the product for you. Now you?re ready to experience creatine with the "undisputed king of creatine!" VASO-CrEE by Muscle Fortress is for you!

What's In It?


Serving Size: 2 Scoops (24g)
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount Per Serving:

Calories 68
Calories from Fat: 0
Total Fat 0g
Saturated Fat 0g
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0g
Sodium 0g
Total Carbohydrate 17g
Dietary Fiber 0g
Sugars 15g
Protein 0g

Creatine Ethyl Ester Hydrochloride 500mg
Carnosine metabolite (Endo KrEE?) 1500mg
Glucose Polymers (Polidex?) 14,660mg
Gynostemma Extract (whole plant) 50mg
Kre-Alkalyn? (Alkalized Creatine) 2000mg
Pikatropin? 40mg
Suma Extract 4:1 (root) 300mg
Fenugreek Extract 4:1 (seed)250mg
Magnesium (as Magnesium malate) 150mg

Ingredients:
Glucose polymers (Polidex), Kre-Alkalyn (Alkalized Creatine), Carnosine Metabolite (Endo KrEE?), Citric Acid, Magnesium malate, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Maltodextrin, Suma Extract, Fenugreek Extract, Creatine Ethyl Ester Hydrochloride, Beet Root Powder, Acesulfame potassium, Gynostemma Extract, Pikatropin, Sucralose.

Directions:


165 lb and below. 1 serving per day split 1 scoop before 1 scoop after training on work out days. Off days one scoop in the morning.
165 lbs to 215 lbs. 1 and 1/2 servings per day 2 scoops before training 1 scoop after. On off days one serving in the morning.
215 lbs plus. 2 servings per day 2 scoops before and after training. On off days one and 1/2 servings (3 scoops) in the morning.
These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

lpritchard
03-13-2007, 09:03 AM
It wasn't the NO I would say it was the massive amount of caffiene you ingested. Got in your head and made you feel invincible/wired. Now if you did that all the time and didn't drink enough water that could cause dehydration and lead to injuries too but if it was a one time deal I'd say you just got a little too psyched up. That's happen to everyone on this board at one time or another if you've been lifting very long so don't beat yourself up (that's our job, lol) and learn from your mistakes. peace
MF


Very true I felt zapped all day after taking NO X thought it was a crash from the caffine but after I kept myself hydrated all day no problems. Just get in the habit of drinking more water throughout the day I think we all need to anyway.

compan
03-13-2007, 07:22 PM
superpump 250.

lilboyblue
03-14-2007, 06:42 AM
I enjoyed Superpump 250 as well as DRIVEN from MRM. In the end I have to choose NO-Shotgun. VPX need to step up the flavors though. Currently it tastes like battery acid. No-Explode shows the true effect of marketing on the human mind. Dig through the internet one day and look for an Independent lab test on NO-Explode. You too might be shocked.

FistofSteel
03-14-2007, 03:07 PM
i stacked no explode w/ gakic...drink em both before w/o and had awesome results...strength and endurance!

Halosoccer24
03-14-2007, 03:13 PM
No-Explode and Nitrix before workout is what i have just started.

lpritchard
03-14-2007, 06:32 PM
Going to try Shotgun with Cellmass after workout. Hopefully NO Shotgun isnt all hype. Picked Shotgun up on eBay for $38 plus $7 shipping from a company I have purchased from b4.

TrancePhreak07
03-14-2007, 08:58 PM
I tried my first workout with NO Shotgun today, it blew away anything I have ever taken. Period. I stuck with NO Xplode for a while, which is still a good product. But it didnt compare to the intensity and pump that shotgun gave me. And yes the flavor might not be the best in the world, but it didnt taste like complete hammered ass like some people said. At least to me it didnt anyways. I would highly recommend this to anyone.

robertleer
03-15-2007, 11:21 PM
yeah definitely just straight arginine. I dont like all the additives of the others.

DIaz1488
03-16-2007, 02:44 PM
I just bought it.. And do you think it works better by itself?? Or do you think it works better if taken With Cell-tech after you work out?? Nano X9 i heard good th ings about it... But i'm not sure..
I'm thinking about Getting No Xplode too.. I have 4 months till i leave to Marine bootcamp and i have to get my pull-ups down.. thats the only reasons im taking these supplements :)
I'm up to like 8 Pullups i need about 20 in less than 4 Months.. You think this is possible with Nano X9 and Cell tech :)
Please reply soon..

TAWS6
03-16-2007, 06:00 PM
I just bought it.. And do you think it works better by itself?? Or do you think it works better if taken With Cell-tech after you work out?? Nano X9 i heard good th ings about it... But i'm not sure..
I'm thinking about Getting No Xplode too.. I have 4 months till i leave to Marine bootcamp and i have to get my pull-ups down.. thats the only reasons im taking these supplements :)
I'm up to like 8 Pullups i need about 20 in less than 4 Months.. You think this is possible with Nano X9 and Cell tech :)
Please reply soon..



Id stack it with a creatine. I recommend sizeon.

ko_kidd
03-16-2007, 06:37 PM
So you

NO Shotgun

guys only take that on days you're working out, right?

DIaz1488
03-16-2007, 08:34 PM
I think if you get BSN NO Xplode and take Nano x9 will perform great pumps and increase in muscle size.. what do you think about this?...
has anyone ever tried this??
Or even if its possible?
LOL.. Please reply soon :)

DIaz1488
03-16-2007, 08:37 PM
Wow SizeOn.. that looks really good :)
But wont taking that kind of supplement will make me test positive for any drugs??.. matter of fact will taking Nano X9 will mak3 you do that..
Because in the marine Corp they do drug tests and maybe steroid test?... Im not saying its in the same category but maybe one of the ingredients in one of them?. hmmmmmmmm

kdog1992
03-17-2007, 09:31 AM
i tried no shotgun and that gave me some serious pump it was unbelieveable.i tried some pump tech before but i didnt notice anything....ill try sp250 and let u no how that works for me.

playa_pek
03-17-2007, 12:05 PM
I've been using noxplode for five days/3 scoops....haven't had anything yet

AminoAmigo
03-17-2007, 01:54 PM
Someone here who tried Nytric EFX ? I?m not sure if i should take No xplode or this ...

Experiences anyone?

Steltzer
03-18-2007, 11:30 AM
ive been using NO X-plode. The first bottle worked great i felt energized and focused and also took with cellmass. But after a while it was time to buy a new bottle. I noticed that i didnt have the energy i had before in the gym. I think even though the bottle says u can take it for i think 12 weeks before u have to take a month off the effects stop way before that. I think i might try no shotgun and see how that works out.

the butler
03-18-2007, 05:45 PM
Gaspari (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-2342518-10410289?url=http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gn/size.html)

LamboEater
03-18-2007, 06:07 PM
Anyone ever tried this product? Wondering what it might be like??

TheDukeUSMC
03-19-2007, 06:30 AM
I tried my first workout with NO Shotgun today, it blew away anything I have ever taken. Period. I stuck with NO Xplode for a while, which is still a good product. But it didnt compare to the intensity and pump that shotgun gave me. And yes the flavor might not be the best in the world, but it didnt taste like complete hammered ass like some people said. At least to me it didnt anyways. I would highly recommend this to anyone.


Any difference between the two? Basically the same stuff or not?

I haven't taken NO Xplode for a long time it worked at first then I *** my brains out like 5 minutes after taking it...never could figure out why

Steltzer
03-19-2007, 11:33 AM
what do u think about this stack

NO shotgun
Cellmass
Nitrix

lpritchard
03-19-2007, 04:34 PM
what do u think about this stack

NO shotgun
Cellmass
Nitrix

I will let you know starting that stack Wednesday.

thebigo5659
03-19-2007, 06:00 PM
Any difference between the two? Basically the same stuff or not?

I haven't taken NO Xplode for a long time it worked at first then I *** my brains out like 5 minutes after taking it...never could figure out why

there is a huge difference in the amount of stimulant and absorption. NO-shotgun doesnt give u a hyper feeling that no-xplode does, but it does help u focus. also the BCAA's in NO-shotgun help in absorption of the product and effectiveness. no-xplode tastes better but is easily tolerated as compared to shotgun that is tolerable but the pumps never reside.

Schellhardt
03-19-2007, 06:16 PM
been using it, seems to give me a lot of energy and good pumps.

vdro
03-20-2007, 05:03 AM
i used hyper shock from Myogenix and i was impressed...

hardgainer247
03-20-2007, 07:32 AM
BSN's No Explode is awesome. Guaranteed, anybody who tries it (you will know right away!) will stay with it! You only need to take it pre-workout... not on non-workout days. This is the leader of no-load creatine / NOS products; often immitated, NEVER DUPLICATED!!


i think it says one scoop on non workout days. but this product is ok i want to try others before i praise no explode, i might try armageddon after this runs out and compare the 2. Thing i noticed with explode is my muscles are harder through out the day and an extreme pump during workouts more noticably during arm days

crzyhorse
03-20-2007, 09:42 AM
Someone here who tried Nytric EFX ? I?m not sure if i should take No xplode or this ...

Experiences anyone?

Depends on what your after. Nytric EFX doesn't have any stimulants in it. If that is what your after NO Xplode has plenty.

Nytric EFX is pure Arginine AKG, very potent, long lasting pumps, strong sustained energy(due to better blood flow).

If you want to feel all jacked up, go for the NO Xplode. Personally I started seeing negative results after about 2 weeks on NO Xplode, but the first few days seemed amazing.

Now, I've only tried this once, but I did have an amazing work-out the night I did. Nytric EFX stacked with Mega Green Tea. 2 tablets keeps the caffiene down to 100mg. I'm about 295lbs I took 4 tabs of Nytric(I only ever take right before I work out) and 2 of the Mega Green Tea. I think I got a lot of thing right that night as far as eating a the right times and all but this stack certainly helped, along with the kre-alkalyn I normally take pre-work-out.

Decapolis
03-20-2007, 06:13 PM
I started shock therapy/storm stack yesterday. My first workout on shock therapy (or any NO product for that matter) went very well. Not only did my body respond, but I could also feel the focus and pump in my head... I felt like a nut. Today, though, I didn't feel the pump and focus as bad in my head. I think it still affected my body because I had a great workout, but it felt so good to actually "feel" it working. My question is this: is it advised/safe to take more than one serving of shock therapy before workout? For example, like a scoop and a half or 2 scoops? Thanks for the help.

I had the exact "pump in my head" that you experienced. It lasted about 3 days and is now totally gone. I wanted to take 1/2 dose in the morning for the focus feel at work and 1 full dose before my workouts, so I emailed Universal. They responded within 24hrs and told me I could take it 2x per day like that but

"We recommend that you only use it pre workout so that your body does not get used to the stimulants."

Hope that helps.

blackhats
03-20-2007, 06:24 PM
^^ Thanks man, I moved my post to a different thread, if you were wondering.

Supermike02777
03-20-2007, 07:23 PM
We all have different opinions, tolerants and most of all lifestyles.
I work at a distribution center in which I lift 10-100pd cases and boxes repetitively 8-12 hrs a day, 5 days a week. I am exhausted daily.
I work 5:00p.m. to 1:30a.m. (most days are mandatory overtime of 2-4 hrs) so, we'll say I get home at 4:30 in the morning most of the time.
I feel like **** when I wake up (like I was out partying the night before)
I've tried NoXplode and barely survived each workout. Started using Superpump250 2 weeks ago. Not only do I workout aggresively, I yell and talk to myself during sets. I pace in between sets and slap the **** out of myself.
Laugh all you want but this stuff works. It takes me about 20 minutes to start feeling the energy, forget the pump, that comes with any good workout.
I would recommend this product if you need a kick in the ass to get you on your feet and into the gym.
P.S. If your ugly, do not stand in front of the mirror after each set, you look like a jack ass!!!!!

MUSCLE FORTRESS
03-20-2007, 09:56 PM
Try it both ways. But I would say to take the NanoX9 before not after your work outs. As far as the pull ups they are easy. Do them every day along with push ups, a couple times a day and by the time you go to boot camp you'll think 20 are easy and you'll be the baddest future Jar head on the block. Kick some ass for the rest of us bro. ciao
MF



I just bought it.. And do you think it works better by itself?? Or do you think it works better if taken With Cell-tech after you work out?? Nano X9 i heard good th ings about it... But i'm not sure..
I'm thinking about Getting No Xplode too.. I have 4 months till i leave to Marine bootcamp and i have to get my pull-ups down.. thats the only reasons im taking these supplements :)
I'm up to like 8 Pullups i need about 20 in less than 4 Months.. You think this is possible with Nano X9 and Cell tech :)
Please reply soon..

MUSCLE FORTRESS
03-20-2007, 10:07 PM
No, none of these will make you fail a drug test just tell them you are taking a creatine product so they don't question if you have elivated creatinine contents in you urine. If you want a great creatine product to stack in with your Nitric oxide check out the Vaso CrEE low suger, buffered creatine and Carnosine metabolite which helps buffer lactic acid and cortisol speeds recovery perfect for repetitions whether they be bench, squat, push up or pull up get stronger as the work out progresses. But back to the drug test just be honest about what your taking and where ya got it and you won't have a problem with them. Especially if you buy it from a reputable store or site like BB.com. They are only selling the legal stuff. night
MF



Wow SizeOn.. that looks really good :)
But wont taking that kind of supplement will make me test positive for any drugs??.. matter of fact will taking Nano X9 will mak3 you do that..
Because in the marine Corp they do drug tests and maybe steroid test?... Im not saying its in the same category but maybe one of the ingredients in one of them?. hmmmmmmmm

Eyeblades
03-20-2007, 11:18 PM
I used the NO Explode a year ago or so, got it from a fitness store an acquaintance runs, and the NO Explode was pretty good once I got used to it, and my stomach got acclimated. However, after I'd run out of it & was going to order some from Bodybuilding.com, I was advised by a Bodybuilding.com staff member to try the NO Shotgun. I didn't get to use it long at first due to an injury & other nonsense which kept me out of the gym for several months.
Early February I started working out again, and began using the NO Shotgun, Universal Animal Paks, and Higher Power creatine ethyl ester (which was also recommended by the same Bodybuilding.com guy who put me onto the Shotgun). Again, my stomach had to get acclimated. I'd been out of the gym around 6 months, and hadn't lost nearly as much strength as I'd have expected, thank God. Anyhow, I've been experiencing nice, and pretty quick gains in strength, and I believe my endurance is up as well. I'm no scientist, so I cannot say with 100% certainty how much of all this is due sheerly to muscle memory, attitude, & mindset, and how much is directly tied to the supplements, but I will say that about every week lately I can up my weights and reps in most exercises.
The No Shotgun, and the Higher Power creatine ethyl ester both taste flaming awful, though. Worst tasting supplements I've EVER used! Both taste like something you'd use to make ashtrays in a ceramics class. The Shotgun is the worst tasting of the two. The creatine is just mega bitter & smells, literally, like some of the ceramics junk we made in junior high art classes. The NO Shotgun has a horrendous, sickly sweet, chemical taste & smell also reminiscent of ceramics art projects. I finally started putting drink mix powder in with the stuff to make it easier to get down.
I'm 6'1", about 230-240, and a 42 y/o 30% disability rated Army vet, and I feel like these supplements do help. I think we older, banged up guys probably need the supplements more than the young guys with their higher metabolisms and largely undamaged bodies.
By the way, thanks for your service. Keep your head down, & stay safe. Hooaahh. Get some, get some!

SlidingRPS13
03-21-2007, 08:03 AM
SuperPump250!

Ive tried Nitrix, NO-explode, EAS Nitron 5, ISS Satur8... since I started taking SuperPump250, my vascularity noticable increased.

Maxfits202
03-21-2007, 08:23 AM
White Flood(stimulants)white blood(non stimulants)

dylan9888
03-21-2007, 02:06 PM
mri no2.. Expensive and most of the claims about it are just hype like the "perpetual pump"..but got a 15 day sample anyway just to try it out..3 days into my usual workout the pump was almost painful

Jfolster
03-21-2007, 07:38 PM
Muscletech NANO X9 worked pretty good but gave me some nasty headaches. But the stuff works wonders.

DJ_Knotty
03-21-2007, 08:07 PM
well me personally, im taking

Dymatize-Expand

loving the stuff, dont feel jittery, and its fairly safe compared to most products, i just dont like the fact of the Glycocamine in it, but the betaine helps lower the levels of toxicity so, as long as there is up to 4g more then glycocamine then you should be fine

hahahaha idk, also with me and the no-explode, as some people have said i swear its like my ass exploded on the toliet about 30 mins later, and i felt way to pissed off that same night, didnt like the side effects i was getting, made me feel to jittery,

but then again every one is diff,


my gf. has a jug of no-explode that she doesnt want, she used it once and didnt like it, so if anyone wants it, im sure can give it to ya for next to nothing

Ironfreak220
03-21-2007, 08:15 PM
I have like NO-Shotgun and even the New naNO Vapor...awesome stuff!

OBeast
03-21-2007, 08:25 PM
White Flood.

lpritchard
03-22-2007, 07:05 AM
Tried NO Shotgun today for the first time. My stack before the new one was:
NO Xplode, Cellmass and Nitrix with Xtest. New stack is NO Shotgun, Cellmass and Nitrix.

NO Shotgun mixed well in water and had a strange orange/brown color. Decided to down it quick after remembering the posts about the taste. Flavor was kind of a apple metallic taste like chewing on an apple Now or Later with pennies in your mouth.

Waited 20 minutes and didnt feel the rush I did with NO Xplode but I started my workout anyway. Very suprised after my first set of squats that I felt energized but not jittery. Without the jittery feeling I finished my leg workout and went onto to rows. Blasted thru the rows with no problems still without the jittery feeling. Pumps were good although I will have to wait to give my verdict after my arm workout tomorrow morning.

If NO Shotgun can give me the same pump and energy without the shakes then Im sticking with it.

FSRecon
03-22-2007, 08:39 AM
I've tried a couple NO products but NO Explode is the best that I've come by. At first, I was shaking it up in a bottle, but my friend said stir it slowly with a spoon - What a difference it made. I don't know why, but stirring caused the product to be way more effective for me. Placebo maybe?

no thanks
03-22-2007, 09:28 AM
I've tried a couple NO products but NO Explode is the best that I've come by. At first, I was shaking it up in a bottle, but my friend said stir it slowly with a spoon - What a difference it made. I don't know why, but stirring caused the product to be way more effective for me. Placebo maybe?

it says on the container to stir and not shake.

FSRecon
03-22-2007, 09:59 AM
it says on the container to stir and not shake.
Yeah, I know... I just didn't think it would make that much of a difference. Should you stir all NO products? And why does stirring give me an extra boost? Is it just placebo or is there some science behind it?

glalime
03-22-2007, 06:27 PM
I was just reading an article on NO in muscle and fitness. They said that NO products are good to take pre WO in addition to right before bed. Obviously you wouldnt want a caffeinated NO product before bed so use caffeine free if your interested in this idea. Because we produce high levels of growth hormone within the first half hour to an hour of sleep wen u take NO it opens everything up and GH "surges" to your muscles. 5-10 grams of an NO product would effectifly do this for you according to muscle and fitness magazine.

As for the best one. Everyones talking about No explode, i havnt taken it but my roomate has and he said he loves it and apears to be getting bigger to me. The new NO2 Black claims to be 950% higher NO levels than natural levels. If anyone is taking this..how is it?

TheSilverSurfer
03-23-2007, 02:49 AM
N.O.Shotgun!

trevor1966
03-23-2007, 08:11 AM
I'm happy with Syntrax.

lpritchard
03-23-2007, 02:07 PM
Took NO Shotgun 1/2 hour before my workout. I like doing arms, chest and lats on fridays so I have the weekend to rest. Tasted a little better probably because I knew what I was in for taste wise. Started with Ez bar curls and felt the same kick I did yesterday but no shakes. Did notice that the burning sensation I get by the 2 or 3rd set came alot later which helped me power thru 4 sets. Went onto hammer curls with the same results the burning sensation came much later which helped me up my sets a bit. Arms felt very heavy but with alot less pain. Finished up my arms, pecs and lats with the same results. I have to give NO Shotgun a 10 even with the taste helped me power thru a long workout with no problems. Using todays workout as a benchmark I plan on adding more weight next week.

Steltzer
03-23-2007, 03:32 PM
hey i decided to go the same way u did with the shotgun, nitrix and cellmass. I will be starting it up tomarow and il let you know how it works for me too.

iBodybuild
03-23-2007, 05:01 PM
I would have to say no-xplode.

RoadPigJohn
03-23-2007, 06:00 PM
Nitrix No doubt about it!!!!!!!!

Ibballard
03-23-2007, 09:06 PM
Question: I decided a while back to cut out the middleman, and just started buying AAKG powder from supplements direct. What exactly is the advantage of all these mixed NO products? What is it in them in addition to the AAKG that is developing extra pump?

onedayatatime
03-23-2007, 10:29 PM
What exactley does the BSN Nitrix look like? the actual pill.. i just happened to get 180 off ebay for like 20 bucks, so i wanted to know that i got the real deal ya know ;)

KryptoKnight
03-24-2007, 10:11 AM
I plan on picking up some no-xplode but wondered if I should still supplement with creatine PWO, and on off days. I don't plan on taking no-xplode on off days since I find it kind of a waste, also the price isn't the cheapest. Would I use the same PWO shake I'm using now?

bartjsn1
03-24-2007, 10:18 AM
Bump MRI NO2

DTSalvation
03-24-2007, 05:06 PM
I just picked up the Precision Engineering "NOS" tablets from a local vitamin shop. I'm also currently using creatine ethyl ester (CE2 brand). Now, I was curious if the Precision Engineering NO2 (NOS) will be effective. I haven't heard much about it.

I was going to go the NO X-Plode route, but I believe it has Creatine Monohydrate in it as well. Can I mix the two forms of Creatine? Will this increase water weight?

It sounds confusing, maybe because it is. I just want to know what the best NO will be while using CE2.. tablet, powder, and possibly which brand.. (I was looking into NO X-Plode and NO Shotgun before picking up the PE NOS product).

Thanks in advance!

RoadPigJohn
03-24-2007, 05:37 PM
I just picked up the Precision Engineering "NOS" tablets from a local vitamin shop. I'm also currently using creatine ethyl ester (CE2 brand). Now, I was curious if the Precision Engineering NO2 (NOS) will be effective. I haven't heard much about it.

I was going to go the NO X-Plode route, but I believe it has Creatine Monohydrate in it as well. Can I mix the two forms of Creatine? Will this increase water weight?

It sounds confusing, maybe because it is. I just want to know what the best NO will be while using CE2.. tablet, powder, and possibly which brand.. (I was looking into NO X-Plode and NO Shotgun before picking up the PE NOS product).

Thanks in advance!


2 years ago I bought 2 bottle of Precision Engineering NOS in Vitamin World and from my experience that thing is just placebo, worst thing in the market!!!

I took 9 caplets per day during that period and the results were not noticeble at all, I used NITRIX and thats the real deal!!!! Veins puping out all day plus hard look......

rinehart55
03-24-2007, 07:35 PM
Bad experience recently with Biogenetix NO D2T, really bad headaches both time I used it, but on the plus side, most pump i've ever had,, nothing has compared to it, but its just way too much pump

JahMuscle
03-25-2007, 07:11 AM
One of the first supplements I took was BSN's NO-Xplode. Those first couple tubs were amazing- I experienced crazy focus and wanted to never stop working out. I had to force myself often to leave the gym to avoid overtraining. I then found out my body would slowly get used to the NO-Xplode and would become basically immune to it. Thus, I cycled off of it for a while and bought a couple of NO-Shotgun tubs. The first time I took shotgun it was amazing- I worked out for several hours and felt very similar to the energy and focus gained from No-Xplode. After that day, however, its effects pretty much diminished, even after raising the dosage. I did notice slightly more of a size gain and more vascularity, probably due to the increased amount of creatine in the proprietary blend over No-Xplode. So I just recently bought No-Xplode again, thinking my body had basically forgotten about it and would have the same effects as before. Unfortunately, it has not. Perhaps there is something in No-Shotgun that is the same as in No-xplode and my body has gotten used to it ? Either way, both products are great until you become immune to them and there mental effects are barely noticable.

ko_kidd
03-26-2007, 09:29 AM
You guys never take this stuff when doing cardio, do you?

lpritchard
03-26-2007, 09:32 AM
One of the first supplements I took was BSN's NO-Xplode. Those first couple tubs were amazing- I experienced crazy focus and wanted to never stop working out. I had to force myself often to leave the gym to avoid overtraining. I then found out my body would slowly get used to the NO-Xplode and would become basically immune to it. Thus, I cycled off of it for a while and bought a couple of NO-Shotgun tubs. The first time I took shotgun it was amazing- I worked out for several hours and felt very similar to the energy and focus gained from No-Xplode. After that day, however, its effects pretty much diminished, even after raising the dosage. I did notice slightly more of a size gain and more vascularity, probably due to the increased amount of creatine in the proprietary blend over No-Xplode. So I just recently bought No-Xplode again, thinking my body had basically forgotten about it and would have the same effects as before. Unfortunately, it has not. Perhaps there is something in No-Shotgun that is the same as in No-xplode and my body has gotten used to it ? Either way, both products are great until you become immune to them and there mental effects are barely noticable.

Thats why a break is needed from NO products, everyone knows that the human body has an excellent ability to adapt. But the main key is to keep your diet clean, get plenty of rest, drink plenty of water and train hard over a long period of time. Supplements are exactly that just an addition to what your doing right already.

lpritchard
03-26-2007, 09:34 AM
You guys never take this stuff when doing cardio, do you?

My tough cardio day is Wednesday took NO Shotgun before a 5 mile run and for the first couple of miles I felt great. About the beginning of the 3rd started to feel lightheaded, had a very rapid heartrate and very thirsty. Not sure if its the caffeine but I think Im going to skip the cardio day dosage of NO Shotgun.

ryrypiie
03-26-2007, 05:46 PM
NO shotgun ^
i used superpump 250, animal stack 2, and NO xplode

The NO-shotgun is the best so far and it has creatine in it so you donmt need to take it after you work out..i take a little anyway

if youve ever had a redline, its got redline in it
its just a reall really good product

pbarry12
03-26-2007, 07:03 PM
didnt feel much from no-xplode after two occasions, so i decided to purchase NO-Shotgun...has anybody ever tried this stuff? Good, bad, please tell me how this stuff works!!

ihollister
03-26-2007, 10:02 PM
What exactley does the BSN Nitrix look like? the actual pill.. i just happened to get 180 off ebay for like 20 bucks, so i wanted to know that i got the real deal ya know ;)
Yeah, Nitrix is a pill 3 x 3/d. I wasn't very happy with the results- it felt more like I was swallowing horse pill placebos.

cabocoleman
03-27-2007, 12:51 AM
One of the first supplements I took was BSN's NO-Xplode. Those first couple tubs were amazing- I experienced crazy focus and wanted to never stop working out. I had to force myself often to leave the gym to avoid overtraining. I then found out my body would slowly get used to the NO-Xplode and would become basically immune to it. Thus, I cycled off of it for a while and bought a couple of NO-Shotgun tubs. The first time I took shotgun it was amazing- I worked out for several hours and felt very similar to the energy and focus gained from No-Xplode. After that day, however, its effects pretty much diminished, even after raising the dosage. I did notice slightly more of a size gain and more vascularity, probably due to the increased amount of creatine in the proprietary blend over No-Xplode. So I just recently bought No-Xplode again, thinking my body had basically forgotten about it and would have the same effects as before. Unfortunately, it has not. Perhaps there is something in No-Shotgun that is the same as in No-xplode and my body has gotten used to it ? Either way, both products are great until you become immune to them and there mental effects are barely noticable.

I don't know about you but I still use NOXplode and it still gives me that pumped feeling. I gonna end NOxplode for about a month next week and try another product. I'm gonna try Gaspari's Pump.

lpritchard
03-27-2007, 11:28 AM
didnt feel much from no-xplode after two occasions, so i decided to purchase NO-Shotgun...has anybody ever tried this stuff? Good, bad, please tell me how this stuff works!!

I switched from NO X to Shotgun never going back. No jitters just focus and energy. Excellent pump and endurance. Doesnt taste as bad as people say just drink it quick at least 15 minutes b4 your workout. I stack shotgun with cellmass, nitrix and xtest

Zmcraney
03-27-2007, 02:02 PM
i'm currently takin NO Xplode and nitrix, no explode geeks me out, nixtrix really hasn't shown much difference. I'm try the animal stack next go round

mcn8
03-27-2007, 05:21 PM
I have used No Explode to great affect, SAN V12 hasnt measured up.

turtle76
03-28-2007, 02:18 AM
I'm just gettin' back into the "game". I've tried a number of different supps. And BSN has got by far the best N.O. out there in my opinion.

roxy42277
03-28-2007, 06:46 PM
so i ment to order my Nutrex Lipo 6 but silly rachel ordered Nutrex Niox extra strength...it must have been a no carb day! ha!

any hoot, how does this stuff work, im gunna play with it after my comp, its just ment for a pump and blood flow right? any one ever take this stuff befor? i love the lipo 6 so i trust this product. how will nitro benifit me off season? i know when im in a mood to see my veins i take super charge.

thanks guys
<3 rachel

TylerB
03-28-2007, 08:12 PM
i'm currently takin NO Xplode and nitrix, no explode geeks me out, nixtrix really hasn't shown much difference. I'm try the animal stack next go round

Do you ever get dizzy after a very intense workout? I have been using NO Xplode for about 2 years and almost (I say almost because it only happens on max days or when I feel really pumped up) every heavy day after a huge set, I almost lose my balance.

tunitaka50
03-28-2007, 08:41 PM
which is better

derfus
03-28-2007, 09:41 PM
Ive tried no xplode in the past and that stuff is jsut insane i love it, but as for right now im cutting and using lipo-6, a multi, and ON's protein and its working really well ive also been eating alot better also which is probably the biggest factor...i was wondering if i were to take the lipo-6's early in the morning then use no xplode before i lift(mid morning) if this would be pretty bad with all the caffeine or what? Thanks.

cabocoleman
03-28-2007, 11:28 PM
Do you ever get dizzy after a very intense workout? I have been using NO Xplode for about 2 years and almost (I say almost because it only happens on max days or when I feel really pumped up) every heavy day after a huge set, I almost lose my balance.
It is normal if you feel a little light headed after a really super intense workout. Just make sure you are well hydrated. I've worked out before that was so freakin' off the charts intense that I almost vomited. After the workout, ate, showered and an hour later I took a nice nap and felt like a million bucks a couple of hours later.

roxy42277
03-29-2007, 04:58 AM
well im taking 4 lipo 6 capsules. plus a cup of coffee plus 2 ephedrine plus other things! after all that i take a supercharge right before i work out if im sluggish....it doesn?t bother me, i guess it depends how caffeine sensitive you are! How do you like the lipo? I think it works good, then again im eating super clean to! I think it is a good assistant. To a super clean diet.



Ive tried no xplode in the past and that stuff is jsut insane i love it, but as for right now im cutting and using lipo-6, a multi, and ON's protein and its working really well ive also been eating alot better also which is probably the biggest factor...i was wondering if i were to take the lipo-6's early in the morning then use no xplode before i lift(mid morning) if this would be pretty bad with all the caffeine or what? Thanks.

TylerB
03-29-2007, 07:31 AM
It is normal if you feel a little light headed after a really super intense workout. Just make sure you are well hydrated. I've worked out before that was so freakin' off the charts intense that I almost vomited. After the workout, ate, showered and an hour later I took a nice nap and felt like a million bucks a couple of hours later.

Thats what I thought. Ive felt sick only a few times during workouts, but i have yet to throw up. I try to drink 20 oz of water every 30 minutes and I work out for 90 min 4 times a week.

Zmcraney
03-29-2007, 09:02 AM
Do you ever get dizzy after a very intense workout? I have been using NO Xplode for about 2 years and almost (I say almost because it only happens on max days or when I feel really pumped up) every heavy day after a huge set, I almost lose my balance.

Yeah Especially if i'm doing leg presses or benches. I like the pump but hate the caffeine. This is probably my eighth week on this cycle of it and it's good but I'm probably gonna try something different next cycle

derfus
03-29-2007, 09:20 AM
I'll have to add no xplode back in then i havent had any previous problems but caffeine so i should be good then, otherwise the lipo-6 is awesome ive been using it for about a week and half now and can already see some results

Steltzer
03-29-2007, 01:34 PM
i was looking at the ingredients in nitrix and no shotgun because i am stacking both of them (with cellmass too). I noticed that the nitrix and shotgun have different N-O components for example no shotgun contains AEX, Arginine ethyl ester hc and nitrix has L-Arginine Alpha Keto-Glutarate.Can these two work together??

johnwalker222
03-30-2007, 02:35 PM
nano vapor is the new king of no products.

Other companies will be rushing to replicate/copy it.

TylerB
03-30-2007, 04:15 PM
I'm actually about done with NO-xplode. I'd like to try something different, since i have been on this for 2 years now.

Also, im having a hard time finding the Creatine posts???

damonbice
03-30-2007, 08:36 PM
I have used NO-Xplode several times in the past. I have my new supply coming from BB.COM this week, and can't wait to start back up on it. I'm not sure it is the very best product out there, as I haven't tried them all. But, for the money, it is the best I have tried. After taking several months off of my workout (life got in the way!), I'm looking forward to the pump NO-Xplode offers. You actually DON'T want to stop lifting. You have to be careful about over training when you start. I like to cycle it, as it keeps the potent feeling strong!

Slam304
03-30-2007, 08:52 PM
I've never used a Nitroc Oxide and I'm leaning toward SuperPump 250. Any suggestions to what I can stack it with?

madkau
03-30-2007, 10:07 PM
I heard it was pretty strong. Try it out alone first to see how you react.

Creatine would be the best. NO helps transport the creatine into your system. Perhaps glutamine too.

johnwalker222
03-31-2007, 04:55 PM
NO limits by designer supps is awful. It doesn't do anything.

dvsness
03-31-2007, 05:29 PM
nano vapor is the new king of no products.

Other companies will be rushing to replicate/copy it.


NO limits by designer supps is awful. It doesn't do anything.

When will you be done with your MT shill/bash DS cycle? How are the gains?

Juan+Lujan
03-31-2007, 07:54 PM
I bought both Xyince and Ultimate orang is that ok to take together?
And I have been taking Testostrone, is it true it shrinks your balls?

What do you suggest taking? I love the boost from ultimate orange but it doesnt have all the ingridients of Xyience. Plus my bench has went up 30lbs in a month with taking the Xyience, testostrone combo.

nytewulf
03-31-2007, 08:06 PM
I've had pretty good experiences with most NO2 products but I favor NO3 Overload and No-Xplode

RobNyc
03-31-2007, 10:34 PM
I've been hearing too much about this BSN brand NO-Xplode and Cell-Mass.
Actually my uncle gave me a jar of Cell-Tech a week ago and thats what I started using now after a vacation. I noticed he has 2 jars of No-Xplode in his house. This guy is 42yrs old 6'1 1/2 245lbs . he told me he just bought that to give him more energy haha you need more energy you monster i told him lol.

But yea I guess I will have to go with this. Even though its pretty damn expensive.

northbiker
04-01-2007, 05:16 AM
I usually workout an hour after I wake up and feel very hungry so should I take NO EXPLODE and wait till 15 mins and then eat something......

dvsness
04-01-2007, 05:52 AM
The best NO products I've used were Superpump, NitroFire, Driven and Surge.

*Zeus*
04-01-2007, 12:31 PM
Do you ever get dizzy after a very intense workout? I have been using NO Xplode for about 2 years and almost (I say almost because it only happens on max days or when I feel really pumped up) every heavy day after a huge set, I almost lose my balance.

I think the lightheadedness effect results from the vasodilation of the blood vessells. Just like when your in a sauna for a long time, heat acts like a vasodillator as well. But yeah, it normal. I feel the same way somtimes. Just rest for a little and catch your breath.

tommygunzzz
04-01-2007, 05:22 PM
has ANYONE tried naNO vapor yet? if so.. does the stuff work as well as it's hyped to?

markoh
04-01-2007, 07:54 PM
Do you ever get dizzy after a very intense workout? I have been using NO Xplode for about 2 years and almost (I say almost because it only happens on max days or when I feel really pumped up) every heavy day after a huge set, I almost lose my balance.

yep, that's sounds right. i can't stand no explode anymore. i've switched to animal pump/m-stack...

nytewulf
04-01-2007, 09:46 PM
I think the lightheadedness effect results from the vasodilation of the blood vessells. Just like when your in a sauna for a long time, heat acts like a vasodillator as well. But yeah, it normal. I feel the same way somtimes. Just rest for a little and catch your breath.

Possibly...when I first started training YEARS ago I used to get dizzy spells real bad. Had some blood work done and found out I was "borderline" hypo glycemic. As long as I have a snack in my bag I'm good to go.

Samihassan
04-02-2007, 12:15 AM
No2 is awesome

tyrtl
04-02-2007, 08:13 AM
NO X is awesome, I am loving it right now. I got dizzy spells when I first started taking this but I no longer have them.
I would recommend it.

Newman07
04-02-2007, 06:26 PM
Vaso flow by san is the ****. Arms are all veined up. Stacked with san vault pretty good stack except for vault taste like **** almost like old caugh medicine. I would take it again if it didnt tast so bad. Will be taking vaso flow again though good ****. Might try shotgun or labrada next

Steltzer
04-03-2007, 08:01 AM
anyone try n02 black yet?

Gaffigan
04-03-2007, 08:22 AM
Good ol' N.O.-Xplode gets the job done for me! Big Ron uses the right stuff ...

dinkey
04-03-2007, 09:41 AM
BSN NO-Xplode by far!

geeman
04-03-2007, 10:04 AM
VasoXplode! crushes them all and yummy too!

G

E.G.P
04-03-2007, 11:15 AM
I would have to say BSN NO-Xplode. its awesome i can almost feel the blood stay in my muscles longer. And the energy and explosive power it gives me its beyond crazy awesome. I love it.

dvsness
04-03-2007, 11:23 AM
VasoXplode! crushes them all and yummy too!

G

Forgot that one! Revised list:

SP250
Nitro Fire
Driven
VasoXplode
NO Surge

ThatArmyKid
04-03-2007, 01:21 PM
NO products are a scam and they do not work, the only reason people thing they work are becuase of the creatine and caffeine. NO products without creatine or caffeine don't do anything. Just buy creatine and caffeine it is much cheaper

but will caffine and creatine give you a pump lasting more then 24hours

ItTakesTime
04-03-2007, 01:24 PM
I have been using NO products and they are OK, I am going to go to just creatine soon and drop the NO products.

ItTakesTime
04-03-2007, 01:25 PM
BTW, superpump still reigns supreme. Over NO-Explode at least, imho.

1cbtengr78
04-03-2007, 06:40 PM
I am currently taking NO Xplode BSN and it has helped some. I weight train and conduct cardio, each three times per week and BSN seems to help. Effects seem to be wearing off as my body is adjusting to it though. Not sure.

Dragul69
04-04-2007, 05:36 AM
The Best NO in my opinion is Muscle Nitrous by VPX.
That is the one that has worked best for me...
I Have Stacked Muscle Nitrous (Concentrated Liquid)...
Redline Liquid Caps...and CEX Liquid Caps in the past...
With awesome strength and stamina results.

I have been lurking to find some new supps to cycle, haven't yet.
But at the gym I go to they sell the drinks
Liquid Redline and Pump both by VPX...and I have gotten similar results!

Just to stay on topic Muscle Nitrous worked best for me...
I am going to try NO-SHOTGUN by VPX for my next order...
Just because their original MN worked so well for me.

VPX is a little more expensive, but for me it works and so it is worth it! :)

ThatArmyKid
04-04-2007, 03:31 PM
I did my research and i'm getting that it sounds great, has good reviews and no one conplains about it making them **** their pants o and people say they get nice energy from it

do you guys think im making the right choice

dvsness
04-04-2007, 04:41 PM
I did my research and i'm getting that it sounds great, has good reviews and no one conplains about it making them **** their pants o and people say they get nice energy from it

do you guys think im making the right choice

No. I think supplements are for 18+. ;)

TylerB
04-04-2007, 05:01 PM
Alright I have been searching and lurking for a while looking for some good creatine, NO, and other stack supplements. This is what i have concluded on for my next stack here very soon...

Controlled Labs Green Magnitude
Glutamine (Whatever I can find that's cheap)
BSN No-Xplode (Not a HUGE fan, but I can feel it working)
Multi's (Mega Men)
ON 100% Whey (Love the BCAA content and tastes great)
Champion 100% Whey (Got it cheap and use it as a filler)

let me know what you all think. Im open for critizism.

BB2K
04-04-2007, 05:01 PM
No. I think supplements are for 18+. ;)

I 2nd that.

I wouldnt touch a NO product at 18 or really at any age. I honestly feel they dont do crap for ya.

pintado
04-04-2007, 05:45 PM
i would have to say VPX NO Shotgun. ive tried NO xplode and it worked well, but NO Shotgun gives me more focus and better pumps.

bodybuilder25
04-04-2007, 06:04 PM
I am using BSN NO Explode right now which I love but I also made some crazy pumps with Muscletech Leukic.

dblanks
04-04-2007, 11:58 PM
MRI's NO2 Platinum. I've been using their product ever since it came to market several years ago and I really love it. However, I don't really see a difference between the Regular, the Platinum, or the Black.

skeezy3
04-05-2007, 02:45 PM
I have been on Nitrix for about four weeks and really haven't felt anything!!!!
i tried the NO Xplode and the only thing that Xploded was my stomach, everytime i drank it, it was like a laxitive, and i followed the directions. I only mixed one scoop with 6ozs of water. I was not please with BSN products, i did enjoy the samples of the protein they sent, it all tasted good.

Big_Tom(tk)
04-05-2007, 04:41 PM
N.O. LIMITS

johnwalker222
04-05-2007, 05:11 PM
NO Limits is horrible. It's overpriced and junky. Do you work for DS or something?

Stubbs928
04-05-2007, 07:49 PM
NO Limits is horrible. It's overpriced and junky. Do you work for DS or something?

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g97/Tabar03/not_this_****_again.jpg


I really like White Flood. It gives me a nice smooth boost of energy and huge pumps

Wildman77
04-05-2007, 09:56 PM
I think that SuperPump 250 is the best NO product that I have tried. I get much harder pumps than say with NO-Explode, not that it's a bad product but I want the most for my money and the 250 works best for me.

Samihassan
04-05-2007, 10:32 PM
NO Limits is horrible. It's overpriced and junky. Do you work for DS or something?

No2......

freddy kruger
04-06-2007, 12:20 AM
got some no-explode a few days ago. ive had it twice so far and ive felt it kick in. great stuff. should i stack it with nitrix?

cabocoleman
04-06-2007, 12:35 AM
NO products are a scam and they do not work, the only reason people thing they work are becuase of the creatine and caffeine. NO products without creatine or caffeine don't do anything. Just buy creatine and caffeine it is much cheaper

NO...Nitric Oxide products main ingredient that causes the increase of nitric oxide production is Arginine. The pump and the vascularity you get from taking any NO product comes from the ingredient Arginine not creatine or caffeine. The theory behind NO is because it expands the blood channels which allows more oxygen and nutrients to be transported into your muscles faster which leads to faster recovery and overall muscle growth.

mudbloodpothead
04-06-2007, 04:24 AM
I was just reading about NO-Xplode and was wondering is it really safe to use it?

The description of it at the Shop webpage seems a little somewhat hardcore.Hahaha. I`ve never taken NO before and I was wondering what should I start with.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

enrii
04-06-2007, 07:37 AM
I am about to start a stack and wanteddd to no about CMI's Red Cell and VPX- AEX..as well as BSN-nitrix...please let me know what you guys think of these products...mostly CMI and VPX because everyone seems to use BSN

RobNyc
04-06-2007, 11:06 AM
I want to start a stack also,

is Green Mag , No-Xplode , SuperPump 250 the samething?

dvsness
04-06-2007, 11:39 AM
I want to start a stack also,

is Green Mag , No-Xplode , SuperPump 250 the samething?

Green Mag is creatine. Read the labels. ;)

RobNyc
04-06-2007, 12:02 PM
Green Mag is creatine. Read the labels. ;)

Thanks :-P (Sorry) so many names and products lol.

I guess I've decided to put aside the BSN Products too expensive for me at this point. Let's see if the GreenMag price is worth it per servings . How about Shock Therapy thats suppose to work like No-Xplode right?

ThatArmyKid
04-07-2007, 10:50 AM
No. I think supplements are for 18+. ;)

im older then you hushhhhh

transmission
04-07-2007, 05:14 PM
i have olny used bsn-noxplode,lg cold fusion,& super pump
liked super pump best cold fusion worked good to
dont care to much for bsn have tryed 4 diff products fron them
nether very effictive.

mtrain354
04-07-2007, 06:06 PM
I've been using SuperPump250 for a while now. After I take that stuff I sometimes feel like I wanna hurt somebody. So intense.

Steltzer
04-08-2007, 08:40 AM
just a question i have been using no xplode and cellmass for amost 2 months usually dont take it on the weekends and i also took nitrix for only 1 month (couldnt afford it earlier) now i am out of nitrix and got no2 black as a present. My question is before i start up no2 black should i take a break like a cycle or can i immediently start it up ?

dvsness
04-08-2007, 08:47 AM
im older then you hushhhhh

Your profile says 16.

DieHollywoodDie
04-08-2007, 10:42 AM
NO products do not work. read the t-nation article.

LamboEater
04-08-2007, 05:57 PM
i was going to stack no explode, nitrix and and cellmass. anyone ever tried it? what were your results?

Supermike02777
04-08-2007, 10:59 PM
Yes.. I just bought Nano Vapor 3 days ago and still waiting for it's hype?
garbage!

ossizen
04-09-2007, 05:34 AM
Of the NO product's I've tried thus far, I think NO Monster is the best one for me. Good pumps. :)

Whitey88
04-09-2007, 10:22 AM
ive been using super pump 250 for about a week and i love the effect, however it gives me the worst diareaha you could ever imagine...so now i dont know what to do with the stuff

any opinions on endorush over redline (which ones better)???

woofman81
04-09-2007, 10:40 AM
ive been using super pump 250 for about a week and i love the effect, however it gives me the worst diareaha you could ever imagine...so now i dont know what to do with the stuff

any opinions on endorush over redline (which ones better)???

Sell it to me :)

ItTakesTime
04-09-2007, 11:18 AM
Of the NO product's I've tried thus far, I think NO Monster is the best one for me. Good pumps. :)

Are you taking the superpump on an empty stomach? I do and it works fine, maybe if you take it with a meal that is not a good idea.

ItTakesTime
04-09-2007, 11:19 AM
Sell it to me :)

Its amazing, no need to sell it to you, just read most of the posts about it. It works very well, I have tried no-xplode and superpump is without a doubt the more superior product.

woofman81
04-09-2007, 11:28 AM
Its amazing, no need to sell it to you, just read most of the posts about it. It works very well, I have tried no-xplode and superpump is without a doubt the more superior product.

I couldn't agree more. NO Explode has done nothing for me. Superpump all the way.

xDerekx
04-09-2007, 02:47 PM
i would try to stear away from an NO supp that has caffiene in it. such as no-xplode, once the caffiene high wheres off you usually dont get the same effect with the product. N-gorge is a decent no/creatine supp for about $40 a month.

Whitey88
04-09-2007, 03:15 PM
Are you taking the superpump on an empty stomach? I do and it works fine, maybe if you take it with a meal that is not a good idea.


so ur saying that i SHOULD take super pump on an empty stomach?
all i know is i get some different color ****s and i cant take it anymore.

Oldman04g
04-09-2007, 03:47 PM
i used No2 and NO xplode while working out and i think that the xplode provides a better pump and recovery time i would recommend that product to anyone asking

Geoff_Saari
04-09-2007, 07:36 PM
Fast Twitch and Shock Therapy are great , cant say the same about NO Xplode..

Shane_O
04-09-2007, 08:55 PM
Gaspari nutrition Super pump 250 works well for me. Noxplode didn't do it for me the second time round

tommygunzzz
04-10-2007, 09:54 AM
so ur saying that i SHOULD take super pump on an empty stomach?
all i know is i get some different color ****s and i cant take it anymore.

try eating a something small before taking it.. if that doesn't work then start with a single scoop or even less, and progress by no more than a half scoop per day until you get to your desired serving. Hopefully you wont have any more runs to the bathroom

TheDukeUSMC
04-10-2007, 12:49 PM
I got the new NO Xplode that comes in the "Starter Kit". The lemon lime flavor is really really good

Macktastic C
04-10-2007, 02:37 PM
I've used NO-Explode several times in the past and loved it each time. I just bought another bottle recently along with sp250 so that i could compare them from one workout to the next.

dropshot001
04-11-2007, 09:27 AM
get diesel nos precursor delivers some wicked pumps. when stacked with some sort of creatine product and a possibly an energy booster the workouts are awesome.

glalime
04-11-2007, 09:31 PM
i just ordered cytosport's fast twitch after hearing some good reviews. i got the caffeine free because in addition to preworkout im going to take a serving before bed to maximise GH flow. I'll post back in a couple weeks for review.

DezertMobbin
04-12-2007, 12:27 PM
I've taken NO-Xplode as my first NO supplement and noticed increased pumps and more energy through my workout. when that supply ran out my local nutrishop reccomended shock therapy they said it was stronger, and i've had no compaints about it. The pumps are good and i'm always amped to get in the gym and go hard. Does everyone take these on empty stomachs? the NO xplode would say to do that but i remember the first time i took shock therapy, i took 3 scoops and a bit into my work out i broke into a deep sweat and started feeling like i was going to get sick/ pass out. But after that one time i've never experienced it again.

dsheola
04-12-2007, 03:35 PM
please no one say NaNOX9
I took it as the instructions said and in 9 seconds i felt... exactly the same.
18 27 36 seconds later... no effects. 36 minutes later... still nothing.. BSN's NOExplode is the best NO product out there hands down

DDD619
04-12-2007, 03:52 PM
I've been using SuperPump250 for a while now. After I take that stuff I sometimes feel like I wanna hurt somebody. So intense.

AHAHAHAHAHA. Yikes. I have tried a sample of this stuff. Tasted pretty horrible got wired outta my brains though. Then had a "valentino" creatine like blast soon. lol. NO xplode was good for me, expensive though. ISS Satur8 was also a good NO I've used. I just recently bought Storm and Shock Therapy. Im really hoping this will be an NO xplode but cheaper.

frankie328
04-12-2007, 04:50 PM
I tried NO explode did not feel any different. Xience no difference. What no one mentioned was hypershock. I tried this once before and actually decided to go back. Any reasons why no one uses hypershock?

panzerman
04-12-2007, 10:03 PM
Anyone tried NO SHotgun? I was using NO Xplode but on advice from BBC tried NO SHotgun. It seems to work as well as NO Xplode without the shakes NO Xplode gave me. Anyone else?

RunInFear
04-13-2007, 01:17 AM
please no one say NaNOX9
I took it as the instructions said and in 9 seconds i felt... exactly the same.
18 27 36 seconds later... no effects. 36 minutes later... still nothing.. BSN's NOExplode is the best NO product out there hands down

lol 2 completely diff products. One is meant purely for vascularity, the other for a pre workout stimulant. Although it does have a good arginine matrix and a readily absorbed creatine the amount of caffeine provided in no-xplode is outlandish. It takes a good while before seeing any affects from a vasodilator. I am not saying NANO is the ****, but there is a big difference in my opinion

My Top pick for purely vascularity would be the original, ORIGINAL "N.O." supplement No2 by mri. Ive tried the rest and this is still the best ;-]

Dragul69
04-13-2007, 06:45 AM
Anyone tried NO SHotgun? I was using NO Xplode but on advice from BBC tried NO SHotgun. It seems to work as well as NO Xplode without the shakes NO Xplode gave me. Anyone else?

I am a HUGE VPX fan....
At one point a couple years back...
I was taking VPX: CEX Liquid Caps, Muscle Nitrous (Concentrated Liquid), & Redline Liquid Caps...For A Pre-Workout Stack!!!
FOR ME IT WAS UNREAL!!!
GREAT PUMPS, GREAT SUSTAINED ENERGY, STRENGTH, ENDURANCE.... SWEATING LIKE CRAZY!!!

More recently I have not really been using supplements, because I have been doing more cardio than lifting, to lose weight.

Last week I started to really get serious with The Irons Again!!!
I started the week off at the gym, with VPX REDLINE LIQUID AND AEX PUMP (In the plastic cans)!!!
While I was waiting for my order of NO-SHOTGUN to come in...
Felt GREAT during my workouts, lots of energy, strength, and endurance, with the REDLINE LIQUID AND AEX PUMP LIQUID, I did not want to leave the gym last week!

NOW with all that said, I have used the NO-SHOTGUN this week for the past three workouts, and have been somewhat dissapointed!
Now it says to mix One-Scoop with water, and not to exceed One and a half scoops at one time! I have been using One-Scoop!
I am going to try to up it to One and a half today, and if that doesn't seem to improve my results, do I dare try 2 scoops?

If I am unhappy with the results, i will just go back to my CEX,REDLINE,PUMP stack, which KICKS ASS for me, and has worked the best for me, out of many different products I have tried!

devin45k
04-13-2007, 08:32 PM
Huge fan of GAT Nitric Suspension....Gives me painful pumps, seriously.

I have been thinking about switching to this product.

mctrantula
04-15-2007, 07:44 AM
I currently take kaffience kicks before my work out and was considering purchasing a new creatine product!

I dunno whether to go for bsn no xplode or vpn no shotgun?

Ive heard alot of people say on this forum no xplode doesnt work after a week and some peole say it does but shotgun is alot better because xplode contains mainly kaffiene and you have to mix it with another creatine?

which ones better?

EKquiksilver
04-15-2007, 08:01 AM
this stuff is pretty basic, but do u think it works like other nitric oxide? http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/met/nitro.html

devin45k
04-15-2007, 05:22 PM
this stuff is pretty basic, but do u think it works like other nitric oxide? http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/met/nitro.html

Metrx is a decent brand

jrod8701
04-16-2007, 08:04 AM
I love NO-Xplode, but it gives me crazy gas and I feel bloated all day after I take it. But it works. I want to try something different. But I want something that is not going to make me go caffeine crazy, like NO Xplode will. I want something I can take with another caffeine product! Will SuperPump 250 work?

Maxfits202
04-16-2007, 08:21 AM
it sounds like you need an NO product that doesnt have caffeine in it so that you can stack it with another caffeine product like you said. if your already taking caffeine i thin superpump would be too much. i would go with controlled labs White BLOOD, its a greatNO product without caffeine. if you still want caffeine in it go with White FLOOD thats what i use

BigMac71
04-16-2007, 09:11 AM
I have tried so many of the NO products I wake up in the middle of the night screaming, "NO,NO,NO". Seriously though, Anadrox has given me the best results. I started this along with the P90 workout routine and I can honestly say I have NEVER felt more of an intense pump or this much energy in quite some time. I actively workout four to five times a week and have done so for the last five to six years. Always wanted to add as much LMM as I could and I did. Once I got to where I almost wanted I did not like how I could not even scratch by back if it itched or how I breathed hard when doing normal activities. So, I decided to lose some of the weight and LMM; to much CAN be a bad thing and since I am not a pro competitor I do not need to carry SO much muscle. I thought the two together (Anadrox/P90) would be beneficial but had no idea just HOW much. Already in the last two and a half weeks I have dropped 9 pounds and can already see results from combining the two.

Superpump,No Explode, and others did nothing for me except give the illusion something was happening. Was it the shakes/jitters or the shiots that I hated most.....ummmm......both and that is all I got from these two products. Also with NOExplode I got a really bad attitude and snapped at the smallest thing. Not to good for those that are married or have children (another reason I returned this crap). I am sure some of you think I am selling this stuff by the way I am speaking about it but I am not in any way. I did the chest/back workout and I have not been this sore in a long time. Doing corncob pull ups,towel pull ups, and so many push ups I thought I was going to die was ALOT harder than benching my max or squatting my max BY FAR!! I am sure you all have your own witches brew that works but try these 2 together and I believe you will be blown away. Cheers.

Dragul69
04-16-2007, 09:23 AM
Just to follow up on my NO-SHOTGUN trial....

I upped the dose to 1-1/2 scoops....
Made me sick to my stomach....and could not wait to leave the gym!!! :(

I will just go back to my Muscle Nitrous/Redline Stack! :)

History in Effect
04-16-2007, 10:38 AM
offered no benefits of any kind to my routine. Gakic works, but nano X-9 does not work at all. Universal's Natural Sterol Complex worked better and I got it for like 15 dollars.anyway, have yall heard of MuscleTech's new NaNO Vapor

SycG
04-16-2007, 08:42 PM
I have used Nitrix, NO Explode, and Nano x9 and to me the best one was NO Explode. I have amazing workouts on it. The pumps I get are pretty good, I also feel a lot more concentrated on lifting when I take it. NOt to mention that my veins blow up. The only thing Nitrix did for me was increase vascularity but no amazing workouts or any strength benefits. Nano for me works alright. As with pretty much every NO my veins looked huge and I had veins pop out that usually don't. And although I was never really stronger I felt like I had better workouts while on the Nano but not quite as good as the NO explode.

paulharb
04-17-2007, 08:55 AM
I've used MRI's NO2, Nitrix, and White Blood. I noticed more of an effect with Nitrix than with No2, but that might be because I had been taking No2 for about amonth before I switched to Nitrix...so the arginine aakg was already built up in my system. I didn't realize how much these products worked until I stopped taking them...with them I could do 12-15 reps on the first set, take a one-min break and then do nearly the same number of reps again with the same weight, and continue through all my sets. Without them I would do, for example, 15 reps the first set, 12 reps the second set, 10 on the third, etc. I think they def. help your endurance as well as increase pumps and vascularity...now I'm taking White Blood and it's working well, plus you don't have to take as much of it as the other NO products.

KennedyStephens
04-17-2007, 11:03 AM
I have been taking Nitrix.. for about 3 weeks now, and I am not going to lie, I do notice some pump, and a little more push at during, but the longevity (not there) and realistically, my friend is taking NO-Explode and some Cytogainer and he's been a monster in the gym.. So I am starting to think I am gonna hop on that NO-Ex.. Any other good ideas ?

Indianblade13
04-17-2007, 12:46 PM
L-arganine, works great for me, better than any patent supplements

jsiami01
04-17-2007, 01:14 PM
I've got an Idea... If you take another NO2 supplement and it doesn't "feel" as good. Just add some 200mg of caffeine, and then you'll see why NO2 feels good. Personally, I like to regulate my caffeine, rather than trust BSN to put a safe amount in there. They're not selling safety, they're selling what will make people think they're getting jacked. And btw the "focus" you feel... caffeine also. Just drink a red bull before you lift and take a reliable NO2 product with it (if one exists).

TheBigRigatoni
04-17-2007, 06:21 PM
I've got an Idea... If you take another NO2 supplement and it doesn't "feel" as good. Just add some 200mg of caffeine, and then you'll see why NO2 feels good. Personally, I like to regulate my caffeine, rather than trust BSN to put a safe amount in there. They're not selling safety, they're selling what will make people think they're getting jacked. And btw the "focus" you feel... caffeine also. Just drink a red bull before you lift and take a reliable NO2 product with it (if one exists).

have any of you tried VasoXplode? I'm on my second day of it, and gives great pumps. I see alot about NO Explode and SuperPump. I think when it comes down to it, it's personal preference and how your body reacts to it. I'm sure i might change to NO Xplode or SuperPump. See how thing work out with VasoXplode. Also I hear Primal N20 is another good product. Any feed back on VasoXplode would be great.
Thanks

anthony_b
04-18-2007, 11:45 AM
I've been using NO-X for a month now and have noticed an increase in workout duration, pumps and strength. I usually workout at night after a long day at work, so I need that push to get me to the gym. Ever since I started taking this stuff I'm more excited about my workouts and how far I can go.

I've been working out on and off since since the early 90's and I haven't seen so many gains since I started taking PHOSPHAGEN by EAS back in 1991!!!...Remember that ?

mickeyavalon
04-18-2007, 07:52 PM
the best NO out there is hands down: SuperPump 250. This stuff is like a miracle. Strength and size sky rocket after every use and workout. I compared it to all other NO out there as well. I read alot about all of them and none seem capable of SuperPump 250 results.

soo true. i couldnt imagine training without it

sevnofspades
04-19-2007, 05:01 AM
was a religious NO X user, but it gave me horrible, grounds for a divorce, gas. The type you can taste in the air. My wife loves redline, but it has almost sent me into anxiety attacks. I will have to give superpump250 a try. seems most people love it.

bryce21
04-19-2007, 07:29 PM
anyone got any read up on wtf pump'd? yet i know its new but anyone like it at all?

dropshot001
04-19-2007, 08:37 PM
anadrox and no shotgun are awesome for no products.

Toumuch
04-19-2007, 10:06 PM
NO Xplode is a great product, but to me it doesn't help me on my bench as much as the Vyo-tech Nitrobolic Extreme.. They both taste bitter to me, but I would have to choose the Vyo-tech Nitrobolic Extreme over NO Xplode because of the gains I get from it than No Xplode.

headmont
04-19-2007, 11:00 PM
I stacked N.O. explode and nitrix and axis ht all from bsn and tore it the **** up in the gym. gains pumps energy an recovery.

uhockey
04-20-2007, 02:11 AM
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CONTROLLED LABS
04-20-2007, 05:35 AM
it sounds like you need an NO product that doesnt have caffeine in it so that you can stack it with another caffeine product like you said. if your already taking caffeine i thin superpump would be too much. i would go with controlled labs White BLOOD, its a greatNO product without caffeine. if you still want caffeine in it go with White FLOOD thats what i use

yup, tons of logs on white flood now, the feedback has been amazing

cy6ex
04-20-2007, 07:44 AM
The only NO product i've tried to date is NoXplode which is great. I got Ergopharm AMP, Green Bulge with White Blood coming my way hopefully next week.

Can't wait to try them out.

Nick_04
04-20-2007, 02:03 PM
Has any one tried MUSCLETECH NITROTECH if so how does this compare to superpump250 and N0-Explode?

claudio_rdgz
04-20-2007, 05:26 PM
Has any one tried MUSCLETECH NITROTECH if so how does this compare to superpump250 and N0-Explode?

Nitrotech is protein man, though it contains arginine it is not created for that purpose. Muscletech has NANOx9 which i've been referred as a good supplement and thanks to it I discovered some new veins.

Superpump is a good supplement though and No Explode is also really good, but they are kind of expensive, just add creatine some kool-aid and take some arginine pills with it and see how it works. Remember to eat tons of chicken

Geoff_Saari
04-20-2007, 10:09 PM
Whats NO Shotgun taste like ? I want some feeback before buying . Thanks

Indringa
04-21-2007, 01:43 AM
Whats NO Shotgun taste like ? I want some feeback before buying . Thanks

Kind of like bananas, apples, and cinnamon mixed together, but with a diluted taste.

time4change715
04-21-2007, 08:04 AM
BIgBuffedWolf I have to agree wit you totally on that, NO Explode kicks booty. To me this is the All American, All Around best product....what other products do you use or recommend.

captainnucare7
04-21-2007, 09:59 AM
fast twitch is pretty good

headmont
04-21-2007, 11:37 AM
whats up my hardcore brothers!

headmont
04-21-2007, 11:39 AM
Kind of like bananas, apples, and cinnamon mixed together, but with a diluted taste.
no shotgun is weak. no explode kicks ass!

mic3fan
04-21-2007, 12:04 PM
Yeah NO-Xplode is the ****..... its been out for a while and still cant be beat

uhockey
04-21-2007, 03:03 PM
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monsterwarrior
04-21-2007, 03:44 PM
Whats NO Shotgun taste like ? I want some feeback before buying . Thanks

NO Shotgun tastes aweful.... i almost puked when i tried to drink it

ncangey0513
04-21-2007, 05:58 PM
BIgBuffedWolf I have to agree wit you totally on that, NO Explode kicks booty. To me this is the All American, All Around best product....what other products do you use or recommend.

Yeah NO-Xplode is the ****..... its been out for a while and still cant be beat

I disagree. I'd take SP250, White FLOOD, or even Shock Therapy over NO-Xplode.

Sheathofthemind
04-22-2007, 05:33 PM
I've recently started taking no-explode and noticed a good difference in my bench. my question is ( though i has allready probably been asked) can someone list the products that are the same as 1) No-explode 2) cell mass

I have heard GREAT things about cell mass, and want to know if its the best thing to be taking.

Mo34Hockey
04-22-2007, 06:50 PM
i'm currently using

Shock Therapy which is like NO-Xplode
and Storm which is like Cellmass, both are by Universal, have much more servings for a better price and work just as well if not better


My friend recently started the controlled labs stack of White Flood (like NO-Xplode) and Green Magnitude (like Cellmass) and loves it, and from the logs i have read on it i am going to try it next

NO-Xplode and Cellmass are good products, but are wayyy overpriced for the serving size you get and Universals Shock Therapy and Storm, and Controlled Labs White Flood and Green Magnitude are better all around consumer friendly products.

NicktheStick
04-23-2007, 04:21 PM
I took 2 scoops on an empty stomach before heading to the gym. I didn't notice an above average pump, at least nothing more than I was getting with straight creatine. But the energy the stuff gives you is amazing, I definitley had much more endurance than ususal. I was working on my chest, and It took a lot to burn out, normally if I go heavy on bench, i'll have to back off a little when I do incline dumbell presses...not today, definitley went heavy every set. Good stuff its worth a try I think the BSN website offers a free trial.

un19
04-23-2007, 05:28 PM
i use nitrix and no xplode


same here, I love nitrix it actually works, the only part that sucks is 3 pills 3 times a day, and the 1st week loading phase otherwise it's a great product.

wakeboardone
04-24-2007, 11:16 AM
n.o.explode really doesn't do much for me.. I tried two cycles of it, and really didn't notice much of a difference (no difference energywise). Maybe I'm just immune to caffeine. I've stopped buying it.

I am still using nitrix (and cellmass), and am pleased with them other than the price

mdflows
04-24-2007, 11:37 AM
n.o.explode really doesn't do much for me.. I tried two cycles of it, and really didn't notice much of a difference (no difference energywise). Maybe I'm just immune to caffeine. I've stopped buying it.

I am still using nitrix (and cellmass), and am pleased with them other than the price

www.vitamindeal.com and www.****************** have great prices for supps including the BSN products.

Nick_04
04-24-2007, 12:09 PM
ok whoever says that superpump250 gives you the runs are pussies. im taking superpump250 and i dont get any kind of a stomache ache. btw does anyone get the jitters from this stuff when you first took it? Or feel a great source of energy?

stoobz
04-24-2007, 01:19 PM
no2 black. pretty new on the market but a great product.

uhockey
04-24-2007, 02:41 PM
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BluSilver
04-24-2007, 05:57 PM
VasoXplode is treating me well, but it looks like I may have to give NO limits a run here soon. I'm into it more for performance enhancement than the pump I guess, which is why I'm liking VasoXplode so much.

Sixpack
04-24-2007, 06:13 PM
I agree, Vaso is great and I will be doing an unsponsored NO LIMITS log in about 2 weeks


VasoXplode is treating me well, but it looks like I may have to give NO limits a run here soon. I'm into it more for performance enhancement than the pump I guess, which is why I'm liking VasoXplode so much.

grapemaster
04-24-2007, 06:35 PM
is there something like bsn without all the stims...? i'm still not sure no is even more than a vanity supp.

BluSilver
04-24-2007, 06:46 PM
is there something like bsn without all the stims...? i'm still not sure no is even more than a vanity supp.

I agree for the most part. But 90% of people are vain as well haha.

msoli
04-24-2007, 07:37 PM
arginine supplementation causes vascular dialation, so why pay 40 bucks for a 30 day supply of no explode or whatever when you can get a pound of pure arginine for half the price. and that will last you at least twice as long. mix with creatine and your good to go.

Samihassan
04-24-2007, 07:40 PM
no2 rules!!!!!1

cabby90
04-24-2007, 09:38 PM
Ive been using no explode on and off for about 3 mos and before i used to use it also this stuff is awsome of coarse u cant live on it but as a pre work out igniter its by far the best it kicks in like maybe 30 min after intake and the focuz and strength is amazing it is somwhat dangerous but get on it and get off for like a month then get back on again i love this stuff ive tried fruit punch and grape and lemon lime so far fruit puch is better but im trying blue rasberry next.

uhockey
04-25-2007, 02:34 AM
VasoXplode is treating me well, but it looks like I may have to give NO limits a run here soon. I'm into it more for performance enhancement than the pump I guess, which is why I'm liking VasoXplode so much.


I agree, Vaso is great and I will be doing an unsponsored NO LIMITS log in about 2 weeks

Very cool. Will GLADLY follow, just link me! :)

vvt-inside
04-25-2007, 11:23 AM
Ive used No-xplode, Supercharge, superpump250 No3 overload and Noshotgun. I liked the pump i recieved from no-xplode but it wasnt worth the crash afterwards doing 3 scoops. Supercharge worked REALLY good but wore off after 2 bottles, superpump made me fart alot while in the gym, no3 overload was kickass but the pills took a little longer to take effect, No-shotgun was by far the best, sick pumps good strength gain from it but damn that taste was bad i ended mixing it up with a small amout of minute maid fruit punch and its not as bad anymore. Nitrix and Redcell both worked well also but 9 pills a day wasnt cutting it anymore.

dvsness
04-25-2007, 11:41 AM
Nitro Fire FTW!!

Sixpack
04-26-2007, 03:28 AM
U got it Mike


Very cool. Will GLADLY follow, just link me! :)

dinkey
04-26-2007, 08:30 AM
bsn NO-Explode is making me sick!!! i got it and took it 1 week and found it great and it got to work straight away-but i have the grape flavour and it is making me sick every time i see it and get the smell......

any suggestions ???

lilboyblue
04-26-2007, 08:33 AM
Does marketing really make peple thing NO-Explode or even comparable to other high end products like SuperPump 250, VasoXplode and NO-Shotgun? I am looking at a lab test as I write this. Check out www.****************.com I will be posting more of their results soon. Cell Mass contained 0gms. of Creatine Ethyl Ester and 1.2gm/serving of Creatine Monohydrate. Nice! The lab tests are posted on the board. Please do come take a gander at some of the others listed.

dvsness
04-26-2007, 08:54 AM
Although I don't like dishonesty, CM> CEE anyway.

Fwiw, Nitro Fire has DiCreatine Malate.

Sldgehmr
04-26-2007, 09:26 AM
Does marketing really make peple thing NO-Explode or even comparable to other high end products like SuperPump 250, VasoXplode and NO-Shotgun? I am looking at a lab test as I write this. Check out www.****************.com I will be posting more of their results soon. Cell Mass contained 0gms. of Creatine Ethyl Ester and 1.2gm/serving of Creatine Monohydrate. Nice! The lab tests are posted on the board. Please do come take a gander at some of the others listed.

Marketing definetly has a huge play in it. I think most consumers would be shocked if they really knew what dosages were used in the "best " products prop blends. Just from seeing what their total grams amounts per serving are and knowing how much you need to have a full effect there is no way they can contain active dosages.

claudio_rdgz
04-27-2007, 09:51 AM
Does marketing really make peple thing NO-Explode or even comparable to other high end products like SuperPump 250, VasoXplode and NO-Shotgun? I am looking at a lab test as I write this. Check out www.****************.com I will be posting more of their results soon. Cell Mass contained 0gms. of Creatine Ethyl Ester and 1.2gm/serving of Creatine Monohydrate. Nice! The lab tests are posted on the board. Please do come take a gander at some of the others listed.

That is very interesting but it brings me down that there are supplements in the guilty area and the same brand in the certified area. The other things is that we don't know the manufacturing process of those products, what if some settling occurs and we only get the sweeteners and some other guy gets a powder filled with creatine, that would suck.

fkjr2
04-27-2007, 03:05 PM
OT - should all these supps (NO Shotgun, Size On) be counted toward our caloric requirements per day ?

I am actually factoring these products in for my totals per day - is this right?

uhockey
04-27-2007, 04:14 PM
If it has calories, count it, especially those with calories from sugars.

Capped products like NO-Limits (www.designersupps.com) have negligible caloric value.

ncangey0513
04-28-2007, 09:38 AM
ok whoever says that superpump250 gives you the runs are pussies. im taking superpump250 and i dont get any kind of a stomache ache.
:confused: Good for you?? G.I. problems can exist with SP250 and any other preworkout no/stimulant product.

claudio_rdgz
04-28-2007, 02:12 PM
Anyone tried to combine arginine with citrulline malate as a custom mix???

I know it would get hell expensive but it may work despite what people says about NO-Scam

uhockey
04-28-2007, 02:46 PM
We used a combo of Arginine EE and Citrulline EE in NO-Limits.

claudio_rdgz
04-28-2007, 03:54 PM
We used a combo of Arginine EE and Citrulline EE in NO-Limits.

How did that go?

uhockey
04-28-2007, 04:22 PM
Feedback speaks louder than my opinion, but I love it.


We used a combo of Arginine EE and Citrulline EE in NO-Limits.


How did that go?


NO LIMITS (www.designersupps.com)

THE LOGS
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234361
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234471
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2041991
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2056601
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2146351
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2047931
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2097831
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2105761
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1809531
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2087001
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2065331
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1905951
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2089911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2054911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2117311

boss67
04-29-2007, 01:57 AM
I Think for me by now its the Dymatize X-PAND........im thinkin about the NaNo Vapor now dunno ....

pjmartini51
04-29-2007, 07:26 PM
i have tryed Pump Tech, Superpump 250, NO explode, and Vaso XP. I found Vaso XP to give me a good pump and its pill form which is much easier than making the shake, NO explode is no doubt amazing but i dont like the whole empty stomach thing, and Superpump 250 is what i am on now, great taste and great pumps.

terrann
04-30-2007, 12:18 AM
currently taking sp250. i was taking noexplode.
between the two i can't tell whats better. i like them both.

fhees
04-30-2007, 08:37 AM
OX from San are very very good!

Maxfits202
04-30-2007, 08:45 AM
white flood

Mo34Hockey
04-30-2007, 09:19 AM
Animal Pump

scoot557
04-30-2007, 09:56 AM
After trying both: White Flood > NO Xplode

uhockey
04-30-2007, 10:19 AM
After trying both: White Flood > NO Xplode

Consider NO Limits or SNS AEE Matrix next and see what you think of those.

scrwedupmuscle
04-30-2007, 10:57 AM
Its Rocks

fuelish1
04-30-2007, 03:36 PM
I hate to say it, but I haven't seen the results from NO like I did from creatine....I'm very unimpressed with it so far and dont think I'll buy it again...and I aint been slackin' off either! The new size I've built, I attest to my diet and time in the gym. I'm switching back to creatine.

Talo
04-30-2007, 03:51 PM
Nitric Products Are A Waste Of Money.....!

uhockey
05-01-2007, 02:32 AM
I hate to say it, but I haven't seen the results from NO like I did from creatine....I'm very unimpressed with it so far and dont think I'll buy it again...and I aint been slackin' off either! The new size I've built, I attest to my diet and time in the gym. I'm switching back to creatine.

Creatine is definitely MORE important, but a good NO product, cycled, can offer additional benefit.

ryan1977
05-01-2007, 04:23 AM
hey, im currently taking Animal Pump ! Must be in my 2nd week now and I can definately say it gives excellent pumps the more you take it but even on day one It started to show ! My question is can I also take Superpump 250 at the same time as from this thread alot of people highly rate it, so would like to give it a go too ! Please let me know if i can stack these two NO products together ???

ncangey0513
05-01-2007, 04:25 AM
hey, im currently taking Animal Pump ! Must be in my 2nd week now and I can definately say it gives excellent pumps the more you take it but even on day one It started to show ! My question is can I also take Superpump 250 at the same time as from this thread alot of people highly rate it, so would like to give it a go too ! Please let me know if i can stack these two NO products together ???
Finish AP then start SP250 after. You can add a creatine product with SP250 if you want.

ryan1977
05-01-2007, 04:28 AM
right ok well thanks for the fast reply from my question ! will take your advice !

KarlEder27
05-01-2007, 08:25 AM
Can you stack these two products, or would that be just to much in the way of caffiene? I am afraid I will do more damage then good if I stack these two.