View Full Version : Best Overall Nitric Oxide (NO) Product?
Fizogen products are way too expensive, but is it worth the price or just sh*t
Sh*t if you ask me. The ingredients are nothing novel and they certainly don't justify the pricetag.
[ViPeR]
09-29-2005, 08:59 AM
BSN Nitrix & NO-Xplode or CL White Blood hands down!!!
JRODR
09-30-2005, 12:25 PM
What do N02 products do for you? I feel like I need more energy in the gym. Is it safe for a 16yr old to take White Blood or something?
Clayton South
09-30-2005, 04:05 PM
What do N02 products do for you? I feel like I need more energy in the gym. Is it safe for a 16yr old to take White Blood or something?
NO products work to increase nitric oxide levels which can lead to greater pumps and enhanced energy. I would say that if you are already getting enough arginine now, and you respond well to it, it should be safe. Generally, I council my clients to avoid NO products if they suffer from herpes or similar outbreaks.
In high doses, arignine (the base amino acid thats a nitric oxide precursor) can function as a harmful oxidant, so be sure to take some vitamin E if you are going to use an NO product.
For me, NO products do increase my focus, but I find they work even better when used with caffeine pre-workout.
-Clayton South
Industry Writer
ISSA Certified Specialist in Performance Nutrition
ironstrife
10-01-2005, 02:44 AM
The best as of now:
Universal Shock Therapy and Storm Stack, hands down. period.
:)
[N1ZMO]
10-01-2005, 04:32 AM
Youc an defeintely do that, it should help a bit. You may want to try White Blood, :) there are some logs up if youw ant to check them out.
Hey mate.I just clicked your link and looked at your product Blue rhino.You have Yohimbine in this product and to quote what you say about it "Yohimbine works in various ways including as a vasodilator, which widens the blood vessels"But you also have caffiene in this product.Why is that when caffiene closes the the blood vessels?On paper your white blood product looks good.
[N1ZMO]
10-01-2005, 04:34 AM
Being seriouis here.Has anyone noticed harder erections from taking no products?I just read a magazine article that said argine taken at 3 grms a day helped patients with impotence.
sothrowedmex
10-03-2005, 12:06 AM
well to be honest i have tried no2 and it worked but i didnt knwo what to expect since it was my first no2 ever taken. it was too expensive so i opted for the cheaper one and bought nitrix. it took bout 2 weeks to kick in cuz i got off of the no2 but when it did i noticed it the same if not a little more. I liked it and got it for another cycle. Together i was taking cell mass and that stuff works reallyt good. i bought no xplode the 2nd month and it gave me energy and harder pumps and focus for the 1st 2 days. then i started to up the dosage and it gave me bad diarrhea and did nothing after that. I stopped taking it just to see if it was the no xplode that gave me diarrhea. sure enough it was. i tried it 2 months later and same thing. gave me good pumps first 2 days but no diarrhea this time around but didnt do anythign else so i stopped. im gonna start the controlled labs white blood, green bulge, blue rhino stack monday 10-03-05
dirtydean12
10-03-2005, 07:30 AM
']Being seriouis here.Has anyone noticed harder erections from taking no products?I just read a magazine article that said argine taken at 3 grms a day helped patients with impotence.
yep
Clayton South
10-03-2005, 07:46 AM
']Being seriouis here.Has anyone noticed harder erections from taking no products?I just read a magazine article that said argine taken at 3 grms a day helped patients with impotence.
Yes. Arginine is quite effective for this as it acts via the nitric oxide pathway. I'd recommend going with a solid product that contains Arginine Ethyl Ester product for even better sexual results.
-Clayton South
Industry Writer
ISSA Certified Specialist in Performance Nutrition
Raiders067
10-04-2005, 11:13 AM
Where can I pick up this Super pump 250.
Is it a pill or is it a powder? Can I take creatine in conjunction with this or just take it alone?
dirtydean12
10-04-2005, 04:20 PM
The best as of now:
Universal Shock Therapy and Storm Stack, hands down. period.
:)
agreed^^^^^^^^^
Where can I pick up this Super pump 250.
Is it a pill or is it a powder? Can I take creatine in conjunction with this or just take it alone?
GNC or The Vitamin Shoppe
PoonTang
10-05-2005, 05:08 PM
Bsn-no.
CCONN86031
10-05-2005, 07:16 PM
Bsn No Explode!!! For anyone who hasn't tried it you should. This stuff is incredible. Pumps are awesome and vascularity increase unbelievable. I tried Bsn Nitrix several years ago with good results but nothing like NO Explode. I use a 5 day work out schedule so I take 4 scoops a day and 1 scoop on the 2 off days. Pumps start from the first day and by day 4 look out. Make sure you take it on an empty stomach.
ElrahPrime
10-05-2005, 10:24 PM
Bsn No Explode!!! For anyone who hasn't tried it you should. This stuff is incredible. Pumps are awesome and vascularity increase unbelievable. I tried Bsn Nitrix several years ago with good results but nothing like NO Explode. I use a 5 day work out schedule so I take 4 scoops a day and 1 scoop on the 2 off days. Pumps start from the first day and by day 4 look out. Make sure you take it on an empty stomach.
Agreed. It's very useful esp. if you're going to use it before your workout. Right now, NO-Xplosives and ON 100% Whey Protein are the only supplements I'm currently taking although I do plan on getting more supplements.
high_standards
10-06-2005, 05:28 AM
Bsn's Nitrix and Bsn's NO Xplode
TrainInsane
10-06-2005, 05:38 AM
im on my 2nd container of no-explode, i swear by it. ive found that i cant take it minutes before my workouts. then i wait an hr into my workout and drink a protein shake
BubbleMan
10-06-2005, 06:32 AM
Read Sig!!!
JustinMarquez
10-06-2005, 11:27 AM
I have heard about the pumps No-xplode gives you, but does it do anything for size and strength?
One more thing, why do you suggest taking No-xplode on an empty stomach?
Clayton South
10-06-2005, 11:30 AM
I have heard about the pumps No-xplode gives you, but does it do anything for size and strength?
One more thing, why do you suggest taking No-xplode on an empty stomach?
I dont recommend using this product on an emtpy stomach. A lot of people like it, while others - like me - used it as directed and two hours after meals, and it gave me the runs and stomach cramps; I was pumped, but was on the toilet for an hour.
-Clayton South
Industry Writer
ISSA Certified Specialist in Performance Nutrition
Denari
10-06-2005, 11:49 AM
^^^ No-Xplode made me miss class because I was on the toilet the whole time.
PapaDaca
10-07-2005, 07:30 AM
L-arginine
900 mg swanson vitamins brand!
works good take 10 caps a day in divided doses of 3 caps, ur good to go!!!!!!!
Jlopez060
10-07-2005, 10:05 AM
I am deciding between great NO-producing products for Post-Workout. Any suggestions?? I already have proper amounts of Glutamine/Creatine/Protein/Carbs. All I need is some explosive nitric oxide dispersion for vasodilation and increased absorption of the previous compounds. Which one should i use:(1) Blitz Cycle by Fizogen, (2) Vault by San Nutrition, (3) SuperPump250 by Gaspari or (4) NOZ Supercharged by Nutrabolics, (5) Blast Cycle by Fizogen, or (6) 93 Octane by EST.
TOMMANH
10-07-2005, 02:59 PM
I am deciding between great NO-producing products for Post-Workout. Any suggestions?? I already have proper amounts of Glutamine/Creatine/Protein/Carbs. All I need is some explosive nitric oxide dispersion for vasodilation and increased absorption of the previous compounds. Which one should i use:(1) Blitz Cycle by Fizogen, (2) Vault by San Nutrition, (3) SuperPump250 by Gaspari or (4) NOZ Supercharged by Nutrabolics, (5) Blast Cycle by Fizogen, or (6) 93 Octane by EST.
ok guys i am taking no2 and ce2 by mir i think its working, i want to try something new thou..waht should i try????please help i have read all these posts and am more confused whats good and whats not????, should i just keep useing what i have been...or no explode or white blood....again please help thank u!
CCONN86031
10-07-2005, 10:07 PM
I have heard about the pumps No-xplode gives you, but does it do anything for size and strength?
One more thing, why do you suggest taking No-xplode on an empty stomach?
Yes it gives you more strength. #1 Your concentration is better which enables bigger lifts. #2 Bigger pumps mean more blood to the muscle ie more strength.
It tells you on the jar to take it on an empty stomach because it gets into your blood stream faster.
squince
10-08-2005, 09:08 AM
i started it about 11 days ago but didn't drink the amount of water needed. Two days after i started drink water on day 6 i noticed my pump increasing. Now i'm getting great fully body pumps! i order another bottle yesterday. It does give you great pumps but the stuff about recovery time is bull i'm sore as a mother
CodiMac
10-08-2005, 12:47 PM
I am deciding between great NO-producing products for Post-Workout. Any suggestions?? I already have proper amounts of Glutamine/Creatine/Protein/Carbs. All I need is some explosive nitric oxide dispersion for vasodilation and increased absorption of the previous compounds. Which one should i use:(1) Blitz Cycle by Fizogen, (2) Vault by San Nutrition, (3) SuperPump250 by Gaspari or (4) NOZ Supercharged by Nutrabolics, (5) Blast Cycle by Fizogen, or (6) 93 Octane by EST.
In my opinion if you are looking for a good quality product go for SAN Vault or Dymatize Xpand. Both are excellent products. Vault is more pricy but it as an absolutely amazing product.
runningman34
10-11-2005, 09:56 AM
What do you guys think?? i know a lot of people here hate MT, but i'm thinking of getting one or the other to try...NO xplode is a LOT cheaper (as always MT are pricey!!) but has anyone tried both??
GSixZero
10-11-2005, 02:13 PM
BSN NO-xplode is the only NO product I have tried so far but I was very pleased with the results. The biggest thing it gave me was focus during my workouts and awesome recovery time. The pumps were good altho I didn't notice much increase in vascularity. It allowed me to lift more and lift harder in the same amount of time which is great for me since I have limited time to work out. I have made more gains in the 4 weeks that I have been taking it than in any other period in my life. The only real drawback I have seen is that my body got used to it very quickly. At the beginning I was good with 1.5 - 2 scoops and 4 weeks later I am up to 4 scoops.
squince
10-11-2005, 02:18 PM
What do you guys think?? i know a lot of people here hate MT, but i'm thinking of getting one or the other to try...NO xplode is a LOT cheaper (as always MT are pricey!!) but has anyone tried both??
yea muscle tech is way expense and i got a lot better pumps with NO xplode, but i'm taking nitrix to. You can get NO xplode from ************.net for 32 buck a can to. its a good price to try it
CuttingEdge
10-11-2005, 10:05 PM
NOS Blast by Precision Engineered is more potent that NO-Explode. It's more effective (for me at least, and those I know who've tried it) and it's only about 60% of the price.
Clayton South
10-12-2005, 04:43 AM
BSN NO-xplode is the only NO product I have tried so far but I was very pleased with the results. The biggest thing it gave me was focus during my workouts and awesome recovery time. The pumps were good altho I didn't notice much increase in vascularity. It allowed me to lift more and lift harder in the same amount of time which is great for me since I have limited time to work out. I have made more gains in the 4 weeks that I have been taking it than in any other period in my life. The only real drawback I have seen is that my body got used to it very quickly. At the beginning I was good with 1.5 - 2 scoops and 4 weeks later I am up to 4 scoops.
This is pretty typical with products that contain stimulants like caffeine. This kind of tolerance develops quickly as the body up-regulates its production of various hormones as a response to these products.
The key is to cycle it, and to use it only when needed. Otherwise caffeine becomes innefective and you're left looking for an energy boost when you need it to get to the gym. Often, taking more caffeine only worsens the tolerance problem and increases the "off time" needed to offset adaptation.
-Clayton South
Industry Writer
ISSA Certified Specialist in Performance Nutrition
siegler
10-12-2005, 11:49 PM
Perhaps the best overall NO product has not been reviewed yet on Bodybuilding.com - - -
Curious ?
[N1ZMO]
10-13-2005, 01:34 AM
Ok have brought white blood by controled labs..It says it should not be taken by diabetics.Why not?Iv been training 10 plus years.am 240 plus pounds and am A diabetic.Iv used creatine for years done effective prohormone stacks and tryed lots of differant stuff out there.I have extremely tight control over my condition.
Now I also read a study that said Nos type products improved people with diabetes circulation and sugar control-so why the warning on the label?
PATS FAN1
10-13-2005, 06:13 AM
I also would go with NO-EXPLODE because you will get a awsome workout and freakish pumps.YOU HAVE TO TRY THIS STUFF!!!
pu12en12g
10-13-2005, 08:21 AM
']Hey mate.I just clicked your link and looked at your product Blue rhino.You have Yohimbine in this product and to quote what you say about it "Yohimbine works in various ways including as a vasodilator, which widens the blood vessels"But you also have caffiene in this product.Why is that when caffiene closes the the blood vessels?On paper your white blood product looks good.
Great question... start here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=7102506&postcount=57
pu12en12g
10-13-2005, 08:22 AM
']Being seriouis here.Has anyone noticed harder erections from taking no products?I just read a magazine article that said argine taken at 3 grms a day helped patients with impotence.
Yes... it's very common
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=573903
siegler
10-13-2005, 09:08 AM
I can verify that - but let me tell you - just arginine or AAKG or AKIC ain't gonna cut it. The Arginine Paradox if that rings a bell with anyone.
L-Norvaline is a great aminoacid as is Pycnogenol to help improve the shortcomings of al NO products outthere
[N1ZMO]
10-13-2005, 02:32 PM
']Ok have brought white blood by controled labs..It says it should not be taken by diabetics.Why not?Iv been training 10 plus years.am 240 plus pounds and am A diabetic.Iv used creatine for years done effective prohormone stacks and tryed lots of differant stuff out there.I have extremely tight control over my condition.
Now I also read a study that said Nos type products improved people with diabetes circulation and sugar control-so why the warning on the label?
Bump to this question guys.Want to know if theres a danger to diabetics?
Thrust
10-13-2005, 04:08 PM
Well I made the step and finally picked up some BSN No-Explode after reading everyones results with it. So I decided for my first dosage today I would only take one scoop as my body is very sensitive to any stimulant. Well My God....I kid u not within 10 minutes of taking this stuff my forarms were as hard as a rock and I was just sitting watching tv to let it kick in. I began my workout about 20 minutes after taking it and after the first set my arms were already more pumped then the pump I would get after finishing my entire workout without No-Explode. Anywayz by the time I finished my arm routine I could no longer flex my bi's as my forarms were exploding. My bi's were a full 1/2inch larger pumped on No-Explode after only one time taking it then they are pumped without it. I still cant believe the results.
Now just a few questions....
1) Do you guys think I will continue to get this intensity of pump in the continuing days or was it just so intense because it was my first time?
2) Is it normal to be sweating like a pig during a workout on this stuff? I noticed I was sweating a lot more then usual.
Evil_Evo_VIII
10-13-2005, 07:58 PM
I started taking it too and my concern is that my heart rate was too accelerated bc of the caffeine. I stayed like this for a few hours. It did help alot with the work out. Im concerned that it speeding up my heart rate too much. IS this safe to take?
CONTROLLED LABS
10-13-2005, 08:33 PM
']Bump to this question guys.Want to know if theres a danger to diabetics?
there is a type of ala int here called k-rala, this could be an issue for diabetics, so ask your doctor before use.
[N1ZMO]
10-14-2005, 02:36 AM
there is a type of ala int here called k-rala, this could be an issue for diabetics, so ask your doctor before use.
Thanks mate.I tend not to listen to G.Ps when it comes to Supps and muscle building drugs Id rather do my own research,ask questions and try stuff with baby steps .Ive been on it two days and have felt no adverse effects.Though feel a bit trippy like what caffiene does to you.First workout tonight and its awsome you really zero in and can feel your muscle working and pumping like its isolated the feeling more.:)
CONTROLLED LABS
10-14-2005, 03:23 AM
']Thanks mate.I tend not to listen to G.Ps when it comes to Supps and muscle building drugs Id rather do my own research,ask questions and try stuff with baby steps .Ive been on it two days and have felt no adverse effects.Though feel a bit trippy like what caffiene does to you.First workout tonight and its awsome you really zero in and can feel your muscle working and pumping like its isolated the feeling more.:)
awesome bro, do a review here if possible or a log even better.
']Ok have brought white blood by controled labs..It says it should not be taken by diabetics.Why not?Iv been training 10 plus years.am 240 plus pounds and am A diabetic.Iv used creatine for years done effective prohormone stacks and tryed lots of differant stuff out there.I have extremely tight control over my condition.
Now I also read a study that said Nos type products improved people with diabetes circulation and sugar control-so why the warning on the label?
Check my post here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=581788
I wouldn't take a NO product if i were you. Although NO products have no direct effect to blood insulin level, one of the most common disorders of diabetics in long term is CVS diseases due to degration of blood vessels(especially for the lower legs). NO products cause blood vessel damage, both by straining the blood vessel muscles and causing oxidant damage. And no, just because you take some antioxidants it doesn't mean you are safe from oxidant damage.
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/antioxidants.html
Just my 2 phaurmaceutical cents
TheTruth39
10-14-2005, 08:29 AM
I've been taking Higher Power's Arginine Ethyl Ester for a week now and im getting the same pumps from those i got from No2 and pump tech for half the price. Plus quick and nasty pumps that last way beyond the work out.
Hey ? the serving sugguestions on this say to take one serving in the mourning and one before training. My track team only gets they wieght room @ 8 am so should i wake up eat, wait an hour then take one serving before training then one more later in the day or what? Please help! Pumps are useless @ 2:00 in the afternoon.
Thrust
10-14-2005, 12:13 PM
Was just wondering how safe a product No-Explode is? Like am I causing harm to my body by taking it? Is a simple multi vitamin enough to prevent harm to my body? Also, how long of a cycle would you guys recommend on No-Explode and how long off.
So far my pumps and gains on strengths on this stuff has almost been surreal for only 2 days on so thats why I am asking. Great product I just hope it isnt harmful to my body.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Check my post here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=598556&highlight=enjoy
I.M.H.O. NO products are a waste of money and health.
hmrthr1
10-14-2005, 03:43 PM
I loved Nitrix from BSN the first time i used it. I want to try white blood. I hear all but good things about controlled labs as a company
[N1ZMO]
10-15-2005, 01:13 AM
Check my post here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=581788
I wouldn't take a NO product if i were you. Although NO products have no direct effect to blood insulin level, one of the most common disorders of diabetics in long term is CVS diseases due to degration of blood vessels(especially for the lower legs). NO products cause blood vessel damage, both by straining the blood vessel muscles and causing oxidant damage. And no, just because you take some antioxidants it doesn't mean you are safe from oxidant damage.
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/antioxidants.html
Just my 2 phaurmaceutical cents
Nerve damage is caused by blood sugars that are not controled properly.e,g insulin not removing sugar from blood stream into muscles.Would your opinion be the same if I told you my diabetes is under ultra tight control?All my long term blood tests that come back are in the normal leading my doctor to comment "if i didnt know you were a diabetic then id think this was a result of a normal person".Please reply bro :)
snoogins
10-15-2005, 11:43 AM
Nitrox II
']Nerve damage is caused by blood sugars that are not controled properly.e,g insulin not removing sugar from blood stream into muscles.Would your opinion be the same if I told you my diabetes is under ultra tight control?All my long term blood tests that come back are in the normal leading my doctor to comment "if i didnt know you were a diabetic then id think this was a result of a normal person".Please reply bro :)
You have a condition that puts you in an increased chance of cardiovascular disease and you take a supplement that puts you in an increased chance of cardiovascular disease. As a pharmacist who will soon take oath to try the best for his patients, what do you think my opinion would be?
[N1ZMO]
10-15-2005, 01:55 PM
You have a condition that puts you in an increased chance of cardiovascular disease and you take a supplement that puts you in an increased chance of cardiovascular disease. As a pharmacist who will soon take oath to try the best for his patients, what do you think my opinion would be?
Very true.Creatine is also not recomended for diabetics because of the kidney issues that can arise.Ive lived off creatine for the last 10 years all my kidney function/values are fine.Diabetes that is not looked after can cause major circulation problem e.g in the lower leg area as this is furtherest away from the heart.Do you not think that somthing that improves circulation could be of benefit to diabetics?Could you please link me to the study thats proves NO gives you CV disease?
']Very true.Creatine is also not recomended for diabetics because of the kidney issues that can arise.Ive lived off creatine for the last 10 years all my kidney function/values are fine.Diabetes that is not looked after can cause major circulation problem e.g in the lower leg area as this is furtherest away from the heart.Do you not think that somthing that improves circulation could be of benefit to diabetics?Could you please link me to the study thats proves NO gives you CV disease?
First, creatine is very safe for the kidneys,especially if you drink enough water.
The blood circulation problems in diabetes are due to gradual degradation of the blood vessels, however it is douptful that nitrates could help in that case, as they would put added stress to the malfunctioning blood vessels. If they were beneficial, doctors would prescribe nitrates(like nitroglycerine, which work with a similar mechanism with NO products(increasing NO synthetase expression) and are much cheaper too,it always seemed peculiar to me how nobody tried to get some nitrates and see if he gets pumps) to diabetics, however this isn't happening. As for studies, check my post here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=598556&highlight=enjoy+studies
and this article here:
http://www.servier.com/pro/cardiologie/pdfs/tav45ang.asp
[N1ZMO]
10-15-2005, 02:59 PM
First, creatine is very safe for the kidneys,especially if you drink enough water.
The blood circulation problems in diabetes are due to gradual degradation of the blood vessels, however it is douptful that nitrates could help in that case, as they would put added stress to the malfunctioning blood vessels. If they were beneficial, doctors would prescribe nitrates(like nitroglycerine, which work with a similar mechanism with NO products(increasing NO synthetase expression) and are much cheaper too,it always seemed peculiar to me how nobody tried to get some nitrates and see if he gets pumps) to diabetics, however this isn't happening. As for studies, check my post here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=598556&highlight=enjoy+studies
and this article here:
http://www.servier.com/pro/cardiologie/pdfs/tav45ang.asp
Thanks man.Will check them out now :)
MrSkullCrusher
10-15-2005, 03:40 PM
Alot of theads have been started that are really great and informative with asking What is the BEST Overall NO product,CEE product....ect......Is there anyway to Make a list (or a poll) at the beginning of the thread of Different NO products by their name in alphabetical order?It would be alot easier in my opinon.
surferdude316
10-15-2005, 11:06 PM
Nitrix and White Blood are the best i have used.
nitrix takes about 30 minutes to kick in and gives you an all around pump... it's a GREAT product
white blood takes about 45 minutes to kick in and gives you a different kind of pump... i can't really explain it but it works VERY well.
so i say it is a toss up between the two.. try each one out and choose which you prefer =)
spirit3530
10-15-2005, 11:19 PM
Alot of theads have been started that are really great and informative with asking What is the BEST Overall NO product,CEE product....ect......Is there anyway to Make a list (or a poll) at the beginning of the thread of Different NO products by their name in alphabetical order?It would be alot easier in my opinon.
agreed I have been wondering about this since they started this best of series
PapaDaca
10-16-2005, 04:05 PM
the original
u cant beat it!!!
Well I made the step and finally picked up some BSN No-Explode after reading everyones results with it. So I decided for my first dosage today I would only take one scoop as my body is very sensitive to any stimulant. Well My God....I kid u not within 10 minutes of taking this stuff my forarms were as hard as a rock and I was just sitting watching tv to let it kick in. I began my workout about 20 minutes after taking it and after the first set my arms were already more pumped then the pump I would get after finishing my entire workout without No-Explode. Anywayz by the time I finished my arm routine I could no longer flex my bi's as my forarms were exploding. My bi's were a full 1/2inch larger pumped on No-Explode after only one time taking it then they are pumped without it. I still cant believe the results.
Now just a few questions....
1) Do you guys think I will continue to get this intensity of pump in the continuing days or was it just so intense because it was my first time?
2) Is it normal to be sweating like a pig during a workout on this stuff? I noticed I was sweating a lot more then usual.
dude. i've got the same hypersensitivity to stimulants. i can kind of sort of get habituated to caffeine, but it just wires me up so much, and never really do well on the quantities that other people ingest on a daily basis. green tea and chocolate are about as far as i can go. i respond very well to ephedra, and have a major appetite whiplash after 6 hours or so afterwards. i tend to stay away from the stimulants. i've tried the decaf green tea, and even decaf keeps me up at night, it seems that even EGCG, the much lauded catechin in tea that assists with weight loss and is a well known antioxidant, alone can cause me to stay awake.
many substances effect me very strongly, so it isn't just stimulants. i was wondering if you are the same for other types of drugs?
exfatman
10-16-2005, 11:49 PM
Nitrix and White Blood are the best i have used.
nitrix takes about 30 minutes to kick in and gives you an all around pump... it's a GREAT product
white blood takes about 45 minutes to kick in and gives you a different kind of pump... i can't really explain it but it works VERY well.
so i say it is a toss up between the two.. try each one out and choose which you prefer =)
After using Nitrix and WB (at different times people) I can honestly say F&^k BSN...and then again F*#k genetics :)
Thrust
10-17-2005, 03:24 PM
Thanks for the reply Axel. In response to ur question, I actually dont have similar affects with other drugs which are not stimulants. The only thing that really gets to me as u said with u as well is caffeine. So far I have been on NO-Explode for 5 days now continuing with only 1 scoop rather then the recommended and still getting the huge pumps and strength increases. By the end of my workouts whatever muscle group I am working literally feels like its going to explode. Also, all of my lifts have increased in the past 5 days. I was literally shocked when I was able to do my previously max 1 rep bench in sets last workout. I hope these results keep on coming. I figure if my lifts keep increasing like this I have to grow :D
Phergy
10-18-2005, 06:07 AM
I am presently taking NOZ, AE2 and Ester Stack by nutrabolics... So i have my pre-workout.... my creatine and my NO2.... now here is the question.... AE2 keeps you pumped all day long but not insane pumps.. I want to buy some super pump 250, but then ill have a lot of NO2. SuperPump 250 insane pumps I heard but dont last all day unlike AE2 cuz AE2 would last all day and i could continue my usage till the bottles gone along with taking superpump for insane pumps and Mental Focus/Energy... now if I take both AE2 and superpump 250 is that a bad idea.. really unhealthy or? Cuz i dont mind spending the extra money on superpump and throwing it into my nutrabolic stack I mentioned at the top... just is it too much? Thanks looking forward to some answers...
']Thanks man.Will check them out now :)
You might want to check my post here also:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=7386467&postcount=108
budgy
10-18-2005, 01:01 PM
I tried BSN NO-Explode and got a huge pump the first time I took it (only one scoop). The next time I took it the effect was way less than the first time, so the third time I used it I upped the dosage to 2 scoops, didnt seem to help, then I upped it to 3 scoops (the maximum) still no pump like the first time I took it. All it ended up doing was making it very very hard to fall asleep at night.
My question is....do you think some of these products degrade over time, I am thinking the tub that I bought was maybe a little old. Or do some people just not get the same effects that others do?
Adamb83
10-18-2005, 02:37 PM
No explode definitely fades after time. I stopped using it in favor of the wb/gb stack because after a few weeks it lost it's effect. Very good while it lasted though. However, after only 3 times of taking it you should definitely still be feeling it's full effect. Check your water intake as that is extremely important. Also make sure you're taking it on an empty stomach.
quiksin
10-18-2005, 02:40 PM
I have used Nitrix, NO Explode and Max Muscles Full blown and so far they all seem the same to me. Full Blown has creatine also so you see gains a little faster but have a little water bloat which goes away in about a week or two. The good part about the Full Blown, however, was I was advised to take half the recommended dose and still saw similar results.
pu12en12g
10-20-2005, 03:13 AM
After using Nitrix and WB (at different times people) I can honestly say F&^k BSN...and then again F*#k genetics :)
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I couldn't agree more !
ferrethouse
10-20-2005, 04:04 PM
For me, the best out there is by far the no-xplode. My mental focus is so much more amped since i started using it! Ten minutes after taking it, i'm ready to lift right out of the gym!
Ten minutes? Ten seconds after I took a gulp I felt like I had just drank a supergulp of cappuchino. What is the stimulant in that stuff? I couldn't find it listed on the package and it can't be caffiene since that would interfere with the NO right?
Anyway, the stuff rocks for the first half of your workout but then I crashed like I do if I consume Coke before a workout.
I'm using Nitrix right now. I haven't been taking it long enough to notice much difference in terms of muscles but it certainly makes a difference in the bedroom. I haven't had an erection like that since I was 18. My wife never lets me forget to take my Nitrix pills now :)
aahhh2
10-20-2005, 07:40 PM
I work at GNC and i've tried pinnacles NO product, MRI's NO2, BSN NO-xplode, Nitrix, And Pump tech. for me NO2 gave the best pump but it's way too pricy and has no creatine. Trac Extreme-NO gave me a pump really close to that of NO2 and it contains creatine and much much more and for the price and the pump you cant go wrong. From the first time using trac i notice a great difference in pump compared to no-xplode and nitrix, i felt the pump from trac much longer after i worked out.
Tino16
10-21-2005, 07:55 AM
is It pills or powder? I can't swallow so I really liked BSN's NO Explode. But I've noticed that after awhile it doesn't work anymore and I have to get off it for like a month.
aCCel
10-21-2005, 10:29 AM
is It pills or powder? I can't swallow so I really liked BSN's NO Explode. But I've noticed that after awhile it doesn't work anymore and I have to get off it for like a month.
same with me, now I pretty much just take 1 scoop of NO-Xplode for the mental boost it gives me, even if I cant really feel anything I believe my body can push more wieght. It's the 'thought' of having it in my system that makes me work harder so there isnt a point in taking very much now
Tino16
10-21-2005, 05:45 PM
Right now I'm taking Synthatrex fropm *********, and you feel hot like hell specially in the face and ears, when I lift I feel it, but man that is horribly tasting Sh*T. Same thing with the V12; It gets good reviews here but I never really felt it with this one and I can't even put the taste into words. They aren't so bad, It's just tough to drink them when you're in a rush cuz they're nausiating.
aahhh2
10-22-2005, 08:10 AM
Trac comes only in a powder form and from experience i suggest if anyone does try it do not leave it in your car cuz it does condenses and 1 scoop becomes more potent. i first started off taking the full scoop and now i moved down to a quarter of a scoop because i left it in my car and because the effects were lasting so long i didnt feel the need to take another full dosage.
dc-five
10-22-2005, 09:25 AM
Currently taking MRI's No2. Have had good results. I really want to try BSN's No-Explode. This may sound kind of weird, but is it OK to stack MRI's No2 (pre-breakfast, pre-lunch)with BSN's NO-Explode (pre-workout)?????
Big Poppa
10-22-2005, 05:04 PM
I had the best results with EAS nitron....it is cheap and i could feel it working withen 5 minutes into my workout
runningman34
10-27-2005, 09:40 AM
Ok, so i went and bought some NO xplode.....i'm not getting great results from it like everyone says on here....i didn't notice any extra pump before the workout or increased vascularity...nothing....the only thing i "might" have noticed is that i felt a bit warmer..probably from the caffiene..thats it....
I drink a gallon of water a day, plus another 700ml bottle while i'm working out....i'm taking 2 scoops 1/2 hour before i workout...anybody else not get any thing from this product?? how well does it have to be mixed?? if i let it sit, i get a bit of grit on the bottom of my shaker...maybe i'm not mixing it enough??
Any help would be good....OH..it says not to take food or protien shake within an hour of this...i have a serving of EAS max milk about 1 1/4 hours before hand...should be ok??
wildp1948
10-28-2005, 01:37 AM
bsn's no-xplode with 2 tablespoons of cex has worked absolute wonders for me. i love it and would definitely recommend it to anyone
future_wrestler
10-30-2005, 02:16 PM
Yeah how does CEX work from personal expieriance?
wildp1948
10-30-2005, 05:31 PM
well before the CEX the no-xplode by itself gave me just a little pump, not as much as i was hoping for or from what i was told. later after talking to a few people they told me to take no-xplode with 2tablespoons of CEX and i would notice a much bigger difference. well they were all right! i noticed a huge difference. it usually kicks in for me about 40 minutes after taking it. i feel like im on crack. i am so pumped and i feel so intense about what i am doing in the gym. if i didnt have to go to work after the gym i think i would stay in the gym for a good 3 to 4 hours or until i passed out. thats how it affects me others might be different but according to everyone i talk to that has tried it, its had the same affect on them. give it a try i dont think youll be dissapointed.
TrAinEr2B
11-04-2005, 11:23 AM
I am going to mention the all the NO products that I have used and I what they did or didn't do for me.
1) 2 bottles of NO2 by Mri - I used this about a year ago and I must say that for me this was a waste of money because I had a good training routine a the time, but not a really good diet at that time and never got even a little noticeable pump, and I was confused what pumps even were because nothing seemed different when I took them.
2) 1 Bottle Liquid Nitrovol - No results just like NO2.
3) 2 bottles BSN Nitrix - No results at all even when using the "mass stack". I had a very good diet and training program when using this too.
4) 2 tubs BSN NOXplode - I finally felt pumps from an NO product, but the funny thing is that the only day that I would feel them would be on biceps day and I wouldn't feel the pumps on my biceps, but instead on my forearms and never felt it on any other body part. Stimulants never have affected me very much so even if I took 3 scoops of this, all I would feel was just a little more focused and a very slight increase in energy, but not jittery at all like some people have said on this forum. The gains I got from this seemed pretty good though.
5) Gaspari Super Pump - I used this today in my workout and I work on shoulders and triceps, and I didn't feel any pumps when I was working on delts, but once I began on tri's my arms got a huge pump and my arms looked freakishly huge, I didn't want to step away from the mirror they looked so good, but the pump finished almost as soon as I finished my workout.
So I guess I have weird genes or something because most of the products don't do jack for me, and if they do do something then it's nothing compared to what other members on this forum claim. Of course what works for some people doesn't work for others though, so this was just my 2 cents.
brownhornet
11-05-2005, 08:25 AM
I've been on NO-Xplode for a little over a week now and I really like it. I've also just been using plain arginine and the combination is resulting in great pumps and some nice strength gains. I was gonna try Nitrix, but after reading the that Nitroxy3 is the same as PumpTech I'm thinking of giving it a try since I can get it for 13 bucks at Wal-Mart.
besoge
11-06-2005, 08:01 PM
yeah dude, i get the same feeling..just mad pumps in my forearms, tris and bis. To the point that i can curl cuz my forarms are about to bust outta my skin. I also don't like that you get used to it. So i take around 4 scoops now. I sweat like a mofo in the gym (prolly all the caffein). I feel like nitrix is a crap product. But cell mass and no-xplode give me crazy pumps. One night i took cell mass and the pumps were so intense i couldnt sleep. Plus i dont like that fact that i have to watch my glutamin intake while on nitrix.
mz67fr
11-08-2005, 10:32 AM
NO XPLODE straight up.
mazdaphien
11-08-2005, 12:14 PM
I have been using the mass stack for a month and a half and it is the most amazing stuff I have ever tried. The nitrix kicked in not to long ago and I can feel amazing pumps all day long. Pure energy coarses through my entire body. The noxplode is just plain crazy. Immediate energy and extreme focus takes my workouts to a whole new level. My suggestion to everyone who craves results is to at least try the mass stack.
jimmythegreek
11-10-2005, 04:38 PM
Legal gear Cold Fusion
dillin00
11-14-2005, 08:36 AM
Having tried both heres my opinion
Order from best to worst
1. BSN NO-Xplode- honestly this stuff does wonders for me, i take it like it says 30mins. before i lift and by the time i get to the gym im pumped and ready to lift. Every body part i do i can feel the pump esp. in my arms, tri's and chest. In my opinion this is the best NO products hands down.
2. Superpump 250- The reason i tried this product was i heard tons of good stuff about it like i did with no-xplode. It seems like these two are the best out there. The reason i rate this one second is because i could only feel the pumps on some of the days, i tried taking it the same time same way everday day but i dunno maybe i didnt. The only thing i think this product did better than no-xplode was when i felt the pumps they last longer through the day.
Madd_Matt
11-14-2005, 11:28 AM
BSN NOX all the way...pretty good stuff
Any help would be good....OH..it says not to take food or protien shake within an hour of this...i have a serving of EAS max milk about 1 1/4 hours before hand...should be ok??
runningman34...are you taking NOX on an empty stomach? That can make a difference and make sure you take 1 scoop on your off days, still on empty stomach. when i say empty stomach, I mean empty as in not eating anything for 2-3 hrs before hand and then after workout, dump the protein in with a whey shake and then eat your meal...try that and see how it works for you.
xJonathanx
11-14-2005, 12:23 PM
Ive tried alot of them and this is my .02, aside from price and taste this is what worked best for me..
1. Xpand
2. White Blood
3. NO2
4. Muscle Nitrous (VPX)
5. Pump-tech
I added the last 'tech' because it was the first one I tried. You know how you always remember your first... ...
NumberTwentyTwo
11-14-2005, 12:36 PM
Ive tried alot of them and this is my .02, aside from price and taste this is what worked best for me..
1. Xpand
2. White Blood
3. NO2
4. Muscle Nitrous (VPX)
5. Pump-tech
I added the last 'tech' because it was the first one I tried. You know how you always remember your first... ...
what about shock therapy
xJonathanx
11-14-2005, 05:18 PM
what about shock therapy
never tried
Double Eclipse
11-15-2005, 06:29 PM
what about shock therapy
new to the board but not to the weights and goodies. i decided to try shock therapy after this last can of no-xplode ran dry.i chose shock this time because it is in the universal family and wanting to stay true to the animal line.three week in and not impressed at all,even after two weeks off no-x.one scoop or two and barely any noticeable pumps and only an itchy scalp.all this on an entirely empty gut (5:00am ya know).also,almost 1 1/2 hours later,BAM....off to the restroom for some paperwork.this never happened with any of the other no supplements.the only change in diet of supp's was the change in no powders.that's my nickel.
love,peace and hair grease.
Double Eclipse
11-15-2005, 07:11 PM
oh yeah....back to no-xplode IF/WHEN i can get thru this jug of shock therapy.
Cuchulainn
11-15-2005, 07:48 PM
I'm almost done with my 3 week cycle of MRI's NO2 and its a good thing. My girlfriend is complaining that my veins are popping out too much, especially after I hit arms in the gym, solid pumps, and great focus. Also have noticed an increase in veins in shoulder and chest as well. MRI is the only NO2 I've tried, I will try Noxplode next cycle.
haymaker
11-16-2005, 02:00 PM
sorry if this is a repost but has anyone tried labrada super charge. a few of my friends say its by far the best, not for sure if i can trust their judgement, they said its by far the best they have used
DavisWR31
11-17-2005, 02:07 PM
Do NO products have to be taken on an empty stomach?
santos8905
11-17-2005, 08:42 PM
just wondering if pump tech has to be taken every day or just on the days i lift.
weight-140
bench-180
squat-285
favorite lift-skull crushers
vertical-32''
Paul_K
11-18-2005, 03:57 AM
BSN's NO Xplode is the business, works wonders for me. DavisWR31 on NO Xplode yes
Mick535
11-19-2005, 12:42 PM
I haven't used the "Next Generation" of NO2, but I did use it for about 6 months when it first came out and had really good results with it. No-Explode was a pretty good product for me, but mainly for getting me through tough workouts, I never really got pumped on it. Plus, NO-explode made me feel all hot and dizzy after taking it due to the alanine(sp?) in it. I just finished a bottle of AEX stacked with CEX from VPX and I had pretty good workouts with great pumps that lasted a few hours after the workout. I realy noticed how well it worked after I stopped taking it because my strength dropped a little and my intensity in the gym sucked. I plan on starting a cycle of white blood and Cre-Ethyl Thunder after my current Methyl Masterdrol cycle tosee how that compares too. I still have not experienced a product that has made me say, wow, that's awesome! I did try a sample pack of Shock Therapy and had a great workout and pump, but that might have been a placebo effect, and not the real deal.
muscledoc250
11-19-2005, 12:49 PM
NO xplode is potent but makes people feel a little jittery sometimes on an empty stomach. There's a new one by InStone that is real good...can't remember the name of it...someone gave me some to try and it produces the most powerful pump i've seen.
Metalcarnage
11-20-2005, 06:46 PM
Has anyone experienced a "immunity" to superpump 250. After a bad bought with some creatine i decided to try an NO product for the first time. After reading alot of reviews on here about some ppl having to slowly work into it because it was such an energy shock and all i expected to be high as a kite. However i slowly worked my way up to 3 scoops prior to workout on a completely empty stomach and havent really had considerable results. My pumps are a little better, strength gains have not been overly noticed and when i take it i dont really notice a change in myself physically throughout my workout (none of the explosive workouts as the label so vividly states). I do get the wonderful, as one bb member who i forget who it was put it, "superpoops" but thats about it. Anyone else experience such results or lack thereof?
bufalloman
11-22-2005, 04:53 PM
Do you if you can take V12Turbo with NOZ supercharged at the same time? because I am looking to gain back all the weight from when I couldn't lift. It blows. What can i take with NOZ supercharged?
WindSurf3r
11-22-2005, 05:15 PM
you guys are too funny
dcupsmckoy
11-22-2005, 10:49 PM
hell yea, BSN no-xplode is the best supplemnt out there, aside from protein, creatine
i tried the super pump 250, i like the results but hated the "superpoops". i stacked it with the animal pack and the pro complex. had good pumps and increased vascularity!! not bad product if u don't mind blowing up the bathroom!!!
wadster
11-24-2005, 02:00 PM
sci-fit has Nitrox soft gels (awesome) #304-757-6843 todd
NumberTwentyTwo
11-24-2005, 03:46 PM
sci-fit has Nitrox soft gels (awesome) #304-757-6843 todd
weird
francoportaro18
11-25-2005, 07:12 AM
If you could buy CellMass or Noxplode which one would it be. Could you also explain why. Also can you give your opinions on if I should try these products or if other one are better.
Mick535
11-25-2005, 07:30 AM
If you could buy CellMass or Noxplode which one would it be. Could you also explain why. Also can you give your opinions on if I should try these products or if other one are better.
Cellmass and No-Xplode are two different kinds of products. Cellmass is a creatine supplement while NO-Xplode has a small amount of creating in it, it is a Nitric Oxide Creatine mix pre-workout supplement. That's why BSN also has Nitrix. Nitrix is the pure NO supp for them and Cellmass is their creatine product. So if you do anything, use both, or better yet, all three. There's alot of articles on here about it, research it a little and READ the product description.
So what do you want a Creatine Supp or an NO supp? Cellmass doesn't even belong in this thread.
brownhornet
11-27-2005, 04:43 PM
Like many others on this site, NO-Xplode no longer really works for me as far as pumps go. all I get is a caffeine rush. It worked awesome the first couple of weeks, but I guess I have developed a tolerance to it. Some people just add more scoops, but I buzz enough off of the caffeine in two scoops, so I think I will just finish out this tub and roll with Now's Arginine Orithinine product. It give me good pumps with or without the NO-Xplode...
Majestic 12
11-28-2005, 01:44 AM
MBI's Nitric Oxide and CEE helped keep me from plateauing and also work as a good PCT too.
boy toy
11-28-2005, 08:01 PM
White blood
NOX3
supercharge
super pump 250
Want to try the shock therapy powder from universal
deezel31
12-01-2005, 10:21 AM
the best NO out there is hands down: SuperPump 250. This stuff is like a miracle. Strength and size sky rocket after every use and workout. I compared it to all other NO out there as well. I read alot about all of them and none seem capable of SuperPump 250 results.
Im also a fan of sp250. I strength gains seem to go up overnight plus I receive major wood from it when it is time to get down!
deezel31
12-01-2005, 10:25 AM
What are some cheaper products than sp250 that can give you the same effects with strength gains?
cballs
12-01-2005, 03:12 PM
personally i prefer the mri brand.my strength shot up tremendously whn on it and the pump was incredible even though though my diet wasn't exactly great.it's the most expensive but i think it's worth it...you get what you pay for..
cballs
12-01-2005, 03:12 PM
personally i prefer the mri brand.my strength shot up tremendously whn on it and the pump was incredible even though though my diet wasn't exactly great.it's the most expensive but i think it's worth it...you get what you pay for..
tanda317
12-01-2005, 04:39 PM
whiteblood...enough said
catmando
12-01-2005, 05:47 PM
Has anybody tried Trac Extreme-NO?
And what's the deal on GAKIC?? They've got a six-page ad in Musclemag but only ONE paragraph telling what the stuff is. The rest is just useless hype IMO.
BearKnuckleNYC
12-01-2005, 06:02 PM
BSN's No Explode is awesome. Guaranteed, anybody who tries it (you will know right away!) will stay with it! You only need to take it pre-workout... not on non-workout days. This is the leader of no-load creatine / NOS products; often immitated, NEVER DUPLICATED!!
I get the feeling this was a little bot of free advertising for their product and company.
This guy made one post since FEB and this is what he had to say?
Makes ya go Hmmm!
however, a friend of mine tired this and was really into it. I'll let you all know how it goes.
Other products I have tired...
NO2 love it but not the price
Nitro Booster by EAS I was ehh about it
NP2 by ids again I was ehh on it but you can feel the trib when it gets rolling.
Get back to you on the NO Xplode
gymaddict01
12-01-2005, 06:04 PM
white blood. period.
catmando
12-01-2005, 08:02 PM
white blood. period.
Got a website for it?
rocstar84
12-02-2005, 07:35 PM
As far a NO goes i just started taking Superpump 250, and i love it, it gives me awesome energy and pumps...
Oh and i have heard that Gakic sucks, its prolly just another Muscletech scam, i always steer clear of their crap!
Peace!!!
stevothedevo
12-02-2005, 08:23 PM
Are you guys for real?
NO does NOthing at all - except for a bit of dihorreah. Your gains and pumps are imagined, natural or attributable to other supplements.
Don't believe the hype.
Out of any supp I've had - and believe me I've tried a hell of a lot - this is the worst along with ecdy and methoxy.
I log all my data and trial different things solo for accurate assessment and NO is crap.
NumberTwentyTwo
12-02-2005, 09:50 PM
Are you guys for real?
NO does NOthing at all - except for a bit of dihorreah. Your gains and pumps are imagined, natural or attributable to other supplements.
Don't believe the hype.
Out of any supp I've had - and believe me I've tried a hell of a lot - this is the worst along with ecdy and methoxy.
I log all my data and trial different things solo for accurate assessment and NO is crap.
i guess youre right. the thousands that have felt benefits are making it up!!!!
just because u r a non responder doesnt mean it doesnt work...
stevothedevo
12-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Just because I'm a non responder doesn't mean it does work either.
And the so called thousands that it has worked for......has the data been statistically collated? Subject to independent scientific investigation?
Also, how many now debunked products did thousands used to swear by when they were first marketed????
And just what are the so called benefits - feeling pumped....big deal, that happens after any decent workout and a good creatine dose. Vasodialation....well I'd rather use a product that assists decent gains in muscularity, not big veins.
NumberTwentyTwo
12-02-2005, 11:16 PM
Just because I'm a non responder doesn't mean it does work either.
And the so called thousands that it has worked for......has the data been statistically collated? Subject to independent scientific investigation?
Also, how many now debunked products did thousands used to swear by when they were first marketed????
And just what are the so called benefits - feeling pumped....big deal, that happens after any decent workout and a good creatine dose. Vasodialation....well I'd rather use a product that assists decent gains in muscularity, not big veins.
benefits..vasolidation, faster recovery, harder erection (lol!), extra push, pumps
also NO has been out for a while-arginine (the main precursor of NO) has been used for at least 30 years. i think it would have faded quickly if it doesnt work
BEEFCAKE!
12-03-2005, 12:07 AM
PVL NITROXYN!!
I've also tried PUMP-TECH which did work, but NITROXYN does a way better job (for almost half the price). It is almost pure arginine and you feel pumped just 20 - 30 min after taking it. Also very affordable. :)
After playing around with different dosages, i have learned that you will only need the pre workout dose. This is beacuse the morning dose got me pumped and ready to to lift, but the effects wore off before i got to the gym. So i only take 1 dose of 6 tablets before training. (thats 2 tablets less than reccommended dosage) And sice i only take this on days i train, it lasts up to 8 weeks for $70(AU).
This is a trully awesome NO2 supplement and I would reccommend it to anyone
stevothedevo
12-03-2005, 12:58 AM
Beefcake
1. Why specifically do you think it is awesome?
2. What do you particularly recommend it for?
3. How does the feeling of being pumped add to your gains?
So NO supposedly makes your muscles feel pumped .... so does a few reps on the weights...so what other, actually useful benefits does it give you?
Do you have evidence of actual personal gains directly specific from this product?
sethg428
12-03-2005, 04:54 AM
NO-Xplode is amazing! I have noticed great results from it. However, when I tried stacking it with cell-mass, most of my time was spent in the bathroom lol. Right now I take 2 scoops of NO-Xplode 30 mins before workout (NOT on an empty stomach) i'll have half a whey shake 30 mins before taking the NO-Xplode . Its awsome stuff! It just sux that its soo damn expensive.
pu12en12g
12-03-2005, 05:05 AM
Got a website for it?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/white.html
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=594079
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=592492
Mick535
12-03-2005, 05:38 AM
Beefcake
1. Why specifically do you think it is awesome?
2. What do you particularly recommend it for?
3. How does the feeling of being pumped add to your gains?
So NO supposedly makes your muscles feel pumped .... so does a few reps on the weights...so what other, actually useful benefits does it give you?
Do you have evidence of actual personal gains directly specific from this product?
First, NO is primarily a conduit to allow things like creatine, protein, and other nutrients get to your muscles faster. The pump is basically allowing your veins to open up like pipes, not to mention, nitrogen enables protein synthesis.
Its written on many websites, but MRI's NO2 site describes the methodology behind the product:
"Nitric oxide is the muscle's "cell-signaling" molecule responsible for blood flow, oxygen delivery, glucose uptake, muscle velocity, power output, and muscle growth.
By creating and then sustaining levels of nitric oxide in skeletal muscle, NO2 delivers powerful performance-enhancing benefits. Like accelerating both fast and slow twitch muscle fiber for greater strength and enhanced peak power, and by providing complete full-body recovery for prolonged muscular endurance."
Now. if you read through the tons of logs and threads in this forum done by experienced lifters on products like White Blood, No-Xplode, Superpump 250, etc. Then you'll know what it does, instead of thinking you do.
What have you used that didn't give you results and what was your diet, lifiting program, and weight/bodyfat percentage at the time? And how many years have you been lifting after puberty. Teenage test levels make it hard to respond to supplements since teenagers really don't need them.
dark_man812
12-03-2005, 04:32 PM
BSN's No Explode is awesome. Guaranteed, anybody who tries it (you will know right away!) will stay with it! You only need to take it pre-workout... not on non-workout days. This is the leader of no-load creatine / NOS products; often immitated, NEVER DUPLICATED!!
Gotta disagree with you there. NO Xplode did nothing for me and the fruit punch tastes awful. I tried Serious Nutrition's CVM XT and saw decent results.
maffie2
12-04-2005, 12:11 AM
Can i ask a question please.
Which do you think is a better NO stack?
Universal Storm/NOX3
OR
Universal Storm/Shock
I considering adding them to my list of supps... i first thought i wanted to try NO-xplode, but it was too damn expensive.
NumberTwentyTwo
12-04-2005, 09:05 AM
Can i ask a question please.
Which do you think is a better NO stack?
Universal Storm/NOX3
OR
Universal Storm/Shock
I considering adding them to my list of supps... i first thought i wanted to try NO-xplode, but it was too damn expensive.
im gonna use storm w white blood
Raffael
12-04-2005, 03:00 PM
White blood and Green Buldge!!!
GO FOR IT!!!!
maffie2
12-04-2005, 03:40 PM
im gonna use storm w white blood
I think it's more expensive this way... it would be cheaper going green bulge white blood combo price
NumberTwentyTwo
12-04-2005, 04:35 PM
I think it's more expensive this way... it would be cheaper going green bulge white blood combo price
not really because storm has 80 servings while green bulge only has 30
Rob Awesome
12-04-2005, 06:37 PM
if someone could IM me & help me decide between Nitrix & NO Xplode.. thanks =/
NumberTwentyTwo
12-04-2005, 06:59 PM
if someone could IM me & help me decide between Nitrix & NO Xplode.. thanks =/
ohh god dont say that!!!
i want u to use the search button and look at the descriptions of these products. then choose one of these
-universal shock therapy
-controlled labs white blood
-dymatize xpand
then ask questions
Joker187
12-05-2005, 09:22 AM
Do any companies that produce Nitric Oxide supplements off free samples through their website?
Rob8701
12-05-2005, 07:43 PM
ohh god dont say that!!!
i want u to use the search button and look at the descriptions of these products. then choose one of these
-universal shock therapy
-controlled labs white blood
-dymatize xpand
then ask questions
how could u like dym xpand??? look at the 240 caps form...u dont even know how much of each ingredient they put in. Since they do tell u for the powdered version, it makes u wonder why they didnt include it with the caps.
ClobbererOfYou
12-08-2005, 07:28 PM
No-explode
samsung
12-10-2005, 12:31 AM
i dont understand how one NO product can be superior to the next. as long as they all hav 3g of aakg or whatever, they should all be the same. right??
VastusLateralis
12-12-2005, 06:14 PM
Trac Extreme NO worked best for me compared to pump tech, NO2, and NO Xplode.
JadeDragon
12-12-2005, 07:47 PM
you can't really say that NO XPLODE is an inferior product because it is not primarily a NO supplement. it is a weaker combination of NO and Creatine. If you research it, BSN's actual NO product is Nitrix. NO Xplode works well for me and gives me amazing pumps. headaches are the only side effect that i noticed. white blood has to be my personal favorite NO product. it works well and is much more affordable than Nitrix.
G0R1LLA
12-12-2005, 08:22 PM
i have tried and liked nitrix and white blood. i like the fact that i have put on about 6 lbs and have improved my physique with white blood but i love nitrix and the all day pumps i had with that. would it be a bad idea to take some sort of combo of nitrix and white blood? or am i better off choosing one or the other. thanx
Jwillbc55
12-12-2005, 08:40 PM
I've tried quite a few different NO products and here are some of the ones that I liked:
-White Blood
-SuperPump 250
-Xpand/Xpand Energized
-Trac
-SuperCharge
-Amped
Here are a few I didn't really care for:
-NoXplode
-Pump Tech
-GroMax HG
-NOW Arginine/Ornithine
Overall not thinking about money I don't think anything can really compete with SuperPump
VastusLateralis
12-12-2005, 10:06 PM
I have to try white blood, i hear lots of good things.
BOMARKSF
12-13-2005, 01:13 AM
There is a great article in the latest issue of Men's Exercise about NO useage and products. They absolutely rave about MHP's Trac Extreme-NO. So much so that I thought it was an MHP advertisement! If half of what they wrote is true, that stuff has to be the most fabulous product out there. I have used White Blood and been very satisfied with the results. I started using Nitrix, which is also good, but only if you do a week to 10 day loading phase. Supplement makers are finding ways around loading; yielding almost instant results. I am all in favor of that! I'll try Trac-X next time I have $41 laying around, that figures out to about $1.65 per serving.....not too bad.
southbeach14
12-13-2005, 06:54 AM
superpump 250 . i have good results with it and i would recomend it.
maffie2
12-13-2005, 07:18 AM
There is a great article in the latest issue of Men's Exercise about NO useage and products. They absolutely rave about MHP's Trac Extreme-NO. So much so that I thought it was an MHP advertisement! If half of what they wrote is true, that stuff has to be the most fabulous product out there. I have used White Blood and been very satisfied with the results. I started using Nitrix, which is also good, but only if you do a week to 10 day loading phase. Supplement makers are finding ways around loading; yielding almost instant results. I am all in favor of that! I'll try Trac-X next time I have $41 laying around, that figures out to about $1.65 per serving.....not too bad.
1.65 is not bad? :rolleyes:
BOMARKSF
12-13-2005, 07:55 AM
1.65 is not bad? :rolleyes:
Well, NONE of this stuff is cheap, is it? If it were any less than that, I would be suspicious of the quality and effectiveness of the product. When something seems too good to be true (price vs. quality), it generally is!
bigsexy19
12-14-2005, 11:15 AM
anyone ever get explosive diarrhea from no-xplode??
thicketman
12-14-2005, 03:21 PM
NOS Ether + 100% Vegetable Glycerine works NICE!
thicketman
12-14-2005, 03:24 PM
anyone ever get explosive diarrhea from no-xplode??
Swamp ass?.,.Yes.
Im pretty sure "swampass" refers to having a really sweaty butt so your boxers/briefs are sticking to your skin. Maybe thats just a Florida thing?
No-Xplode's primary function isnt a NO product. Its more of a combination of creatine, caffine, and NO, to give good pumps and lots of energy pre workout. Not exactly a good comparison against other pure NO products...Nitrix however is pure NO product.
poonfk
12-14-2005, 08:33 PM
I strongly recommend ProArgi-9. ProArgi-9 contains 5,000 mg (5 grams) of elemental pharmaceutical grade l-arginine in the form best metabolized by humans. ProArgi-9 does not contain the inferior forms of l-arginine, such as HCL. The unique, proprietary flavor system in ProArgi-9 negates the very unpleasant taste of l-arginine, thus providing the first "great-tasting" l-arginine product.
The exclusive patented ProArgi-9 formula was developed by leading l-arginine researcher Dr. Ann de Wees Allen. It has been safely used in humans since 1983, no side-effects. Dr. Allen received the first glycemic patent ever awarded for her development of the low glycemic delivery system in ProArgi-9. The methodology developed exclusively for ProArgi-9 is proprietary, and involves a complex 32-step process to extract the non-competing properties from organic fruits.
Dr. Allen is the personal nutritionist to National Football League Superbowl athletes, Salt Lake City 2002 Olympic Medalists, Gold Medalists, Mr. Universe, Mr. Olympia, Ms. Galaxy, APF Nationals, WPC World Championships, PGA, and world-ranked pro-athletes. Designed and implemented the Human Maximum Performance Program for professional athletes.
World class professional athletes have been using Pro Argi-9 for the past 20 years, including Mr. Universe, Ms. Galaxy, powerlifters, bodybuilders, and Olympic athletes.
Dr. Allen's L-arginine patent is considered the breakthrough product of the Century, and is currently valued at 100 million dollars. The value of the patent was based on the unique properties of Dr. Allen's formula.
The following claims have been analyzed by FDA and FTC regulatory attorneys and will be allowed under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994
Legal Claims 1 15 as related to L-arginine patent # 6,608,109
*Enhances muscle mass
*Supports muscle growth
*Stimulates muscle development
*Supports hypothalamic response
*Aids in decreasing body fat
*Is an antioxidant
*Helps maintain healthy blood sugar levels
*Is more well tolerated than L-arginine alone
*Helps boost energy
*Is rejuvenative
*Helps promote healthy sexual performance
*Is an adaptogen
*Growth hormone: Helps provide the building blocks necessary for the body to maintain its own healthy growth hormone levels
*Helps produce Nitric Oxide (NO)
*Stimulates production of human anti-aging mechanisms in persons over 23
Dr. Allen lectures at the Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic on the topic of
L-Arginine.
"Congratulations on being the first woman scientist to lecture at the Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic and for helping us move into the 21st Century!"
Arnold Schwarzenegger
For more information on ProArgi-9, view http://www.proargi9.com
For more enquire, email : synergyworldwide8@yahoo.com.sg or call +65-96773630.
Whey2Huge4U
12-15-2005, 07:42 AM
I agree with those who picked BSN NO-Xplode. It has really worked for me over the summer when i was doing some serious lifting, i noticed a difference the first time i took and i have felt the effects everytime i have taken it. It is a really good product. I the only thing i have to say bad about it is that orange flavor sucks, if u get it, don't get that flavor.
I 100% agree with you regarding the orange flavor or NO-Xplode. It took a lot of dedication to force that stuff down. Almost had to do a pre no-xplode supplement of whiskey just to tolerate that ****. Actually paid attention the next time I bought NO-xplode and purchased the fruit punch, which is quite pleasing.
For all looking into NO supplementation, you might want to check out this link. Some new test showing NO effecting the testicular region...Not sure if its true or not, but I know im at least interested considering I supplement NO.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=649243
Torm
no-xplode is really good great pumps and you can feel it every time you take it.
big85
12-17-2005, 05:41 PM
Anyone who has used Superpump 250, did you have to order it online or were you able to get it at a store? I haven't seen it at GNC but I could look at vitamin shoppe or vitamin world but those are te only other 2 supplement storews I know of.
Rockon2233
12-17-2005, 05:46 PM
Can i ask a question please.
Which do you think is a better NO stack?
Universal Storm/NOX3
OR
Universal Storm/Shock
I considering adding them to my list of supps... i first thought i wanted to try NO-xplode, but it was too damn expensive.
Storm/Shock........DO IT!!!!!!!!!!
SingaporeGUY-23
12-17-2005, 06:09 PM
1. Nitrix - NO effect
2. No-Xplore - Effective on High Doses Only.
3. Cellmass - No Dextose For Post Workout Drink. Effective.
xxPowerlifterxx
12-17-2005, 07:01 PM
Got bad sides with SP250...spent hours in the bathroom after my workouts
NO-Xplode gave me a real kick...it's got lots and lots and LOTS of caffeine
Nitrix does nothing, don't waste your $$$
As far as pump goes, SP250 gave me the best overall results....if you can take the sides, go for it. but you may find yourself struggling to not crap yourself
JakeTheTank
12-18-2005, 03:03 PM
most definetly No-Xplode oh yeah
big85
12-19-2005, 03:47 PM
Has anyone tried 93 Octane?
BOMARKSF
12-20-2005, 02:12 AM
There is a really interesting article in the Jan '06 issue of EMO magazine about NO supplementation. The focus is clearly on the MHP product Trac Extreme-NO, which the author believes is head and shoulders above all other competitors. So much so that I thought that it was actually written as an ad for that product! I have tried many NO products, with varying degrees of effectiveness. I have not yet tried the MHP version, but I have just ordered some from this website and will report back after I have used it. Anyone else have experience with Trac Extreme-NO?
I'm 5'6" 142 lbs. Have been taking Nitrix past 3 weeks now... 3 times a day but only 2 caps each time.
I feel the pump..(unless it's a perception!!!)...and there are veins that are visible on my arms which I never knew they existed...
I guess everyone reacts differently to different things
aznAnimal
12-20-2005, 08:14 PM
hey i dont feel like im responding for no xplode...i do exactly wut the instruction says any suggestions? should i increase the dose?mxi with sumthin? thanks
Mark909
12-23-2005, 08:41 PM
nitrix and NO-Xplode this stuff works, my arms look and feel fuller.
stevothedevo
12-24-2005, 12:42 AM
AznAnimal,
I'll tell ya why your'e not responding.......
All NO products are basically garbage, they do jack s###. Actually, they can make you s### quite a bit, but besides that ....NO, don't believe the hype.... and even if it does do something, are you willing to pay for a product just to see a little bit of vein or to feel a pump. If you want to feel a pump, just work out and save your $$'s for a decent supplement.
POWERPOPS
12-24-2005, 06:02 AM
I tried the BSN product using $2.00 sample packets. Double dosed, empty stomach, timing, etc. Worked it from all angles and not much satisfaction. Saw it coming ahead of time by looking at the label. Small print with no exact break downs of ingrediants relative to quanities. The same old proprietary small print non-sense. This type of labeling tells me one thing "Buyer Beware." Did like the label, very tacky and chintzy.
Kept up the search and came across a product called DYMATIZE XPAND NO REACTOR. Success at last. Straight up labeling using long standing ingrediants known to produce results. Also, micronized. If you know anything about micronized nutrients they are a step above the rest. For example, the strenght results I get from micronized creatine are way above creatine monohydrate. In addition, not overpriced. As a comment, the pump comes into place in the gym and at hours way after the workout. It actually varies, very unique.
If BSN worked for anyone, good for you. I am posting my success with a NO product to anyone interested. I've been into the Iron Scene for a long time and just wanted to pass on observations and experiences to anyone interested.
Merry Xmas
stevothedevo
12-26-2005, 03:42 AM
The real conclusions on NO:
Summary
Arginine blood flow stimulators ("nitric-oxide" or "NO2" supplements) have been shown to increase vasodilation, but only in unfed people receiving enormous doses through an IV.
Oral arginine supplementation doesn't affect blood flow.
A dose as low as 10 grams has been associated with gastric upset when consumed orally. This dose has no significant effect on glycogen storage, even if it didn't cause diarrhea.
Time release arginine is supposed to lead to a "perpetual pump" effect. New studies have shown this not to be the case.
NO2 was shown to have no effect compared to a placebo on body composition or muscle strength.
It's not possible for us to consume high enough levels of arginine to effectively increase nitric oxide levels.
Copycat NO2 products are no better than the original supplement. In fact, those that contain glycocyamine should be avoided because of potential health concerns.
If you think these products work for you, then you'd better look into the placebo effect.
Arginine might temporarily elevate growth hormone levels, but only if you're able to take unrealistic doses. There's little evidence to support that this short term increase in GH would do anything for your physique anyway.
In one study, arginine aspartate was shown to increase prolactin by an average of 75%. Prolactin is associated with decreased Testosterone levels.
Five grams of arginine consumed during resistance exercise was shown to decrease normal exercise-induced GH output.
The positive benefits of oral arginine supplementation can only be achieved through doses higher than the human body can handle. And most (but not all) of this effect is mediated by insulin. So if you want to have blood flow increases equivalent to a huge IV arginine infusion, just manipulate insulin through other means (which will be discussed in the next article.)
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=556124 (For the whole article.)
pu12en12g
12-26-2005, 04:35 AM
Do any companies that produce Nitric Oxide supplements off free samples through their website?
Yes.
Ergopharm does
pu12en12g
12-26-2005, 04:36 AM
i dont understand how one NO product can be superior to the next. as long as they all hav 3g of aakg or whatever, they should all be the same. right??
No
Complete Nitric Oxide information:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=573903
_SYmmETry_
12-26-2005, 05:13 AM
I would have to say that out of all the ones I have tried the two that worked the best were the Fizogen Blast cycle and Diesel nutrition- NOS Ether.
These two gave me good results.
chilln2music
12-28-2005, 08:32 AM
What about White Blood???
pvdude
12-28-2005, 09:19 AM
Has anyone used NOW Arginine & Ornithine.
NumberTwentyTwo
12-28-2005, 09:23 AM
Has anyone used NOW Arginine & Ornithine.
Not that I know of.........
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=445990&highlight=now+arginine
ErforceMan
12-29-2005, 05:04 AM
AznAnimal,
I'll tell ya why your'e not responding.......
All NO products are basically garbage, they do jack s###. Actually, they can make you s### quite a bit, but besides that ....NO, don't believe the hype.... and even if it does do something, are you willing to pay for a product just to see a little bit of vein or to feel a pump. If you want to feel a pump, just work out and save your $$'s for a decent supplement.
He has a good point...NO's are good for the first few workouts, then the body adapts and then it does nothing for you....sucks huh? drink a protien fruit smoothie 30min before you work out, I'll bet money that you'll get a better pump with that other than an NO.... I used NO-xplode...it's garbage....I used AMPED by MetRX....it's ok....but I start relying on it just to get out the bed and to the gym but my workouts were no different....I found myself getting hooked on the caffine thats in it.....
rmk1212
12-29-2005, 06:50 PM
It didn't hit me for a few days..that it untill i did arms. Arnold says the pump makes him want to cum. And that he didn't shy away from the pain but he runs to it. that's what it was like for me on arm day. (the run to the pain part) My arms started to swell so much i thought they would burst, and it hurt more and more. but i just kept banging rep after rep. I didn't know where it was coming from. I wanted more pain and kept doing more. And again on leg day. I find it works best when working your extremities.
broomeAzoom
12-30-2005, 10:37 AM
I take BSN Nitrix and NO-Xplode Before my workouts and not only do I have seemingly endless energy I almost recover instantaniously! Lets not forget the 24 hr. pump I get too. My biceps get so pumped that it is hard to do a complete curl rep.
VastusLateralis
12-30-2005, 11:39 PM
I tired superpump 250, MRIs NO2, Pumptech, No xplode, and MHPs trac extreme.
Trac Extreme NO works by far the best for me, its one of few noticable, and the pump stays with u for a while. MHP is quality but I never see the name thrown around here on boards, I dont know why?
pu12en12g
12-31-2005, 06:55 AM
What about White Blood???
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=592492
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=594079
cinder88
12-31-2005, 08:51 AM
to steveothedevo
ok arginine does not work for you , im sorry,
but stop spiting out med files you found on the net, for every site that says arginine does not work, i can find 5 that say it does...
i works for myself and many other people on this site, it has been one of the top selling supps in the last 2-3 years...
if it did not work it would have fizzled in 6 months.
personally i like to stack it with
creatine ester
cnidium monnieri
and maca
pu12en12g
12-31-2005, 09:00 AM
personally i like to stack it with
creatine ester
cnidium monnieri
and maca
Good call :cool:
wrstlrJIM
12-31-2005, 12:09 PM
nitrix and NO-Xplode this stuff works, my arms look and feel fuller.
most definitely i like those too. sometimes ill take no-explode before class in the morning. i never fall asleep!
NumberTwentyTwo
12-31-2005, 12:48 PM
it seems like everybody that says no xplode or nitrix either have few posts or red reps.
most likely because they r new here and dont kow about other quality companies and w bsn's marketing......
Freak101
12-31-2005, 01:16 PM
With my experience although there are many good products, one has to look at the content of ingredients provided along.
1.Bsn NO-Xplode/Nitrix
It might be famous and marketed well, but it works the best. Both give great resilts but Nitrix gives better vascularity. In my opinion both are equally as good although if one was to bulk I would give the edge to Xplode purely for some of it 's contents. Both give great results when working out and truly saturate the muscles, prolonging workouts. The give a great pump and longer lasting yet faster effects. The have the basics such as L-Arginine which induce growth for cells which is the products main aim, with some 'newer' contents, which add that final touch to the product.
Again there is no optimum winner, many products have similar contents just diffrentiated brand Images. Products such as Animal Pak and ON have some great Nox products.
PoonTang
01-01-2006, 08:39 AM
used bsn nitrix...nothing to write home about used for 3 mths..switched to pumptech..getting better pumps with it.
Arniceous
01-01-2006, 11:48 AM
Pre Workout (Nutrabolics Ester Stack) Great value, best absorbtion rate due ethyl ester; rivaling any alphaketogluterate or monohydrate.
Floor Drink My own creation of any Sugar Free Drink Mixed with these powder form supplements: Glucosamine Sulfate, HMB, Taurine, Lysine, BCAA, Glutamine, Creatine Ethyl Ester, Caffeine
Recovery Drink IDS Smart Gainer
In addition I take the fallowing: ZMA, Tribulus Terrestris, Androstenetrione, Chrysin, Chromium, CLA, 5-Methyl 7-Methoxy*Isoflavone, Aspirin, Mucuna Pruriens, Flax Seed Oil, Water Loss non stimulant, (Multi-Vitamin- Life Essence) by Pure Essence Labs, Ester C
I use the fallowing Product Lines: SciFit, Higher Power, Nutra Bolics, IDS, Now Foods
MrMetabolism
01-01-2006, 04:54 PM
BSN Nitrix kicked ass for the first bottle or two, then i built up an immunity or something, i will wait a while before taking it again
BSN No-xplode didnt do a damn thing for me (maybe its because i was already using nitrix and cellmass!?!) and i was taking 2-3 times the recommended serving
heard good things about white blood and may try that soon...
Seth25
01-01-2006, 09:49 PM
BSN's No Explode is awesome. Guaranteed, anybody who tries it (you will know right away!) will stay with it! You only need to take it pre-workout... not on non-workout days. This is the leader of no-load creatine / NOS products; often immitated, NEVER DUPLICATED!!
you probably should follow the directions on the label.1 scoop on non workout days.
Seth25
01-01-2006, 09:50 PM
BSN Nitrix kicked ass for the first bottle or two, then i built up an immunity or something, i will wait a while before taking it again
BSN No-xplode didnt do a damn thing for me (maybe its because i was already using nitrix and cellmass!?!) and i was taking 2-3 times the recommended serving
heard good things about white blood and may try that soon...
12 weeks on 4 off.
tituslo
01-05-2006, 02:42 AM
is there a concensus to which one is the best?
randall_truscot
01-08-2006, 04:34 PM
im contemplating on which NO2 product to buy. im using NO-Explode right now and its metoker. im think of super pump250 or superchard or xpand. m on a budget thoa dn i need it relativly cheap.
NumberTwentyTwo
01-08-2006, 04:38 PM
im contemplating on which NO2 product to buy. im using NO-Explode right now and its metoker. im think of super pump250 or superchard or xpand. m on a budget thoa dn i need it relativly cheap.
if your on a budget get shock therapy..its the best/cheapest
superpump is great but u get the ****s form it
Lars21
01-08-2006, 04:59 PM
I've used NO-Xplode. It's great but the price sucks. Dymatize Xpand was good for the price. I'm about to order Shock Therapy, the price is definitely better.
ironMachine525
01-08-2006, 05:00 PM
No-Xplode has been working for me till recently i've upped the Scoop count to 3
Maybe switching over to another product soon
Sean15782
01-09-2006, 01:03 PM
Has any one here tried tried nutrex's new NO2 product, NIOX, if so please post your results. If its as good as Lipo-6 or their other products im sure it will be a great product. My only concern is the dosage amounts since it is in pill form.
Thanks,
Sean
ironMachine525
01-10-2006, 02:19 PM
Has any one here tried tried nutrex's new NO2 product, NIOX, if so please post your results. If its as good as Lipo-6 or their other products im sure it will be a great product. My only concern is the dosage amounts since it is in pill form.
Thanks,
Sean
pill forms take to long for me...Lipo-6 is it any good >? never tried it
nightraven086
01-11-2006, 12:39 AM
i guess i'll put in my reasons. Right now I'm trying nitrix because its cheaper than NO2 and has high popularity within bb.com
BUT.. my choice for the best nitric oxide that i have experienced is MRI NO2.
Why NO2. Last summer i wanted to change my average 5'10" 150lb physique. Yeah, its the slim & slender kinda body. Anyways,.. I tried the no2 and started hitting the gym. I was in the H.S. baseball team so I guess you can say I was pretty fit. But after H.S. I just couldn't have time to work out. NO2 was like my magic pill. After months of working out, I had a significant change in a month. I was only half way my 180 cap bottle and my co-workers were saying that I was getting bigger.
I too noticed because my shirt was getting a little tighter. I went to the gym by myself so i really had no spotter and i only used machine weights. I remember starting off at 5 sets of 90 lbs. Then the next workout day, 90lbs seemed kinda light so i tried 120 lbs and only did 3 sets of it. Then the next workout day i tried 120 and it was kinda stayed there until it got easy.
Two weeks later I tried to go for 150 and wow, it was not super easy but i managed to do a set. Its all machine weights and i know its way different than free weights but I did notice the strength increase. Some people thought I was on steriods because after working out for about 45 minutes, i was all jacked up.
To fast forward, I was doing 3 sets of 180 by the time my bottle was gone. This all happened in less than 6 weeks because it was that summer that i went to summer school and it was 6 weeks long.
I stopped working out about a month later unfortunately but now i'm trying to regain what was lost. This time I'm using nitrix.
I'd say that NO2 is the best overall product. This answer is not permanent because I still am going to try no-xplode and currently using nitrix. Hopefully they are just as good. To me that is.
nightraven086
01-11-2006, 12:43 AM
oh i forgot to add it with this.. I ended up gaining 17 pounds of lean muscle. Even my doctor was suprised. He was like " wow, your last check up 2 months ago you were 145lbs and now your 167? What kind of muscle supplement are you taking?" I said protein.
2 Scoops
01-11-2006, 07:15 AM
oh i forgot to add it with this.. I ended up gaining 17 pounds of lean muscle. Even my doctor was suprised. He was like " wow, your last check up 2 months ago you were 145lbs and now your 167? What kind of muscle supplement are you taking?" I said protein.
!!!!!
2 Scoops
01-11-2006, 07:16 AM
pill forms take to long for me...Lipo-6 is it any good >? never tried it
wow strong sig lifts.
bizkitlift4life
01-11-2006, 09:04 AM
I am 15 years old, just starting supps. I had taken creatine monohydrate before, and recently dropped that for NO-Explode and I'm also taking glutamine and One-a-day's Men's Health formula. I have gotten amazing results from NO-Explode and have woken up in the middle of the night with a huge effin' pump!!! I have felt better, and been able to lift a lot more. I started it two weeks ago, and i had maxed out on bench 2 wks. earlier at 210 (i know its not a lot but it was big compared to the 135 from a year earlier!!!!) But ne ways, in 4 weeks, i upped my bench to 245 and am also improved in all other lifts. It flippin' rocks!!!
Sean15782
01-11-2006, 10:04 AM
Creatine and NO2 can be taken together.... they serve different purposes in the muscle building process. Anyway, its potential ineffectiveness is my only hesistance toward NIOX, I am not sure if the pill dosage will be strong enough. But i suspect it may be absorbed better in liquid form then the solid pills currently on the market.
Lipo-6 is a great fatburner, probably the best overall on the market! I would recommend it to any one, but please dont expect it to "melt" the fat off. You MUST change your diet and increase your cardio!
If anyone has tried NIOX please post up your results.
Thanks,
Sean
ironMachine525
01-11-2006, 10:59 AM
Creatine and NO2 can be taken together.... they serve different purposes in the muscle building process. Anyway, its potential ineffectiveness is my only hesistance toward NIOX, I am not sure if the pill dosage will be strong enough. But i suspect it may be absorbed better in liquid form then the solid pills currently on the market.
Lipo-6 is a great fatburner, probably the best overall on the market! I would recommend it to any one, but please dont expect it to "melt" the fat off. You MUST change your diet and increase your cardio!
If anyone has tried NIOX please post up your results.
Thanks,
Sean
i will try it a little and see if works or not...as for cardio i keep track of my overall cardio everyday
Morning - 30-45 mins on the Bike
Evening - 25-30 mins of walking or jog
MSURifleman
01-11-2006, 01:54 PM
Question.....what is the difference in NO-Xplode and Nitrix?
ironMachine525
01-11-2006, 04:37 PM
wow strong sig lifts.
thanks..that's about a year ago and i recently slacked off for 3 months due to a nasty divorce case..i'm going up in weight through the winter and spring time,that's why i'm setting my new goals for september
casual
01-11-2006, 04:59 PM
i always have to run to the wc after taking no-xplode. is that the case with anyone else?
Hunter5
01-11-2006, 05:48 PM
Question.....what is the difference in NO-Xplode and Nitrix?
ya I wanna know that too.
I took No-Xplode a week ago and now I don't feel anything from it. The first day I took it I was crazy, then about the third day I got dizzy and headaches. Couple days later I lowered the dosage to 1 1/2 scoops and now I don't feel much. I think Im gonna finish this bottle then try something else and add more creatine to the supplement dosages. Is there anything I could do to make the no-xplode better/work?
i always have to run to the wc after taking no-xplode. is that the case with anyone else?
Yes except I call it the bathroom.
NumberTwentyTwo
01-11-2006, 09:10 PM
Question.....what is the difference in NO-Xplode and Nitrix?
noxlode is more of an energy drink w arginine and creatine=powder form
nitrix is arginine in pil form
MrMetabolism
01-12-2006, 07:34 AM
no-xplode is a pre-workout energy booster that increases NO levels and has a tiny bit of creatine as well
nitrix is 100% NO booster (which is why i think it works way better than no-xplode) - stack with Cellmass for your CEE and glutamine and youre set
ironMachine525
01-12-2006, 11:37 AM
Can't we just combine all 3 Bsn Products ?
Nitrix..No-Xplode..Cell Mass
kiltwearingwop
01-12-2006, 04:37 PM
Can't we just combine all 3 Bsn Products ?
Nitrix..No-Xplode..Cell Mass
If you are being state up, then Hell yea, straight from a BSN rep Nitrix and X-plode are made to be used together, Cell-mass is just a bonus-But BSN is a great product. I said it a million time the more you pay for a product the better it is.
ironMachine525
01-12-2006, 06:11 PM
If you are being state up, then Hell yea, straight from a BSN rep Nitrix and X-plode are made to be used together, Cell-mass is just a bonus-But BSN is a great product. I said it a million time the more you pay for a product the better it is.
Great so all i need now is the Nitrix and i'm ready
Sean15782
01-12-2006, 07:17 PM
If you want the most bang for your buck, honestly, forget the NO-Xplode, its totally unneccessary, just use the cash on a good weight gainer or condoms, you dont need a preworkout "intensity amplifying supplement" Your gains will be due to the arginine in the nitrix combined with the creatine in the Cell mass. Not the caffeine loaded NO-Xplode
-Sean
kiltwearingwop
01-12-2006, 07:31 PM
If you want the most bang for your buck, honestly, forget the NO-Xplode, its totally unneccessary, just use the cash on a good weight gainer or condoms, you dont need a preworkout "intensity amplifying supplement" Your gains will be due to the arginine in the nitrix combined with the creatine in the Cell mass. Not the caffeine loaded NO-Xplode
-Sean
Wow, that's great, but The caffeine helps with more intense work-outs, I don't know,if you know this but, I does help you grow when you have one of these.
DUD3MAN
01-12-2006, 08:13 PM
question here but its a little off topic, im loading on creatine right now (cell tech if that makes a diff) , anyhow ive got NO2 that i was taking but stopped because i read youre supposed to while loading and then 5 days after loading. any idea why 5 days after loading? also why stop while loading at all?
Sean15782
01-12-2006, 08:22 PM
Considering I am one of the few people on these boards who is a certified personal trainer, I do know what is neccessary to complete difficult workouts. I am certain a good mrp shake will do more for growth then NO-xplode. If you eat the right foods you will not need a caffeine supplement. This is all assuming the NO-Xplode works for you without the headaches and the ****s that are so common! If it does, thats great, but for how long? You WILL build a tolerance to the caffeine, it's just a matter of time. Do you really want to be cycling your preworkout energy drink? Plus have you tried the stuff, its like drinking acid flavored fruit punch.
-Sean
kiltwearingwop
01-12-2006, 09:50 PM
question here but its a little off topic, im loading on creatine right now (cell tech if that makes a diff) , anyhow ive got NO2 that i was taking but stopped because i read youre supposed to while loading and then 5 days after loading. any idea why 5 days after loading? also why stop while loading at all?
since I ALSO am a certified trainer. Yes keep loading Celltech it is awsome and does work, follow the directions and you will notice NO2 is NOT creatine together they will help, but I don't care what the cheap B#$&ards say MuscleTEch is a great company with the research budget to back up there claims.
P.S. sean 1234 certified trainers a dime a dozen,(so whoopty doo) look at 24 hour fitness, since "some" people get sleepy on mrps before work-outs thats not a option, and since pre-workout formulas are a billion dollar market, maybe they are on to something.......Oh yea I've been using caffine for 14 years and I still only use 400-600 mgs, so there goes that theory.
Evil 47
01-13-2006, 08:46 AM
Im taken Nitrix and it came with samples of Xplode and Creatine, I feel the affects (more reps, muscle expanding, lots of stamina, shortened recovery time). Ill give it a 9 outta 10 because it does what it sais witch is Recovery, Muscle Mass, Strength, and Stamina. Real good. I can feel my triceps getting bigger after I do my football workouts with Bench, Thousands of Pushups and more.
DUD3MAN
01-13-2006, 12:38 PM
since I ALSO am a certified trainer. Yes keep loading Celltech it is awsome and does work, follow the directions and you will notice NO2 is NOT creatine together they will help, but I don't care what the cheap B#$&ards say MuscleTEch is a great company with the research budget to back up there claims.
P.S. sean 1234 certified trainers a dime a dozen,(so whoopty doo) look at 24 hour fitness, since "some" people get sleepy on mrps before work-outs thats not a option, and since pre-workout formulas are a billion dollar market, maybe they are on to something.......Oh yea I've been using caffine for 14 years and I still only use 400-600 mgs, so there goes that theory.
thanks the for the response, any reason why i have to wait 5 days after loadin on cell tech though until i can start NO2 again?im just curious.
kiltwearingwop
01-13-2006, 08:20 PM
thanks the for the response, any reason why i have to wait 5 days after loadin on cell tech though until i can start NO2 again?im just curious.
I have read several reasons,for this but the one that make the most sense to me is that they will fight for absorbtion.now with that said PumpTech you don't have to wait so I don't think you really have to, but just follow the the loading phasepart of celltech. The hardest part is drinking it on off days, unless you like sweet stuff. I use the carb control on off days. Now with all that crap said look at it like this: If you take both at the same time and get results, then you have to ask yourself "which one gave me results" and if take one at a time or just for a while and you see results you know that it works for you then add the second one(NO2)and you advance your result even more then you know that you found a good stack-if you add the NO2 and the results stay the same then you know the NO2 does not work-I hope I did not confuse you.
MVPlaya
01-13-2006, 10:48 PM
Yeah use that extra money on condoms.
Sean15782
01-14-2006, 11:51 AM
Great to know you have been using a supplement for 14 years and you still can't spell it's name (Caffeine). I'm sorry I did not realize that we needed to take a supplement to help us in every facet of our lives. Just because a market exists, does not mean that the product is necessary. Its called creating a market, one of the foundation principles of marketing. If I create a formula and tell you it will give you an intense, mind blowing workout, with extreme energy, of course you will buy it. I never said caffeine was not a legitimate energy enhancer, I was simply stating that in building muscle and maximizing workouts, the good nutrition of an mrp will do more for you than an energy stimulant. Im not saying MRP's are effective for preworkout energy. Something like oatmeal would be much better at that time. Caffeine or no caffeine, if you are truly determined to reach your goal you will get there. And that is a fact. Just because you need caffeine stimulants to get through your workouts doesn't mean everyone does. Maybe you should start taking something to sleep better. And I don't even need to ask if you take Viagra.
-Sean
Just tried NO-Xplode for the very first time, and not only was it great tasting (orange citrus ice) it has got to be the most amazing supplement I have ever taken. I couldn't believe it! Today was shoulder day, and my shoulders are my weakest part. I was pressing twice as much as normal on all my exercises, it was nuts! I couldn't believe it. Right now, after my workout, I can actually even flex my shoulders, they are pumped right up... I didn't think you could get a pump with your shoulders. Didn't get much in the way of veins, but I actually have 3 heads popping out! Its crazy! My shoulders look huge! Wish it would've been bicep day, can't wait to see the results, I already get a huge pump on them naturally. First NO product I have ever tried, and it was AMAZING!
kiltwearingwop
01-14-2006, 02:37 PM
Great to know you have been using a supplement for 14 years and you still can't spell it's name (Caffeine). I'm sorry I did not realize that we needed to take a supplement to help us in every facet of our lives. Just because a market exists, does not mean that the product is necessary. Its called creating a market, one of the foundation principles of marketing. If I create a formula and tell you it will give you an intense, mind blowing workout, with extreme energy, of course you will buy it. I never said caffeine was not a legitimate energy enhancer, I was simply stating that in building muscle and maximizing workouts, the good nutrition of an mrp will do more for you than an energy stimulant. Im not saying MRP's are effective for preworkout energy. Something like oatmeal would be much better at that time. Caffeine or no caffeine, if you are truly determined to reach your goal you will get there. And that is a fact. Just because you need caffeine stimulants to get through your workouts doesn't mean everyone does. Maybe you should start taking something to sleep better. And I don't even need to ask if you take Viagra.
First off; jerk-off I don't have sleeping problems, and your wife dosen't complain!! So take your natural, holistic F@got advice and use on somebody who really cares about your f@g advice THIS forum is about the best NO supplement so people who read it want to know about supplements not your homo advice about oatmeal. So Mr. Personal trainer bite my crank!!!!! I think Mtv is looking for you on TRUE LIFE:I don't know sh*t
Sean15782
01-14-2006, 05:07 PM
I didnt know you were so mature, why have you been hiding it all this time! Nitrix is an NO supplement, NO-Xplode is not. I use nitrix with great results, I never said NO was ineffective. You are making NO-Xplode into a supplement that it is not, I was simply correcting you. There is nothing holistic about the truth. I tried NO-Xplode for myself and it worked well the first few times, however, it's effects lessened each time I used it. This happens to most everyone I know who has tried it. That is why I feel it will eventually turn out to be a waste of money. If you are looking for a good NO supplement I would try nitrix.
-Sean
Evil 47
01-14-2006, 05:18 PM
Im taken Nitrix and it came with samples of Xplode and Creatine, I feel the affects (more reps, muscle expanding, lots of stamina, shortened recovery time). Ill give it a 9 outta 10 because it does what it sais witch is Recovery, Muscle Mass, Strength, and Stamina. Real good. I can feel my triceps getting bigger after I do my football workouts with Bench, Thousands of Pushups and more.
Nitrix
kiltwearingwop
01-14-2006, 08:36 PM
I didnt know you were so mature, why have you been hiding it all this time! Nitrix is an NO supplement, NO-Xplode is not. I use nitrix with great results, I never said NO was ineffective. You are making NO-Xplode into a supplement that it is not, I was simply correcting you. There is nothing holistic about the truth. I tried NO-Xplode for myself and it worked well the first few times, however, it's effects lessened each time I used it. This happens to most everyone I know who has tried it. That is why I feel it will eventually turn out to be a waste of money. If you are looking for a good NO supplement I would try nitrix.
-Sean
well You are RIGHT on the Effects part of NO-Explode,but it still is KIND-of a NO product,but as I said before it was ment to be used with Nitrix and that was straight from BSN. Now you mention pre-workout products,and this is where it gets sticky, THIS IS MY OPINION but,ALL NO2 products seem to go away after the first or second bottle, I feel like I have to switch products every other bottle. Some just seem to last longer then others.
UN TCH A BULL
01-14-2006, 11:26 PM
Extreme NOS2 By Body Conditioning Solutions is an amazing nitric oxiode product. I was alittle skeptical about this product until a friend of mine stacked it with BODY CONDITIONING's "E-BOMB." He obtained amazing results so i gave the NOS2 a whirl. I have used both TWIN LABS Andro Nitrate Fuel and BSN's NO-explode and got great results, however the pumps I experienced while using Body Conditioning's NOS2 were WILD!!!! Hours later my muscles would still be pumped. Sometimes i found it hard to grip weights because my forearms were so huge. Countless people at my gym asked me what i was supplementing with, because the pumps are so freakish and noticable. NOS2 also has kre-alkalyn which is great.This stuff is absolutly amazing and i would recommend it to anyone.
Mister_A
01-15-2006, 10:02 PM
My two favorites that have worked awesome for me.
1. CL White Blood
2. Twinlab Nitrate 3 Fuel Shot Liquid
DUD3MAN
01-16-2006, 09:11 AM
I have read several reasons,for this but the one that make the most sense to me is that they will fight for absorbtion.now with that said PumpTech you don't have to wait so I don't think you really have to, but just follow the the loading phasepart of celltech. The hardest part is drinking it on off days, unless you like sweet stuff. I use the carb control on off days. Now with all that crap said look at it like this: If you take both at the same time and get results, then you have to ask yourself "which one gave me results" and if take one at a time or just for a while and you see results you know that it works for you then add the second one(NO2)and you advance your result even more then you know that you found a good stack-if you add the NO2 and the results stay the same then you know the NO2 does not work-I hope I did not confuse you.
thanks for the explaination, makes sense.
DIESELWARRIOR
01-17-2006, 07:17 AM
Ok, Let me first say that many of you here (So called professional personal trainers,lol, don't know a Sh**t about supplements). How about do some research and then state that NO-Explode is not a no2 supplement...Bodybuilding.com called it No2 Product of the year. Plus before saying something please read the label and the substance listed on the label!!!!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html (for those, who know everything)
I used BSN no-explode for about a week now and i feel dramatic increase in energy amd mental focus...i also feel the pump during and after each workout...THE stuff is Great!!!
kiltwearingwop
01-17-2006, 06:24 PM
Ok, Let me first say that many of you here (So called professional personal trainers,lol, don't know a Sh**t about supplements). How about do some research and then state that NO-Explode is not a no2 supplement...Bodybuilding.com called it No2 Product of the year. Plus before saying something please read the label and the substance listed on the label!!!!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html (for those, who know everything)
I used BSN no-explode for about a week now and i feel dramatic increase in energy amd mental focus...i also feel the pump during and after each workout...THE stuff is Great!!!
Bodybuilding.com called it the best product of the year, what do you know? a web site that sells NO-Explode. That means it must be true! Hey, I saw a web site on Bigfoot it must be true! No-explode is not a COMPLETE No2 product it is a blend, period! Sean15782 is wrong and right, it is a NO2 product but it has things in it that can have negitive effects on alot of people. It's a Pre-workout formula, now I don't know about you, but I don't want to waste a pre-workout formula on non -workout days, Thats why I use pure NO2 products(Pumptech) on those days. now this is a question to people who have been workingout for more the 2 years, Do you guys feel that No2 loses its effect after a bottle or two then you have to switch to find the effects again, I have been using No2 "product"for two years now and I am starting to think that it is a short term product, and stop wasting $ on it!
MrMetabolism
01-17-2006, 06:39 PM
for sure man
i used nitrix for some time but i lost the massive pumps over time, ive been off for about 3 wks now and will pick up another bottle soon to see if i can achieve the same pumps as i first did, if not i guess i will be trying white blood
Open Palm
01-17-2006, 09:54 PM
Will NO-Xplode or other Nitric Oxide products help with cardiovascular things? Like a 2k or 6k Erg test for rowing (Super intense cardio about 6.5 minutes). Or is it strictly a muscle building supp. I ask because I row and lift religously, and its rowing season, so building muscle gets a little harder. Will Nitric Oxide Help performence cardiovascularly?
Just tried NO-Xplode for the very first time, and not only was it great tasting (orange citrus ice) it has got to be the most amazing supplement I have ever taken. I couldn't believe it! Today was shoulder day, and my shoulders are my weakest part. I was pressing twice as much as normal on all my exercises, it was nuts! I couldn't believe it. Right now, after my workout, I can actually even flex my shoulders, they are pumped right up... I didn't think you could get a pump with your shoulders. Didn't get much in the way of veins, but I actually have 3 heads popping out! Its crazy! My shoulders look huge! Wish it would've been bicep day, can't wait to see the results, I already get a huge pump on them naturally. First NO product I have ever tried, and it was AMAZING!
that crap makes me vomit.....not that it isn't legit, just somethin about it actually makes me vomit
MrMetabolism
01-18-2006, 10:22 AM
Will NO-Xplode or other Nitric Oxide products help with cardiovascular things? Like a 2k or 6k Erg test for rowing (Super intense cardio about 6.5 minutes). Or is it strictly a muscle building supp. I ask because I row and lift religously, and its rowing season, so building muscle gets a little harder. Will Nitric Oxide Help performence cardiovascularly?
yes
Open Palm
01-18-2006, 07:27 PM
Ah, excellent. I wont have a heart-attack or anything will I, haha. I just bought some orange speedball, it works really well, next month I'll do No-Explode, I'll only do it for a month because I know my tolerance will buid up.
MrMetabolism
01-18-2006, 09:42 PM
i dont know what orange speedball is but taking no-xplode with any ephedra product is pointless
52PUG
01-19-2006, 06:29 AM
I have been turned onto Cytomax. After an 8 mo. layoff this stuff has me back in the game. I must say I don't workout to look like a bodybuilder. My routine consist of weights, calisthenics and plyometrics. This product keeps me hungry for more. Though this is not advertised an NO, it does contain L-arginine and L-glutamine. My pumps are mild but all I have to do is some light work and I feel like someone is pumping a massive load of blood through my muscles. The recovery is incredible. I can go about my daily routine without complaining about my workout keeping me from exertion. Here are their claims:
Proven Acid Buffering
Stabilizes Power Output
Reduces Perceived Exertion
Reduces O2 Consumption
Increases Recovery Rate
The main ingredient is Alpha-L-Polylactate. This is clustered around amino acids. Even though this product is intended for endurance athletes, it helps a great deal for anyone participating in strength exercises.
BTW: I mix this with coconut water and yogurt.
Tkdmmafighter
01-19-2006, 10:33 AM
im using nitrix, im on my third bottle, i love it, its giving me all day pumps. pretty sweet. i used no-xplode for about 4 months, it was great at first, if you can get past the taste. im gonna switch to a different no product though. i was thinkin pump-tech, but all muscle tech is way overpriced. i think im gonna go with controlled labs NO product, i think its called white blood.
hameronkid
01-19-2006, 11:43 AM
2 words. Green Bulge
gnarlydude04
01-19-2006, 12:47 PM
question here but its a little off topic, im loading on creatine right now (cell tech if that makes a diff) , anyhow ive got NO2 that i was taking but stopped because i read youre supposed to while loading and then 5 days after loading. any idea why 5 days after loading? also why stop while loading at all?
what u couldnt take my word for it!? j/k its cool dude.
staticnm
01-21-2006, 12:11 AM
I was thinking of getting into the NO. Should I stop using Betagen and switch to No Xplode Creatine? Or just take the Nitrix. Tall Thin and Have been trying to put size on for a few monthes with no luck. Thank you
Daniel6
01-21-2006, 01:29 AM
Used diff sups before including no-xplode, but nothing touches fizogen's blast cycle. It can make you lose yourself intensely in the gym for, hours; all pumped up.