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D_Grundman
12-02-2009, 11:08 PM
If I'm taking a preworkout such as White Flood that has Arginine in its propietary blend, is it okay to take arginine from more sources or is that pointless or too much or what?

KevinMK0831
12-03-2009, 06:06 AM
Jack3d: Did nothing but make me itchy

NOXplode: The best imo, most consistent

WF: Was awesome, only took a 1 day sample, was great

SP250: AKA Superdump250, felt nothing

shifter87
12-03-2009, 09:39 AM
Jack3d: Did nothing but make me itchy

NOXplode: The best imo, most consistent

WF: Was awesome, only took a 1 day sample, was great

SP250: AKA Superdump250, felt nothing


I think everyone on this board knows where to get a laxative should the need ever arise.

Superdump250

CONTROLLED LABS
12-03-2009, 01:36 PM
If I'm taking a preworkout such as White Flood that has Arginine in its propietary blend, is it okay to take arginine from more sources or is that pointless or too much or what?
no need for more, but it wouldnt hurt (within reason)

Jack3d: Did nothing but make me itchy

NOXplode: The best imo, most consistent

WF: Was awesome, only took a 1 day sample, was great

SP250: AKA Superdump250, felt nothing

glad you liked white flood, are you picking up a tub? please leave a review of it in the review section of the forum when you get a minute :)

EP2Online
12-04-2009, 01:28 PM
MUSCLEPUMP.. hands down!!!

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amir_clk500
12-04-2009, 01:47 PM
no xplode..was great for me but the taste was terrible

thehulk50
12-06-2009, 12:34 PM
for the taste, effectiveness, price, and overall product quality, white flood FTW!

SwolenONE
12-06-2009, 03:36 PM
i feel that outside of GPLC (plasmatic), nitrates (Thermolife) or ArA (X Factor, ThermaPhoria, Vengeance) and norvaline (vengeance) there isnt much else to look into

hemi426
12-06-2009, 07:56 PM
Well, I've tried: NO-Xplode-- 5, Supercharge -- 8, Xpand Xtreme pumps--7 and NO-Shotgun.... by far the best Nitric Oxide for me --- 9 ..... =)

CONTROLLED LABS
12-06-2009, 08:00 PM
for the taste, effectiveness, price, and overall product quality, white flood FTW!

glad people are catching on and the new raspberry is off the hook. controlled labs was also the first (and one of the few) companies to be certified by bb.com to use a gmp certified facility for all of our products, so the quality is assured. :)

Gillyh
12-08-2009, 03:24 AM
white flood has worked the best for me out of all the no products that i've tried. i am much more mentally focused and do not want to leave the gym. i am totally in the zone. the new raspberry tastes good as well

camo2310
12-08-2009, 04:04 AM
I have gone through two tubs of superpump250 and am now nearly finished no-xplode.I found the pumps are alot better than sp250,great focus and heaps of energy.Does'nt leave me feeling bloated like sp250 did either.

CONTROLLED LABS
12-08-2009, 09:40 AM
white flood has worked the best for me out of all the no products that i've tried. i am much more mentally focused and do not want to leave the gym. i am totally in the zone. the new raspberry tastes good as well

awesome to hear. those who havent tried the new raspberry should try a sample for sure, tastes great :)

wildtacos
12-08-2009, 07:22 PM
I Hope someone reads my post. I don't think there is a best pre-workout supplement and I think most will agree with me. What people are posting is what has worked best for them! Everyone has different reactions to different N.O. products. Best advice I can give is pick one give it a shot and if it doesn't live up to your expectations try again with another product. If you want my opinion on what works for me, well animal pump has done wonders but I just currently bought N.O.-xplode. SO I hope you guys find what YOUR pre-workout supplement is!!! happy face !!!11!one!!eleven sweet

Inspired916
12-09-2009, 06:48 PM
in my opinion i have tried a lot of N.Os and i alwayssssss come back to white flood & Cellucor ;)

wrongpipe
12-09-2009, 07:37 PM
wfffffffffffff

screamin126
12-10-2009, 04:50 AM
No-shotgun. It is cheap I usually pick up a mo. supply for 25 bucks including shipping and works better than no-xplode, I took no-xplode for quite a while.

kevlar1972
12-10-2009, 11:00 AM
I have tried many NO Products. Here's the best IMO in order

1. VPX NO Shotgun
2. MRI Black Powder
3. Muscletech NaNO Vapor
4. CL White Flood
5. Universal Animal Pump

CONTROLLED LABS
12-10-2009, 01:12 PM
in my opinion i have tried a lot of N.Os and i alwayssssss come back to white flood & Cellucor ;)


wfffffffffffff


I have tried many NO Products. Here's the best IMO in order

1. VPX NO Shotgun
2. MRI Black Powder
3. Muscletech NaNO Vapor
4. CL White Flood
5. Universal Animal Pump

thanks for the support, glad you are all enjoying white flood. have you tried the new white raspberry flavor?

dpressma
12-10-2009, 01:27 PM
Current favorite is Animal Pump. Haven't used all that many though.

Dedicated37
12-10-2009, 10:52 PM
SuperPump 250 takes it for me.

Holcster
12-11-2009, 01:30 AM
I gotta say NO products just aren't that important to me. I mean if Im going to the gym, I'm going to the gym and Ill work my ass off. That being said I would take WF now and then and I got the tingles always, haha, but it did help me out for certain workout no doubt. Im going to try some Superpump (dump) soon and I seriously hope it doesn't have the dump effect on me. Really weird how that product effects some people like that but some it doesn't, supplements are just weird in general, i mean how they effect people so differently. There's really never a consensus for anything and I'm not going to try out every damn product so Ill never know. Anyways im rambling but WF was pretty good, ill report back how SP250 is

domzkidot
12-11-2009, 05:50 AM
I gotta say NO products just aren't that important to me. I mean if Im going to the gym, I'm going to the gym and Ill work my ass off. That being said I would take WF now and then and I got the tingles always, haha, but it did help me out for certain workout no doubt. Im going to try some Superpump (dump) soon and I seriously hope it doesn't have the dump effect on me. Really weird how that product effects some people like that but some it doesn't, supplements are just weird in general, i mean how they effect people so differently. There's really never a consensus for anything and I'm not going to try out every damn product so Ill never know. Anyways im rambling but WF was pretty good, ill report back how SP250 is
i never got the dumps from sp250

Jeph77
12-11-2009, 10:00 AM
i never got the dumps from sp250

same here. and it taste great.

CONTROLLED LABS
12-11-2009, 10:40 AM
Anyways im rambling but WF was pretty good, ill report back how SP250 is

glad you liked white flood. which flavor are you using?

Holcster
12-12-2009, 12:43 AM
glad you liked white flood. which flavor are you using?

I had the lemonade flavor, its gone now, going to try the superdump, then when done ill probably try out that new flavor you guys got-raspberry. Also, I don't use an NO product for every workout so I used it over a few months. Towards the end after I mixed it it would be brown looking in the water, where when I first got the flood it was like white misty looking when mixed. It still tasted similar. I was just wondering if it is spoiled/or unhealthy when it turns darker in color? Or if this is a usual occurrence over time?

GI.Zack
12-12-2009, 04:53 AM
I've been taking n.o.explode and it works pretty well but in the past I used black powder and that gave me a great pump-just couldn't handle the blue raspberry flavor blech :P

mliers
12-12-2009, 05:01 AM
Have to say my favorite is white flood...just got the new raspberry flavor and I like it a lot better than the lemonade one. Superpump didnt give me the dumps, but I also never got the same effect from it that I got from WF. NO Xplode was probably the biggest waste of money...no effect whatsoever and one time it actually made me have to leave the gym early, so I went back to my WF.

Holcster
12-12-2009, 09:13 PM
i had a sample of that nano vapor today...gave me some endurance but i hated the way it made me feel, gave me some acid reflux and just didn't feel good. IDK prob can't tell after one time but i wont be ordering that trash ever, lol.

CRuss
12-12-2009, 09:33 PM
N.O. Xplode has worked very well for me in the past, currently taking BlackPowder, helps but nothing hugely significant in my pumps... Panning on trying WF and SuperPump next

naturalguy
12-13-2009, 03:54 AM
I Hope someone reads my post. I don't think there is a best pre-workout supplement and I think most will agree with me. What people are posting is what has worked best for them! Everyone has different reactions to different N.O. products. Best advice I can give is pick one give it a shot and if it doesn't live up to your expectations try again with another product. If you want my opinion on what works for me, well animal pump has done wonders but I just currently bought N.O.-xplode. SO I hope you guys find what YOUR pre-workout supplement is!!! happy face !!!11!one!!eleven sweet

Glad you liked Animal Pump, it's very different from other formulas, there is nothing like it on the market

mattasdf
12-13-2009, 08:44 AM
So far I've tried

1) Superpump250
2) No Explode
3) CL White Flood - both flavors

By far, my favorite Pre-workout would be Controlled Labs White Flood. The energy and stamina is there. The raspberry flavor is delicious as well. You won't regret buying White Flood.

CRuss
12-13-2009, 10:56 AM
N.O. Xplode has worked very well for me in the past, currently taking BlackPowder, helps but nothing hugely significant in my pumps... Panning on trying WF and SuperPump next

EDIT: Actually I used animal pump when I first started lifting, unfortunately i did not lift consistently nor did I really know how to properly take supplements with dieting and what not. I am definitely going to have to give it another shot from all the positive feedback here. Thanks for the help guys

CONTROLLED LABS
12-14-2009, 11:23 AM
I had the lemonade flavor, its gone now, going to try the superdump, then when done ill probably try out that new flavor you guys got-raspberry. Also, I don't use an NO product for every workout so I used it over a few months. Towards the end after I mixed it it would be brown looking in the water, where when I first got the flood it was like white misty looking when mixed. It still tasted similar. I was just wondering if it is spoiled/or unhealthy when it turns darker in color? Or if this is a usual occurrence over time?
awesome, you will love raspberry. if you keep the powder open too long (great than 2-3 months, which is the normal usage range, then it will start to get darker from the humidity getting in, but its still fine to use, to prolong it you can keep it in the fridge)

Have to say my favorite is white flood...just got the new raspberry flavor and I like it a lot better than the lemonade one. Superpump didnt give me the dumps, but I also never got the same effect from it that I got from WF. NO Xplode was probably the biggest waste of money...no effect whatsoever and one time it actually made me have to leave the gym early, so I went back to my WF.
awesome, the raspberry tastes like candy, I look forward to it every time. :)

N.O. Xplode has worked very well for me in the past, currently taking BlackPowder, helps but nothing hugely significant in my pumps... Panning on trying WF and SuperPump next
give white flood a shot, you will be a happy camper ;)

So far I've tried

1) Superpump250
2) No Explode
3) CL White Flood - both flavors

By far, my favorite Pre-workout would be Controlled Labs White Flood. The energy and stamina is there. The raspberry flavor is delicious as well. You won't regret buying White Flood.
sweet, thanks for the great feedback :)

bigboiperry
12-16-2009, 10:13 AM
My top 3 would be:

1) White Flood
2) Super Pump 250
3) Vasocharge

lynchmob92
12-16-2009, 02:10 PM
has anyone out there tried D-Bol?? does it really work?

fallingreason
12-16-2009, 03:19 PM
SuperPump250 FTW! by far the best I have used. Gaspari never lets me down.

xchuiix
12-16-2009, 04:45 PM
I“ll go for Super Pump 250.

CONTROLLED LABS
12-16-2009, 06:23 PM
My top 3 would be:

1) White Flood
2) Super Pump 250
3) Vasocharge

awesome, white flood is one heck of a great value. which flavor are you using?

bmw97m3
12-16-2009, 07:50 PM
no xplode!

bigboiperry
12-17-2009, 05:42 AM
awesome, white flood is one heck of a great value. which flavor are you using?

I am currently using the lemonade. Going to try the Raspberry next

macmoney
12-17-2009, 09:26 AM
wrong thread lol

CONTROLLED LABS
12-17-2009, 09:34 AM
I am currently using the lemonade. Going to try the Raspberry next

awesome, the raspberry is my favorite, it tastes amazing :)

bigboiperry
12-18-2009, 05:15 AM
awesome, the raspberry is my favorite, it tastes amazing :)

Def going to try it out.

Dacookie
12-18-2009, 08:15 AM
Got white flood, its pretty damn good, good pumps but the taste is terrible.Il have to try the new raspberry.

CONTROLLED LABS
12-18-2009, 01:45 PM
Def going to try it out.
awesome, leave us feedback when you do as its very important to us

Got white flood, its pretty damn good, good pumps but the taste is terrible.Il have to try the new raspberry.

both should taste good, but I prefer the raspberry. how much water and how many scoops did you use? was the water cold? what are you comparing the taste to (what other pre products have you used)?

The-French
12-19-2009, 11:42 AM
superpump 250 works for me. I think it's better than no xplode but I think I will try other products.

I have a question : do you take other supplement with no products? like creatine ?

Aviator101
12-24-2009, 07:48 AM
Hey, i started of gym with No Xplode was a bit over-rated (For me) not as impressive as super pump,. That was great for me, but since i started using Fierce by SAN, iv'e been gyming like an animal dude, it's crazy. Also it has a decent amount of creatine in it to (4g). It will definitely psych you up for gym to.

james1045
12-24-2009, 01:29 PM
I prefer not toe waste money on this product, after using about 3 grams of straight L-Arginine(Now's) before workouts and seeing the same results that I did with the Pinnacle NOx2 I was taking.

I have however noticed better recovery in general from this product...and pinnacles

L-Arginine works and its dirt cheap. I was looking around and i found a article talking about some herbal stuff that is supposed to increase nitric oxide.

Also Horny Goat Weed: herb that inhibits an enzyme called PDE-5 which breaks down nitric oxide

This stuff is good for people like me that are on a budget

giuseppe_p
12-24-2009, 03:45 PM
Hemavol!

Chocolate-Wheysted
12-24-2009, 04:46 PM
Superpump hands down i have tryed N.O XPLOD, MRI BlackPowder, and VPX noshotgun and superpump always came out on top and felt alot stronger

liv2pb
12-25-2009, 06:00 PM
biorythmes arnge Krush is the best to me. Strong pumps, no jitery caffein high. has patented NOS @ Kre-Alkaline. its also time released so its better for recovery (stays in system for 8 hours).
ive tried
pump fuel
black powder
no xplode (hate that ****)
Xpand extreme pump
super charged
Fast twitch
super pump 250

Arnge Krush is AWESOME!!!

hulkhoganjr.
12-26-2009, 01:09 AM
biorythmes arnge Krush is the best to me. Strong pumps, no jitery caffein high. has patented NOS @ Kre-Alkaline. its also time released so its better for recovery (stays in system for 8 hours).
ive tried
pump fuel
black powder
no xplode (hate that ****)
Xpand extreme pump
super charged
Fast twitch
super pump 250

Arnge Krush is AWESOME!!!
NO-xplode endorsed ronnie coleman..what's better to see?

Eunectes92
12-26-2009, 04:18 AM
white flood

CONTROLLED LABS
12-28-2009, 11:31 AM
white flood

glad to hear it, what flavor do you have?

alphaproject
12-28-2009, 01:57 PM
Nitroceps perhaps.... That was the newest thing that gace me some serious results. I just felt stronger with 1 usage and I think I had taken some Monster Hitman with it. But... I doubt that would have given me such a strength boost.

I wish I could try out like 3-4 days sample worth to see if it was really the nitroceps.

Dibatista
12-29-2009, 11:17 AM
One thing to keep in mind about PlasmaJet. I think people confuse products that give a pump with products that are stimulants. Some are both. Some contain a small amount of creatine, have an NO matrix and also contain stimulants. Products like PlasmaJet and pure NO products will not give you that mind racing, heart pumping, drive feeling that Jacked, NO-Xplode, SP250 will. It will work as an antioxidant, give a little pump, and aid in other areas. My opinion is that PlasmaJet is best used in combination with a good creatine product and a good pre-workout NO supplement for best results. Example: SP250, Novedex XT (Test Booster), SizeOn and PlasmaJet; or, any other [Insert Brand] NO/Creatine combination. Just my 2 cents for what it is worth...https://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif

From the reading I've been doing this makes sense. SP250 is definitely my supplement of choice

CTDeuce
12-31-2009, 06:38 PM
Nitroceps perhaps.... That was the newest thing that gace me some serious results. I just felt stronger with 1 usage and I think I had taken some Monster Hitman with it. But... I doubt that would have given me such a strength boost.

I wish I could try out like 3-4 days sample worth to see if it was really the nitroceps.

thanks bud! Odds are that it was in fact the NitroCeps since it's an intense product...and I sure hope you get the chance to run a bottle soon and let us know what you think!

RjThaMan
01-01-2010, 02:02 PM
Beta NOX From Ids gave a good pump and energy with no crash afterwards.

mayd
01-02-2010, 05:49 AM
This product is awesome for pumps and muscle recovery. I haven't tried other products, but this one works well for me. I've taken it for one month and have definitley noticed some gains in in lean muscle and workout duration. I have lifted off and on since I was in high school and I have recently taken it up seriously. When using this product my muscle recovery is so quick. With my normal workouts, I would normally leave the gym being barely able to use the body area I targeted that day. With NO XPlode (2 scoops 30 minutes prior to workout on an empty/semi empty stomach), I feel like I could continue lifting for hours. Rest 5 minutes between exercises, not sets, and your muscles feel refreshed and strong all over again.

Amazing product with definite results for me. Eat a handful of raw walnuts to help nausea--if you have problems with the taste and sensitive stomach like me.

5'11"
175-180 Lbs

Dan May
US Air Force in Greece

AlphaCrisis
01-09-2010, 04:12 PM
I have tried superpump and NO Shotgun. I have to say I like the feeling of Superpump more.... Makes me feel more ready to pump, but I like the pre workout protein in NO Shotgun.

I am interested in trying white flood.

Filip_Filipovic
01-10-2010, 10:22 AM
I've tried naNO Vapor, NO Xplode, Superpump 250 and NO Shotgun, and all of them worked on the other way on me.
naNO Vapor- Man you can feel the heat next day and you have big motivation.
NO Xplode- you feel muscle fulnes all day.
Superpump 250- Best pumps and exelent workouts, but I had problems with sleep.
NO Shotgun- Good pumps, good workouts.

bubba24681012
01-10-2010, 05:25 PM
i used dark rage by MHP and that stuff is crazy... sick pumps energy focus. all you wanna do is lift more wieght and you feel as if u never have to stop.
But i was wondering if anyone has used Jack3d because i want to try that next and it seems to have good reviews and i want to make sure im not down grading from dark rage to jack3d.

CONTROLLED LABS
01-10-2010, 08:41 PM
I am interested in trying white flood.

what is holding you back? especially given the fact that we have free samples (check link in my signature below for details) :D

bly3
01-11-2010, 12:11 PM
White Flood works great, almost too great. Once in awhile I felt like I had blasted 3 lines of blow when taking that stuff. Id have to literally lay down on my couch for 30 minutes to calm down..

velocityrob
01-11-2010, 12:49 PM
White Flood works great, almost too great. Once in awhile I felt like I had blasted 3 lines of blow when taking that stuff. Id have to literally lay down on my couch for 30 minutes to calm down..

Sounds like a Slim X review. :D

(Sorry, Tank!)

bjjbadboy
01-11-2010, 08:42 PM
Whats the difference with Dark rage from MHP and TRAC. I have used TRAC before and loved it not to much creatine, so never put on water weight and always good pumps just not great.

Does white flood have creatine also or is it just an NO

Im off two sessions of Animal Cuts and was by far the best supp that I have used so I was thinking about sticking with universals NO/creatine.

I am a fighter that is getting back to business. need the strength and the help to get through workouts but cant really afford to put any extra weight on

What should I go with..

PS no no-explode or anything like that not even a big superpump fan feel like its generic

CONTROLLED LABS
01-12-2010, 06:56 PM
White Flood works great, almost too great. Once in awhile I felt like I had blasted 3 lines of blow when taking that stuff. Id have to literally lay down on my couch for 30 minutes to calm down..
it is very potent :D glad your enjoying it. what flavor do you have?

Sounds like a Slim X review. :D

(Sorry, Tank!)
lmao :Dh


Does white flood have creatine also or is it just an NO



creatine free by design. for creatine, stack it with green magnitude (or green bulge)

ossizen
01-12-2010, 06:59 PM
For me, It's CEL Nox Surge. Pumps are almost too much, but wow. I feel like I could keep going.

The blue raspberry is very good. Much easier to take in than NO Xplode. And the scoop sizes are much smaller.

bly3
01-13-2010, 07:49 AM
it is very potent :D glad your enjoying it. what flavor do you have?

lmao :Dh

creatine free by design. for creatine, stack it with green magnitude (or green bulge)




lemonade, which tastes very good considering all the **** in it. Havent actually used it in a half a yr since I am on a cut and do some good cardio daily (I fear if I had white flood and ran, my heart would rip out of my chest). For those that dont think these products are strong, I beg to differ haha.

liverpool63
01-13-2010, 06:22 PM
Has anyone experienced a "immunity" to superpump 250. After a bad bought with some creatine i decided to try an NO product for the first time. After reading alot of reviews on here about some ppl having to slowly work into it because it was such an energy shock and all i expected to be high as a kite. However i slowly worked my way up to 3 scoops prior to workout on a completely empty stomach and havent really had considerable results. My pumps are a little better, strength gains have not been overly noticed and when i take it i dont really notice a change in myself physically throughout my workout (none of the explosive workouts as the label so vividly states). I do get the wonderful, as one bb member who i forget who it was put it, "superpoops" but thats about it. Anyone else experience such results or lack thereof?

no offence or nufin but i take superpump250 and i think its great i only take 1 scoop at a time twice a week i ony use it when doing my legs and back and it gives me very gd pumps and i can also go for longer i think its one of the best ,
if its not working for you it can mean that your diet is not that great, also can mean that you are taking it far too often and too many scoops at a time.. after taking superpump for about 12 weeks you should go off it for a while as it stops working after a while aswell.

The top four nitric oxide products on the market are,
1.labrada supercharge
2.superpump250
3.NO-XPLODE
4.phd V-max Pump

at least one of these should work well for you

CTDeuce
01-13-2010, 06:27 PM
The top four nitric oxide products on the market are,
1.labrada supercharge
2.superpump250
3.NO-XPLODE
4.phd V-max Pump


I'm 100% sure you have not tried Nitroceps.



and from the looks of your post....hemodraulix either.

termi
01-13-2010, 08:17 PM
BSN's No Explode is awesome. Guaranteed, anybody who tries it (you will know right away!) will stay with it! You only need to take it pre-workout... not on non-workout days. This is the leader of no-load creatine / NOS products; often immitated, NEVER DUPLICATED!!

hahaha. nah superpump250 all the way !

'' we dare you to train without it''

thebeast110
01-14-2010, 08:29 AM
From the reading I've been doing this makes sense. SP250 is definitely my supplement of choicehttps://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif

Yes, I've enjoyed sp250. Most NO products i've tried are alright... definitely don't expect a huge difference after using them though.

CONTROLLED LABS
01-14-2010, 01:32 PM
lemonade, which tastes very good considering all the **** in it. Havent actually used it in a half a yr since I am on a cut and do some good cardio daily (I fear if I had white flood and ran, my heart would rip out of my chest). For those that dont think these products are strong, I beg to differ haha.

absolutely. try the raspberry sample, I think you will like it even more (its my personal favorite too)

why not try it for lifting?

bjjbadboy
01-14-2010, 01:33 PM
BSN's No Explode is awesome. Guaranteed, anybody who tries it (you will know right away!) will stay with it! You only need to take it pre-workout... not on non-workout days. This is the leader of no-load creatine / NOS products; often immitated, NEVER DUPLICATED!!

hahaha. nah superpump250 all the way !

'' we dare you to train without it''


I was about to be like NO explode is crap till I read down....

I have heard very good things about superpump but for some reason feel that there is still better....I was think sp250. WF/GM, or Universals NO/creatine

does your heart really feel like its going to ripp out of your chest? Most of my work outs are done HIIT so my heart rate is always up there.

should I even bother with a NO/Creatine...Im not trying to get bigger need to maintain my weight just need help getting through the workouts and to get stronger, most of the time by the time I life I already ran/sprinted, sparred either wrestling MT or BJJ, school work then lift

Paul2x
01-14-2010, 03:49 PM
I was big White Flood and Super Pump fan, but recently switched to PPN's new Gun Powder.

I'm hooked, totally blew the others out of the water. (For me at least)

My father and training partner both recently switched to is as well and so far they both love it as well.

I'm interested to hear what others think of it.

-Paul

termi
01-14-2010, 06:10 PM
''does your heart really feel like its going to ripp out of your chest''


err yeah u will never want to come off it dude believe in me... also be a man and take two scoops before your workout lol

bly3
01-14-2010, 10:37 PM
absolutely. try the raspberry sample, I think you will like it even more (its my personal favorite too)

why not try it for lifting?

I use it for lifting. But I am doing HIIT/MMA training nearly everyday after lifting right now so I'm really not looking at any NO products as my heart is pumpin pretty hard during the workouts.

187TKD
01-15-2010, 04:06 AM
what do you guys think about combining nitrix with superpump 250 ive tried nitrix before and loved it because it gave me energy throughout the day but not superpump 250.
how about combining both preworkout?

jhschuma
01-15-2010, 07:56 AM
I think HemoRage by Nutrex is the best stuff I've ever used. Full awesome instant pumps and crazy drive and focus...normally just using one scoop!

Back Double Biceps18
01-15-2010, 10:15 AM
what do you guys think about combining nitrix with superpump 250 ive tried nitrix before and loved it because it gave me energy throughout the day but not superpump 250.
how about combining both preworkout?

Sounds expensive, and not really necessary.

CONTROLLED LABS
01-15-2010, 11:43 AM
I was about to be like NO explode is crap till I read down....

I have heard very good things about superpump but for some reason feel that there is still better....I was think sp250. WF/GM, or Universals NO/creatine

does your heart really feel like its going to ripp out of your chest? Most of my work outs are done HIIT so my heart rate is always up there.

should I even bother with a NO/Creatine...Im not trying to get bigger need to maintain my weight just need help getting through the workouts and to get stronger, most of the time by the time I life I already ran/sprinted, sparred either wrestling MT or BJJ, school work then lift

give the wf/gm (white flood/green magnitude) combo a shot, you will love it. we also have free samples

str8outtacuse
01-19-2010, 01:00 PM
I just ordered some more WF(raspberry), I used it last spring and I loved it. I have tried SP250, NOXplode, NANOvapor, black powder, Jacked, and a few others.

I am hyped for it to arrive, I love how you actually get 50 FULL servings per container. SP250 works pretty well for me and tastes the best (grape cooler) of any pre-workout ive ever tried. But i use 2 scoops per workout so it ends up being only 20 servings, even though on the container it says 40 servings.

As far as energy, side effects, and pump goes, WF kicks ass in every category.

Bigjerdog
01-19-2010, 03:38 PM
I think HemoRage by Nutrex is the best stuff I've ever used. Full awesome instant pumps and crazy drive and focus...normally just using one scoop!

Hello All,
New here... but figure I ought to start somewhere. I was a big fan of the Lipo 6 Black when it came out. So naturally I was also real excited about Hemorage. Waited and Waited... I have been on Nano the better part of a year and love it. But When I bought my jug of Hemo I was VERY disapointed. Not nearly the same pumps I got from NanoVapor. Just switched off the Nano for SP250 and was very impressed. I will go back and forth between Nano and SP250 for the time being until i see something else that looks worth trying. Jackd seems to be pretty popular. I may try that soon. Im pretty new to training and supplements (1year) but it just seems like its really hit and miss and depends more on the person than the Supp. What seems to work great for some... not so much for others

CONTROLLED LABS
01-19-2010, 06:39 PM
I just ordered some more WF(raspberry), I used it last spring and I loved it. I have tried SP250, NOXplode, NANOvapor, black powder, Jacked, and a few others.

I am hyped for it to arrive, I love how you actually get 50 FULL servings per container. SP250 works pretty well for me and tastes the best (grape cooler) of any pre-workout ive ever tried. But i use 2 scoops per workout so it ends up being only 20 servings, even though on the container it says 40 servings.

As far as energy, side effects, and pump goes, WF kicks ass in every category.

awesome assessment, the value with white flood is quite amazing :)

jhschuma
01-20-2010, 08:17 PM
Hello All,
New here... but figure I ought to start somewhere. I was a big fan of the Lipo 6 Black when it came out. So naturally I was also real excited about Hemorage. Waited and Waited... I have been on Nano the better part of a year and love it. But When I bought my jug of Hemo I was VERY disapointed. Not nearly the same pumps I got from NanoVapor. Just switched off the Nano for SP250 and was very impressed. I will go back and forth between Nano and SP250 for the time being until i see something else that looks worth trying. Jackd seems to be pretty popular. I may try that soon. Im pretty new to training and supplements (1year) but it just seems like its really hit and miss and depends more on the person than the Supp. What seems to work great for some... not so much for others


I didn't get any pump or anything else from Nanovapor. Kinda the opposite of you. And thought superpump sucked too. Everyone's different I guess.

Paul2x
01-22-2010, 01:06 AM
''does your heart really feel like its going to ripp out of your chest''


err yeah u will never want to come off it dude believe in me... also be a man and take two scoops before your workout lol

LOL , I love it, 1.5 scoops. Feel like on got ants crawling all over me and I'm all set.

I'm hooked.

arshah
01-22-2010, 07:24 AM
has anyone tried n0 extreme from cellucor, i'm thinking about hitting that up

SwolenONE
01-24-2010, 04:12 PM
Plasmatic (featuring glyccarn) has been the end all be all of NO for me

Im stoked to see the upcoming 4 logs of people who have tried plasmajet and/or hemavol and will be comparing them to Plasmatic!

qwe1230
01-27-2010, 06:24 PM
BSN no xplode

the first time you take, youll see what its all about. crazy tunnel-vision like focus

Zevier
01-27-2010, 11:47 PM
BSN no xplode

the first time you take, youll see what its all about. crazy tunnel-vision like focus

notice the "first time you take" yeah the first time... no one wants to cycle that **** after 2 days use, it's useless, i had 3 scoops of it everyday, the 2nd day i ever used it i didn't even get half the pump i got after first use then after that it had almost no effect at all.

TheHealthyDJ
02-02-2010, 11:42 PM
No-Xplode!!

cashbox
02-06-2010, 03:15 PM
What about Dymatize Xpand Xtreme Pump ? Have someone tried it ?

sebes
02-08-2010, 05:32 AM
usplabs jack3d is the best NO supp iv taken by a mile! it gives amazing energy and focus and its cheap!

thebeast110
02-08-2010, 12:19 PM
From the reading I've been doing this makes sense. SP250 is definitely my supplement of choicehttps://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif
Yup, I've had good responses to sp250.

White Flood works great, almost too great. Once in awhile I felt like I had blasted 3 lines of blow when taking that stuff. Id have to literally lay down on my couch for 30 minutes to calm down..

Hmmm might have to give White Flood a try

biggerthanyou89
02-08-2010, 04:08 PM
[QUOTE=bdpettit;4853874]If I was to use L-Arginine in powder form. How much should I take in daily?[/QUO


dude make sure yo take that right before, i mean right before your workout, and make sure you are already drinking your no2 because as soon as you take that hit the weights, and hit them hard because l- Arginine powder form filters through your body very quickly... and in regards to how much, as always read the directions and warnings first.

CONTROLLED LABS
02-09-2010, 02:00 PM
Yup, I've had good responses to sp250.


Hmmm might have to give White Flood a try

at the very least you should try the free sample :)

blazd88
02-10-2010, 06:36 AM
Been on Dark Rage for awhile and have liked it. At first half a scoop was plenty now a full scoop in necissary. Concentration was almost too intense and the pump was great.

Yesterday I tried my free sample of White Flood and HOLY $&!#. The pump and strength was insane. I have never had that amount of blood in the muscle I was working. Had to wait hours to shower due to the pump. Strength was through the whole workout. It had me putting up more reps of higher weight than I thought Id be able to do. I did dips and was able to lock out every rep I wanted where normally I fade at 8 to 10. The mental wasnt as strong as DR but the rest made me a believer and a new customer.

Im definately getting more!!!!

CONTROLLED LABS
02-10-2010, 09:50 AM
Yesterday I tried my free sample of White Flood and HOLY $&!#. The pump and strength was insane. I have never had that amount of blood in the muscle I was working. Had to wait hours to shower due to the pump. Strength was through the whole workout. It had me putting up more reps of higher weight than I thought Id be able to do. I did dips and was able to lock out every rep I wanted where normally I fade at 8 to 10. The mental wasnt as strong as DR but the rest made me a believer and a new customer.

Im definately getting more!!!!

awesome, glad you enjoyed white flood so much. do you know which flavor you will be picking up yet? :)

WarlordMalice
02-10-2010, 12:45 PM
Just got my WF/GM/PI delivered last night. I just got back from the gym and all I have to say is DAYUM! The raspberry WF tastes great as well as the green apple GM. Not too crazy for the flavor of the raspberry PI but I can live with it until I run out then I'll try another flavor. This stack is a home run IMO and I'll be sticking with it.

WarlordMalice
02-10-2010, 12:50 PM
Not too crazy for the flavor of the raspberry PI but I can live with it until I run out then I'll try another flavor.

Oops, just noticed there isn't yet another flavor for Intrain but I'll stick with it cuz it rocks and just hope they come out with another flavor...hint hint

rgc1279
02-10-2010, 06:17 PM
Oops, just noticed there isn't yet another flavor for Intrain but I'll stick with it cuz it rocks and just hope they come out with another flavor...hint hint

raspberry PI is my favorite tasting cl product ;p

CONTROLLED LABS
02-11-2010, 08:59 AM
Just got my WF/GM/PI delivered last night. I just got back from the gym and all I have to say is DAYUM! The raspberry WF tastes great as well as the green apple GM. Not too crazy for the flavor of the raspberry PI but I can live with it until I run out then I'll try another flavor. This stack is a home run IMO and I'll be sticking with it.
awesome, that is one heck of a combination :)

how did you dose them?

raspberry PI is my favorite tasting cl product ;p

same here, my favorite tasting supp amongst any company I have tried ;)

WarlordMalice
02-11-2010, 10:59 AM
awesome, that is one heck of a combination :)

how did you dose them?


same here, my favorite tasting supp amongst any company I have tried ;)

I just went by the recommendation on the bottles. GM and WF about a half hour before working out and PI during. I need to try combining GM and WF though because I was a little bloated from drinking all that water right before a workout. Experimentation will get everything figured out.

08WVGT
02-11-2010, 12:05 PM
Optimum Nutrition's Vassive NO hands down. Have tried NO Explode was ok, TapOut was ok, Jack3d was pretty good.

SEAviator
02-11-2010, 12:06 PM
best NO product? Having the ****ing intensity to workout as a mad man and as if your life depended on it, to do every rep until you cant do anymore, and then do some more, when you cant and you feel like throwing up, catch your breath and do more,,, now that's how you get a pump..

blazd88
02-11-2010, 07:37 PM
awesome, glad you enjoyed white flood so much. do you know which flavor you will be picking up yet? :)

Acctually not sure what flavor I even had as a sample. It tasted more like bubble gum to me than anything. Definately better than tollerable. Great product!!!!

CONTROLLED LABS
02-12-2010, 08:08 AM
I just went by the recommendation on the bottles. GM and WF about a half hour before working out and PI during. I need to try combining GM and WF though because I was a little bloated from drinking all that water right before a workout. Experimentation will get everything figured out.
yeah, def combine the white flood and green magnitude in one shake, much easier and no detriment involved :)

Acctually not sure what flavor I even had as a sample. It tasted more like bubble gum to me than anything. Definately better than tollerable. Great product!!!!

samples are the white raspberry flavor :)

WarlordMalice
02-12-2010, 10:00 AM
yeah, def combine the white flood and green magnitude in one shake, much easier and no detriment involved :)


samples are the white raspberry flavor :)

As I read this I just did that and it was surprisingly good. I never would have thought those flavors would go together without a funny face as the result

Paul-T
02-14-2010, 06:17 PM
So far I've tried WF and SP250, of the two WF was sooooo much better. I was focused all workout, and when I went to work later that night I had so much energy. I felt great all night, and all I took was a single sample! I'm definitely gonna try a CL stack sometime (unless it gets a bit pricey).

As for SP250, it wasn't the same. My third time taking it tonight. I had a pretty good workout, but it didn't give me any focus, which was disappointing. Near the end of the workout my chest felt a little funny, almost like I had too much caffeine, but that might also have been from the running. Maybe SP250 will get better the more I use it, I have maybe 10 servings left so that'll let me get a better feel for it.

After I finish the SP, I ordered some Jack3d for cheap, looking forward to good stuff from that!

CONTROLLED LABS
02-14-2010, 08:18 PM
As I read this I just did that and it was surprisingly good. I never would have thought those flavors would go together without a funny face as the resultglad to hear it, they all go together very well


So far I've tried WF and SP250, of the two WF was sooooo much better. I was focused all workout, and when I went to work later that night I had so much energy. I felt great all night, and all I took was a single sample! I'm definitely gonna try a CL stack sometime (unless it gets a bit pricey).

As for SP250, it wasn't the same. My third time taking it tonight. I had a pretty good workout, but it didn't give me any focus, which was disappointing. Near the end of the workout my chest felt a little funny, almost like I had too much caffeine, but that might also have been from the running. Maybe SP250 will get better the more I use it, I have maybe 10 servings left so that'll let me get a better feel for it.

After I finish the SP, I ordered some Jack3d for cheap, looking forward to good stuff from that!
thanks very much :)

MiKeBreH
02-16-2010, 11:46 PM
Jack3d is by FARRR the BEST!

ive tried NO-Xplode...it completly SUCKS compared to Jack3d. GO GO GO BUY IT

-NO-Xplode $55 (waste of money and gives u gas/****s, insomiac, etc.)

-Jack3d $30 (GREAT boosts and you will be able to sleep nice at night...also no exploding out my ass)

nitroduck
02-19-2010, 09:39 AM
Trying the WF/GM/PI combo because of everyone's great results. Will report back! Should be here Tues or Weds next week.

soopamyko
02-19-2010, 12:05 PM
Here is my list that ive tried:
No xplode
White Flood
Nano Vapor RTD
Black Powder
Jack3d
SuperPump 250
Shock Therapy

i need to get a tub soon i havent had N.o for a month..

bv1
02-19-2010, 12:35 PM
I tried Animal Pump
and
Black Powder

AP-Better Pumps (which stay a tad longer)
BP-more energy and stamina

I like both of em

soopamyko
02-19-2010, 01:07 PM
how could i have forgotten AP! yeah it was pretty nice!

CONTROLLED LABS
02-19-2010, 01:20 PM
Trying the WF/GM/PI combo because of everyone's great results. Will report back! Should be here Tues or Weds next week.
awesome, let us know how it goes. all three of those are awesome as a combo. only 99 bucks right?

Here is my list that ive tried:
No xplode
White Flood
Nano Vapor RTD
Black Powder
Jack3d
SuperPump 250
Shock Therapy

i need to get a tub soon i havent had N.o for a month..

how would you rank them?

nitroduck
02-19-2010, 01:46 PM
Yup, only 99. Will report back after the first few workouts!

Bingbatten
02-20-2010, 10:16 AM
I liked white blood because i don't think I need the benefits from caffeine and the other stimulants.

Cyberia
02-20-2010, 04:24 PM
Jack3d FTW!!!!!!!! The energy, drive and concentration is insane!

CONTROLLED LABS
02-20-2010, 06:29 PM
Yup, only 99. Will report back after the first few workouts!
very nice price. looking forward to your feedback

I liked white blood because i don't think I need the benefits from caffeine and the other stimulants.

very true, and great for nigh time workouts

WarlordMalice
02-23-2010, 02:16 AM
I've been using the GM/WF/PI stack for about a week now and the end results are pretty good except that I have a huge energy crash a few hours later. That normally wouldn't be a problem except that since I workout in the morning and work a 10-12 hour shift at night it sucks getting super tired a couple hours into my shift. I've narrowed it down to the White Flood from the caffeine so after a bit of research I guess I'll give White Blood a shot. I've never needed any stims for my workouts anyway so I won't be losing out on anything by eliminating the caffeine. It's going to suck tossing out a pretty much new tub of WF though :(

CONTROLLED LABS
02-23-2010, 09:56 AM
I've been using the GM/WF/PI stack for about a week now and the end results are pretty good except that I have a huge energy crash a few hours later. That normally wouldn't be a problem except that since I workout in the morning and work a 10-12 hour shift at night it sucks getting super tired a couple hours into my shift. I've narrowed it down to the White Flood from the caffeine so after a bit of research I guess I'll give White Blood a shot. I've never needed any stims for my workouts anyway so I won't be losing out on anything by eliminating the caffeine. It's going to suck tossing out a pretty much new tub of WF though :(

try reducing your serving and take it with a rice cake or granola bar

bv1
02-23-2010, 11:19 AM
how come BSN No explode varies from awesomnes to total misery?

shawn23218
02-23-2010, 04:20 PM
breaking in my first of white flood. I've used explode and superpump but i think its time to give this its shot.

jpass90
02-23-2010, 04:40 PM
i've tried sp250
n.o. shotgun
jacked 3d
and animal pump
I have had great pumps with all of them. However, i recieved the free samples of CL products and used all of them in one workout and had the greatest chest workout of my life. I not only lifted significantly more than usual, but my intensity was sustained throughout the whole workout and i broke all my PRs in every lift that day. The next day i gave my remaining sp250 to my brother and ordered white flood, green mag, purple intrain, and purple wraath and have continued to have amazing workouts and blow past previous PRs. In addition i gained 7lbs (some is water but a good deal is muscle) in the first two weeks of these products in addition to strength gains.

I highly recommend trying the samples of these products because they were really worth it for me.

CTDeuce
02-23-2010, 04:41 PM
for reference

free samples of Nitroceps and RagNOrok Ultra are available at our website!

Kurt Hustle
02-23-2010, 07:12 PM
Hey all I've also asked this question in the "overall fat burner" topic...but I was wondering if it would be ok to take White Flood along with Animal Cuts?...or is there too much stimulant between both supplements? Would like the Flood to help with my lifting while the Cuts benefits my cardio. Or is this just out of the question....I do my cardio right after lifting...so my plan was to down the Cuts with my flood shake. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

skdmup
02-23-2010, 11:20 PM
iv never really used these pre wo products as in the past iv tried them, and never felt the effects. even on my very first time using them, i did half strength...nothing, next wo full strength...nothing. i must just be one of those poor buggers.lol. i dont drink coffee or anything so i dunno. allthough iv hit the weights pretty hard again this year, i started to struggle to get to the end of my session, so i gave WF a go. didnt feel any effects, but it gets me to the end of my session at least and with energy to spare. so thats pretty good for me. not sure what else i can do. any suggestions. im thinking i should try white blood as i work out after work at about 7 ish?

WarlordMalice
02-24-2010, 03:19 AM
I just ordered some White Blood so I can try a no stim nitric product. I get awesome pumps from White Flood but it seems my body doesn't dig caffeine too much so I figure WB should still give the awesome pump. I also picked up some GlycerGrow since I've read pretty much all good things about it. I expect nothing but great results based on my experience with other CL stuff so I'm looking forward to adding it to the stack.

rockeo
02-26-2010, 01:30 PM
all sounds good in here :D
was wondering if anyone likes "Shock therapy" by Universal - im looking for a N.O./Pump, Creatine & Energy product so, this seems to be a good choice! what do you guys think about Shock Therapy, any one tried it with good results ??
Thank you in advance - enjoy your week :cool:

arshah
02-27-2010, 04:57 AM
all sounds good in here :D
was wondering if anyone likes "Shock therapy" by Universal - im looking for a N.O./Pump, Creatine & Energy product so, this seems to be a good choice! what do you guys think about Shock Therapy, any one tried it with good results ??
Thank you in advance - enjoy your week :cool:

One of the best imo, works great, i'm on it now, i get a really good pump from it, energy last throughout the whole workout, good vascularity, and no crash later

rockeo
02-27-2010, 05:07 PM
One of the best imo, works great, i'm on it now, i get a really good pump from it, energy last throughout the whole workout, good vascularity, and no crash later

hey thank you kindly bro - much appreciated the info - thats all i needed to hear someone confirm the Goodness of Universal Supps, i will be getting some Shock Therapy :D enjoy ur Progress & weekend to the fullest :cool:

BOOSTEDDUDE
02-28-2010, 10:25 AM
hey thank you kindly bro - much appreciated the info - thats all i needed to hear someone confirm the Goodness of Universal Supps, i will be getting some Shock Therapy :D enjoy ur Progress & weekend to the fullest :cool:

Yeah man. ST is good and last a LONG time. I think you get 50 servings out of the tub because they only suggest one scoop. I've been using it for months and it's a great staple in my workout. I also use other pre-workout sups on different days so that's why this one has last forever. Gotta like the antioxidant formula they provide and it's very smooth and never upsets my stomach. Enjoy!

fenderacoustic
02-28-2010, 11:04 PM
That's a lot for me for a NO supp. I just tried Expand. Enjoyed the beta-alanine. Other than that it was a $30 container of laxative for me. Instant laxative. LOL. I'll have to write a review. The Jack3d caught my eye. But as you might have figured out by my title I am on a budget. It's only $26 bucks until you realize it will only last you two weeks if you take the recommended dose. I am leaning towards the Shock Therapy for my next NO supplement. I have only had good experiences with Universal products and 50 servings for around $30 seems like a good value. Will let y'all know.

CONTROLLED LABS
03-01-2010, 09:27 AM
breaking in my first of white flood. I've used explode and superpump but i think its time to give this its shot.
let us know how you like it :)

i've tried sp250
n.o. shotgun
jacked 3d
and animal pump
I have had great pumps with all of them. However, i recieved the free samples of CL products and used all of them in one workout and had the greatest chest workout of my life. I not only lifted significantly more than usual, but my intensity was sustained throughout the whole workout and i broke all my PRs in every lift that day. The next day i gave my remaining sp250 to my brother and ordered white flood, green mag, purple intrain, and purple wraath and have continued to have amazing workouts and blow past previous PRs. In addition i gained 7lbs (some is water but a good deal is muscle) in the first two weeks of these products in addition to strength gains.

I highly recommend trying the samples of these products because they were really worth it for me.
awesome, glad the samples are working as intended :) thanks for the solid feedback on the stack :)

iv never really used these pre wo products as in the past iv tried them, and never felt the effects. even on my very first time using them, i did half strength...nothing, next wo full strength...nothing. i must just be one of those poor buggers.lol. i dont drink coffee or anything so i dunno. allthough iv hit the weights pretty hard again this year, i started to struggle to get to the end of my session, so i gave WF a go. didnt feel any effects, but it gets me to the end of my session at least and with energy to spare. so thats pretty good for me. not sure what else i can do. any suggestions. im thinking i should try white blood as i work out after work at about 7 ish?
glad to hear white flood worked the best for you

I just ordered some White Blood so I can try a no stim nitric product. I get awesome pumps from White Flood but it seems my body doesn't dig caffeine too much so I figure WB should still give the awesome pump. I also picked up some GlycerGrow since I've read pretty much all good things about it. I expect nothing but great results based on my experience with other CL stuff so I'm looking forward to adding it to the stack.
excellent. what were your issues with the stims?

broeli
03-04-2010, 01:30 PM
The best "NO" product I've tried is either Beverlys Muscle Synergy or Gaspari Plasma Jet.
As far as the others many are mentioning that are NO/pre-workout products the best I've tried are White Flood, SP 250, and Jack3d. I've also used most of the others out there with results but the ones i've listed are what I tend to use and like the best.

CONTROLLED LABS
03-05-2010, 10:00 AM
The best "NO" product I've tried is either Beverlys Muscle Synergy or Gaspari Plasma Jet.
As far as the others many are mentioning that are NO/pre-workout products the best I've tried are White Flood, SP 250, and Jack3d. I've also used most of the others out there with results but the ones i've listed are what I tend to use and like the best.
glad you like white flood, also the cheapest per workout of any of the ones listed above in your post :)

macalenny
03-07-2010, 07:05 PM
I have been taking White Flood and it's good, I tried jack3d too and it felt good too! I wanna know though... is it also important to take l-arginine 3 times a day? and is it better to take l-arginine with ornathine?

CONTROLLED LABS
03-08-2010, 01:56 PM
I have been taking White Flood and it's good, I tried jack3d too and it felt good too! I wanna know though... is it also important to take l-arginine 3 times a day? and is it better to take l-arginine with ornathine?

no need to take it so many times per day. glad you are enjoying white flood, its also one of the best priced (per workout) preworkout products on the market. :)

jesse_lift_box
03-09-2010, 01:45 AM
has anyone ever tryed nano vapour, watd yas think any good?

iForce Dave
03-09-2010, 11:38 AM
For all of you looking for a great Nitric Oxide product that actually WORKS, check out Hemavol, which now has an unbiased 9.9 rating in the bb.com store. I believe this is the highest rated nitric oxide product bb.com carries.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/iforce/hemavol.html

SwolenONE
03-10-2010, 06:12 PM
For all of you looking for a great Nitric Oxide product that actually WORKS, check out Hemavol, which now has an unbiased 9.9 rating in the bb.com store. I believe this is the highest rated nitric oxide product bb.com carries.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/iforce/hemavol.html

very cool, it is a great formula


as Vaugh said, Hema and Plasmatic are among the only two worthwhile NO products on the market

From the feedback Ive seen, nothing can touch Plasmatic but I support unique and innovative formulas and give Hema its due respect as one of few worthy contenders to Plasmatics thrown.

Smitty and a few others recently did comparison reviews Plasmatic to either Hema or Plasma Jet. I was excited, but not surprised, to see all the testers take to Plasmatic overwhelmingly well.

JamesRange62
03-11-2010, 05:23 AM
best one i have ever tried has been N0 by cellucor, but i definitely wanna try M5 and maybe even Hemavol if its really got that good of reviews. But so far N0 was the first Nitric Oxide supp that actually gave me a tingle and really kicked my butt! i was only taking 1/2 doses as well.

soopamyko
03-11-2010, 06:23 AM
awesome, let us know how it goes. all three of those are awesome as a combo. only 99 bucks right?


how would you rank them?

I just noticed i got negged from this thread....i dont understand why but whatever. haters.

No xplode 9/10- first NO product ive tried. I still think its solid. Currently on im the NT version.
White Flood 8/10- I would compare this to Jack3d due to the tingles i got. Solid product.
Nano Vapor RTD 8/10- I admit i love this one, drank this right when i walked in the gym and yeah the pumps were nice.
Black Powder: 7/10It was ok nothing spectacular, energy was there.
Jack3d 8/10: Got me jack3d, tingles, the rush, energy was there.
SuperPump 250 9/10: Took a poo the first time i used it, but the pumps and energy was there.
Shock Therapy 7/10: Taste was ok, it took awhile for pumps to come through.
Animal Pump 9/10: you dont feel it right away but it will deliever!

RyanM04
03-11-2010, 07:37 AM
hands down no-xplode

prepares your mind and muscles to train hard

bbrock293
03-11-2010, 09:07 AM
If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)

jack3D

CONTROLLED LABS
03-11-2010, 11:52 AM
I just noticed i got negged from this thread....i dont understand why but whatever. haters.


White Flood 8/10- I would compare this to Jack3d due to the tingles i got. Solid product.


glad you liked white flood. who negged you?

kmenlumen
03-14-2010, 09:37 AM
I can't only choose one...The perfect NO for me is no-xplode + superpump250

no-xplode for the pump sensation and superpump 250 for the mental focus.

Maybe on day I will try to mix them...but right now I use one of the 2 that I need more before starting my workout.

johnsocr
03-19-2010, 11:43 AM
how many grams of creatine are in jack3d??????????

-=Zeus=-!
03-25-2010, 02:21 PM
For all of you looking for a great Nitric Oxide product that actually WORKS, check out Hemavol, which now has an unbiased 9.9 rating in the bb.com store. I believe this is the highest rated nitric oxide product bb.com carries.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/iforce/hemavol.html
I Force Hemavol

03/24/2010 - Unfortunately, Bodybuilding.com has discontinued this product.

Whats up with that?

jakie201
03-25-2010, 03:39 PM
I Force Hemavol

03/24/2010 - Unfortunately, Bodybuilding.com has discontinued this product.

Whats up with that?

Yea they have done that with a few good products lately. Clearshot was removed as well.

hithard
03-31-2010, 01:34 PM
has anyone ever tryed nano vapour, watd yas think any good?

yeah I treid it. not a big muscletech fan but have to hand it to them this time, pretty darn good pump. i actually liked it better than Jack3d felt more of a real pump, rather than twacked out. Only thing is I believe it has a ton of niacin in it which resulted in my having to go outside all the time to cool down.

hithard
03-31-2010, 01:39 PM
I remember taking AAKG from Sci fit good and cheap, doesnt taste to terrible either. but just a little to plane. Im really looking into dropping some money into Enoxide. the single pill deal is very intriguing.
A buddy of mine let me try 4 of his Plasma jets he loved this product. but 4 didn't do a thing(10 is what you are supposed to take) although another friend took 2-4 while he was on sp250 and said it was bad ass, im thinking placebo effect, or it was just enough to boost him over the edge

stratos21
03-31-2010, 09:17 PM
It seems as though there are 3-5 main brands out there for this product. Bodybuilders on this site seem to promote BSNs NO-expolde more often then any other. Is it more of a marketing thing or does this sh** actually work to their claims?

Personally I have used Gasparis` Superpump 250 for about 6 months. The pumps and energy are for real. This stuff does work good.

Pros.....
Great pumps, energy, and seems to last for at least an hour after taking.

Cons....
-definite bathroom issues during workout and after. ( some may not experience this but most have)
-800 grams container not filled to the top by factory. ( the container is only half filled....WHY GASPARI?????...otherwsie it would be a great deal on the pocket)
-needed to use more then the recommended dosage after a while to notice effects in gym.

I am going to try BSN NO-explode this week for a change and curiosity. Guys I know on this stuff swear by it that it is insane.

I`ll post something later in the week.

jvic85
04-01-2010, 10:07 AM
I currently take and love Black Powder, the best part is i only take on days i work out. I have heard lots of things about cycling on and off can anyone make suggestions on if it is a good idea to cycle off NO products?? any advice is appreciated, thanks.

jony_ry
04-01-2010, 10:36 AM
guys, is there any different if i take only 1 scoop no xplode than 2 or maybe 3 scoops of it?
coz im asian, i never take it more than 1 scoop
thx

hithard
04-01-2010, 10:46 AM
guys, is there any different if i take only 1 scoop no xplode than 2 or maybe 3 scoops of it?
coz im asian, i never take it more than 1 scoop
thx

yeah for sure theres a difference, just like if you drink 12 beers your gona have a bigger buz than if you where to drink 6.
the more AAKG and stims and all the other good **** in No-Xplod the more of an effect it will have on you(bigger pump better vascularity ). unless you way like 130 pounds or something.

TylerB
04-01-2010, 01:38 PM
Just put in a BIG order and got my Jack3d in the mail. My first impression was "damn that's a small tub!" I'm used to the SP250, Shotgun, Shock Therapy, etc. sized tubs. This thing is tiny compared to those big tubs. Oh well...I believe in the hype not the size of the container. This stuff looks promising. I did a lot of research on it and it was toss up between Jack3d and White Flood. I will for sure be trying WF next time. I just came off my Shotgun/Synthesize stack and it was alright. I was looking for something a little more so I read it was pretty much a toss between Jack3d and WF.

Taking Xtend for intra!

RickinKY
04-01-2010, 02:06 PM
Give SciVation Quake 10.0 a try.....

jab50
04-01-2010, 02:10 PM
Just put in a BIG order and got my Jack3d in the mail. My first impression was "damn that's a small tub!" I'm used to the SP250, Shotgun, Shock Therapy, etc. sized tubs. This thing is tiny compared to those big tubs. Oh well...I believe in the hype not the size of the container. This stuff looks promising. I did a lot of research on it and it was toss up between Jack3d and White Flood. I will for sure be trying WF next time. I just came off my Shotgun/Synthesize stack and it was alright. I was looking for something a little more so I read it was pretty much a toss between Jack3d and WF.

Taking Xtend for intra!


Yeah, I'm taking Shotgun (sparingly) after over a year of not having used it. In between that time, I used two tubs of WF (which is pretty great stuff). For some reason, I'm not getting much of anything this time around with the Shotgun.

I also ordered 3 tubs of jack3d. Should get them in 3 more days (takes a little longer to get them here in Japan).

TylerB
04-01-2010, 04:17 PM
Give SciVation Quake 10.0 a try.....

Thanks! I'll definitely keep that in mind next time.


Yeah, I'm taking Shotgun (sparingly) after over a year of not having used it. In between that time, I used two tubs of WF (which is pretty great stuff). For some reason, I'm not getting much of anything this time around with the Shotgun.

I also ordered 3 tubs of jack3d. Should get them in 3 more days (takes a little longer to get them here in Japan).

Shotgun was a pretty hot supp for me. I really liked it (besides the misleading info on the labels) but I started getting pretty immune to it. I took 3 weeks off from all pre-workout supps and just had Jack3d today. 5 min after taking it I could feel the tingle in my arms and calves.

Today was shoulders and I got 7 reps with 100lbs on the dumbbell shoulder press. PR. It was 4. So far I give this stuff 10/10. We shall see if it wears off as time progresses. My gym partner said he was pretty impressed and wants to try some now!

atlninja82
04-01-2010, 05:38 PM
NO-IGNITE for sure.

mangojuice
04-01-2010, 05:52 PM
hands down white flood.... the white rasberry flavor is delicious, ask wolverine himself:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2m5ecf7.jpg

CONTROLLED LABS
04-01-2010, 09:38 PM
Just put in a BIG order and got my Jack3d in the mail. My first impression was "damn that's a small tub!" I'm used to the SP250, Shotgun, Shock Therapy, etc. sized tubs. This thing is tiny compared to those big tubs. Oh well...I believe in the hype not the size of the container. This stuff looks promising. I did a lot of research on it and it was toss up between Jack3d and White Flood. I will for sure be trying WF next time. I just came off my Shotgun/Synthesize stack and it was alright. I was looking for something a little more so I read it was pretty much a toss between Jack3d and WF.

Taking Xtend for intra!


Yeah, I'm taking Shotgun (sparingly) after over a year of not having used it. In between that time, I used two tubs of WF (which is pretty great stuff). For some reason, I'm not getting much of anything this time around with the Shotgun.

I also ordered 3 tubs of jack3d. Should get them in 3 more days (takes a little longer to get them here in Japan).


hands down white flood.... the white rasberry flavor is delicious, ask wolverine himself:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2m5ecf7.jpg
glad you guys are all enjoying white flood, its also one of the cheapest preworkout products per workout :)

05impalaSS
04-02-2010, 12:49 AM
I do like White Flood...It gives me alot of energy to make it through a tough workout. On the other hand it leaves a funky aftertaste. Will CL be making a different flavor eventually? Like Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange, etc...

wildcat90
04-02-2010, 04:42 AM
Magnum's A Bomb is not bad at all. It has a comprehensive blend of different forms of arginine and being a pharmeceutical grade company, you could trust the label to the T.

jab50
04-02-2010, 05:45 AM
glad you guys are all enjoying white flood, its also one of the cheapest preworkout products per workout :)

You have any idea when they're going to have a sale on WF again? I'm up for buying 3 tubs of the stuff if they ever have a buy 2 get 1 free. I might just get the combo of green mag, purple wrath, n WF. I had that before, but I barely used any of the GM and PW since I had some other stuff. Then I had to leave it in the US cuz I couldn't bring it here through customs :( What a waste of good stuff!

jab50
04-02-2010, 05:47 AM
Shotgun was a pretty hot supp for me. I really liked it (besides the misleading info on the labels) but I started getting pretty immune to it. I took 3 weeks off from all pre-workout supps and just had Jack3d today. 5 min after taking it I could feel the tingle in my arms and calves.



Misleading info? Like what? I see the "university tested" thing ad on there, but I couldn't figure out which uni or what study they did online. I think they just say that stuff to make it sound more legit. In my opinion, just go for what works for you rather than what the ad says.

Jeph77
04-02-2010, 09:48 AM
anyone try quake 10.0 and WF ? can you compare the 2 ? im just guna get a small tub for now and quake has 40 servings WF has 25 , WF is my fav so far but i like to try other things before i label it the best .

Donovan93
04-02-2010, 09:56 AM
N.O Shotgun
*Does the job for me :)

WeLustPapes
04-02-2010, 11:13 AM
Finally commenting on the WF sample i got in the mail a few weeks ago. Tried it stacked with the other CL products during one of my workouts...i had a great workout!! Only thing i wasnt too fond of is the taste of WF. Sort of had a weird nasty medicine flavor to it. Other then that which i can get past the taste, good pumps, good workout, no side effects, no crash. Would try the lemonade flavor of it for sure.

Im still taking No-Xplode but with all of these products im wanting to see what gives me the best workout. Besides sending in for the free samples which companys barely do, how can i try products without having to spend $25-$50 a tub? Any way?

CONTROLLED LABS
04-02-2010, 12:01 PM
I do like White Flood...It gives me alot of energy to make it through a tough workout.
glad to hear it :)

You have any idea when they're going to have a sale on WF again? I'm up for buying 3 tubs of the stuff if they ever have a buy 2 get 1 free. I might just get the combo of green mag, purple wrath, n WF. I had that before, but I barely used any of the GM and PW since I had some other stuff. Then I had to leave it in the US cuz I couldn't bring it here through customs :( What a waste of good stuff!
no plans for a wf sale. why the move?

anyone try quake 10.0 and WF ? can you compare the 2 ? im just guna get a small tub for now and quake has 40 servings WF has 25 , WF is my fav so far but i like to try other things before i label it the best .

remember to compare how many servings you need per workout. then you will see wf is one of the best priced preworkout powders on the market per workout :)

jab50
04-02-2010, 12:25 PM
no plans for a wf sale. why the move?



Moved out here to try teaching English in Tokyo. Previously, I did this in Korea for four years, and it wasn't so bad. Pay was pretty good given my lack of previous experience for the job. However, all the noob college graduates have come to Japan (this is the hot spot for some reason), and the market here is totally saturated with teachers. Even with my qualifications and previous experience, it's difficult to find any good paying work when just starting out here (most employees want previous experience and ability to speak Japanese). This wasn't the case in Korea, where there are much fewer foreigners to compete for jobs.

I regret coming here, but after spending over 10k to get set up here (yes, it's THAT expensive), I have determined to last another year and a half. Unless something good comes up, I'm out of here. I should have followed my instincts and went to dental hygienist school in Vegas or something haha. Sounds a lot more fun than what I'm doing here now.

Is WF EVER on sale? Other than the GM/PW/WF combo deal, I cannot remember purchasing it for a lower price.

jab50
04-02-2010, 12:33 PM
BTW, they changed the name of Purple Wrath to Purple Intrain? Purple Wrath sounded pretty awesome. Always made me think of Squirrely Wrath (Foamy).

leblanc
04-03-2010, 06:51 PM
BTW, they changed the name of Purple Wrath to Purple Intrain? Purple Wrath sounded pretty awesome. Always made me think of Squirrely Wrath (Foamy).


No, they are two different products. Both are made by Controlled Labs.

CONTROLLED LABS
04-03-2010, 07:51 PM
Moved out here to try teaching English in Tokyo. Previously, I did this in Korea for four years, and it wasn't so bad. Pay was pretty good given my lack of previous experience for the job. However, all the noob college graduates have come to Japan (this is the hot spot for some reason), and the market here is totally saturated with teachers. Even with my qualifications and previous experience, it's difficult to find any good paying work when just starting out here (most employees want previous experience and ability to speak Japanese). This wasn't the case in Korea, where there are much fewer foreigners to compete for jobs.

I regret coming here, but after spending over 10k to get set up here (yes, it's THAT expensive), I have determined to last another year and a half. Unless something good comes up, I'm out of here. I should have followed my instincts and went to dental hygienist school in Vegas or something haha. Sounds a lot more fun than what I'm doing here now.

Is WF EVER on sale? Other than the GM/PW/WF combo deal, I cannot remember purchasing it for a lower price.
nope never really on sale, price is already amazing per workout

BTW, they changed the name of Purple Wrath to Purple Intrain? Purple Wrath sounded pretty awesome. Always made me think of Squirrely Wrath (Foamy).


No, they are two different products. Both are made by Controlled Labs.

correct

jab50
04-04-2010, 02:11 AM
No, they are two different products. Both are made by Controlled Labs.

Ahh, I guess the "purple" part threw me off. Along with the fact that I got the 3 can deal with PW last time, and now the other stuff is offered with it. I'll have to look into the difference. Thanks!

dblockdedicated
04-04-2010, 08:40 AM
Agreed

binxdajinx
04-05-2010, 09:27 AM
If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)

I've tried straight l-arginine, no-explode, no2 and no2 black powder.
I really like the no2 black powder the best, although pricey and the taste is average, it was the only thing I had results from, and it won 2009 supplement of the year.

But really, every body is different so you have to do your research and know your body :)

Pure-Natural
04-05-2010, 09:28 PM
Axis Labs Hemodraulix taken w/ Purus Labs Muscle Marinade

Defenbach
04-06-2010, 05:51 PM
Okay so a couple years ago I discovered the NO products and started taking NO Xplode. I LOVED it. The pump was just ridiculous. So last august I started lifting heavy again and ordered NO xplode. Since then I've tried other products that are cycling around such as superpump, but I can't stand any of them now. I get a bottle of water and poor out as much of it as I can get away with then add NO xplode. EVERYTIME I go to workout after taking NO xplode I feel like I'm going to vomit after just a couple reps. I've been off it for 3 weeks and have had no effect. Also after 2 weeks the pump was gone. I developed an immunity to the pump. So I gave the rest of my NO xplode to my lifting partner who loves it and I'm going to be ordering JACK3D because I know that the serving size is just 1 scoop so I don't have to fill my stomach with water before lifting and I've heard that it's difficult to build an immunity to it (which I personally doubt). But we will see and I will let you guys know. Thanks!

claudio_rdgz
04-06-2010, 06:07 PM
Okay so a couple years ago I discovered the NO products and started taking NO Xplode. I LOVED it. The pump was just ridiculous. So last august I started lifting heavy again and ordered NO xplode. Since then I've tried other products that are cycling around such as superpump, but I can't stand any of them now. I get a bottle of water and poor out as much of it as I can get away with then add NO xplode. EVERYTIME I go to workout after taking NO xplode I feel like I'm going to vomit after just a couple reps. I've been off it for 3 weeks and have had no effect. Also after 2 weeks the pump was gone. I developed an immunity to the pump. So I gave the rest of my NO xplode to my lifting partner who loves it and I'm going to be ordering JACK3D because I know that the serving size is just 1 scoop so I don't have to fill my stomach with water before lifting and I've heard that it's difficult to build an immunity to it (which I personally doubt). But we will see and I will let you guys know. Thanks!

I know we grow fond of our supplements, I love my muscletech supplements even though it takes heavy sacrifices to afford them

but damn ur post looks like advertising

imo noexplode is awesome as well, but superpump is awesome as well, for get me going

Defenbach
04-06-2010, 06:46 PM
I know we grow fond of our supplements, I love my muscletech supplements even though it takes heavy sacrifices to afford them

but damn ur post looks like advertising

imo noexplode is awesome as well, but superpump is awesome as well, for get me going

Haha, that sucks. An advertisement for what exactly?

Heilman97
04-07-2010, 12:08 PM
I have been taking Buzzerk from Complete Nutrition. I just got back into working out and got "sold" or suckered into buying it with my whey. Taste is awesome on the rasberry ice! I find it is similar to NO Explode i suppose. I am debating in this order to try next. SuperPump 250/ Black Powder/ NO Explode. I like the reviews and apparently you have to try everything to see what works bester personally. Thanks for the posts people!

TeeAye
04-08-2010, 10:00 AM
I'v been taking SuperPump 250 for about 8 months now and i wont work out without it. Couple of buddies have wanted to try it before hand and it doesnt seem to agree with their stomachs at all. That being said i dont take anyother supplements besides eating as healthy as i can. Any suggestions as to what other supplements to take that would go well with SP250?

CONTROLLED LABS
04-08-2010, 01:37 PM
new white flood flavor coming out at the end of the month ;)

amateurbdybldr
04-09-2010, 03:00 AM
OLIMP-LABS KNOCKOUT(http://www.olimp-supplements.com/e_n/index2.php?page=l_pro2&id_pr=46&ids=25&str=2&sh=1) is the strongest cre/arg muscle volumizing nitric oxide product i've ever used . The best thing is that there aren't any carbs or stimulants . I take it with OLIMP LABS THERMO SPEED EXTREME (http://www.olimp-supplements.com/e_n/index2.php?page=l_pro2&id_pr=119&ids=56&str=2&sh=1) for extra buzzz and focus and scull crashing energy!!
Here are the ingredients:
Per 2 scoops
Creatine KNOCKOUT® matrix
9 g
of which:

Creatine ethyl ester malate
3,0 g
Creatine AKG
2,0 g
Di creatine orotate
2,0 g
Tricreatine malate
2,0 g
Glutamine ethyl ester HCl
1,0 g
Taurine ethyl ester HCl
2,0 g
Patented NITRO-VOLL® matrix®
9,2g
Di arginine l-malate
Arginine ethyl ester HCl
AAKG
Citrulline ethyl ester HCl
Citrulline malate
l-norvaline
Patented Endo PH® matrix®
6,8g
Beta-alanine ethyl ester HCl
Guanidynopropionic acid
Glycocyamine
Betaine anhydrous

1 scoop = 14,15 g (30 measuring units)

jruck
04-09-2010, 03:17 PM
I'v been taking SuperPump 250 for about 8 months now and i wont work out without it. Couple of buddies have wanted to try it before hand and it doesnt seem to agree with their stomachs at all. That being said i dont take anyother supplements besides eating as healthy as i can. Any suggestions as to what other supplements to take that would go well with SP250?


I switched from NOXPLODE to Super Pump 250 about 8 months ago. Pumps are just as good as NOX with little to no jitters and noticabley improved recovery and endurance during training. I continue to take it with Higher Power CE3, ON whey protein and opti men multi. Consistant results for me with the combo and no ill effects.

Good luck

jOzz
04-11-2010, 10:03 AM
white flood, shock therapy, and jack3d have worked great for me. great pumps, energy and vascularity, cant go wrong with either :)

TroyZaBeasT
04-11-2010, 10:08 AM
white flood, shock therapy, and jack3d have worked great for me. great pumps, energy and vascularity, cant go wrong with either :)

What do you think is the best out of these 3? jack3d has that 1, 3 d. That S*** is the bomb lol

jOzz
04-11-2010, 10:38 AM
What do you think is the best out of these 3? jack3d has that 1, 3 d. That S*** is the bomb lol

If i were to choose i'd pick jack3d, that stuff is strong :)

thebeast110
04-11-2010, 04:20 PM
Anyone here try C4 by 4-ever Fit? i'm using it right now, and i'm pretty happy with the results
https://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif
http://activehealthsupply.com/images/sportsnutrition/sm/50395-4ever-fit-akg.jpg

Although it's an older product, i've actually used it within the past year and remember enjoying it. I'd say there are some better products on the market right now, but it's still pretty solid

dropforce
04-13-2010, 12:49 PM
Is there any NO2 or good preworkout stuff that has no caffiene, I am very sensitive to caffiene and heart palpatations, any reccomendations?

Bolo23
04-13-2010, 02:47 PM
did noxplod, superpump 250, wf and now im on jack3d. all worked well but jack3d is personally my favorite. i heard 1mr by bpi and quake are gonna be the next things. gonna try a sample of 1mr tomorrow.

CONTROLLED LABS
04-16-2010, 02:19 PM
white flood, shock therapy, and jack3d have worked great for me. great pumps, energy and vascularity, cant go wrong with either :)

glad to hear you enjoyed white flood, also one of the best priced preworkout products per workout :)

raymondjackso25
04-18-2010, 06:42 PM
I've tried N.O. Fury, Nano Vapor, NO Xplode, SuperPump 250, AMP, and Fast Twitch. And out of all the ones I've tried. I get positive response from Fast Twitch. All the other ones, except for SuperPump 250, just make my stomach hurt after one set.

But yeah, i'm done trying out other brands, I'll just stick to Fast Twitch.

CONTROLLED LABS
04-18-2010, 08:31 PM
I've tried N.O. Fury, Nano Vapor, NO Xplode, SuperPump 250, AMP, and Fast Twitch. And out of all the ones I've tried. I get positive response from Fast Twitch. All the other ones, except for SuperPump 250, just make my stomach hurt after one set.

But yeah, i'm done trying out other brands, I'll just stick to Fast Twitch.

do you want a free sample of white flood? if so, check the link in my signature below :)

marcmarc22
04-19-2010, 01:10 PM
Below is a list of Pre-Workout powders I have tried in the past. Infinite Labs Juggernaut is number one for me with Jack3D a close 2nd and Dymatized Xpand Pump in 3rd. I am adding 3g of A-AKG along with my pre-workout supp. and it is giving me great added energy. BUTTT... after reading and reseraching I think I will resort to a homemade mix... this will give me total control over my wants/needs in a true pre-workout boost. If I need more of this or that I can add it myself. So far I have built my homemade pre-workout based off Jack3D but a little more powerful. It looks like this:

- Olympian Labs A-AKG(Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate) 4g
- Primaforce Beta Alanine 4g
- Primaforce 1,3 Dimethylamylamine 75mg (3tabs)
- Optimum Nutrition Creatine Monohydrate 5g
- Optimum Nutrition BCAA 5g

Now I know most of you are saying that it is cheaper maybe to buy a pre-workout than make your own... but I am a hobbiest bodybuilder... I just doing it to look good on the beach... but at least my pre-workout is all quality and I know everything that is going in and for the $$$ it will last just as long as most retail pre-workouts but this way I will be getting what I want and not fussing with... this didnt work or I didnt feel this or there is to much of this.

Infinite Labs Juggernaut = BEST
USPLabs JACK3D
BSN N.O. Explode
Gaspari Nutrition SuperPump 250
Controlled Labs White Flood
Nutrex Research Hemo Rage Black
VPX NO Shotgun
Dymatize Nutrition Xpand Xtreme
Scivation Vasocharge

hithard
04-21-2010, 04:25 PM
For all of you looking for a great Nitric Oxide product that actually WORKS, check out Hemavol, which now has an unbiased 9.9 rating in the bb.com store. I believe this is the highest rated nitric oxide product bb.com carries.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/iforce/hemavol.html

after reading this and checking out some reviews, I decided to order this product.
After Im done working out I am defiantly A LOT bigger and I get a decent pump from it. Liking it, 26 bucks for 16 servings and can only take 4 times a week(may take it to 5) decent price. going to try plasmatic next

RickinKY
04-21-2010, 06:15 PM
I clicked the link and it says that bb.com does not carry the Hemavol, or any iForce supplements......

hithard
04-22-2010, 09:02 AM
unfortunately bb.com doesn't but you can still find it. quick google search

RickinKY
04-22-2010, 09:13 AM
Yeah, I found it at other places....I was just making the statement that the link was dead....It's all good...

Flex_Kavana
04-23-2010, 08:09 PM
Dymatize xpand xtreme
And jack3d...no live for xpand lol wow. Its comparable to jack3d IMO.

Pure-Natural
04-25-2010, 09:10 PM
Eponox
Hemodraulix
Jack3d

G-wood
04-30-2010, 10:56 AM
I am currently taking GNC's Creatine 189 and nanox9 hardcore. I started both of them about 3 weeks ago, and wondering if a good cycle is 6 weeks on, 2 weeks off. Also is it good to take both of them on the same cycle? Thanks for any input

rockeo
05-07-2010, 08:23 PM
Universal's Shock Therapy - Blue razz flavor!
Awesome healthy results :D

WayanWiednya22
05-09-2010, 07:52 AM
Syn-Tec Nutrition sat back and looked at all Nitric Oxide formulas before developing their stand out product Nitrox-Syn...

Nitrox-Syn does not contain Caffeine or Creatine, but instead offers an abundant array of specially selected amino acids (protein building blocks) such as AAKG, Beta Alanine, Citrulline, Histidine, Glycine, Taurine and Valine blended in a power house mix of a 3 phase energy release base formulated with Dextrose, Fructose and Maltrin M100. This matrix is further supported with nutritional co factors such as electrolytes and essential B vitamins which are synergistically formulated to support healthy nitric oxide production through precise nutritional channels.

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transamdroptp08
05-09-2010, 07:56 AM
I have used Controlled Labs products for while and i have had a great expeirence with them, I have tried numerous other NO products but did not like them as much.

CONTROLLED LABS
05-10-2010, 10:06 AM
I have used Controlled Labs products for while and i have had a great expeirence with them, I have tried numerous other NO products but did not like them as much.

you are referring to white flood I assume (based off the thread title)? have you tried the new fruit punch? only $13.50 :eek:

JustiNtense
05-14-2010, 06:55 PM
you are referring to white flood I assume (based off the thread title)? have you tried the new fruit punch? only $13.50 :eek:

It will only last you 10 workouts...


I think it's ridiculous that White Flood recently reduced their serving size by 25. It was one of my favorite pre-workout supplements but now i have to look into something else since CL decided to go down the same route as the other companies.

Questing2Gain
05-14-2010, 09:21 PM
Love Gaspari Superpump. No what i call cracked-outed-ness with Superpump. And it tastes good. Consistent and delicious, and of course it works well!

05impalaSS
05-14-2010, 10:30 PM
Jack3d & White Flood

That is all!

AronP24
05-15-2010, 06:56 AM
Hemavol does what it says...and the "pump" you get...,or at least I get, is almost painful

brilliant product minus the annoying blue coloring

NO HYPE
05-16-2010, 04:39 AM
I have used Controlled Labs products for while and i have had a great expeirence with them, I have tried numerous other NO products but did not like them as much.

Maybe you like WF however, science has demonstrated that oral arginine does not enhance NO distribution and/or vascularity, so maybe you could explain the physiological benefits in which you speak of.

CONTROLLED LABS
05-18-2010, 08:45 AM
It will only last you 10 workouts...


I think it's ridiculous that White Flood recently reduced their serving size by 25. It was one of my favorite pre-workout supplements but now i have to look into something else since CL decided to go down the same route as the other companies.
nothing was reduced at all. serving size was halved and servings per container doubled. same amount of powder per tub (no change to ingredients or ingredient amounts) and same price per tub. continue using what you were using for it. we have 100 serving, 50 serving and now 20 serving sizes

Jack3d & White Flood

That is all!

glad you like white flood, also one of the best values per serving out there :)

DevilDog717
05-18-2010, 04:03 PM
I've been a strong user of the "top" brands. N.O. Xplode, NaNO Vapor, SuperPump250 and NO Shotgun. Hands down SP250 gets my vote. It's by far the best supplement I have ever used. Just sipping it seems to get me going and feeling full!

coss75
05-20-2010, 01:40 PM
Maybe you like WF however, science has demonstrated that oral arginine does not enhance NO distribution and/or vascularity, so maybe you could explain the physiological benefits in which you speak of.

what do you think gives the most vascularity?? this is what i have been looking for for a while!

NO HYPE
05-20-2010, 03:05 PM
what do you think gives the most vascularity??

Nitrates.... hands down [e.g. C-BOL and the upcoming P-BOL]. Nitrates are clinically proven to significantly enhance NO distribution.

LINK --> Arginine fails to elicit enhance NO production, and has no place in NO products (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=492915331&postcount=75)

bloodsimple1234
05-20-2010, 04:11 PM
Dymatize xpand xtreme
And jack3d...no live for xpand lol wow. Its comparable to jack3d IMO.

I agree.Before the new formula I liked it,however there were a couple I liked more.Xpand xtreme pump is up there with the best of them,no nonsense and delivers the goods!

Trauma5951
05-20-2010, 11:10 PM
I cannot for the life of me decide between jack3d and white flood. Never taken an NO product before but it sounds like a good asset...


Jacked seems more time tested and more highly reviewed by the BB community.

juggies
05-21-2010, 01:02 AM
I cannot for the life of me decide between jack3d and white flood. Never taken an NO product before but it sounds like a good asset...


Jacked seems more time tested and more highly reviewed by the BB community.


It's mainly spam dude, Jack3d is little more than a cheap stim. I'm consistently shocked by how many people keep recommending it.

Undoubtedly the best NO supplement is PreSurge Unleashed.

coss75
05-21-2010, 06:19 AM
[QUOTE=NO HYPE;493209431]Nitrates.... hands down [e.g. C-BOL and the upcoming P-BOL]. Nitrates are clinically proven to significantly enhance NO distribution.


that leads me to my next questions: what product has the highest volume of nitrates then? Or is it something you can buy straight like arginine?

CONTROLLED LABS
05-21-2010, 09:16 AM
I cannot for the life of me decide between jack3d and white flood. Never taken an NO product before but it sounds like a good asset...


Jacked seems more time tested and more highly reviewed by the BB community.

white flood has been around 3x as long ;)

its also 50% cheaper per serving at 40 cents per serving

reviews are great and you can get the 20 serving fruit punch for only $13.50 from bb.com

Trauma5951
05-21-2010, 09:59 AM
white flood has been around 3x as long ;)

its also 50% cheaper per serving at 40 cents per serving

reviews are great and you can get the 20 serving fruit punch for only $13.50 from bb.com

I put in the for free sample, but i just placed an order for fruit bunch 50 servings of the flood.

Too impatient to wait for sample and i needed to order some multis anyways :)

Lukj287
05-21-2010, 11:00 AM
TOP NO Pre Workouts:
Torque by Bodyfuel
Hypershock by Myogenix
Jetfuse by GAT



NO XPLODE is just caffeine, i own a supplement store and have been a strength and conditioning coach for 11yrs, caffeine is cheap hence a lot of these companies put so much stimulation in it. They want the person to assume the quality of the product is synonamous with the caffeine. Due to the fact that NO XPLODE is not a time released caffeine and can not only constrict your arteries but will lead to a crash as well. I say, go with a quality product and then if you need more of a kick, buy caffeine tabs, it is cheaper.
Torque and Hypershock are time release caffeine products as well as non bloat creatines, basically the same as NO XPLODE but with an improvement, i also get good feedback from Jet Fuse




If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)

white_russian
05-22-2010, 08:38 PM
Just finished a tub of NO Fury by Six Star and it sucks, dont waste your money on this sh!t.

slappydog
05-23-2010, 09:57 PM
NRGX-LABS OVERDOSE by far the best NO out there. My heart is racing after 2 scoops

deargodno
05-25-2010, 04:09 AM
Had the best focus with White Flood at gym tonight, great workout.

I'm also using SciVation Vasocharge, not the same focus but more of an energy rush.

Can't say which I prefer, though I definitely prefer the taste of berry vaso over white raspberry WF.

jordyb80
05-25-2010, 10:30 AM
If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)

I would pick MMI Nitric Combustion...has anyone else tried it? It puts the rest of the pre workout supps i was using to shame

CONTROLLED LABS
05-25-2010, 01:53 PM
Had the best focus with White Flood at gym tonight, great workout.



awesome to hear. have you tried the white flood fruit punch sample yet?

deargodno
05-25-2010, 08:20 PM
awesome to hear. have you tried the white flood fruit punch sample yet?

not yet, you want to send a sample to Aus? I'd happily review it ;)

CONTROLLED LABS
05-26-2010, 05:28 AM
not yet, you want to send a sample to Aus? I'd happily review it ;)

wish we could, we only send to USA and canada right now. you can get one for 25 cents from bb.com with any order or get the 20 serving white flood for $13.50 :)

popeye95
05-26-2010, 07:53 PM
i am currently taking bsn nitrix and i do knotice a slight expansion is my blood vesels but i does not do what it says. nitrix by bsn is a very expensive n.o. product, but i personaly do not think it works that well.

joecseko
05-31-2010, 08:31 AM
im sure if you take the caffeine out of most of these products...might have different effects...unless they bump up the L-Arginine...that's the chemical that opens up your veins to allow more blood flow...that's why i get the same effects with MaxxPump and Beta Max (Arginine Ethyl Ester 1500mg)

Well, arginine itself has absolutely no vasodilating (vein opening?) properties. The human body uses arginine to produce nitric oxide Which is, among other hings, a vasodilator. NO also plays an important part in bological signaling.

Arginine alpha ketogluterate would be the preferred form. The human body cannot store nitric oxide. AAKG will maintain blood levels of arginine for longer periods of time.

Caffeine itself spends the first portion of it's life as a vasodilator, too. Unfortunately, somewhere through it's half-life it becomes a vasoconstrictor.

I've started using I Force Maximize V2 lately. I'm thrilled with that stuff. I add some Now D Ribose and Primaforce citrulline malate and I'm completely unable to exhaust myself whilst traing. Even on deadlift or leg day. Well, sometimes on leg day

1juggernaut
05-31-2010, 03:32 PM
I have been using Oxidane X by infinite labs for several weeks now. I have seen a huge difference in my definition of my muscles and my recovery time is a lot shorter especially after leg days. I would definitely recommend this product to anyone. check it out at infinitelabs .com

JonHanson21
06-01-2010, 01:08 PM
Has anyone used Dark Rage?

G-wood
06-02-2010, 09:37 AM
Well after reading such good things about controlled labs i decided to order White Flood and to also switch to Green Bulge Creatine. I just finished a cycle of muscletechs nanox9 hardcore, which I liked. I am wondering if it is neccessary to take another NO supplement on top of white flood?

CONTROLLED LABS
06-02-2010, 12:42 PM
Well after reading such good things about controlled labs i decided to order White Flood and to also switch to Green Bulge Creatine. I just finished a cycle of muscletechs nanox9 hardcore, which I liked. I am wondering if it is neccessary to take another NO supplement on top of white flood?

no other NO product is necessary. please post up a log if you have the time once both products come in :)

xtrashake
06-03-2010, 05:01 AM
Muscle asylum projects Altered State... unfortunately taken off the market

jordyb80
06-04-2010, 07:39 AM
Im all about Nitric Combustion!

G-wood
06-04-2010, 10:20 AM
no other NO product is necessary. please post up a log if you have the time once both products come in :)

Just took WF for the first time yesterday and had a great workout, did shoulders and legs, and it was awesome, I felt great. Going to start a Green Bulge cycle today also. I am going to cycle them together, 6 weeks on, and 2 weeks off. Does that sound like a good cycle for these 2 together?

kevgeez
06-04-2010, 11:06 AM
Guys what's wrong with ordering L-Arganine instead of NO products?

Those NO products cost too much.
L-A is the same thing right?

NO products list L-A as the main primary ingredient.

PuffyBoy
06-04-2010, 11:30 AM
Hi guys , i didn't want to creat a new thread so I post my question here .Can you help me to decide which option should i choose : 1) Brand No product like superpump ,Xplode or other . + beta alanine + creatine or 2) AAKG + CM + Beta alanine + creatine . Thanks.

jboyle92
06-05-2010, 10:58 AM
Hi guys , i didn't want to creat a new thread so I post my question here .Can you help me to decide which option should i choose : 1) Brand No product like superpump ,Xplode or other . + beta alanine + creatine or 2) AAKG + CM + Beta alanine + creatine . Thanks.

correct me if im wrong but i believe the caffeine in NO products will cancel out the effects of monohydrate creatine. so if you use NO use krealkalyn creatine.

FireFistAce
06-05-2010, 11:21 AM
correct me if im wrong but i believe the caffeine in NO products will cancel out the effects of monohydrate creatine. so if you use NO use krealkalyn creatine.

u'r right, caffeine is an antagonist of creatine, even if many supplements like no-xplode mixin both oO"

will4gzus
06-05-2010, 11:38 AM
I have tried many of the NO products but I have come up with my own and its the greatest pump I have ever had. I use 2 scoops of white flood with 4.5 grams of GPLC, the pump is just off the charts

CONTROLLED LABS
06-05-2010, 07:26 PM
Just took WF for the first time yesterday and had a great workout, did shoulders and legs, and it was awesome, I felt great. Going to start a Green Bulge cycle today also. I am going to cycle them together, 6 weeks on, and 2 weeks off. Does that sound like a good cycle for these 2 together?
sure thing, no need to cycle the green bulge thought. what flavor white flood did you get?

I have tried many of the NO products but I have come up with my own and its the greatest pump I have ever had. I use 2 scoops of white flood with 4.5 grams of GPLC, the pump is just off the charts

sounds like a great stack. what flavor of white flood did you get and does it cover up the gplc (taste isnt bad on gplc I know)

will4gzus
06-06-2010, 08:42 AM
sure thing, no need to cycle the green bulge thought. what flavor white flood did you get?


sounds like a great stack. what flavor of white flood did you get and does it cover up the gplc (taste isnt bad on gplc I know)


I use Electric Lemonade and mix it quite vigorously with the GPLC. It does cover up the GPLC taste completely.

BTW, I let a gym buddy try the flood, and he has been ordering his own ever since, best pre, pump, supplement out there. Thanks for a great product