Best Overall Nitric Oxide (NO) Product?

[skilz4u2nv]

No Black Powder fans out there huh???

[TylerB]

I am on my fourth or fifth jug of NO shotgun. I love it. By far my favorite so far and I have tried a few of the big brands out there (Xplode, Rag, Shock Ther. superpump) I like the extra 20g of protein in it also. I've had all the flavors and they all taste great to me. It fits in really nice with my stack so I will continue to go with VPX unless something else more promising comes along. I've had my eye on some JP8 and Jack3d tho.

[Warneckutz]

No Black Powder fans out there huh???

I tried about 15-20 servings, I don't recall getting much of a pump or anything. It's on the shelf though, I may give it another shot one day.

[NO HYPE]

http://www.thermolife.com/store/ProdImages/cbol.gif


C-BOL
Capsules
Supplement Facts
Serving Size 6 Capsules
Servings Per Container 50

Creatrate - U.S. Patent Pending Creatine Nitrate, Creatine Anhydrous,
Amount Per Serving -
Creatine HCL 3,000mg
Orotic Acid 500mg
N-Acetyl-Cysteine 600mg
Vitamin C 200mg
Magnesium Gluconate 200mg
Niacin (Niacinamide) 20mg
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCL) 2mg
Thiamine (Thiamin HCL) 1.5mg
Folic Acid 800mcg
Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin) 6mcg

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/thermo/cbol.html



Creatine Nitrate

Creatine nitrate is the ground breaking new creatine form developed, patended and marketed exclusively by Thermolife International. After many attempts to improve the creatine molecule's properties, Thermolife is proud to introduce the first form of creatine that actually has improved characteristics without introducing a second molecule. So what are the advantages of creatine nitrate compared to other creatine forms?

Although creatine is very well absorbed by the body, it's solubility was always it's absorption limit. Creatine nitrate is perfectly soluble in water without having any offensive taste.

Furthermore the nitrate moiety has by itself wonderful properties. Lots of people use today NO products to increase 'pumps', vasodilation, nutrient transportation to the muscle, aerobic performance and recovery. All these products up to date had arginine as their base, which recently proved to be totally ineffective for actually raising NO levels(1). In fact most of the 'pump' feeling comes from an insulin increase following Arginine supplementation (2). Nitrates have been used in the pharmaceutical industry for decades to induce direct and fast vasodilation. They do this by directly binding to the blood vessel NO receptor. This creates a powerful vasodilating effect which actually helps with nutrient absorption and distribution and increases athletic performance(3).

There is more beauty to the nitrate moiety however. Organic nitrates have also a great use in pharmacy as a permeation enhancer. That means that they increase intestinal absorption of not only the bonded molecule but ALL nutrients co ingested. They are even able to allow absorption of large macromolecules as insulin!

To sum up Creatine Nitrate's advantages over all other Creatine forms:
- Superior solubility with no offending taste
- Superior direct vasodilating effect
- Superior absorption of itself and all coingested nutrients


Creatine Orotate
Another popular and effective form of Creatine, Creatine Orotate is bonded with orotic acid. This exciting form of creatine is superior by being bonded with a molecule that has excellent ergogenic properties by itself. Orotic acid exerts it's ergogenic benefits through 3 different pathways:

- It plays a pivotal role in biosynthetic pathway of pyrimidine metabolism. Pyrimidine metabolism produces pyrimidine nucleotide bases for the the storage of genetic
information in the form of DNA and RNA. Pyrimidine biosynthesis begins with the condensation of aspartate and carbamoyl-phosphate in the cytoplasm to form N-carbamoyl-aspartate, which is then enzymatically converted to dihydroortic acid, which is further converted to orotic acid.
Orotic acid is then linked with a phosphoribosylpyrophosphate (PRPP) for the formation of orotidine monophosphate (OMP), which is enzymatically decarboxylated to uridine monophosphate (UMP) for the phosphorylation of uridine diphosphate (UDP) and uridine triphosphate (UTP). UTP is then is then animated to form the end product cytidine triphosphate (CTP). The
formation of pyrimidine nucleotides function as part of the building blocks for RNA and DNA in our cells yet another function of UMP, UDP, and
UTP is glycogen synthesis.

- Another mechanism of orotic acid's ergogenic effect is due to its role in the formation uridine phosphates. Uridine phosphates also play a significant role in the formation of glycogen or the storage form of carbohydrates. Carbohydrates are the predominate fuel source for aerobic and anaerobic exercise depending upon the fed state of the individual. Adequate glycogen stores are crucial for optimal physical performance. Orotic acid is
ultimately responsible for the formation of UDP-Glucose, which is an extremely high energy compound that donates glycosyl units to the glycogen chain and its the immediate precursor to glycogen synthesis. UTP also possesses ergogenic benefits due to its role in glycogen synthesis and its ability to donate phosphates for the formation of ATP and ADP. UTP hydrolysis is energetically equivalent to ATP hydrolysis.

- Finally orotic acid exerts it's ergogenic effects due to its vitamin like properties and growth promoting effects. Orotic acid was once referred to as vitamin B 13 due to it's role with vitamin B12 and folate metabolism. Orotic acid has been demonstrated to spare vitamin B12 And folate in animals and thus compensate for deficiency. Adequate B vitamin stores are essential for carbohydrate metabolism, protein synthesis and red blood cell formation. Thus it is proven to promote significant acceleration of growth and functional maturation of animals due to increased oxygen consumption, frequency of respiration and cardiac contractions at rest.(9)

MAGNESIUM GLUCONATE
Magnesium is an essential mineral for the body. It takes part in hundreds of enzymatic reactions in the body, among them muscle relaxation and muscle protein synthesis. It is beneficial to the athlete in numeral ways: It can prevent muscle cramping(10,11) while it's deficiency increases the risk for muscle injury and cramping (11). Meanwhile it?s ergogenic and performance enhancing attributes have been well established(12,13,14). C-Bol uses the most bioavailable form of Magnesium currently available, Magnesium Gluconate, which research has shown to be superior to 9 other popular magnesium forms(15)

ASCORBIC ACID
Well known as Vitamin C, it's numerous benefits are well known. It's part in C-BOL is two-fold:

First of all, Nitric Oxide Production from creatine nitrate produces free radicals in the bloodstream(16,17).

Secondly, prolonged use of nitrates may cause tolerance, thus minimizing their effects. The reason or nitrate tolerance is that NO production wastes body's glutathione levels. The suggested mechanism in brief is: RONO2+GSH->GS-NO2->H +NO2->NO

In that mechanism, Glutathione(GSH) binds to NO2 via the enzyme Glutathione-S-transferase and after the production of NO2 the GS leftover binds with another molecule of Glutathione to create GS-SG. In brief words, for one molecule on NO to be created in the body, two molecules of Glutathione must be spent. It is also speculated the oxidative stress that NO production causes, further enhances Glutathione depletion. (18,19,20,21,22). Of the various strategies used to overcome nitrate tolerance, Vitamin C supplementation has proven effective(23), much more than other popular antioxidants.

N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC)
NAC(N-acetylcysteine) has been a popular antioxidant and ergogenic agent used for many years in the supplement industry. It's ability to attenuate exercise induced oxidant stress, restore muscle and cell glutathione levels, enhance recovery and improve performance is well documented(24, 25, 26, 27). Of prime interest is the role of NAC in replenishing Glutathione levels. As already stated above, Glutathione levels need to be maintained in order for NO to have maximal effects and prevent nitrate tolerance, as well as for optimal body health. NAC has indeed shown to be able to ameliorate Nitrate tolerance and maintain NO efficiency in numerous studies(28, 29, 30) by maintaining NO bioactivation.



Every fiber sailing on a phosphocreatine resynthesizing wind and surfing on a vasodilatory swell as it contracts against resistance. Half a dozen permeation enhanced ingredients falling in to the attack, cutting through myocellular waters deeper and faster than anything before. Tearing fatigue limb from limb before metabolizing the wretched pieces and sprinting back to recollect your muscular force and fame. All repetitions ending tight, the heaviest of weights feeling light, every pump backed with anabolic might.

From ThermoLife, the industry source of the highest-end body-building nutracologicals, comes C-BOL?. A boldy experimental formula intended to support maximum contractile performance, pump on demand vasodilation and dual protein / glycogen anabolism, all acting in synergy to give you greater mass and performance no matter what the training challenge. Driven by half a dozen strategically placed, pharmacologically active nutrients (nutracologicals) including Creatine Nitrate (United States patent protected vasodianabolic agent), Orotic Acid (glycoanabolic) and N-Acetyl-Cysteine (membrane-permeable nitric oxide extender).



As in10city has previously notated, creatine HCL aquires greater bioavailability than previous creatine formulations.


Oral Bioavailability of Creatine Supplements: Is There Room for Improvement?

The 6th Annual ISSN Conference and Expo - June 2009
Donald W. Miller
Associate Professor
Department of Pharmacology and Therapeutics
University of Manitoba


So here is my interpretation....


In a balanced cross-over [10-subject] study design, creatine HCL has been shown to aquire a 47% increase in plasma AUC than that of creatine monohydrate.

Creatine HCL aquires a [SIGNIFICANTLY] greater aqueous solubility than does creatine monohydrate/pyruvate/and/or dicitrate. This significantly improves oral absorbtion and intestinal wall permeation as well as gastric empting intervals. This in turn means creatine HCL requires much less fluid to solubilize the dose, thereby eliciting less gastrointestinal distress with a reduced dose. This provides a more efficient method for enhancing creatine levels in the body. Overall, significantly improving solubility, results in significantly improved bioavailability.

[darkphase]

i've tried no xplode,no shotgun, and white flood and this is what i think

NO Xplode:4/10
i can't put it in any other way the product sucks didn't see results at all
there was a rush of energy but only lasted for a week and wasn't to good

White Flood:9/10
Great product can not argue with the noticable results still taking it right now and love
i leave the gym sometimes and go wtf im not tierd why'd i leave awesome product with great pumps and energy!!

N.o Shotgun 8/10
this product is great as well not as good as white flood but alot better than no xplode
good energy okay pumps

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i've tried no xplode,no shotgun, and white flood and this is what i think

NO Xplode:4/10
i can't put it in any other way the product sucks didn't see results at all
there was a rush of energy but only lasted for a week and wasn't to good

White Flood:9/10
Great product can not argue with the noticable results still taking it right now and love
i leave the gym sometimes and go wtf im not tierd why'd i leave awesome product with great pumps and energy!!

N.o Shotgun 8/10
this product is great as well not as good as white flood but alot better than no xplode
good energy okay pumps
wow, white flood really did well in your comparison and compared to two heavy hitters that are on the best sellers list, glad to hear it :)

[mikevall]

has anyone tried plasma jet? i know its pretty hard to compare to like super pump and no xplode cuz plasamjet isnt a stimulant but ive gotten some great pumps from it...

[Farlap]

tried it, pumps didnt get any better....


i wont use it again

alot of people have seen good resuts tho.

[Master.D.]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=375372961#post375372961

[MrMuscleMass]

Superpump 250 for the pump.

Jack3d for the strength I have.

[dumbella]

Anyone try MuscleSpeed? Works wonders.

[aliquis]

NO Xplode:4/10
i can't put it in any other way the product sucks didn't see results at all
there was a rush of energy but only lasted for a week and wasn't to goodIt sucks but you still give it 4/10?

I've never understood people who type judgements in numbers.

[youngblood2002]

I use Xpand (Dymatize nutrition) pre & post workout formula.Provides plenty of energy to complete workout and no crash. when taken after workout gives an additional energy surge that erases fatigue...

[torourke51]

n.o. xplode
good taste and good pump, nice vascularity, and energy

[neverlift702]

I gotta give a big THUMBS DOWN to Cytogenix Laboratories CYTONOX.

I got a 3 serving sample with my last bb.com order and decided to give it a try. Being very tolerable of stims in general I decided I'd use the max dose and empty the entire packet into the shaker. It smelled so sweet it burned my nose, tasted like ass though. Anyway, it did nothing, absolutely nothing. I wasn't energize or focused at all if anything I was kinda bored. I had no additional "pump" or "vascularity" basically I felt like I was working out without using a pre-workout. You guys need to go back to the drawing board or something.

[Woj30]

BSN NO-Xplode, VPX NO-Shotgun

No-shotgun is may favorite stuff. It gave me good pumps, but I gained alot of strength from taking while becoming more lean. Best NO product

[KDHunter]

Tried a few out there but always come back to Controlled Labs products. White Flood works excellent for me.

[IrishPilot]

White Flood is fantastic...but is due for some new flavor action!

[Bill Bright]

No Black Powder fans out there huh???

I use Black Powder. It works great for me.

[Surrender2Me88]

it cost $45 for about 2-4 week supply. This stuff is expensive because of all the quality ingredients not to mention it comes from Gaspari.

white flood and some green mag.. solid pump, solid strength, solid price.. cant go wrong. Great sh*t!

[cs110x]

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OrAnge JuiCe is the ultimate pre-workout weapon for the real iron warrior. A unique musclebuilding psychoactive experience, OrAnge JuiCe is scientifically formulated to immediately transform every single training session into an experience unlike anything before ??" the World?s Most Anabolic Event?. The powerful formula targets and ignites the body?s key physiological systems vital for explosive muscle growth and inhuman strength. From hormonal amplification to ferocious vaso-muscular pumps and ramped up neuro-signaling, the gains you will experience on OrAnge JuiCe are unlike any other.

Biomedically engineered for zero wait-time, the anabolic OrAnge JuiCe? storm unleashes a fury that will have you attacking the weights with unstoppable intensity. Armed with state of the art Citrus-Diffuse? technology, a precise portion of key compounds in the OrAnge JuiCe formula are drastically reduced to a size designed to rapidly increase the rate of absorption. With these microscopic particles easily entering your body, OrAnge JuiCe overwhelms every fiber of your being. You?ll observe in utter disbelief as you experience raw, untamed increases in size, mutating your physique to massive proportions right before your very eyes.

Amount per serving
Calories 112 Calories from Fat 4


Hide Daily Values % Daily Value*
Total Fat 0g 0%
Saturated Fat 0g 0%
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 2mg 0%
Total Carbohydrates 26g 9%
Sugars 21g
Protein 2g

OrAnge JuiCe? Proprietary Blend 23mg:
Vitamin A 10% Vitamin C 207%
Calcium 3% Iron 3%
Thiamin 15% Riboflavin 4%
Niacin 5% Pantothenic Acid 5%
Vitamin B6 5% Potassium 14%
Phosphorus 4% Magnesium 7%
Zinc 1% Copper 5%


Directions For MuscleTech OrAnge JuiCe: OrAnge JuiCe is extremely powerful, so do yourself a favor. Start off by mixing 3-4 oz of OrAnge JuiCe and downing it about 15 minutes before hitting the weights. Then, grab something heavy. As you develop respect for, and understand the power of OrAnge JuiCe, you can gradually increase the dosage to 4 to 5 oz (2 to 3 servings) before working out.

For maximum results, consume on an empty stomach. Do not exceed 5 oz (4servings) in a 24-hour period. Due to the extreme reactivity of the OrAnge JuiCe formula, made sure the container is stabilized for at least 10 to 15 seconds before opening the lid. Otherwise, nanoparticulated particles invisible to the naked eye may escape the confines of the container. Do not leave the container open for more than 30 seconds. Due to the unbridled power of OrAnge JuiCe, make absolutely certain that you have read the entire label before using OrAnge JuiCe. You must precisely follow the directions provided.

[darkphase]

white flood and some green mag.. solid pump, solid strength, solid price.. cant go wrong. Great sh*t!

i go for this
solid strength+energy+pumps long lasting and does not wear of best combo for my workout
along with purple wraath or intrain

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Tried a few out there but always come back to Controlled Labs products. White Flood works excellent for me.
many do. for an awesome product at one of the best prices on the market, its white flood :)

White Flood is fantastic...but is due for some new flavor action!
;)

white flood and some green mag.. solid pump, solid strength, solid price.. cant go wrong. Great sh*t!


i go for this
solid strength+energy+pumps long lasting and does not wear of best combo for my workout
along with purple wraath or intrain
glad to hear it guys :)

[nalder89]

I picked up my first tub of Jack3d about a week ago. Took 1 scoop (recommended serving is 1-3 scoops). The pump was pretty good but other than that it was just alright. So a few days later (same muscle group), I took two scoops. HOLY SH$T. stuff was amazing. Didn't know that one scoop could make THAT much of a difference. I lifted EVERYTHING and at the end of my workout, still felt like a rhino. This stuff rocks yer balls off. no jitters, pure focus, pumps, and strength. that and the scoops are freakin small compaired to other preworkout supps. I gave a scoop to 2 of my buddies, they both had the same reaction. so 3 out of 3 test subjects :) we all loved it. but DON'T get it from a store like I did. They rip you off. online is the way to go.

[supaman725]

by far best pre workout out NO product i have used

take six pre workout and get a crazy pump, the beta alanine in this really puts it over the top

[sflun1]

hi,

sorry to bother you all but i was wondering what the most appropriate routine would be to supplement green mag while taking white flood? if i take it before workout, do i take it before or after i take my white flood or can i mix it in with my white flood? if its better to take it after workout, should i take it before or after my protein shake?

thanks

[baseballbk]

N.O Xplode was pretty good. It definitely got me wired and focused and pumped up. The taste wasn't too bad as well

SuperPump 250 doesn't really jack me up or get me a buzz when I take it but all of my lifts went up within a week of starting it. The taste is horrible though.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

hi,

sorry to bother you all but i was wondering what the most appropriate routine would be to supplement green mag while taking white flood? if i take it before workout, do i take it before or after i take my white flood or can i mix it in with my white flood? if its better to take it after workout, should i take it before or after my protein shake?

thanks

wf/gm mixed and taken 30 minutes pre. gm on off days too

[AlphaBrass01]

wf/gm mixed and taken 30 minutes pre. gm on off days too
Or if you're like me, and would rather taste the sour apple by itself, just take them one right after the other!

[nalder89]

many do. for an awesome product at one of the best prices on the market, its white flood :)

;)



glad to hear it guys :)


k maybe this is just me.. but there's nothing more annoying than a rep for a supp company boasting how good there product is on a forum for users of said supplements, not reps, to post what their favorite supplements are. Go promote your company somewhere else. you guys are the ONLY company to post on this forum. and it' REALLY getting annoying.

[Geovnni]

I use Black Powder. It works great for me.

I've tried it and it worked good but I really want to try White Flood. I wanna get those good pumps in.

[VaughnTrue]

HemaVol is beyond N02. The first true plasma-volumizer.


look for it to be released at this years Mr. Olympia

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Or if you're like me, and would rather taste the sour apple by itself, just take them one right after the other!
that is always an option too.

I've tried it and it worked good but I really want to try White Flood. I wanna get those good pumps in.

what is holding you back from the flood?

[powerhouse23]

i take 5 scoops of no xplode a day, this healthy?

[AlphaBrass01]

i take 5 scoops of no xplode a day, this healthy?
I don't know if it's healthy or not, but IMO, if you're having to take 5 scoops, you may want to see if something else is more effective for you.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i take 5 scoops of no xplode a day, this healthy?

dont take more than the recommended amount. i think its time you cycled off of stims/caffeine for 1-2 weeks if you need that much

[darkphase]

i take 5 scoops of no xplode a day, this healthy?

if your taking 5 scoops it;s obviously not working for you you have to switch off
and no it's not healthy like above post do not exceed the recommended amount

[shaneo25]

can you take nitric oxicide as well as creatine ? or should it be one or the other ?

[AlphaBrass01]

can you take nitric oxicide as well as creatine ? or should it be one or the other ?
They accomplish different things, so taking both is fine. Many NO products actually have a creatine component (though not all).

[DCabler]

Tried Superpump 250 and puked my guts out after the first work out. I took only 1 scoop as recommended assimilate. Tried half a scoop 2 times after, same result puking and this time the washroom. Hesitant to try another N.O product as my experience was quite awful. Never felt like that in my whole life and would never purchase Superpump!

[shaneo25]

thanks mate just new to the game

[nalder89]

i take 5 scoops of no xplode a day, this healthy?

dude if you're takin 5 scoops of NO xplode a day i'm suprised your hear is still beating. Cycle off any stims for 30 days, not this 1-2 week stuff most people tell you. you've become WAY too immune to caffeine. 5 scoops is about 500 MG of caffeine!! that is REALLY bad for you. Both my dad and brother are RN's (Registered Nurse), and both agree with me. The only time you should take that much caffeine is if you're in iraq and there is a swarm of fighters surrounding you, and you need to turn into NEO from the matrix. (yes i know that's not what it does, but you get the idea).

Anyway, Cycle off for like a month, and go get some Jack3d. 1-2 scoops should be PLENTY of caffeine. or try Black Powder. Most people find the caffeine in NO-Xplode stops working after a couple of weeks. I JUST got jack3d like a week ago after trying about 4-5 different pre workouts. You don't get the jitters, and you don't crash from it. pretty cheap on the wallet too. anyway, hope all goes well man, don't kill urself with caffeine overdose haha.

[Renegade_37]

Plasma Jet is by far the best NO product I've taken yet. I've tried alot like NO-Xplod and naNOx9 hardcore and even a couple others that aren't even worth listing. But above all Plasma Jet is intense I've been taking it for a while now and I still feel every pump. Its good cuz you only have to take it every other day and it works. If you haven't tried it yet, try it. Its pretty expensive in stores but if you search around online you can find it pretty cheap.

[TLF-WOLFwx]

i take 5 scoops of no xplode a day, this healthy?

I shouldn't laugh considering the severity of the effects this could have on certain individuals, but the recommended dosage is listed so I suppose it's on the consumer. So five scoops? I had a friend in Iraq while I was deployed and one night he had this brilliant idea (inserts sarcasm here) on taking 4 heaping scoops of N.O. Explode. Not even 15 minutes into his work out he was rushed to the clinic to get his stomach pumped. The look on the doctors face was priceless when he was trying to figure out why his heart was nearly fluttering like a humming-bird. Luckily two days later he was fine. You can bet your a$$ he never did it again though. lol

Perhaps calm down on the intake and try something else that works for you but in less volume like other people suggest.

5 scoops...damn...i've been taking the product for years and two scoops still work fantastic for me. If i tried 5, I'd probably have a seizure.

[DjClassicWalt]

Ive tried N.O. Xplode,Vapor,& Superpump 250 & i have had the best gains with Superpump.

[WilliamMuscle]

Very good supplements, but I wanna know which is better

[Jerevin]

I would rep NO Shotgun I liked it so much.

NO Shotgun = Solid Prework out. Includes lots of imporant pre workout goodies.
Super Pump 250 = Great focus and great pump. Taste is great.
NO Xplode = Did nothing. What so ever.
NO Vapor = Cold chills, great pump but it make me feel like death.

My recomendation would be NO Shotgun and NO Synthesize. Works great.

[WilliamMuscle]

I would rep NO Shotgun I liked it so much.

NO Shotgun = Solid Prework out. Includes lots of imporant pre workout goodies.
Super Pump 250 = Great focus and great pump. Taste is great.
NO Xplode = Did nothing. What so ever.
NO Vapor = Cold chills, great pump but it make me feel like death.

My recomendation would be NO Shotgun and NO Synthesize. Works great.

Thanks man, I will buy NO Shotgun

[spladle29]

I would rep NO Shotgun I liked it so much.

NO Shotgun = Solid Prework out. Includes lots of imporant pre workout goodies.
Super Pump 250 = Great focus and great pump. Taste is great.
NO Xplode = Did nothing. What so ever.
NO Vapor = Cold chills, great pump but it make me feel like death.

My recomendation would be NO Shotgun and NO Synthesize. Works great.

ok ive never taken NO shotgun but everything else you said i totally agreed on. SuperPump is my favorite, just because im incredibly focused on it, then i tried nano vapor and i liked it too, but i also got cold chills. i kept like twitching/shivering when i took it, i had a great workout but never tried it again because it was kind of scary lol. and NO xplode did nothing except give me a stomach ache

so id recommend sp250

[Mulewhipper]

I've been using NO-Xplode for a few weeks now, I have no complaints. I am pretty new to this Supplement thing though and I haven't even tried any other NO product. I hit the Gym early mornings...like 5:00 AM, so a couple scoops of this stuff before I leave the house gets me going. I seem to be able to add more reps and weight after using the product. However, I wonder how much of that is just from hitting the weights and getting stronger.

[Surftex363]

Ive tried SP 250, NO shotgun, White Flood, NO xplode.

NO shotgun is by far the best. Only thing is, I almost throw up when i take it. The black cherry is the worst flavor on the face of the earth. I wasnt paying attention when i bought it. I get pumps like crazy and good long energy. No crash at all.

[darkphase]

Ive tried SP 250, NO shotgun, White Flood, NO xplode.

NO shotgun is by far the best. Only thing is, I almost throw up when i take it. The black cherry is the worst flavor on the face of the earth. I wasnt paying attention when i bought it. I get pumps like crazy and good long energy. No crash at all.

same feeling i had i almost vomit every time i drank this
although WF did better for me

[BOOSTEDDUDE]

I seem to be able to add more reps and weight after using the product. However, I wonder how much of that is just from hitting the weights and getting stronger.

Well that's the main idea behind these products is to kick you in the pants and give you the energy to lift more iron and thus gain more muscle. That and open up your veins to deliver more nutrients to your blood stream.

I've tried tons of Pre-workout NO supplements and have a few favorites. My favorite is probably sp250 since I really like the taste a lot and the pumps are great! I also still like No Xplode and a few other in my sig. I also agree that nano vapor is not good. I went through 2 tubs of it about a year ago and it seemed to work but made me feel all queezy. I want to try USP laps jack3d next since I really liked their USP Labs recreate and had good result.

And to the person that asked between Super Charged Vs Nano Vap.. i think you can tell. Also, plasmajet is supposed to be stacked with a pre-workout NO. I'm trying it now. Just tried my first 10pills(e-gad) the other day with SP-250. So far so good. Time to hit it tomorrow.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

same feeling i had i almost vomit every time i drank this
although WF did better for me

glad to hear it. most who have tried white flood would say for effects, taste and value, white flood is hard to beat :)

[r.m.]

i just bought my 3rd tub of white flood today. each tub lasted about 2 months for me. the value is great and the energy and pumps i get are still amazing.

i've used no explode, nox-cg3, nanovapor, trac and noshotgun. they were all great in the beginning, some more than others, but white flood seems to work best for me. the value is definitely there.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i just bought my 3rd tub of white flood today. each tub lasted about 2 months for me. the value is great and the energy and pumps i get are still amazing.

i've used no explode, nox-cg3, nanovapor, trac and noshotgun. they were all great in the beginning, some more than others, but white flood seems to work best for me. the value is definitely there.

awesome, many who switch to white flood stick with it due to its strong results and value. did you hear about the new flavor (white raspberry)? it should be hitting bb.com today or monday at the latest.

[2smalll]

here my expirience with these
i started taking supplements about 6months ago and now i have tried a couple different ones,
white flood (was recomended by the counter guy at local store) awesome great pumps and felt like a million dollars everytime i got done working out

supercharged-good tast and pretty good pumps and focus

vassive n.o. this **** sucks balls tastes like **** and mixed like **** too. it made me feel kinda nausious and did not give me any energy or anything

superpump250 (hear it was the best) it was ok i was still looking for another product to give me what white flood gave me. i had grape which did not taste horrible. but it gave me the ****s pretty bad

and now im on no explode its pretty good very close to what white flood did for me but it tastes like **** and makes me **** ten minutes after taking it.

so far i have to say that white flood was the best it made me feel great and i leaned up alot taking it

i know its not worth anything but thats my two cents

[Shaster77]

NO Xplode - Great energy, fruit punch taste awesome imo. Pump was ok, nothing phenomenal, tried grape and made me s**t every time right before my workout, after 4 days of use 3 scoops only lasted me about 30 min into my workout and i started to feel the drop. cost too much
Overall B+

Superpump250 - Good energy, fruit punch taste a tad bland imo (i like the slight tignle noxplode provides). virtually the same product as NOXplode imo, pump was about the same as above. energy sustained a tad longer than NOXplode. cost better than noxplode but still alot.
Overall B

Nanovapor - Great energy, horrible taste imo, mixed well, lasted about the same as superpump250, pump was pretty decent, after burps were grose, caused post workout ****s for me. cost is just not worth it.
Overall C

White Flood - Incredible Energy, taste good, mixes easy, energy sustainment? lets just say dont take it after 4pm if you want to go to bed that night(lol). Pump was like nothing I've ever felt or seen, Cost is good for what you get.
Overall A

[r.m.]

awesome, many who switch to white flood stick with it due to its strong results and value. did you hear about the new flavor (white raspberry)? it should be hitting bb.com today or monday at the latest.

i knew the new flavor was coming out soon, but i couldn't wait. besides, electric lemonade tastes fine to me.

[TLF-WOLFwx]

I'm going to have to try this White Flood, especially the new flavor. I thought I tried just about every N.O product out there but after looking at the product label WF is the only one I haven't tried. I stack with BSN (5 Products) and the N.O Xplode works great but my energy level and pump just isn't what it used to be.

I've head more pros than cons about it so I'll give it a shot.

[mikejfrd]

I loved the results I saw from W/F but I would always get a horrible after taste in my mouth that would last for hours!!! Has anyone else experienced this??

[JoeyV123]

If you haven't then you gotta try Jack3d!! Great product..good taste, cheap, and gives you great energy levels!

[freakmonster]

Plasma Jet is by far the best NO product I've taken yet. I've tried alot like NO-Xplod and naNOx9 hardcore and even a couple others that aren't even worth listing. But above all Plasma Jet is intense I've been taking it for a while now and I still feel every pump. Its good cuz you only have to take it every other day and it works. If you haven't tried it yet, try it. Its pretty expensive in stores but if you search around online you can find it pretty cheap.

I've only tried 2 no supps plas & no2 black
no2 black was my 1st I started getting huge and freaky switched to plas because it wAs my 1st on my wish list the pump was insane I really think they should put a caution of addiction on it's label
I do alternate between plas & no2 black though because I like their results irrespectively
however, pumpwise, plasmajet is my current master of pumps, for me the only thing better is xxxrated;)

[thesquareone]

have been enjoying bsn's range for quite some time, i dont record my training data and should but i notice that when i take two scoops and switch on my ipod drive to the gym i can feel a surge of energy come over me...about 10 mins in to my workout it seems to kick in again for me.. i would be open to try other things because i dearly hope there is a better product out there for me than this..

cellmass seemed to work really well, doing what it said, post recovery, i always felt fresh as a daisy the following day but i havent taken this for quite some time.

not sure about the Nitrix product i have taken it but was unsure what it was meant to do for you, by taking the nitrix and no xplode i guess one of them might not have been necessary.

but again if anyone has tried no xplode and another and has comparative, i'd love to hear from them if they have a new suggestion.

[stophating]

I have taken just about every NO out there and Jack3d is hands down the best so far. The reason you all get the ****s from the other NO is that it has Magnesium in it. N.O.-xplode for example has 360mg. Magnesium is used for people who are constipated(yes i got this info from the insert that comes with Jack3d). I can do a heavy workout and still have energy to go on a nice long run(and no its not cause i lift like a pussy). Please dont take my word for it you need to try it for yourself. Plus it is pretty cheap.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

here my expirience with these
i started taking supplements about 6months ago and now i have tried a couple different ones,
white flood (was recomended by the counter guy at local store) awesome great pumps and felt like a million dollars everytime i got done working out

supercharged-good tast and pretty good pumps and focus

vassive n.o. this **** sucks balls tastes like **** and mixed like **** too. it made me feel kinda nausious and did not give me any energy or anything

superpump250 (hear it was the best) it was ok i was still looking for another product to give me what white flood gave me. i had grape which did not taste horrible. but it gave me the ****s pretty bad

and now im on no explode its pretty good very close to what white flood did for me but it tastes like **** and makes me **** ten minutes after taking it.

so far i have to say that white flood was the best it made me feel great and i leaned up alot taking it

i know its not worth anything but thats my two cents
awesome to hear. what store was this?

NO Xplode - Great energy, fruit punch taste awesome imo. Pump was ok, nothing phenomenal, tried grape and made me s**t every time right before my workout, after 4 days of use 3 scoops only lasted me about 30 min into my workout and i started to feel the drop. cost too much
Overall B+

Superpump250 - Good energy, fruit punch taste a tad bland imo (i like the slight tignle noxplode provides). virtually the same product as NOXplode imo, pump was about the same as above. energy sustained a tad longer than NOXplode. cost better than noxplode but still alot.
Overall B

Nanovapor - Great energy, horrible taste imo, mixed well, lasted about the same as superpump250, pump was pretty decent, after burps were grose, caused post workout ****s for me. cost is just not worth it.
Overall C

White Flood - Incredible Energy, taste good, mixes easy, energy sustainment? lets just say dont take it after 4pm if you want to go to bed that night(lol). Pump was like nothing I've ever felt or seen, Cost is good for what you get.
Overall A
WOW, glad white flood got the coveted "A" grade, thanks for your support :)

i knew the new flavor was coming out soon, but i couldn't wait. besides, electric lemonade tastes fine to me.
its out as of friday and is shipping as of today from bb.com ;)

I'm going to have to try this White Flood, especially the new flavor. I thought I tried just about every N.O product out there but after looking at the product label WF is the only one I haven't tried. I stack with BSN (5 Products) and the N.O Xplode works great but my energy level and pump just isn't what it used to be.

I've head more pros than cons about it so I'll give it a shot.
you will love it, def give it a try, not only is it highly effective, but nearly half the cost (per serving) of many of the competitive products out there :)

[TheBigRigatoni]

awesome to hear. what store was this?

WOW, glad white flood got the coveted "A" grade, thanks for your support :)

its out as of friday and is shipping as of today from bb.com ;)

you will love it, def give it a try, not only is it highly effective, but nearly half the cost (per serving) of many of the competitive products out there :)

WHAT...new flav wf? something better

[Jerevin]

Top Tier
NO Shotgun V1 - HANDS DOWN
NO Shotgun V3 + NO Synthesize Stacked

Cycle Out Top Tier
Super Pump 250 - Win-Tastic, if this had more Preworkout goodies it would be #1
White Flood

Just plain did not work for me
NO XPLODE - Did absolutely nothing accept taste horrible (Shotgun V1 was worse though)
NaNO Vapor - Never again. Worste thing I ever tried.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

WHAT...new flav wf? something better

yup. WHITE RASPBERRY, bb.com now has it and it is delicious :)

[Jeph77]

picked up some SP250 last friday, so far so good. iv tried WF before and it was amazing but the taste made me wana vomit towards the end of my cup. the SP definitely tastes better and the pumps and energy are really good, but i still think wf made me wana destroy the gym the most. gotta try the new flavor hopefully it will be better.

[LiBodyB]

Has anyone tired vasocharge by scivation? i am looking nito buying it but i want ot know what people think about it first

[CONTROLLED LABS]

picked up some SP250 last friday, so far so good. iv tried WF before and it was amazing but the taste made me wana vomit towards the end of my cup. the SP definitely tastes better and the pumps and energy are really good, but i still think wf made me wana destroy the gym the most. gotta try the new flavor hopefully it will be better.

sounds like you had the original white flood lemonade, it has been updated over a year ago and tastes great.

the new white raspberry tastes amazing :)

[darkphase]

for those of you who have taken both jack3d and and white flood
i wanted to know which on of these made your veins show more
i use to take white flood everything was good about but i wanted to know
if jack3d gives you more vascularity

[Ephrem]

SP250 is my favourite - I've tried N.O. Shotgun and Muscle Prime. N.O. Shotgun was just a huge caffeine rush IMO and Muscle Prime was just a bad tasting glass of water. SP250 gives me the best pumps (arms especially) and i am exhausted after every workout. My vascularity personally has improved, as far as strength gains, I don't know if I am gaining any quicker with SP250 then if I was not on it.

Good Pumps
Bad Taste
Great Workouts

[TheNeenz]

If you haven't then you gotta try Jack3d!! Great product..good taste, cheap, and gives you great energy levels!

Deff agree. Jacked by USPlabs is by far the most cost effective and beneficial NO product on the market, imo. I have also used black powder and super pump250. In order of effectiveness I would have to rate them, Jack3d, black powder, super pump

[TheBigRigatoni]

Has anyone tired vasocharge by scivation? i am looking nito buying it but i want ot know what people think about it first

very good solid product...

[AFdave]

Deff agree. Jacked by USPlabs is by far the most cost effective and beneficial NO product on the market, imo. I have also used black powder and super pump250. In order of effectiveness I would have to rate them, Jack3d, black powder, super pump


I agree. I could not get over the superpump taste either.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

for those of you who have taken both jack3d and and white flood
i wanted to know which on of these made your veins show more
i use to take white flood everything was good about but i wanted to know
if jack3d gives you more vascularity

vascularity is about genetics and bf%, not about product. FYI, white flood is half the price per "workout" (servings/workout as mentioned as mentioned on each products label) ;)

[billy2009]

hemo rage:)

[Deviant Dingo]

vascularity is about genetics and bf%, not about product. FYI, white flood is half the price per "workout" (servings/workout as mentioned as mentioned on each products label) ;)

How so?

Jack3d - $24.99
Serving Size1Scoop(5.00grams)
Servings Per Container:45

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value*

Y-RD? 153.33mg
Synergistic Methylxanthine Matrix? (Caffeine,Theophylline From Guarana), 1,3-Dimethylamylamine, Dibenzo(A,c) Cycloocten-6-Ol, 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydro-1,2,3,10,11,12-Hexamethoxy- 6,7-Dimethyl-,Stereoisomer (Schizandrol A)

ATP-Carnosine-Vaso Complex? 3500.00mg
Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (AAKG), Creatine Monohydrate, Beta Alanine


Whiteflood 39.99
Serving Size~2Scoops(12.55grams)(11cc Per Scoop)
Servings Per Container50

Amount Per Serving % DV*

Calories 0
Calories From Fat 0
Calcium(as Calcium Silicate) 225mg 23%
Potassium(as Gluconate) 36mg 1%
Folate(as Folic Acid) 250mcg 63%
Selenium(as Selenium Amino Acid Chelate) 100mcg 143%

ENO Flood Complex? 3,000mg ?
Arginine AKG (2200 Mg), Ornithine AKG (800mg)

FlooDurance Complex? 2,400mg ?
Beta Alanine (1700 Mg), L-Tyrosine (700 Mg)

Energy & Antioxidant Flood Complex 3,825mg ?
Inosine, Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid (GABA), Glucuronolactone, Natural Caffeine, Potassium Gluconate, Cocoa Bean (Extracted For 99% Theobromine), Evodia Rutaecarpa (95% Evodiamine Extract), L-Norvaline, Sugar Cane (Extracted For 60% Octacosanol), Coenzyme Q10, Vinpocetine, Alpha-Carotene, Zeaxanthin, Crytoxanthin, Lutein, Folic Acid, Selenium, Huperzia Seratta (Extracted For 99% Huperzine A)



Whiteflood has over double the ingredients and doesnt contain creatine mono as does the Jack3d which makes me wonder.... if Jack3d's vasocomplex is 3500mg, how much of that is the very cheap creatine mono. Its very easy to buy some good cheap mono like creapure stuff from prolab.

White flood is almost twice as expensive but per serve has over double the ingredients and a better profile IMO. Jack3d hooks so many people simply because it contains geranium oil, which is a very potent and warming stimulant. Otherwise it looks very average.

[Hurricanes2193]

i would have to go with Superpump 250 for sure. I get some freak pumps from it

[fightclub2012]

vascularity is about genetics and bf%, not about product. FYI, white flood is half the price per "workout" (servings/workout as mentioned as mentioned on each products label) ;)

Agreed

[darkphase]

but jack3d isn't 45 servings it's 15 read it more closely says to take 3 scoops

[fightclub2012]

but jack3d isn't 45 servings it's 15 read it more closely says to take 3 scoops

I'd stick with White Flood, Jack3d is caffeinated beyond comprehension.

[darkphase]

I'd stick with White Flood, Jack3d is caffeinated beyond comprehension.

talking about it and reading more i am sticking to white flood
i literaly can;t find anything better

[bedcommando]

i've used...

superpump, i liked it, good pump, kept the focus, never really felt a crash after and the jitters were a minimum

black powder, same as above, maybe a bit more jittery and I lost weight on it, but overall positive

no-xplode, its like drinking a cup of coffee that loses its punch after 4 days

no shotgun, not as much pump as the others

i'd go with sp250 or black powder personally

[AlphaBrass01]

How so?

Jack3d - $24.99
Serving Size1Scoop(5.00grams)
Servings Per Container:45

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value*

Y-RD? 153.33mg
Synergistic Methylxanthine Matrix? (Caffeine,Theophylline From Guarana), 1,3-Dimethylamylamine, Dibenzo(A,c) Cycloocten-6-Ol, 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydro-1,2,3,10,11,12-Hexamethoxy- 6,7-Dimethyl-,Stereoisomer (Schizandrol A)

ATP-Carnosine-Vaso Complex? 3500.00mg
Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (AAKG), Creatine Monohydrate, Beta Alanine


Whiteflood 39.99
Serving Size~2Scoops(12.55grams)(11cc Per Scoop)
Servings Per Container50

Amount Per Serving % DV*

Calories 0
Calories From Fat 0
Calcium(as Calcium Silicate) 225mg 23%
Potassium(as Gluconate) 36mg 1%
Folate(as Folic Acid) 250mcg 63%
Selenium(as Selenium Amino Acid Chelate) 100mcg 143%

ENO Flood Complex? 3,000mg ?
Arginine AKG (2200 Mg), Ornithine AKG (800mg)

FlooDurance Complex? 2,400mg ?
Beta Alanine (1700 Mg), L-Tyrosine (700 Mg)

Energy & Antioxidant Flood Complex 3,825mg ?
Inosine, Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid (GABA), Glucuronolactone, Natural Caffeine, Potassium Gluconate, Cocoa Bean (Extracted For 99% Theobromine), Evodia Rutaecarpa (95% Evodiamine Extract), L-Norvaline, Sugar Cane (Extracted For 60% Octacosanol), Coenzyme Q10, Vinpocetine, Alpha-Carotene, Zeaxanthin, Crytoxanthin, Lutein, Folic Acid, Selenium, Huperzia Seratta (Extracted For 99% Huperzine A)



Whiteflood has over double the ingredients and doesnt contain creatine mono as does the Jack3d which makes me wonder.... if Jack3d's vasocomplex is 3500mg, how much of that is the very cheap creatine mono. Its very easy to buy some good cheap mono like creapure stuff from prolab.

White flood is almost twice as expensive but per serve has over double the ingredients and a better profile IMO. Jack3d hooks so many people simply because it contains geranium oil, which is a very potent and warming stimulant. Otherwise it looks very average.
The thing that some people don't realize just looking at the labels is that the serving size for WF is the same as the recommended daily dose, so 1 workout is 1 serving. For Jack3d, the recommended dose is more than one scoop, so 1 workout is 2-3 servings. So...if you follow the dosing, a WF tub lasts longer. Misquoting the math always gets to me. It seems like both are great options, though.

[Dunno_lol]

does white flood taste better than jack3d??

[fightclub2012]

talking about it and reading more i am sticking to white flood
i literaly can;t find anything better

Your right, and results speak for them selves.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

How so?




but jack3d isn't 45 servings it's 15 read it more closely says to take 3 scoops
exactly. white flood is 80 cents per workout. at the suggested 3 scoops that other is $1.60 per workout, those are the facts based off of both labels.


Agreed

:)

[nalder89]

The thing that some people don't realize just looking at the labels is that the serving size for WF is the same as the recommended daily dose, so 1 workout is 1 serving. For Jack3d, the recommended dose is more than one scoop, so 1 workout is 2-3 servings. So...if you follow the dosing, a WF tub lasts longer. Misquoting the math always gets to me. It seems like both are great options, though.

alright.. you confuse me. in your post, you quoted the nutritional facts for jack3d, yet IN THAT QUOTE the serving for jack3d was 1 scoop.. and btw, unless you take another scoop of white flood at night, that beta alanine really isn't going to do much except for give you a tingling effect. A normal daily dose of beta alanine is 4-6 grams per day, spread out over 2-3 times.

it would even help if they had creatine in it, because it's been studied that creating and beta alanine put together create a synergistic effect (creatine ups your strength in the 1-7 rep range, whereas beta alanine ups your strength in the 7-15 rep range), but in order to gain those benefits, you have to be on a beta alanine supplement (4-6 grams per day) for at LEAST 1-2 months, preferably 3. Don't get me wrong i'm not bashing white flood, i use this same arguement, or others, against all preworkout supplements. In my opinion cryoshock does a better job throwing everything in, but even with that you have to load up the scoops to get full servings. All in all, preworkouts that put beta alanine in them don't do anything unless they recommend a second or even third dose of beta alanine. it's a waste of money to just throw some in, to make it look like a "full profile"

btw, there's also no citrulline malate in white flood, which IMO is a must for any preworkout
there's also no 1,3-Dimethylamylamine, which is an AWESOME ingredient for increasing focus and energy among other things.

all in all, i'm making my own preworkout, with FULL servings of the most critical ingredients. nothing crazy, just the essentials

[AlphaBrass01]

alright.. you confuse me. in your post, you quoted the nutritional facts for jack3d, yet IN THAT QUOTE the serving for jack3d was 1 scoop.. and btw, unless you take another scoop of white flood at night, that beta alanine really isn't going to do much except for give you a tingling effect. A normal daily dose of beta alanine is 4-6 grams per day, spread out over 2-3 times.

it would even help if they had creatine in it, because it's been studied that creating and beta alanine put together create a synergistic effect (creatine ups your strength in the 1-7 rep range, whereas beta alanine ups your strength in the 7-15 rep range), but in order to gain those benefits, you have to be on a beta alanine supplement (4-6 grams per day) for at LEAST 1-2 months, preferably 3. Don't get me wrong i'm not bashing white flood, i use this same arguement, or others, against all preworkout supplements. In my opinion cryoshock does a better job throwing everything in, but even with that you have to load up the scoops to get full servings. All in all, preworkouts that put beta alanine in them don't do anything unless they recommend a second or even third dose of beta alanine. it's a waste of money to just throw some in, to make it look like a "full profile"

btw, there's also no citrulline malate in white flood, which IMO is a must for any preworkout
there's also no 1,3-Dimethylamylamine, which is an AWESOME ingredient for increasing focus and energy among other things.

all in all, i'm making my own preworkout, with FULL servings of the most critical ingredients. nothing crazy, just the essentials
I was just stating that the "serving size" listed on the nutrition label is 1/3 of the recommended dose listed in the directions. That's all.

[nalder89]

I was just stating that the "serving size" listed on the nutrition label is 1/3 of the recommended dose listed in the directions. That's all.

o.. directions say 1-3, not stricly 3. and they say that because some people don't cycle off stims, or are stim resistant. not tryin to argue btw :)

[AlphaBrass01]

No, I get it. I'm actually pretty tolerant to stims, so I understand completely.

[Donnie_Darko]

Im considering purchasing White Flood but im afraid if i ever stop using it il have no energy in the gym?

Basically my question is for people who have used a Pre workout and then stopped did you find yourself useless without it after becoming accustomed to the extra boost?

[nalder89]

Im considering purchasing White Flood but im afraid if i ever stop using it il have no energy in the gym?

Basically my question is for people who have used a Pre workout and then stopped did you find yourself useless without it after becoming accustomed to the extra boost?

not useless, but it's a drag and sucks workin out without them. partly because I have sleep apnea, so I am really tired anyway. But hey, it's awesome while you're on 'em! haha

[Lucky_ROA]

PlasmaJet+NOW L-Citrulline......I had the BEST workout of my entire life

[Paulie1986]

N.O Xplode for me...my strength has been great since i've gone back to the gym. I took 3 scoops first time I went to the gym and I didn't feel anything, but the next day I took 2 scoops and I was so charged and ready. My t-shirt was soaked in sweat, because I was working like a machine. I had to drag myself out of the gym after my workout. Pumps are same as normal though.

[Donnie_Darko]

not useless, but it's a drag and sucks workin out without them. partly because I have sleep apnea, so I am really tired anyway. But hey, it's awesome while you're on 'em! haha

So should i hold of using one until i start to lack energy in the gym?Because as of of now i dont actually need anything i just thought it would be a good addition.

[thesouthernson]

the best NO out there is hands down: SuperPump 250. This stuff is like a miracle. Strength and size sky rocket after every use and workout. I compared it to all other NO out there as well. I read alot about all of them and none seem capable of SuperPump 250 results.

I'll go ahead and second that. The other real good one in my opinion is Animal Pump. My friends sware by Jack3d, but I have never tried it yet.

[nalder89]

I'll go ahead and second that. The other real good one in my opinion is Animal Pump. My friends sware by Jack3d, but I have never tried it yet.

cryoshock is better. but you should take 2 scoops of it, so you'll only get 18 servings for $40.00.

[Deviant Dingo]

I was just stating that the "serving size" listed on the nutrition label is 1/3 of the recommended dose listed in the directions. That's all.

Wow, i didnt see that. That's almost deceitful lol. Well in that case ill be using white flood next, maybe switch between that and blackpowder. I really love black powder!

[fightclub2012]

Im considering purchasing White Flood but im afraid if i ever stop using it il have no energy in the gym?

Basically my question is for people who have used a Pre workout and then stopped did you find yourself useless without it after becoming accustomed to the extra boost?

you might lose some focus and maybe your drive, but you wont be useless, keep in mind what a good healthy diet could do for you, get your carbs, protein, and drink lots and lots of water (at least a gallon a day) my 2 cents. White Flood all the way!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Im considering purchasing White Flood but im afraid if i ever stop using it il have no energy in the gym?

Basically my question is for people who have used a Pre workout and then stopped did you find yourself useless without it after becoming accustomed to the extra boost?
obviously you will have more energy with white flood, but if you were to decide to discontinue it, your energy wouldnt be any lower than it is now without the product

Wow, i didnt see that. That's almost deceitful lol. Well in that case ill be using white flood next, maybe switch between that and blackpowder. I really love black powder!
cool, let us know how you like white flood. the new white raspberry flavor is amazing :)

you might lose some focus and maybe your drive, but you wont be useless, keep in mind what a good healthy diet could do for you, get your carbs, protein, and drink lots and lots of water (at least a gallon a day) my 2 cents. White Flood all the way!
glad you are enjoying white flood :)

[2smalll]

when im done with this tub of no xplode im going with w.f. again i wanna try the new flavor even the lemonade wast bad though i have to mix this no xplode fruit punch with juice and pretty much take it like a shot just to drink it.

[thesouthernson]

cryoshock is better. but you should take 2 scoops of it, so you'll only get 18 servings for $40.00.

Just ordered some on whey2buy.com. It was on sale for 12 bucks.

[TheBigRigatoni]

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk33/thebigrigatoni/Overdose-rendering.jpg

[TylerB]

I'm on my third tub of VPX NO Shotgun and I really like but I'm thinking about switching it up a little. I like the 20g of protein along with it and I haven't seen any other NO products with protein in them. One of the reasons I just kept taking Shotgun....

Shutgun vs. White Flood vs. Superpump?

I've had superdump before and I did crap my brains out for the first few days but I grew tolerant to it. Never tried white flood...

[CONTROLLED LABS]

when im done with this tub of no xplode im going with w.f. again i wanna try the new flavor even the lemonade wast bad though i have to mix this no xplode fruit punch with juice and pretty much take it like a shot just to drink it.


I'm on my third tub of VPX NO Shotgun and I really like but I'm thinking about switching it up a little. I like the 20g of protein along with it and I haven't seen any other NO products with protein in them. One of the reasons I just kept taking Shotgun....

Shutgun vs. White Flood vs. Superpump?

I've had superdump before and I did crap my brains out for the first few days but I grew tolerant to it. Never tried white flood...

you guys should def both try white flood, you will love it. the new white raspberry flavor kicks major *ss ;)

[trumass]

Anybody know if MuscleTech? naNOx9 is any good? I just a bottle of it and was wondering if its safe. I have used MRI NO2 Black before with some results and it gave me decent pump.

Thanks.

[naturalguy]

I have always enjoyed Animal Pump the most

Animal Pump is the best of the best. No other product gives you the option of taking the stims or leaving them out plus you get a full dose of creatine so you don't have to buy a separate product, saves you money. Animal Pump is not all jacked up with stims like most other products you get real strength gains with it.



The Animal Pump serving size is per pack, and the TSN is per 4 pills (to be taken daily). I'm really looking for a suggestion on whether these could be safely taken together, which is better to take, or how exactly to take the NO portions of these.

O

I would take one or the other not both products together.

[bodybuilder03]

I would have to say AAEFX Kre-Alkalyn Pro stacked with AAEFX Nyrtic Pro, aweosme pumps and good focus and intensity..

[acidking]

i've just took my first scoop of shotgun, cannot compair to xplode yet, but xplode did me very well. Been off caffiene for 3 weeks since my xlopde ran out so i'll wait and see. Next i'd like to try Overdose, it seems to get good reviews.

[mht823]

can any one suggest how to take this stack:


WHITE FLOOD
GREEN MAG
UNI LIVER(UNIVERSAL NUTRITION)
DAILY FORMULA(UNIVERSAL NUTRITION)
GASPARI MYOFUSION

[j10nke]

Anyone help me out with this question asked in another thread? http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=119600941

As for the poster above... mix the GM and WF together and drink both before workout.

[dizterbd]

ive tried tons of no products. and honestly gaspari plasmajet blows them all away. not even comparable. i'm an aspiring personal trainer and tons of friends and co workers already take supplement and workout advice from me. and i have recommended them all to this product. plasmajet practically makes all other no supplements obsolete. it helps on so many different pathways that others products dont bother to touch on its almost not even worth comparing anything else to it. it has tons of precursors for no production in it, which many supplements dont contain. without precursors, most no supplements based almost solely on arginine deplete your no production after awhile because your body runs out of these essential precursors. its dramatically enhanced my strength and workout ability with only a few uses. i cycle it on for one month, off for a month, and back on for a month to give me a boost in strength, which it never fails to do. i don't even really have to touch on my vascularity from this product, everyone i know is always asking why are your veins always bulging, even when just sitting around. i recommend taking it 2-3 hrs before your workout, stacked with a couple scoops of superpump 250 right before you hit the gym (the super dump effect goes away after a few uses). only use it every other day like it says. if you have any knowledge on how no production works in the body, you understand why they tell u to do this. this preworkout stack is hands down by far the best. i recommend it to everyone, and it absolutely works. ps. dont buy from gnc for like 80 dollars. it can be bought online for up to half that price

[Jeph77]

so white rasberry WF has been out for a while now..... whats everyone got to say about the the new taste ?

[j10nke]

Very helpful info. Thanks a lot. It is looking more and more like my next NO product once I finish my bottle of nitrix. Reps.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

can any one suggest how to take this stack:


WHITE FLOOD
GREEN MAG
UNI LIVER(UNIVERSAL NUTRITION)
DAILY FORMULA(UNIVERSAL NUTRITION)
GASPARI MYOFUSION
white flood and green mag mixed together in one shake and taken 30 minutes preworkout. on off days take green magnitude at any time

so white rasberry WF has been out for a while now..... whats everyone got to say about the the new taste ?

taste feedback has been great, check the review section for the details on the NEW flavor!

[scoops1515]

I like Nitrix but best to stack it with NO Xplode. And stay away from Nano X9... ... gut ache.

[mht823]

i just bought a white flood tub ,its expiry is on 2010 but when i opened the tub powder had been solidify.when i contacted retailer he told me its becaz of weather so shld i take it or nt?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i just bought a white flood tub ,its expiry is on 2010 but when i opened the tub powder had been solidify.when i contacted retailer he told me its becaz of weather so shld i take it or nt?

please send me a PM so we can address your issue in more detail

[bjjbadboy]

on a cut just picked up the new animal cuts...can I stack this with an NO and creatine? I know the NO and the creatine absorb water and the animal cuts gets rid of water heard this is very bad to mix together.... I have taken a thermo in the morning for cardio then TRAC prework out for a while but hated the thermo so stopped...

Is stacking these 1)a waste 2)harmful

should i just wait to cut for the three weeks then bulk after(never do to much a bulk gotta make weight but lost alot from my hiatus) with an NO and Creatine

Main reason Im here is b/c I heard good things about WF...Does this contain creatine too or is just a stim and NO?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

FREE White Flood "White Raspberry" Flavor samples now on bb.com:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/flood.html


Main reason Im here is b/c I heard good things about WF...Does this contain creatine too or is just a stim and NO?

white flood is creatine free by design. for creatine look into stacking it with green magnitude or green bulge

[Jeph77]

Just got my rasberry WF in and i gotta say ...... its amazing, the taste is really good and it still has the crazy pump and energy the lemonade had. im excited.

[garrettadamsmith]

anyone have any recommendations for an NO product in pill form. ive done white blood/flood and no xplode and they made me feel sick, also nitrix didnt work on me. i will be stacking this with green mag thanks

[jeff732]

All hands down. Amazing stuff. You can stay up til 3 am . Wake up at 9 am and be tired as hell. Drink 12 oz 2 scoops and ull be a madman , the #1 thing that comes to your mind after only a few mins of drinking it all is "i have to lift, i have to run, now", ull be lifting way more than usual.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Just got my rasberry WF in and i gotta say ...... its amazing, the taste is really good and it still has the crazy pump and energy the lemonade had. im excited.
glad to hear it. the new raspberry is amazing and we have the free samples of course (as does the bb.com store) :)

anyone have any recommendations for an NO product in pill form. ive done white blood/flood and no xplode and they made me feel sick, also nitrix didnt work on me. i will be stacking this with green mag thanks

never heard of that with WB, how much water were you taking? what other products were you taking with it?

[RickinKY]

anyone have any recommendations for an NO product in pill form. ive done white blood/flood and no xplode and they made me feel sick, also nitrix didnt work on me. i will be stacking this with green mag thanks

Check this out: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/doubletsports/nobeta.html

[garrettadamsmith]

glad to hear it. the new raspberry is amazing and we have the free samples of course (as does the bb.com store) :)


never heard of that with WB, how much water were you taking? what other products were you taking with it?

i was taking white blood/green mag at the same time with orange triad and pw. the creatine worked, but i couldnt feel anything with the white blood

[garrettadamsmith]

can you stack green bulge and animal pump?

[AlphaBrass01]

can you stack green bulge and animal pump?
I don't think it would be harmful, but I don't know if it would be necessary.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i was taking white blood/green mag at the same time with orange triad and pw. the creatine worked, but i couldnt feel anything with the white blood so then it didnt make you fee "sick"?


can you stack green bulge and animal pump?
no need to use both together, see my post in the creatine thread in this section for your answer.

[Morphzero]

For me Superpump 250 Fruit Punch all the way. Just bought my 2nd and 3rd tub :D

[Dizzydog]

For me Superpump 250 Fruit Punch all the way. Just bought my 2nd and 3rd tub :D

Was using this for a bit and it just stopped working. I went all the way to close to 2.5 scoops before a workout as well. Need to find something else.

[IronBuddhist]

so white rasberry WF has been out for a while now..... whats everyone got to say about the the new taste ?

I tried a sample of it that I got in my last order and I have to say I was pretty disappointed. As a reference I have taken NO-Xplode before and really liked it except that you become used to the stimulants I think after a couple of weeks. I was hoping that WF would be something different that I could use on my next NO order :)

First the taste was horrible. I don't know if the pack i got was bad or anything but it tasted reallly chemically and didn't mix very well it seemed.

As for the focus and pump I was hoping for it just wasn't there. I dont know what to say other then that.

I think I will give SP 250 a shot next, I've heard good things about it.

[resuman]

I tried a sample of it that I got in my last order and I have to say I was pretty disappointed. As a reference I have taken NO-Xplode before and really liked it except that you become used to the stimulants I think after a couple of weeks. I was hoping that WF would be something different that I could use on my next NO order :)

First the taste was horrible. I don't know if the pack i got was bad or anything but it tasted reallly chemically and didn't mix very well it seemed.

As for the focus and pump I was hoping for it just wasn't there. I dont know what to say other then that.

I think I will give SP 250 a shot next, I've heard good things about it.

That pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly, I am going back to SP250

[haushinka]

I took a sample packet of White Flood today from the CL samples and it gave me the worst head ache. I went to the gym and did only 3 exercises before I just felt so bad I had to leave. I've had White Flood in pill form before and it was great.

It was so incredibly disappointing. I'm close to finishing a tub of jack3d and was looking into White Flood as my next purchase, now I may just get jack3d again.

I ate a good breakfast, drank plenty of water, they energy was so so and the head ache started. What could it had been?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I tried a sample of it that I got in my last order and I have to say I was pretty disappointed. As a reference I have taken NO-Xplode before and really liked it except that you become used to the stimulants I think after a couple of weeks. I was hoping that WF would be something different that I could use on my next NO order :)

First the taste was horrible. I don't know if the pack i got was bad or anything but it tasted reallly chemically and didn't mix very well it seemed.

As for the focus and pump I was hoping for it just wasn't there. I dont know what to say other then that.

I think I will give SP 250 a shot next, I've heard good things about it.
you tried a sample packet of the raspberry? or bought a tub? (if so, which flavor?)

I took a sample packet of White Flood today from the CL samples and it gave me the worst head ache. I went to the gym and did only 3 exercises before I just felt so bad I had to leave. I've had White Flood in pill form before and it was great.

It was so incredibly disappointing. I'm close to finishing a tub of jack3d and was looking into White Flood as my next purchase, now I may just get jack3d again.

I ate a good breakfast, drank plenty of water, they energy was so so and the head ache started. What could it had been?
sounds like you are sensitive to stims. for this reason we always write on the packets/tubs to start with a lower dose at first. continue to use the white flood tablets if you found those more to your liking. the powder does hit harder/faster since the tablets are time released.

[RedDragon514]

best n.o. product would be noxplode or white flood, i wasnt too impressed with superpump 250, but it did taste great haha.

concerning white flood-when i started it i got the tingling sensation some people quit, but after about 2 weeks of it, it just stopped, whats some possible reasons for this and how can i start to feel that again? thanks

[haushinka]

you tried a sample packet of the raspberry? or bought a tub? (if so, which flavor?)

sounds like you are sensitive to stims. for this reason we always write on the packets/tubs to start with a lower dose at first. continue to use the white flood tablets if you found those more to your liking. the powder does hit harder/faster since the tablets are time released.

Thing was it wasn't like I had a lot energy, even when I went home, I took an ibuprofen and took a nap around 1 hour and 15 minutes after I consumed it.

Maybe my body just wasn't up for it today, just an off day for me. Hopefully the White Flood sample packet is till up on BB when I make my next purchase, I'd love to try it again since its so comparable to Jack3d price/serving wise and I loved it before.

[IronBuddhist]

you tried a sample packet of the raspberry? or bought a tub? (if so, which flavor?)





I got a sample of it and it was white rasberry.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I got a sample of it and it was white rasberry.
very surprising as most love the new raspberry. it tastes amazing to me.

best n.o. product would be noxplode or white flood, i wasnt too impressed with superpump 250, but it did taste great haha.

concerning white flood-when i started it i got the tingling sensation some people quit, but after about 2 weeks of it, it just stopped, whats some possible reasons for this and how can i start to feel that again? thanks
that is from the beta alanine. in many people it subsides after continuous use. the tingle is a side effect and you get the benefits of the beta alanine even when the tingle no longer occurs

[dtown1984]

i havent tried much else, but force factor has been a nice surprise for me. i was lookign for something in pill form with no creatine or caffeine. i'm going on 3 months using it..no complaints here!

[IronBuddhist]

very surprising as most love the new raspberry. it tastes amazing to me.


yeah i dunno, could have just been a bad packet or something but it tasted very chemically and i didn't get any "white raspberry flavor" at all from it.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

yeah i dunno, could have just been a bad packet or something but it tasted very chemically and i didn't get any "white raspberry flavor" at all from it.

dont see how there could be anything wrong with it, but PM me with your address and I will get you another packet. make sure to take it by itself and not within an hour of brushing your teeth as that can change the taste

[Drummerboy]

Controlled, if I were to try your product line, what pre-intra-post setup would you recommend. I already have an unopened tub of Purple Wraath.

~D~

[strongly]

hemodraulix by axis labs is no joke! I just received my first batch today & it rocked my socks off.

my whole body tingle'd :) very happy so far.

[rebbs]

I am currently taking MRI black powder in the orange burst flavor. It boasts an instant release factor, which you can take right when you walk in the gym and your ready to go. This supplement is the real deal. I blast through my work outs leaving the gym questioning if I have beat myself up hard enough. After the pump has died down and you get to your post workout shake, and you realize that you cant even pick up a 12 oz protein shake; it solidifies that this stuff lets you reach you full potential while lifting.... I would recommend it to anyone and everyone.

[Ryan314]

Jack3d, by a land slide.

[TheNeenz]

Jack3d, by a land slide.

Couldn't agree more. Makes you feel wild, and its cheaper

[l.lai]

Of the ones i've tried (Labrada, SP250, WF, NO Xplode, NO Shotgun, NO Synthesize) I'd have to say SP250.

Jack3d is in the mail from the USA so the verdict will be out soon on how good this product really is.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Controlled, if I were to try your product line, what pre-intra-post setup would you recommend. I already have an unopened tub of Purple Wraath.

~D~
I would go

green magnitude and white flood mixed pre
purple wraath intra
golden gains post

this is budget permitting obviously

Couldn't agree more. Makes you feel wild, and its cheaper

cheaper than what?

[egygangsta91]

I would choose N.O. Pump by Tri-Pharm because it gave me all the energy I needed in the gym and it made me look more cut around my biceps and shoulders.

[RickinKY]

I have used NO Beta from Double T Sports for a few workouts; it does more for me than anything I have used in the past.

[perfektion]

NO-Beta does wonders

[Bliminal]

From best to worst.

No-Explode
Black powder
Super pump 250
Monster Pump
Armageddon

Always up for trying more No2 products.

[Wingdeezey]

So far for me

White Flood
Superpump 250
Shotgun
NO Xplode
Black Powder

[CONTROLLED LABS]

From best to worst.

No-Explode
Black powder
Super pump 250
Monster Pump
Armageddon

Always up for trying more No2 products.
no white flood on the list? :(

So far for me

White Flood
Superpump 250
Shotgun
NO Xplode
Black Powder

glad to see white flood at the top. which flavor did you use?

[\G/]

Jack3d, by a land slide.


Couldn't agree more. Makes you feel wild, and its cheaper

How did you guys find the muscle pump from Jack3d?

[Bliminal]

Hey, if you want to send, I'll receive and try!!!


no white flood on the list? :(


glad to see white flood at the top. which flavor did you use?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Hey, if you want to send, I'll receive and try!!!

sure, just type your credit card number in on our website ;)

[pooswa]

what are some stimulant free n.o. products?

[Inspired916]

whiiiiite giiiir..errr...floood!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

what are some stimulant free n.o. products?
white BLOOD is stim free

whiiiiite giiiir..errr...floood!

glad you like white flood. which flavor are you using?

[je1ani]

i tried White Flood and the taste was god awful. Don't get me wrong... it worked every well...but I couldn't stomach it in anyway. I still have my controlled stack with PW and GM but I mix green mag with jack3d and it's worked much better for me.

[NO HYPE]

what are some stimulant free n.o. products?

C-BOL is a NO/creatine product with no stims.... just unsurpassable sustained nitrate-mediated vasodilation.

[Peter LeDrew]

C-BOL is a NO/creatine product with no stims.... just unsurpassable sustained nitrate-mediated vasodilation.

A very good one! Possibly the best until P-Bol comes out.

[YeBro]

P-Bol? :confused:


hi new to this what do you thinks the best stack to gain musle

Green MAG + White Flood pre
Purple InTrain during
Golden Gains post

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i tried White Flood and the taste was god awful. Don't get me wrong... it worked every well...but I couldn't stomach it in anyway. I still have my controlled stack with PW and GM but I mix green mag with jack3d and it's worked much better for me. was this a long time ago? as we reflavored the lemonade a year or two ago and now tastes great as does the new raspberry. we have free samples (see link in my sig below for details) if you would like one of the new raspberry.






Green MAG + White Flood pre
Purple InTrain during
Golden Gains post

excellent stack, get this man a prize :D

[Gregry]

Just ordered some Jack3d and White Flood. Not sure which one ill go first, probs White flood cause i ordered some other CL samples and i wouldnt mind trying them out while using White Flood. See if their stack is as good as everyone says ha ha :)

[stas87]

BSN NO-EXPLODE (with cellmass combo, of course)

Gaspari and cl suck for me. They taste as **** as well.

[CRUCIATUS]

anyone supplementing these with straight AKG or AAKG powder or something else like Citriline Malate?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Just ordered some Jack3d and White Flood. Not sure which one ill go first, probs White flood cause i ordered some other CL samples and i wouldnt mind trying them out while using White Flood. See if their stack is as good as everyone says ha ha :)

sounds good. which samples did you get?

[Gregry]

sounds good. which samples did you get?

Green MAG, Purple Wrath and White Flood i think?? I live in Australia so i just got the ones off this site when i ordered. Should be here within the week :)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Green MAG, Purple Wrath and White Flood i think?? I live in Australia so i just got the ones off this site when i ordered. Should be here within the week :)

awesome, let us know how you like them when you get a chance. that is the new white flood raspberry they have in the sample packets now

[RickinKY]

I have never had such intense workouts as I have with NO Beta....The pumps are fantastic!

[mwiater21]

SUPER PUMP 250... enough said.

[rjme262]

MRI NO2 Black is amazing

[WilliamMuscle]

I'm using and enjoying much of the NO Shotgun V3 from Vpx

[cuttlikeWHAT]

im sorry but that is just entirely unaccurate bsn has totally sold out, there products have done absoulutly nothing for me, no xplode,cell mass, nitrex,tried them all, the only one worth a damn is the atrophex

[gym_issue]

jack3d.

[RickinKY]

Double T Sports NO Beta

[shakenemdown]

Ignoring the powders like No xplode I don't understand how they are differnt. THey all want you taking servings of 3 grams of AAKG. Unless there is a good reason I say get the cheapest you can from a brand you trust.

As for Noxplode...it's just too freaking expensive. I don't like that it's full of caffine. It's not enough AAKG, you'd need to sup more unless you JUST want a pump.

I have tried NO Shotgun? I have tried many other NO products and NO shotgun is by far the best one that i have found. I only have to take 1 scoop of the NO shotgun and i get extreme muscle pumps and strength. I use to take no explode and i was taking 3 scoops of it and it still wasnt as good as just 1 scoop of NO shotgun. plus with each scoop of the NO shotgun you get 20g of protein. It is definetly worth trying out!

[SteveISU16]

SUPER PUMP 250... enough said.


Just don't get the Blue Rasberry Ice, dear god it's horrible tasting. Can't say I look forward to using it.

[yzf600r]

is white flood any good?

[lukegfaulkner]

If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)

I would say "Black Powder" from MRI works the best for me. I also have been taking just strait L-Arginine, both give good pumps but the Black Powder has more to offer.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

is white flood any good?

is this rhetorical? :D

its VERY good. we also offer free samples, check the link in my signature below for details :)

[sl4vik]

Double T Sports NO Beta

Are you paid by them? Every post you make I see you shilling this product.

All it is 3g of AAKG and CEE (which has been proven useless.) If you are not an undercover rep I don't know who is.

[RickinKY]

Are you paid by them? Every post you make I see you shilling this product.

All it is 3g of AAKG and CEE (which has been proven useless.) If you are not an undercover rep I don't know who is.

No, I am not a paid rep; I do know that I get better response from NO Beta than anything I have tried. Maybe it's the combination of ingredients, i don't know....Maybe it works for me and nobody else, who knows.....

[BasRutten]

is white flood any good?

hell yes

[CONTROLLED LABS]

hell yes

simple and sweet :D

what flavor of white flood are you using?

[omega1999]

Gaspari PlasmaJet. Skin tearing pumps even on a low carb diet especially in the arms. Just ordered SP250, if it's as good as it's rating the stack should take it to the next level.

[Jeff5886]

Just got done using NO Infuse from LG. Felt like a freak in the gym, even my boss that works out with me (female) couldn't stop staring. For me its usually hit of miss with NO products but I will def continue to use this.

http://www.lgsciences.com/NOinfuse-p/no-infuse.htm

[slappydog]

NRG-X Labs Overdose I really like

[TheBigRigatoni]

NRG-X Labs Overdose I really like

Thanks bro...hope you enjoy..don't forget that Bad Intentions Stack...that's the ultimate stack for pump, focus, energy and recovery

[slappydog]

Thanks bro...hope you enjoy..don't forget that Bad Intentions Stack...that's the ultimate stack for pump, focus, energy and recovery

I just ordered the Bad Intentions Stack will give you feedback on that

[TheBigRigatoni]

I just ordered the Bad Intentions Stack will give you feedback on that

sweet..looking forward to it...if it looks good, we will post on our blog site...

[slappydog]

sweet..looking forward to it...if it looks good, we will post on our blog site...

I allready have maxx pump, beta maxx, overdose I have been taking this week. One more I will have the full stack really good supplement's.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

amazing deal on a white flood stack at bb.com:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=120391941

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/purple-green-white.html

get it fast at a great price. normally this is $106 bucks from bb.com, now only $99, then use the 10% discount get all 3 for $90 bucks :eek:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/purple-green-white.jpg

[TheBigRigatoni]

amazing deal on a white flood stack at bb.com:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=120391941

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/purple-green-white.html

get it fast at a great price. normally this is $106 bucks from bb.com, now only $99, then use the 10% discount get all 3 for $90 bucks :eek:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/purple-green-white.jpg

great stack deal.

[Jacked_Brah]

amazing deal on a white flood stack at bb.com:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=120391941

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/purple-green-white.html

get it fast at a great price. normally this is $106 bucks from bb.com, now only $99, then use the 10% discount get all 3 for $90 bucks :eek:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/purple-green-white.jpg

Wow i wish there was stacks like this in Australia available...

As you can tell by the user name I rate white flood the best...

Tried NOXplode, Super pump 250, NOShotgun and I just think Flood is superior whether it be the extra caffeine hit and Beta Alanine but it just gives me the best pumps and lifts

[domzkidot]

nano vapor or superpump250? sadly i cant find controlled labs here in the philippines

[CONTROLLED LABS]

great stack deal.
for sure :)

Wow i wish there was stacks like this in Australia available...

As you can tell by the user name I rate white flood the best...

Tried NOXplode, Super pump 250, NOShotgun and I just think Flood is superior whether it be the extra caffeine hit and Beta Alanine but it just gives me the best pumps and lifts
glad to hear your a fan of white flood :)

nano vapor or superpump250? sadly i cant find controlled labs here in the philippines
check our website, we have a distributor in singapore and Malaysia you can probably get from if you cant order from bb.com

[domzkidot]

for sure :)

glad to hear your a fan of white flood :)

check our website, we have a distributor in singapore and Malaysia you can probably get from if you cant order from bb.com
i have a supplier and he promised me that he's gonna get Cl products soon because theres a lot of demand for it. but if you were in my situation sp250 or nano vapor? i wont tell :D

[iForce Dave]

have you guys checked out Hemavol? Id like to see what you all think. IMO its one of the most unique NO products available.

[Dweingardt]

Do you take the White Flood stack all pre-workout?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i have a supplier and he promised me that he's gonna get Cl products soon because theres a lot of demand for it. but if you were in my situation sp250 or nano vapor? i wont tell :D
sounds good. let me know the name and we can email them directly.

Do you take the White Flood stack all pre-workout?

yes, 30 mins pre

[domzkidot]

sounds good. let me know the name and we can email them directly.


yes, 30 mins pre
nah its just one person who sells supps on the net. il tell him about your offer though.

[raylors]

Sp 250

[CONTROLLED LABS]

nah its just one person who sells supps on the net. il tell him about your offer though.

ok, we have a distributor in asia that can supply him

[domzkidot]

ok, we have a distributor in asia that can supply him
hope we get good prices on that :D

[CONTROLLED LABS]

hope we get good prices on that :D

I am sure they will be good, but not as cheap as the US obviously.

[champnacious]

Jack3d is the best pre-workout supp I have tried. I have tried NO-Xplode, SP 250, Shotgun, Fast Twitch, Whiteflood. Jack3d tops all of these. No jitters, such a clean feeling and awesome pumps! Best part is you wont feel like you have been hit by a truck and want to crash after your workout.... thats my 2 cents.

[STIMMS]

White Flooooooooooooooooooooood all day long

[taquintana07]

Explode has been working for me...i do get jitters from time to time but thats all...gonna try white flood next.

[RaveBDK]

NO supplement that gave the one time best: Jack3d.

However, Jack3d was AMAZING (quite ridiculous infact) for about 5 workouts...After that it died and was as useful as water...like literally i became immune to it and its pointless now.

NO supplement that has been pretty effective and given me consistant results:

MRI black powder.



Overall I would go for Black Powder any day...but nothing compares to those first few doses of jack3d.

edit: Who crashes after their workouts from PWO supps? I guess im not really sensitive to stims...I dont get jittery EVER, and i never crash. Stims (like Slim-Xtreme/ MAN Scorch...but especially Slim Xtreme) only give me "anti-crashes" where I dont crash....my energy goes up and up and up...to the point where my eyes become sore and my jaw uncontrollably clenches. Never ever do I crash though...i slowly wind down after i stop taking it (takes about 2 days), but my energy is always UP while on stims...never goes below normal.

[djm6464]

NO supplement that gave the one time best: Jack3d.

However, Jack3d was AMAZING (quite ridiculous infact) for about 5 workouts...After that it died and was as useful as water...like literally i became immune to it and its pointless now.

NO supplement that has been pretty effective and given me consistant results:

MRI black powder.



Overall I would go for Black Powder any day...but nothing compares to those first few doses of jack3d.

edit: Who crashes after their workouts from PWO supps? I guess im not really sensitive to stims...I dont get jittery EVER, and i never crash. Stims (like Slim-Xtreme/ MAN Scorch...but especially Slim Xtreme) only give me "anti-crashes" where I dont crash....my energy goes up and up and up...to the point where my eyes become sore and my jaw uncontrollably clenches. Never ever do I crash though...i slowly wind down after i stop taking it (takes about 2 days), but my energy is always UP while on stims...never goes below normal.

iv used alot, jacked/dominatp combo i thought was best....until i hesitantly tried con-cret...holy ****, i felt like i was 'on' towards end of 1st bottle, you feel full and strong, just its $$$$$ n you gotta stack it wit something that has kick (adrenalene/musclespeed)

[un19]

hemavol is crazy, it dominates all. i used to think that nitrix was the ****, but i just got my bottles of hemavol the other day and i've done 3 doses already and my arms get more swole/vascular everytime i use it.

[Tobi_DXB]

ok, we have a distributor in asia that can supply him

Can you give me the Asian Supplier's details?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

White Flooooooooooooooooooooood all day long
for sure, great stuff. which flavor do you have?

Explode has been working for me...i do get jitters from time to time but thats all...gonna try white flood next.
you will love white flood. when you try it out, please leave a review.

Can you give me the Asian Supplier's details?

they are all listed on the retailers contact page on our website

[domzkidot]

using sp250 now and found the correct way to use it. will try white flood when we hook up with the asian supplier

[rjme262]

hands down NO Xplode

[psmitty14]

why hasn't anyone said NO Shotgun, its fkn amazing

i liked it way better than sp250

[pitsnake2]

Ne1 ever try N.O. Monster by colossal labs? I wanna kno if its worth the buy or not

[iForce Dave]

hemavol is crazy, it dominates all. i used to think that nitrix was the ****, but i just got my bottles of hemavol the other day and i've done 3 doses already and my arms get more swole/vascular everytime i use it.

AWESOME!!!

GLad to see you are liking it. I think hemavol dominates every other product in this category. Even the ones still being pimped in this thread arent very good at actually raising NO levels and increasing performance.

Mostly stims and hype if you ask me!

[BOOSTEDDUDE]

Has anyone tried the new No Xplode NT? It sounds really good from what I've read. It's quite expensive but I'd love to hear from anyone who's had it that's familiar with the original formula. I'm getting excited to try some new ones in about a month!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

using sp250 now and found the correct way to use it. will try white flood when we hook up with the asian supplier

looking forward to your feedback on white flood

[(b-,-)b]

need reviews about the following.

jack3d
shock therapy
white flood.


*i don't want to hear from a rep because i can already guess what you are gonna tell me. But, if the rep lifts and has seen gains from it, then please go ahead and share.

[domzkidot]

looking forward to your feedback on white flood
we need to get that supplier though then flood the philippines with CL

[jsmittyosu]

Has anyone tried White Flood?...I have tried NaNO Vapor (not a fan), NO Shotgun (my second favorite even though it tastes like crap), Black Powder and NO Xplod.

If I had to rank them in order of effectiveness, it would go like this:

1. White flood (This stuff is flat out amazing, tastes good too, the lemonade flavor)
2. White flood
3. White flood
4. NO Shotgun (Works very well, tastes absolutely horrible though)
5. NO Xplod (Works, but wears off quickly and body becomes immune quickly)
6. Black Powder (Very subtle, good taste, too expensive, not quite the pump I wanted)
100. NaNO Vapor (This stuff is crap, lots of side effects, decent pump, this company needs to spend more on R&D and less on marketing)

That is my 2 cents...I want to try superpump but I heard it makes you have to run to the bathroom throughout the workout and I do not wanna give up white flood because it is insane! If you have never tried White Flood, please do so

[jsmittyosu]

need reviews about the following.

jack3d
shock therapy
white flood.


*i don't want to hear from a rep because i can already guess what you are gonna tell me. But, if the rep lifts and has seen gains from it, then please go ahead and share.

I have not tried the other 2, but I've tried many NO products and White Flood is awesome! I want to try new stuff, but I don't think I will because White Flood is insane...it is well worth the try and the money...only one scoop per workout needed

[domzkidot]

i dont get the ****s from sp250. works well with me. i will try that white flood once we get that to our shores though

[Disturbed0Ne]

Currently using BSN Nitrix.


I'm going to narrow down my possible choices since I'm looking for a new NO product to use.

Gaspari Superpump250-I've been using this, took some time off the cycle and I just finished my second cycle. Problem is, the results and effects have not been as powerful as the first time...

BSN Nitrix

Controlled Labs White Flood--The one I'm looking at now, alot of people I know have good things to say about this one.

-0Ne

[CONTROLLED LABS]

need reviews about the following.

jack3d
shock therapy
white flood.


*i don't want to hear from a rep because i can already guess what you are gonna tell me. But, if the rep lifts and has seen gains from it, then please go ahead and share.
plenty of review on white flood in this thread and many others on the site. check them all out.

we need to get that supplier though then flood the philippines with CL
email is sent, we shall see.

Has anyone tried White Flood?...I have tried NaNO Vapor (not a fan), NO Shotgun (my second favorite even though it tastes like crap), Black Powder and NO Xplod.

If I had to rank them in order of effectiveness, it would go like this:

1. White flood (This stuff is flat out amazing, tastes good too, the lemonade flavor)
2. White flood
3. White flood
4. NO Shotgun (Works very well, tastes absolutely horrible though)
5. NO Xplod (Works, but wears off quickly and body becomes immune quickly)
6. Black Powder (Very subtle, good taste, too expensive, not quite the pump I wanted)
100. NaNO Vapor (This stuff is crap, lots of side effects, decent pump, this company needs to spend more on R&D and less on marketing)

That is my 2 cents...I want to try superpump but I heard it makes you have to run to the bathroom throughout the workout and I do not wanna give up white flood because it is insane! If you have never tried White Flood, please do so


I have not tried the other 2, but I've tried many NO products and White Flood is awesome! I want to try new stuff, but I don't think I will because White Flood is insane...it is well worth the try and the money...only one scoop per workout needed
thanks guys, white flood truly is one of a kind and we have free samples for those who wish to try it before they buy (check my signature below for details)

I'm going to narrow down my possible choices since I'm looking for a new NO product to use.

Gaspari Superpump250-I've been using this, took some time off the cycle and I just finished my second cycle. Problem is, the results and effects have not been as powerful as the first time...

BSN Nitrix

Controlled Labs White Flood--The one I'm looking at now, alot of people I know have good things to say about this one.

-0Ne

let us know how you like white flood once you get a chance to try it out :)

[JerryRock]

NO XPLODE by BSN
Bests trainings ever while taking this...!

[wrongpipe]

hands down NO Xplode

lol @ u

[NO HYPE]

~

C-BOL bump.



The vasodilating properties of dietary nitrates are irrefutable. The clinical use of nitrates indicate that they [significantly] enhance systemic vasodilation. Both nitrate and nitrite can be recycled to produce nitric oxide in a variety of ways. They provide a NOS-independent source of NO, and release NO in an extremely wide distribution of tissues. Nitrite has been investigated as a vasodilator for over 125 years and is a by-product of organic nitrate metabolism.

Based on studies by Tannenbaum 1994; Kelm and Yoshida 1996, nitrates remain in circulation and significantly enhance NO production for around 10 to 16-hours post-administration. Enhanced systemic NO distribution increases blood flow to the muscle itself, thereby enhancing muscle force production/growth/repair.

Dietary nitrate has been shown to reduce diastolic blood pressure in healthy volunteers [Larsen, Ekblom et al. 2006]. Kleinbongard/Dejam et al. 2006, demonstrated that plasma nitrite levels progressively decrease with increasing cardiovascular risk load [risk factors included age, hypertension, high blood cholesterol, and smoking]. It has been proposed that a continuous intake of dietary nitrate may help to maintain tissue levels of nitrite and NO at adequate levels [even when endogneous enzymatic synthesis of NO is disturbed].


Acta Physiol (Oxf). 2007 Sep;191(1):59-66. Epub 2007 Jul 17.
Effects of dietary nitrate on oxygen cost during exercise.
Larsen FJ, Weitzberg E, Lundberg JO, Ekblom B.
Department of Physiology and Pharmacology, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden.

AIM: Nitric oxide (NO), synthesized from l-arginine by NO synthases, plays a role in adaptation to physical exercise by modulating blood flow, muscular contraction and glucose uptake and in the control of cellular respiration. Recent studies show that NO can be formed in vivo also from the reduction of inorganic nitrate (NO(3) (-)) and nitrite (NO(2) (-)). The diet constitutes a major source of nitrate, and vegetables are particularly rich in this anion. The aim of this study was to investigate if dietary nitrate had any effect on metabolic and circulatory parameters during exercise. METHOD: In a randomized double-blind placebo-controlled crossover study, we tested the effect of dietary nitrate on physiological and metabolic parameters during exercise. Nine healthy young well-trained men performed submaximal and maximal work tests on a cycle ergometer after two separate 3-day periods of dietary supplementation with sodium nitrate (0.1 mmol kg(-1) day-1) or an equal amount of sodium chloride (placebo). RESULTS: The oxygen cost at submaximal exercise was reduced after nitrate supplementation compared with placebo. On an average Vo(2) decreased from 2.98 +/- 0.57 during CON to 2.82 +/- 0.58 L min(-1) during NIT (P < 0.02) over the four lowest submaximal work rates. Gross efficiency increased from 19.7 +/- 1.6 during CON to 21.1 +/- 1.3% during NIT (P < 0.01) over the four lowest work rates. There was no difference in heart rate, lactate [Hla], ventilation (VE), VE/Vo(2) or respiratory exchange ratio between nitrate and placebo during any of the submaximal work rates. CONCLUSION: We conclude that dietary nitrate supplementation, in an amount achievable through a diet rich in vegetables, results in a lower oxygen demand during submaximal work. This highly surprising effect occurred without an accompanying increase in lactate concentration, indicating that the energy production had become more efficient. The mechanism of action needs to be clarified but a likely first step is the in vivo reduction of dietary nitrate into bioactive nitrogen oxides including nitrite and NO.


J Appl Physiol 107: 1144-1155, 2009. First published August 6, 2009; doi:10.1152/japplphysiol.00722.2009
Stephen J. Bailey,1 Paul Winyard,2 Anni Vanhatalo,1 Jamie R. Blackwell,1 Fred J. DiMenna,1 Daryl P. Wilkerson,1 Joanna Tarr,2 Nigel Benjamin,2 and Andrew M. Jones1
Dietary nitrate supplementation reduces the O2 cost of low-intensity exercise and enhances tolerance to high-intensity exercise in humans

Pharmacological sodium nitrate supplementation has been reported to reduce the O2 cost of submaximal exercise in humans. In this study, we hypothesized that dietary supplementation with inorganic nitrate in the form of beetroot juice (BR) would reduce the O2 cost of submaximal exercise and enhance the tolerance to high-intensity exercise. In a double-blind, placebo (PL)-controlled, crossover study, eight men (aged 19-38 yr) consumed 500 ml/day of either BR (containing 11.2 - 0.6 mM of nitrate) or blackcurrant cordial (as a PL, with negligible nitrate content) for 6 consecutive days and completed a series of "step" moderate-intensity and severe-intensity exercise tests on the last 3 days. On days 4-6, plasma nitrite concentration was significantly greater following dietary nitrate supplementation compared with PL (BR: 273 - 44 vs. PL: 140 - 50 nM; P < 0.05), and systolic blood pressure was significantly reduced (BR: 124 - 2 vs. PL: 132 - 5 mmHg; P < 0.01). During moderate exercise, nitrate supplementation reduced muscle fractional O2 extraction (as estimated using near-infrared spectroscopy). The gain of the increase in pulmonary O2 uptake following the onset of moderate exercise was reduced by 19% in the BR condition (BR: 8.6 - 0.7 vs. PL: 10.8 - 1.6 ml-min-1-W-1; P < 0.05). During severe exercise, the O2 uptake slow component was reduced (BR: 0.57 ? 0.20 vs. PL: 0.74 - 0.24 l/min; P < 0.05), and the time-to-exhaustion was extended (BR: 675 - 203 vs. PL: 583 ? 145 s; P < 0.05). The reduced O2 cost of exercise following increased dietary nitrate intake has important implications for our understanding of the factors that regulate mitochondrial respiration and muscle contractile energetics in humans.

[Jag24]

I just went back to SP 250. It's probably the best no product on the market in my opinion. I stopped using Jack3d because it made me feel like **** for the rest of the day after my workouts and I really didn't feel anything while using it. Matter of fact I think all USP products don't do ****. Like I said only my opinion.

[iznasty]

Just started White Flood this week, switched from NO Xplode. Amazing energy and focus, love it!

[armyguy0587]

Grape superpump250 is by far the best I've ever had hands down

[BOOSTEDDUDE]

Grape superpump250 is by far the best I've ever had hands down

Oh wow, I'm a HUGE SP250 lover myself. Been a few months since I've had it. I went through two jugs (Lemon and Some other one). Both tasted good but after having a sample of the Fruit Punch I was blown away at how good it tasted! I'd like to try the grape but I'll get Fruit punch next. I love the drive SP250 give me!

[drew93]

clearshot concentrate anyone?

[Aussie_Mass]

clearshot concentrate anyone?

Yes. That is a well known NO product isn't it.
















































OR maybe not.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Just started White Flood this week, switched from NO Xplode. Amazing energy and focus, love it!

awesome to hear, thanks for trying white flood. what flavor do you have? :)

[nmanfredi43]

Grape superpump250 is by far the best I've ever had hands down

I fully agree, I used plasma jet for awhile and i always used n.o. xplode I decided to buy superpump 250 and I am fully hooked on it. the pumps, I get and focus is unbelievable.

[Masterdeb8tr]

well i have tried several NO products ill list them and tried them all the same way.I will try some other stuff in this thread as well. Also of note i dont like stims and most of these products have em. Dont drink cofee or soda , only water, milk and diet decaf green tea sometimes.

Plasma jet seemed to be best overall for pumps. but thats it no other effect?

Jacked : i like overall it give me better pumps then white flood , with good energy. side effect of a more tingle. also seems more consistent then white flood use after use. another bad side effect was my ears felt clogged and just a strange "sick" feeling for a couple hours after.

White flood was great the first time i used it had decent pump great "menta focusl" help. as well as good energy. but it seems my body got used to it way too fast compared to others. Also it goes bad fast and easy with humidity.

i have not gone through super pump 250 fully as it gave be stomach issues.

Nano vapor . very little pump , bad taste

Mri No2 plat. might as well be sugar pills

back a few years ago musletech had a n0 product that were big red horse pills . they were good for a decent pump as well.

I have also tried combo of WF and plasma jet, that gave great pump but its and expensive combo , had to go with this as WF itself was not doing much.

[shifter87]

Have to say this is a really long list but I Prefer Jack3d to any I have tried the tingle motivates me, it's telling you your ready for anything while some you have to have a mirror to see your veins surge I could be blind folded and know it's working.

[2high2die]

Just got done with a tub of white flood and while I did like it...I felt extremely itchy and hot after my workouts. Another downside was that it started to lose it's potency half way through my 30 day run. So I decided to purchase jacked tonight and hopefully I fall in love with its simple, no filler formula. So far, superpump has been my absolute favorite pre-workout (lemon-burst is simply amazing) and the intensity remained constant for me throughout the whole tub. I wish I could drink it three times a day, because it is just so sensational. I will let you know how the jacked turns out and by the way, I still love my green mag cl. Was also going to purchase green mag and xtend at gnc today, but they didn't carry it and the worker had no clue what those two products were. F'n idiot!

[mthw]

Hey all! First post.

Today was my first day of N.O.X-plode. All I can say is, WOW. I took it about 8 hours ago on an empty stomach and I feel like I still have enough energy to go back to the gym. I benched an extra 20lbs.. which I think is really impressive.

I felt really jittery all day, and super alert and cognizant of everything. I took a post workout protein shake, and thats all I've eaten all day... just haven't had the appetite.

Looking forward to more gains!