View Full Version : Best Overall Nitric Oxide (NO) Product?
Travis Moore
12-26-2008, 02:50 AM
What NO products don't contain creatine?
silversv1k
12-26-2008, 03:09 AM
What NO products don't contain creatine?
white flood doesnt
urbanlifter
12-26-2008, 06:45 AM
white flood doesnt
True, I think I remember seeing a Rep. from Controlled Labs saying White Flood is good for cycling off other pre-workout stimulants.
simpleguy
12-26-2008, 07:03 AM
True, I think I remember seeing a Rep. from Controlled Labs saying White Flood is good for cycling off other pre-workout stimulants.
you're probably confused... doesn't have anything to do with that
Mr.Natural101
12-26-2008, 07:05 AM
omg omg supercharge ftw but idk if it has creatine
ossizen
12-26-2008, 07:07 AM
I heard good things about VPX Shotgun. I ordered some Christmas Eve. :)
MMIS90
12-26-2008, 07:58 AM
I heard good things about VPX Shotgun. I ordered some Christmas Eve. :)
lovvvvvvvvvved shotgun. ive tried many NO supplements and this by far gave me my best gains. just orded a tub last night :)
RDFinders
12-26-2008, 08:25 AM
Full blown extreme by Max Muscle is hands down the best. Doesn't stop working b/c when you buy another bottle and start using it. Works everytime.
TJ2000
12-26-2008, 09:13 AM
Super charged is good stuff, haven't had it in a while though.
I've been using Amped by met rx for the past few weeks and its good but I think super charge edges it out a bit.
vance1209
12-26-2008, 10:27 AM
superchage is coo but theres hella better products out there chek out powerpump from SSS, or superpump frm Gaspari i think u will be much more impressed
CONTROLLED LABS
12-26-2008, 10:39 AM
Well, my first dose of White Flood in almost a year. Let's see how it goes!
wow, why the long hiatus?
white flood doesnt
correct, makes it very flexible
True, I think I remember seeing a Rep. from Controlled Labs saying White Flood is good for cycling off other pre-workout stimulants.
white blood is stim free, I think this is what you are referring to :)
urbanlifter
12-26-2008, 11:50 AM
wow, why the long hiatus?
correct, makes it very flexible
white blood is stim free, I think this is what you are referring to :)
Sorry, must have missed the White "Blood" part.
Thnx
ericcasas
12-26-2008, 12:04 PM
I am also going to have to go with BSN's Nitrix. Almost every time I do a work out I am sore the next couple of days. I know there is no loading phase for it, but I wanted to allow a few days for it to build in my system. In doing so, there was absolutely no disappointment. I did a hard chest work out and felt really good doing it. Got a really serious pump! I was convinced that after this one I was going to be in some pain in a couple of days. To my surprise, nothing but a little stiffness. I was amazed at how well it allowed me to recover.
FYI, Nitrix is a timed release creatine supplement and NOT a Nitric Oxide supp. BSN's Nitric Oxide supp is obviously N.O. Explode. It's great stuff. Also, I'm surprised more people aren't saying "Animal Pump!!" I take Animal Pump and one scoop of N.O. Explode and I'm set for a two hour killer workout.
-E
vitall
12-26-2008, 01:20 PM
What's the best replacement to no-xplode that has no caffeine? No-xplode works pretty well but it just keeps me up too long at night.
ericcasas
12-26-2008, 06:14 PM
What's the best replacement to no-xplode that has no caffeine? No-xplode works pretty well but it just keeps me up too long at night.
Dang, bro. I dont know if one exists. I sometimes have to resort to nature's cure for insomnia and just rub one out. HAHHAHAHHAHAHA!!!
-E
vitall
12-26-2008, 07:09 PM
Dang, bro. I dont know if one exists. I sometimes have to resort to nature's cure for insomnia and just rub one out. HAHHAHAHHAHAHA!!!
-E
already tried that bro.. it only keeps something else from staying up... ha ha..
faranda81
12-26-2008, 11:04 PM
Anyone I need some personal adviceo on this.
Previously I took nano-x9 and nano vapor together got a great pump but after 2 weeks it was all gone.
So I then bought N30 powder the pre blackpowder stuff, it was actually better than both muscle tech products put together. If they still made the powder I would take it no questions but they dont so I am on the hunt.
I bought a couple blister packs of gaspari's plasma jet.
I was thinking of buying either super pump 250 or no xplode, or even the black powder. Whats your guys opinion on this what one should I buy, money is no object.
I have also taken some muscle asylum products they are ok a little better than muscle tech but, still no comparison to MRI N30.
SO anyone with help would be aprricaiated.
Thanks all
locdogg89
12-26-2008, 11:28 PM
ive only used one and for the first time today. awesome.
supercharge xtreme no.
cut my usual hour workout to 45 mins. more intense. less rest between sets. concentration.
worked well for first time..time will tell overall
pittjoe33
12-27-2008, 05:31 AM
FYI, Nitrix is a timed release creatine supplement and NOT a Nitric Oxide supp. BSN's Nitric Oxide supp is obviously N.O. Explode. It's great stuff. Also, I'm surprised more people aren't saying "Animal Pump!!" I take Animal Pump and one scoop of N.O. Explode and I'm set for a two hour killer workout.
-E
You're both correct, kind of. It's a Nitric Oxide supplement, thus the name Nitrix, but it also contains several forms of creatine.
ossizen
12-27-2008, 06:29 AM
Last night I cracked open my first bottle of IBE XForce before my workout. 2 capsules and I was feeling it 15 minutes later. I felt like I wanted to keep working out. Hitting a PR and then some.
I know it's not an NO per se, but I got quite pumped. I hit 16.25" on both arms, and it was a chest workout. :eek:
sklump
12-27-2008, 09:38 AM
already tried that bro.. it only keeps something else from staying up... ha ha..
I know what you mean, Novedex is waking me up at 4AM every day and I can't go back to sleep.
I saw Dymatize at my local supp store and they had a caffeine free NO product. I personally need that kick in the pants, especially in the morning. In regards to my fave, I have tried NO explode and I just can't get it down (I think it works great if you can get over the nasty taste), tried Hi-Health's 25000 Elite and I am convinced it's just a bunch of bad tasting crap with some creatine added, it also tastes like soap which is weird.
I am now taking Superpump 250 and today will be my first workout with it. So far I think it tastes the best, but we'll see if I get the same results as NO explode.
vitall
12-27-2008, 10:47 AM
Anyone tried Fast Twitch Caffeine Free?
hickpuff
12-27-2008, 04:45 PM
I've been using MRI's Black Powder and have had an amazing first week and a half using it. Had this amazing, focused energy...wanted to keep lifting despite the fact I was at failure and focused muscle groups were shaking!
CONTROLLED LABS
12-27-2008, 05:07 PM
Sorry, must have missed the White "Blood" part.
Thnx
no problem
HeGirA
12-27-2008, 05:38 PM
ive tried animal pump, no xplode and white flood...and i think white flood blows all of them away..hands down!
IronG
12-28-2008, 12:57 AM
How does Shock Therapy compare to Animal Pump?....they are both NO products made by Universal. I've tried Animal Pump and it was awesome, but i'm curious to hear some opinions on how Shock Therapy compares to it.
jrstronge
12-28-2008, 05:05 AM
MRI BlackPowder
tnsfinest
12-28-2008, 01:58 PM
How does Shock Therapy compare to Animal Pump?....they are both NO products made by Universal. I've tried Animal Pump and it was awesome, but i'm curious to hear some opinions on how Shock Therapy compares to it.
I've been through a can of Animal Pump and now I'm using Shock Therapy. In my opinion, with ST, the energy and focus is a bit better, more smooth than jittery. The pump is not as pronounced as with AP, but it's not too far behind. 50 servings of ST @ $30 is a pretty good price, plus the taste and mixability are very good.
Bmo20
12-28-2008, 02:36 PM
Anyone tried Fast Twitch Caffeine Free?
Ive used this, it worked decently but I really hated the taste. I bought the lemonade flavor and the first couple times i felt like i was going to throw up while working out
I personally use supercharge extreme and I love it, but going to try something else with my next order
silver03cobra
12-28-2008, 03:55 PM
Anyone I need some personal adviceo on this.
Previously I took nano-x9 and nano vapor together got a great pump but after 2 weeks it was all gone.
So I then bought N30 powder the pre blackpowder stuff, it was actually better than both muscle tech products put together. If they still made the powder I would take it no questions but they dont so I am on the hunt.
I bought a couple blister packs of gaspari's plasma jet.
I was thinking of buying either super pump 250 or no xplode, or even the black powder. Whats your guys opinion on this what one should I buy, money is no object.
I have also taken some muscle asylum products they are ok a little better than muscle tech but, still no comparison to MRI N30.
SO anyone with help would be aprricaiated.
Thanks all
I would definately go with either superpump or No explode. They are both pretty good but I had a little bit better pump with No. I'm finishing my tub of superpump and waiting for my white flood tabs! Can't wait, they're supposed to be really good too.
Bigcountry25
12-28-2008, 04:59 PM
dose any body know if you can stack n.o. with a eca stack
ossizen
12-28-2008, 06:26 PM
w00t! My Shotgun order just left the KCMO post office distribution center (other side of the KC metro). I'll be getting it tomorrow. :D
microspot
12-29-2008, 03:48 AM
plasma jet from gaspari nutrition is giving me insane pumps and is very convenient to take, I take it only twice a week.
I'm waiting to finish my first box to post a thread about it. I want to see if I the effects lessen with time before writing a complete review.
05impalaSS
12-29-2008, 03:52 AM
IMO NO Xplode.
Kevin345
12-29-2008, 09:18 AM
I have been takeing Gaspari's Superpump250 for 4 weeks. im cycling of it for about a week to two weeks. i have seen great strength results from it. i 100% recomend it. get the blueberry one or what ever it is. my bench press has gone up 15 pounds within the last 3 weeks of useing it. it also gets you extremely veiny but hey, it works.
faranda81
12-29-2008, 08:43 PM
I would definately go with either superpump or No explode. They are both pretty good but I had a little bit better pump with No. I'm finishing my tub of superpump and waiting for my white flood tabs! Can't wait, they're supposed to be really good too.
Thanks brother it helps I am going to go with NO XPLOD I got a really good deal for it on Mass nutrition.com slow shipping but for the price well worth it. 80 servings for 44 bucks.
Thanks again
bighardkore
12-30-2008, 01:18 AM
I never hear anybody talking about StarChem Labs Armageddon, it really works well, finished 2 containers and it's still working.
wildwildwest
12-30-2008, 06:10 AM
I go back and forth between Blackpowder (excellent) and Superpump (also excellent). I get a little more bang for the buck with the Blackpowder...no pun intended. I also stack with the Sizeon. Lots of strength gains as well as size. You hold some water, but it's winter.
wynner64
12-30-2008, 04:29 PM
Just purchased BSN-NO Explode off this site. I was hesitating on buying it for awhile, but checked this thread to see if it was a good buy. Judging by the posts, looks like I made a good decision! Can't wait for it to ship in!
CONTROLLED LABS
12-30-2008, 09:43 PM
ive tried animal pump, no xplode and white flood...and i think white flood blows all of them away..hands down!
awesome, those are some heavy hitters, so we are honored
I would definately go with either superpump or No explode. They are both pretty good but I had a little bit better pump with No. I'm finishing my tub of superpump and waiting for my white flood tabs! Can't wait, they're supposed to be really good too.
please let us know how you like the white flood tablets, I hope you are satisfied with them :)
DaveGabe24
12-31-2008, 12:33 AM
x2. Presurge is the best PWO NO product I've tried to date. Definitely look into a sample pack if you haven't already.
Thanks Kherg...we're also confident at AEN that we've got a VERY unique product with PreSurge with numerous ingredients that have never been used in a pre-workout product. Took a while for the formulation and release to be complete, but we feel the product speaks for itself :cool:
daranibar
12-31-2008, 12:35 AM
I've tried NO-xplode, Superpump 250, Nitro fire, and NO shotgun...
I'm sticking with Superpump 250. I feel focused and like i can lift for hours on this stuff.
NO-xplode worked good, but made me too jittery.
Nitro fire is was decent, but didn't work anymore after the first week.
NO shotgun (that i bought last week) made me feel queasy inside after 30 minutes. If i didn't feel like that while working out i'd love it. It contains a lot of quality ingredients. I'm selling the rest of it. (A little more than half a tub. I can send pics)
BOOSTEDDUDE
12-31-2008, 02:59 PM
I don't think anyone will buy a half used tube, unless it's a friend or relative of yours or something, lol. Too many risk, plus by the time the shipping is paid, they could have bought a whole bottle. ;-/
Yeah, I probably wouldn't buy any opened tubs myself. However, I did end up selling an open tub of WF on ebay a few months back and it sold for $10 or something.
kgochenour
01-01-2009, 06:27 PM
I really enjoy the White Flood (taken with the Green Mag about 45 min before a workout).
On a side note: How long should I stay on the WF/GM stack before cycling off of it and how long should the off cycle be?
Matt999
01-02-2009, 01:27 PM
I just picked some up today..
Did you take just one serving before workout or did you space them throughout the day?
I currently take White Flood before my workout so I think doing a full serving of the Hemodraulix at the same time would be overkill.
My thinking was that by spacing it out in smaller doses throughout the day I'll possibly feel a pump all day.
I take one serving approximately 30 minutes before my workouts. The label indicates a serving is 6 capsules but I take 8 (7 days/week). I've never spaced them throughout the day. If you do/are doing that, let me know what kind of results you're seeing.
thelostfew
01-02-2009, 02:29 PM
I think no explode is the best fast recovery better pumps better gains and more energy and longer workouts..by far the best.
CONTROLLED LABS
01-02-2009, 05:05 PM
I really enjoy the White Flood (taken with the Green Mag about 45 min before a workout).
On a side note: How long should I stay on the WF/GM stack before cycling off of it and how long should the off cycle be?
awesome to hear. no need to cycle green magnitude. white flood should be cycled off for 2 weeks after each tub
King Jug
01-03-2009, 11:34 AM
glad to hear you are loving white flood. have you gotten the opportunity to try the new white flood tablets yet?
Yeah the tablets are just as good, but I prefer the powder.
Alphamale0
01-03-2009, 11:45 AM
I have tried NO xplode and am now taking Superpump 250 and superpump 250 is better by far. And I dont have to poop after taking it, like I did with xplode
hammercurl
01-03-2009, 12:09 PM
has anyone here tryed what i did,i looked at the ingredients of animal pump and brought the ingredients as close as i could to animal pump individually in bulk it cost me around 60gbp and istead of it being propriety mix i can jus take a gram of each and i ordered 100grams of each ingredient so it las 100 days bargain
MaqAtaq
01-03-2009, 12:12 PM
I really liked results I got from Superpump 250. What I really hated (and the reason I stopped taking it) was that 20minutes after I took it I'd have to haul ass to the crapper where my ass would violently get rid of what felt like naplm. It was like ****ting flaming pudding. **** that. It give really good rsults though.
NOXplode doesn't give AS good of results but it performs and does not leave your butthole crying.
*edit* read previous posts LOL at how everyone reacts violently to either Superpump r NO Xplode, but not both of em. Guess you should just experiment ad see which one makes your ass explode and catch on fire
123412356413215
01-03-2009, 03:04 PM
I'm just about to run out of my White Blood caps... After reading through most of this thread it appears there are a few main contenders:
SuperPump250, NoXplode, Animal Pump and White Flood
Anyone care to recommend one over the other? I'm looking for a great pump, and a good amount of NO per serve (rather than heaps of fillers)
brous47
01-03-2009, 04:17 PM
I have only tried NO Xplode and NaNO Vapor, but NaNO Vapor is a sweet deal. I get the extra pumps in my workout, put I dont get all hyper and jittery. I dont get more energy from it, but I definitely get alot more reps, which is all I want anyways. from workin at GNC, the ones I have heard the best comments about are superpump, NO2 black, and NaNO vapor
BOOSTEDDUDE
01-03-2009, 04:28 PM
I haven't tried super-dump 250 because of that reason. I don't want to end up on the crapper after gulping this stuff down. One of the Gaspri reps was supposed to send me a sample but I never got it. When I'm done with the rest of my No_Xplode and Black Powder I'm going to change to Myogenix Hyper Shock. They sent me two samples and both times I hit the gym hard with intense focus and energy. What's funny is it gave me that Buzz that I used to get when I first started NO Products in July of 07 with No_Xplode. WoW, Good stuff. For the reps who think sending out samples is a waste of time your wrong! The samples that I rcvd from companies sure help the purchasing decision and give a good reason to try something new. So, props to Myogenix, Controlled Labs and ON for hooking me up!
CONTROLLED LABS
01-03-2009, 05:01 PM
Yeah the tablets are just as good, but I prefer the powder.
cool, thanks for your feedback. was there any difference in onset of effects/timing you noticed?
ortorc
01-03-2009, 06:40 PM
has anyone tried the MAP Altered state? I personally use it and find it to be an awesome N O. my pumps are huge and the mental affect i get from it is crazy. literally feel like i'm on a very controlled crack uptake with tons of energy and amazing focus
ossizen
01-03-2009, 07:27 PM
I tried my NO shotgun tonight and I was on fire. I could feel the full effect more tonight than when I got the cold earlier this week.
RandallH19891
01-03-2009, 07:52 PM
I've tried:
NO Plasmacore
Superpump250
White Flood
Plasmajet
Plasmajet is my favorite. Gives me huge veins and allows me to take a stim. of my choice.
labradarep
01-03-2009, 08:40 PM
ive only used one and for the first time today. awesome.
supercharge xtreme no.
cut my usual hour workout to 45 mins. more intense. less rest between sets. concentration.
worked well for first time..time will tell overall
Let us know how up coming workouts & using Labrada's SuperCharge! Xtreme work for you.
Enjoy the Journey!
BBingGuru
01-04-2009, 02:16 PM
I really enjoy MRI's Black Powder. I haven't quite got through a full tub yet but I love the pump I get in the gym. Also, it is the best for your buck. It lasts your for about a month and a half (Depending on how many days/week you train). You only have to take 1 scoop 0-30 mins before workout (preferably on an empty stomach) and it is not to be taken on non-workout days. a Serving is 1 scoop and there is 40 servings per container. Go try it out if your looking for a new NO product:)
hickpuff
01-04-2009, 02:32 PM
I really enjoy MRI's Black Powder. I haven't quite got through a full tub yet but I love the pump I get in the gym. Also, it is the best for your buck. It lasts your for about a month and a half (Depending on how many days/week you train). You only have to take 1 scoop 0-30 mins before workout (preferably on an empty stomach) and it is not to be taken on non-workout days. a Serving is 1 scoop and there is 40 servings per container. Go try it out if your looking for a new NO product:)
I totally agree. Didn't think the price was too outrageous and I"ve been happy with the focus I've gotten from it so far.
Davic
01-04-2009, 02:54 PM
Definitely had the best experience and consistent results with this product. Sizeon is rad too. Superpump 250 keeps working even 2 years after I've been supplementing, with the same dosage. Great product, at massnutirtion.com you can get it for $30.95.
Davic
01-04-2009, 02:56 PM
My workout partner just started taking this (black powder) as I've been recommending him to take a NO supplement, he has definitely been getting straonger with his explosiveness on heavy weights and his overall rep endurance, I have not tried this product but I can attest to his results.
getitupordie
01-04-2009, 06:03 PM
I have taken White Flood, No-XPLODE and NO-Shotgun at different times in the past year, and NO shotgun to me does absolutely nothing, and the taste of the Fruit Punch flavor is horrible. I can barely stomach to take it, and I feel no extra pump at all from it. I'm not bashing the product, but just sharing my experiences with it.
ScOpEy
01-04-2009, 07:45 PM
Hey guys, I've never bought a Controlled Labs product but I'd just like to say that I think it's awesome how you guys are always in the threads taking note of every ones feedback and posting in the threads. I've been hearing nothing but good things about Controlled Labs and I'm currently looking into purchasing the Purple Wrath/White Flood/ Green Mag Stack.
123412356413215
01-04-2009, 10:13 PM
That's because it used to contain too much magnesium.....which they fixed.
Weird.....who would have thought you were 18.
can anyone confirm that SP250 has been fixed? I'm wanting to place an order for a good NO product.. SP250 gets great reviews except for the 'superdump' comments..
Splitting_Heads
01-04-2009, 10:29 PM
when you say currently how long do you mean by that?
just a few days or are you a couple weeks in?
I am contemplating getting that supp. would appreciate a little more detail if you have noticed any effects -or none for that matter.
Cheers
I was using nitrix for a few months and honesly didn't notice a thing. I still have some left so I'm thinking about giving it another shot eventually... I have a hunch it was because I was taking too much glutamine. The nitrix bottle says not to take glutamine with nitrix...
I'm interested to hear if it works for you if you decide to try it.
Splitting_Heads
01-04-2009, 10:31 PM
the best NO out there is hands down: SuperPump 250. This stuff is like a miracle. Strength and size sky rocket after every use and workout. I compared it to all other NO out there as well. I read alot about all of them and none seem capable of SuperPump 250 results.
sweet! did you ever try NO Xplode or Nitrix? how much bigger did you get using superpump?
ossizen
01-04-2009, 10:56 PM
So far, VPX NO Shotgun is the bomb! I am having better workouts, and the pumps are starting to get crazy. :)
Splitting_Heads
01-04-2009, 11:49 PM
Why is it most of the time i see some1 talking about Superpump250 in this thread saying.....OH I PUT ON 10 POUNDS on my bench in just 2 days of using it.................. they all have under 10 posts.........there are much cheaper and more effective products on the market................
hmm yeah. what products do you recommend?
Splitting_Heads
01-04-2009, 11:56 PM
Ignoring the powders like No xplode I don't understand how they are differnt. THey all want you taking servings of 3 grams of AAKG. Unless there is a good reason I say get the cheapest you can from a brand you trust.
As for Noxplode...it's just too freaking expensive. I don't like that it's full of caffine. It's not enough AAKG, you'd need to sup more unless you JUST want a pump.
yeah, interesting point. what do you recomend?
Splitting_Heads
01-05-2009, 12:04 AM
I've been cycling NO Xplode for about a year now and I like it but I recently got my hands on some NO Overdrive and it is crazy! Doesn't have the same energy effect as NO Xplode but the pumps and perceived strength increase is incredible!
Anybody else use this product? And know of you can take the supps together? The Overdrive bottle says take twice a day... any thoughts?
Splitting_Heads
01-05-2009, 12:07 AM
yeah! good stuff, not great. didn't feel a whole lot.
elicapel82
01-05-2009, 11:40 AM
After trying NOxplode, Nano Vapor, SP250...Hands down, White Flood does it for me! Extreme Focus and energy. I have put more weight up in the last 2 months of using it then I have in 4 months of using something else.
I like to add Purple Wrath during the workout for the one of the best stacks available. It's hard leaving the gym...
slowdubbin68
01-05-2009, 03:38 PM
got my free samples of white flood, green mag, and purple wrath, stacked it and went to the gym and ive never felt so good in the gym. my mind was totally in it for the first time in a long time. i didnt wanna leave either but the gym was packed at 6 pm. ima go order some white flood right now and give it 2 thumbs up.
phftrainer05
01-05-2009, 05:52 PM
Alright, first of all I've been in the supplement business for a little over 2 years so I've seen quite a few products come and go. SuperPump only seems to work for a few ppl and after the first couple days I have a lot of them complaining cuz they're having to take 3 scoops! Anybody whose taking BSN you're wasting your money! Seriously that brand, especially N.O explode, is just horrible. They've been in a ton of lawsuits because they like to lie about what kind of ingredients they put in their products, ex. N.O. explode. They also have started to manufacture all their products in China! Who the else wants to order supplements that aren't even made in our own country! If I had to recommend one supplement it would be ****'s WTF Pump'd...the main ingredient is glycerol...ton of energy and a HUGE pump as long as you intake a lot of water, which you should anyways...
Inspired916
01-05-2009, 06:20 PM
ive taken a lot of different N.O's testing them out and what not but nothing really comes close to N.O shotgun... and i mean N.O shotgun version 1 not V3 .. V3 sucks imo, hardly comes close to V1 in potency. best thing to do is cycle on for 1 whole tub then cycle off for about a month and back on. im glad i got the last V1 tub at vitamin shoppe the other day and the mental acuity and energy/vascularity is insane. i think i have found my #1 product.
It also has protein and BCAAs inside that pushes you even harder.its a all-in-one N.O, thats why i keep going back to it. and it saves me from buying the stacks of other brands.
-My 2cents :D
Cr4zYH3aD
01-05-2009, 10:14 PM
Ragnarok, NaNO Vapor, Labrada Supercharge, Animal Pump, Storm
mrdunnam
01-05-2009, 10:40 PM
I've tried several n.o. products over the past year. Among what I've tried, the great title would go to Gaspari's SuperPump. However, the BEST product I've tried would have to be what I'm taking now...Dymatize Xpand
It's got the same intensity as SuperPump, but for me...not the jittery effect.
My personal favorite, but I am still willing to experiment with others if anyone has something better to suggest!
Adjusting
01-06-2009, 08:27 AM
I've tried several n.o. products over the past year. Among what I've tried, the great title would go to Gaspari's SuperPump. However, the BEST product I've tried would have to be what I'm taking now...Dymatize Xpand
It's got the same intensity as SuperPump, but for me...not the jittery effect.
My personal favorite, but I am still willing to experiment with others if anyone has something better to suggest!
Look for something with GlycoCarn in it. It increases NOS in humans from oral dosing. Combining that with anti-oxidants preserves the eNOS enzyme keeping nitric oxide levels high. NO always works better when you take it with anti-oxidants ;)
Peter LeDrew
01-06-2009, 09:06 AM
Look for something with GlycoCarn in it. It increases NOS in humans from oral dosing. Combining that with anti-oxidants preserves the eNOS enzyme keeping nitric oxide levels high. NO always works better when you take it with anti-oxidants ;)
Good post... so you mean something like PreSurge which has those proven ingredients in it, may possibly give me da pump?
Adjusting
01-06-2009, 09:13 AM
Good post... so you mean something like PreSurge which has those proven ingredients in it, may possibly give me da pump?
Guaranteed ;)
Just wait until GLycoCarn hits it big in other NO formulas.
thelostfew
01-06-2009, 11:32 AM
I got a question is it okay just to take cellmass without no-explode I'm clued?
scarletngrey
01-06-2009, 01:44 PM
Just tried my sample of White Flood.
Wow is all I can say.
I have never tried a product like this before, so I am inexperienced and might have no clue what I am talking about.
But I feel a huge difference. After working out harder than I ever have before, I feel like I can do the entire workout again and its hard to even stay still. I still have the tingling sensation.
Wow.
Adjusting
01-06-2009, 01:59 PM
I got a question is it okay just to take cellmass without no-explode I'm clued?
Yes, it ok.
onaquest
01-06-2009, 03:19 PM
Im taking white blood stacked with Green Mag and I like it. I notice myself getting immune to it pretty quick though. Doesnt hit me as hard.
Im still getting some good pumps and focus when hitting the weights and the white blood is great for recovery when u take it before sleeping (not to mention to deepest sleeps ever) After a hard work out, it used to take me 2 - 3 days to fully recover. Now it takes me 1 - 2 days max. Sometimes I wake up the next morning feeling no soreness after a hard workout.
WB is pretty good for increasing libido too.
BOOSTEDDUDE
01-06-2009, 06:03 PM
Alright, first of all I've been in the supplement business for a little over 2 years so I've seen quite a few products come and go. SuperPump only seems to work for a few ppl and after the first couple days I have a lot of them complaining cuz they're having to take 3 scoops! Anybody whose taking BSN you're wasting your money! Seriously that brand, especially N.O explode, is just horrible. They've been in a ton of lawsuits because they like to lie about what kind of ingredients they put in their products, ex. N.O. explode. They also have started to manufacture all their products in China! Who the else wants to order supplements that aren't even made in our own country! If I had to recommend one supplement it would be ****'s WTF Pump'd...the main ingredient is glycerol...ton of energy and a HUGE pump as long as you intake a lot of water, which you should anyways...
Hey now, I happen to really like NO-Xplode, Cellmass and Syntha-6. Any evidence of BSN being made in China? I don't recall seeing this on the bottle but could have missed it. This would be enough of a reason for me to stop using their products.
Fitzwell
01-06-2009, 06:15 PM
I think No xplode and nitrix are an absolute waste of time and money. After cycling through thousands of reviews and ingredients it seems like the concensus is:
-Superpump 250
-White Flood
Looing to try superpump with sizeon and myofusion here in a couple of weeks
pwsh8
01-06-2009, 06:22 PM
What I got: Green Mag, White Flood, and a bucket of Smartgainer.
This is my first time taking the Green Mag and White flood. I took them both about 30 mins before my workout last night. Either the combination of them or one of them ( the WF or GM) bloated my stomach pretty bad. I had some insane focus in the gym and the energy was decent. Although, if it continues to cause my stomach discomfort, I will look into other products.
whoismikeford
01-06-2009, 07:43 PM
Universals animal pump, ive gone through half a tub already, and every time i get the focus, endurance, and PUMP, the pump is rediculous, it surpasses in my opinion from experience the following products in no specific order
nano vapor, n.o-xplode, shotgun v.3, sp250, nitrix, nanox9 hardcore, white flood, max muscles full blown extreme-not a bad product, just not on the same level
of course if ur not a fan of pills, this product isnt for you, i also like that if i hit the gym late, i can just take out the red stimulant pill and it wont affect sleeping but im still a freak bangin out sets like its my job<---- lol
TheFugitive
01-06-2009, 08:01 PM
Try Dark Rage by MHP, its a monster in a bottle.
pokerdude069
01-06-2009, 09:04 PM
how much would a tub of pw, wf, and gm cost? are those the right combos for one workout?? im think im gonna buy it but i want to use the right combo.
Derly
01-06-2009, 10:42 PM
how much would a tub of pw, wf, and gm cost? are those the right combos for one workout?? im think im gonna buy it but i want to use the right combo.
WF mixed with GM - preworkout
PW - postworkout
Whey - post workout
Fitzwell
01-06-2009, 10:45 PM
Gah, I am having absolutely the worst time deciding between animal pump, SP250, or White Flood. They all seem legit
Splitting_Heads
01-06-2009, 11:24 PM
I got a question is it okay just to take cellmass without no-explode I'm clued?
yes definitely.
jaycphipps
01-06-2009, 11:46 PM
i like that BSN NO EXPLODE. i get great pumps with it. i take fruit punch with me during my workout. i focus alot better. its good stuff.
BOOSTEDDUDE
01-07-2009, 12:31 AM
I don't know what this guy was talking about! I checked all my tubs of Syntha-6 and No-Xplode with AVPT formula and none of them say made in china. They say Made in USA! Boca Raton, FL. BSN reps really need to come and represent themselves around here. I know most people hate BSN but lets not spread BS.h
Downunder Gaz
01-07-2009, 12:32 AM
White flood makes me feel sick, sp250 is definately my favourite
GAZ
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pokerdude069
01-07-2009, 09:54 AM
WF mixed with GM - preworkout
PW - postworkout
Whey - post workout
i thought PW was intra workout, not postworkout?? am i wrong here? Do i take WF, GM PRE AND PW DURING?
CONTROLLED LABS
01-07-2009, 10:28 AM
Hey guys, I've never bought a Controlled Labs product but I'd just like to say that I think it's awesome how you guys are always in the threads taking note of every ones feedback and posting in the threads. I've been hearing nothing but good things about Controlled Labs and I'm currently looking into purchasing the Purple Wrath/White Flood/ Green Mag Stack. glad we could help, feedback is important to us and that is why we comb the boards to see what actual users are saying. we use that info to make our products even better :)
After trying NOxplode, Nano Vapor, SP250...Hands down, White Flood does it for me! Extreme Focus and energy. I have put more weight up in the last 2 months of using it then I have in 4 months of using something else.
I like to add Purple Wrath during the workout for the one of the best stacks available. It's hard leaving the gym...
got my free samples of white flood, green mag, and purple wrath, stacked it and went to the gym and ive never felt so good in the gym. my mind was totally in it for the first time in a long time. i didnt wanna leave either but the gym was packed at 6 pm. ima go order some white flood right now and give it 2 thumbs up.
awesome, glad to hear it guys
Just tried my sample of White Flood.
Wow is all I can say.
I have never tried a product like this before, so I am inexperienced and might have no clue what I am talking about.
But I feel a huge difference. After working out harder than I ever have before, I feel like I can do the entire workout again and its hard to even stay still. I still have the tingling sensation.
Wow.
will you be going with the powder or tablets?
Im taking white blood stacked with Green Mag and I like it. I notice myself getting immune to it pretty quick though. Doesnt hit me as hard.
Im still getting some good pumps and focus when hitting the weights and the white blood is great for recovery when u take it before sleeping (not to mention to deepest sleeps ever) After a hard work out, it used to take me 2 - 3 days to fully recover. Now it takes me 1 - 2 days max. Sometimes I wake up the next morning feeling no soreness after a hard workout.
WB is pretty good for increasing libido too.
absolutely, the night dose is amazing.
What I got: Green Mag, White Flood, and a bucket of Smartgainer.
This is my first time taking the Green Mag and White flood. I took them both about 30 mins before my workout last night. Either the combination of them or one of them ( the WF or GM) bloated my stomach pretty bad. I had some insane focus in the gym and the energy was decent. Although, if it continues to cause my stomach discomfort, I will look into other products.
try taking them with a small carb meal like a granola bar or rice cake and any discomfort should dissipate
i thought PW was intra workout, not postworkout?? am i wrong here? Do i take WF, GM PRE AND PW DURING? yes, pw is best intraworkout
pmartel
01-07-2009, 10:36 AM
I like NO Explode, that said I got some White Flood capsules & took 4 of the 8 & found White Flood to be more subtle.
But yes, NO's do work, BUT USE AS DIRECTED!!
BIG OGER
01-07-2009, 12:51 PM
same here best I have had so far.
AwfullyAmazing
01-07-2009, 01:05 PM
Anyone know any well-working, cheap products?
EJ8tunerman
01-07-2009, 01:06 PM
I've been using a scoop of NO-xplode for the past month and just recieved my greenMAG from bb.com along with a sample of white flood. Took all 8 tablets and while it did give me a pump and energy, I feel NO-xplode does offer ME more during the workout.
tj_whit
01-07-2009, 03:13 PM
Gah, I am having absolutely the worst time deciding between animal pump, SP250, or White Flood. They all seem legit
Superpump will give ya a great pump and energy, but if you're like me (or most SP users) You'll spend half your workout emptying your bowels. White Flood I wasn't impressed with whatsoever. Animal Pump is what I've been using for a while now, blew me away when I first used it. Sick pump, sick energy, fairly good focus, no poops. Also the pill form has no taste so, yay!
Cheers.
freddddy
01-08-2009, 01:00 AM
I start to take White Flood in monday, and today was my second serving. I never tried NO products before, but i love White Flood.
WF gives me very good energy, focus and today's workout a good pumps. I was in very good mood around 4 or 5 hours after i take it ( i like this very much).
Hope i feel the positive effects and after 2-3 weeks with WF
Dirtyfish11
01-08-2009, 02:08 AM
SuperPump 250 ALL THE WAY
musclehead80
01-08-2009, 02:22 AM
if you're taking an NO supplement(hemodilator), then i would also suggest getting a vasodialator supp also. being that the NO promotes more red blood cells to be pushed into the muscles, but if the road getting there isn't big enough then you're not getting the full potential of the NO. and for those who say they get better results from creatine....most NO's have a form of creatine in them. If you're gonna take supps read what they actually do and what else you would have to do to reap all the benefits. most supps made today are made to be stacked with the same brand's other products. so you might as well save your money and buy the whole shelf...ha
Derly
01-08-2009, 02:36 AM
I start to take White Flood in monday, and today was my second serving. I never tried NO products before, but i love White Flood.
WF gives me very good energy, focus and today's workout a good pumps. I was in very good mood around 4 or 5 hours after i take it ( i like this very much).
Hope i feel the positive effects and after 2-3 weeks with WF
Try taking it less often than every workout. That'll help you against building a tolerance. Also experiment with lower doses, and see if you can get enough results that way. This will not only help the WF last longer, but also keep you from building a tolerance. Because once you have a tolerance you use more anyways, and it runs out even faster.
After about a month you should cycle off it anyways.
khergan
01-08-2009, 03:36 AM
if you're taking an NO supplement(hemodilator), then i would also suggest getting a vasodialator supp also. being that the NO promotes more red blood cells to be pushed into the muscles, but if the road getting there isn't big enough then you're not getting the full potential of the NO. and for those who say they get better results from creatine....most NO's have a form of creatine in them. If you're gonna take supps read what they actually do and what else you would have to do to reap all the benefits. most supps made today are made to be stacked with the same brand's other products. so you might as well save your money and buy the whole shelf...ha
Idiot post.
N.O. products all have the same goal - to dialate blood vessels. The majority of them contain some form of Arginine, which promotes Nitric Oxide production in the body, resulting in better pumps. There are also various other methods of inducing a better pump that have a synergistic effect.
Most of the products talked about in this thread are great. N.O. supplements aren't magic though; their main goal is to increase workout intensity. Many do contain creatine, but not all.
So when you're looking for one, just consider:
1) Price
2) Efficacy (looking through the boards and seeing what's popular generally works)
3) Taste, because different flavors are sometimes deciding factors.
4) Ingredient profile. To some people, a complete product including creatine is a good value because you then don't have to additionally supplement with creatine. Presurge and NO Shotgun are good examples of supplements that have the "all in one" philosophy.
The best idea is trying one out and getting all the samples from the other guys from bb.com and then seeing which you like best. Some NO products work great for some and don't work at all for others, its all just about comparing and seeing what works for you.
denverizzles
01-08-2009, 06:11 AM
Starting Monday im going to try out Superpump 250 and a plamsajet stack! i'll make a log to give people an idea of how it will affect people getting back into their original shape!
I've read some of the reviews for both of these products and it seems it would be an awesome N.O stack.
Ghostspike0
01-08-2009, 10:59 AM
First time i've tried superpump 250, I threw up after the gym, did'nt feel any different but that could be due to me sleeping alot less
ill give it another try though, if not im switching N.O Xplode or WF
simpleguy
01-08-2009, 11:26 AM
I keep hearing about SP250 causing bowel problems but it def wasn't the case for me... for me the 'best' pre w/o supp I've taken for dumps is no-explode... I'm seriously thinking of giving it a shot if I ever have regularity problems, this is guaranteed to get you going lol
AWD_TURBO
01-08-2009, 11:33 AM
I never had bowel problems with superpump either. I prefere superpump over no xplode I feel I get a greater pump. Im currently taking PlasmaJet and Im really liking that as well.
PollyOzze
01-08-2009, 12:42 PM
I agree, super pump 250 is a miracle... The first time I took this product I was a bit nervous, after about 10 minutes or so I could feel it workin. I was pumped up and couldn't wait to get to the gym. When I got there I was pumped and ready (like never before) I received great pumps.
I did notice a couple small side effects. I was a little light headed after a set, slight headaches later that night.... Anyone else notice this????
Other than that, the results outweigh the side effects.
i also noticed similar side effects particularly the headaches at night time. i never really got the pump some are talking about. NO Explode definately works however you need to have a good break off it from time to time otherwise your body will adapt. i'm currently using Deca Stack & have found this to give me a better focus than NO Explode...the pumps are awsome as well.
V-Robb
01-08-2009, 01:13 PM
I find that for me SP250 and Plasma Jet are a great pre-workout combo. I did get a slight headache the first time I tried it, but now it's not an issue and I actually expected it somewhat.
I wouldn't think of working out without SP250 anymore, that's for sure!
joe-yamma
01-08-2009, 01:32 PM
SP250 works fine for me.
for a cheaper alternative, Shock Therapy works great and is an excellent value (price per serving).
Animal Pump is probably my favorite pre-wo supp.
Plasmajet is simply amazing for pumps that last several days 9not just during your workout)
i think the perfect combo is Plasmajet (taken several hours pre-wo) and Animal Pump pre-wo.
j0hn9999
01-08-2009, 04:21 PM
white flood tablets
I started taking these about 2~3 weeks ago and started tapering up until I got up to a full dosage.
wow.
not a bs product, not filler. powered through the workout like I couldn't believe.
absolutely amazing.
felt body fatigue but still had energy and focus to keep going.
just a little question: How long (typically) does it take for ones bowels/colon to adjust to this dosage and are my results typical?
BTW wouldn't recommend starting workout with squats until your body has adjusted to 'effects'.
great product
Thinny
01-08-2009, 06:16 PM
So it goes a little something like this:
I absolutely love what SuperPump250 does for me. Sick pump, great focus. Took a week and a half off and still felt good during my workouts. Of course, waterfalls from my *******. On one scoop, no less. I did it on an empty stomach and I did the whole meal 90 mins before taking it thing, too. Still get poopsies.
Luckily, I got myself some White Flood in tablet form.
Now, WF made me **** before when I took it in the powder form. I haven't taken it in the tablet form yet. I can't imagine how much different this should be. I'm gonna take 4 today with a granola bar and work my way up. I just hate having that anxiety attack in the car on my way/coming back from the gym of thinking "I'M GONNA **** MY PANTS!!!!!!!"
scarletngrey
01-08-2009, 06:19 PM
will you be going with the powder or tablets?
Not sure yet. I used the sample which was tablets, but I am leaning forward to ordering the powder, how is the taste generally regarded?
Only worry though is it got me so pumped my heart was racing and I had to chill for a little bit and calm down.
enswalters
01-08-2009, 08:59 PM
I tried NO-xplode for 2 weeks. Ok, but not great. I tried out a few free samples of Superpump250 and it was definitely better, although I did suffer major bowel movements within 15 minutes of taking it. Not a huge issue for me though, as I work out at home most of the time.
Best product I've taken though has been the white flood, green mag, purple wrath combo. Good pump, good recovery, not too expensive. You can get a free sample when you place an order at bb, so there's no reason not to give it a try. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the flavors, but the price and results make it the best value out there.
freddddy
01-09-2009, 08:05 AM
BTW wouldn't recommend starting workout with squats until your body has adjusted to 'effects'.
I can't agree with you.
Start to take WF this week. Today my workout was legs and shoulders. I take WF powder 30-40 min pre. Start with squats (didn't train legs 2 weeks, and not try squats for 4 weeks) and the squats was amazing.
Start only with barbel, then
1x12 110lbs
1x10 130lbs
1x10 150lbs
1x10 175lbs
1x5 200lbs
I never felt before so much energy for squats, usually training with 15% less weights and i hate to make squats. But that was before White flood
WF is GREAT!!!!
baadd1
01-09-2009, 03:40 PM
BSN NO gives me nausea...looking to try something different.
hypertrophy101
01-09-2009, 04:00 PM
starting monday i'm going to stack SP250 with green mag. I've been reading alot on here and I was curious as to how bad the super dumps are from SP250. I mean am I going to be crapping every 5 mins? From what i've read it doesnt sound to fun lol.
ok I have been trying a number of the "more popular" products out and figured I would share with you all my experiences. In total I have tried four different products and have ranked them below between best (1.) and worst (4.) Also below I have written the differences between the four that I noticed.
1. White Flood
2. SP250
3. NO Xplode
4. Nano Vapor
This rating is mostly based on the energy given by each product and somewhat on the level of pump as none of these really gave me the pump i was looking for/expected, though out of all of these white flood seemed to give me the best pump. For energy all of these do their job and definately get you going and all taste great, but how each makes you feel, the amount used to get desired energy levels, and how long each took to start feeling the effects of and how long each lasted varied between product.
1. White Flood- kicks in very quickly (5-10 min), the feeling is great as it kind of gives you a tingling sensation and a big boosts of energy which seems to be mostly felt during lifts in your body more so then your head allowing for better concentration (hard to explain but try it out and you know what I am talking about). To me it almost feels like there is another person in you helping with your lifts (its crazy). The energy boost lasts for pretty much the entire workout. The effects seems to lessen toward the end of the workout, but it may be that I was getting use to it during the workout. Some people talk say that they crash about half way through their workout, but I haven't noticed this. Also the amount used is fairly low, as I use only a max of 2 scoops.
2. SP250-took awhile to kick in (30-40 min.) and when it did the energy boost was descent but not overwhelming as the boost helped increase my lifting intensity but not nearly as much as White Flood. I could feel it somewhat in my head as well as body. I would usually take 2-3 scoops. The effects lasted throughout the workout and for a little while after.
3. NO-xplode- it has been a couple years since i took this so what i remember of it is a little hazey, but what i remember about this is that i didn't care much for it and actually gave it away. This also took awhile to kick in (~40 min) and the energy level was pretty good and lasted almost all the way through my lifts). I was taking 2 scoops for this. I probably would say this and SP250 are close to each other, but the price of NO-xplode makes it less desirable in my eyes.
4. NanoVapor- i know a number of people like this, but for me it was too much uncontrolled energy. i needed to take 2-3 scoops (these scoops are much bigger then the others as well) to get the desired effect. The energy boost was fairly quick (~15 min) and lasted well beyond the 1 hour lift. though i found myself groggy for the remainder of the day when it finally faded away. my biggest problem was the "uncontrolled" energy. when taking this i felt that the energy was felt mostly in my head which didn't allow me to focus much nor did it help that much with lifts. basically it felt as the world was all fuzzy. the taste (berry blue, i think) was also probably the worst of these four.
Well hopefully this will help people trying to make their mind-up about what to get in the future. The effects of these are based on my experiences alone rather then from what others have said. I know the whole feeling the energy boost in your body vs head concept wasn't explained too well, but for those that have tried them (especially nano and white flood) you probably know what i'm talking about. Hope this helps.
Josh153
01-09-2009, 09:37 PM
Nitrix tabs are amazing, your pumped all day long and you can get a 90 day supply for 55 bucks at foxsupplements.com
premierium
01-09-2009, 11:20 PM
I'm going to have to go with MRI Black Powder.
Unreal focus and energy, I feel like I could run across the country and back.
Tried the White Flood tablets and honestly did not feel a thing which I found odd.
And NOXplode was great the first few times I used it, but than it didn't do a thing for me.
Thinny
01-10-2009, 06:04 AM
Ok, update: I took 4 tabs of WF with a granola bar and still got pre-workout poops and post-workout poops. Then post-post workout poops.
Any other ideas, CL?
saints-fan
01-10-2009, 06:39 AM
Basically all preworkout supps make u make a little poopoo here and there.
Thinny
01-10-2009, 06:46 AM
Funnily enough, N.O-Xplode never did that to me. But I stopped taking that piece of crap because it made me way too anxious. I love me some WF but I don't wanna **** my pants in the car on the way to/coming back from the gym.
souljahimmortal
01-10-2009, 08:03 AM
This has to be the best Creatine/NO mix out there. I've had great workouts using this product.
x Idealist x
01-10-2009, 08:43 AM
ok I have been trying a number of the "more popular" products out and figured I would share with you all my experiences. In total I have tried four different products and have ranked them below between best (1.) and worst (4.) Also below I have written the differences between the four that I noticed.
1. White Flood
2. SP250
3. NO Xplode
4. Nano Vapor
This rating is mostly based on the energy given by each product and somewhat on the level of pump as none of these really gave me the pump i was looking for/expected, though out of all of these white flood seemed to give me the best pump. For energy all of these do their job and definately get you going and all taste great, but how each makes you feel, the amount used to get desired energy levels, and how long each took to start feeling the effects of and how long each lasted varied between product.
1. White Flood- kicks in very quickly (5-10 min), the feeling is great as it kind of gives you a tingling sensation and a big boosts of energy which seems to be mostly felt during lifts in your body more so then your head allowing for better concentration (hard to explain but try it out and you know what I am talking about). To me it almost feels like there is another person in you helping with your lifts (its crazy). The energy boost lasts for pretty much the entire workout. The effects seems to lessen toward the end of the workout, but it may be that I was getting use to it during the workout. Some people talk say that they crash about half way through their workout, but I haven't noticed this. Also the amount used is fairly low, as I use only a max of 2 scoops.
2. SP250-took awhile to kick in (30-40 min.) and when it did the energy boost was descent but not overwhelming as the boost helped increase my lifting intensity but not nearly as much as White Flood. I could feel it somewhat in my head as well as body. I would usually take 2-3 scoops. The effects lasted throughout the workout and for a little while after.
3. NO-xplode- it has been a couple years since i took this so what i remember of it is a little hazey, but what i remember about this is that i didn't care much for it and actually gave it away. This also took awhile to kick in (~40 min) and the energy level was pretty good and lasted almost all the way through my lifts). I was taking 2 scoops for this. I probably would say this and SP250 are close to each other, but the price of NO-xplode makes it less desirable in my eyes.
4. NanoVapor- i know a number of people like this, but for me it was too much uncontrolled energy. i needed to take 2-3 scoops (these scoops are much bigger then the others as well) to get the desired effect. The energy boost was fairly quick (~15 min) and lasted well beyond the 1 hour lift. though i found myself groggy for the remainder of the day when it finally faded away. my biggest problem was the "uncontrolled" energy. when taking this i felt that the energy was felt mostly in my head which didn't allow me to focus much nor did it help that much with lifts. basically it felt as the world was all fuzzy. the taste (berry blue, i think) was also probably the worst of these four.
Well hopefully this will help people trying to make their mind-up about what to get in the future. The effects of these are based on my experiences alone rather then from what others have said. I know the whole feeling the energy boost in your body vs head concept wasn't explained too well, but for those that have tried them (especially nano and white flood) you probably know what i'm talking about. Hope this helps.
Great Info. I use NO-explode and I really love it but I want to try out White Flood next time. Do you Take Creatine along with White Flood before workout because the one difference I have seen is that white flood does not contain it. Also do you have to wait 2 hours after eating to take White Flood?
CONTROLLED LABS
01-10-2009, 11:55 AM
Not sure yet. I used the sample which was tablets, but I am leaning forward to ordering the powder, how is the taste generally regarded?
Only worry though is it got me so pumped my heart was racing and I had to chill for a little bit and calm down.
the taste is great, the effects are the same between them since the formulas are identical
I tried NO-xplode for 2 weeks. Ok, but not great. I tried out a few free samples of Superpump250 and it was definitely better, although I did suffer major bowel movements within 15 minutes of taking it. Not a huge issue for me though, as I work out at home most of the time.
Best product I've taken though has been the white flood, green mag, purple wrath combo. Good pump, good recovery, not too expensive. You can get a free sample when you place an order at bb, so there's no reason not to give it a try. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the flavors, but the price and results make it the best value out there.
I can't agree with you.
Start to take WF this week. Today my workout was legs and shoulders. I take WF powder 30-40 min pre. Start with squats (didn't train legs 2 weeks, and not try squats for 4 weeks) and the squats was amazing.
Start only with barbel, then
1x12 110lbs
1x10 130lbs
1x10 150lbs
1x10 175lbs
1x5 200lbs
I never felt before so much energy for squats, usually training with 15% less weights and i hate to make squats. But that was before White flood
WF is GREAT!!!!
ok I have been trying a number of the "more popular" products out and figured I would share with you all my experiences. In total I have tried four different products and have ranked them below between best (1.) and worst (4.) Also below I have written the differences between the four that I noticed.
1. White Flood
2. SP250
3. NO Xplode
4. Nano Vapor
This rating is mostly based on the energy given by each product and somewhat on the level of pump as none of these really gave me the pump i was looking for/expected, though out of all of these white flood seemed to give me the best pump. For energy all of these do their job and definately get you going and all taste great, but how each makes you feel, the amount used to get desired energy levels, and how long each took to start feeling the effects of and how long each lasted varied between product.
1. White Flood- kicks in very quickly (5-10 min), the feeling is great as it kind of gives you a tingling sensation and a big boosts of energy which seems to be mostly felt during lifts in your body more so then your head allowing for better concentration (hard to explain but try it out and you know what I am talking about). To me it almost feels like there is another person in you helping with your lifts (its crazy). The energy boost lasts for pretty much the entire workout. The effects seems to lessen toward the end of the workout, but it may be that I was getting use to it during the workout. Some people talk say that they crash about half way through their workout, but I haven't noticed this. Also the amount used is fairly low, as I use only a max of 2 scoops.
2. SP250-took awhile to kick in (30-40 min.) and when it did the energy boost was descent but not overwhelming as the boost helped increase my lifting intensity but not nearly as much as White Flood. I could feel it somewhat in my head as well as body. I would usually take 2-3 scoops. The effects lasted throughout the workout and for a little while after.
3. NO-xplode- it has been a couple years since i took this so what i remember of it is a little hazey, but what i remember about this is that i didn't care much for it and actually gave it away. This also took awhile to kick in (~40 min) and the energy level was pretty good and lasted almost all the way through my lifts). I was taking 2 scoops for this. I probably would say this and SP250 are close to each other, but the price of NO-xplode makes it less desirable in my eyes.
4. NanoVapor- i know a number of people like this, but for me it was too much uncontrolled energy. i needed to take 2-3 scoops (these scoops are much bigger then the others as well) to get the desired effect. The energy boost was fairly quick (~15 min) and lasted well beyond the 1 hour lift. though i found myself groggy for the remainder of the day when it finally faded away. my biggest problem was the "uncontrolled" energy. when taking this i felt that the energy was felt mostly in my head which didn't allow me to focus much nor did it help that much with lifts. basically it felt as the world was all fuzzy. the taste (berry blue, i think) was also probably the worst of these four.
Well hopefully this will help people trying to make their mind-up about what to get in the future. The effects of these are based on my experiences alone rather then from what others have said. I know the whole feeling the energy boost in your body vs head concept wasn't explained too well, but for those that have tried them (especially nano and white flood) you probably know what i'm talking about. Hope this helps.
WOW, great feedback guys, thanks for taking the time to post up :)
Ok, update: I took 4 tabs of WF with a granola bar and still got pre-workout poops and post-workout poops. Then post-post workout poops.
Any other ideas, CL?
very odd. what else are you taking?
Great Info. I use NO-explode and I really love it but I want to try out White Flood next time. Do you Take Creatine along with White Flood before workout because the one difference I have seen is that white flood does not contain it. Also do you have to wait 2 hours after eating to take White Flood?
most people stack white flood with green magnitude for their creatine. you dont have to wait, but if you dont the stimulatory effects may take longer to present themselves.
Great Info. I use NO-explode and I really love it but I want to try out White Flood next time. Do you Take Creatine along with White Flood before workout because the one difference I have seen is that white flood does not contain it. Also do you have to wait 2 hours after eating to take White Flood?
I don't really use many supps including creatine, but decided to do a round of the white flood and green mag., though i only just started using the green mag. yesterday so I can't comment on it. As for the timing of the white flood, yes I do wait, but usually just an hour or so after eating. I found if I drank it too close to a meal my stomach would get upset during my lift and I would end up visiting the porcelin god, and if I waited 2+ hours I would be starving during my lifts. Just got to find what works best for you. I don't know if this is a factor, but when I had the stomach problems I was also pounding the drink before my lift, now I just take about 5 min. to slowly sip it and haven't had probs. As a side note I also had stomach probs if I took the SP250 too close to a meal as well.
Thinny
01-10-2009, 04:57 PM
CL: I'm on dat-dere CL stack which includes: GreenMAG, P-Wraath and WF. Went searching through a few threads and saw a few things that may suggest that the magnesium in GreenMAG is the case? Maybe split a scoop pre and post? I also have a meal 2 hours before I lift... or is 2 hours too small of a time to be takin the supps?
vteckiller142
01-10-2009, 08:36 PM
the taste is great, the effects are the same between them since the formulas are identical
WOW, great feedback guys, thanks for taking the time to post up :)
very odd. what else are you taking?
most people stack white flood with green magnitude for their creatine. you dont have to wait, but if you dont the stimulatory effects may take longer to present themselves.
I have a question exactly how are u suppose to take white flood and green mag together, white before and green after or both before thanks
Thinny
01-10-2009, 08:52 PM
I have a question exactly how are u suppose to take white flood and green mag together, white before and green after or both before thanks
Make like a DJ and mix em.
Derly
01-11-2009, 02:23 AM
CL: I'm on dat-dere CL stack which includes: GreenMAG, P-Wraath and WF. Went searching through a few threads and saw a few things that may suggest that the magnesium in GreenMAG is the case? Maybe split a scoop pre and post? I also have a meal 2 hours before I lift... or is 2 hours too small of a time to be takin the supps?
I like one scoop WF mixed with half a scoop GM pre, and then I take the other half of GM after working out.
jab50
01-11-2009, 05:28 AM
I will admit I'm quite new to the BB experience, so please keep that in mind with my comment.
I have tried only one NO product: NO Shotgun.
I bought both fruit punch and black cherry, but I have only tried the fruit punch as this product has lasted me a few months. Before I work out, I take 1/2 to 3/4 of a scoop mixed with water.
When I first tried it, I kind of liked the taste. However, I have grown to really hate it now, and I usually mix it with the minimal amount of water, chug it down with my nose pinched closed, then continue to drink more water (hoping to wash the taste out of my mouth and the bottle). Keep in mind that I really do not like fruit punch flavor to begin with, so my opinion on its taste is quite biased.
Given that I have very little muscle to begin with, I am not sure how much of an effect this product is having on my lifting. I do not lift really heavy weights, and I am unsure if I've ever felt "the pump." I would say not.
I can say that I have tried working out without it, and I definately have less ability to finish harder sets. I do not think this is a plecebo effect either because there is a big difference between my stamina and strength between times I use NO Shotgun and the times I do not.
When I first started on the product, I was using the recommended 1 scoop. However, everytime I had to do something that induced a lot of blood flowing to my head (like inclined crunches and hyper Xtension back exercise), I would feel dizzy. Since decreasing the amount I take each time, I do not get this dizziness any longer.
While I will try some other brands once I get back to America, I can recommend this product as something that does bring on some sort of effect. Sorry that I do not have enough experience to be able to explain exactly what that is.
j0hn9999
01-11-2009, 02:30 PM
I can't agree with you.!
glad you didn't **** yourself.
I'm not saying I don't think WF is great
I love WF
I start every work out with squats
the first time I took wf I pyramided up to squat 275
usually work out with 225 5x5 and wasn't tired after 5th set and went up
just saying personally, for me , my experience was I needed a shower and the back up gym shorts before I could go home.
6 pills works like a charm if I have food in my stomache 1/2 hour ahead.
8 pills on an empty stomach = disaster.
caboosegoboom
01-11-2009, 02:38 PM
gaspari superpump 250! ahh that stuff ready shocks me into a new level of mentality
caddy9268
01-11-2009, 03:58 PM
ok I have been trying a number of the "more popular" products out and figured I would share with you all my experiences. In total I have tried four different products and have ranked them below between best (1.) and worst (4.) Also below I have written the differences between the four that I noticed.
1. White Flood
2. SP250
3. NO Xplode
4. Nano Vapor
This rating is mostly based on the energy given by each product and somewhat on the level of pump as none of these really gave me the pump i was looking for/expected, though out of all of these white flood seemed to give me the best pump. For energy all of these do their job and definately get you going and all taste great, but how each makes you feel, the amount used to get desired energy levels, and how long each took to start feeling the effects of and how long each lasted varied between product.
1. White Flood- kicks in very quickly (5-10 min), the feeling is great as it kind of gives you a tingling sensation and a big boosts of energy which seems to be mostly felt during lifts in your body more so then your head allowing for better concentration (hard to explain but try it out and you know what I am talking about). To me it almost feels like there is another person in you helping with your lifts (its crazy). The energy boost lasts for pretty much the entire workout. The effects seems to lessen toward the end of the workout, but it may be that I was getting use to it during the workout. Some people talk say that they crash about half way through their workout, but I haven't noticed this. Also the amount used is fairly low, as I use only a max of 2 scoops.
2. SP250-took awhile to kick in (30-40 min.) and when it did the energy boost was descent but not overwhelming as the boost helped increase my lifting intensity but not nearly as much as White Flood. I could feel it somewhat in my head as well as body. I would usually take 2-3 scoops. The effects lasted throughout the workout and for a little while after.
3. NO-xplode- it has been a couple years since i took this so what i remember of it is a little hazey, but what i remember about this is that i didn't care much for it and actually gave it away. This also took awhile to kick in (~40 min) and the energy level was pretty good and lasted almost all the way through my lifts). I was taking 2 scoops for this. I probably would say this and SP250 are close to each other, but the price of NO-xplode makes it less desirable in my eyes.
4. NanoVapor- i know a number of people like this, but for me it was too much uncontrolled energy. i needed to take 2-3 scoops (these scoops are much bigger then the others as well) to get the desired effect. The energy boost was fairly quick (~15 min) and lasted well beyond the 1 hour lift. though i found myself groggy for the remainder of the day when it finally faded away. my biggest problem was the "uncontrolled" energy. when taking this i felt that the energy was felt mostly in my head which didn't allow me to focus much nor did it help that much with lifts. basically it felt as the world was all fuzzy. the taste (berry blue, i think) was also probably the worst of these four.
Well hopefully this will help people trying to make their mind-up about what to get in the future. The effects of these are based on my experiences alone rather then from what others have said. I know the whole feeling the energy boost in your body vs head concept wasn't explained too well, but for those that have tried them (especially nano and white flood) you probably know what i'm talking about. Hope this helps.
For anyone New to this site and new to NO products the above post is dead on. I have tried all 4 of those products and a few more on top of them and White flood has always proved the most effective. However, when it comes to NO products, to each his own. If you haven't tried White Flood though...give it a shot.
spaz126
01-11-2009, 04:21 PM
I bought Black Powder a few days ago. The first time I tried it I put a rounded scoop into about 10oz of water. Taste was nasty but I managed to choke it down. Had a good workout, but afterwards I was sick as a dog. Like really sick. I don't drink any caffeine so I think the overload of caffeine is what did it.
Today I had about half a scoop and it was great! No nausea after.
hypertrophy101
01-11-2009, 04:58 PM
As i stated before, i'm starting SP250 and green mag tomorrow. How would you guys go about taking this before your workout? Mix them both together? (Not sure how fruit punch and apple will go together) Seperate? Thanks
hypertrophy101
01-11-2009, 05:02 PM
how would you guys go about taking SP250 and green mag before your workout? Mix them both together? Not sure how fruit punch and green apple will mix
CONTROLLED LABS
01-11-2009, 08:48 PM
CL: I'm on dat-dere CL stack which includes: GreenMAG, P-Wraath and WF. Went searching through a few threads and saw a few things that may suggest that the magnesium in GreenMAG is the case? Maybe split a scoop pre and post? I also have a meal 2 hours before I lift... or is 2 hours too small of a time to be takin the supps?
sure, you could do half pre and half post.
I have a question exactly how are u suppose to take white flood and green mag together, white before and green after or both before thanks
mix them in one shake
For anyone New to this site and new to NO products the above post is dead on. I have tried all 4 of those products and a few more on top of them and White flood has always proved the most effective. However, when it comes to NO products, to each his own. If you haven't tried White Flood though...give it a shot.
awesome to hear :)
Motherlode
01-12-2009, 03:35 PM
Used the White Flood this morning , took a single heavy scoop at 5:30 Am and drank a couple cups of fresh ground French Roast , I'm still zinged at 3 pm.
Had a great workout and one of the best NO products for me so far,will know more in a couple of weeks.
Scott
postman4488
01-12-2009, 03:45 PM
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postman4488
01-12-2009, 03:48 PM
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pmurray34
01-12-2009, 04:42 PM
Okay I'm new to this so bear with me. Any answers are appreciated.
1. How long does it generally take for you to start ****ting on these products? Immediately? During? After WO?
2. Is it ok for a 16 yo to take NO?
3. NO Explode or Black Powder?
BBuilderLeon
01-12-2009, 05:44 PM
The best NO produce before workout has to be SuperPump250. It is so awesome, I feel the pump about 20-25 minutes after the first couple scoops and its so awesome. Lots of people complain about getting diarrhea and stuff like that but I get NONE of that. Absolutely nothing, no diarrhea or weird piss or anything. It's a really great product.
mjoto
01-12-2009, 05:50 PM
BSN NO gives me nausea...looking to try something different.
My choice would be N.O Shotgun v.3... Its $39.99 on BB.com and for the dosage its well worth it. For me and my experience N.O. Shotgun is the best in mho. First off it gave me energy, second it gives me awesome pumps, third it tastes pretty fricken good compared to the old N.O Shotgun, fourth I can up the dosage and it doesnt affect my work out negatively. I dont know if everyone has had the same experience as me but, here are a list of N.O products that I discontinued using and their reasons...
nano Vapor- tastes like **** and didnt get a decent pump
N.O xplode- quality product, but screws up my thyroid gland.
L-arganine pills- took a total of 100 pills, no results mentally or physically
NO2 (not black)- quality product, i was pissed off everytime I bought it
because it was so expensive for me, results did not equal
the value!
SuperPump 250- good feeling, just gave me diarrhea during and after my
workouts.
tried more but cant think of any of them right now...
mjoto
01-12-2009, 05:56 PM
Okay I'm new to this so bear with me. Any answers are appreciated.
1. How long does it generally take for you to start ****ting on these products? Immediately? During? After WO?
2. Is it ok for a 16 yo to take NO?
3. NO Explode or Black Powder?
If I was sixteen and was trying N.O products I would go with the band wagon which is N.O xplode. Reaction to the products differ for everyone... If you are unsure about a products validity just buy it from GNC AND SAVE YOUR RECEIPT!!!!!!!!!! This way you can return/exchange your product anytime before 30 days w/reciept as long as there is something left in the bottle! Yes 16 year olds can take N.O products, watch out for your thyroid gland though it my swell and hurt if the N.O product is not right for you! IMHO TRY'EM ALL!
TheRagingboxer
01-13-2009, 12:38 PM
Iam currently taking No xplode and have been for about 2 weeks now. Iam seeing better pumps and more focus, but I have not yet seen a diffence in size or gain. How much creatine is even in No xplode?
devilsrule2004
01-13-2009, 12:46 PM
im taking the nano vapor.. tastes pretty good and works well
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pmurray34
01-13-2009, 02:46 PM
What's the difference between black powder and white flood? Effectiveness? Side-Effects?
mjoto
01-13-2009, 08:28 PM
What's the difference between black powder and white flood? Effectiveness? Side-Effects?
go to BB.com store and look at the labels, there are similarities and there are differences, I have never personally tried either simply because the main ingredient for the main proprietary blend is AAKG (arginine alpha keto glutarate) it was actually hyped up by MRI when AAKG first made its scene. The problem was that when colleges did studies on AAKG alone, no signifigant weight gains, strength, or recovery were ever recorded. For ME any product with AAKG as its main ingredient and I automatically move on!
voges23
01-14-2009, 05:30 AM
hey guys first time on this forum. please give any and all feedback:
i am currently cycling juggernaut as my NO product with no creatine. i have not felt/seen the same pumps and vas as NO Shotgun. i am stacking with Dark Matter, Multi-Vitamins, Omega 3, R-ALA. i also began a cycle of cyclo-tren with a milk thistle to support. my protein consists of mega whey 2x a day (along with protein bars).
Should i be adding to this stack in order to maximize each product?
My bench has jumped from 185 to 210 since i began this cycle roughly 3 weeks ago. Curls jumped from 30lbs to 40lb. These are pretty substantial gains, but am I not maximizing the potential of these products?
suggestions welcomed!!
Thanks
CONTROLLED LABS
01-14-2009, 09:25 AM
What's the difference between black powder and white flood? Effectiveness? Side-Effects?
many differences including effects, price per serving and taste. look for reviews of each. we offer free white flood tablet samples
alottaboost
01-15-2009, 04:04 AM
How much creatine is even in No xplode?
Not enough. That's why people take CellMass (or any other creatine supp) PWO.
pmurray34
01-15-2009, 11:52 AM
3rd day of taking black powder and i had some amazing pumps today. I felt like my muscle was going to tear through my skin. I lifted for two hours straight and felt like i could go another two. I havent had ANY stomach problems, no ****ting, no headaches, no side-effects at all. Ive never taken any other NO products so i dont have anything to compare it to, but black powder is good for me.
SpeedyMG44
01-15-2009, 03:06 PM
I just tried the White Flood sample packet from BB.com before my current shoulders/arm workout. The sample was of the tablets not the powder but I gave it a shot along with the sample packet of purple wrath and green MAGnitude.
My workout consisted of the following exercises. Everything was 3x10.
Shoulders:
Military Press
Side Raises
Front Raises
Upright Rows
Shrugs
Arms (supersets of everything Bi/Tri):
EzBar Curls/Skull Crushers for 3 sets
Cross Body Hammer Curls/Close Grip Bench Press for 3 sets
Alternating DB Curls/Overhead DB tricep extension for 3 sets
Forearms. 3 giant supersets
Wrist Roller (1 up, 1 down= 1 set)/DB wrist Curls/Behind the Back BB wrist Curls for 3 sets.
Abs consisted of 3x30 weighted sit-ups, (10 pound plate), 3x50 twists with 25 plate, and 1x20 for each side oblique crunches with 20 DB.
Overall Rating for White Flood:
Focus 9/10: amazing focus, only thing that had me distracted was changing the music while i was lifting, nothing serious enough to effect my lifting, but i went over my rest time once or twice cause i couldn't find the song =/
Strength 8/10: It would have been more but i just got off of being sick/not eating a whole lot and lost 9 pounds in the process, my strength was above average for what i thought it would be with the current circumstances.
Endurance 10/10: did not tire out at all for the whole work out. fatigue didn't set it and if it did, i didn't realize it thats for sure. of course i got sore, but not to the point where it hindered my next set.
Pump 10/10: pump was incredible, of course who doesn't get a pump when doing bi's and tri's together lol.
Vascularity 9/10: i saw veins i did not even know i had. My triceps were very vascular, something i have been striving for, for a long time, and never really noticed except for a little while when i was on NO-Xplode.
Would I use this product again. You bet your ass I would. I fully intend on buying a tub of White Flood as soon as my current pre-workout mix runs out. Which won't be for a while seeing as I just bought a tub of NaNO Vapor to try out (my first muscletech product, please don't hate me i got a good deal and was curious lol). Controlled labs products have been very pleasing so far. I will be using them in the future.
Alcott
01-15-2009, 03:17 PM
is there any good Testosterone products out there i dont feel like wasting my money on **** that doesnt work!! help!
dbt3023
01-15-2009, 06:35 PM
I've tried Animal Pump, Shock Therapy, and Cold Fusion EX.
Here's what I think:
Animal Pump: Good, smooth energy. I feel very focused, but not cracked out while on this supplement. Maybe its just me, but this product makes me straight up angry before I go to the gym. One of my favorite things about AP is the pump. My arms get so swollen on this product. I also like the convenience of the pill form AP comes in. 10/10
Shock Therapy: Very similar to Animal Pump. Focused, but a little cracked out. The taste of the product could be better. If you order, the Fruit Punch is way better than the Grape. The pumps are still good, but not as good as Animal Pump. 8/10
Cold Fusion EX: Basically the closest thing to crack cocaine I've ever used. Gave me the ****s, made my head hurt, made my skin all prickly (horrible feeling), gave me a HUGE burst of energy but it quickly fades. Out of the three I've used, this is the WORST tasting product. I could barely get it down. It also stung my lips when i drank it. As far as the pump goes, it was good and lasted a while after my workout, but it was nothing special. 5/10
d_goodgame
01-15-2009, 07:21 PM
I've done Superpump, NO Xplode, but the best are those ready-to-drink bottles of Worldwide Nutrition "Extreme NOS". They are absolutely the best. My veins blow up, pump stays longer, and they taste great.
kglic1
01-15-2009, 07:45 PM
WTF PUMPED is a great product
Thinny
01-15-2009, 08:33 PM
I'm off of all NO. Gave me a bad anxiety attack last night.
MAKUA NUI
01-15-2009, 09:16 PM
I guess it depends on the person. NO Xplode does nothin for me as well as Superpump but, there's something about MRI's Black Powder that kicks me in the @ss. It lasts a long time too.
liljjb
01-16-2009, 06:17 AM
I really like white flood. Gives me a lot of energy. I got some great results using the green mag white flood & pruple wrath stack. would definetly take it again. mix it with some gatorade, it tastes better
digitalpunk
01-16-2009, 06:46 AM
From what I have heard NO does give you "a good pump" 2 people said that to me today, what exactly is a "pump" what do you think would be better, creatine or NO? im struggling on which to choose for my next purchase
da_big_newf
01-16-2009, 09:30 AM
I've been using White Flood for quite some time. I initially liked it very much. Gave me a ton of energy and some decent pumps. I was very focused as well. So, needless to say I was very happy with the product. I took a couple months off the Flood, came back to find it solid and brown, much like it was said to do. So, being a little upset, I tried another product, naNOx9 from Muscletech. I much say, I am very impressed by this product thus far. Have only been using it for about a week now but the pumps are just awesome, focus is there and energy is as well. I really like the pill format a little better then the powder as I can take them while drinking my creatine at the same time.
dbt3023
01-16-2009, 09:31 AM
From what I have heard NO does give you "a good pump" 2 people said that to me today, what exactly is a "pump" what do you think would be better, creatine or NO? im struggling on which to choose for my next purchase
To answer your question about a pump, it is that feeling you get when you have a good workout when your arms or whatever you worked out that day are swollen and tight from increased blood flow to your muscles.
Most pre-workout supplements have some mixture of creatine and NO. Why not go for both? A supplement that focuses more on the NO would most likely provide better pumps, while a creatine supplement is more for muscular fullness/endurance. I would highly recommend Animal Pump because it contains both. It has a 30 day supply I believe and is like $30 dollars on bb.com. Cost effective, clean energy, amazing pumps, good muscular growth. I bet you'll like it. I've also heard a lot of good things about White Flood. I'm almost out of Animal Pump, so I think that will be my next purchase. Hope this helped.
slmarley
01-16-2009, 09:42 AM
I have been using BSN "Nitrix" regularly for about 2 years and have been very pleased with the results. I initially chose this particular product because the manufacturer didn't make extravagant claims and the price was reasonable, though not the cheapest (you usually get what you pay for).
I follow label directions - 3 tabs, 3X/day, 30 minutes before meals on non-workout days. On workout days, I take 3 of the tabs about 30 minutes before my workout and find I have more energy and endurance than without using the product. I've also found that my overall circulation seems to have improved since using BSN Nitrix.
giladvalkor
01-16-2009, 09:46 AM
What's up fellow Bodybuilders? I'm New here....! I am currently trying to find a good NO product. I just purchased some Nitrix by BSN. I will begin using it in a few days. I have tried NO Xplode and it gave me a ton of energy...even when I was tired and worn out...it woke me up and really got me going, but it didn't really do anything for me in the pump department. Also it's kinda aggravating to have to mix it up and drink it down a little while before a workout. Especially since I usually go right after work. It's much easier to just pop a few pills and be done with it. After using this Nitrix. I may switch to another product. Depending on how well this one works for me.
ansatsuken
01-16-2009, 12:11 PM
What's up fellow Bodybuilders? I'm New here....! I am currently trying to find a good NO product. I just purchased some Nitrix by BSN. I will begin using it in a few days. I have tried NO Xplode and it gave me a ton of energy...even when I was tired and worn out...it woke me up and really got me going, but it didn't really do anything for me in the pump department. Also it's kinda aggravating to have to mix it up and drink it down a little while before a workout. Especially since I usually go right after work. It's much easier to just pop a few pills and be done with it. After using this Nitrix. I may switch to another product. Depending on how well this one works for me.
my first NO was pumptech the super old one and i loved it id never felt anything like blood-pumped my freakin forearms are about to ****ing explode pumps before. I stick to superpump now just because of the different tastes like lemonade n stuff.. i found that if you take 1 1/2 scoops it does the job VERY well!! Dasss my opinion anyway :)
Follow your own path :)
CONTROLLED LABS
01-16-2009, 12:16 PM
I just tried the White Flood sample packet from BB.com before my current shoulders/arm workout. The sample was of the tablets not the powder but I gave it a shot along with the sample packet of purple wrath and green MAGnitude.
My workout consisted of the following exercises. Everything was 3x10.
Shoulders:
Military Press
Side Raises
Front Raises
Upright Rows
Shrugs
Arms (supersets of everything Bi/Tri):
EzBar Curls/Skull Crushers for 3 sets
Cross Body Hammer Curls/Close Grip Bench Press for 3 sets
Alternating DB Curls/Overhead DB tricep extension for 3 sets
Forearms. 3 giant supersets
Wrist Roller (1 up, 1 down= 1 set)/DB wrist Curls/Behind the Back BB wrist Curls for 3 sets.
Abs consisted of 3x30 weighted sit-ups, (10 pound plate), 3x50 twists with 25 plate, and 1x20 for each side oblique crunches with 20 DB.
Overall Rating for White Flood:
Focus 9/10: amazing focus, only thing that had me distracted was changing the music while i was lifting, nothing serious enough to effect my lifting, but i went over my rest time once or twice cause i couldn't find the song =/
Strength 8/10: It would have been more but i just got off of being sick/not eating a whole lot and lost 9 pounds in the process, my strength was above average for what i thought it would be with the current circumstances.
Endurance 10/10: did not tire out at all for the whole work out. fatigue didn't set it and if it did, i didn't realize it thats for sure. of course i got sore, but not to the point where it hindered my next set.
Pump 10/10: pump was incredible, of course who doesn't get a pump when doing bi's and tri's together lol.
Vascularity 9/10: i saw veins i did not even know i had. My triceps were very vascular, something i have been striving for, for a long time, and never really noticed except for a little while when i was on NO-Xplode.
Would I use this product again. You bet your ass I would. I fully intend on buying a tub of White Flood as soon as my current pre-workout mix runs out. Which won't be for a while seeing as I just bought a tub of NaNO Vapor to try out (my first muscletech product, please don't hate me i got a good deal and was curious lol). Controlled labs products have been very pleasing so far. I will be using them in the future.
awesome, glad you loved white flood. what did you think of the other two products? :)
I really like white flood. Gives me a lot of energy. I got some great results using the green mag white flood & pruple wrath stack. would definetly take it again. mix it with some gatorade, it tastes better
sweet triple stack, many on this use that very stack :)
I've been using White Flood for quite some time. I initially liked it very much. Gave me a ton of energy and some decent pumps. I was very focused as well. So, needless to say I was very happy with the product. I took a couple months off the Flood, came back to find it solid and brown, much like it was said to do. So, being a little upset, I tried another product, naNOx9 from Muscletech. I much say, I am very impressed by this product thus far. Have only been using it for about a week now but the pumps are just awesome, focus is there and energy is as well. I really like the pill format a little better then the powder as I can take them while drinking my creatine at the same time.
sorry to hear that, sounds like it picked up some moisture from the air. if your willing to give the white flood tablets a shot I can have a free sample sent to you :)
I've also heard a lot of good things about White Flood. I'm almost out of Animal Pump, so I think that will be my next purchase. Hope this helped.
awesome, keep us posted on your white flood results when you give it a shot
BigRipley
02-07-2009, 04:57 PM
I have been taking arnge krush for about 8 months now and I love it!!! Istarted to use shock therapy with it an it was just fukin amazing. I stack both of them wit kre alkalyne pills an beta alanine pills. It is just amazing. People at school even call me steriods it's awsome. I seen alot of people saying no explode is fukin amazing...it sux balls all it is is a 40 dollor energy drink.
fischetti
02-07-2009, 10:45 PM
I have been using BSN "Nitrix" regularly for about 2 years and have been very pleased with the results. I initially chose this particular product because the manufacturer didn't make extravagant claims and the price was reasonable, though not the cheapest (you usually get what you pay for).
I follow label directions - 3 tabs, 3X/day, 30 minutes before meals on non-workout days. On workout days, I take 3 of the tabs about 30 minutes before my workout and find I have more energy and endurance than without using the product. I've also found that my overall circulation seems to have improved since using BSN Nitrix.
BSN Nitrix is awsome mate but as soon as you stop taking it results vanish very quickly
fischetti
02-07-2009, 10:46 PM
I have been taking arnge krush for about 8 months now and I love it!!! Istarted to use shock therapy with it an it was just fukin amazing. I stack both of them wit kre alkalyne pills an beta alanine pills. It is just amazing. People at school even call me steriods it's awsome. I seen alot of people saying no explode is fukin amazing...it sux balls all it is is a 40 dollor energy drink.
Try shock with storm and staminade you will love it,i do.**** i sound like a Universal REP:)
mFab2009
02-07-2009, 10:49 PM
Yes, this is my 2nd post. No, I am not new to bodybuilding and am not new to this website. Take it or leave it.
I have tried the following (and rank as follow):
White Flood
Superpump 250
NANO Vapor
NO Xplode
I thought that NO Xplode was a complete waste of money. White Flood gives me so much pump and focus to the point where I never want to move on to the next exercise. I've been using WF on and off (mostly on) for about 4 months and have felt no 'immunity' to this supplement.
Superpump was great as well. I was using that for a few months, but started to feel immune to the effects. However, Superpump really assisted me in reaching my goals back during that time.
NANO Vapor was okay. I had good pumps, but was struggling at the toilet.
And, as I said earlier, NO Xplode was a waste of money for me, and I would never recommend this product.
enswalters
02-08-2009, 05:04 AM
My results were very similar. I've tried a lot of the big name brands, and the two best were Superpump 250 and White Flood. I take White Flood because it's more economical. You seriously can not beat the price of their wf/gm/pw stack here on bb.com.
And no, I'm not a rep or anything. Just a regular Navy guy who likes working out but not wasting money. That's why I always recommend getting samples and trying things out for yourself. Different people react differently, so you have to see what works best for you.
One thing I will say - stay away from Muscletech. Huge waste of money. When you buy their products, you're just paying for all their advertising and endorsements.
HeGirA
02-08-2009, 08:56 AM
My results were very similar. I've tried a lot of the big name brands, and the two best were Superpump 250 and White Flood. I take White Flood because it's more economical. You seriously can not beat the price of their wf/gm/pw stack here on bb.com.
And no, I'm not a rep or anything. Just a regular Navy guy who likes working out but not wasting money. That's why I always recommend getting samples and trying things out for yourself. Different people react differently, so you have to see what works best for you.
One thing I will say - stay away from Muscletech. Huge waste of money. When you buy their products, you're just paying for all their advertising and endorsements.
Its Dat Der Muscletech
Joe_6_Pack
02-08-2009, 11:08 AM
White Flood - wont leave home without it.
sncaufield
02-08-2009, 11:37 AM
I've used 1 1/2 tubs of superpump and I really like it. Gives you energy, better pumps, and recovery. But the reason I like it the most is the increased endurance. I'm always the last person to want to leave the gym when I go with a friend. I go to the gym 4 days a week. Without it, I'd honestly be hard pressed to go twice a week. Increased my max bench from 185 to 220 and my dips from 15-12-10 to 28-23-20, among other increases.
I've thought about White Flood because the reviews are fantastic, but I really don't want to risk spending like 40 dollars on it and then it not working for me. I'm in college so I don't really have that kind of $. I can't find any free samples of it online. I don't buy stacks, so individually the SP is actually cheaper, from what I've seen.
MattJ1987
02-08-2009, 12:03 PM
I think the best product is BSN NO-Xplode, it's hands down better than anything else out-there
SkrewzLoose
02-08-2009, 12:57 PM
I've used several NO products...
Xyience NCG3: Used this when I very first started working out. Don't really remember any pros or cons to it. It tasted great and didn't make me crap though!
Super Pump 250: After doing some research here on BB.com, I decided to give SP250 a try. It tasted horrible and gave me violent bad guts upon returning from the gym. The strength/endurance/pump was noticable, but nothing out of this world. Never buy again.
NOXplode: Tastes pretty good, but also gave me horrendous guts during my workout. I couldn't tell you about any effects because I was too worried about soiling myself while lifting. Never buy again.
White Flood (powder): I'm currently using WF (stacked with Green Bulge) preWO. The taste is OK, and I like the tingling in my face that happens about 30 minutes after consumption. I don't really notice any increased endurance/energy/pump while at the gym, but I do sweat profusely...must be something working. I really like Controlled Labs stuff, but I must admit, even with the WF I'm not feeling a huge impact while I'm at the gym. If anything, it leaves me feeling a bit jittery.
So here I am, wondering what to try next. After I finish this tub of WF, I'm going to cycle off NO stuff for 2-3 weeks. My thoughts as to what to try next are as follows.
White Blood (tablets): I think Controlled Labs has some very solid products. I don't really like the taste of the WF, so I figured I'd give a tablet version a try and see what happens. Plus, after reading the description, it seems as if the WB tablets are a bit of an improved version of WF. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
NO Shotgun: VPX offers a stimulant free version of this product, which I think would be easier on my stomach. I asked a few people and they said the bad guts with PreWO stuff can be due to the high levels of caffeine.
NaNO X9 hardcore or MyoShock HSP: I realize there are many people here with varying opinions on MuscleTech products. The only reason I even know this stuff exists is because my room mate received a free sample with a recent order from BB.com. He said he took them on arms day and the pump was unlike anything he's ever experienced. He could barely move his arms past a 90* angle after his workout. Any opinions would be great. Don't just say, MuscleTech sucks...just because.
Any and all suggestions, opinions, advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, in advance, for your help!!
_CUJO_
02-08-2009, 02:00 PM
i have always just taken whey protein as far as supplements and workouts were pretty intense......about a month ago i was introduced to this website and have learned so much about everything, because i didnt know jack**** lol
So i started taking Super Pump a month ago and from the first workout my 1-hour workout turned to 2 1/2.....leaving the gym i still felt good not tired like i have always been.....reps and sets went up!
p.s. i have taken everything i have learned her on bb.com and am currently applying it for the last month and i have seen results i have not ever seen before
currently taking 5 different supplements and my nutrition is alot cleaner than before. the pics i have up on my profile are 6month+ ago. i am alot leaner now. I will post recent pics in a few weeks. thanx bb.com
j0hn9999
02-08-2009, 04:16 PM
I love white flood tablets. took a while to get adapted to how many to take and I really love it. I also use green mag pre-workout and can tell a difference if I don't.
my question is how long can I take this safely? month on, two weeks off, or just keep going with it?
I'm just getting over a kidney stone so for the last 5 days all I did was lay on my right side and chew percacets and flowmax and chug cranberry juice and water. not too much fun
went back to workout today and took WF and GM and haven't missed a beat in the gym. great stuff.
Tuboguts
02-08-2009, 06:34 PM
I've tried a few buckets of NO products, so here's my 2 cents... I honestly believe it's about body chemistry with NO (and a lot of other sups as well). Too many people swear by things that didn't do a thing for me or others...
NO Explode - cool fizzy taste, like "Pop-rocks" or something... Other than a caffeine kick, pretty disappointed...
SuperPump 250 - Ummmm... Nasty Kool-Aid??? NO Explode without the cool fizzy or the caffeine kick.
MyoShock - I hate pills, as they take forever and the timing is so critical. That being said, these worked, but I had to basically Overdose on them to get the desired effect. Something tells me I'd be up to half a bottle after a while... Nice heating effect and plenty of energy.
PlasmaJet - Nothing. A REAL EXPENSIVE nothing...
Wal-Mart Body Fortress NO Pills - LOL, better than you might think!!! Better than the NOE, SP, MyS, and PJ!!!
NaNO Vapor has actually been my favorite NO product, and it doesn't even provide that great of a pump on it's own. What it does have is a real nice clarifying effect - which provides a laser sharp focus during the workout. It also provides a nice warming effect to get you warmed up from set #1.
I'm not even sure if they classify Volumaize by BSN as a NO product, but that BY FAR has provided my best pumps. I tried almost everything listed above and could never get the "SKIN RIPPING PUMPS" everyone of them promised. This stuff does that - along with providing extra energy for longer workouts.
Right now I stack NaNO Vapor with Volumaize - and love it.
Adjusting
02-08-2009, 06:41 PM
For everyone who loves the "pump" here's an extremely informative article and audio spot.
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/i...7&Ite mid=182
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/c.../view/1426/51/
JDMVYTOE
02-08-2009, 06:41 PM
BSN NO-Xplode Fruit Punch
Melissa01
02-08-2009, 06:41 PM
I love the superpump 250....After reading this,I might try the white flood.I dont know any women who take it though.
enswalters
02-08-2009, 07:22 PM
NaNO X9 hardcore or MyoShock HSP: I realize there are many people here with varying opinions on MuscleTech products. The only reason I even know this stuff exists is because my room mate received a free sample with a recent order from BB.com. He said he took them on arms day and the pump was unlike anything he's ever experienced. He could barely move his arms past a 90* angle after his workout. Any opinions would be great. Don't just say, MuscleTech sucks...just because.
Any and all suggestions, opinions, advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, in advance, for your help!!
I just got a sample of MyoShock HSP with my order from wheycheap.com, so I'll be trying it out tomorrow and will post the results. it's got 400 mg of caffeine so that should be quite a jolt!
I also take the wf/gm stack and I've found it's been the most effective product out there - and the price isn't bad either. But I always like to give new products a shot, so we'll see.
The one thing about Muscletech is that it seems like they include creatine monohydrate in every one of their products. Not sure why they do that.
CONTROLLED LABS
02-08-2009, 07:28 PM
Yes, this is my 2nd post. No, I am not new to bodybuilding and am not new to this website. Take it or leave it.
I have tried the following (and rank as follow):
White Flood
Superpump 250
NANO Vapor
NO Xplode
thanks, its an honor that you rank us higher than these other top products
My results were very similar. I've tried a lot of the big name brands, and the two best were Superpump 250 and White Flood. I take White Flood because it's more economical. You seriously can not beat the price of their wf/gm/pw stack here on bb.com.
awesome, its a great value at 50 workouts per tub at full dose
White Flood - wont leave home without it.
I've used 1 1/2 tubs of superpump and I really like it. Gives you energy, better pumps, and recovery. But the reason I like it the most is the increased endurance. I'm always the last person to want to leave the gym when I go with a friend. I go to the gym 4 days a week. Without it, I'd honestly be hard pressed to go twice a week. Increased my max bench from 185 to 220 and my dips from 15-12-10 to 28-23-20, among other increases.
I've thought about White Flood because the reviews are fantastic, but I really don't want to risk spending like 40 dollars on it and then it not working for me. I'm in college so I don't really have that kind of $. I can't find any free samples of it online. I don't buy stacks, so individually the SP is actually cheaper, from what I've seen.
get the half size white flood for like 25 bucks, cant beat that. also, there are white flood tablet samples on bodybuilding.com's store
I love white flood tablets. took a while to get adapted to how many to take and I really love it. I also use green mag pre-workout and can tell a difference if I don't.
my question is how long can I take this safely? month on, two weeks off, or just keep going with it?
I'm just getting over a kidney stone so for the last 5 days all I did was lay on my right side and chew percacets and flowmax and chug cranberry juice and water. not too much fun
went back to workout today and took WF and GM and haven't missed a beat in the gym. great stuff.
for white flood, cycle off for about 7-10 days from it and all other stims after each tub
BigPumpinJoe
02-08-2009, 08:21 PM
I've used several NO products...
NaNO X9 hardcore or MyoShock HSP: I realize there are many people here with varying opinions on MuscleTech products. The only reason I even know this stuff exists is because my room mate received a free sample with a recent order from BB.com. He said he took them on arms day and the pump was unlike anything he's ever experienced. He could barely move his arms past a 90* angle after his workout. Any opinions would be great. Don't just say, MuscleTech sucks...just because.
Any and all suggestions, opinions, advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, in advance, for your help!!
I don't know about Muscletech pre workout products though. Tried Nano Vapor and that made me this wierd mix of being awake and sleepy at the same time. It was decent though but I absolutely hated the taste. I got Blue Rasberry and I don't know how they managed to screw that up.
I would stay away from that Nano X9 stuff. My friend bought that stuff and said that it's nothing you can't get standard arginine capsules. I feel that the sample packets seem to always be juiced up more so it convinces you to buy the product.
Tried the Myoshock sample I got and seemed decent. Delayed some fatigue and decent energy rush. Not really an NO product but good pre workout with 400 mg of caffiene.
dyno772
02-08-2009, 09:45 PM
I have always always always used nox2 and experienced the craziest pumps. youd be hard pressed to find something similar in value .... IMO https://thegrindersgame.com/co/34/c/wink.gif
White Flood (powder): I don't really notice any increased endurance/energy/pump while at the gym, but I do sweat profusely...must be something working.
funny you mention this. i didn't really put the two together, but i have really noticed myself sweating a lot more since the start of white flood whether its because of the white flood directly or because my lifts are more intense. either way, i always come home looking like i just went for a swim.
TheBigRigatoni
02-09-2009, 07:17 AM
yea how about Overdose? NRG-X Labs?? My all time fav stacked with MaXX Pump
erokjenkins
02-09-2009, 09:38 AM
can someone please point me in the direction of or hook me up with a recipe for a pre workout supp...i have heard an inexpensive route is mixing arginine and ornothine (spelling?) but not sure what brands or how much per serving etc...I currently take BSN products and will soon be switching to CL products but looking to save more money
CONTROLLED LABS
02-09-2009, 09:50 AM
funny you mention this. i didn't really put the two together, but i have really noticed myself sweating a lot more since the start of white flood whether its because of the white flood directly or because my lifts are more intense. either way, i always come home looking like i just went for a swim. ye, it will make you sweat more for sure
can someone please point me in the direction of or hook me up with a recipe for a pre workout supp...i have heard an inexpensive route is mixing arginine and ornothine (spelling?) but not sure what brands or how much per serving etc...I currently take BSN products and will soon be switching to CL products but looking to save more money
keep us posted on how you like our products, as feedback is important to us. which ones are you looking into trying first?
Bolt24
02-09-2009, 09:54 AM
After trying no-explode, superpump, and no shotgun v.3(new stuff) I realized why I had originally gone with shotgun vs the others during the 1st workout. Better pumps, more energy, and focus is there...... my pick is n.o. shotgun. They have also greatly increased the taste of the mix as well.
I've never tried w.f., but will consider when this tub of shotgun is gone.
JodyBoi
02-09-2009, 01:18 PM
If you take White Flood I'll tell you now to "ween" yourself on it. The stuff is the strongest pre workout out there. You will be too energized if you dont watch it.
Xyle101
02-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Based on my experienced Niteworks is the best for me because I think this is important, because as you age, production of Nitric Oxide, the naturally occurring compound which keeps blood vessels young and flexible, declines https://thegrindersgame.com/co/34/b/happy.gif
erokjenkins
02-09-2009, 05:23 PM
ye, it will make you sweat more for sure
keep us posted on how you like our products, as feedback is important to us. which ones are you looking into trying first?
just ordered white flood and green mag
DevilDog-0311
02-10-2009, 10:02 AM
Currently using naNo Vapor, just bought it yesterday and first time using it this morning, very impressed with it! It worked well with giving the extra pumps, and its amazing with cardio, ran 3 miles like it was nothing, then USUALLY I'm all done after I run, but I just couldn't get enough, and went back to upper body! GOOD STUFF!
mofos
02-10-2009, 10:13 AM
The Human Psychological Mind is the best NO product on the market. haha but a real product? I guess for me SP250 cuz it was my first NO pre workout supplement ever.
XxNextKobeXx24
02-10-2009, 10:37 AM
No Xplode
jshepyo
02-10-2009, 12:17 PM
love the orange bsn no xplode
hated the SuperPump, nasty taste, pretty much a powder form of laxative
Synergy317
02-10-2009, 01:52 PM
I cant say that NO-Xplode is the best because it is the only NO product i tried. But, today i tried it on a completely empty stomach and ice cold water. It worked so much better then taking it with cold water right from the tap.
CONTROLLED LABS
02-10-2009, 02:22 PM
After trying no-explode, superpump, and no shotgun v.3(new stuff) I realized why I had originally gone with shotgun vs the others during the 1st workout. Better pumps, more energy, and focus is there...... my pick is n.o. shotgun. They have also greatly increased the taste of the mix as well.
I've never tried w.f., but will consider when this tub of shotgun is gone.
thanks for giving white flood a shot, looking forward to your feedback
If you take White Flood I'll tell you now to "ween" yourself on it. The stuff is the strongest pre workout out there. You will be too energized if you dont watch it.
that is no joke, its very potent
just ordered white flood and green mag awesome, keep a log if you have the time
jmo529
02-10-2009, 02:48 PM
Black Powder. By far the best overall NO2 and probably the best supplement i have ever taken. It gives you insane energy and completely eliminates the burn. You feel almost invincible!
segiterrus
02-10-2009, 03:29 PM
Whiteflood, is phenomenal pre workout, kept me running not only thru lifting, but thru running!!!
spikesmob
02-10-2009, 04:42 PM
Anyone try N.O. Fury by six star muscle?
cmukid87
02-10-2009, 07:07 PM
I use White Flood pills now...I was wondering how I can stack White Blood into my workout.
Right now I use WF/GM Pre-workout, PW Intraworkout, and GM post workout. Where does white blood fit in?
ebn123
02-10-2009, 10:38 PM
I've taking Wf and Nano Vapor.
White flood- great pumps and last a long time. But it takes two weeks to really get in your system.. xtra reps will be there
Nano Vapor... great Thermo agent. great brust. however the cost $$$ is way to much. also your body gets use to it after like 2 weeks so you have to add more scoops.
White Flood is my choice because it's a better overall product
BOOSTEDDUDE
02-10-2009, 11:10 PM
Well, I've replied to this thread a few times being a pre-workout NO junkie. I've tried the following starting with the first one I tried:
NO Xplode , Black Powder, NANO Vapor, White Flood, Supercharged NO Xtreme, Hypershock.
I really loved NO XPlode when I first tried it. The first few times were intense and very noticeable. After I got a bit of a tolerance xplode wasn't as effective but still worked good. I then tried the black powder and was impressed with that product as well. I went through a few jugs of Black Powder. Good stuff as well. I went through 2 jugs of NANO Vapor and it was good and effective also. However, it did give me a little bit of the jitters and the 2nd jug of the Blue Raspberry didn't taste very good at all and was rough going down. I like muscletech (Using Halo now) but I won't be going back to the NANO. Next, I bought a jug of the WF and was pretty impressed. I liked the WF because I did get great pumps and it was smooth without jitters but the aftertaste of the ver 2 Electric Lemonade was pretty nasty and I'm a taste guy. I tried the WF Tabs and probably will again since the sample seemed somewhat effective but not as intense as other NO sups.
Finally 2 years later I'm still taking these and should probably cycle off more often. I usually have 2 pre-workout sups and mix them on different days to try and prevent tolerance issues. Seems to work. Anyway, I just got the Supercharged NO Xtreme and started using it. I'm really liking this stuff as well. Good taste and good pumps, coorination, focus. Seems to be a pretty smooth buzz also which is nice since I don't really like the jitters. I have yet to crack into my hypershock but the samples kicked my ass so I'm expecting the same. All in all I'm pretty into the drinks for habitual reasons I like to drink the NO instead of pills. However, I did try those RPM's and those are pretty good so I might do pills next time. Anyway, NO ON!
caleb.sexson
02-11-2009, 06:29 AM
I would have to say NANO Vapor by Muscletech, it always gets me motivated to go to the gym and I love the pump I feel after my workouts.
thelostfew
02-11-2009, 06:35 AM
Tie between MRI Black Powder and Bsn No-xplode
suspek24
02-11-2009, 11:27 AM
by cytogenix laboratories fruit punch tastes great, mixes well and seems to have some good ingredients... anyone ever use it?
workout101
02-11-2009, 09:57 PM
WF question...
I took WF for the first time and I can't really comment on it, but I was wondering would I feel the full effects taking an NO supplement?
I didn't really know what to expect so I'm not able to properly rate it right now.
phlpcoke8
02-12-2009, 06:03 AM
I think noxplode is pretty much the same as the new muscletech nanox9 supplement. Since you get more bang for your buck with bsn, then I would recommendhttps://thegrindersgame.com/co/34/b/happy.gif
SkrewzLoose
02-12-2009, 06:24 AM
WF question...
I took WF for the first time and I can't really comment on it, but I was wondering would I feel the full effects taking an NO supplement?
I didn't really know what to expect so I'm not able to properly rate it right now.
You won't really notice anything until you take 2 scoops. The biggest thing I noticed was a tingling sensation in my face about 30 minutes after consumption and I sweat profusely when I work out. The tingling is normal. NO products and their effects vary from user to user. Give it a few days/weeks and see what the results are like. CL makes very solid supplements, I think you'll be happy with the White Flood.
TheBigRigatoni
02-12-2009, 07:19 AM
Gang has anybody tried Overdose by NRG-X Labs? We are running some free samps if anyone would like to try it. And give us your review on it.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=114044131
TapOut4002
02-12-2009, 08:45 AM
cycling on and off bsn's no xplode is the ****
CONTROLLED LABS
02-12-2009, 10:03 AM
I use White Flood pills now...I was wondering how I can stack White Blood into my workout.
Right now I use WF/GM Pre-workout, PW Intraworkout, and GM post workout. Where does white blood fit in? if you want to add it take it before bed.
I've taking Wf and Nano Vapor.
White flood- great pumps and last a long time. But it takes two weeks to really get in your system.. xtra reps will be there
Nano Vapor... great Thermo agent. great brust. however the cost $$$ is way to much. also your body gets use to it after like 2 weeks so you have to add more scoops.
White Flood is my choice because it's a better overall product
thanks for your feedback
WF question...
I took WF for the first time and I can't really comment on it, but I was wondering would I feel the full effects taking an NO supplement?
I didn't really know what to expect so I'm not able to properly rate it right now. what were your expectations when you purchased it? how many scoops did you take?
You won't really notice anything until you take 2 scoops. The biggest thing I noticed was a tingling sensation in my face about 30 minutes after consumption and I sweat profusely when I work out. The tingling is normal. NO products and their effects vary from user to user. Give it a few days/weeks and see what the results are like. CL makes very solid supplements, I think you'll be happy with the White Flood.
thanks for the kind words :)
workout101
02-12-2009, 04:07 PM
Well, I've never taken NO before, but since I loved every CL product I've taken before I decided to give WF a shot.
I really dont know what I should be expecting, I felt the tingles for SURE! I was sitting on my chair and all of a sudden felt a rush through my whole body.
I read a lot about the PUMP but I dont know what its really supposed to feel like.
I'm gonna go this week with it, then go off it next week to see what the difference is.
hateitorloveit2
02-12-2009, 04:58 PM
I like superpump 250 the best. Here are my reasons:
-Good energy boost.
-Good Focus.
-Not too jittery.
-Does not do the work for you, and I can still feel the weight.
-Has creatine blended in.
-Good taste, really.
This has been a good supplement for me, I DO see automatic results, and I have put on more lean muscle because of this product. Recommended it to my best friend and he has been seeing good results too!
Madridi
02-12-2009, 06:01 PM
Alright first post. Been working out for a few years (took sometime off) and back to the gym now for a few months.
Anyways I have a real newb question:
I remember when I used creatine a while back that everywhere I read and everyone said not to drink coffee or anything with caffeine with the creatine since it breaks it down and doesn't allow it to be absorbed properly. So if that's true how is it that these NO products have a large dose of caffeine along with creatine and are usually staked with creatine?
Sorry if this has been answered before/ if this is the wrong place to ask.
Thanks!
Trans_Isomer
02-12-2009, 10:30 PM
Alright first post. Been working out for a few years (took sometime off) and back to the gym now for a few months.
Anyways I have a real newb question:
I remember when I used creatine a while back that everywhere I read and everyone said not to drink coffee or anything with caffeine with the creatine since it breaks it down and doesn't allow it to be absorbed properly. So if that's true how is it that these NO products have a large dose of caffeine along with creatine and are usually staked with creatine?
Sorry if this has been answered before/ if this is the wrong place to ask.
Thanks!
Caffeine and creatine together are fine.
martobg
02-13-2009, 10:25 AM
I've been using no xplode and cellmass for some time and really loved those products but i've read all the comments about WF and Greenmag and decided to switch. I'm also starting my cutiing phase so my question is how to best take these 3 supps during the day...I've given my usual daily routine below:
9am - breakfast
10am - an hour of swimming
noon - lunch
about 3-4pm - workout
and then the other meals for the day...
and two last questions: how effective is purple wrath? cause i'm on a low budget and cant really afford it...and should i add glutamine separately, and if yes, which one do you recommend?
enswalters
02-13-2009, 11:35 AM
I've been using no xplode and cellmass for some time and really loved those products but i've read all the comments about WF and Greenmag and decided to switch. I'm also starting my cutiing phase so my question is how to best take these 3 supps during the day...I've given my usual daily routine below:
9am - breakfast
10am - an hour of swimming
noon - lunch
about 3-4pm - workout
and then the other meals for the day...
and two last questions: how effective is purple wrath? cause i'm on a low budget and cant really afford it...and should i add glutamine separately, and if yes, which one do you recommend?
If you're on a low budget, then I would get the pw/gm/wf combo pack on bb.com. Great price for all 3, especially if you use the 10% off coupon code. What I like about pw is the endurance and recovery it gives you. I take plain glutamine separately with my post workout protein shake.
ThundaThigh
02-13-2009, 11:47 AM
Just go this new stuff called DARK RAGE...sounds intimidating right? It actually has been working pretty well. The pumps are amazing compared to any other pre-workout i have tried (n.o x-plode, n.o shotgun, vapor, superpump 250).
The only thing i did not like was the energy complex. Im not sensitive to caffine usually but i did def get a little bit of the jitters. reminded me of the no xplode days. I took it around 5:30pm and coulnt fall asleep till 1:00am. (i usually go to bed by 11)
I've just started it so i might have to adjust my tollarance...but so far SOLID PRODUCT
martobg
02-13-2009, 03:16 PM
If you're on a low budget, then I would get the pw/gm/wf combo pack on bb.com. Great price for all 3, especially if you use the 10% off coupon code. What I like about pw is the endurance and recovery it gives you. I take plain glutamine separately with my post workout protein shake.
how do i get the 10% off coupon ?
hfxmunroe
02-13-2009, 03:35 PM
been using Mucsleprime for about a week or so now.. its not bad doesnt give that grouse feeling in your stomach
enswalters
02-13-2009, 04:46 PM
how do i get the 10% off coupon ?
I sent you a PM.
Madridi
02-13-2009, 07:09 PM
What do you guys think of PlasmaJet by Gaspari?
Luckylefty811
02-13-2009, 08:21 PM
I have a preworkout question, I am currently taking dymatize xpand preworkout. I have never tried a pw before and my question is... After I take xpand my arms start to get red n feel tingly and after I start to lift I start to get alot of veins popping out of my neck and veins from my arm start to bulge. Is this normal? Should I drink more water while I'm working out? I look pretty crazy at the gym people start to state at me n I just start my workout and these effects happen right away. Sorry for the sloppy writing I'm on
My iPhone in the gym right now just about to leave.
mofos
02-13-2009, 08:35 PM
the tingly feeling is from the supplement i forgot whats the name, some pre workout have that in it, but the red part i have no idea. veins are popping i guess is normal, since it dilates your muscle for more blood flow.
enswalters
02-13-2009, 08:40 PM
Tingling is most likely from beta alanine, common in a lot of pre-workout formulas.
Goonie26
02-13-2009, 10:29 PM
BSN's No Explode is pretty good, but recently Im lovin MRI's Black Powder, get Blue raspberry if anything, taste great like a sour blue razz soda, but the pump, strength and everything is up to par with N.O and plus its cheaper, you take 1 scoop as suppose to 3 scoops
Luckylefty811
02-14-2009, 07:24 AM
ok thanks for the response.....ill keep taking it and see what happens i am going to drink about 32 ozs of water after i take it and and another 32ozs while working out....ill see if that helps
Imeniaan
02-14-2009, 07:52 AM
L-norvaline and GPLC, the latter one has been proven to increase NO synthase. Stop buying all those other useless supplements, they make you poor and don't work.
Al you need = 5 g of GPLC/day and 200 mg of L-Norvaline/day.
Massive Pumps and true NO enhancement.
HeGirA
02-14-2009, 09:34 AM
ok thanks for the response.....ill keep taking it and see what happens i am going to drink about 32 ozs of water after i take it and and another 32ozs while working out....ill see if that helps
You should be drinking bout 1-2 gallons of watrer a day if your taking a N.o. product and/or creatine
HeGirA
02-14-2009, 09:35 AM
i drink at least 2 galoons of water a day...from the moment i get up to the moment i go to bed
jay90
02-14-2009, 09:38 AM
N.O. xplode has always been my favorite its cheap, it really gives me a great pump no matter what, and it has about 3g of creatine in a serving *i think* dont start quoting me now.. lol
GivemeSIX
02-14-2009, 09:50 AM
Olympian Labs A-AKG... Why complicate things
made2br8k
02-14-2009, 10:04 AM
i would have to say that one of then best products ive used was no explode.
As it was stated in tis column ny other users it def cuts recovery time by i would say almost days. my back and leg workouts are generally very heavy and require high reps, no explode alwaya pushes me through them with ease.
snbgnc
02-14-2009, 11:28 AM
What do you guys think of PlasmaJet by Gaspari?
Great stuff, I stacked with Shotgun, and got the best pump I ever had, I seriously thought my bi's were going to pop. The only problem I have, is they say to take it every other day, but if I work out 2 days in a row, it has no effect the 2nd day. I ended up taking it a second day in a row with my shotgun and really had to monitor my heartrate cause my heart was racing, prob a bad idea. Great stuff, too pricey though.
HeGirA
02-14-2009, 02:06 PM
N.O. xplode has always been my favorite its cheap, it really gives me a great pump no matter what, and it has about 3g of creatine in a serving *i think* dont start quoting me now.. lol
N.o. xplode is not cheap at all....