View Full Version : Best Overall Nitric Oxide (NO) Product?
CONTROLLED LABS
11-20-2008, 01:21 PM
Why is No Explode still number 1 if not many people seem to like it on these forums? honestly I think theres too much marketing on white flood & controlled labs products on these forums
that is called customer feedback, people like the products ;)
Drivn2perfection
11-20-2008, 01:32 PM
I would like to know why people rate NO-Explode so high too. It was the first NO product I ever took way back in the day and the only thing that really impressed me was my energy. And, of course, that was due to the fact that they had about 400mg of caffeine per scoop. Now they've had to recall the original formula and change that.
I liked white flood when I was on it. Definitely one of the top ones. I'm sold on Fast Twitch right now though. I take that pre W/O and then take CL's Purple Wraath with the remaining 1/3 of Fast Twitch right before/during my workout.
Arnold11
11-20-2008, 01:45 PM
I would like to know why people rate NO-Explode so high too. It was the first NO product I ever took way back in the day and the only thing that really impressed me was my energy. And, of course, that was due to the fact that they had about 400mg of caffeine per scoop. Now they've had to recall the original formula and change that.
I liked white flood when I was on it. Definitely one of the top ones. I'm sold on Fast Twitch right now though. I take that pre W/O and then take CL's Purple Wraath with the remaining 1/3 of Fast Twitch right before/during my workout.
is their avpt 1 the renewed version?
supa_89
11-20-2008, 08:18 PM
I would have to say white flood, the new NO-Xplode isn't as strong as it use to be..
OPL33Z
11-21-2008, 01:17 AM
No-xplode
simpleguy
11-21-2008, 03:24 AM
No-explode was nothing but a great rush which faded off after 2-3 weeks... never got to feel it again as I used to at first, it actually began giving me headaches...
about the new formula, from the faqs:
'The amount of caffeine in N.O.-XPLODE cannot be disclosed due to the fact that it's part of one of the proprietary complexes that make up the complete N.O.-XPLODE formula, namely the Ener-Tropic Xplosion complex, which contains methylxanthine, a specific form of caffeine.'
so it means you kinda have no idea how much caffeine is in there... personally I think it has a load
Arnold11
11-21-2008, 04:21 AM
No-explode was nothing but a great rush which faded off after 2-3 weeks... never got to feel it again as I used to at first, it actually began giving me headaches...
about the new formula, from the faqs:
'The amount of caffeine in N.O.-XPLODE cannot be disclosed due to the fact that it's part of one of the proprietary complexes that make up the complete N.O.-XPLODE formula, namely the Ener-Tropic Xplosion complex, which contains methylxanthine, a specific form of caffeine.'
so it means you kinda have no idea how much caffeine is in there... personally I think it has a load
isn't that the same with all NO products though.
HardGainer86
11-21-2008, 06:46 AM
that is called customer feedback, people like the products ;)
+1. There is no doubt that white flood is an amazing product. My gains were beginning to get pretty small, but once I started taking WF preworkout, my gains went through the roof. I would recommend it to anyone. I do get the BA tingles, but I like that feeling. This stuff keeps me wanting to work out!
Arnold11
11-21-2008, 07:15 AM
Im from Uk and can't find purple K? the full name is? plus Size on why does it say it will give u a big belly ? like fat or muscly? one more thing...WTF does placebo mean
semperzar
11-21-2008, 09:30 AM
went to GNC (ehh) to buy some wf. didnt have it, so i purchased a 800gm tub of sp250. yesterday was my 2nd day using sp250. so far so good. I have a friend who purchased some Black powder a week ago, and decided its not for him. we made a deal for $20. Ima try the Black after sp250.. see which ones better.
semperzar
11-21-2008, 10:04 AM
Im from Uk and can't find purple K? the full name is? plus Size on why does it say it will give u a big belly ? like fat or muscly? one more thing...WTF does placebo mean
Placebos are used in blind studys (experiments to find out whether a 'new' supplement actually gives results and effects, as compared to a placebo).
The placebo is basically a "do nothing drug", which is given to half of the people in the study, and the 'real' supplement is given to the other half. But neither groups in the study are aware as to whether they have been given the placebo or the actual supplement that is being tested.
so really a placebo is used vs. "real supplement" when a study is conducted to compare the results achieved. To see if the "real supplement" is really beneficial.
I hope this helps
CONTROLLED LABS
11-21-2008, 11:57 AM
I would have to say white flood, the new NO-Xplode isn't as strong as it use to be..
glad to hear it :)
+1. There is no doubt that white flood is an amazing product. My gains were beginning to get pretty small, but once I started taking WF preworkout, my gains went through the roof. I would recommend it to anyone. I do get the BA tingles, but I like that feeling. This stuff keeps me wanting to work out!
excellent, thanks for your feedback :)
went to GNC (ehh) to buy some wf. didnt have it, so i purchased a 800gm tub of sp250. yesterday was my 2nd day using sp250. so far so good. I have a friend who purchased some Black powder a week ago, and decided its not for him. we made a deal for $20. Ima try the Black after sp250.. see which ones better.
many GNC stores have white flood, all vitamin shoppe stores carry it as well.
kwanthony187
11-21-2008, 12:25 PM
sounds great. nothing in pw should make you anxious
I took one scoop of purple wraath today during my workout and 1 1/2 scoops of white flood before. It was probably the best cardio day i had so far. I didnt feel like stopping. Also got a decent leg workout. I felt alright too. I'm just not going to over do the dosage. 1 scoop of each is good enough for me.
CONTROLLED LABS
11-21-2008, 05:37 PM
I took one scoop of purple wraath today during my workout and 1 1/2 scoops of white flood before. It was probably the best cardio day i had so far. I didnt feel like stopping. Also got a decent leg workout. I felt alright too. I'm just not going to over do the dosage. 1 scoop of each is good enough for me.
Excellent, they really do get that endurance way up
Hammer of Thor
11-21-2008, 11:21 PM
I love White Flood. The face tingles and the natural feeling energy boost make it perfect. I use it for my most intense workout days. I havent tried the tablets yet, but I will soon enough. If I wasnt laid off I would get some PW as well.
KomEn
11-22-2008, 07:39 AM
definitly not Nanox9.....
neverlift702
11-22-2008, 11:48 AM
many GNC stores have white flood, all vitamin shoppe stores carry it as well.
I wish my local gnc's carried it. I have a vitamin shoppe a couple minutes away but every time I buy a tub of white flood from the powder in the bottom of the container is always chunky almost like they weren't storing it properly.
Here's my latest review on a NO product and what I feel as the best NO product on the market.
Being the NO product addict that I am I had to try VPX's NOSHOTGUN. From all indications it was an excellent product that produced good results. Well From day one I could tell that my pumps and vascularity were the best they have ever been on any NO product. Along with the amazing pumps and vasc it gave me a mild headache and stomach ache. About 10 minutes after taking the full 1 scoop serving I felt the need to completely **** my ass everywhere but I've experienced that before with others so it wasn't a huge surprise or problem as long as a toilet was accessible so I could poo before I trained. People talked about the amazing energy it gave you and I never experienced that either. So for myself I don't believe Noshotgun is for me, the head and stomach aches were enough to disrupt my training and the level of intensity.
My current vote for best NO product is STILL white flood. It's given me amazing pumps, vascularity and bumped my training intensity to the roof! I feel like I could train all day every day even at the peak of muscle failure my mind still wants to keep going.
CONTROLLED LABS
11-22-2008, 02:39 PM
I love White Flood. The face tingles and the natural feeling energy boost make it perfect. I use it for my most intense workout days. I havent tried the tablets yet, but I will soon enough. If I wasnt laid off I would get some PW as well.
awesome, i love the tingles too, it really pushes my intensity up a few notches
I wish my local gnc's carried it. I have a vitamin shoppe a couple minutes away but every time I buy a tub of white flood from the powder in the bottom of the container is always chunky almost like they weren't storing it properly.
Here's my latest review on a NO product and what I feel as the best NO product on the market.
Being the NO product addict that I am I had to try VPX's NOSHOTGUN. From all indications it was an excellent product that produced good results. Well From day one I could tell that my pumps and vascularity were the best they have ever been on any NO product. Along with the amazing pumps and vasc it gave me a mild headache and stomach ache. About 10 minutes after taking the full 1 scoop serving I felt the need to completely **** my ass everywhere but I've experienced that before with others so it wasn't a huge surprise or problem as long as a toilet was accessible so I could poo before I trained. People talked about the amazing energy it gave you and I never experienced that either. So for myself I don't believe Noshotgun is for me, the head and stomach aches were enough to disrupt my training and the level of intensity.
My current vote for best NO product is STILL white flood. It's given me amazing pumps, vascularity and bumped my training intensity to the roof! I feel like I could train all day every day even at the peak of muscle failure my mind still wants to keep going.
yeah, vitamin shoppe has a great price on it, but get it from bb.com, its even cheaper on here :)
HERNANSE
11-22-2008, 05:30 PM
Ive been taking Nitric EFX for the past two weeks, but was woundering if plasma jet would work the best. So whats the best product. For creatine i am taking Kre-alkayline, another EFX product. Help Please
DubStud
11-23-2008, 12:01 PM
can you mix purple wraath and green mag together and take them together ...pre-workout??
gogators222
11-23-2008, 12:09 PM
Animal Pump- red pill is by far the best non-stim pre-wo NO I have ever used!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arnold11
11-23-2008, 01:41 PM
super pump250 or no xplode??
simpleguy
11-24-2008, 09:07 AM
super pump250 or no xplode??
imo (and most would agree) SP250 is better
Sanderzak
11-24-2008, 09:46 AM
In terms of my workout, White Flood is amazing, but it doesn't increase my vascularity at all. Should I add a non stim like Nitrix to my supplement list for vascularity purposes?
The Gasman UK
11-24-2008, 09:49 AM
I prefer SP250 as I like just a bit of caffiene and its easy to measure:
1 scoop 85mg of caffiene.
2 scoops 170mg
3 scoops 255mg
So depending on how much 'boost' i feel i need, is how much I take.
Normal 1.5- 2 scoops.
And SP250 tastes really nice and tangy, unlike some other nox products e.g. Dorian yates Yuck! But D.yates nox is f'in powerful !!
simpleguy
11-24-2008, 10:01 AM
I prefer SP250 as I like just a bit of caffiene and its easy to measure:
1 scoop 85mg of caffiene.
2 scoops 170mg
3 scoops 255mg
So depending on how much 'boost' i feel i need, is how much I take.
Normal 1.5- 2 scoops.
And SP250 tastes really nice and tangy, unlike some other nox products e.g. Dorian yates Yuck! But D.yates nox is f'in powerful !!
where did you get that? I saw in some threads it has 100mg per scoop
CONTROLLED LABS
11-24-2008, 11:05 AM
can you mix purple wraath and green mag together and take them together ...pre-workout??
you can, but for max effects take green mag pre and purple wraath intra workout
In terms of my workout, White Flood is amazing, but it doesn't increase my vascularity at all. Should I add a non stim like Nitrix to my supplement list for vascularity purposes?
what is your bf%? and how much water are you taking in?
claudiovon
11-24-2008, 12:28 PM
I am taking white flood and loving it. I wanna try others CL products: Glycergrow, PW and Green Mag. Is it too much stack those 4 supps?
The best way to use them is mixing white flood and Green Mag in the pre-workout and mixing PW and Glycergrow intra and post-workout?
Do I have to cycle only white flood and Green Mag or PW and Glycergrow too?
Thanks
naturalguy
11-24-2008, 12:31 PM
Animal Pump- red pill is by far the best non-stim pre-wo NO I have ever used!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Animal Pump's is different then other formulas in that it is not heavily reliant on caffeine. Also you have the option of leaving out the stims or not, the only product that you can do that with.
gridironwarrior
11-24-2008, 05:17 PM
Pump and Shock Therapy together... minus red stim
CONTROLLED LABS
11-24-2008, 07:02 PM
I am taking white flood and loving it. I wanna try others CL products: Glycergrow, PW and Green Mag. Is it too much stack those 4 supps?
The best way to use them is mixing white flood and Green Mag in the pre-workout and mixing PW and Glycergrow intra and post-workout?
Do I have to cycle only white flood and Green Mag or PW and Glycergrow too?
Thanks
yes, white flood and green magnitude mixed and taken preworkout is best. that stack is fine and isnt too much.
white flood should be cycled off for 1 weeks after each tub
AnEn1gma
11-24-2008, 09:25 PM
I've been lifting for around 5 years. Taking NO Xplode really changed my life in terms of intensity in the gym. With all the hype surrounding White Flood, Green Mag and Purple Wrath I decided to buy all three.
I typically take half doses of NO Xplode. GREAT stuff....I feel invincible and it really help my motivation. It does begin to wear off toward the end, but I leave the gym feeling on top of the world.
I tried a full dose of White Flood today. Not as jittery as NO Xplode makes me, but the concentration wasn't as good nor was pump. That being said, sometimes NO Xplode is a little too much. When I do high intensity (like 600lbs leg presses), i feel like im going to pass out haha. Before anyone gets on me about thinking 600lbs is a lot.....it is to me, especially 3-4 sets FULL reps....
Purple Wrath mixed with NO Xplode seems to boost my endurance and desire to stay in the gym as the Xplode wears off.
I haven't taken a full dose of Green Mag yet. I just ordered some SuperPump250 to give that a shot and let you guys know what I think.
I appreciate everyone's reviews......it def helps with the 23057252857285 products out there.
I owe it to CL to give an update on White Flood.
I began taking full doses of both WF and GM over the past couple workouts as the NO Xplode "jitters" were getting to me. SP250 is better, but it's the same idea.
Taking full doses of WF mixed with GM is giving me great intensity in the gym without the "I drank too much coffee and might pass out" feeling. The other thing I noticed is that there is no caffeine crash towards the end of the workout. It's really like liquid concentration to me at this point.
I quit taking PW as it was making me a little queasy mid workout. I think it was just the amount of liquid and the sweet taste.
All I can say is that if you're used to the caffeine rush of NoXplode, I would say lay off the caffeine during the day and try WF and GM over a few weeks. From what I can tell lately, its really great stuff. I was BEAT today getting off work, but as soon as I sipped on that mix, I was ready to beat it up in the gym and really had a great workout.
I will update again as I notice differences, issues, etc.
The Shoeless Wonder
11-24-2008, 09:50 PM
has anyone tried plasma jet?
honky619
11-24-2008, 10:26 PM
i love my juggernaut, it gets me going good for atleast a hour and a half.
Now hypershock is another story. Its supposed to be a 8 hour time release, and it worked well, too well actually... didnt get much sleep that night lol
slimlim808
11-24-2008, 10:30 PM
The feedback we get on it is amazing:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=902775
Animal products are for those 18 and over however.
why is animal pump only for 18 and older?
i take it and im only 15. should i stop taking it and take white flood, green mag, and purple wraath instead???
BUFFY
11-24-2008, 11:11 PM
My two tubs of White Flood just arrived from bodybuilding.com today. I haven't tried many other NO products, but this stuff is definitely good.
wobemaster
11-25-2008, 03:27 AM
Presurge
It works (crazy pumps, also quite different in feeling), it's backed by science and no BS ingredients.
It's good stuff IMO
naturalguy
11-25-2008, 03:34 AM
why is animal pump only for 18 and older?
i take it and im only 15. should i stop taking it and take white flood, green mag, and purple wraath instead???
We won't recommend our products to those under 18.
Supplements like Animal Pump are not needed at your age. You should be learning how to train properly and eat right. After several years of this then you can look into supplements to help push you past plateaus.
CONTROLLED LABS
11-25-2008, 01:56 PM
I owe it to CL to give an update on White Flood.
I began taking full doses of both WF and GM over the past couple workouts as the NO Xplode "jitters" were getting to me. SP250 is better, but it's the same idea.
Taking full doses of WF mixed with GM is giving me great intensity in the gym without the "I drank too much coffee and might pass out" feeling. The other thing I noticed is that there is no caffeine crash towards the end of the workout. It's really like liquid concentration to me at this point.
I quit taking PW as it was making me a little queasy mid workout. I think it was just the amount of liquid and the sweet taste.
All I can say is that if you're used to the caffeine rush of NoXplode, I would say lay off the caffeine during the day and try WF and GM over a few weeks. From what I can tell lately, its really great stuff. I was BEAT today getting off work, but as soon as I sipped on that mix, I was ready to beat it up in the gym and really had a great workout.
I will update again as I notice differences, issues, etc.
excellent, thanks for the update. if need be, you can mix the purple wraath with the others and take it pre
My two tubs of White Flood just arrived from bodybuilding.com today. I haven't tried many other NO products, but this stuff is definitely good.
awesome, looking forward to your feedback
MattZ260
11-25-2008, 01:57 PM
NO Shotgun.
deserusan
11-25-2008, 03:56 PM
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IronG
11-25-2008, 09:52 PM
I prefer SP250 as I like just a bit of caffiene and its easy to measure:
1 scoop 85mg of caffiene.
2 scoops 170mg
3 scoops 255mg
So depending on how much 'boost' i feel i need, is how much I take.
Normal 1.5- 2 scoops.
And SP250 tastes really nice and tangy, unlike some other nox products e.g. Dorian yates Yuck! But D.yates nox is f'in powerful !!
How do you know how much caffiene is in Superpump? I pretty sure that the exact amount is not listed on the indredients....it's just listed as "proprietary blend."
BMA17
11-25-2008, 11:38 PM
wait so is taking Sp250 like taking PW and WF?
CONTROLLED LABS
11-26-2008, 06:35 AM
wait so is taking Sp250 like taking PW and WF?
it would be in the same main category as white flood
deserusan
11-26-2008, 06:43 AM
wait so is taking Sp250 like taking PW and WF?
Superpump250 does contain BCAA's. Request a sample if you haven't already. I believe Grape Cooler is in stock right now.
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BMA17
11-26-2008, 11:20 AM
Would it be ok to stack Sp250 with PW
deserusan
11-26-2008, 11:37 AM
Would it be ok to stack Sp250 with PW
Certainly. Taste wise, Raspberry Lemonade and Lemon Burst go pretty well with it.
CONTROLLED LABS
11-26-2008, 01:40 PM
Would it be ok to stack Sp250 with PW
sure, sp250 and purple wraath are fine together, but to get the max benefits use sp250 pre and purple wraath intraworkout
BMA17
11-26-2008, 03:12 PM
alright then thanks. gonna be looking forward to getting some PW when i get paid this week
SHOWTIME
11-26-2008, 04:14 PM
Presurge
It works (crazy pumps, also quite different in feeling), it's backed by science and no BS ingredients.
It's good stuff IMO
I agree, here is the bottle for those wondering which product he is talking about.
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Dedicated37
11-26-2008, 04:17 PM
I agree, here is the bottle for those wondering which product he is talking about.
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If anyone here is interested in PreSurge by AEN
Soon we will be offering samples, so keep your eyes open in the company promo section.
As well if you join up on our website and forum you can hear about samples and special offers before anyone else.
AEN forum (http://aenutrition.com/forums/index.php)
Nice!
I have 2 questions for you:
1. When is the combo of IntrAbolic + IntraXcell + Presurge going to be available on bodybuilding.com for a combo price?
2. Do you have any samples of PreSurge available?
CONTROLLED LABS
11-26-2008, 06:44 PM
alright then thanks. gonna be looking forward to getting some PW when i get paid this week
sounds great, which flavor will you be going with?
dmbphan041
11-26-2008, 07:40 PM
sure, sp250 and purple wraath are fine together, but to get the max benefits use sp250 pre and purple wraath intraworkout
together in the same bottle?
hmmm
BMA17
11-26-2008, 08:09 PM
sounds great, which flavor will you be going with?
well if I take it intra workout an not with sp250. Which is better by itself?
khergan
11-26-2008, 09:21 PM
I agree, here is the bottle for those wondering which product he is talking about.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/IntraXCell/PreSurgenogrey.jpg
If anyone here is interested in PreSurge by AEN
Soon we will be offering samples, so keep your eyes open in the company promo section.
As well if you join up on our website and forum you can hear about samples and special offers before anyone else.
AEN forum (http://aenutrition.com/forums/index.php)
x2. Presurge is the best PWO NO product I've tried to date. Definitely look into a sample pack if you haven't already.
1HAWAIIAN
11-26-2008, 09:42 PM
Kind of late but, I've tried n.o. x-plode and it's good. Also used one called "FUZION" and that works really good. SP250 is a waste of time and money, you spend almost the same amount of time on the john as you do in the gym.
BenRea
11-26-2008, 10:36 PM
you spend almost the same amount of time on the john as you do in the gym.
superDUMP250, muahahahahhahahha
(i heard its called that cuz you end up taking 250lb ****s....thats more than you can deadlift.)
Dedicated37
11-27-2008, 12:07 AM
superDUMP250, muahahahahhahahha
(i heard its called that cuz you end up taking 250lb ****s....thats more than you can deadlift.)
LOL!
AnEn1gma
11-27-2008, 01:49 AM
superDUMP250, muahahahahhahahha
(i heard its called that cuz you end up taking 250lb ****s....thats more than you can deadlift.)
That's because it used to contain too much magnesium.....which they fixed.
Weird.....who would have thought you were 18.
CONTROLLED LABS
11-27-2008, 07:35 AM
together in the same bottle?
hmmm
sp250 preworkout and purple wraath intraworkout, that means two separate shakers.
well if I take it intra workout an not with sp250. Which is better by itself?
dont understand the question.
BMA17
11-27-2008, 09:23 AM
sp250 preworkout and purple wraath intraworkout, that means two separate shakers.
dont understand the question.
oh my bad. if i take intra workout and not pre workout. whats the better flavor to take if i am not mixing with anything.
rgrrt
11-27-2008, 11:16 AM
Nos by body fortress at wal-mart, taste better and works better than no-explode and nano vapor, really does cost less also. Does anyone know why no-explode and nano vapor taste soooooooo bad?
CONTROLLED LABS
11-28-2008, 11:42 AM
oh my bad. if i take intra workout and not pre workout. whats the better flavor to take if i am not mixing with anything.
of purple wraath? I am loving the lemonade right now, but the grape is awesome too, you cant go wrong.
SykosouL
11-28-2008, 07:58 PM
I haven't seen anyone talk about Muscle-Rxm, is it no good? I seen a review about it saying that its better then no xplode, I was just wondering what u thought.
simpleguy
11-28-2008, 09:34 PM
I haven't seen anyone talk about Muscle-Rxm, is it no good? I seen a review about it saying that its better then no xplode, I was just wondering what u thought.
there are many pre w/o supps better then no explode :p
05impalaSS
11-28-2008, 10:02 PM
of purple wraath? I am loving the lemonade right now, but the grape is awesome too, you cant go wrong.
I had some of the Grape, I ended up selling for 10 bucks.... I couldnt stand the Aftertaste ... But I do like WF and GM.... I have been contemplating GG but Im skeptical... I have read what its supposed to do but I am being ignorant.. can you break it down to me barny style?
CONTROLLED LABS
11-29-2008, 06:15 AM
I had some of the Grape, I ended up selling for 10 bucks.... I couldnt stand the Aftertaste ... But I do like WF and GM.... I have been contemplating GG but Im skeptical... I have read what its supposed to do but I am being ignorant.. can you break it down to me barny style?
you should give a lemonade sample a shot then, nothing to lose.
gg is a cell volumizer and will help with the shrink wrapped look as well, for more detail check up the writeup on controlledlabs.com
DCHammer
11-29-2008, 08:54 AM
I work out immediately after work every day which means taking my pre-workout drink around 4-4:30. This means horrible sleeping at night if I take anything with caffeine in it.
I've used Muscle Asylum's Altered State, MuscleTech naNOx9, picked up some Body Fortress NO Booster tabs when I was travelling in the US, and most recently took SP250.
As you can expect, Altered State and SP250 kept me from sleeping. I'm extremely susceptible to stimulants. If my schedule allowed me to train in the AM, it would be ok because they'd be burnt off before it was time to crash at the end of the day.
So after all the typing, the question is this:
What's the best NO booster without caffeine in it? And restrict the answers to products that are available in Canada please.
King Jug
11-29-2008, 10:23 AM
White Flood is by far the best. I've never tried anything that comes close. Not even SuperPump.
simpleguy
11-29-2008, 11:51 AM
I work out immediately after work every day which means taking my pre-workout drink around 4-4:30. This means horrible sleeping at night if I take anything with caffeine in it.
I've used Muscle Asylum's Altered State, MuscleTech naNOx9, picked up some Body Fortress NO Booster tabs when I was travelling in the US, and most recently took SP250.
As you can expect, Altered State and SP250 kept me from sleeping. I'm extremely susceptible to stimulants. If my schedule allowed me to train in the AM, it would be ok because they'd be burnt off before it was time to crash at the end of the day.
So after all the typing, the question is this:
What's the best NO booster without caffeine in it? And restrict the answers to products that are available in Canada please.
imo I'd have to say animal pump... just have all the pills except the red one which is the stims capsule
Arnold11
11-30-2008, 04:31 PM
Tried No explode for the first time friday... everything went to plan.. took 1 scoop , went to gym and.. they said there was a air con problem.. so I had to wait 45 mins while I was on edge sitting down wanting to push some weight!..by the time I went into the gym I was dealing with a caffeine crash...and the gym was so cold below - im sure..I still experienced increase in focus and strength but I was gasping for my breath(and im not fat) cause of the caffeine..hopefully things won't be bad tomorrow ill try it out again
CONTROLLED LABS
11-30-2008, 08:18 PM
I work out immediately after work every day which means taking my pre-workout drink around 4-4:30. This means horrible sleeping at night if I take anything with caffeine in it.
I've used Muscle Asylum's Altered State, MuscleTech naNOx9, picked up some Body Fortress NO Booster tabs when I was travelling in the US, and most recently took SP250.
As you can expect, Altered State and SP250 kept me from sleeping. I'm extremely susceptible to stimulants. If my schedule allowed me to train in the AM, it would be ok because they'd be burnt off before it was time to crash at the end of the day.
So after all the typing, the question is this:
What's the best NO booster without caffeine in it? And restrict the answers to products that are available in Canada please.
white blood capsules are stimulant free and perfect for those who work out close to bed time, check them out
White Flood is by far the best. I've never tried anything that comes close. Not even SuperPump.
glad to hear you are loving white flood. have you gotten the opportunity to try the new white flood tablets yet?
I am a huge fan of SP250, it has been a great product for me stacked with SizeOn, however I placed an order for PW,WF and GM today as I feel that the feedback here is so positive that I may be taking oppertunities away from myself by not at least trying this stack. I'm planning to drink WF pre and mix PW and GM intra workout, however I do have a question for CL.
Which supps and in what quantity would you recommend for me on non-training days and should both PW and GM be taken in full dose when combined?
Cheers.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-01-2008, 10:55 AM
I am a huge fan of SP250, it has been a great product for me stacked with SizeOn, however I placed an order for PW,WF and GM today as I feel that the feedback here is so positive that I may be taking oppertunities away from myself by not at least trying this stack. I'm planning to drink WF pre and mix PW and GM intra workout, however I do have a question for CL.
Which supps and in what quantity would you recommend for me on non-training days and should both PW and GM be taken in full dose when combined?
Cheers.
thanks for giving us a shot, I dont think you will be dissapointed :)
take them like this:
training days:
white flood and green magnitude mixed in a single shake with 20-30 ounces of water and a granola bar or rice cake eaten around the same time.
purple wraath taken during the workout (1-3 servings)
non-training days:
green magnitude taken anytime
purple wraath taken during cardio if you do cardio on off days
no white flood.
IUPUI
12-01-2008, 10:58 AM
I have tried No-Xplode, SuperPump250, and now trying Shock Therapy. I would say so far I like Shock Therapy the most. Things I did not like is the instant laxitive effect given by both No-Xplode and SumperPump250. I feel more of a mental focus with Shock Therapy which I like. I don't get that with NO-Xplode and SP250. Sometimes I get alot of energy from these supplements and sometimes I don't. I think that probably frustrates me the most.
naturalguy
12-01-2008, 11:10 AM
I have tried No-Xplode, SuperPump250, and now trying Shock Therapy. I would say so far I like Shock Therapy the most. Things I did not like is the instant laxitive effect given by both No-Xplode and SumperPump250. I feel more of a mental focus with Shock Therapy which I like. I don't get that with NO-Xplode and SP250. Sometimes I get alot of energy from these supplements and sometimes I don't. I think that probably frustrates me the most.
The increased focus with Shock Therapy is a great benefit.
claudiovon
12-01-2008, 12:09 PM
CONTROLLED LABS
Most of companies suggest to take their NO2 with a empty stomach. Why white flood is different?
VoiceOfReason_
12-01-2008, 12:31 PM
So i've taken SP250, NO Shotgun and WF now and i've come to one question.
What exactly are NO supposed to do because each of the aforementioned products did something completely different for me.
SP250 did as advertised and gave me great pumps, yet not the crazy rush NO Shotgun did.
WF gives me some energy, some pump, but more of an endurance throughout my workout..
I prefer SP250 me thinks.
Masterdeb8tr
12-01-2008, 12:40 PM
i just had a dose of a freinds nano x9 and i got a great pump off it, not sure about more energy though. Its been a while since i got that feeling. I have taken x9 in the past but moved on to try other stuff (black, nano vapor,xplode). I am currently on white flood still but it does not give me a pump at all. I get tingles and energy (i think) but no pumps. also i could not mix it with green mag or i would not feel a thing. I have tested this over 2 weeks if i take wf solo and GM solo its ok.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-01-2008, 01:18 PM
CONTROLLED LABS
Most of companies suggest to take their NO2 with a empty stomach. Why white flood is different?
you CAN take it on an empty stomach, but most prefer it with a small carb meal, it helps coat the stomach and makes the energy more sustained.
i just had a dose of a freinds nano x9 and i got a great pump off it, not sure about more energy though. Its been a while since i got that feeling. I have taken x9 in the past but moved on to try other stuff (black, nano vapor,xplode). I am currently on white flood still but it does not give me a pump at all. I get tingles and energy (i think) but no pumps. also i could not mix it with green mag or i would not feel a thing. I have tested this over 2 weeks if i take wf solo and GM solo its ok.
sounds like you should cycle off of white flood and all stimulants for 1-2 weeks and then jump back on :)
CONTROLLED LABS
Most of companies suggest to take their NO2 with a empty stomach. Why white flood is different?
Gaspari is an exception to this rule, it recommends that you take SP 250 with a small meal (particularly on first use). Personally I have found no difference in ho SP250 "feels" regardless of what you take it with. But that is my experience yours may be different.
arshah
12-01-2008, 03:10 PM
so far i've only tried VPX NO Shotgun and Gaspari SP250. The Shotgun was wonderful, i got a great pump and was totally focused, however it was not great on energy. The SP250 did not produce the same results in the gym though, the pump was not so good, energy wise it was fantastic, but i have to agree with the fact that it is superdump, also it was too much caffeine for me in only one serving, i'm a small guy and it gave me muscle spasms after my workout, like my muscle wouldn't stop twitching. Vascularity wise they could both do better. I'm looking into getting WF from controlled, i've been hearing great things about it, but for now i'm sticking with the Shotgun
Masterdeb8tr
12-01-2008, 03:10 PM
sounds like you should cycle off of white flood and all stimulants for 1-2 weeks and then jump back on :)
i just started WF (1st time) after 6+months off any supps stims. I take wf every other day. drink only water and a glass of red wine a day. So i dont think i built my tolerance so quickly.
the only thing maybe my size? 6'5 235# 2 scoops may not be enough to get a pump?
TylerB
12-01-2008, 03:28 PM
I havent posted in a while and I've been thinking about buying a different NO preworkout supp...
I've tried SP250, Rag, Shotgun, and Animal Pump.
By far Ragnarok was my favorite but I cycled off for about a month and wanna try something new. I hear great things about JP8 except the taste....
CONTROLLED LABS
12-01-2008, 07:28 PM
so far i've only tried VPX NO Shotgun and Gaspari SP250. The Shotgun was wonderful, i got a great pump and was totally focused, however it was not great on energy. The SP250 did not produce the same results in the gym though, the pump was not so good, energy wise it was fantastic, but i have to agree with the fact that it is superdump, also it was too much caffeine for me in only one serving, i'm a small guy and it gave me muscle spasms after my workout, like my muscle wouldn't stop twitching. Vascularity wise they could both do better. I'm looking into getting WF from controlled, i've been hearing great things about it, but for now i'm sticking with the Shotgun
thanks for giving us a shot with white flood, you can get free samples of the white flood tablets now (see link in my signature below for details)
Biggle213
12-01-2008, 08:01 PM
Just wanted to give a quick review on Superpump250. This was the first NO product that I tried, and I found it to be very effective if taken with a small meal about 30-40 minutes PRE-workout. The first day I tried it, I found that my focus on deadlifts was incredible and I was definitely able to pump out a few more lifts than usual. I also had a high energy throughout my entire workout. This was a plus. As far as the "superdump" is concerned, I only had one bad occurrence with this. I pounded a 2 scoop mixture like 2 minutes before my workout, and had some stomach troubles. I'm just glad it wasn't squat/leg day haha (coulda gotten messy if you know what I mean).
Container ran dry a couple days ago. Gonna give White Flood a go tomorrow and see what it does for my performance, energy, etc.
BlackV62K2
12-02-2008, 05:39 AM
I've been using SP250 for awhile and love the product although not being able to get a proper night sleep on days that I take it is starting to take a toll on my work the next day. The amount I take doesn't seem to matter as well, 1.5-3 scoops and I'll be up all night. I usually take it around 5-5:30PM since I can only head to the gym at about 6PM on days I train. Are there any NO products out there that is as effective but wont cause me to stay awake all night?
Biggle213
12-02-2008, 07:20 AM
I've been using SP250 for awhile and love the product although not being able to get a proper night sleep on days that I take it is starting to take a toll on my work the next day. The amount I take doesn't seem to matter as well, 1.5-3 scoops and I'll be up all night. I usually take it around 5-5:30PM since I can only head to the gym at about 6PM on days I train. Are there any NO products out there that is as effective but wont cause me to stay awake all night?
Hey there,
I am definitely having this sleep problem as well. Gonna second his question.
cwooten30
12-02-2008, 11:40 AM
Nobody ever talks about Cellucor M5??? probably cause its too expensive blah blah, but as far as effecitveness hands the best pre workout supplement.
Great pumps and Endurance and the best Recovery Time. I bust my ace off for 2 hours a day 5 days a week and every day feels like a new day no soreness.
If you try it Let me know what you think
mafiamoto
12-02-2008, 02:51 PM
I can't see how anyone can use BSN NO Xplode after their lawsuit for adding fraud ingredients. check it out..
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mafiamoto
12-02-2008, 02:52 PM
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mafiamoto
12-02-2008, 02:53 PM
this site blows, buy your stuff from *** nutrition or *********, it is cheaper and you don't have to deal with BS like this.. this site is way over rated.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-02-2008, 03:05 PM
Container ran dry a couple days ago. Gonna give White Flood a go tomorrow and see what it does for my performance, energy, etc.
did you get the free white flood tablet samples or did you buy a container of the powder?
palanilopez12
12-02-2008, 03:20 PM
CONTROLLED LABS
Most of companies suggest to take their NO2 with a empty stomach. Why white flood is different?
i personally dont have to take anything with it like a granola bar or anything like that...but that's just me....i've tried sp250...no explode...nano vapor...and a gnc brand one and WF for me is the best...loyal controlled labs user
Biggle213
12-02-2008, 03:23 PM
did you get the free white flood tablet samples or did you buy a container of the powder?
I went to GNC today to buy the powder but....the salespeople at GNC told me that they'd never heard of white flood before, so at the moment i'm kinda SOL for powder.
claudiovon
12-02-2008, 05:19 PM
I have been using WF and now I wanna buy Purple Wraath but I have a doubt.
I am used to take Isopure and it contains more than 14 grams of BCAA per serving. There are all of the aminos too. What is the advantage to take Purple Wraath if Isopure or any other good whey protein contains almost the same quantity and type of aminos and BCAA'S?
CONTROLLED LABS
12-02-2008, 05:21 PM
i personally dont have to take anything with it like a granola bar or anything like that...but that's just me....i've tried sp250...no explode...nano vapor...and a gnc brand one and WF for me is the best...loyal controlled labs user
awesome, thanks for your loyalty. please see the loyalty thread in my signature below for details on how to get free CL gear and products :)
I went to GNC today to buy the powder but....the salespeople at GNC told me that they'd never heard of white flood before, so at the moment i'm kinda SOL for powder.
better prices on this website, but most gnc stores (corporate and franchise) should have white flood on the shelf. the ones that dont can request it for you and order it in to their store
Masterdeb8tr
12-02-2008, 05:36 PM
I went to GNC today to buy the powder but....the salespeople at GNC told me that they'd never heard of white flood before, so at the moment i'm kinda SOL for powder.
the gnc store near me did not carry it either and the one in the local mall said they did not carry it or know what it was (or even controlled labs)told them it was a nitric product and it was not in that section but looking around found the store found tubs next to green mag and purple W tubs.I normally would not buy from them but could not wait for my next order. At least it was the first week of the month
CONTROLLED LABS
12-02-2008, 06:11 PM
the gnc store near me did not carry it either and the one in the local mall said they did not carry it or know what it was (or even controlled labs)told them it was a nitric product and it was not in that section but looking around found the store found tubs next to green mag and purple W tubs.I normally would not buy from them but could not wait for my next order. At least it was the first week of the month
true, some of the employees are clueless unless a product gives them a 5 dollar commission ;)
RandallH19891
12-02-2008, 06:11 PM
the gnc store near me did not carry it either and the one in the local mall said they did not carry it or know what it was (or even controlled labs)told them it was a nitric product and it was not in that section but looking around found the store found tubs next to green mag and purple W tubs.I normally would not buy from them but could not wait for my next order. At least it was the first week of the month
I could never find CL products at GNCs, but I know the Vitamin Shoppe carries them, and at more reasonable prices! I feel like I can either shop at GNC and get a decent deal with my Gold card, or just go to Vitamin Shoppe and get it at the "Gold Card" price that it already should be at!
Also, the Vitamin Shoppe tends to carry more products, especially from of the higher quality manufacturers. I saw Mass FX there, but never saw it at GNC. IMO GNC is kind of a consumer name band whore store where people go to gain 10 lbs. of muscle in 10 days. ;)
Younggun111
12-02-2008, 06:59 PM
I prefer not toe waste money on this product, after using about 3 grams of straight L-Arginine(Now's) before workouts and seeing the same results that I did with the Pinnacle NOx2 I was taking.
I have however noticed better recovery in general from this product...and pinnacles
What are your views on MRI NO2? ive heard its great, then i hear its a huge waste of money. Isn't it basically just arginine?
xh8mex
12-02-2008, 07:52 PM
better prices on this website, but most gnc stores (corporate and franchise) should have white flood on the shelf. the ones that dont can request it for you and order it in to their store
All GNCs here don't carry it and my manager told us we can't order it to our store... It is one of the items where you can order it in the store and GNC ships it to your house.
Younggun111
12-02-2008, 08:38 PM
All GNCs here don't carry it and my manager told us we can't order it to our store... It is one of the items where you can order it in the store and GNC ships it to your house.
Why? what is the reason for something so ridiculous?
xh8mex
12-03-2008, 07:58 AM
I'm not sure... I asked her if we could have some in store when I first started working there and she said we can't do special orders.. The only way we can get something we don't usually have is if we transfer it from a store and we don't usually do that either.
Edit - it looks like some stores carry it but the closest store is like 280 miles away from me...
CONTROLLED LABS
12-03-2008, 08:03 PM
All GNCs here don't carry it and my manager told us we can't order it to our store... It is one of the items where you can order it in the store and GNC ships it to your house.
that is odd, there shouldnt be any reason she cant get it in. franchise or corporate?
xh8mex
12-03-2008, 08:12 PM
Corporate I believe.
kgochenour
12-03-2008, 09:25 PM
I don't think my GNC carries it either, I'll take a look tomorrow.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-04-2008, 01:58 PM
I don't think my GNC carries it either, I'll take a look tomorrow.
ask them to get it in if they dont have it on shelf. many may not know about it since we just shipped about 6 weeks ago
tjs98gt
12-04-2008, 02:02 PM
ive never seen any controlled labs products at any of the gncs around here.
240kat
12-04-2008, 04:49 PM
ive never seen any controlled labs products at any of the gncs around here.
the tiny gnc on base has white flood, green mag and purple wraath.
Lifter4Life59
12-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Just finished my shock therapy last week, ordered white flood two days ago should be here soon and cant wait to try it! Have heard amazing things about it, if any of you are interested in shock though i do recommend it, gave me good focus, and some nice pumps, not so much energy booster and I would definitely say the fruit punch is probably better, I had the grape flavor and it was kind of gross, other than that not bad for just 30 bucks and 50 servings. I will post my feedback on white flood next week!
CONTROLLED LABS
12-04-2008, 06:29 PM
ive never seen any controlled labs products at any of the gncs around here.
check again, we just got into the chain and if your particular one doesnt have it, then request from the manager that they bring it in :)
the tiny gnc on base has white flood, green mag and purple wraath.
awesome, that is a popular store and sells a ton of product :)
Just finished my shock therapy last week, ordered white flood two days ago should be here soon and cant wait to try it! Have heard amazing things about it, if any of you are interested in shock though i do recommend it, gave me good focus, and some nice pumps, not so much energy booster and I would definitely say the fruit punch is probably better, I had the grape flavor and it was kind of gross, other than that not bad for just 30 bucks and 50 servings. I will post my feedback on white flood next week!
awesome to hear. if you were just on st, then cycle off of it and all stims for at least 10 days before starting white flood.
kgochenour
12-04-2008, 08:02 PM
ask them to get it in if they dont have it on shelf. many may not know about it since we just shipped about 6 weeks ago
I just bought it off this website instead, cant beat the price here! It should be here tomorrow, which is super quick. But I'll double check the two GNCs around here when I go to work tomorrow.
kennyc123
12-04-2008, 08:22 PM
im currently on mri black powder and im pretty happy with it
camarosl2187
12-04-2008, 09:34 PM
NO shotgun is by far my fav. I used NO explode before and it wore off. I'm on my 4th container of shotgun and it still works great. If you can deal w/the taste then I'd recommend it to anyone.
xHoward
12-05-2008, 06:35 AM
Just got super pump yesterday. Tried one scoop and got no effect from it :(.
It did taste great though!
Should I just try two scoops next time? I took it on an empty stomach BTW.
msauka
12-05-2008, 02:57 PM
Give supplements time to kick in.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-05-2008, 07:16 PM
I just bought it off this website instead, cant beat the price here! It should be here tomorrow, which is super quick. But I'll double check the two GNCs around here when I go to work tomorrow.
sounds good, cant beat the service/price combo at bb.com :)
Just got super pump yesterday. Tried one scoop and got no effect from it :(.
It did taste great though!
Should I just try two scoops next time? I took it on an empty stomach BTW.
Stay at one and take it with cold water on an empty stomach a full 30-40 minutes before you workout. Do complete warm-ups and you should feel the muscle pump effect.
ko_kidd
12-06-2008, 05:37 AM
I think a majority of people taking it (myself included) feel a pump and/or pins-and-needles feeling from it.
I definitely get both most of the time.
svt_Nick69
12-06-2008, 04:31 PM
For me, the best out there is by far the no-xplode. My mental focus is so much more amped since i started using it! Ten minutes after taking it, i'm ready to lift right out of the gym! I've been using no-xplode for 2 weeks now and pumps are really tight. I'm actually starting to see the veins on my biceps start to stick out and i've increased my bench from 265 to 275lbs. Not trying to sound like an infomercial guy.... but it really works for me.
I tried N.O-xplode for my first pre work out supp. It deff does work and is a good product, but it made my face break out sorta bad. So I switched after I finished the bottle to SuperPump 250 and I deff Like it a bitmore. No breakouts, mucle pump is very good. Focus is there. I think its a better product IMHO
bloodsimple1234
12-08-2008, 12:37 PM
there are def some solid ones out there,however Plasmagen is just as good and really gives me the best "full body pump" if you will.
BIGBLACKBEAST
12-08-2008, 12:43 PM
Just got super pump yesterday. Tried one scoop and got no effect from it :(.
It did taste great though!
Should I just try two scoops next time? I took it on an empty stomach BTW.
Superpump had the same effect on me as well ... I recommend taking 3 scoops to get the full benefit ... I really didn't get anything out of superpump, but it may be a different outcome for you, bro
tj_whit
12-08-2008, 01:09 PM
3 scoops is Dangerous lol, I've only taken the full 3 scoops once, and had the runs for 3 days following. Just Nasssssssssssssty.
Lifter4Life59
12-08-2008, 02:39 PM
Just took WF today for the first time and really enjoyed it. The pumps were very nice and I hope they just get better! Not so much energy boost like i expected, then again I never really got a boost from my last product shock therapy. But as for now i recommend this stuff, I will post again later this week after i go through the rest of my workouts
joakman
12-09-2008, 09:56 AM
NanoX9 or Nitrix?
Stop shopping at GNC
vispreludevtec
12-09-2008, 10:03 AM
Just ordered a tub of WhiteFlood, can't wait to try it!!!
CONTROLLED LABS
12-09-2008, 10:31 AM
Just took WF today for the first time and really enjoyed it. The pumps were very nice and I hope they just get better! Not so much energy boost like i expected, then again I never really got a boost from my last product shock therapy. But as for now i recommend this stuff, I will post again later this week after i go through the rest of my workouts
awesome, glad you enjoyed it. tablets or powder?
Just ordered a tub of WhiteFlood, can't wait to try it!!!
keep us posted, feedback is important to us (positive or negative as long as its constructive) :)
big40nuts
12-09-2008, 12:06 PM
NO-xplode has always worked well for me. It gives me a rush that no other supplement has giving me thus far.
ImHuge07
12-09-2008, 05:54 PM
Stop shopping at GNC
your 8'8" 888lbs
kbwj24
12-09-2008, 07:06 PM
I have tried NO Xplode, Black Powder, Cold Fusion, N.O. Plasmacore and NaNo Vapor. Jacked murdered them all ive been using it for a week now and OMG the energy you get from it. I usually work out about 1 1/2 to 2 hours and still hours after im still Jacked has me ready to go even to play with my son. None others like it i promise.
sergio_lad
12-10-2008, 01:49 PM
Well I've only tryied out 2 different NO2 products the NO2 black by MRI and Black Powder by MRI and I think NO2 black has work best for me it gives u more vascularity and better pumps at the gym more strenght and allows u to do that extra rep that u need. I do feel better result while taking it faster growth.
The thing is that I was taking it along with Meth-X by Dymatize so I don't have a complete honest data from this product. But the combination of this two has gelp me a lot.
The only ****ty thing is that u have to take 4 huge pill twice a day 30 min before ur meal. So if ur starving u gonna have to hang in there while it takes effect.
The Black Power I think is more of an energy booster to the caffein and taurine it has that a NO2 product u do feel a little vascularity happening but not as much as NO2 Black, it also has creatine. So is a rather complete supplement.
Vandal24
12-10-2008, 01:56 PM
Superpump 250
Used if for a couple of years. Nothing else is even a comparison to this pre workout drink. Awesome ingrediants and awesome reslults. When you use it you dont want to stop working out.
I have used Plasmacore, Black Powder, and Nano Vapor. I will say out of those Nano Vapor is the best; however, I seem to build a resistance to these products so next time I use an N.O. product I plan on taking it every other week see what happens.
kpurohitbodybuilding
12-10-2008, 07:05 PM
I liked BSN Nitrix (tablets) ..reason:
1. Tablets are convenient to take thourghtout the day..as suggested, the Nitrix tabs must be consumed 2 to 3 times a day..
2. Keeps you pumped all day long..
3. Amazing pumps thru' the workouts..hell yeah!
4. I have done enought cardio without losing muscle fullness while I was using this product (ofcourse diet and other factors account, I agree, but it definitely gives an edge)
I usually took 5 to 6 tabs pre-workout and at another time during the day..so twice a day..thnx.
dontblazy
12-11-2008, 12:55 PM
ive only tried N.O. Xplode and White Flood and so far I havent been to happy with Flood...
dcoen21
12-11-2008, 02:12 PM
MRi NO2 plus ala is the best.
coadygreen
12-11-2008, 02:35 PM
it would definitly be between superpump250 and n.o. xplode
Lifter4Life59
12-12-2008, 12:34 PM
finished my first week on WF
Very impressed with it. It actually tasted alright and it gave me some very nice pumps. I got a little bit of an energy boost on my last workout that by the end i was kinda scratchin my head lookin for something else i could do haha.
So i would have to give it 8/10 for the good pumps, and increased focus. Definitely recommend it to anyone
bendinbars
12-12-2008, 12:48 PM
MRI Black Powder
CONTROLLED LABS
12-12-2008, 07:19 PM
finished my first week on WF
Very impressed with it. It actually tasted alright and it gave me some very nice pumps. I got a little bit of an energy boost on my last workout that by the end i was kinda scratchin my head lookin for something else i could do haha.
So i would have to give it 8/10 for the good pumps, and increased focus. Definitely recommend it to anyone
sounds great, wait until the 2 week mark when it fully kicks in and you will be even happier :)
Lifter4Life59
12-12-2008, 08:02 PM
sounds great, wait until the 2 week mark when it fully kicks in and you will be even happier :)
ok will do thanks for the heads up!
RandallH19891
12-12-2008, 08:26 PM
I was a longer user of SuerPump250 until I tried adding White Flood to my already controlled-labs dominated supplement stack today.
IMO it is better than superpump. The tingling sensation was crazy. Good focus in the gym, not that "holy **** my heart is going to explode" feeling. Also no bloating and digestive issues like I get from superpump (yes new formula).
I am now using White Flood, Purple Wraath, and Green Magnitude all mixed in a shaker bottle pre-workout. Not trying to pimp CL, just stating da troof.
devilspawn666
12-13-2008, 12:58 AM
MRI Black Powder
Black powder was pretty good. tried many after it but they just dont quite compare. Plus it was better tasting compared to the other ones i've had. Generally I wouldnt judge products by their taste but rather by the results they provide but some just tasted awful like white flood ....which made me throw up a couple of times.
BOOSTEDDUDE
12-13-2008, 01:22 AM
I am now using White Flood, Purple Wraath, and Green Magnitude all mixed in a shaker bottle pre-workout. Not trying to pimp CL, just stating da troof.
I keep hearing people using this stack. Sounds like a good one. I didn't really like the Taste of WF ver2 very much and wish they offered more flavors. I ended up selling my WF but it did work quite good the few times I used it and your right about the smooth focus without the jitters. My body is getting too used to NO-Xplode/Black power/NaNO which are the 3 I have now. They all worked great for the first year but not as much now. I still get pumped after drinking one though so I suppose it does help. I really like the taste of No-Xplode and BP is decent with Nano in 3rd for taste.
So my rating as of now (mainly a taste whore myself)
1) No-Xplode
2) Black Powder
3) NANO Vapor
4) White Flood
WF would be much higher but I don't like the aftertaste. Either way, I might give that stack a try since I need something new.
Dedicated37
12-13-2008, 03:24 AM
I keep hearing people using this stack. Sounds like a good one. I didn't really like the Taste of WF ver2 very much and wish they offered more flavors. I ended up selling my WF but it did work quite good the few times I used it and your right about the smooth focus without the jitters. My body is getting too used to NO-Xplode/Black power/NaNO which are the 3 I have now. They all worked great for the first year but not as much now. I still get pumped after drinking one though so I suppose it does help. I really like the taste of No-Xplode and BP is decent with Nano in 3rd for taste.
So my rating as of now (mainly a taste whore myself)
1) No-Xplode
2) Black Powder
3) NANO Vapor
4) White Flood
WF would be much higher but I don't like the aftertaste. Either way, I might give that stack a try since I need something new.
Try SuperPump250 by Gaspari Nutrition if you haven't yet, the Raz Lemonade tastes great!
Dedicated37
12-13-2008, 03:25 AM
I was a longer user of SuerPump250 until I tried adding White Flood to my already controlled-labs dominated supplement stack today.
IMO it is better than superpump. The tingling sensation was crazy. Good focus in the gym, not that "holy **** my heart is going to explode" feeling. Also no bloating and digestive issues like I get from superpump (yes new formula).
I am now using White Flood, Purple Wraath, and Green Magnitude all mixed in a shaker bottle pre-workout. Not trying to pimp CL, just stating da troof.
I'm thinking about running the White Flood, Purple Wraath, and Green Mag stack, it looks pretty good for the price too.
BOOSTEDDUDE
12-13-2008, 03:34 AM
Try SuperPump250 by Gaspari Nutrition if you haven't yet, the Raz Lemonade tastes great!
Cool, I just might. I just got a new sample of something called hypershock I'm about to try. I've heard the SP250 taste terrible from others but maybe not the flavor you mentioned.
pu12en12g
12-13-2008, 03:37 AM
I'm thinking about running the White Flood, Purple Wraath, and Green Mag stack, it looks pretty good for the price too.
You'll love it
RandallH19891
12-13-2008, 04:31 AM
Well, I liked that the taste of White Flood was a lot more mild than SuperPump250. Mixed with a shaker full of water, it was a lot easier to drink the White Flood than the strong and (in my opinion) bad-tasting SP250. I just can't bring myself to drink the SP250 any more. It's just too "filling".
Redcutter
12-13-2008, 05:15 AM
I've tried Black Powder(Orange burst) and SP250(Raz Lemonade) they both taste good, but the Raz Lemonade is better. However, SP250 gave me bad stomach aches. It works awesome, it's just not cool to be all hyped for working out and then having to spend an hour in the crapper.
tonentrim
12-13-2008, 06:21 AM
Have used Met-Rx Ampd, BSN No-xplode and SP250. SP250 gives you are serious pump, but in my experience, the Ampd maintains the fullness of the muscle for longer outside of the gym!
Chmbrs
12-13-2008, 07:04 AM
You cant go wrong with No Xplode or SP 250
CONTROLLED LABS
12-13-2008, 07:48 PM
ok will do thanks for the heads up!
my pleasure
I was a longer user of SuerPump250 until I tried adding White Flood to my already controlled-labs dominated supplement stack today.
IMO it is better than superpump. The tingling sensation was crazy. Good focus in the gym, not that "holy **** my heart is going to explode" feeling. Also no bloating and digestive issues like I get from superpump (yes new formula).
I am now using White Flood, Purple Wraath, and Green Magnitude all mixed in a shaker bottle pre-workout. Not trying to pimp CL, just stating da troof.
wow, thanks for that feedback and glad you are enjoying that stack :)
I keep hearing people using this stack. Sounds like a good one. I didn't really like the Taste of WF ver2 very much and wish they offered more flavors. I ended up selling my WF but it did work quite good the few times I used it and your right about the smooth focus without the jitters. My body is getting too used to NO-Xplode/Black power/NaNO which are the 3 I have now. They all worked great for the first year but not as much now. I still get pumped after drinking one though so I suppose it does help. I really like the taste of No-Xplode and BP is decent with Nano in 3rd for taste.
So my rating as of now (mainly a taste whore myself)
1) No-Xplode
2) Black Powder
3) NANO Vapor
4) White Flood
WF would be much higher but I don't like the aftertaste. Either way, I might give that stack a try since I need something new.
we now have white flood tabs for people in your position. same formula as the powder, but no flavoring :) give it a shot
I'm thinking about running the White Flood, Purple Wraath, and Green Mag stack, it looks pretty good for the price too.
absolutely, keep us posted on this
UltraTrunks
12-13-2008, 09:56 PM
Just To Let You Guys Know I Was Told By A Bodybuilder
You Wont Feel The Pump Obviously If You Dont Have Enough Muscle
For Beginners Just Eat Right And Build Muscle First Before You Use Products Such As Superpump250
Then When You Have It Then You Will Feel It Just Saying Kk Thnx Goodnight.
style_Rz
12-13-2008, 10:02 PM
IMO controlled lab products need a redesign for the label etc.
MrBeattyJr
12-13-2008, 10:26 PM
No Xplode is great, and that new 'volumaize' is worth every penny to couple with it :)
Younggun111
12-14-2008, 12:44 AM
Working on the last of my Ragnarock. It was a good supplement imo. mI got pretty decent pumps from it. Thinkin about trying White Flood next. Alot of good reviews on it in this thread. Anyone here tried Anibolic Halo? seen an add in muscle and fittness magazine and the technology behind it sounds pretty convincing but ide like to hear of personal experiences. kbwj24, Agreed that jacked is awesome. havent tried it personally but my workout partner is on it now. Its hardcore. He got 3 tubs from the fan club deal and hes been using it for little over a week now. he likes it alot
simpleguy
12-14-2008, 02:19 AM
Anyone here tried Anabolic Halo? seen an add in muscle and fittness magazine and the technology behind it sounds pretty convincing
every product from Muscletech 'sounds' convincing, cause they spend in advertising more then in making the supps
xHoward
12-14-2008, 06:34 AM
Does anyone know how much Caffeine there is in White Flood?
Matt999
12-14-2008, 06:43 AM
I've tried every NO product on the market...BSN NO-Xplode, MHP Anadrox, NO shotgun, Musceltech NanoX9, Gaspari Nutrition's Plasma Jet and most recently, Axis Labs Hemodraulix liquijels. This product, Hemodraulix, ABSOLUTELY blows the others away. The pumps I got were ridiculous and they lasted all day. The added Beta-alanine is a nice compliment to the NO as it reduces pain and fatigue and allows me to fight through the most back breaking workouts. It also has made me a machine in the bedroom which is just the cherry on top with this product. In my opinion, there is no comparison to this product on the market right now.
Yonkersguy
12-14-2008, 07:47 AM
I've tried every NO product on the market...BSN NO-Xplode, MHP Anadrox, NO shotgun, Musceltech NanoX9, Gaspari Nutrition's Plasma Jet and most recently, Axis Labs Hemodraulix liquijels. This product, Hemodraulix, ABSOLUTELY blows the others away. The pumps I got were ridiculous and they lasted all day. The added Beta-alanine is a nice compliment to the NO as it reduces pain and fatigue and allows me to fight through the most back breaking workouts. It also has made me a machine in the bedroom which is just the cherry on top with this product. In my opinion, there is no comparison to this product on the market right now.
yeah, i just used my sample of this product and it was the first product not in a powder drink form that worked for me. I'm thinking of buying it when I'm done with my White Flood...which is working GREAT.
simpleguy
12-14-2008, 08:06 AM
Does anyone know how much Caffeine there is in White Flood?
proprietary blend... 142-143 mg per scoop... (can't get more accurate then that)
No_Name_Guy
12-14-2008, 08:34 AM
Well I would have to say that the best to worst is....
NO Plasmacore
Altered State
Super Pump
NANO Vapor
No X-XPLOD **(I Don't like it It made me incredibly depressed 24/7)
pu12en12g
12-14-2008, 08:49 AM
Does anyone know how much Caffeine there is in White Flood?
About the same as a cup of coffee
Matt999
12-14-2008, 08:55 AM
yeah, i just used my sample of this product and it was the first product not in a powder drink form that worked for me. I'm thinking of buying it when I'm done with my White Flood...which is working GREAT.
Definately give this stuff a try. It's not too expensive and it really does work well. If you try it, let me know how it works.
unplugged
12-14-2008, 10:01 AM
BSN's No Explode is awesome. Guaranteed, anybody who tries it (you will know right away!) will stay with it! You only need to take it pre-workout... not on non-workout days. This is the leader of no-load creatine / NOS products; often immitated, NEVER DUPLICATED!!
agreed with u there bud. Haven't tried SP 250 or any other creatine/NO surges, but NO Xplode is ****ing amazing. **** after my arm workout, the pumps were so ****ing huge that I had difficulty taking my shirt off afterwards. Great stuff!!!
CONTROLLED LABS
12-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Working on the last of my Ragnarock. It was a good supplement imo. mI got pretty decent pumps from it. Thinkin about trying White Flood next. Alot of good reviews on it in this thread. Anyone here tried Anibolic Halo? seen an add in muscle and fittness magazine and the technology behind it sounds pretty convincing but ide like to hear of personal experiences. kbwj24, Agreed that jacked is awesome. havent tried it personally but my workout partner is on it now. Its hardcore. He got 3 tubs from the fan club deal and hes been using it for little over a week now. he likes it alot
you will love white flood, we also have white flood tablets now, keep us posted on your results :)
yeah, i just used my sample of this product and it was the first product not in a powder drink form that worked for me. I'm thinking of buying it when I'm done with my White Flood...which is working GREAT.
if you liked white flood, check out the white flood tablets.
Younggun111
12-14-2008, 03:23 PM
every product from Muscletech 'sounds' convincing, cause they spend in advertising more then in making the supps
Haha very true. I think ever supplement, for that matter, is pretty convincing in the way that they advertise these supplements and show these before and after pictures. If youve ever seen the documentry "Bigger Stronger Faster", great documentry btw, they show a photographer that admits to taking the two picture in the same day. First picture being as depressed as possible and then after shaving chest hair and putting an artificial tan on, they take another and photoshop it. in 5 seconds a person can go from 18% bodyfat to having 6 pack abs lol. I would suggest watching the movie if you havent already
Thinny
12-15-2008, 03:03 AM
Just finished my tub of White Flood. Definately can say it worked. But I ****ing hated that it made me poo a lot. Not nice neat hard poop either. Wet, hot, loud ****s. Not sure of how much of a difference it'll make but I just ordered the WF tablets along with some SuperPump250 (apparently aka SuperDump). Not gonna stack the two but just gonna have a choice this time around.
simpleguy
12-15-2008, 05:04 AM
Haha very true. I think ever supplement, for that matter, is pretty convincing in the way that they advertise these supplements and show these before and after pictures. If youve ever seen the documentry "Bigger Stronger Faster", great documentry btw, they show a photographer that admits to taking the two picture in the same day. First picture being as depressed as possible and then after shaving chest hair and putting an artificial tan on, they take another and photoshop it. in 5 seconds a person can go from 18% bodyfat to having 6 pack abs lol. I would suggest watching the movie if you havent already
I did watch it brah... good stuff
well, first there's photoshop which can make anyone look ripped... and then, I can take before and after photos... not drinking water for 16 hrs and take the 'after pics'... then eating loads of stuff and drinking loads of water for the 'before pics'... all this in one or two days, you'd be amazed at the difference
Dedicated37
12-15-2008, 05:43 AM
Just finished my tub of White Flood. Definately can say it worked. But I ****ing hated that it made me poo a lot. Not nice neat hard poop either. Wet, hot, loud ****s. Not sure of how much of a difference it'll make but I just ordered the WF tablets along with some SuperPump250 (apparently aka SuperDump). Not gonna stack the two but just gonna have a choice this time around.
The SuperPump250 is currently the updated formula so I wouldn't worry about "SuperDumping" :p, just make sure to follow the directions.
Let us know how it goes between them both!
Dedicated37
12-15-2008, 05:45 AM
About the same as a cup of coffee
So about 200mg then I presume.
simpleguy
12-15-2008, 08:28 AM
Haha very true. I think ever supplement, for that matter, is pretty convincing in the way that they advertise these supplements and show these before and after pictures. If youve ever seen the documentry "Bigger Stronger Faster", great documentry btw, they show a photographer that admits to taking the two picture in the same day. First picture being as depressed as possible and then after shaving chest hair and putting an artificial tan on, they take another and photoshop it. in 5 seconds a person can go from 18% bodyfat to having 6 pack abs lol. I would suggest watching the movie if you havent already
btw, since you asked about anabolic halo... I was getting bored today so I checked on the main site the ingredients and the amounts... check this out:
75 ingredients... as you know, they are listed in order of their amount (they have to)... first three from the 'supercritical growth factor' are some of the cheapest supps you can find: dextrose, maltodextrin and creatine monohydrate... then what follows is a load of ingredients in useless amounts... you see yohimbine at 2mg, and then beta-alanine and glutamine are below... now that's a joke... both of the latter require grams to feel something, but less then 2 mg, come'on what on earth is that for? of course you know why, so they can fool newbies cause their product has 75 researched ingredients
bloodsimple1234
12-15-2008, 08:40 AM
anyone that I have talked to so far that has gone through at least one bottle of Plasmagen Nitrate has really liked it.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-15-2008, 01:16 PM
Just finished my tub of White Flood. Definately can say it worked. But I ****ing hated that it made me poo a lot. Not nice neat hard poop either. Wet, hot, loud ****s. Not sure of how much of a difference it'll make but I just ordered the WF tablets along with some SuperPump250 (apparently aka SuperDump). Not gonna stack the two but just gonna have a choice this time around.
awesome to hear, next time you use the powder take it with a granola bar or rice cake, it will clear up any issues you may have had. the tablets you probably wont need to as they take longer to break down, but it wont hurt to include it :)
pokerdude069
12-15-2008, 08:41 PM
whats so good about this white flood everyone is talking about?? how is it any different that pump fuel?
CONTROLLED LABS
12-16-2008, 08:00 PM
whats so good about this white flood everyone is talking about?? how is it any different that pump fuel?
that is why we have free samples: so you can see for yourself
Jon_88
12-16-2008, 08:47 PM
that is why we have free samples: so you can see for yourself
I just got some of the White Flood sample tablets, and I'm looking forward to trying them out.
I have tried Superpump 250, NO Xplode, and I'm currently on MRI's Black Powder (I would probably rate them in that order).NO Xplode and SP 250 gave great pumps and focus, although after about a week I found the effects of NO-Xplode to lessen; it started to make me feel nautious and anxious as well.
SP 250 is a great product, can't really say anything bad about it. I noticed increased energy and focus, and after my workout I was ****ing pumped.
Black Powder, has been good so far. The plus side is that I don't get a nautious or anxious feeling. I work out in the early morning and it definitely gives me that boost of energy I oftentimes need.
My experience with NO pre-workout supps has been pretty fortunate, I would not hesitate to use either of these three products. However if I were to pick just one, it would probably be SP 250; just because of the fact it didn't mess with my stomach as much as NO Xplode.
Saying that, I'm looking forward to trying out the CL sample packs, as I've heard great things about all their products as well.
samguy015
12-16-2008, 09:26 PM
i would have to go with no black powder from MRI
PhillyBoy7
12-17-2008, 07:08 AM
I personally like a lot of the NO products out there, but since I've gotten tired of spending mass quantities of money on them i've switched to just taking 3 grams of arginine (NO precursor), 3 grams of bet-alanine mixed with a selct few other ingredients and find i'm gettting better results. Just me tho
corygt3
12-17-2008, 09:04 AM
If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?
Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!
(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)
Assault from Musclepharm is by far the best out there. We are currenlty on front page of bodybuilding.com today.
-Assault has 3 major things happen when you take it
#1 Wake's your ass up and drops IN in about 10 minutes
#2 you feel the beta-alanine tingle and NO opening up your pump
#3 Endurance and focus with suma root
I been around 10 years in the industry I own a hardcore gym called the old school and have been in magazines ads for bodybuilding.com. I have taken everything on the market and nothing compares. I helped formulate this one to the T. Its no joke you will get new PR's constantly I have.
JAllumbaugh
12-17-2008, 12:17 PM
I have tried BSN's N.O. Xplode, Nitrix, and MuscleTech's NaNO Vapor.
I love N.O. Xplode but admittedly, I seem to have built up a tolerance to it and have found myself needing 2 scoops when I only needed one. But I think that this is natural with most supplements which is why cycling is important. I am almost out of my N.O. so after that I will stop for a month or 2 to give myself a break from it. The pumps I get are incredible though, I feel jacked up going into every workout and retain that feeling throughout the day. My muscles feel full after each workout.
I had a very good experience with Nitrix. Though it may not be the most cost-effective product on the market, it delivered results. After 1 cycle of Nitrix, I noticed a very possitive vascular effect. My muscles felt tighter and I felt stronger all around. The only drawbacks are the price and the horse-pills (I know that all N.O. pills are huger though)
As for NaNO Vapor, the pumps I got were decent, but I wasn't able to even set the glass down before I had to make a trip to the bathroom. I guess you could say that it upset my stomach. The taste is also kind of gross. But if a product is effective, who would care about the taste?
Regardless, I have found that stackin any N.O. product with L-Arginine increases the effectiveness. And since I am a college student (a.k.a. poor) I think that in the future, until I have a disposable income, I will stick to Arginine.
Does anyone know a good N.O that does not have Creatine in it? any info well help thanks!!!!
bosco_
12-17-2008, 07:00 PM
I just finished my White Flood and have NOShotgun and NOSynthesize by VPX.
Anyone taken them together? Shotgun Pre w/o and Synthesize intra and post?
Would it be better to cycle off after having just finished WF?
I'm pumped to start with these after great results with the CL stack. Thanks
UltraTrunks
12-17-2008, 10:30 PM
For a person on a low budget, what would be the best NO product out there?
How about suggestions on taking aakg , glutamine, Beta-Alanine, and other doses before w/o to save money?
CONTROLLED LABS
12-18-2008, 09:20 AM
I just got some of the White Flood sample tablets, and I'm looking forward to trying them out.
Saying that, I'm looking forward to trying out the CL sample packs, as I've heard great things about all their products as well.
glad to hear it, please post up your feedback when you get a chance :)
I just finished my White Flood and have NOShotgun and NOSynthesize by VPX.
I'm pumped to start with these after great results with the CL stack. Thanks
glad you enjoyed the white flood
legitlegit250
12-18-2008, 07:52 PM
My personal favorite is No Shotgun.. great pumps great for gaining lean muscle mass. Downside is price, you can buy it in bulk from MAss Nutrition and then its not too bad.. but always cycle that L- Argine is as well if you want an extreme pump!!!!
Thinny
12-18-2008, 08:33 PM
I absolutely cannot take N.O. Xplode. It made me waaaaay too anxious.
ThisBigBastard
12-19-2008, 10:37 AM
I've tried every NO product on the market...BSN NO-Xplode, MHP Anadrox, NO shotgun, Musceltech NanoX9, Gaspari Nutrition's Plasma Jet and most recently, Axis Labs Hemodraulix liquijels. This product, Hemodraulix, ABSOLUTELY blows the others away. The pumps I got were ridiculous and they lasted all day. The added Beta-alanine is a nice compliment to the NO as it reduces pain and fatigue and allows me to fight through the most back breaking workouts. It also has made me a machine in the bedroom which is just the cherry on top with this product. In my opinion, there is no comparison to this product on the market right now.
I just picked some up today..
Did you take just one serving before workout or did you space them throughout the day?
I currently take White Flood before my workout so I think doing a full serving of the Hemodraulix at the same time would be overkill.
My thinking was that by spacing it out in smaller doses throughout the day I'll possibly feel a pump all day.
JsnBrn
12-19-2008, 12:54 PM
I've used NO Xplode and Controlled Labs White Flood... I love them both.
RJT1534
12-19-2008, 01:36 PM
CL White Flood is the best for me
CONTROLLED LABS
12-19-2008, 07:16 PM
I've used NO Xplode and Controlled Labs White Flood... I love them both.
neither is slightly better? ;)
CL White Flood is the best for me
awesome, powder or tablets?
Thinny
12-20-2008, 02:58 AM
I got my SuperPump 250 today and it was badass. I was raging it in the gym today. I did damn good. Constant flow of energy without the anxiety that N.O. Xplode gives you. Didn't make me sprint to the bathroom the way White Flood would. That said, my WF tablets came today and I'll try those out (along with the suggested ricecake/granola bar CL suggested) and compare two but that'll be next week, I think. I'm taking a week break and cycle off 'em and get back to ya'll then. But right now, SuperPump250 is the bomb.
HagaElias
12-20-2008, 12:36 PM
Check sig. Makes me feel amazing both physically and mentally.
JFS77
12-20-2008, 07:00 PM
But right now, SuperPump250 is the bomb.
Same, SP250 and SizeOn are working great for me. After reading a lot of reviews/posts it was hard to choose between them and CL products. Definitely pleased with my choice and the results; felt like my arms were going to explode today!!!
I do see how the product gets the 'SuperDump' moniker though. I started with one scoop and worked up little by little ... and then found where I needed to cut it back :) Now that I know how my body reacts to the product its pretty damn awesome.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-20-2008, 09:17 PM
Check sig. Makes me feel amazing both physically and mentally.
thanks for your feedback, glad you are enjoying white flood. have you given the tablets a shot?
MrBigDick
12-20-2008, 11:12 PM
I do agree that BSN's NO Explode is a great NO creatine product. I think with all the different types of NO products out there, its kind of hard to say its the overall best.
I've used BSN's Explode and worked well. Since it was my first time using NO I thought it was incredible. After finishing up the explode I started doing research.
I came across Trac's Extreme NO. For Me, It was Fantastic. No loading stage super pumps. My arms felt tighter with the extreme NO then the explode. I did feel like while on either product I consumed to much water and there for having issues with urinating.
I've hear a lot of hype about Gaspari Nutrition SuperPump250. I research it a little and it seems like people are happy with this product. Does anyone recommend it? and if you do why?
I want to be sure before I waste the money
MrBigDick
12-20-2008, 11:15 PM
Have you ever Tried Trac Extreme NO?(FYI trac extreme NO tasted great)
Out of that and BSN's Explode the trac come out on top.
Hows the taste of superpump 250?
whoismikeford
12-20-2008, 11:53 PM
no no no no no, no sp250, no pump, nothing, i took 3 scoops, fealt nothing, after the workout i threw it out of my car window
simpleguy
12-21-2008, 02:02 AM
Have you ever Tried Trac Extreme NO?(FYI trac extreme NO tasted great)
Out of that and BSN's Explode the trac come out on top.
Hows the taste of superpump 250?
dude, read this whole thread, or at least a few pages to get an idea, most people like it... I did enjoy it, steady flow of energy, good pump, not the need to use more then 1.5 - max 2 scoops, would probably buy it again in the future
rockyk86
12-21-2008, 02:33 AM
1. CL White Flood
2. Gaspari Superpump 250
3. BSN No-Xplode
4. Labrada Super Charge
5. VPX NO Shotgun
yuik88
12-21-2008, 03:00 AM
no no no no no, no sp250, no pump, nothing, i took 3 scoops, fealt nothing, after the workout i threw it out of my car window
well i call bs on this. i mean trying it only once?
however for superpump 250 i heard alot about it. i got the blueraspberry best tasting no drink ever. it sucked though. i honestly lifted the same weight without it and my gains were the same as when i wasnt doing any no prework mix. it sucked.
like for example white flood upped my bench 10 lbs (like being on white flood vs not using it before i lift). superpump just didnt help me that much if at all.
MrBigDick
12-21-2008, 09:46 AM
Yeah I did read it, but from what I saw there wasn't much supporting evidence as to how it was the greatest. (ex. comparison to one's they have used compared to sp250) I'll take your advice and read more into detail and I appreciate your response.
I was skeptical because of all the ups and downs on the reviews. I'm looking to try out the free sample of SP250 that BB.com is offering.
Spikes097
12-21-2008, 10:00 AM
Ive never got anything out of NO Shotgun but a sick stomach
never been a huge noxpload fan either
Personal fav's
(no order)
Labrada SuperCharged
MuscleTech Vapor (only if you take alot)
VyoTech Nitrobolic
Primaforce Primal no2 (pretty good for being so cheap)
buff_dad_dy
12-21-2008, 10:06 AM
I use SP250 and enjoy it.Good pumps,energy level and taste. Tried a sample of NO Xplode and tasted like crap and not the same rush for me as the SP250.Some products just work better for some and not for others and vice versa.
Cr4zYH3aD
12-21-2008, 10:26 AM
Animal Pump
Millenium Sport Ragnarok
NaNO Vapor
Nesquik
12-21-2008, 11:01 AM
Hi guys first day on the forums and though i admit i haven't read every single page, i get the sense the most popular supplements are the Controlled Lab products White Flood,Green Mag and Purple Wrath i was thinking of getting all 3 actually.
The thing is i dont necessarily want to get bigger, im already pretty big. Im about 5'8 190 about a linebacker size wise.I wanna lose fat not necessarily weight(wouldnt mind shedding 10-15 pounds), i just wanna get cut up and lose fat on my chest/gut/legs. Would pairing these products along with something like Animal Cuts/Lipo 6 work effectively, or would it be too many supplements for my body at once? Thanks for any feedback
simpleguy
12-21-2008, 11:16 AM
Hi guys first day on the forums and though i admit i haven't read every single page, i get the sense the most popular supplements are the Controlled Lab products White Flood,Green Mag and Purple Wrath i was thinking of getting all 3 actually.
The thing is i dont necessarily want to get bigger, im already pretty big. Im about 5'8 190 about a linebacker size wise.I wanna lose fat not necessarily weight(wouldnt mind shedding 10-15 pounds), i just wanna get cut up and lose fat on my chest/gut/legs. Would pairing these products along with something like Animal Cuts/Lipo 6 work effectively, or would it be too many supplements for my body at once? Thanks for any feedback
it wouldn't be too many supplements but might be too many stimulants... depends on the individual
AngelOfDeath.
12-21-2008, 12:38 PM
N.O. Shotgun by far
Rpm and Super pump 250 were good but didnt do the as much as shotgun did for me
Animal pump didnt do much for me as well
hi , i have a question
is it ok if i take no explode and creatine at the same time or its to much?
i mean to mix it all (the 2.5 scoop of no explode and the 5 g of creatine ) 45 min before exercises with 16 oz of water
thank you very much any tip will help :)
PD : sorry for my bad english jeje
ZachG85
12-21-2008, 02:19 PM
White Flood is hilariously intense.
I went for it, one day I didn't have much to eat but drank a little too much coffee in the morning. Two scoops of White Flood and my heart went nuts and landed me in the hospital.
Moral of the story: FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS. It's easily the best NO product out there but holy **** it can kick you in the pants if you aren't paying attention.
nikkibrignac
12-21-2008, 02:33 PM
The best No suplement is definitly NOxidant from Scivation.
This product is a bomb.
Why NOxidant is much better compare to others NO products on the market?
Because this product is not only a bomb but also prevent from free radicals damage.
The fact is, Nitric Oxide, when combined with various metabolic by-products, such as superoxide, form very nasty radicals called Reactive Nitrogen Species.
But NOxidant solved the problem.
Does this cause the niacin flush I have been hearing about?
ZB126
12-21-2008, 03:01 PM
I use SP250 and enjoy it.Good pumps,energy level and taste. Tried a sample of NO Xplode and tasted like crap and not the same rush for me as the SP250.Some products just work better for some and not for others and vice versa.
I love SP250 also. NO Xplode gave me the jitters instead of a clean rush, did you feel that too? I use the Raspberry Lemon flavor now, tried the Arctic Lemon Ice, too, but I like this one more.
I was skeptical because of all the ups and downs on the reviews. I'm looking to try out the free sample of SP250 that BB.com is offering.
Like I said above, I love SP250. I would just be careful if you havent tried many of them before-- the caffeine was a lot for me at first since I wasn't used to it. Good stuff though, hope you like it!
twofocused
12-21-2008, 04:32 PM
WF was great but, I tried something new and I'm very happy with CMI 24/7.
ThisBigBastard
12-21-2008, 04:37 PM
White Flood is hilariously intense.
I went for it, one day I didn't have much to eat but drank a little too much coffee in the morning. Two scoops of White Flood and my heart went nuts and landed me in the hospital.
Moral of the story: FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS. It's easily the best NO product out there but holy **** it can kick you in the pants if you aren't paying attention.
First time I tried it I took 2 scoops along with a caffeine pill and ephedrine tab.. it ended up giving me anxiety attacks in the gym.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-21-2008, 08:54 PM
1. CL White Flood
2. Gaspari Superpump 250
3. BSN No-Xplode
4. Labrada Super Charge
5. VPX NO Shotgun honored to make your top pick :)
Hi guys first day on the forums and though i admit i haven't read every single page, i get the sense the most popular supplements are the Controlled Lab products White Flood,Green Mag and Purple Wrath i was thinking of getting all 3 actually.
The thing is i dont necessarily want to get bigger, im already pretty big. Im about 5'8 190 about a linebacker size wise.I wanna lose fat not necessarily weight(wouldnt mind shedding 10-15 pounds), i just wanna get cut up and lose fat on my chest/gut/legs. Would pairing these products along with something like Animal Cuts/Lipo 6 work effectively, or would it be too many supplements for my body at once? Thanks for any feedback
its a great stack for your goals as well. just make sure to spread white flood and a fat burner out by at least 4-5 hours
White Flood is hilariously intense.
I went for it, one day I didn't have much to eat but drank a little too much coffee in the morning. Two scoops of White Flood and my heart went nuts and landed me in the hospital.
Moral of the story: FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS. It's easily the best NO product out there but holy **** it can kick you in the pants if you aren't paying attention.
First time I tried it I took 2 scoops along with a caffeine pill and ephedrine tab.. it ended up giving me anxiety attacks in the gym.
its very potent, def follow label instructions
SpeedyMG44
12-22-2008, 02:11 AM
I am going to run my own little experiment to compare NO and Creatine stacks from different brands. I will take both their NO (preworkout) and creatine (postworkout) products, along with my normal protein, and the same diet. I will take them for one month, and record my statistics for the first of the month, and the last of the month. I will take a month off the product before starting the next brand that way I am not building immunity to the NO products and so I am not taking creatine non-stop for 4 or 5 months. Here are the Brands and the products I will be testing.
BSN:
NO-Xplode/Cellmass
Muscletech:
NaNO Vapor/CellTech
Controlled Labs:
White Flood/Green Magnitude
Gaspari:
Superpump 250/SizeOn
Also considering doing a month with Optimum and using Vassive-NO and Vassive-C5.
I will report back with my findings.
musclebrother
12-22-2008, 04:52 AM
I always use nitrix oxide (BSN Cycle:NO.Explode,Nitrix) + Vitrix by Nutrex when i'm in the mood to improve my body shape to get big,pumped and ripped.It'd like to tell you guys that these products really work as long as you controll your diets and keep working out.Hopes that these works for you guys....
ThundaThigh
12-22-2008, 06:53 AM
Has anyone tried both NO Shotgun and White flood that can compare the too. I have used shotgun and liked it, but i'm open to trying out a new PW drink.
BBingGuru
12-22-2008, 11:37 AM
Black Powder.
Or
Superpump 250
Tareg
12-22-2008, 12:51 PM
Number one: Gaspari plasmajet. Great strength and pumps. Endurance increased. I don't have to take the entire recommended dosage to get results. No caffeine buzz, fluttering heart or upset stomach.
drjemal
12-22-2008, 01:23 PM
If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?
Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!
(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)
I am also going to have to go with BSN's Nitrix. Almost every time I do a work out I am sore the next couple of days. I know there is no loading phase for it, but I wanted to allow a few days for it to build in my system. In doing so, there was absolutely no disappointment. I did a hard chest work out and felt really good doing it. Got a really serious pump! I was convinced that after this one I was going to be in some pain in a couple of days. To my surprise, nothing but a little stiffness. I was amazed at how well it allowed me to recover.
Wizdom C kerr
12-22-2008, 02:39 PM
Has anyone tried both NO Shotgun and White flood that can compare the too. I have used shotgun and liked it, but i'm open to trying out a new PW drink.
I'm in the minority here, but I loved Shotgun and couldn't stand WF. I personally didn't like "the tingles" I got from WF and PW. Not to mention, I didn't feel like it did anything for me energy-wise and also pump-wise.
Shotgun on the other hand was amazing. For me, it's between that and Xplode as the best overall NO supplement.
When I first got on Xplode, I put 30lbs on my bench in 6 weeks...But then it faded a little after that because I didn't cycle off it like I was supposed to.
A little while later, I jumped on Shotgun and again, saw amazing results. Especially the pumps..they were the best by far...
But like I stated at the top, I'm in the minority when it comes to WF...Good luck!
ZachG85
12-22-2008, 08:48 PM
I am going to run my own little experiment to compare NO and Creatine stacks from different brands. I will take both their NO (preworkout) and creatine (postworkout) products, along with my normal protein, and the same diet. I will take them for one month, and record my statistics for the first of the month, and the last of the month. I will take a month off the product before starting the next brand that way I am not building immunity to the NO products and so I am not taking creatine non-stop for 4 or 5 months. Here are the Brands and the products I will be testing.
There are... SO many reasons why this test won't produce useful results.
mattrix88
12-22-2008, 09:24 PM
well, after using several products back to back to back over the past 2 months, including NO Xplode, Shotgun, Nitrix, SP250, and Supercharged, I have to put in my opinions. Sorry, I refuse to buy any overmarketed, overadvertised, overhyped, or overrated Muscletech products!!
Overall, when I evaluated the intensity, pump, and focus of the workout, I believe that my absolute favorite has to be......
*****Labrada Supercharged!!!!*****
and no, i'm not a rep or anything. But the quality of this product is absolutely amazing!! plus there was no loading phase. just take 15 minutes before WO and wait for the raging bull to appear. the scoops are really small but the skin-tearing pumps i got from this supp were mindblowing. My biceps were so tight that I could not grab any skin at the peak during the flex 20 minutes after the workout. It also didn't give me this ****s or bother my stomach unlike SP250 and Xplode. And I got tired of taking the Nitrix pills--the pump wasn't as strong as the others during the workout but it did last longer throughout the day when I worked out in the morning. Shotgun was strong but gave me the tingles.
With Supercharged, I just pumped iron...hard!! simple as that. I lifted and lifted until I simply could not push the weight any more. I highly recommend this product to anyone who has tried the others with little success or with bad side effects.
clydekheng
12-23-2008, 12:28 AM
I'm in the minority here, but I loved Shotgun and couldn't stand WF. I personally didn't like "the tingles" I got from WF and PW. Not to mention, I didn't feel like it did anything for me energy-wise and also pump-wise.
Shotgun on the other hand was amazing. For me, it's between that and Xplode as the best overall NO supplement.
When I first got on Xplode, I put 30lbs on my bench in 6 weeks...But then it faded a little after that because I didn't cycle off it like I was supposed to.
A little while later, I jumped on Shotgun and again, saw amazing results. Especially the pumps..they were the best by far...
But like I stated at the top, I'm in the minority when it comes to WF...Good luck!
Do you feel the "tingles" in Shotgun as well? It states that it contains Beta Alanine which is the source of the "tingles" in WF/PW.
clydekheng
12-23-2008, 12:40 AM
White Flood is hilariously intense.
I went for it, one day I didn't have much to eat but drank a little too much coffee in the morning. Two scoops of White Flood and my heart went nuts and landed me in the hospital.
Moral of the story: FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS. It's easily the best NO product out there but holy **** it can kick you in the pants if you aren't paying attention.
WOW. Haha that's insane. I too had a heart "fluttering" incident once at night. The feeling wasen't too rosy. Felt really suffocated and couldn't get a single wink of sleep though my body was feeling really zombified. Anyway, I was thinking of trying a non-caffeine NO product. Any suggestions?
clydekheng
12-23-2008, 01:08 AM
Any one tried Ragnarok the non-caffeine version? Any feedback?
blueearthmn
12-23-2008, 01:57 AM
NOXPLODE!!! It Rocks!!!
CONTROLLED LABS
12-23-2008, 09:55 AM
WOW. Haha that's insane. I too had a heart "fluttering" incident once at night. The feeling wasen't too rosy. Felt really suffocated and couldn't get a single wink of sleep though my body was feeling really zombified. Anyway, I was thinking of trying a non-caffeine NO product. Any suggestions?
similar to white flood but no stims or ba, is white blood :)
Andrew80
12-23-2008, 10:14 AM
BSN NO explode.. but i wanna try Super pump 250... Got 2 jugs of NO. explode for dirt cheap..
labradarep
12-23-2008, 10:54 AM
WOW, Thanks for the "props". We at Labrada Nutrition really feel that SuperCharge!Xtreme is one of the best NO products out there. IMO it is very underrated.
Well worth the $$$.
well, after using several products back to back to back over the past 2 months, including NO Xplode, Shotgun, Nitrix, SP250, and Supercharged, I have to put in my opinions. Sorry, I refuse to buy any overmarketed, overadvertised, overhyped, or overrated Muscletech products!!
Overall, when I evaluated the intensity, pump, and focus of the workout, I believe that my absolute favorite has to be......
*****Labrada Supercharged!!!!*****
and no, i'm not a rep or anything. But the quality of this product is absolutely amazing!! plus there was no loading phase. just take 15 minutes before WO and wait for the raging bull to appear. the scoops are really small but the skin-tearing pumps i got from this supp were mindblowing. My biceps were so tight that I could not grab any skin at the peak during the flex 20 minutes after the workout. It also didn't give me this ****s or bother my stomach unlike SP250 and Xplode. And I got tired of taking the Nitrix pills--the pump wasn't as strong as the others during the workout but it did last longer throughout the day when I worked out in the morning. Shotgun was strong but gave me the tingles.
With Supercharged, I just pumped iron...hard!! simple as that. I lifted and lifted until I simply could not push the weight any more. I highly recommend this product to anyone who has tried the others with little success or with bad side effects.
Drew8889
12-23-2008, 10:55 AM
I took my free sample of White Flood the other day and I can say without a doubt its the best pre work out sup I've ever taken. The pump I got off of it was pretty insane. I was feeling a little lethargic before I took it and it sure took care of that. Very intense, quality product. I might pick up a tub with my next order.
EEytonJones
12-23-2008, 12:22 PM
I took my free sample of White Flood the other day and I can say without a doubt its the best pre work out sup I've ever taken. The pump I got off of it was pretty insane. I was feeling a little lethargic before I took it and it sure took care of that. Very intense, quality product. I might pick up a tub with my next order.
Thats funny, I felt NOTHING but absolutely NOTHING from the free samples... maybe the tabs arent for me. I still bought a tub of wf/gm/pw powder since they really got a good reputation here... I'll get back to post results in a few once I got it received. Right now order is delayed and I need to find a way to access a fax (yes angry)
Supercows
12-23-2008, 01:01 PM
If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?
Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!
(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)
Theses no such thing as the best N.O product. Something may work for one person, and not work for another. people in this thread are posting what worked for them, thats why your getting 1 million different answers. Look at muscle tech products, i haven't seen a person on this site that has seen results from their products, but alot of the pros claim they wouldn't be where they are today without the product. For me, the only NO ive tried is SuperPump250 and it works great for me, so no need to change..
colgute
12-23-2008, 03:07 PM
just got my bottle of Superpump 250 yesterday, took it today for the first time... very good pump. insane. obviously haven't seen results being on it one day lol, but i definitely believe there will be a good amount of pleasing results judging on how pumped up and stronger i was
UltraTrunks
12-23-2008, 04:35 PM
Pre Workout What Is Pre Workout????
To Me I Think Pre Workout Is Before Workout.
So What Do You Do Before A Workout ?
You Try To Get Energy To Push Heavy Weights.
So How Do You Stimulate?
You Get In A Lot Of Caffeine.
This Is Just My Theory.
So Before A Workout I Would Choose An N.o With Alot Of Caffeine In It.
If Im Looking For Something Else I Wouldnt Call It Nitric Oxide I Would Call It White Flood. It Is Preworkout Caffeine Stimulant.
Not Nitric Oxide. Not N.o. But Simply White Flood.
White Flood Before Workout.
The Above Is My Opinion And Is Not Paid Or Supported By Controlled Labs. Please Don't Sue Me.
lordtyrion
12-23-2008, 07:18 PM
I have took NO Xplode and thought it worked good the first cycle. After I cycled if off and back it, it was rather ineffective. I just started SuperPump250 and personally like it better than NO Xplode.
clydekheng
12-23-2008, 07:52 PM
similar to white flood but no stims or ba, is white blood :)
Haha, thanks for the suggestions. That's the first CL product I took way back. It didn't really work for me man but White Flood does. Just hate the sleeping thing haha.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-23-2008, 08:45 PM
I took my free sample of White Flood the other day and I can say without a doubt its the best pre work out sup I've ever taken. The pump I got off of it was pretty insane. I was feeling a little lethargic before I took it and it sure took care of that. Very intense, quality product. I might pick up a tub with my next order. awesome to hear :) help spread the word
Haha, thanks for the suggestions. That's the first CL product I took way back. It didn't really work for me man but White Flood does. Just hate the sleeping thing haha.
i hear ya, did you try a lower dose or taking it earlier?
clydekheng
12-23-2008, 09:18 PM
So far I've not taken White Flood for a week or so. Trying to recover from overtraining. But when I do try a lower dosage I'll let you know what's the outcome. Thanks for the advice CL! I have to say you're the fastest company in replying your customers queries. :D
HabitualEcstasy
12-24-2008, 01:38 AM
I vote VPX NO Shotgun, Then NO Xplode
simpleguy
12-24-2008, 02:37 AM
Look at muscle tech products, i haven't seen a person on this site that has seen results from their products, but alot of the pros claim they wouldn't be where they are today without the product
LMAO!!! =))) that was hilarious
all those pros who swear by MT stuff are sponsored by MT
justdoit08
12-24-2008, 04:00 AM
i cant seem to make my mind up with controlled labs GREEN MAG,WHITE FLOOD, PURPLE WRATH or Gaspari SIZE ON and SUPERPUMP?
give me some feedback people, what are the results , ive tried size on and im on green mag now but i want other peoples veiws!
thanks
zach da ripper
12-24-2008, 07:42 AM
I've been on SP250 for about a year now and I love it. Yes it gives me indigestion and the occasional nausea, but there is nothing like the pump, the energy, and the focus/intensity that I get from the supplement! If you have a weak stomach and can't stand to occasionally blow up the toilet seat then you probably shouldn't take this product. I look at it as it has allowed me to work out as hard as I can so then its to the toilet to release it all out, lol.
But I have had other NO products. In fact, the first one I ever tried was NOXplod. I bought the 2.71 lbs jug and I was very dissapointed in the results. It wasn't til the end of the tub when I finally felt some energy and pump.
NO Shotgun: Got some samples of this product and I got some decent results, but not near the results I got from SP250. Terrible taste on top of the mediocre performance.
LG Sciences Cold Fusion: Potent, get the tingles, get the shakes. Made me nauseated and didn't have a very good workout. I've heard its a great product, but your body has to get used to it over several workouts. Might give it another go in the future.
Cytosport Fast Twitch: A friend didn't like it so he gave me his for free. I like the energy and intensity, and it doesn't have a bad taste. Definitely a good product, although it has a good amount of caffeine.
My rating:
1) Superpump250
2) Cytosport Fast Twitch
3) NO Shotgun
4) LG Sciences Cold Fusion
5) NOxplod
Next I want to give Controlled Labs a try. I've been convinced its worth the try.
CONTROLLED LABS
12-24-2008, 07:57 AM
So far I've not taken White Flood for a week or so. Trying to recover from overtraining. But when I do try a lower dosage I'll let you know what's the outcome. Thanks for the advice CL! I have to say you're the fastest company in replying your customers queries. :D
we try our best and take customer service very seriously :)
i cant seem to make my mind up with controlled labs GREEN MAG,WHITE FLOOD, PURPLE WRATH or Gaspari SIZE ON and SUPERPUMP?
give me some feedback people, what are the results , ive tried size on and im on green mag now but i want other peoples veiws!
thanks try the others and see what you like best. you cant go wrong with these choices.
Next I want to give Controlled Labs a try. I've been convinced its worth the try.
thanks for giving us a shot. would be interested in seeing your comparisons
RP-NS
12-24-2008, 10:17 AM
HORSEPOWER!!!!
Worked best for me by far..
Though after reading about "Ragnarok" it seems interreseting.
PS: im not a fan of coffein, i like to get that extra boost when i really neeed to perform, not at every workout :) Cuz ul get more tolerant of coffein after a while.
So horsepower is the way to go ;) Contains R-ala and **** :)
ZachG85
12-24-2008, 10:17 AM
Well, my first dose of White Flood in almost a year. Let's see how it goes!
marine3412
12-24-2008, 10:29 AM
Muscletechs nanox9 will definetly get your blood pumpin. I popped three of them a couple a minutes before i worked out and i looked at my forearm and it looked normal i started talkin to my training partner for a minute looked back down and every little vain in my forearm was burstin out of my skin then i looked farther up and they were comin out everywhere.