Best Overall Nitric Oxide (NO) Product?

[dMENTION]

I think the whole NO thing is bull****, the only thing those supplements are good for is energy. Personally I think the best pumps come from a good creatine and good form.

your full of ****. NO arent just for pumps dumbass. Do your research. Oh and energy IS a good thing.

[pirell]

im tired of fat guys with 60% bodyweight complaining that all they got from NOxplode was a bit of energy but no 'pumps' and didnt see their veins pop out.



ya thinkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[elstevo]

im tired of fat guys with 60% bodyweight complaining that all they got from NOxplode was a bit of energy but no 'pumps' and didnt see their veins pop out.



ya thinkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea true, but its not advertised for skinny guys is it?They say its for everyone.Anyway, so what if you get a pump and your veins stick out from using it?Whats that got to do with muscle growth?If those pics in your avatar/profile are of you then you KNOW it doesnt mean anything.Ive never heard anyone say anything about actual "gains" from n.o. just a pump and skinny guys get veins wtf?Ive always got a good pump from training without it, dont know what the big deal about the stuff is.

[cpmode]

my fav is white flood by controlled labs........i love the tingley feeling and hits me quick....love the energy and focus........

[kbeezy]

NO Shotgun gives you a awsome pump and you can get threw those tuff workouts

[marxb]

I think the whole NO thing is bull****, the only thing those supplements are good for is energy. Personally I think the best pumps come from a good creatine and good form.

seriously, think about what you say before you open your mouth, let alone take the time to type it out
NO isnt just for pumps idiot

[elstevo]

seriously, think about what you say before you open your mouth, let alone take the time to type it out
NO isnt just for pumps idiot

What else is it good for?Certainly not lean mass gains.

[calimac69]

I have pharmaceutical grade pure nitric oxide I got from a pharmacy manufactur. It doesnt have all the other "extras" but is super high quality.

Can some one please explain exactly when I should take it and what I should and shouldnt stack with it. i currently take creatine, glutamine and bcaas.

What exactly does NO do??

Thanks.

[TheDukeUSMC]

NO Xplode (Orange)

[elstevo]

NO Xplode (Orange)

Never did get anything from no Xplode.Sp250 did it for me, but had to watch the dosage.

[powerhouse23]

Never did get anything from no Xplode.Sp250 did it for me, but had to watch the dosage.Sp250 FTW

[pittjoe33]

I have pharmaceutical grade pure nitric oxide I got from a pharmacy manufactur. It doesnt have all the other "extras" but is super high quality.

Can some one please explain exactly when I should take it and what I should and shouldnt stack with it. i currently take creatine, glutamine and bcaas.

What exactly does NO do??

Thanks.

(From bb.com)- Nitric Oxide is a free form gas that is produced in the body and is used by the body to communicate with other cells in the body. To produce this gas, enzymes in the body break down the amino acid Arginine. Nitric Oxide is a molecule consisting of one atom of nitrogen and one atom of oxygen. The production of Nitric Oxide occurs when the amino acid L-arginine is converted into L-citruline through an enzyme group known as Nitric Oxide Synthase (NOS). The fact that nitric oxide increases blood flow should make it of interest to bodybuilders, as increased blood flow will serve to deliver more nutrients to muscles, thus helping muscles become larger when subject to stress. I'm not an expert, but I would consider adding citruline Malate and arginine and maltodextrin with it. Additionally, you may want to add caffeine anhydrous for energy and maybe digestive enzymes to avoid stomach upset. You take the NO products 30-60 minutes pre-workout (empty stomach) and it is to give you a pump in the gym. Some believe it increases blood flow to the muscles which increases the pump and hopefully, helps lead to muscle size. You follow that up with a creatine during and/or after your workout.

[Feny]

methyl efx

[polo18]

Is it odd for someone not to feel anything from an NO product? I am 6'1 220 pounds (with a belly). I tried NO-Xplode, NO2 Black, and NANO Vapor. I got nothing. Has this happened to anyone else? Now all i take is whey protein after a workout.

[pittjoe33]

Is it odd for someone not to feel anything from an NO product? I am 6'1 220 pounds (with a belly). I tried NO-Xplode, NO2 Black, and . I got nothing. Has this happened to anyone else? Now all i take is whey protein after a workout.

It is possible to be a non-responder to just about any product and each person reacts differently to different products. To increase the chances of NO or creatine products working, you should consume a gallon of water per day. Also, eat 3-6 small, healthy meals per day. Take the product exactly as the instructions say to. When you say felt nothing, what exactly do you mean? I know that Nno and Xplode are loaded with stimulants. Even if you didn't feel a pump, you should have at least got some energy or increased mental focus. Unless, you are someone who takes stimulants regularly and drink coffee all day. In that case, you may have a tolerance built up.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

my fav is white flood by controlled labs........i love the tingley feeling and hits me quick....love the energy and focus........

great to hear it, white flood is an awesome product for preworkout intensity. :)

[polo18]

It is possible to be a non-responder to just about any product and each person reacts differently to different products. To increase the chances of NO or creatine products working, you should consume a gallon of water per day. Also, eat 3-6 small, healthy meals per day. Take the product exactly as the instructions say to. When you say felt nothing, what exactly do you mean? I know that Nno and Xplode are loaded with stimulants. Even if you didn't feel a pump, you should have at least got some energy or increased mental focus. Unless, you are someone who takes stimulants regularly and drink coffee all day. In that case, you may have a tolerance built up.

Well, I felt a little warmer body temperature wise, that's about it. I tried NO Xplode about two years ago and really did feel it, but nothing after my first cycle. Thanks for the help.

[pittjoe33]

Well, I felt a little warmer body temperature wise, that's about it. I tried NO Xplode about two years ago and really did feel it, but nothing after my first cycle. Thanks for the help.

A lot of people say the same thing. I've had that happen to me. I think it's just the body building up a tolerance. If I have to double or triple the dosage and the prices charged, I move to something else.

[Tacoma728]

i live by BSN's no xplode, it has helped me out tremendously in the past few years. Mated with creatine it is the perfect combo.

my two cents.

[elstevo]

methyl efx

Havent heard of that one.What was your dosage and results?:D

[History in Effect]

Nano Vapor was good until I got the killer beta alanine tingles. N.O. Xplode cem 3 technology worked pretty good too.

[psych]

Nano Vapor was good until I got the killer beta alanine tingles. N.O. Xplode cem 3 technology worked pretty good too.

beta alanine tingles are awesome

cem3 ? whatever happened to that lawsuit about the lack of cee in their products?

[History in Effect]

beta alanine tingles are awesome

cem3 ? whatever happened to that lawsuit about the lack of cee in their products?

it was proven false

[SomeoneStopMe]

i tried noxplode, and superpump 250, didn't really like them much. Vasocharge is the **** though. noxplode just looks wierd when you mix it, looks like it destroys your insides when you down it lol. vasocharge just look slike gatorade, and tastes very good as wel. i think everyone reacts differently to each NO product on the market. oh and the tingles from the vaso are cool.

[jeremyleinen]

Anybody tried Nuclear Garbage?

I think i'll be picking up some white flood.

EDIT: Actually, upon further consideration, I think I'll be picking up some Shock Therapy.

[pittjoe33]

Anybody tried Nuclear Garbage?

I think i'll be picking up some white flood.

I just looked at the specs for Nuclear Garbage and it doesn't look bad. I too would be interested to know if anyone has used this product and what they thought. If you have used it and have tried others, how it compares.

[MsFitFern]

Hands down the best product I have ever used. As a newbie, I was floundering to find something I liked that had immediate effects

[elstevo]

I just looked at the specs for Nuclear Garbage and it doesn't look bad. I too would be interested to know if anyone has used this product and what they thought. If you have used it and have tried others, how it compares.

x2, yea anyone there with some experience with this stuff?

[Tacoma728]

[QUOTE=alexanator;4870897]the best NO out there is hands down: SuperPump 250. QUOTE]

I still think to this day that BSN No Xplode and Nitrix is the best out there, just my two cents.

[peteyr1]

Hands down the best product I have ever used. As a newbie, I was floundering to find something I liked that had immediate effects

..surprise surprise you love CL supp's,who wouldve thought Fern:p

ha ha ha....jk

Am currently taking No exp stacked with Size On. Am awaiting on my Green Magnitude to arrive,but will throw some White Flood into my next order and give that a shot seeing as the No Exp tub is just about done. Always open to suggestions and trying new products to see how they work for me.

Cheers.

[JMoney..]

NO explode may be the best but bsn loads their products with caffeiene so you may crash and not feel great when you run out
i tried superpump250 and didnt get anything out of it
ive heard great things about walmarts brand of NO i think its by sixstar muscle or some brand. the price isnt bad either
overall NO exp is probably the best

[woodie]

I've used several other products, but black powder gives me a awesome focused pump. My workouts are so intense. The way they should be. Worth every dime and wont be switching to the other crap out there.

[elstevo]

Any of you guys try Ragnarok by Millennium Sport ?I heard its pretty good.But never tried it.

[nicholas001]

im taking superpump right now and i find it works really well but i also wanted to try black powder to see if thats better if anyone has any experience with both products some advice would be great

[kruze414]

Currently taking SuperPump and SizeOn... i think I am gettin good strength results but my stomach has definatly been bubbly bad gas and stuff.... I didnt get that with No Xplode or NoxCG3...

Is Animal Stak2 a NO product?? I was thinkin of takin that next along with like Shock therapy or somethin pre workout. And then a diff creatine supplement during...

thanks, kruzer

[Khoraji]

Here's my SuperPump/NO-Xplode comparison:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6628991

[dMENTION]

im taking superpump right now and i find it works really well but i also wanted to try black powder to see if thats better if anyone has any experience with both products some advice would be great

Black Powder was the best NO product ive ever used. And ive tried Nano Vapor, Horsepower(awesome too!), NO xplode, and TRAC NO extreme. BLACK POWDER<
great focus, pump, energy.

[frIIscO]

has any body here tried naNO vapor frm muscletech? i started using NOxplode and then switched 2 vapor,bt then i didnt have enough money 2 buy it again so i switched bak 2 NOxplode.i cudnt lift the same as with vapor,and next day i was sore as hell.any one know y?

[FitIron]

Scivations VasoCharge...

http://www.scivation.com/scivation_vaso.htm

Hands down the best I've used.

I feel it my entire workout. It is also very economical too.

$27 bucks on BB.COM

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/vaso.htm

Enjoy, it is a RUSH!!!!!!!!

[FitIron]

i tried noxplode, and superpump 250, didn't really like them much. Vasocharge is the **** though. noxplode just looks wierd when you mix it, looks like it destroys your insides when you down it lol. vasocharge just look slike gatorade, and tastes very good as wel. i think everyone reacts differently to each NO product on the market. oh and the tingles from the vaso are cool.

VASOCHARGE is the big bang!

I could take 3 heaping scoops of NO-Xplode and not feel a thing.

However those 2 little scoops of Vaso sent me through the roof, and I felt it for over an hour...!

[frIIscO]

i dnt feel absolutely nuthing with NO xplode any more!

[FitIron]

i dnt feel absolutely nuthing with NO xplode any more!

I felt NO-X within about 10 minutes of taking it, BUT nothing after...notta!
SuperPump and Deccastack didnt do much for me either..

Try the VasoCharge!

[frIIscO]

thnx! il try vaso charge.u take any protein powders?

[FitIron]

thnx! il try vaso charge.u take any protein powders?

I do, use ON Whey Protein. This is my usual protocol..( at the moment my pre-workout is dfferent because I am testing 2 products for Fusion Bodybuilding, but other than that this is what I do ) follows..

Pre-workout...VasoCharge
..................during workout and post, I sip on Xtend, ( BCAA's )

Then I'll have my first meal of the day about 30-45 minutes later, ( i workout at 4:30am on an empty stomach except for the Vaso and Xtend )..

I take in 2 shakes a day, mid-morning and mid-afternoon...

[sportsfan4110]

NaNO Vapor is the best NO product out there. NO Explode works well but Vapor RULES!!

[camicon]

I love fruit punch NO Xplode!!!! I get so pumped and ready to go!!

[BigBadRedBird]

BSN's NO-XPLODE is by faar the best SUPPLEMENT that I have ever taken. Even comaring it to the late 90's when I first started building in the Marine Corps. At that time ephedra seemed to lace every product on the shelf. I remember just about every workout in 29 Palms, CA, I would come out of the West Gym ready to puke and most times I did. I was 19 years old and my body could take that pounding and in a sick, twisted way I liked it.

I have been taking NO-XPLODE on and off for about a year now and it still gives me that pump that it did from day one. I take two scoops and 20 minutes later I am dialed in and ready to kill it. The only downside to it so far has been my need to play air drums or air guitar when a really hard song is on my IPOD. I try to catch myself before the first drumstick flies, but sometimes it slips.

Recently, I want to switch some things up. I tried MuscleTech's NanoVapor and got that il feeling that I can recall from my early days. I am a little older now and did not like it one bit. I felt like puking during my entire workout.

I went back to NO-XPLODE and will stay with it for a number of reasons:
1. Taste- It tastes like ENERGY. Sounds weird but it does.
2. Pump
3. Focus
4. Intensity
5. No after effects or stomach illness.

[miketl]

does bb.com sale blackpowder?i dont see it.

[XXX666]

I mix 2 scoops of NaNO vapor and 2 scoops N.O.-Xplode and take some before and during my work out.

Thats the best over the counter stuff....... *eyes rolling, shouldn't have typed that*

[stevothedevo]

When y'all finished raving about supps with ridiculous 'cool' names - do yourself a favour and actually LOOK at REAL info on NO products.+

? Arginine blood flow stimulators ("ni("nitric-oxide" or "NO2" supplements) have been shown to increase vasodilation, but only in unfed people receiving enormous doses through an IV.

? Oral arginine supplementation doesn't affect blood flow.

? A dose as low as 10 grams has been associated with gastric upset when consumed orally. This dose has no significant effect on glycogen storage, even if it didn't cause diarrhea.

? Time release arginine is supposed to lead to a "perpetual pump" effect. New studies have shown this not to be the case.

? NO2 was shown to have no effect compared to a placebo on body composition or muscle strength.

? It's not possible for us to consume high enough levels of arginine to effectively increase nitric oxide levels.

? Copycat NO2 products are no better than the original supplement. In fact, those that contain glycocyamine should be avoided because of potential health concerns.

? If you think these products work for you, then you'd better look into the placebo effect.

? Arginine might temporarily elevate growth hormone levels, but only if you're able to take unrealistic doses. There's little evidence to support that this short term increase in GH would do anything for your physique anyway.

? In one study, arginine aspartate was shown to increase prolactin by an average of 75%. Prolactin is associated with decreased Testosterone levels.

? Five grams of arginine consumed during resistance exercise was shown to decrease normal exercise-induced GH output.

? The positive benefits of oral arginine supplementation can only be achieved through doses higher than the human body can handle. And most (but not all) of this effect is mediated by insulin. So if you want to have blood flow increases equivalent to a huge IV arginine infusion, just manipulate insulin through other means

[XXX666]

When y'all finished raving about supps with ridiculous 'cool' names - do yourself a favour and actually LOOK at REAL info on NO products.+

? Arginine blood flow stimulators ("ni("nitric-oxide" or "NO2" supplements) have been shown to increase vasodilation, but only in unfed people receiving enormous doses through an IV.

? Oral arginine supplementation doesn't affect blood flow.

? A dose as low as 10 grams has been associated with gastric upset when consumed orally. This dose has no significant effect on glycogen storage, even if it didn't cause diarrhea.

? Time release arginine is supposed to lead to a "perpetual pump" effect. New studies have shown this not to be the case.

? NO2 was shown to have no effect compared to a placebo on body composition or muscle strength.

? It's not possible for us to consume high enough levels of arginine to effectively increase nitric oxide levels.

? Copycat NO2 products are no better than the original supplement. In fact, those that contain glycocyamine should be avoided because of potential health concerns.

? If you think these products work for you, then you'd better look into the placebo effect.

? Arginine might temporarily elevate growth hormone levels, but only if you're able to take unrealistic doses. There's little evidence to support that this short term increase in GH would do anything for your physique anyway.

? In one study, arginine aspartate was shown to increase prolactin by an average of 75%. Prolactin is associated with decreased Testosterone levels.

? Five grams of arginine consumed during resistance exercise was shown to decrease normal exercise-induced GH output.

? The positive benefits of oral arginine supplementation can only be achieved through doses higher than the human body can handle. And most (but not all) of this effect is mediated by insulin. So if you want to have blood flow increases equivalent to a huge IV arginine infusion, just manipulate insulin through other means


I'm not calling you out or trying to be a jerk, but i would like to see where you got all that information for self education and awareness purposes. I would appreciate that.

[SkystheLimit06]

deff the way to go. best pre-workout supp out there ; has mood enhancers and definitly gives you that pump through out your workout

[stevothedevo]

I'm not calling you out or trying to be a jerk, but i would like to see where you got all that information for self education and awareness purposes. I would appreciate that.

No worries: There was a Berkley? study that had the same results - no gains in any area using NO products but I'll have to dig it up.
For now, here are the other references.
Be aware that I have asked in the past for anyone to even come up with ONE source that statisitcally correlates LBM gains with NO products and I'll apologise and admit I'm wrong.

NOBODY IN OVER ONE YEAR HAS EVER POSTED EVEN ONE SOURCE....which speaks volumes imho.



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[elstevo]

When y'all finished raving about supps with ridiculous 'cool' names - do yourself a favour and actually LOOK at REAL info on NO products.+

? Arginine blood flow stimulators ("ni("nitric-oxide" or "NO2" supplements) have been shown to increase vasodilation, but only in unfed people receiving enormous doses through an IV.

? Oral arginine supplementation doesn't affect blood flow.

? A dose as low as 10 grams has been associated with gastric upset when consumed orally. This dose has no significant effect on glycogen storage, even if it didn't cause diarrhea.

? Time release arginine is supposed to lead to a "perpetual pump" effect. New studies have shown this not to be the case.

? NO2 was shown to have no effect compared to a placebo on body composition or muscle strength.

? It's not possible for us to consume high enough levels of arginine to effectively increase nitric oxide levels.

? Copycat NO2 products are no better than the original supplement. In fact, those that contain glycocyamine should be avoided because of potential health concerns.

? If you think these products work for you, then you'd better look into the placebo effect.

? Arginine might temporarily elevate growth hormone levels, but only if you're able to take unrealistic doses. There's little evidence to support that this short term increase in GH would do anything for your physique anyway.

? In one study, arginine aspartate was shown to increase prolactin by an average of 75%. Prolactin is associated with decreased Testosterone levels.

? Five grams of arginine consumed during resistance exercise was shown to decrease normal exercise-induced GH output.

? The positive benefits of oral arginine supplementation can only be achieved through doses higher than the human body can handle. And most (but not all) of this effect is mediated by insulin. So if you want to have blood flow increases equivalent to a huge IV arginine infusion, just manipulate insulin through other means

Cool, your the only dude ive seen, speaking the truth about the no crap out there.Rep for the truth

[Sern]

I have been on the BSN "Stack" for five weeks now , NO xplode, Nitrix, Cellmass, with increased caloric intake (good base of macro nutrients, multi vit..etc....). Been looking to get some mass. For training I started the GVT suggested in the Poliquin article.

Results, aside from the caffeine affect I get from most other caffeinated boosters prior to a workout...................NADA!!!!
I had no better results than from before when I was using just Muscle Milk and eating right.
No gains in weight, strength, or mass. Which is what I was hoping on happeining. Good thing after what I have read about some of the ingrediants I just finished consuming I drank a gallon of H2O a day to keep the organs safe.

Guess I'll keep searching. How is Gaspari's stuff.

[stevothedevo]

I have been on the BSN "Stack" for five weeks now , NO xplode, Nitrix, Cellmass, with increased caloric intake (good base of macro nutrients, multi vit..etc....). Been looking to get some mass. For training I started the GVT suggested in the Poliquin article.

Results, aside from the caffeine affect I get from most other caffeinated boosters prior to a workout...................NADA!!!!
I had no better results than from before when I was using just Muscle Milk and eating right.
No gains in weight, strength, or mass. Which is what I was hoping on happeining. Good thing after what I have read about some of the ingrediants I just finished consuming I drank a gallon of H2O a day to keep the organs safe.

Guess I'll keep searching. How is Gaspari's stuff.

Cool. BTW have you heard the saying, "a rose would still smell as sweet by any other name."
In other words - it is the INGREDIENT (NO) that is utterly ineffective and not any brand. Trying Gaspari would be like trying panadol/Tylenol from a different supplier - it is still panadol!
Save your $$'s for things that work I reckon.

[elstevo]

Cool. BTW have you heard the saying, "a rose would still smell as sweet by any other name."
In other words - it is the INGREDIENT (NO) that is utterly ineffective and not any brand. Trying Gaspari would be like trying panadol/Tylenol from a different supplier - it is still panadol!
Save your $$'s for things that work I reckon.

What would you recommend?

[stevothedevo]

What would you recommend?


Hi.

A lot of people think I'm anti - supps, but that's just because they feel a bit foolish that they paid for and took what were gimmicky, ineffective rubbish supps. Some lifters have too much ego to do anything but neg me for doing little else than cut and pasting someone elses' research.

Reminds me of the film line, "You can't handle the truth...." lol

In reality I take over TEN different supps - some for growth but others for well being that is essential also for a growing organism.

In no particular order I believe in:

A proven workout regimen
Awesome lean diet
Lots of sleep

To supplement this I take:

Flavourless WPI - at least 4 times daily.

Basic creatine mono - again why complicate a fundamental product with inane tweaking and silly cool sounding names....(for @@#&'s sake were adults - see beyond the wanky advertising folks!)

Fish Oil - 6 grams daily

ALCAR - 1.5 grams daily

R-ALA 400mg (S isomer ALA is money down the drain)

Rhodiola Rosea (Adaptogenics are vital for a stressed organism, which any BBuilder's cells certainly are!)

Multivitamin and mineral - any old multi on special from supermarket is fine - again avoid the hype, all it offers is a way to spend more for often the same product.

Caffeine - pre workout, which is the source of what most NO users think they get from NO.


Green Tea Extract - Focus from caffiene, antioxidant / bioflavanoid

CoQ10 - critical in production of energy within EVERY cell of the body and assists ATP production which also is vital.


Hope that helps you - and, in the case of others, helps allay the negativity that I am just an anti-supp company *******...

Regards,

Stephen.

[bizdan]

Does anyone have any reviews on Anadrox by MHP? this product has the effect of NO and a fat burner they say. Any first hand experience will help.

[elstevo]

Hi.

A lot of people think I'm anti - supps, but that's just because they feel a bit foolish that they paid for and took what were gimmicky, ineffective rubbish supps. Some lifters have too much ego to do anything but neg me for doing little else than cut and pasting someone elses' research.

Reminds me of the film line, "You can't handle the truth...." lol

In reality I take over TEN different supps - some for growth but others for well being that is essential also for a growing organism.

In no particular order I believe in:

A proven workout regimen
Awesome lean diet
Lots of sleep

To supplement this I take:

Flavourless WPI - at least 4 times daily.

Basic creatine mono - again why complicate a fundamental product with inane tweaking and silly cool sounding names....(for @@#&'s sake were adults - see beyond the wanky advertising folks!)

Fish Oil - 6 grams daily

ALCAR - 1.5 grams daily

R-ALA 400mg (S isomer ALA is money down the drain)

Rhodiola Rosea (Adaptogenics are vital for a stressed organism, which any BBuilder's cells certainly are!)

Multivitamin and mineral - any old multi on special from supermarket is fine - again avoid the hype, all it offers is a way to spend more for often the same product.

Caffeine - pre workout, which is the source of what most NO users think they get from NO.


Green Tea Extract - Focus from caffiene, antioxidant / bioflavanoid

CoQ10 - critical in production of energy within EVERY cell of the body and assists ATP production which also is vital.


Hope that helps you - and, in the case of others, helps allay the negativity that I am just an anti-supp company *******...

Regards,

Stephen.
Hey Stephen,
Wow! you certainly are into supps.Ive always stuck with a basic creatine, protien drink, multi, and have added the occasional test booster, or plain tribulus which i seem to respond to.Although ive read stuff recently suggesting tribulus doesent work(maybe im getting the placebo effect).Im not an no fan and am pretty anti-big company and make no apologies for it because of all the outrageous claims and downright lies they make about their products to get people to fork over hard earned $$.I would urge you to check out the GET DIESEL company though they really do have some solid products.Refreshing to see someone willing to speak their mind about supps instead of the fake reviews i see all the time on this forum.Thanx for the advice dude. :cool:

P.S
How long have you been training?

[willpv_old]

I got my first tub of White Flood in the mail on Friday, and have used it twice. Let me just say, I worked out at 5:00 AM today, and had an incredible workout (shoulders and triceps). I was able to squeeze out an extra rep here and there, but more than anything, I was wide awake and in the zone. I had been using Shock Therapy after cycling off of NOExplode, and wasn't too thrilled w/ it. On Shock Therapy I seemed to crash about halfway through my workouts. I read a lot of good things about Uni's ST, but it just so happens it wasn't for me. If you're looking to try a new NO product, and haven't tried WF, it's worth a try.

[Mysterry]

Depends on what results you want imo.

[CALLofDUTY]

Horse Power by Ultimate Nutrition

[Hardnutcheck]

I'll be getting off N.O explode is a couple days like how the bottle says, but am I supposed to workout without it or can I take something else? I'm extremely confused on that.

[pittjoe33]

I'll be getting of N.O explode is a couple days like how the bottle says, but am I supposed to workout without it or can I take something else? I'm extremely confused on that.

I'm extremely confused on what your question is. What is your question. This supplement is a pre-workout supplement. You take it 45 min. to an hour before you workout. It will give you energy and mental focus and a little pump while working out. You take a creatine supplement or recovery supplement during and/or after the workout. It is taken on an empty stomach, so work in whey or casein protein somewhere before and after around NO-Xplode.

[Hardnutcheck]

I'm extremely confused on what your question is. What is your question. This supplement is a pre-workout supplement. You take it 45 min. to an hour before you workout. It will give you energy and mental focus and a little pump while working out. You take a creatine supplement or recovery supplement during and/or after the workout. It is taken on an empty stomach, so work in whey or casein protein somewhere before and after around NO-Xplode.


Sorry about that. What I meant was since you have to cycle N.O explode do I workout without it or can I use another pre workout? I'm on explode for 2 weeks and then I get off it for 1 week but my question is can I take something else for that 1 week I'm off it?

[pittjoe33]

Sorry about that. What I meant was since you have to cycle N.O explode do I workout without it or can I use another pre workout? I'm on explode for 2 weeks and then I get off it for 1 week but my question is can I take something else for that 1 week I'm off it?

i usually do 4-6 weeks ON, then take 2 weeks off. If cycling off, i wouldn't take another NO Product. Same with the post-workout creatine. While off, just continue taking whey protein throughout the day, casein protein before bed, fish or flaxseed oil, a good multi-vitamin, good clean diet. If you want to take something in it's place, maybe take glutamine and ribose during the off-cycle. Hope this helps. If you follow what I said, drop a note and let me know how it worked out.

[Hardnutcheck]

Would not taking any caffeine products affect on how I respond with N.O Explode? and by glutamine, Glutamine powder? How would that work for prework out? I just know it as a recovery agent

[fhm010]

i like No - Xplode i take it with cell mass and i think it working great, i would recommend that

[pittjoe33]

Would not taking any caffeine products affect on how I respond with N.O Explode? and by glutamine, Glutamine powder? How would that work for prework out? I just know it as a recovery agent

I would avoid drinking a lot of coffee or soda or caffeine containing products due to NO-Xplode being loaded with it. You can build up a tolerance. As far as glutamine, take L-glutamine after workouts or before bedtime, when muscle tissue typically undergoes repair and recuperation. I would take powder form in 5 gram does twice daily.

[pittjoe33]

Would not taking any caffeine products affect on how I respond with N.O Explode? and by glutamine, Glutamine powder? How would that work for prework out? I just know it as a recovery agent

One more thing. You cycle off in order to allow your body to reset and avoid building up a tolerance and diminish effectiveness. When you start back up, usually you get better results. This is why I wouldn't take another similar or like product in it's absence. I would avoid taking additional Glutamine while you're taking a supplement containing it because it is found in foods, whey protein, etc. and your body only needs about 10 grams per day. When off-cycling, it is ok to supplement it in.

[Hardnutcheck]

I would avoid drinking a lot of coffee or soda or caffeine containing products due to NO-Xplode being loaded with it. You can build up a tolerance. As far as glutamine, take L-glutamine after workouts or before bedtime, when muscle tissue typically undergoes repair and recuperation. I would take powder form in 5 gram does twice daily.
Thanks alot. Would I be adding glutamine even though my protein already has some?

As far as caffeine goes, I've eliminated that all together since I started taking N.O

[pittjoe33]

Thanks alot. Would I be adding glutamine even though my protein already has some?

As far as caffeine goes, I've eliminated that all together since I started taking N.O

Read the label on your whey protein. How many grams are in it per serving? You need about 10 grams per day. Also, on bodybuilding.com, go to the superstore, type any term in the search bar. All of your questions can be answered by researching and learning. For instance, type glutamine and the search results will bring up "Glutamine Information and Product Listing". Here you can read about what it is, why you need it, how much to take, etc. Under it, you'll see all of the products that contain it. Same for nitric oxide, creatine, and everything else. Hope this helps.

[figure_girl]

I would avoid drinking a lot of coffee or soda or caffeine containing products due to NO-Xplode being loaded with it. You can build up a tolerance. As far as glutamine, take L-glutamine after workouts or before bedtime, when muscle tissue typically undergoes repair and recuperation. I would take powder form in 5 gram does twice daily.

Would you recommend taking more than (2) 5 gram doses a day in powder form? Thanks, linda

[stevothedevo]

Hey Stephen,
Wow! you certainly are into supps.Ive always stuck with a basic creatine, protien drink, multi, and have added the occasional test booster, or plain tribulus which i seem to respond to.Although ive read stuff recently suggesting tribulus doesent work(maybe im getting the placebo effect).Im not an no fan and am pretty anti-big company and make no apologies for it because of all the outrageous claims and downright lies they make about their products to get people to fork over hard earned $$.I would urge you to check out the GET DIESEL company though they really do have some solid products.Refreshing to see someone willing to speak their mind about supps instead of the fake reviews i see all the time on this forum.Thanx for the advice dude. :cool:

P.S
How long have you been training?

LMAO at all the comments previous to this and subsequent to yours that still keep asking is 'explode better than flood or vapour....omfg - the silly names and noone even seems to even look like they saw our posts. No wonder these companies are rich with so many suckers out there. I mean - this thread is 1000'S OF POSTS LONG AND STILL PEOPLE ASK IS X BETTER THAN Y, the same questions asked over 2500 posts ago....sure speaks volumes IMHO.....
What more evidence is needed to prove the adage that there is a sucker born every day....

Anyway,

I was a national 400 meter champion and multiple state title holder and have trained for the best part of 19 years. When I had my third knee operation I quit and hit the gym inconsistently. I have been training hard again for about 3 years. And you - you look in good shape - at least your arm does...lol

[six7one]

N.O. explode works for me. Veins apoppin'!!! The taste is what keeps me buying it.

I did try Methyl EFX, works well too...Sustained energy and pump from that for sure! But the taste is not pleasant at all...

I would like to try black powder...If anyone's tried it, let me know how it tastes and works..

Thanks!

[stevothedevo]

N.O. explode works for me. Veins apoppin'!!! The taste is what keeps me buying it.

I did try Methyl EFX, works well too...Sustained energy and pump from that for sure! But the taste is not pleasant at all...

I would like to try black powder...If anyone's tried it, let me know how it tastes and works..

Thanks!

Ahhhh, so apart from veins and taste, does it actually do something for you that a bodybuilder would actually want - like lean body mass gains? Or do you just take supps for the taste?

[Hankey723]

I have taken No-xplode and it was ok for a while but I wasnt to satisfied. Found another NO product called Supercharge and talk about being in the zone my whole work out. I dont know how Supercharge compares to vapor and superpump etc, but it blows away NO-xplode. And it doesnt give you that crash effect that most NO products do after your work out.

[pittjoe33]

Would you recommend taking more than (2) 5 gram doses a day in powder form? Thanks, linda

I'm not 100% certain on what the breakdown is for body weight. That is, how many grams per pound of body weight. 10 Grams is a general amount for males of average size/weight. Therefore, I don't want to give you advise that I cannot back with anything proven. In general, I would stick with 2-3 doses per day. If 2, stay around 5 grams each dose. If 3 times per day, stay around 3 grams each. In my oppinion, I would take 3 grams before and after a workout mixed with water or a juice, and another 3 gram serving before bed with a casein protein shot.

[pittjoe33]

Would you recommend taking more than (2) 5 gram doses a day in powder form? Thanks, linda

Linda,
I only just now looked at your photo. I have to say, I should be asking you for diet and supplement advice. Whatever you're doing, just keep doing it and don't change up. You already look phenomenal. Are you upstate or NYC? Great job!

[BigHock]

Hey Pitjoe,, and Linda Parnes

Here is a little help with your glutamine intake.. Not everyone is as helpfull but BB.com has a good article .. i have copied a little from it..
Linda you seem to be in good shape. Pitjoe has given you some good advice.. as far as the glutamine.. its not the end all be all.. but will help with recovery a little.. i have worked with a lot of people and they have responded to diffrent amounts.. but may this might give you a little insight..
Filling your body with good antioxidants will help tremendously... pomergrant, R-ala, grape seed.. antioxidants will help with recovery as well...

Good Luck

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vm8.htm

Normal intake of glutamine from protein-rich foods is approximately 3 to 6g per day based on a protein intake of 0.8 - 1.6g/kg bodyweight. Therefore, if you are an 80kg male (176lbs) and you are consuming between 64g - 128g of protein per day (and since you are reading Bodybuilding.com, I bet your consumption is a lot more than this...) your glutamine intake from food sources is within this range. To convert your weight from pounds to kilograms, simply take your weight and times it by 0.4536. So if you weight 165 pounds, you would take 165 X 0.4536 to get approximately 75 kilograms.

[pittjoe33]

Hey Pitjoe,, and Linda Parnes

Here is a little help with your glutamine intake.. Not everyone is as helpfull but BB.com has a good article .. i have copied a little from it..
Linda you seem to be in good shape. Pitjoe has given you some good advice.. as far as the glutamine.. its not the end all be all.. but will help with recovery a little.. i have worked with a lot of people and they have responded to diffrent amounts.. but may this might give you a little insight..
Filling your body with good antioxidants will help tremendously... pomergrant, R-ala, grape seed.. antioxidants will help with recovery as well...

Good Luck

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vm8.htm

Normal intake of glutamine from protein-rich foods is approximately 3 to 6g per day based on a protein intake of 0.8 - 1.6g/kg bodyweight. Therefore, if you are an 80kg male (176lbs) and you are consuming between 64g - 128g of protein per day (and since you are reading Bodybuilding.com, I bet your consumption is a lot more than this...) your glutamine intake from food sources is within this range. To convert your weight from pounds to kilograms, simply take your weight and times it by 0.4536. So if you weight 165 pounds, you would take 165 X 0.4536 to get approximately 75 kilograms.

Good stuff, thanks. The trick to supplementation that people usually don't take into consideration is how much is in each serving that I take; how much should I consume in a day; and how much naturally occurs in my normal diet. That can be tricky.

[elstevo]

LMAO at all the comments previous to this and subsequent to yours that still keep asking is 'explode better than flood or vapour....omfg - the silly names and noone even seems to even look like they saw our posts. No wonder these companies are rich with so many suckers out there. I mean - this thread is 1000'S OF POSTS LONG AND STILL PEOPLE ASK IS X BETTER THAN Y, the same questions asked over 2500 posts ago....sure speaks volumes IMHO.....
What more evidence is needed to prove the adage that there is a sucker born every day....

Anyway,

I was a national 400 meter champion and multiple state title holder and have trained for the best part of 19 years. When I had my third knee operation I quit and hit the gym inconsistently. I have been training hard again for about 3 years. And you - you look in good shape - at least your arm does...lol

HE,he,
Yea i'm fairly muscular, but at the moment not dieting and carrying too much fat :o But you got it all dude, leaness and muscularity.Good stuff.I totally agree about the comments on this and other threads, i find more and more often i tune in for the entertainment value rather than actual valid discussion points.Im sick of getting flamed for voicing my opinion and quoting actuall facts about N.O and other supps so these days i just sit back and read.I see your from Aus same as me, which state did you hold your titles?Anyhoo Stephen i will keep an eye out for more of your posts.Maybe you wanna do one of your own reviews sometime, that would be refreshing.As far as the suckers go, the way i see it if it keeps them motivated then what the hell at least they are training.Its their $$.

[BillMueller]

NO Xplode by BSN

kicks me in the ass pre workout and gives me energy and great pumps during workout

[Hardnutcheck]

Right now I'm working out in my garage and let me say I feel the N.O Explode working today. I've been on it for about 2 weeks and today I feel it the most, to the point that it's a painful pump in my left bicep.

[Hardnutcheck]

I dont know if the more you take it the more you'll feel it, but right now I'm simply amazed at how I feel. The pump I have in my arms is ridicoulous.

[Leonidas80]

Sp250 Ftw

[jetnic13]

Fizogen Blast Cycle: Best laxitive ever CREATED!! Oh sorry were talking about pre workout my bad!!! Myogenix Hypershock

[terrann]

currently on white flood by Controlled Labs.. the serving size is so small i can snort that **** like its blue magic. nothing more to say, excellent product.

i have also used noxplode, sp250, and no-shotgun. someone reccomend me another one plz...
vasocharge next?

[Armson Swole]

currently on white flood by Controlled Labs.. the serving size is so small i can snort that **** like its blue magic. nothing more to say, excellent product.

i have also used noxplode, sp250, and no-shotgun. someone reccomend me another one plz...
vasocharge next?

Ragnarok or Animal Pump.

[lymbo]

I here allot of guys raving about Plasma Jet from Gaspari at the GYM lately! I rarely or never hear people talk about supplements in gym! I guess its worth a look ? you tell me has anyone tried this yet?

[pittjoe33]

I here allot of guys raving about Plasma Jet from Gaspari at the GYM lately! I rarely or never hear people talk about supplements in gym! I guess its worth a look ? you tell me has anyone tried this yet?

My wife pre-ordered some online for my b'day this week. They said it will be mailed out on Feb.1. I'll let you know. Probably doesn't stimulate you like the caffeine loaded pre-workout NO's. But you take one serving every other day and suppose to last all day. We will see.

[Aimin4strz]

We have recently placed a large # of phone order for the NaNO x9... :)

[Hardnutcheck]

Well I'm coming in here alot and posting about N.O explode because It's still sort of a trial for me. I do feel N.O exlode helping me out and I feel alot more focused. I really do believe it is also somewhat mental(Not taking anything away for N.O) I try to pump myself up even more with N.O, like I have a pre workout ritual of writing Hate when I tape up my wrist. Kind of dumb but helps me out.

[figure_girl]

I'm not 100% certain on what the breakdown is for body weight. That is, how many grams per pound of body weight. 10 Grams is a general amount for males of average size/weight. Therefore, I don't want to give you advise that I cannot back with anything proven. In general, I would stick with 2-3 doses per day. If 2, stay around 5 grams each dose. If 3 times per day, stay around 3 grams each. In my oppinion, I would take 3 grams before and after a workout mixed with water or a juice, and another 3 gram serving before bed with a casein protein shot.

Thanks, I am doing that now, but want to check. I appreciate your feedback!

[figure_girl]

Linda,
I only just now looked at your photo. I have to say, I should be asking you for diet and supplement advice. Whatever you're doing, just keep doing it and don't change up. You already look phenomenal. Are you upstate or NYC? Great job!

Thanks, I am in upstate NY. i am trying to add some more muscle for next comp. Thanks again!

[figure_girl]

Hey Pitjoe,, and Linda Parnes

Here is a little help with your glutamine intake.. Not everyone is as helpfull but BB.com has a good article .. i have copied a little from it..
Linda you seem to be in good shape. Pitjoe has given you some good advice.. as far as the glutamine.. its not the end all be all.. but will help with recovery a little.. i have worked with a lot of people and they have responded to diffrent amounts.. but may this might give you a little insight..
Filling your body with good antioxidants will help tremendously... pomergrant, R-ala, grape seed.. antioxidants will help with recovery as well...

Good Luck

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vm8.htm

Normal intake of glutamine from protein-rich foods is approximately 3 to 6g per day based on a protein intake of 0.8 - 1.6g/kg bodyweight. Therefore, if you are an 80kg male (176lbs) and you are consuming between 64g - 128g of protein per day (and since you are reading Bodybuilding.com, I bet your consumption is a lot more than this...) your glutamine intake from food sources is within this range. To convert your weight from pounds to kilograms, simply take your weight and times it by 0.4536. So if you weight 165 pounds, you would take 165 X 0.4536 to get approximately 75 kilograms.

Hi, Thanks for the info and advice! Any advice is appreciated. Take Care, Linda

[AmericanPsycho]

How is NO Black Powder? I have heard good things when comparing it to No Explode.

Also, what are some of the better/mainstream caffeine free NO products that are easier to find? I've heard SizeOn makes one.

[rhp150]

I am now on Vassive-NO i had bought NO Xplode twice. Vassive has 5 grams of argnine precursors, CEE and Monohydrate....ingredient wise i think its a pretty good product, and at most places a little cheaper than NO Xplode. But after using these products I think if your goal is to put on muscle your betting just stacking some gluatmine with creatine and a good gainer, NO Xplode gets hyped up i think it works and it tastes like candy...but for gains i probebly wont buy it again

[pittjoe33]

Thanks, I am in upstate NY. i am trying to add some more muscle for next comp. Thanks again!

I'm in Rochester, NY. Which competition will you be at?

[stevothedevo]

NO Xplode gets hyped up i think it works and it tastes like candy...but for gains i probebly wont buy it again


LMAO - nobody buys NO for gains.

There is absolutely no evidence at all that it achieves LBM gains - even the snake oil salesman who flog this rubbish make no claims of LBM gains....

Added to the biologically impossibility of vasodialation unless you injest 38 grams in one sitting....

Added to the FACT that all arginine derivatives convert to ornithine in the body in massive proportions.......

C'mon folks - show us ANY evidence that it can possibly do anything for you except lighten your wallet

[rhp150]

...thats what i said its overhyped..check bodybuilding.com it won muscle builder of the year...and im not sure why...it doesnt help you gain muscle and a lotta people think no xplode is like the holy grail of supplements...i think we are saying the same thing? ha

[stevothedevo]

...thats what i said its overhyped..check bodybuilding.com it won muscle builder of the year...and im not sure why...it doesnt help you gain muscle and a lotta people think no xplode is like the holy grail of supplements...i think we are saying the same thing? ha


lol

Yep!

We have a product with:

1. No research or scientific support. (In fact ALL the evidence PROVES it CANNOT work.)

2. No evidence at all of any link with LBM gains (Even though I have offered repeatedly to humbly apologise in any forum if ANY evidence can be produced.)

3. Wins best muscle builder.

4. Therefore speaks volumes about the intelligence of consumers here.

5. Speaks volumes about the quality of credible and accurate bodybuilding discussion at this forum.

I mean, where else will you find 1000's of posts on a completely disproven product..........

[rhp150]

ahh dont forget its a dollar a serving and you get around...maybe a gram of creatine..you get a fat boosting of caffeine(whoopy)...but n.o. xplode keeps flying off the shelves

[Hardnutcheck]

I am now on Vassive-NO i had bought NO Xplode twice. Vassive has 5 grams of argnine precursors, CEE and Monohydrate....ingredient wise i think its a pretty good product, and at most places a little cheaper than NO Xplode. But after using these products I think if your goal is to put on muscle your betting just stacking some gluatmine with creatine and a good gainer, NO Xplode gets hyped up i think it works and it tastes like candy...but for gains i probebly wont buy it again

I've been looking at vassive, I discovered it right after I bought my first bottle of N.O explode.

[Tate2bGreat]

IS anyone here familiar with Lee Labrada's SuperCharged? i bought a tub of it and i feel it is not affecting me in the way it did the first time. I have only used it 5 times already. I'll see what happens friday when i take it again. Any thought on this partiucular sup would be appreciated.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drryan24.htm

[rhp150]

I've been looking at vassive, I discovered it right after I bought my first bottle of N.O explode.

its not the best tasting supplement in the world but its a pretty good pre workout product. ON is a good company

[SCL_Mike]

Tried all the top ones out there and none of them compare to the pump and effectiveness of Armaggedon. Super Pump was pretty good but horrible stomach problems and the pump just didn't last very long. No Explode just did absolutely nothing for me. Armaggedon works every time and last for me. They've got a glycerol in powder form that is 75 times more effective than glycerol monostearate that everyone else is using and besides the pump it makes you feel like you can keep training harder.

[Hardnutcheck]

its not the best tasting supplement in the world but its a pretty good pre workout product. ON is a good company
I do like O.N. I'm taking their whey protein and pretty happy with their product. Wont hesitate to get more of their products.

[figure_girl]

I'm in Rochester, NY. Which competition will you be at?

Thinking about the comp in Saratoga for Musclemania.

[pittjoe33]

Thinking about the comp in Saratoga for Musclemania.

Nice. If I'm not mistaken, that's around August. About 4 hrs. away. Good luck!

[AHSTiger45]

Well I was lookin around today,and I have heard pretty good things about No2 black..atm Im takin naNOx9....is it any better? thxs for the help ^_^

[Juke n Move Jason]

For some weird reason, the caffeine free version of Xpand is getting it done. Normally, I'm a stimulant junky--I find my focus and attention is much higher when consuming couple hundred mg of caffeine or guarana with my NO as in Shotgun, FastTwitch, etc. The Xpand is a different beast entirely. It's more of a deep muscle burn and pump, like the 30th rep on a 225 lb set on bench, except it was on leg day and now I feel the pain. Yea!

[pittjoe33]

Well I was lookin around today,and I have heard pretty good things about No2 black..atm Im takin naNOx9....is it any better? thxs for the help ^_^

Best NO's based on popularity are probably Nano Vapor, Black Powder, NO-Xplode, SuperPump 250, and soon to be PlasmaJet.

[A_Atlas]

I've basically tried it all when it comes to pre-work out supplements. NO-XPLODE is the beginner creatine supplment, consisting mostly of hype such as it's high in caffine. Good product not going to lie, but the body gets used to it too fast. I was taking 3 scoops of it and not feeling the pump. Good recommendation for people who are trying to get into it. Next we have Gaspari's SuperPump250. This is a great product, not as much hype as NO-XPLODE, but like BSN the body, in my opinion, seems to adapt to it over time. I ended up taking 2-3 scoops of it and started to not feel the pump like I did the first time I took it. But when I can across VPX NO-SHOTGUN, I've never experienced a pump like I did all the other pre-work out NO's. It was amazing and still blows my mind. 1 scoop and I still have not gotten used to it. It's been almost 3 months and it continues to give the pumps needed to get ripped! I still have yet to experience Gaspari's Plasmajet, but when I do it will blow my mind like VPX's product. So if you think BSN's NO-XPLODE is good or Gaspari's SuperPump250, give VPX's NO-SHOTGUN a try unless you have 70$ to throw around on Plasmajet because word on the street is that is one of the best NO products around. I have yet to put it to the test!

[pittjoe33]

I've basically tried it all when it comes to pre-work out supplements. NO-XPLODE is the beginner creatine supplment, consisting mostly of hype such as it's high in caffine. Good product not going to lie, but the body gets used to it too fast. I was taking 3 scoops of it and not feeling the pump. Good recommendation for people who are trying to get into it. Next we have Gaspari's SuperPump250. This is a great product, not as much hype as NO-XPLODE, but like BSN the body, in my opinion, seems to adapt to it over time. I ended up taking 2-3 scoops of it and started to not feel the pump like I did the first time I took it. But when I can across VPX NO-SHOTGUN, I've never experienced a pump like I did all the other pre-work out NO's. It was amazing and still blows my mind. 1 scoop and I still have not gotten used to it. It's been almost 3 months and it continues to give the pumps needed to get ripped! I still have yet to experience Gaspari's Plasmajet, but when I do it will blow my mind like VPX's product. So if you think BSN's NO-XPLODE is good or Gaspari's SuperPump250, give VPX's NO-SHOTGUN a try unless you have 70$ to throw around on Plasmajet because word on the street is that is one of the best NO products around. I have yet to put it to the test!

PlasmaJet is high priced because it is exclusive to GNC currently. That all changes on Feb. 2 when it will be available online. One site is taking pre-orders. My wife purchased it for me pre-order for my b'day. I've seen it priced between $41 and $48 plus shipping at various sites. I'm sure bb.com will have it at some point. Didn't see it on the site here yet though.

[AHSTiger45]

hm....Im really thinking about gettin the PJ when it gets online because Ive heard its excellent....I hope it lives up to the hype ^^

[pittjoe33]

hm....Im really thinking about gettin the PJ when it gets online because Ive heard its excellent....I hope it lives up to the hype ^^

Check with bb.com to see if/when it will available here. There are several online listing it but showing out of stock, and one taking pre-orders and saying it will be available Feb. 2.

[Hardnutcheck]

Anyont have any info on Vassive-NO? http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/vassive-body-building-stack-p-230.html

Right now I'm in between that, VPX shotgun and Black Powder

[pittjoe33]

Anyont have any info on Vassive-NO? http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/vassive-body-building-stack-p-230.html

I really can't give a lot of insight. I had a couple samples that seemed to do well for me, but you can evaluate on two doses. I would request samples and try before you buy. I should have kept a log because I can't remember each. I actually printed the list of companies off of bb.com and attempted to locate a web page for every one of them. For the ones I found I requested samples of protein, NO, creatine, etc. I was shocked how many sent me samples. I literally had two shopping bags, separated by pre and post workout samples and another for just protein. It looked like I had gone trick-or-treating. It was a great way to sample a lot of products. Also, when I ran out of supplements, I mixed and matched for weeks and got by. I should have logged what I though of each and wrote down the web and email addresses.

[Hardnutcheck]

I just sent out email to VPX,MRI and ON for sample packages. So far ON is sending me a sample out on Monday. Hopefully I'll get all of them and report back to this thread, I'll be comparing them to N.O explode which I'm currently taking.

[A_Atlas]

PlasmaJet is high priced because it is exclusive to GNC currently. That all changes on Feb. 2 when it will be available online. One site is taking pre-orders. My wife purchased it for me pre-order for my b'day. I've seen it priced between $41 and $48 plus shipping at various sites. I'm sure bb.com will have it at some point. Didn't see it on the site here yet though.

True that...but why would only GNC have it? But seriously if it is less than 50$ they will make a lot of money off that product because Plasmajet is very potent and two of my friends who are taking it are nuts about it! Well worth it if it's 45-50$! Works well with VPX NO-SHOTGUN ;)

[Tate2bGreat]

IS anyone here familiar with Lee Labrada's SuperCharged? i bought a tub of it and i feel it is not affecting me in the way it did the first time. I have only used it 5 times already. I'll see what happens friday when i take it again. Any thought on this partiucular sup would be appreciated.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drryan24.htm

bump for info?

[pittjoe33]

True that...but why would only GNC have it? But seriously if it is less than 50$ they will make a lot of money off that product because Plasmajet is very potent and two of my friends who are taking it are nuts about it! Well worth it if it's 45-50$! Works well with VPX NO-SHOTGUN ;)

That was worked out between GNC and Gaspari nutrition that it would be a GNC exclusive for a predetermined amount of time. After which time it was open to others to sell. I hear good things and look forward to seeing for myself shortly.

[figure_girl]

Nice. If I'm not mistaken, that's around August. About 4 hrs. away. Good luck!

THanks, but we'll see what happens

[Cardmass]

True that...but why would only GNC have it? But seriously if it is less than 50$ they will make a lot of money off that product because Plasmajet is very potent and two of my friends who are taking it are nuts about it! Well worth it if it's 45-50$! Works well with VPX NO-SHOTGUN ;)




Fitnessfirstusa.com has it

[pittjoe33]

Fitnessfirstusa.com has it

They're the same as others. It's not available until February. You can find it cheaper than this place by $5.

[Oddball8945]

Chaos seems like an under rated pre workout product that also promotes NO

Thoughts?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ai/chaos.html

[Hardnutcheck]

Are there any risks on health taking NOX? Is it alright if I limit my uses from 5 to about 2-3 times a week?

[elstevo]

Are there any risks on health taking NOX? Is it alright if I limit my uses from 5 to about 2-3 times a week?

Yea your hair falls out and you brake out in ass pimples.On the upside though your balls may drop....:D

[pittjoe33]

Yea your hair falls out and you brake out in ass pimples.On the upside though your balls may drop....:D

I disagree. You're way off base. I tried it and mine didn't drop. On a serious note, are you talking about NOX-CG3, NOX Surge, NOx2, Nox 3000? If it's cg3, that looks like an interesting formula. Someone that has taken the product can probably tell you if they experience any sides. My guess is none probably.

[elstevo]

I disagree. You're way off base. I tried it and mine didn't drop. On a serious note, are you talking about NOX-CG3, NOX Surge, NOx2, Nox 3000? If it's cg3, that looks like an interesting formula. Someone that has taken the product can probably tell you if they experience any sides. My guess is none probably.

I hope your not taking these posts too seriously Joe.You give these products way too much credit.All these products are is caffiene with some arginine really.There not affective enough to give you sides.This thread is for newbies, i just hang around for the amusement value.Im sick of reading posts like "whats better black powder or shock therapy?" or "i'm 16 if i take sp250 will it stunt my growth?".....:D

[rynvhe]

Anyone ever try 1-NO by Ergopharm? It's pretty damn cheap to boot!

[pittjoe33]

I hope your not taking these posts too seriously Joe.You give these products way too much credit.All these products are is caffiene with some arginine really.There not affective enough to give you sides.This thread is for newbies, i just hang around for the amusement value.Im sick of reading posts like "whats better black powder or shock therapy?" or "i'm 16 if i take sp250 will it stunt my growth?".....:D

Bro, I was joking around when I disagreed and that my balls still haven't dropped. I just turned 39 and have 2 kids. I hope they have. I read your post and thought it was humerous and just chimed in. But I also realized that the question came from someone who was only 19 and is asking an innocent question so I capped off the humor with a ligit answer, that's all. I'm not passionate enough about the subject to argue any points.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

currently on white flood by Controlled Labs.. the serving size is so small i can snort that **** like its blue magic. nothing more to say, excellent product.

i have also used noxplode, sp250, and no-shotgun. someone reccomend me another one plz...
vasocharge next?

thanks very much. white flood is an amazing product and one of the best values around at less than 40 dollars for 50 full workout days of use :)

[FitIron]

Vaso for me has been the very best pre-stim I've used so far.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/vaso.htm


I have tried NO-XPLODE, I felt it when it activated, but lost the effects in about 10 minutes.
SuperPump was about the same.

The VasoCharge I feel for over an hour, and walk out of the gym with an unbelievable pump.

I have not yet tried White Flood, but I have heard good things about it.

I might try it, but it is sometimes hard to switch products when the one you use is already working well.

[FitIron]

thanks very much. white flood is an amazing product and one of the best values around at less than 40 dollars for 50 full workout days of use :)


Vaso for me has been the very best pre-stim I've used so far.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/vaso.htm


I have tried NO-XPLODE, I felt it when it activated, but lost the effects in about 10 minutes.
SuperPump was about the same.

The VasoCharge I feel for over an hour, and walk out of the gym with an unbelievable pump.

I have not yet tried White Flood, but I have heard good things about it.

I might try it, but it is sometimes hard to switch products when the one you use is already working well.



Sounds like a good value. 50 workouts for less than 40 bucks.....

[mangrove jack]

stims **** up ur sex drive

[txmusic]

BSN's Nitrix is great! It gives you a lot of all-day energy.

[ricphoenix]

I still enjoy NO Xplode and I have not had the "wear off" effect that many people say they get.

I will try the SuperPump, Vaso and White Flood though. I like trying new products even though most of the formulations appear to be very similar.

[Hardnutcheck]

Can I take Purple Wraath along side with black powder or N.O-explode?

[hardgainerwill]

I am currently into my 5th week of dymatize expand (pill version) and I must say I am very pleased with it.....I can tell when it kicks in because i am so much more focused and the focus I get goes straight to the muscle group I work that day......Also the pumps are great I feel like my muscles are burning and about to shred....its like I can actually feel my muscles tearing....its unreal.....also I sustain the pumps well after I leave the gym......I highly recommend it....it has a little creatine and some caffein too.....so if you are not tolerable to the caffein I dont suggest you take it...however its more than just a caffein rush

[Rajko85]

BSN NO-Xplode, nitrix and cell mass worked ok for me but it gets very pricey for average gains...u can get roids cheaper lolz...which is pretty sad!

[GrkLaxPlaya32]

ok so like idk if this crap is working cause the 1st day was good but i dont really feel a pump with it....sooo idk i know SuperPump250 works...but does any1 know if there are certain directions on how to take nanox9 besides taking it 2x a day? so yeah dont take it.

WHATs a good product that can create VASCULARITY??!?

[PetethePianist]

WHATs a good product that can create VASCULARITY??!?

water.

...more than you're drinking now.

[SMallory]

There is no actualy study to show that arginine actually improves strenth and size of muscle fibers!
It may seem to work, only because the "pump", which you can get from a good diet and not wasting money on NO products.

[elstevo]

There is no actualy study to show that arginine actually improves strenth and size of muscle fibers!
It may seem to work, only because the "pump", which you can get from a good diet and not wasting money on NO products.

Well said mate.

[cmanns]

NO Explode seems to be the most popular and for good reason.. it takes a real long time to adapt to the product... but at first even one scoop will give you super pumps

[smith06]

Ive never used an NO product before and was skeptical. I used Black Powder for the first time tonite. And it is intense. I was lifting much heavier than before, making my old weights seem like child's play.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Sounds like a good value. 50 workouts for less than 40 bucks.....
absolutely :)

I still enjoy NO Xplode and I have not had the "wear off" effect that many people say they get.

I will try the SuperPump, Vaso and White Flood though. I like trying new products even though most of the formulations appear to be very similar.
thanks for giving white flood a shot, however it is far from "similar" to other products in the category.

Can I take Purple Wraath along side with black powder or N.O-explode?yes, it will also stack well with white flood and give you your beta alanine for the day as well :)

[Miles_P]

BSN's N.O. Xplode has got to be one of the best Nitric Oxide Supplements out. There is an enhanced recovery time and the pump coming from this product is quite nice. The caffeine content is pretty high and has a pretty low amount of creatine in it.

[Buckhunter]

Ive never used an NO product before and was skeptical. I used Black Powder for the first time tonite. And it is intense. I was lifting much heavier than before, making my old weights seem like child's play.

Sounds like a good product, is it worth the money?

[Hardnutcheck]

I'll be picking up white flood or black powder on Feb 1 from GNC with my golds card and also Purple wraath to add to my stack

[MacDzl33]

Black powder has been a great addition for me. I lift first thing in the morning, and it really gets me ready to go quickly.

[tknous7]

I've taken quite the Variety of N.O. products, I started with N.O. Explod when i was in highschool, first workout with it I was throwing weight around i never thought i could at that age, everytime after that was a let down, i took it for 3 months for some reason, and never had the effect it did the first time i took it. After that I picked up a tub of nano vapor, and loved the results...massive pumps, good gains on strength, but it gave me the screaming sh*ts, so i moved to SuperPump 250, and it had the same effects in the weightroom, but none of the stomach effects, then my friend suggested N30, so i tried a bottle and loved it, but in order to get the intensity i wanted i had to drink an energy drink with it. So after that i decided to try this new thing called AlteredState, i didn't take it like it was recommended, at 80 bucks a bottle 8 tablets a day, the bottle went way too fast, and I feel that i got a better pump with N30. I finally got a tub of Black powder, and after three weeks of taking it, I have seen an incredible amount of strength increases, by bench has already went up 20 solid pounds as well as I can see a difference in my size. I also have taken Xyeince NOX and it worked decent, but i didn't get the effects that previous N.O. had gave me. So, my list from Best to worst would have to be:
Best- Black Powder
SuperPump 250, and N30
Nano Vapor
Xyeince NOX
Altered State
N.O. Explod

[smith06]

Sounds like a good product, is it worth the money?

i caught it on sale at GNC. 49.99. I'm loving it so far. After a week or to I'll give u an update.

[cbsxr800]

water.

...more than you're drinking now.

LOVE the quote, It doesn't matter how much you can lift but how slow it's let down and controling the wieght. It just makes me laugh when I see guys at my gym bouncing the bar off their chest for a rep or two. I liked the vapor and amplodan, do you like that gackic? thought of trying it. If Mr. o takes it it's gotta be good. Nanovapor did give me insane pumps and strength. cbsxr800

[elstevo]

Sounds like a good product, is it worth the money?

WTF?

[WannaGetLean]

Sp250 Ftw

Amen Superpump250 in Blue Raspberry Ice.. Can't go wrong at all.. 2-3 scoops is where it's at.

I tried out No-xplode to see what the big deal was.. i took 2 scoops that a friend gave me, i had absolutely NOTHING..It didn't do Sh*t for me. I couldn't believe that i cheated on my tub of superpump for No-xplode..never again.. i threw out the scoop that was left over from the BSN..
Using SP250 I could feel a difference in my first workout.. I will keep using Gaspari NO products because i think they are the best!! :)

Oh and the flavor of No Xplode that i tried was this sick orange flavor that seriously almost made me puke while drinking it.. ugghhh.. never again.. SP all the way :)

[jersvr4]

The best hands down NO2 product is the first NO2 made by MRI. I was stuck on my bench press for a year or so at 375lbs i started taking MRI's NO2 and within 2 or 3 month my bench climbed to about 500lbs. I have tryed NO exsplode and it works great if you need help staying foced and need energy during your work out. But as far as for muscle mass and strengh MRI NO2 is the only way to go as of now

[arenadog]

who makes this "white flood"... i have been using NO-Xplode for 2 years and it worked great from the first time i took it, which was a powerliftin meet and it added to the adrenalin rush perfectly. just picked up "Muscle Asylum Projects" Altered State NO... seemed to work ok although i prefer powder over pills, this stuff is relative to MRI's NO2- 0ver 200lbs 5 pills twice a day. very seldom do i give products that require that a chance but i thot thier fat burner "Arson" was great so im givin their product line a shot..... heard their protein "Freak Fix" (i beleive) tastes amazing though ii think the protein g's are lower than others. once again this "white flood" where it from and could someone briefly name some other NO's and their companys? sum of the posts do not explain where the NO they are talking about is from

Thanks...

[AHSTiger45]

Allright my bro at GNC said he can get me some supps for a good price...so

MRI NO2 Black

or!

MuscleTech naNOx9

thxs for the help ^_^

[Akamoondog31]

I have used NO Explode for about 1 1/2 years now off and on, and the concentration / intensity leavel is unparralelled!! The only thing that is bad about the product, and I am sure happens with heavy use of all products, your body gets used to its effects. I usually go about 4 weeks on 2 weeks off!

[Hardnutcheck]

who makes this "white flood"... i have been using NO-Xplode for 2 years and it worked great from the first time i took it, which was a powerliftin meet and it added to the adrenalin rush perfectly. just picked up "Muscle Asylum Projects" Altered State NO... seemed to work ok although i prefer powder over pills, this stuff is relative to MRI's NO2- 0ver 200lbs 5 pills twice a day. very seldom do i give products that require that a chance but i thot thier fat burner "Arson" was great so im givin their product line a shot..... heard their protein "Freak Fix" (i beleive) tastes amazing though ii think the protein g's are lower than others. once again this "white flood" where it from and could someone briefly name some other NO's and their companys? sum of the posts do not explain where the NO they are talking about is from

Thanks...

Controlled Lab makes White Flood

[Ricky1128]

Animal Pump. Felt it immediately and always got great pumps in the gym. My body never adapted to it like it did with N.O.-Xplode, it was very consistent which IMO is very important in an NO supplement.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

who makes this "white flood"... i have been using NO-Xplode for 2 years and it worked great from the first time i took it, which was a powerliftin meet and it added to the adrenalin rush perfectly. just picked up "Muscle Asylum Projects" Altered State NO... seemed to work ok although i prefer powder over pills, this stuff is relative to MRI's NO2- 0ver 200lbs 5 pills twice a day. very seldom do i give products that require that a chance but i thot thier fat burner "Arson" was great so im givin their product line a shot..... heard their protein "Freak Fix" (i beleive) tastes amazing though ii think the protein g's are lower than others. once again this "white flood" where it from and could someone briefly name some other NO's and their companys? sum of the posts do not explain where the NO they are talking about is from

Thanks...


Controlled Lab makes White Flood
sure do, great stuff and cheaper per serving than most of the other NO products. :)

[knvb8]

I worked at Max Muscle for 2 years and have been using supplements off and on for about 4 years and my favorite NO product by far is Superpump 250. A scoop and a half and I'm good to go everytime.

I used NO Explode and it worked for about a week then didn't have the same effect.

Pump-Tech, garbage.

Muscletechs Na9X or whatever is a pretty good No but powder works a lot better for me.

It seems like NO's in pill form are good for all day pumps like Nitrix and NaX9.

[TheLeBlanc]

I would also go with BSN NO Explode, I have gotten the best results from it.

[El_Fuelte]

Guys the best N.O. is NanoVapor for sure. Ive tried them all; superpump 250, N.O.-xplode, supercharge, and NanoVapor is the best. its even soo intense that the first time i took 2 scoops, i had to sit down at the gym for about an hour drinking water, giving my body time to cleanse itself somewhat.

[Hardnutcheck]

Using blackpowder today for the first time, will let you guys know what I think.

[BethaneyJayne]

Ok, I'm just a girlie, so go easy! But I walked into my supp. store looking for extra energy for my night time workout.
She sold me superpump250, it was $99, way out of budget (australian), but I love it!
I did a shoulder and tri workout and I actually got in a whole extra exercise for my delts within my usual hour! Then after driving home from gym I went for a run - NEVER have i had the energy to do this before. And now I actually have shoulder DOMS - yay! first time ever in my shoulders, and I'm sure its from that extra delt exercise, so im pretty happy with Superpump250, not looking forward to coughing up alomost $100 every few weeks though!

[miketl]

if ur bench went from 375 to around 500 in 2-3 months its not legal i will bet on that.

[miketl]

dam its 100$in austraila its under 50$ here.

[Takuan]

Ok, I'm just a girlie, so go easy! But I walked into my supp. store looking for extra energy for my night time workout.
She sold me superpump250, it was $99, way out of budget (australian), but I love it!
I did a shoulder and tri workout and I actually got in a whole extra exercise for my delts within my usual hour! Then after driving home from gym I went for a run - NEVER have i had the energy to do this before. And now I actually have shoulder DOMS - yay! first time ever in my shoulders, and I'm sure its from that extra delt exercise, so im pretty happy with Superpump250, not looking forward to coughing up alomost $100 every few weeks though!

Would it be cheaper to have somebody ship a few boxes of it over there from the US?

[BethaneyJayne]

yeah, it probably would be cheaper, good idea.
I cant believe how cheap stuff is in the US!
thanks for the suggestion.

[deserusan]

Ok, I'm just a girlie, so go easy! But I walked into my supp. store looking for extra energy for my night time workout.
She sold me superpump250, it was $99, way out of budget (australian), but I love it!
I did a shoulder and tri workout and I actually got in a whole extra exercise for my delts within my usual hour! Then after driving home from gym I went for a run - NEVER have i had the energy to do this before. And now I actually have shoulder DOMS - yay! first time ever in my shoulders, and I'm sure its from that extra delt exercise, so im pretty happy with Superpump250, not looking forward to coughing up alomost $100 every few weeks though!

Thanks Bethany. We like you too! :)

[TheDukeUSMC]

NO Xplode

Lemon or Orange

I've found to make it last longer to take smaller scoops that what it says

[DrnkMnky]

From my experience, the best NO Supplement hands down goes to PlasmaJet and NO Limits.

[Walnut]

I've been taking PurpleWrAAth for sometime now and thought highly of it, then on my last order I got the White Flood Combo with PurpleWrAAth...

Well all I can say is that 2 scoops of White Flood taken 60-30min before workout and then 2 scoops of PW right 30-10mins before seems to be a lethal pump combo for me.

After finishing the White Flood I can feel the blood going to my skin/muscles, it's not an OMG MY FLESH IS BURNING sensation I can get with a large Niacin dosages but those are uncomfortable especially with the skin redness. White Flood gives me a good blood feeling and gets me amp'd and ready to try and destroy the volume I did the week before.

I can't compare to N.O. Xplode cause I've never taken it, but I'm very satisfied and I think if NOX gave me any more of a pump/rush I might as well just be injecting adrenaline into my heart Pulp Fiction Style

[Fastermaster]

I'm getting my nos from my protein...it's allmax...I love the effects and it does do wonders for healing time. I have some really bad injuries that I'm healing from and it's helping him get throug them.

[Austin109]

so far i think ive tried 5 no products. they all work pretty well but heres what i got in terms of gains/ vascularity/ intensity/energy

Strength gain- armageddon hands down. 35 lbs to bench 60 squat in 1 tub
vascularity- no-explode. take two weeks on. 1 week off.
intensity- sp 250
energy- sp250

sp250 works really well on those days you just need a kick in the ass. id also look into animal pump

[imawesome]

i have only ever used no xplode so i really cant say too much, but it worked great for me. strength, intensity, and focus are all better

[tknous7]

N.O. Explode, wouldn't recommend it to anyone, it can't compare to any of the other N.O. supplements, but by far black powder is THE BEST. I've been taking it for about a month and have had an incredible amount of gains in strength. I've always been able to be in the gym for 3 hours working out, but with Black Powder, its always a non-stop 3 hour best workout of the month, but rather than it happening once a month, it happens everyday.

[JMoney..]

i was once a huge supporter of NO xplode but the caffeine is a problem sometimes. its a little much. truly, I've actually gotten a pretty good pump from the six star kind thats at walmart haha

[peteyr1]

Currently on my 1month off cycle of No Xplode,and so far I have noticed the difference from not using it. While yes towards the end of my 3month cycle I was starting to increase my dosage as it wasnt having the same effect,while this supp cops alot of bashing,Ive been pleased with it. Next up though I'll be giving White Flood a go,as seems to be a great product,and have been stoaked with CL Green MAG so will see how it goes.


... I've always been able to be in the gym for 3 hours working out,

-its always a non-stop 3 hour best workout of the month...


Slightly off topic..what are you doing in the gym for 3 hours buddy?? :confused:

[pu12en12g]

I've been taking PurpleWrAAth for sometime now and thought highly of it, then on my last order I got the White Flood Combo with PurpleWrAAth...

Well all I can say is that 2 scoops of White Flood taken 60-30min before workout and then 2 scoops of PW right 30-10mins before seems to be a lethal pump combo for me.

After finishing the White Flood I can feel the blood going to my skin/muscles, it's not an OMG MY FLESH IS BURNING sensation I can get with a large Niacin dosages but those are uncomfortable especially with the skin redness. White Flood gives me a good blood feeling and gets me amp'd and ready to try and destroy the volume I did the week before.


Awesome :cool:

[alvinali6]

there will be pros and cons, but I like MHP anadrox. I tried sample of muscletech nanox & vpx shotgun, I think they're both good products also.

[tknous7]

Slightly off topic..what are you doing in the gym for 3 hours buddy?? :confused:

Lifting, what do you think goes on in a gym?...and i threw that in there to facilitate my point of Black Powder being the best N.O. because its an intense 3 hours.

[imawesome]

Lifting, what do you think goes on in a gym?...and i threw that in there to facilitate my point of Black Powder being the best N.O. because its an intense 3 hours.

don't you think that thats just a little bit too long to be in the gym (by like 1-2 hours)?

[tknous7]

[QUOTE=imawesome;124721291]don't you think that thats just a little bit too long to be in the gym (by like 1-2 hours)?[/QUOTE

Not at all. Granted 3 hours is way to long for a lot of people to be lifting, but for me, 3 hard hours is just a good days work.

[brazilian86]

Dude you're 5'9 and 160 something pounds working out for three hours, you need a lot of researching to do...I'm not trying to flame you or anything, it's way too much, do 1 hour and a half tops, that's including your cardio. And by the way SUPERPUMP250 is so good, 20 minutes before hiting the gym on an empty stomach and I'm having the best workout of my life!!!! 3 Thumbs UP for SuperPump250!!!!!!

[miketl]

he should do what he like to do same as everybody else.

[DTill]

The first supp I ever tried was NO-xplode, which I thought was the greatest **** since sliced bread. The next tub, the effects were less (recommended cycles were made). The following, the effects were non-existant. Still havnt tried anything new, but Im not a fan of NO-xplode.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've been taking PurpleWrAAth for sometime now and thought highly of it, then on my last order I got the White Flood Combo with PurpleWrAAth...

Well all I can say is that 2 scoops of White Flood taken 60-30min before workout and then 2 scoops of PW right 30-10mins before seems to be a lethal pump combo for me.

After finishing the White Flood I can feel the blood going to my skin/muscles, it's not an OMG MY FLESH IS BURNING sensation I can get with a large Niacin dosages but those are uncomfortable especially with the skin redness. White Flood gives me a good blood feeling and gets me amp'd and ready to try and destroy the volume I did the week before.

I can't compare to N.O. Xplode cause I've never taken it, but I'm very satisfied and I think if NOX gave me any more of a pump/rush I might as well just be injecting adrenaline into my heart Pulp Fiction Style
awesome, that is a potent and popular stack. also a great value since each tub lasts multiple months :eek:

Currently on my 1month off cycle of No Xplode,and so far I have noticed the difference from not using it. While yes towards the end of my 3month cycle I was starting to increase my dosage as it wasnt having the same effect,while this supp cops alot of bashing,Ive been pleased with it. Next up though I'll be giving White Flood a go,as seems to be a great product,and have been stoaked with CL Green MAG so will see how it goes.




Slightly off topic..what are you doing in the gym for 3 hours buddy?? :confused:
looking forward to your feedback :)

[redrider]

I like NO-Explode! I am trying SP250 and I can tell you Im not getting much from it. The reason I changed to SP250 was the NO-Explode had diminished returns after the first 6 weeks or so. I think that If i will cycle the NO-Explode that it will work alright.

You have to remember that all of us look differently and have different body types and different DNA. Thats why different products work different ways for everyone. Your best bet is to find another member here who uses some of the same products that you do and if they get similar results to yours on those products then it only makes sense that the new product, they recomend, will work well for you also.

I will finish the tub of SP250 and then try NO-Explode again after a 2 week lay off. In the mean time I have found a place where I can get PlasmaJet for about 49 dollars and have ordered 2 boxes. I will add that to the SP250 and see what that does. I think that if and when BB.com starts selling PlasmaJet it will be about the same price. Wish me Luck. . . . . . . . . .Red

[tknous7]

Dude you're 5'9 and 160 something pounds working out for three hours, you need a lot of researching to do...I'm not trying to flame you or anything, it's way too much, do 1 hour and a half tops, that's including your cardio. And by the way SUPERPUMP250 is so good, 20 minutes before hiting the gym on an empty stomach and I'm having the best workout of my life!!!! 3 Thumbs UP for SuperPump250!!!!!!

I'm 5'9 160 something working out for 3 hours at a time, come see if you can even come close to finishing one of my workouts, then tell me i need to do my ****ing research.

[TheChampionMan]

I'm 5'9 160 something working out for 3 hours at a time, come see if you can even come close to finishing one of my workouts, then tell me i need to do my ****ing research.

I think brazilian86 is trying to say that you're over-training. And yes, 3 hours and barely being able to finish your workout IS over-training.

[TheChampionMan]

By the way, have to give the nod to Controlled Labs' White Blood. Been using it off and on for a couple of years now. Always gives results, and it's a pure N.O product..so you know you're not getting anything from stims of caffiene.

Just learn how to use it properly and you're going to see gains.

[tknous7]

I think brazilian86 is trying to say that you're over-training. And yes, 3 hours and barely being able to finish your workout IS over-training.

You've mixed my words my friend, I did not say I can barely finish my workout, I said HE wouldn't be able to. I've been lifting for quite a while, and I know my body, and I know I'm not over training. I'm sorry if it seems "odd" to ya'll. Unless you know my body better than I do, how would you make a statement to tell a person he is over training, or "need to do alot of research" simply on the length of his workout? I've gotten results, and have worked my way up to the workouts I am at now, I wouldn't do it unless it gives results, and thats why we all train. So please, don't insult me. Since this is a N.O. forum, I stand by my original post, Black Powder is the best N.O. product.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

By the way, have to give the nod to Controlled Labs' White Blood. Been using it off and on for a couple of years now. Always gives results, and it's a pure N.O product..so you know you're not getting anything from stims of caffiene.

Just learn how to use it properly and you're going to see gains.

awesome, yup it was our first product and still lives up to the good feedback it originally received :)

[-Aaron-]

I don't understand the need for N.O. boosters now... :confused:

[redrider]

You've mixed my words my friend.


Ok, Remember that you asked for this. One picture speaks a thousand words. I see your avatar, most of us can see it.

Why would I get directions on how to go to Chicago from someone who hasnt been there yet? The same reason I wold get instructions on how to get big from a person who hasnt been there yet! I know this is a thread about N.O. products. I really think that we are all interested in results and most N.O. products only give you another 10 to 15 percent more of a pump than normal. The reason it feels like so much more is because its new and we havent been there before.

You stated that the product that you use Is the best N.O. product, I guess that means that you get amazing pumps from it. The question I have to ask is No matter what it feels like can anyone tell that you have a pump? For me, and I would guess most others here, thats the main goal. To get a good pump and have someone, who can see it, ask how I did it.

In other words Ive been to Chicago and they want directions! Simply put if no one can see that you have a pump, do you really have a pump? Not really. . . . . . . . .Red

[smith06]

tknous7 is my buddy and Ive followed his posts...if you read his others he's got a list of NO products he has used, I would consider him a reliable resource on supplement information.

[Rusty_S]

Could we just do a poll since this thread is so long and from a poll people can easily see what is your favorite.

[ATownDRock]

I've taken a couple of NO products and got mixed results. The first one i took was Energized Xpand NO Reactor and whenever I took it, I had to hit the bathroom within 20 minutes and it gave me the shakes.

Then I took NO Explode and had good results with pumps and with the energy boost.

I don't think that working out for 3 hours is over training your body either. I've gone around 3 hours a couple of times when i'm working out if i just had a couple good meals and took NO Explode or an energy drink and got a second wind halfway through the workout. My workout yesterday of Back, Traps and Shoulders went around 2-2.5 hours. Sometimes torching your body like that feels awesome

[mdmk]

1st time here..I have been taking No Explode for two weeks now and I'm loving every minute of it..the pumps are great, Then again it's the only NO product I've taken

[tknous7]

Ok, Remember that you asked for this. One picture speaks a thousand words. I see your avatar, most of us can see it.
. . . .Red

Whats with the negativity toward me?...This forum is simply for people to express their views on the best N.O. Product, if you followed my posts you would see the sups that i have taken, which have been quite a few N.O. sups. I do apologize for not being able to pump up before a photo shoot that I do myself. I also apologize to you for not taking pictures of each specific muscle group after a workout. Have I ever once said anything about me knowing every in and out of getting big?....Don't think I have made any comment of the sort. So for you to make an accusation of "Remember that you asked for this." is simply coming from out in left field. But the thing I do know is that I have tried many N.O. products, and from my experience, Black Powder is indeed the best. Thats my point of posting on this thread. I joined body space so people could give me some encouragement/advice/critiques on my appearance, not to be harassed by people with nothing on their page. Like you said, "One picture speaks a thousand words." So if you want to critique me, encourage me, or whatever, please...feel free to examine my body space and leave your comments on there. Thank you, and Happy lifting!

[peteyr1]

looking forward to your feedback :)


Heard so many good things about WF,so really looking forward to it.

CHeers,

PS:Thanks for the suggestions with my Green MAG dosage..been on it for a few weeks now and really enjoying it.:D No more feeling crook during my workouts,so all going well.

[TheDukeUSMC]

I'm trying the NO Xplode Lemon Lime flavor very tasty

O/T I'm going to look into the WF/PW combo

[cabocoleman]

I'm 5'9 160 something working out for 3 hours at a time, come see if you can even come close to finishing one of my workouts, then tell me i need to do my ****ing research.

Sorry my man but I have to agree with the others, 3 hour workout, you are way over training. You may know your body but you don't what is good for your results. I only workout for 45 minutes to an hour tops. With shorter rest periods. But most of the time, I'm at 45 minutes to 50.

[wlf.vik83]

BSN NO-XPLODE works great..
I have been taking it for 10 weeks. It works like a bomb.
Puts me into overdrive...especially on shoulders and arms day.

Although.. the body tends to get used to it and you will need to add more scoops to get the same kind of pump after a few weeks.

Overall.. really puts you in the zone!! Full marks to BSN NO-XPLODE.

[TellTheTruth]

I have been taking "Niox" from Nutrex and the pump has been incredible.
It is a liquid capsule and it goes into your system fast.
Also for me, I got more pump from Max Muscle's Full Blown Extreme than BSN NO Explode.
Seriously though you got to try out this Niox.... incredible.

[Pookie_B]

presently combining any pill form AAKG supp. with NO-Explode and getting great results. I will be trying Superpump250 in the near future, but as of now it's NO-Explode.

I've been stacking the same as Dungeon1 for these purposes ~ The old chestnut, NO-Xplode, taken with extra AAKG caps for a boost in Arginine levels per portion.
I've used Aviforme NOX caps, which were acceptable, but at only 500mg per cap, are far inferior, imho, to what i use now, which is Olimp Labs AAKG Extreme. These have 1250mg of AAKG per cap, which is much more impressive, and saves having to take ridiculous numbers of pills to get a decent dose.
Money-wise, the Olimp AAKG Extreme work out much more economically sensible than the Aviforme NOX, at the prices i paid on ebay.
As regards the NO-Xplode, i find it surprisingly effective, in the many ways already discussed, but after this cycle i will most likely try one of it's similar market rivals, such as MT NaNO Vapor or Gaspari Superpump 250, to change things up a little.
I will more than likely stick with the Olimp AAKG Extreme caps, whatever other NO/Energy Pre-Workout drink i stack it with, as im more than happy with the superior pumps, higher dose per cap and economic sense of this product for me.
HTH! x

[Alec Trevelyan]

I have been taking "Niox" from Nutrex and the pump has been incredible.
It is a liquid capsule and it goes into your system fast.
Also for me, I got more pump from Max Muscle's Full Blown Extreme than BSN NO Explode.
Seriously though you got to try out this Niox.... incredible.

Ive heard good things about Niox also from others who have used it.

[CLK-GTR]

I did like NO Xplode and have tried samples of a few others, but the other day i bought Animal Pump. At first i thought it hadnt worked because you dont get that hyper-energetic jittery feeling you do on NOXplode, but at the end the pump was almost painful. I've never ever had it that strong before, and best of all you can drop the caffeine pill if you want to. NOXplode doesnt belong on the same forum as Animal Pump, let alone the same thread or the same sentence.

[hyperdamtrofee]

sod that ****, 5 sets of 25 on any muscle and your pumpin anyway, but ye heard good things about animal pump

[Ni4iland]

Hi guys Which of these 2 products is better?
I'm thinkin of getting the Animal Pump.

Any advises?

[montefreak]

I am currently taking No-Xplode and feel nothing from it. I have used superpump 250 before and loved it, problem is it had me running to the toilet after every workout.

[Ni4iland]

montefreak,

I gues it depends on how long were you takin it. Sometimes if you use such a product for more than 1 month for example, your body starts being like addicted to it and the results are worse than before!

[CLK-GTR]

Hi guys Which of these 2 products is better?
I'm thinkin of getting the Animal Pump.

Any advises?

Having taken both i have to say Animal Pump hands down. Both will give you results, but i much prefer the way Animal Pump goes about getting you there. NOX made me feel like i was going to either turn into the incredible Hulk or have a heart attack. Massive energy boost but very little in the way of increasing the pump and only mild strength increases. So far Animal Pump gives me no noticeable energy increases, but im adding 2-3 reps on every exercise and the pump is like nothing ive ever had before....and im doing a HIT programme so its not like im doing hundreds of sets.

The one i want to try next is White Flood

[imawesome]

I am currently taking No-Xplode and feel nothing from it. I have used superpump 250 before and loved it, problem is it had me running to the toilet after every workout.

how many scoops were you taking with each work out?

[Samuels]

who makes black powder?

[DavidKH]

who makes black powder?

MRI you can get it at GNC

[hokiebird]

If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)

Hands down NO Explode is the bomb!!! So much pump, strength, and stamina... must try it.

[wdballer2431]

I've used NO products in the past and never really thought much of them (used No explode and superpump250) . I've been lagging in the gym lately and haven't been seeing much gains. Just started using Controlled Labs White Flood. The energy and mental feeling I get is rediculous, im just hoping it doesnt wear off like other NO products do. Props to controlled labs tho...Definitley recommend white flood

[aeroguy]

I cam home from school this past christmas break and a lot of the guys at the gym were crazy about NanoVapor so I bought a bottle.

The first time i used it was on a leg day and after each set I got light headed. After that it just made my stomach upset and took away my focus. Some days it gave me a good pump, and some days I didn't really feel anything. I've gotten the same pump it did give me from a cup of coffee on the way to the gym.

[alika55]

Having taken both i have to say Animal Pump hands down. Both will give you results, but i much prefer the way Animal Pump goes about getting you there. NOX made me feel like i was going to either turn into the incredible Hulk or have a heart attack. Massive energy boost but very little in the way of increasing the pump and only mild strength increases. So far Animal Pump gives me no noticeable energy increases, but im adding 2-3 reps on every exercise and the pump is like nothing ive ever had before....and im doing a HIT programme so its not like im doing hundreds of sets.

The one i want to try next is White Flood


How does Animal Pump treat your stomach? Is it as bad as NO-X?

[jeremyleinen]

I used a sample of animal pump a week or two ago. It seemed pretty good, though theres only so much you can tell from one workout.

I've been using White Flood here recently. Gives me energy, I like the caffeine and the beta alanine. As far as pump goes, its certainly an improvement... But, I really thought the pump I would get from NO Xplode was better. I'll probably go with that next time I get a booster.

[Samuels]

I have'nt taken a whole jug of NO Explode but my boy gave me a scoop and a 1/2 everyday last week. It defintely had me focused and i did more sets then i normally would and did'nt wanna stop my workouts. I did'nt get a huge pump feeling though.

I just bought a tub of superpump 250 because it was on sale and the guy at vitamin shop swore it was better then NO EXPLODE. I've only taken it for 3 workout days so far.

But honestly No explode and SUPERPUMP250 seem very similiar to me even the ingreidants are almost idential.

The only difference i could really see was Superpump says Mono on it and Explode says CEE.

Whats is the difference??

I've been taking 2 caps of sci-fit kreaklyan before and after workouts for about a month. But stacking it with either product my strenght has noticably went up the past 2 weeks.

I'd like to try black powder and white flood next. I even wanna try green mag but i heard it bloats and you lose your gains afterwards.

[psych]

I have'nt taken a whole jug of NO Explode but my boy gave me a scoop and a 1/2 everyday last week. It defintely had me focused and i did more sets then i normally would and did'nt wanna stop my workouts. I did'nt get a huge pump feeling though.

I just bought a tub of superpump 250 because it was on sale and the guy at vitamin shop swore it was better then NO EXPLODE. I've only taken it for 3 workout days so far.

But honestly No explode and SUPERPUMP250 seem very similiar to me even the ingreidants are almost idential.

The only difference i could really see was Superpump says Mono on it and Explode says CEE.

Whats is the difference??

I've been taking 2 caps of sci-fit kreaklyan before and after workouts for about a month. But stacking it with either product my strenght has noticably went up the past 2 weeks.

I'd like to try black powder and white flood next. I even wanna try green mag but i heard it bloats and you lose your gains afterwards.

where did you hear that about green mag? i've not had that happen and neither have many people (the bloat) and you'll always lose your gains if you stop training or eating right only

[ND4life]

Everyone on here is talking about how NO-Explode isn't worth the money and your just drinking caffeine. I hear names like Creatine, Arginine, and Protein thown out there. What's the best supplement or combination of supplements to take if your looking to build muscle and "get ripped" both pre and post-workout?

[WUPride2011]

I have been using NO Xplode for a few months now (cycled off of it for one of those months). The first time I used it, it was phenomenal. Since then however, I don't notice the same effect (even after cycling off of it for a month). For this reason, I bought SuperPump 250 yesterday, and once my NO is gone, I plan on trying that.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'd like to try black powder and white flood next. I even wanna try green mag but i heard it bloats and you lose your gains afterwards.

you will love the white flood green mag combo. green mag does not bloat you (search the boards here) and like with any creatine, you will keep the gains of lean muscle mass that you were able to add due to the greater strength

[MrCheeky]

I've taken quite the Variety of N.O. products, I started with N.O. Explod when i was in highschool, first workout with it I was throwing weight around i never thought i could at that age, everytime after that was a let down, i took it for 3 months for some reason, and never had the effect it did the first time i took it. After that I picked up a tub of nano vapor, and loved the results...massive pumps, good gains on strength, but it gave me the screaming sh*ts, so i moved to SuperPump 250, and it had the same effects in the weightroom, but none of the stomach effects, then my friend suggested N30, so i tried a bottle and loved it, but in order to get the intensity i wanted i had to drink an energy drink with it. So after that i decided to try this new thing called AlteredState, i didn't take it like it was recommended, at 80 bucks a bottle 8 tablets a day, the bottle went way too fast, and I feel that i got a better pump with N30. I finally got a tub of Black powder, and after three weeks of taking it, I have seen an incredible amount of strength increases, by bench has already went up 20 solid pounds as well as I can see a difference in my size. I also have taken Xyeince NOX and it worked decent, but i didn't get the effects that previous N.O. had gave me. So, my list from Best to worst would have to be:
Best- Black Powder
SuperPump 250, and N30
Nano Vapor
Xyeince NOX
Altered State
N.O. Explod


Thanks for the info. I'm curious if you've tried VPX NO Shotgun?

I started with No-Xplode to see what all the fuss was about. No real effect at all, I wouldn't use it again. Then I tried VPX NO Shotgun. Immediate results, weight intensity went up week after week. I highly recommend it. However, the taste is pretty awful in my opinion. Time to switch it up a bit.

I tried a sample of NO Vapor and it was pretty good. I'm trying to decide between NO Vapor, SuperPump and Black Powder (kinda pricey though).

[Samuels]

you will love the white flood green mag combo. green mag does not bloat you (search the boards here) and like with any creatine, you will keep the gains of lean muscle mass that you were able to add due to the greater strength

Could i stack the green mag with my superpump 250??

I'm thinking about buying a tub of Size on to stack with my superpump250 because i have it already but i'm unsure.

Then i'm gonna try the white flood and green mag stack.

Then i'm gonna try a full tub of no explode stacked with cellmass.

Then i can pick my favorite stack to use..


I'm honestly doing more reps and sets then i've ever done before. I'm taking superpump 250 and taking SCI-FIT kre-alkalyn 1500 taking 2 pills before and after workouts.

What are products like green mag,size on and cellmass gonna give me that the kre-alkalyn does'nt?

Is it even worth it to switch up my creatines?

[jandaman7]

MRI BLACK POWDER IS da best....hyper levels of energy and pump, that last very long

[jeremyleinen]

god, why is more reps and sets still considered better to so many people...

[GaPimp1]

i love no xplode

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Could i stack the green mag with my superpump 250??

I'm thinking about buying a tub of Size on to stack with my superpump250 because i have it already but i'm unsure.

Then i'm gonna try the white flood and green mag stack.

Then i'm gonna try a full tub of no explode stacked with cellmass.

Then i can pick my favorite stack to use..


I'm honestly doing more reps and sets then i've ever done before. I'm taking superpump 250 and taking SCI-FIT kre-alkalyn 1500 taking 2 pills before and after workouts.

What are products like green mag,size on and cellmass gonna give me that the kre-alkalyn does'nt?

Is it even worth it to switch up my creatines?
yes, green mag can be stacked with white flood or superpump, that is fine :)

[SCL_Mike]

If you're looking for a great pre/post workout stack check out Armaggedon pre workout/pump and Evolution intra/post workout. Armaggedon will give you a pump better than any other product and contains a glycerol powder that is 7500% stronger than glycerol monostearate. It pumps you and keeps you going throughout your workout, the pump lasts longer and you don't really have to cycle it. Evolution is loaded with BCAA's, 10 grams per serving in the exact ratio found in muscle tissue plus glycerol, creatine and other patented ingredients that have been shown to increase lean body mass. This stack is gaining in popularity every day because it works. Call Star Chem for free samples or just go to a local Vitamin Shoppe and get some.

[geeman]

What about the new Plasmajet or EST's Plasmatic?

G

[spademan]

I would have to say that Gaspari's Superpump is the best I've tried !
But honestly If you like being light-headed or bad tasting products (Blue raspberry YUK) try this :)

But is way better than No-xplod cause that doesn't work at all, used for like 1 week and had to keep upping dose and just didn't seem to work !

Superpump gives you crazy energy, the first time I tried it I wanted to fight someone. Suprisingly I didn't get the 'craps' like everyone else even though I take 1.5 scoops !

[tubeman]

I've used BSN No-Xplode and liked the results but the only draw back is the fact that I had to use 3 scoops to get results.

I've recently swithced to MRI Black Powder and 1 scoops is enough to get me going and feel results, I've just added MRI NO2 Black. I'm interested to see the results of using the two together.

[BigPumps32]

MuscleTech naNO Vapor is the s***

[BB2K]

What about the new Plasmajet or EST's Plasmatic?

G

A buddy of mine tried the Plasma Jet and LOVED it. His veins were popping out all over the place.

[BB2K]

My favorite thus far is Scivations VASOCHARGE (berry flavor) http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/vaso.htm

Love the "warm" feeling it gives and the pumps are awesome. Really helps me on a heavy leg day.

[geeman]

Cool, mines should be here by end of week, Im goin for it.

G

[BIGVALDEZ]

I've tried two.


1. GNC Brand Crap -


Well it was just that - crap. Returned it for a full refund. End of Story

2. Superpump 250 - Razzberry Ice Something

Taste - 8/10
Mix-a-bility - 8/10
Results - Jury is out

Of course the first think you notice is the stimulant. I'm a bit fragile when it comes to stims but my body dealt fine with this. No gastric issues other than a normal pre-workout crap. I have just recently (day 3) started to feel/notice a larger "pump". I'm also on the cut diet so my body is fully adjusting to the carb tease and load.

I'm happy with the product. I'm going to hold off to write a full review once my body has nutritionally stabilizied and I can fully explore the habits of Superpump. I've yet to increase the intake to more than the 1 scoop dose and I have consumed on off days (my off days are light cardio).

I'm sure in 2 weeks I'll have a better assesment. I'm new to the world of NO so I plan to check out all the ones mentioned at some point. My journal of gains will speak to their effective nature.

Like any supplement, each body responds differently. I have a history of being a SLOW responder - much like my metabolism :(

[toselo]

now im using nitrix, but i have used the no2 before and i did gain lots, without dieting, so now im dieting with nitrix and steroids so hpe its good results

[enthu5ia5t]

MuscleTech naNO Vapor is the s***

same here.