Best Overall Nitric Oxide (NO) Product?

[the joeSTAR]

I have tried BSN's NO xplode, and it worked well for about a month, however i began havinng to increase the dosage and before long i was up to 3 and a half scoops for my pre workout. i switched to Gaspari's superpump 250 and have gotten incredible energy from that. I resetly tried the Nano vapor by muscle tech and while the pump from the niacin was great, the energy absolutely sucked. i work in a nutrition store and i have had several other complaints about the Vapor, so i knkow its not just me.
i am now using NX Labs' Plasmavol which i find to be the greatest pump iv ever had. there is nothing in it to give you energy, so i either sip on a redline first, or take the superpump with it.
might sound a little intense, but im also using fizogen's m1 bol, because they have sent me samples. stacking teh plasma, m1 bol, and superpump is pretty crazy of me to do, but my workouts are amazing.
over any other pre workout i would try the plasmavol for at least week just to get that freaky experience of being super huge in the gym. most NO's just give you a great pump and make the muscles harder, but the Plasmavol makes your muscles freakin BIG in the gym. i think its great.
iv also heard the NO shotgun is good, but iv yet to try it.

[RobNyc]

Spent 6 months rolling NO-Explode, the best tasting by FAR. Been using WF over the past month, my workouts have been a bit more focused and intense.

The overall cost per serving is a big plus for me as well.

New to the boards, I really enjoy them so far.

I must agree here

[Sammy5150]

Give S.A.N. Fierce a go...
Personaly I like it better than NOXplode. Firstly it tells you how much of the active ingredients are in there. Secondly there is a 4gram hit of creatine, so you don't need an additional creatine suppliment.
Caffine level is good, I can take it at 7pm and still sleep that night :)
Great focus and can definately get more reps out with it.

[uhockey]

In reality, an NO product without caffeine is theoretically better than one with, as caffeine is vasoconstrictive.

[comet_steel]

I actually contacted BSN about the caffeine in NO-Xplode hindering the effects of the arginine. They said that one ingredient in it stopped the caffeine from constricting blood vessels. RC-NOS is what they call it and it is rutaecarpine and gynostemma Pentaphyllum. Now, I don't now about either of these things, or if the RC-NOS really stops the constriction. Thats just what BSN told me.
Don't shoot the messenger.

[alphaproject]

Can't seem to research those beyond finding sites about BSN.

Cell Mass is just an expensive creatine in my opinion. I didn't notice anything different using it.

No Explode was better I think, but I was also taking Beta Alanine so hard to say which one was working better for endurance.

[achtungbaby]

One of the guys who works at a supp shop I went to is suggesting this as my first 'stack': Leukic every morning and Dymatize Xpand for pre-workout (maybe post as well, as it says on the container). I haven't stacked yet so I am in research mode. I have taken NOXplode and would like to try something else. How does Xpand fare compared to other supps? He also suggested NO shotgun but money is tight. Thanks in advance guys.

[alphaproject]

I just bought some cheap body fortress NO from walmart.
10 bucks for a month.

Tabs look just like Nitrix.

It's AAKG only, so I might get a cheap L-Citrulline to go along with it and stack that with the B-Alanine and call it a night.

[Sldge]

The optimal time to use Leucine is postworkout. Although it will work when you get up, it wont work as well as it will when used post.

L-Alanine and Beta-Alanine should be used preworkout.

Ideally you would use a NO product with no caff. stacked with l-alanine and beta-alanine preworkout with around 20grams whey. Then postworkout you would have creatine, leucine and 4-oh-isoleucine with 30-50gms of whey. If you needed a stim or boost preworkout you would take it 30mins/45mins before you would take the rest of your preworkout supps. This way there are no contraindictions with the caff and NO, you buffer your body during the workout and signal not to breakdown amino acids during exercise, then you trigger the optimal anabolic enviroment postworkout.

[cw4391]

super pump 250 is sick, best pump ive ever got. althought there are downfalls. The energy if gives you runs out wayy to quickly compared to the NO explode. Also superpump gives you the ****s wicked bad hah

[achtungbaby]

thanks for the replies, guys....lots of great info.

[JACKAL53]

20 min before i work out i pop 4 nitrix pills and 2 NoXplode scoops and before i touch a weight i already got throbbing forearms. I have ordered some vapor just to c if it's up to all the hype but no and NItrix... Nough said.

[lapinsk]

I prefer not toe waste money on this product, after using about 3 grams of straight L-Arginine(Now's) before workouts and seeing the same results that I did with the Pinnacle NOx2 I was taking.

I have however noticed better recovery in general from this product...and pinnacles

I concur with Arginine, after reading this statement i decided to give it a try myself as i needed a cheaper solution to no xplode - which works and helps with intensity and vascularity, however i saw better results with straight arginine for muslce fullness and vascularity, also combined with kre alkalyn, lysine and bcaas

[gforce100]

Anyone used NX-Labs Vaso XP? If so, what are your thoughts on it?

I'm particularly interested in feedback from those who've used it (Vaso) as well as other products.

[brian029]

Ok. I've been TRYING... trying to put on weight since i was 16. I've been going to Golds off and on for the last 3 years and at that time i tried using APEX's MAX drinks and their volumizer pills. gained 16 pounds in 6 weeks. never happened again. and ive only fluctuated my weight since then. im about 130 right now. ive taken NaNOx9, Biogenetix NO-2, and i just started NO2 Black. The only one ive actually had results with is the NaNO, which is odd since everyone seems to knock it. It worked for pumps really well. I've also been taking those 1000 cal shakes, creatine, and 17HD. Im getting pissed off cuz im spending so much damn money with little results. I gained about 10 pounds pretty early during the start of my NOS use, but have since plateaued. I need some damn good advice on anything that may work better. Thanx.

[hvillpimp524]

Hmm..well I've only experimented with one No2 product, and that is Fitness Labs Creatine Pump (which is creatine + No2 transport). It's worked great for me, made my arms pump out huge during and after a workout. It was crazy =]

[suspek24]

http://www.noshotgun.com/tour.html

If you want to see real results from real people that take real supplements from a quality company check out NO Shotgun by VPX. Gives me real sick pumps and my strength just keeps increasing. The technology is overwhelming the competition. It's by far the best pre-workout NO supp out. I'm about to train legs and am going to mix my Shotgun with some red gatorade. Can't wait to feel and see the pump. I've been using for 2 months now and I keep seeing results.

[trueathlete]

VASO PUMP by muscle fortress.. You will get killer pumps..

[FoRuMbOaRdS360]

http://www.noshotgun.com/tour.html

If you want to see real results from real people that take real supplements from a quality company check out NO Shotgun by VPX. Gives me real sick pumps and my strength just keeps increasing. The technology is overwhelming the competition. It's by far the best pre-workout NO supp out. I'm about to train legs and am going to mix my Shotgun with some red gatorade. Can't wait to feel and see the pump. I've been using for 2 months now and I keep seeing results.

Ive used vpx before and yes the energy and focus was deffinitly there. But no way will i ever put that crap in my mouth again. HORRIBLE taste. So bad i cant get it down w/o gagging a few times.

Superpump250 was pretty freaking intense also. But as others said. The energy seems to run out pretty quick. Good for a few amazing sets though.

NaNOx was no good. It had semi-ok results but for the money you might as well gag a few times.

[suspek24]

In reality, an NO product without caffeine is theoretically better than one with, as caffeine is vasoconstrictive.

You being a doctor seems kind of mysterious. What's your real name and where do you practice? Are you aware that caffeine is the most studied and one of the most effective ergogenic aids on the planet? Allow me to school you. Let me post a $5000 bet that you give a group of human subjects the Arginine EE di HCl product like the one you are referring to that is supposed increase NO2 and i simply give the same group (on another day) or an entirely new group on the same day 200 mgs of caffeine.
The caffeine group will crush AEE group in every aspect of lifting etc. Are you not even aware Doktor NOwere, that NO2 was proven to be totally inefficacious in three Baylor University studies. Are you aware that a girl curled 26 pounds 301 times at the Arnold Classic on Shotgun that contains caffeine? I personally have increased my strength on bench, squats, and deadlifts from using NO-Shotgun by VPX. I've seen people increase their amount of reps from what that they previously were able to perform from taking this product alone. It works, and there's no doubting it.

Info about caffeine:
"To a nerve cell, caffeine looks like adenosine. Caffeine therefore binds to the adenosine receptor. However, it doesn't slow down the cell's activity like adenosine would. So the cell cannot "see" adenosine anymore because caffeine is taking up all the receptors adenosine binds to. So instead of slowing down because of the adenosine level, the cells speed up. You can see that caffeine also causes the brain's blood vessels to constrict, because it blocks adenosine's ability to open them up. This effect is why some headache medicines like Anacin contain caffeine -- if you have a vascular headache, the caffeine will close down the blood vessels and relieve it."

"So now you have increased neuron firing in the brain. The pituitary gland sees all of the activity and thinks some sort of emergency must be occurring, so it releases hormones that tell the adrenal glands to produce adrenaline (epinephrine). Adrenaline is the "fight or flight" hormone, and it has a number of effects on your body:"

"Your pupils dilate.
Your breathing tubes open up (this is why people suffering from severe asthma attacks are sometimes injected with epinephrine).
Your heart beats faster.
Blood vessels on the surface constrict to slow blood flow from cuts and also to increase blood flow to muscles. Blood pressure rises.
Blood flow to the stomach slows.
The liver releases sugar into the bloodstream for extra energy.
Muscles tighten up, ready for action."
(http://home.howstuffworks.com/caffeine3.htm)

[suspek24]

Ive used vpx before and yes the energy and focus was deffinitly there. But no way will i ever put that crap in my mouth again. HORRIBLE taste. So bad i cant get it down w/o gagging a few times.

Superpump250 was pretty freaking intense also. But as others said. The energy seems to run out pretty quick. Good for a few amazing sets though.

NaNOx was no good. It had semi-ok results but for the money you might as well gag a few times.

Try taking shotgun with Red Gatorade or Powerade being that I'm a noles fan :-P, I really don't even notice I'm drinking Shotgun.

[kory.plummer]

Actually mixing creatine into a sports drink is one of the best ways to take it after a workout.

[WorkoutMixes]

No Xplode.

[uhockey]

You being a doctor seems kind of mysterious. What's your real name and where do you practice? Are you aware that caffeine is the most studied and one of the most effective ergogenic aids on the planet? Allow me to school you. Let me post a $5000 bet that you give a group of human subjects the Arginine EE di HCl product like the one you are referring to that is supposed increase NO2 and i simply give the same group (on another day) or an entirely new group on the same day 200 mgs of caffeine.
The caffeine group will crush AEE group in every aspect of lifting etc. Are you not even aware Doktor NOwere, that NO2 was proven to be totally inefficacious in three Baylor University studies. Are you aware that a girl curled 26 pounds 301 times at the Arnold Classic on Shotgun that contains caffeine? I personally have increased my strength on bench, squats, and deadlifts from using NO-Shotgun by VPX. I've seen people increase their amount of reps from what that they previously were able to perform from taking this product alone. It works, and there's no doubting it.

Info about caffeine:
"To a nerve cell, caffeine looks like adenosine. Caffeine therefore binds to the adenosine receptor. However, it doesn't slow down the cell's activity like adenosine would. So the cell cannot "see" adenosine anymore because caffeine is taking up all the receptors adenosine binds to. So instead of slowing down because of the adenosine level, the cells speed up. You can see that caffeine also causes the brain's blood vessels to constrict, because it blocks adenosine's ability to open them up. This effect is why some headache medicines like Anacin contain caffeine -- if you have a vascular headache, the caffeine will close down the blood vessels and relieve it."

"So now you have increased neuron firing in the brain. The pituitary gland sees all of the activity and thinks some sort of emergency must be occurring, so it releases hormones that tell the adrenal glands to produce adrenaline (epinephrine). Adrenaline is the "fight or flight" hormone, and it has a number of effects on your body:"

"Your pupils dilate.
Your breathing tubes open up (this is why people suffering from severe asthma attacks are sometimes injected with epinephrine).
Your heart beats faster.
Blood vessels on the surface constrict to slow blood flow from cuts and also to increase blood flow to muscles. Blood pressure rises.
Blood flow to the stomach slows.
The liver releases sugar into the bloodstream for extra energy.
Muscles tighten up, ready for action."
(http://home.howstuffworks.com/caffeine3.htm)

Mysterious? lol. I've been frequenting this forum throughout my training and no less than 30 members have met me in person. Hell, 2 company owners were invited to my graduation. I've no reason to lie, and I have nothing to prove to you, shill. My past and current facts are out there, a simple search should suffice.

Additionally, are you seriously retarded? Where on earth did I say I was anti-caffeine, and where did I say it wasn't a great ergogenic? Aside from increased vascularity and potential for increased nutrient delivery, NO products are vastly overrated. With that said, however, NO products and Caffeine products are best seperated. I have no problem with NO-Shotgun...I have a problem with you and your attitude. 19 year old know it all...seems kinda mysterious to me...can we see your VPX contract?

[Frenchtickler]

Free White FLOOD samples (while supplies last):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2553921

Thanks for the sample but I always think that you need more than a sample to be able to judge a product so I've ordered a pot of it(White Flood)+ a no -shotgun cause I heard good feeds about both products so soon I'll do a post about both products.Plus I also bought Nitrix from bsn,even if I,m tired of No-xplode,anyways will report about all.

[ENG]

I recently bought a tub of No Xplode, and my expectations were high due to it's reputation. I Have used it twice now, and I've had 2 brilliant workouts, higher intensity, lifted heavier, energised and fatigue seems to be a far cry. People either seem to love it or hate it - I have nothing else to compare it to but I will probably try Animal Pump soon and see what that does for me.

[adm793]

Tried NO-Shotgun for about a month. Taste actually grew on me, good smooth energy however energy tapered off quickly after about an hour. Absolutely no pumps. Tried for 3 and 1/2 weeks, 3 times a week. Brought it back to Vitamin Shoppe for a full store credit.

Picked up Animal Pumps based on reviews and a free sample that I tried in the past. Been using it for the last 2 weeks. The energy is a little more focused than NO Shotgun, however a little less intense. The Pumps are awesome and have gotten more intense each workout. The weirdest thing though is that I actually seem to have more energy in the evenings for cardio on the days I take Animal Pump vs. off days. I only take it on workout days. I also prefer the fact they are pill form, if I want to workout at night I can remove the energy pill and not worry about getting to sleep on time. Just my two cents.

[tunitaka50]

I think vpx has an excellent product in No shotgun... Just finished off my tub and i can tell you it is the best pre-workout supplement I have ever taken... I know that it taste like ****, but for me it gives me results and the redline makes u sweat....

[RobNyc]

Well.. CellMass has to be magic

wednesday when i worked out i took it right after workin out and i wasnt tired or sore as i would be.
this morning (FridaY) when i woke up i was sore still (as well as thursday) since i had a good workout but havent had good food intake =X

so i took cellmass this morning and immediately the soreness left .. :)

i might have to just buy it im gonna workout now a bit because i feel good but not that much

[njmuscle66]

You being a doctor seems kind of mysterious. What's your real name and where do you practice? Are you aware that caffeine is the most studied and one of the most effective ergogenic aids on the planet? Allow me to school you. ]

:) Got such a kick out of reading this I just had to quote it. School Mike? Having meet the good doctor on several occasions and been privy to the tremendous intellectual knowledge that he exhibits on numerous topis you might wish to focus more attention on being in school, before you worry about "schooling" anyone, especially Mike

[billfinkbiner]

Tried NO-Shotgun for about a month. Taste actually grew on me, good smooth energy however energy tapered off quickly after about an hour. Absolutely no pumps. Tried for 3 and 1/2 weeks, 3 times a week. Brought it back to Vitamin Shoppe for a full store credit.

Picked up Animal Pumps based on reviews and a free sample that I tried in the past. Been using it for the last 2 weeks. The energy is a little more focused than NO Shotgun, however a little less intense. The Pumps are awesome and have gotten more intense each workout. The weirdest thing though is that I actually seem to have more energy in the evenings for cardio on the days I take Animal Pump vs. off days. I only take it on workout days. I also prefer the fact they are pill form, if I want to workout at night I can remove the energy pill and not worry about getting to sleep on time. Just my two cents.


I like VasoXplode. Similar ingredients to No Shotgun, but an amazingly better taste; almost like CountryTime lemonade. Amazing focus. And way more affordable.

[KINGJAMES23]

this thead is huge, so far I've tried No Xplode and White Flood and I liked them both.

What would any of you recommend I try next ? Feel free to name a few

[FaceThePain]

Out of the one's I'ver used.

Animal Pump.

I plan on trying VasoXplode next.

[scoobydew18]

i have to go with BSN NO xplode...... this stuff is freakish... and it doesn't taste half bad!

[six7one]

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and was just wondering if anyone has tried this preworkout mix from Nutricor Labs called Methyl EFX....I have been on NO explode for awhile now and was wanting to try something else...Any suggestions???Thanks...

[billfinkbiner]

this thead is huge, so far I've tried No Xplode and White Flood and I liked them both.

What would any of you recommend I try next ? Feel free to name a few

VaspXplode/Primal N2o

[weezyfbaby]

Mysterious? lol. I've been frequenting this forum throughout my training and no less than 30 members have met me in person. Hell, 2 company owners were invited to my graduation. I've no reason to lie, and I have nothing to prove to you, shill. My past and current facts are out there, a simple search should suffice.

Additionally, are you seriously retarded? Where on earth did I say I was anti-caffeine, and where did I say it wasn't a great ergogenic? Aside from increased vascularity and potential for increased nutrient delivery, NO products are vastly overrated. With that said, however, NO products and Caffeine products are best seperated. I have no problem with NO-Shotgun...I have a problem with you and your attitude. 19 year old know it all...seems kinda mysterious to me...can we see your VPX contract?

i was wondering what your opinion is the best Nitric Oxide product?because i just got some money and was wondering what to get. Im think NO explode, NO shotgun or superpump 250. please man what are you leaning toward???

[uhockey]

i was wondering what your opinion is the best Nitric Oxide product?because i just got some money and was wondering what to get. Im think NO explode, NO shotgun or superpump 250. please man what are you leaning toward???

I can't fairly answer that question as I work for, and had a direct hand in the design of Designer Supplements NO-Limits. Obviously, to have assisted in its formulation and now its promotion, I believe in NO-Limits a great deal.

[Leeradee]

NO-Xplode has worked fairly well for me. I also stacked it with Nitrix (dunno if this is the best idea, but I did anyway) and I got amazing pumps. I've tried most of the NO-Xplode flavors and I'd have to say that grape then lemon lime were the best hands down. The blue raspberry and fruit punch were WAY too sweet for me.

[weezyfbaby]

NO-Xplode has worked fairly well for me. I also stacked it with Nitrix (dunno if this is the best idea, but I did anyway) and I got amazing pumps. I've tried most of the NO-Xplode flavors and I'd have to say that grape then lemon lime were the best hands down. The blue raspberry and fruit punch were WAY too sweet for me.

thanks man NO explode here i come, im getting blue rasberry

[weezyfbaby]

I can't fairly answer that question as I work for, and had a direct hand in the design of Designer Supplements NO-Limits. Obviously, to have assisted in its formulation and now its promotion, I believe in NO-Limits a great deal.

thanks anyways.

[Stefanogym]

it is my second bottle of NO Shotgun VPX since i tried the first time in september..
this stuff is amazing, and i do not understand how people so frequently complain about its tase..i love it , i truly love it..i can t wait it is time to workout to drink it with that peer taste..i love it
and it is amazing...focus focus focus..strength and pumps
and..i am an advanced body builder who workout since 1988., and also a great personal trainer.
However maybe it is better to discontinue it because u can get used to the stuff..to the stimulants in it.
But it works great

i also tried superpump250 but it is a bit less powerful then shotgun
it is good to do some **** after the workout though, thanks to the magnesium

[mdel 1987]

not saying i kno anymore than any of you out there but i have a good amount of experience with the products. my major in college is adult fitness, i am an employee at GNC and also have been lifting for about 4 years and used many of the products that are currently out. Mainly the ones avilable at GNC because of the employee discounts and samples from reps.

NO-explode is def my favorite pre-workout. the reason so many people like it is because it is loaded with caffein. This is the obvious reason for the boost of energy. I was told by a rep that the amount of caffein is somewhere around 225mg per scoop. not sure if this is exactly right but i would believe it. I have also used NO-shotgun, horsepower, NOX-CG, trac, trac xtreme-NO, superpump 250. I also have about 2 weeks worth of Nitroboloic samples so i am going to try those.

No-shotgun...taste is horrible, like ground up thermogenic, (contains the redline formula) cant say much about the pumps, energy was decent. Not much for gains.

Horsepower...dont even bother

NOX-CG...ok. great glutamine mix never sore. but not much energy or pumps. glutamine conter-acted arginine. way too expensive.

Trac xtreme-no...one of the better ones. seems spotty though. some days had a great workouts other just not so pumped up. also gels slightly when mixed.

Superpump 250...would have been my favorite if it didnt give me terrible stomach aches and have to go to the bathroom like 20 seconds after taking it. but could take 1.5 scoops and get same results i got with 3 scoops no-explode.

Now for the actuall NO products the stricktly vaso/hemo dialators. Ones i have used. NItrix, nanoX9, vaso, M1 bol (more than just a vasodialator but main purpose), No2 (original not black).

Nitrix and NO2 were my least favorite. Just not very effective for the high prices. In general not happy with the new BSN line. old stuff was much better. But dont get me wrong NO-explodes is still the best.

M1 and NanoX9 were both good but not worth the money.

Vaso worked the best plus was the cheapest. Have been very happy with the NXcare/NXlabs products.

The combination of both a pre-workout and strickly no product will give you the best pumps and muscle gains possible and obviously you also need your creatine/protein post-workout. also try to avoid glutamine before taking and NO product so do not do a protein shake before workout. glutamine counter-acts the arginine.

hopefully some of you will find this helpful...if you ever have any questions email me at mdelibertis@ut.edu or im del2187.

[KevinSorbo]

Well.. CellMass has to be magic

wednesday when i worked out i took it right after workin out and i wasnt tired or sore as i would be.
this morning (FridaY) when i woke up i was sore still (as well as thursday) since i had a good workout but havent had good food intake =X

so i took cellmass this morning and immediately the soreness left .. :)

i might have to just buy it im gonna workout now a bit because i feel good but not that much

What are you talking about? Cellmass is a creatine, not an NO product. And I dont know how it could possibly relieve next-day soreness within seconds. Its a creatine, not a magic pill. (not hating on cellmass, i liked it.)

[KevinSorbo]

not saying i kno anymore than any of you out there but i have a good amount of experience with the products. my major in college is adult fitness, i am an employee at GNC and also have been lifting for about 4 years and used many of the products that are currently out. Mainly the ones avilable at GNC because of the employee discounts and samples from reps.

NO-explode is def my favorite pre-workout. the reason so many people like it is because it is loaded with caffein. This is the obvious reason for the boost of energy. I was told by a rep that the amount of caffein is somewhere around 225mg per scoop. not sure if this is exactly right but i would believe it. I have also used NO-shotgun, horsepower, NOX-CG, trac, trac xtreme-NO, superpump 250. I also have about 2 weeks worth of Nitroboloic samples so i am going to try those.

No-shotgun...taste is horrible, like ground up thermogenic, (contains the redline formula) cant say much about the pumps, energy was decent. Not much for gains.

Horsepower...dont even bother

NOX-CG...ok. great glutamine mix never sore. but not much energy or pumps. glutamine conter-acted arginine. way too expensive.

Trac xtreme-no...one of the better ones. seems spotty though. some days had a great workouts other just not so pumped up. also gels slightly when mixed.

Superpump 250...would have been my favorite if it didnt give me terrible stomach aches and have to go to the bathroom like 20 seconds after taking it. but could take 1.5 scoops and get same results i got with 3 scoops no-explode.

Now for the actuall NO products the stricktly vaso/hemo dialators. Ones i have used. NItrix, nanoX9, vaso, M1 bol (more than just a vasodialator but main purpose), No2 (original not black).

Nitrix and NO2 were my least favorite. Just not very effective for the high prices. In general not happy with the new BSN line. old stuff was much better. But dont get me wrong NO-explodes is still the best.

M1 and NanoX9 were both good but not worth the money.

Vaso worked the best plus was the cheapest. Have been very happy with the NXcare/NXlabs products.

The combination of both a pre-workout and strickly no product will give you the best pumps and muscle gains possible and obviously you also need your creatine/protein post-workout. also try to avoid glutamine before taking and NO product so do not do a protein shake before workout. glutamine counter-acts the arginine.

hopefully some of you will find this helpful...if you ever have any questions email me at mdelibertis@ut.edu or im del2187.

thanks for the reviews- good stuff, ive had NO-Xplode but maybe Ill try Vaso next.

[mdel 1987]

thanks for the reviews- good stuff, ive had NO-Xplode but maybe Ill try Vaso next.

thing is you really want to take them together. cuz no-explode is a pre-workout where the vaso is just a vasodiolator with a little creatine and arginase inhibitors. so if you can afford it try taking both.

No-explode is just once aday before the work out where almost all vasodiolators are twice a day one before the workout and the other 30 mins before a meal in.

[projectpat06]

theres so much **** goin on here...i just think the shotgun contains everything u need in one compact drink, u get all of the nutrients combined in one drink and it works....i love it

[RobNyc]

I'm not going to sit here and say NO-Xplode is the best. Anymore just because too much Caffeine is not good imo. But NO-Xplode is the #1 product, and is what made BSN so famous I heard.

I haven't tried other products usually because of their taste, price, and performance. But a company that is worthy of mentioning and its part of bb is Controlled Labs. They offer samples so you can try their product and make sure its good for you before you buy it.

[MAHER025]

Is There Any Side Effects In Taking No-xplode.....does Ure Heart Rate Bounce Off The Wall And Do You Get Bloated...i Don't Want To Put On Fat Wght And I Don't Want To Feal Bloated.....

I Am Planning On Taking No-xplode And Optimum Nut. Whey Protein Together....

Sean

[S7R31F]

I have just started taking NO Xplode and yesterday took 2 scoops on an empty stomach and didnt feel that great in the gym, not flat at all but not anything special. Steel edge worked alot better, I wil keep playing around with the NO Xplode but I will def be getting something different next time around.

[pocketplayer]

Originally Posted by alphaproject
Someone said some dude was avoiding carbs for 2 weeks. How can you avoid ALL carbs. Impossible I say.


You've clearly not seen people cutting for a contest......going under 35 carbs a day is possible.....albeit extremely unplesant. Imagine chicken breast, tuna, and red meat, plus perhaps some added fat, and 5 cups green veggies.

Green veggies ARE carbs! Complex carbohydrates are starches found in beans, nuts, vegetables and whole grains. Your body prefers the carbohydrates in vegetables rather than grains because it slows the conversion to simple sugars like glucose and decreases your insulin level. On the other hand grain carbohydrates will increase your insulin levels and interfere with your ability to burn fat thus the reason to cut starchy carbs before a contest to get ripped.

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Age: 27
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Doood...you gots 19,645 posts! Aycarumba x100! That in itself is insanely impressive or incredibly sad.

NO Limits is available for $20 (don't know how much shipping is) if you Google No Limits and hit "discount______anabolics . com"

[Warneckutz]

Is There Any Side Effects In Taking No-xplode.....does Ure Heart Rate Bounce Off The Wall And Do You Get Bloated...i Don't Want To Put On Fat Wght And I Don't Want To Feal Bloated.....

I Am Planning On Taking No-xplode And Optimum Nut. Whey Protein Together....

Sean

When I tried NO-Xplode I just felt a rush. I never had the jitters or anything. I think it's a worthwhile product where you actually "feel" it. I was also using ON's Whey as my protein source. I never experienced any bloating or adverse side effects.

[trollthug]

is cell tech any good?

[RobNyc]

Well today I tried the 3rd sample I got of WhiteFlood, PurpleWrath and GreenMag.. it doesn't seem to be working anymore unlike the first time it did.

But NO-XPlode + CellMass + Truemass works for me..

I felt and had longer bigger pumps with NO-Xplode + CellMass (last week)

Don't know let's see how the rest of the month goes like and waiting for my cellmass to be delivered

I workout and just take preworkout and then the afterworkout.. I dont have time to take the Protein until I get home (1hour later) but I try to take protein before i drink the preworkout..

[uansari1]

is cell tech any good?

Celltech is a post workout creatine product more than an NO booster. I've tried Vyotech's Nitrobolic Extreme and Muscletech's NanoVapor. I used to love the N.E., but after trying NanoVapor, I'm a convert. Btw, both NE and NV are loaded with creatine as well.

[suspek24]

is cell tech any good?

I think they have too much sugar. I'm all for sugar after workouts with Gatorade, but 75 g, that's a lot.

[psych]

I think they have too much sugar. I'm all for sugar after workouts with Gatorade, but 75 g, that's a lot.

thats for people who weight more than 200lbs look at the label it even gives you 10g of creatine
normally 5g postworkout is enough and some carbs (dextrose,palatinose, wms etc) and you want that for recovery .. so its not just some "sugar"

[trobblee]

Is There Any Side Effects In Taking No-xplode.....does Ure Heart Rate Bounce Off The Wall And Do You Get Bloated...i Don't Want To Put On Fat Wght And I Don't Want To Feal Bloated.....

I Am Planning On Taking No-xplode And Optimum Nut. Whey Protein Together....

Sean

I love no-xplode. At first I didn't feel much different but after a few days of getting it into my system and getting used to the taste, I noticed HUGE differanences in my workouts. It didn't make me jittery or off the walls like some of the others I've tried nor did it make me bloated. It simply made me feel like I could lift a lot more weight, many more times. I did get burnt out on it after a while though. I think I used it too often and built up an immunity to it. I definitely recommend cycling on and off of it if you decide to stick with it. I've also been using Natures Best Perfect Isopure Zero Carb Protein. I like it much better than any other protein I've tried. It's light, packed with protein and doesn't ever give me that bloated feeling.

[RobNyc]

Maybe we should just cycle off 1 month this, next month that..
BSN is the best tasting company I ever tried but its expensive.
And I've noticed the better it taste the better it is

[Rikkar]

I've been hearing some good things about NO Shotgun, what do you guys think?

[fkjr2]

NO Shotgun was ok - I liked White Flood a lot better :)

My veins are like a road map to my gym - seriously! They pop like crazy.

My wife loves em :)

[zkid002]

I've been hearing some good things about NO Shotgun, what do you guys think?

Same here, it is a good product, go for it.

[zackt1287]

I have taken MuscleTech's cellmass, gaspari's superpump250, fierce n.o., and a few others, and I have decided to stick with BSN's N.O. Xplode. At first i didnt think i was getting a whole lot from it, but after increasing my daily intake, 4 scoops daily (twice a day), i could felt the increased energy and could push out a few extra repetitions. i got off xplode for about 6 weeks, and i shrunk a little bit in my arms and chest. Once i ot back on, about two weeks ago, i could feel the pumps and energy again. I recommend stacking with AKG, and citrulline malate, i prefer NxLabs Anavol, and that is what im tkaing now. BSN N.O. Xplode is a good product.

[Rikkar]

Same here, it is a good product, go for it.

I'm going to go ahead and order some ; I'll post soon and give my two cents about it....

[uhockey]

Originally Posted by alphaproject
Someone said some dude was avoiding carbs for 2 weeks. How can you avoid ALL carbs. Impossible I say.



Green veggies ARE carbs! Complex carbohydrates are starches found in beans, nuts, vegetables and whole grains. Your body prefers the carbohydrates in vegetables rather than grains because it slows the conversion to simple sugars like glucose and decreases your insulin level. On the other hand grain carbohydrates will increase your insulin levels and interfere with your ability to burn fat thus the reason to cut starchy carbs before a contest to get ripped.

uhockey M.D.
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Ohio
Age: 27
Posts: 19,645

Doood...you gots 19,645 posts! Aycarumba x100! That in itself is insanely impressive or incredibly sad.

NO Limits is available for $20 (don't know how much shipping is) if you Google No Limits and hit "discount______anabolics . com"

No ****? Thanks for the update on veggies being carbs!! I said 5 cups of green veggies......that is ~25-30g of carbs.

[zkid002]

I'm going to go ahead and order some ; I'll post soon and give my two cents about it....

Nice, tell me how you like it, post like a review.

[RobNyc]

BSN NO-Xplode no more than 3 scoops !!!

I'm scared of trying any other because of the taste and if it will work at all.

WhiteFlood I tried thanks to their free samples

[Warneckutz]

BSN NO-Xplode no more than 3 scoops !!!

I'm scared of trying any other because of the taste and if it will work at all.

WhiteFlood I tried thanks to their free samples

I was up to 3 scoops of NO-Xplode pre-workout and 1 scoop mid-workout (mixed with a scoop of Cell-Mass) for awhile. It definitely helped out on those long work days.

[RobNyc]

I was up to 3 scoops of NO-Xplode pre-workout and 1 scoop mid-workout (mixed with a scoop of Cell-Mass) for awhile. It definitely helped out on those long work days.

I'm going to use 3 scoops tomorrow :)
I just received my cellmass too since I had the trial pack before.
The **** is why is this thing halfway ? So I talked with BB and they sending me a new 1 + return label for the old one.

I drink water during workout i guess. CellMass doesn't taste as good as No-Xplode and TrueMass does but BSN taste better than any other company IMO. Most company lack taste and thats a big turn off

[ElasticDemise]

Im using NaNOX9 from Muscle Tech and it works great! From start to finish you feel pumped. I tried VasoFlow by S.A.N. and it did nothing + you had to take either 6 or 9? caps. for a serving... Compaired to just 3 of NaNOX9. Also it gets into your system almost instantly you can feel it. I recomend this product it works great for me.

[lancemw15]

has anybody tried trac extreme NO

[Warneckutz]

I'm going to use 3 scoops tomorrow :)
I just received my cellmass too since I had the trial pack before.
The **** is why is this thing halfway ? So I talked with BB and they sending me a new 1 + return label for the old one.

I drink water during workout i guess. CellMass doesn't taste as good as No-Xplode and TrueMass does but BSN taste better than any other company IMO. Most company lack taste and thats a big turn off

When I was using NO-Xplode (Lemonade) and CellMass (Berry), I'd mix them together and that just tasted awesome to me.

[scoobydew18]

no-xplode is definately what it's about..... i stack nitrix/no-xplode/cellmass ....i love it!! its definately worth a shot. the combo is a little pricey but well worth it

[zackt1287]

has anybody tried trac extreme NO

trac is a good product, but i quit using becuase i couldnt stand thew taste (orange flavor) and it gave me frequent ****s.... i had some noticable gains in my bench, about 20 lbs, or 3-4 reps, and i gained about 6 lbs, in 2 months. i would recommend it, although i think n.o. xplode and gaspari's superpump250 would be better choices.

[ja2143]

When I was using NO-Xplode (Lemonade) and CellMass (Berry), I'd mix them together and that just tasted awesome to me.

You're right, BSN tastes the best, but to be honest who cares bout taste, it's better if you have to suffer to reach your goals. Don't like muscletech products at all. they cost way too much. I think a company that overcharges is just a bit too shady. BSN aren't as pricey but their servings could be a bit more generous. Here's to ON's 100% whey, the best whey at such a cheap price. AND the most significant product IMO

[Warneckutz]

You're right, BSN tastes the best, but to be honest who cares bout taste, it's better if you have to suffer to reach your goals. Don't like muscletech products at all. they cost way too much. I think a company that overcharges is just a bit too shady. BSN aren't as pricey but their servings could be a bit more generous. Here's to ON's 100% whey, the best whey at such a cheap price. AND the most significant product IMO

I agree about the taste, it's not as important as the result, but the Lemonade/Berry mix did taste pretty good! ;)
I will say that I was NOT too impressed with their nano VAPOR, but I do like their naNO X9. I actually had a better response from that than MRI's NO2. ON Whey is definitely a great protein, I've been using their stuff for over 4 years now. I have to admit that I usually mix a scoop of ON whey with another brand (Dymatize Elite, CytoSport MuscleMilk, BSN Syntha-6, etc...). Almost the same flavor and it makes the other protein last longer! ;)

[uhockey]

And pictures prove the results! These pics are taken in the middle of a workout, when Chuck was completely depleted. No carbs for over 2 weeks when this was taken, just NO Limits.


NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/product_writeups/nolimits.pdf

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

The Logs:

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234471
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2056601
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2146351
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2047931
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2089911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2054911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2117311

I'd say the answer is pretty clear. :)

[Viperspit]

I don't classify NO type products as a must have. They are fun to use for sure prior to a workout, however personally I do not respond very well to NO's in general. I have to double dose at minimum virtually every NO I've tried. I think the easiest answer for this topic would be the one that taste's fine to you and doesn't have you running to the crapper in 5 minutes after ingestion.

[juliosardellaa]

Well, this is my first post on this forum, but i got to say that BSN NO Xplode is a very fine stuff.

I've toke 3 of them last year, great strenght and pumps. For an example, i can put more 7-15Kg (14-30 pounds) on the bench if i'm under the effect of this product.

It's a shame that's i have to spend like US$ 150,00 for each bottle of no xplode in my country (brazil), creatine is forbidden here, so a "normal" import get stoped by customs almost everytime.

But is a great product, for who can afford it, i recommend.


Sorry for my bad english.

[pu12en12g]

NO Shotgun was ok - I liked White Flood a lot better :)

My veins are like a road map to my gym - seriously! They pop like crazy.

My wife loves em :)

Nice !!! :cool:

[RobNyc]

I've changed my workout to morning now. It's better because its early in the morning, I can drink my preworkout, postworkout and protein aftewards. But I have to wake up at 4am .. normally I would wake up at 5:30 to get ready for work and workout at the end of the day at 4pm.

I leave my house at 4:48, first train comes at 4:58 then I get to my first destination at 5:20's next train leaves at 5:38 gets to the destination 5:50, next train at 6:03 and i get to my last destination at 6:14 or so I get work at 6:20-23. so I need to plan how to take my preworkout at around 6am .. which i cant think of any way to do it since I'm on the go at that moment .

I'm going to call BSN and see for how long can the NO-XPlode be with the water. I figure from 4:45 to 6:00 is a long wait . Maybe I can try having it in a small pot and go to the bathroom as I wait for my last train and then take it. What you guys think .

Friday I drank my no-xplode 3 scoops at 6:30am left to the gym at 6:55(1 floor down from work), gave me the ****s (First time ever) had to do it fast.
Lots of farts through the day, workout was weird at first but then it got good . I did go to the bathroom that day a lot compare to usual. I drank about 35oz of water through my workout a lil more prob.

Im gonna use 2 1/2 scoops next time. BSN's phone line is great. Some of them recommend you playing with your timing. Take it 25, 30, 45 mins before workout .

[zkid002]

Anyone Use NO2 Hemodilator??..If so, what are your opinions on it, my bro has tons of it, and doesnt even use it!..

[skier26otc]

I'd like to add Super Pump 250 back into the thread. I work out in the mornings also and what a way to start the day.. I get super pumps, added strenght- that lasts beyond my workout..been looking at other products to try, but I'm staying with this...2-3 scoops of super pump add a protein shake and off I go

[Chris440]

I'm 10 days deep in nitrix, so far so good, alot of cardio vascular improvement. The first couple days there wasn't much, but i def feel better blood flow, even when im not lifting. Strength is also increased, slowly but very solid progress. The only thing is it's so expensive and you have to take it 3 tabs, 3 times a day on an empty stomch, wich is hard for people who work and eat 5-6 meals a day but for now im eating 4 meals, and just take them at work. If anyone asks ill explain it to them and they probably wont understand anyway.

But im interested to know if neone has tried several other products, but then finnaly just chose l-arganine plain. I think im going to start that next.

[zkid002]

Anyone Use NO2 Hemodilator??..If so, what are your opinions on it, my bro has tons of it, and doesnt even use it!..

Its sold out on the site...So somebody must know bout it...(must be good)..

[jkeithc82]

You being a doctor seems kind of mysterious. What's your real name and where do you practice? Are you aware that caffeine is the most studied and one of the most effective ergogenic aids on the planet? Allow me to school you. Let me post a $5000 bet that you give a group of human subjects the Arginine EE di HCl product like the one you are referring to that is supposed increase NO2 and i simply give the same group (on another day) or an entirely new group on the same day 200 mgs of caffeine.
The caffeine group will crush AEE group in every aspect of lifting etc. Are you not even aware Doktor NOwere, that NO2 was proven to be totally inefficacious in three Baylor University studies. Are you aware that a girl curled 26 pounds 301 times at the Arnold Classic on Shotgun that contains caffeine? I personally have increased my strength on bench, squats, and deadlifts from using NO-Shotgun by VPX. I've seen people increase their amount of reps from what that they previously were able to perform from taking this product alone. It works, and there's no doubting it.

Info about caffeine:
"To a nerve cell, caffeine looks like adenosine. Caffeine therefore binds to the adenosine receptor. However, it doesn't slow down the cell's activity like adenosine would. So the cell cannot "see" adenosine anymore because caffeine is taking up all the receptors adenosine binds to. So instead of slowing down because of the adenosine level, the cells speed up. You can see that caffeine also causes the brain's blood vessels to constrict, because it blocks adenosine's ability to open them up. This effect is why some headache medicines like Anacin contain caffeine -- if you have a vascular headache, the caffeine will close down the blood vessels and relieve it."

"So now you have increased neuron firing in the brain. The pituitary gland sees all of the activity and thinks some sort of emergency must be occurring, so it releases hormones that tell the adrenal glands to produce adrenaline (epinephrine). Adrenaline is the "fight or flight" hormone, and it has a number of effects on your body:"

"Your pupils dilate.
Your breathing tubes open up (this is why people suffering from severe asthma attacks are sometimes injected with epinephrine).
Your heart beats faster.
Blood vessels on the surface constrict to slow blood flow from cuts and also to increase blood flow to muscles. Blood pressure rises.
Blood flow to the stomach slows.
The liver releases sugar into the bloodstream for extra energy.
Muscles tighten up, ready for action."
(http://home.howstuffworks.com/caffeine3.htm)

You are quite possibly the most retarded member of this board.

No seriously, you are. :rolleyes:

[_Mazza_]

haha I bet he's gutted after doing all that "research" lol,

Just ordered some VasoXplode, looks pretty good.

[Warneckutz]

haha I bet he's gutted after doing all that "research" lol,

Just ordered some VasoXplode, looks pretty good.

I'm waiting for my VasoXplode to come in. I ordered it in a combo pack with USPLabs Pump... great price and I figured after I'm done with all of my C.L. stacks I may give it a shot.

[SlimNed]

anyone tried NaNO vapor? whats good with that?

[uhockey]

NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/product_writeups/nolimits.pdf

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

The Logs:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234361
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234471
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2041991
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2056601
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2146351
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2047931
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2097831
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2105761
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1809531
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2087001
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2065331
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1905951
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2089911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2054911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2117311

[nga_showtime]

The best ones for me are Nitrix and N.O. Xplode (BSN products). N.O.2 is also pretty good, BUT it's about $100 and for me it didn't work as well.

[Warneckutz]

anyone tried NaNO vapor? whats good with that?

I wasn't all that impressed with Vapor. At first I seemed to get a response, but after about half of the jug 1.5 or 2 scoops didn't seem to cut it.

[CLK-GTR]

I've been using NOXplode for a little over a week now. I noticed the caffeine hit at first but it seems to have worn off now, although i still feel more intensity during my workouts. I'll post up a graph of weights lifted before, during and after my use of it as everything else has stayed the same. So far im lukewarm to it.....i might try white flood next for comparison

[NY Money Mike]

I am a new member but have "stalked the board" for a while, anyway just to put my two cents in:

I am not completely sold on NO2 products in general, but having said that I see tremendous results from them...temporarily. I never use just an NO2 product alone (always stack with at least creatine) so that makes it hard to tell which NO2 product works best for me. I just recently used Superpump250 (with SizeOn) and I it did produce a great pump in the gym but my strength increase wasn't significant and, well, they don't nickname it superdump for no reason.

My favorite is one of the most expensive, MRI's NO2. I just bought the NO2 Black and am in my second week and am beginning to see some results.

Again i'm not sold on NO2 products, theres still much reasearch to be done but for now, since I can afford it...why not.

[Massimus]

When I first started I used no-xplod by BSN, and I thought it was pretty damn good stuff. It gave me a great pump, excellent energy, and good focus. However the things I didn't like about this product was the constant ****s, the erratic mood swings, and water weight gain. But what I really hated about it was the fact that right as it seemed it was starting to produce its full effect...it dropped off...It was like I was taking nothing at all anymore...I hit a total flatline after about 4-5 weeks. But i'd say over all its an okay product...the price is pretty reasonable now, I think its abit over-hyped though.

Then I started using NOX-CG3 and this stuff was pretty good. I could feel it working but it didn't give me that crazy feeling that the no-xplod did (probably because of the lack of caffene) However it worked...I didn't see any durrastic gains but it did work alittle, I could feel that extra push at the end of my sets...But this **** is EXPENCIVE!! go to e-bay and find the guy who sells it 2 400g cans for like 35 bills, what a discount!

Now I am currently on Super Pump 250 by gaspari, and i've only been on it for alittle while so I am not going to fan boy up this product...But it definetly works, the pump, the energy and intensity is there, I am pretty pleased so far..but like I said, I only just started taking it. (btw: this product tastes the worst of any no2 product i've taken..but its not so bad, its tolerable) I will be journaling this product for as long as the tub last me...so if you want to see my gains just check my profile.

Just my two cents.

[SwolenONE]

RPM, Primal N20 and Ragnarok are all my fav, tied for performance. ragnarok is the best tasting NO2 supp in blue razz

[alius korg]

Currently using BSN Nitrix.

works perfect for me....

[xgatoradex]

dymatize xpand works amazing for me. endurance is insane.pumps are insane. ive tried no xplode and this totaly blows no xplode away. i tried the energizeed xpand btw.

[_Mazza_]

Just tried VasoXplode for the first time after hearing good things about it and wow!

I've tried Animal Pump before but didn't get much from it.

I mixed 1.5 scoops of vasoxplode in water and took it 30 minutes before workout, tasted okay, lemon falvour is sweet and can imagine it getting sickly after a while but I don't care for taste anyway.

After about 15 minutes my stomach felt a bit uneasy but went away after a couple of minutes.

I was tired from spending all day out and about getting some clothes for summer, but this gave me lots of energy without the jitter.

I increased weights on my Squat, Deadlift and Pendlay Row and I don't usually get a pump in my back or legs but did get one today, not skin ripping but I could definately feel it, my biceps were pumped too after doing the rows. I did also notice that I sometimes got a mild headache with deadlifts even with breathing in between reps, but it went away today.

Overall I'm very pleased with it because like I said I tried Animal Pump and didn't get anything from it (the red pill is overated too) and was worried I just didn't respond to NO products, but I think it must be either a) a better product or b) I respond better to powdered supplements.

Also I ought to note my VasoXplode was pretty lumpy when I got it and quite tough to break so I mashed it all with a fork and shook it as hard as I could and most of the lumps went away, as for mixibility it was opkay but I go a few tiny lumps at the bottom which I couldn't mix it whatever I tried.

All in all I would say 9/10 as it's quite cheap and I'll get about 26 servings from it at my dosage (1.5 scoops) which should last about 6 and half weeks as I workout 4x a week with my split.

[HSP10]

anyone tried NaNO vapor? whats good with that?

I've tried it. Took about two scoops each time I used it (about two weeks) and while it does work, makes me feel really crashed and also makes me really hot and itchy during a workout. However, the focus is well improved. It's okay, but not top-quality by any means. Then again, it is MuscleTech (no offence to those who like it).

[Handsome Maxout]

well, from my workplace (GNC) we don't carry white flood or NO limits so i cant explain either of those but i can do these for ya, in no particular order...

1. NaNoX9 - Pill form - MuscleTech

These pills are pretty magical by what people have told me, best selling NO product at the store and no disappointment, co worker takes it and loves it. If you are looking for a pill or an overall NO product then consider this.

2. BSN NO Xplode - Powder - BSN

This stuff worked well for me but i guess I'm part of a divided crowd. I don't recommend it because I honestly can't feel it with the Blue Rasberry. The old kind with the yellow lid, fruit punch flavored, was my first and that **** was wild. So was Citrus but when the new kind came out with the silver lid, i noticed a change. Maybe it was just a self-fulfilling prophecy or something but I expected difference and the taste wasnt there, and if the taste isnt there, my workouts go downhill. However controversial, this **** may give you a good pump (and perhaps the ****s too), but thats from my experience.

3. NanoVapor - Powder - MuscleTech

Despite the grand hype (and superb commission!), this stuff sucked for me. Co worker thinks its good, not as good as X9 but good. I felt my skin tingle with it, but more like a burning prickly feeling. Taste was inferior to Xplode as well. It may be worth a shot but MuscleTech is a wierd, wierd company, if you wanna be wierd then at least try the X9.

4. SuperPump250 - Powder - Gaspari Nutrition

I had the best workout of my life with this stuff, when i was using two rolls of toilet paper to wipe my ass i saw some good veins on my forearms. This stuff will rent out a restroom for you and park your bottom in their all day. I felt a decent pump I guess. Tasted alright i guess. It sells like hotcakes but for what reason, i know not.

5. Nitrix - Pill - BSN

Horse pill is more like it. Massive and doesn't do anything for me unless stacked with a true NO product. Then again it's pretty much 3g of arginine so oh well, what do you expect. There are better products out there so avoid the coleman label and put some money into...

6. NO2 Black - Pill - MRI

Better then platinum and thus more expensive. It gives you good vascularity from word of mouth, though haven't tried it. Hot product though, sells like beads on mardi gras. However, I'd spend my 85 dollars on some good protein and perhaps start a mono preworkout.

7. TRAC Extreme-NO - Powder - MHP

Seems to give a raging pump but perhaps too much for some. I really cannot comment, I'd like to try it but then again, I'll use my discount on protein, protein, protein.


In conclusion, NO is no miracle and I have seen its ups and downs. If you want to get excited to go to the gym, perhaps an NO product will do it for you. If you wanna get big, eat more and supplement your protein and aminos. Not included in these reviews were Blast Cycle by Fizogen, White Flood by C.L., and many other products that have debatable effects. Maybe they work but bottom line is, there are better ways to spend your money. The biggest rush you can get from working out is the results, not a drink.

[snowdownmypants]

ok....so im totally new to any kind of supplements/pre-workouts/anything

iv heard a lot of good things about noxplode enough to make me really want to take it. unfortunately i have anxiety problems so i cant take high levels of caffeine or it may induce an anxiety attack

so basically what my question is.....is can anyone recommend to me something with the creatine and nitric oxide combination that doesnt have caffeine or any mind stimulants?

[ccs77]

ok....so im totally new to any kind of supplements/pre-workouts/anything

iv heard a lot of good things about noxplode enough to make me really want to take it. unfortunately i have anxiety problems so i cant take high levels of caffeine or it may induce an anxiety attack

so basically what my question is.....is can anyone recommend to me something with the creatine and nitric oxide combination that doesnt have caffeine or any mind stimulants?

Six Star Whey Protien and Six star Nitric Oxide Overdrive for pre work out and Six Star Fruit punch Creatine for post work out seemed to be a decent stack for me before I hopped on NO-Xplode.

[Big Dude 54]

So with 80+ pages of warring on NO products, is there a consensus at all on any of them?

I think the most controversial is NO-Xplod, but any of these products received an astounding "YES!"?

[uhockey]

So with 80+ pages of warring on NO products, is there a consensus at all on any of them?

I think the most controversial is NO-Xplod, but any of these products received an astounding "YES!"?

Look at NO-Limits. Not a bad review yet.

[thebasil]

Look at NO-Limits. Not a bad review yet.

my friend just got me a bottle as a late birthday gift, i look forward to giving it a shot :D

ill post results tomorrow for anyone that cares.

[jokerzwild]

well i never got anything from superpump 250 my personal favorite is nitrobolic extreme its got a nice taste the first week was diffucult for me after 15mins of working out my arms i could barely bend them but they were huge and after that week it was amazing i was lifting more and didnt get exhausted some sleepless nights through

[grumpy74]

I just started using the Grape flavor N.O.-XPLODE from BSN. I was a little skeptical but said what the heck. I took a dose (one scoop) last night to test my reaction and not much happened. I took another scoop in the morning to see if it had any effect through out the day. Nothing really happened. My workouts are normaly at 5 in the morning but i over slept. So at 10:30 I took two scoops with about 16oz of water. The taste is not gritty like te other mixes I have had but there is a sharpness to it. during the workout I found I could lift a lot more that what I am use to lifting. It is now 4:48pm and I can still feel the pump that I get in the gym. Yes the product is a little on the pricey side ($38.95) but it is not the most expencive out there I would recomend this product. But everyone is different and needs to find out for them self what they would like to use.

[RobNyc]

I just started using the Grape flavor N.O.-XPLODE from BSN. I was a little skeptical but said what the heck. I took a dose (one scoop) last night to test my reaction and not much happened. I took another scoop in the morning to see if it had any effect through out the day. Nothing really happened. My workouts are normaly at 5 in the morning but i over slept. So at 10:30 I took two scoops with about 16oz of water. The taste is not gritty like te other mixes I have had but there is a sharpness to it. during the workout I found I could lift a lot more that what I am use to lifting. It is now 4:48pm and I can still feel the pump that I get in the gym. Yes the product is a little on the pricey side ($38.95) but it is not the most expencive out there I would recomend this product. But everyone is different and needs to find out for them self what they would like to use.

damn thats a lot of water compare to what they recommend.. i take 1-3 scoops with 8oz of water.. does more water does more effect?

[mols0n]

Honestly, I used No-explode for 2 cycles and I think its crap. I got a good energy burst the first week when I was on it but then I had to keep upping my dosage. I didn't notice much of a strength gain in the gym or the pumps, but I guess someone people have had good experiences with it.

[alejocifuentes]

I think the best products to use to get mass and lean are No xplode, Cellmass and Nitrix all three from BSN, use them at the same time with a helathy food rich in protein, you can see results and your body is gonna look different. 3 months later you can add Testobolan (I force) and you'll see what you have. The most important is a good workout, knowing your body, knowing every muscle, and feel this muscle in your body. Not overtraining, changes every 2 months your workout style......

[thebasil]

NO LIMITS:

so i did chest today. i noticed my chest was fuller, but not many veins popping out, probly because im still high bodyfat.

triceps felt better as well.

only negative was that the bottle smells BADDDDDDDDDD. really bad.

[uhockey]

NO LIMITS:

so i did chest today. i noticed my chest was fuller, but not many veins popping out, probly because im still high bodyfat.

triceps felt better as well.

only negative was that the bottle smells BADDDDDDDDDD. really bad.

It is the esters......they don't smell great, but you never smell it on yourself, so it is all good! :D

[pu12en12g]

i might try white flood next for comparison

Hell yea !! Give it a try :cool:

[six7one]

BSN...Nitrix, NO explode and Cell Mass...Amazing results, but it all boils down to your diet..Go hard or go home...My .02..peace

[212121]

Hell yea !! Give it a try :cool:

I ordered it now! White flood and Wtf pumped, i will take them both (not same day of course) during each week, one day white flood next day wtf pumped

[ElWilson]

Would you say that it is neccessary to stack Nitrix, NO X-Plode and Cellmass?

Could you get the same results from using Nitrix or Cellmass or NO X-Plode alone?
Also, when should I start using the NO as i'll be doing a 12 week periodization routine.
i.e
First 4 weeks - 12 reps
4-8 weeks - 5 reps
8-12 weeks - 3 reps

Cheers,

[stonehands]

I've been through 2 cans of SuperPoop 250. First 2 days it gave me the runs, workouts and energy were worth the trips to the John. I cycled off for two weeks between cans and those two weeks felt like a waste at the gym after working out with this stuff in my system. Fruit punch is hard to choke down but the orange is a little bit better. The ads say they dare you to train without it....after using it I agree, you kind of get addicted to the energy and pumps this stuff produces. I never noticed any let up in energy or pumps after being on it a while like some report with NO products. Two scoops on workouts days were pleny for me and I'm 6' 3" 240. I tried upping the dose to 3 scoops on my second can but it was too much and made my heart race too much during my workouts. Was just curious if anybody with nutrional background has any idea what is in this stuff that is the cause of the frequent trips to the bathroom?

[reller]

i really like bsn explode first time i used it i noticed a huge difference in my muscles they felt fuller. I have also tried super pump 250 or as i like to call it super dump i crashed harder on it.

[RobNyc]

I used 3 scoops last friday and it gave me the ****s but i worked out good.
this tuesday I took 2 scoops and about an 1hr 1/2 after i drank it i was freakin energized like crazy.. i worked out more at the end than i did at first lol .. so it takes 45mins to start working for me it seems..

but i've sticked to 2 scoops now. monday i will use 1 1/2 scoops tho. im 6'2 165-170 ..

[RobNyc]

Would you say that it is neccessary to stack Nitrix, NO X-Plode and Cellmass?

Could you get the same results from using Nitrix or Cellmass or NO X-Plode alone?
Also, when should I start using the NO as i'll be doing a 12 week periodization routine.
i.e
First 4 weeks - 12 reps
4-8 weeks - 5 reps
8-12 weeks - 3 reps

Cheers,

I've stacked No-XPlode + CellMass because its a good combo. Now I just ordered Syntha-6 and TrueMass to have the whole stack. I dont like pills so I didnt have to order nitrix or axis-ht

[bly3]

anyone wanna give me a comparrison of no-xplode ot white flood?

[zkid002]

For Those of You who take NO2 Supplements...What is your main reason?..Like, is the point of taking NO2 supplements for vascularity?..or energy, or pumps?..which one?

[RobNyc]

anyone wanna give me a comparrison of no-xplode ot white flood?

I've used both .. 3 samples of WF .. and been using NO-Xplode for 2 weeks now. The first time I tried WF it was just WOW Amazing (never had tried a pre workout supp before ) I was so huge that day i was lifting like crazy .
But second and third samples didn't do much or anything to me dont know why.

No-Xplode has been good since day 1. It even starts kicking harder after 1hr 30mins of use and stuff. Yesterday I waited almost 2hrs to workout and it was still there.

[pu12en12g]

I ordered it now! White flood and Wtf pumped, i will take them both (not same day of course) during each week, one day white flood next day wtf pumped

Should be WILD :cool:

[kceb]

White flood rocks

[DeOppressoLiber]

Ive been only taking protein as a supplement for years but a few weeks back started taking Fierce by SAN. I have no experience with any other NO-type product to make a comparison but in my opinion, SAN really gets you working.

[notalent2002]

would it be possible to add a Poll to this? That would really show the best like product....just a suggestion.

[Lifthard3]

would it be possible to add a Poll to this? That would really show the best like product....just a suggestion.

THis thread is sooo long and it would really help to have a poll to tally up the votes here ...

[nicke03]

Has anyone used Trac by MHP? I hear its one of the best NO's around. I've used NO-Xpolde, Nos-Blast, and Superpump. Nos-Blast is a weaker NO-X and NO-X gives lots of energy and not enough of pump. As of now, I like Superpump much better than the other two.

MHP TRAC anyone?

[b.mervs-15-]

best tasting-->Xpand NO Reactor
worst tasting-->NaNo Vapor
top 4 in order--->N-O Xplode
NaNo Vapor
Super Pump
Xpand

[No_Excuses89]

I have tried No-Xplode, Animal Pump, and SuperPump. So far I have only seemed to feel that Animal Pump has effected me the most. I seemed to have a more full pump during my workout. It kicked in right away, right from the first set and it continued throughout my whole workout. No drop off at all. It did take a few days for it to kick in though. So if you try that stick with it for a few days to kick in. The only thing I didn't like was taking all of the pills but I got used to it. I did like No-Xplode too. It was a nice energy rush and I seemed to have more intense workouts while on it. I did receive quite a good pump while on it also but nowhere near as good as Animal Pump. The only thing i didn't like was that I had to start taking more and more doses of it due to the fact that the effects started to taper off after being on it for a short time. I am currently on SuperPump. I like it also. Not as good of pumps as Animal Pump though. I don't receive much of an energy kick as the other two. The good thing about it is that I don't need to take high doses for it to work. It is a very consistent product. Overall i would go with Universal Animal Pump though.

[Max M OC]

Being a store owner you have to try all kinds of products before you sell them. I have used most of these listed on this thread with okay results until Max Muscle came out with Full Blown Extreme. This is the best by far and even though I sell all listed, once my customers try this one they never go back to the old stuff they were using.Trust me the others don`t even compare when it comes to ingrediants for the money.

[zackt1287]

Has anyone used Trac by MHP? I hear its one of the best NO's around. I've used NO-Xpolde, Nos-Blast, and Superpump. Nos-Blast is a weaker NO-X and NO-X gives lots of energy and not enough of pump. As of now, I like Superpump much better than the other two.

MHP TRAC anyone?

It was one the first NO I tried and I liked it... although initial strength gains normally are rapid when starting working out, I felt that the energy, vascularity, and strength gains that i experienced while using it over 3 months were above average. on the downside, the reason I stopped using it was because I felt that NO xplode did more for me, tasted a lot better, and was less expensive, at least at that time. I would recommend it, but not orange flavor, it felt very acidy to me and it sometimes gave me stomach problems.

[zackt1287]

For Those of You who take NO2 Supplements...What is your main reason?..Like, is the point of taking NO2 supplements for vascularity?..or energy, or pumps?..which one?

All of the above, and no negative side effects, unless you take it on a full stomach, which your not supposed to do, which can cause diarrhea. here is a helpful link for benefits and uses of NO boosters...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/no2.html

everything you need to know...

[hvillpimp524]

First time I tried N.O. Explode, it was like heaven in the weightroom...I was really impressed. I'm gettin a new jug of the blue rasberry flavor in a few days..I was pushing 274 on the iso-lateral wide bench press machine at Iron Works and the pump was amazing...the vascularity in my chest was actually scaring me when I looked in the mirror because I've never seen it so defined before..that and my arms felt like rocks ;]

[Draga]

bsn no xplode + nitrix :$ sorry to had a mix to the flavour works so well together

[Warneckutz]

I'm giving my vote to C.L.'s Controlled Labs. I've tried a few different brands (I used to live off mixing Lemonade NO-Xplode & Berry Cell-Mass - AWESOME), but the rush I get from White Flood seems a lot more intense than the others.

[grumpy74]

damn thats a lot of water compare to what they recommend.. i take 1-3 scoops with 8oz of water.. does more water does more effect?

The can calls for 4-5 oz of water per scoop so three scoops should be around 15oz. The can also states that add or reduce water to taste.

[RobNyc]

The can calls for 4-5 oz of water per scoop so three scoops should be around 15oz. The can also states that add or reduce water to taste.

true.. :) i agree

[dpeterson75]

I have used many different NO products. NO Xplode is a good starter if you have not used one before it defintly gives you an amazing mental and physical pump while working out. If you want something cheaper that works well try Shock Therepy. It works well mayeb even better on a physical sence than NOXplode but I did not get any mental help from it. I am now on WTF Pumped and it tastes horrible but has given me the best pump. I highly recomend it if you have come "immune" to NOXplode like what happened to me.

[hennessey1027]

bsn is the best company out, but i do like no na vapor better

[Jinru]

Hey guys, I'm new to the supplement section and wanted to ask a question lol. I currently take a ON 100% whey shake 30min pre-workout and then another right after post-workout, but I'm looking at trying BSN NO-Xplode and was wondering if taking the Xplode 45min before workout and then a protein shake 30min before workout would be alright or should I drop the pre-shake altogether?

[No_Excuses89]

No-Xplode works better on an empty stomach, atleast in my experience. i was always told to drop the pre-shake when taking a pump product. just what I was told.

[JIGSAW]

bsn is the best company out, but i do like no na vapor better

Yeah right.....keep telling yourself that. BSN.

[jkali471]

I was on Gaspari's Super Pump 250 for a while, i felt like it was working well at first but had a sudden loss in appetite... whether the cause for that was the Super Pump im not really sure but the most recent NO product i've tried is VPX's NO Shotgun and i love it. The taste is much better if u mix it with gatorade or something. I get a sick pump during my workout and it stays with me for a while. I can definetly tell the difference when im working out without taking it.

[jkali471]

Hey guys, I'm new to the supplement section and wanted to ask a question lol. I currently take a ON 100% whey shake 30min pre-workout and then another right after post-workout, but I'm looking at trying BSN NO-Xplode and was wondering if taking the Xplode 45min before workout and then a protein shake 30min before workout would be alright or should I drop the pre-shake altogether?

it should work just as well if u take the protein like u want to. there are NO products out there that have protein in them and ON 100% isnt that big a deal. try one day with the shake n one without to see if u can tell any difference. u should be fine though

[flaco10y8]

I think BSN NO-xplode, is awesome, I'm currently using one scoop, I think it say to use too, but I can't afford that. Anyway I really feel the difference when I take it 30-45mins pre-workout. Without it I feel drained.

Just bought Vasoxplode, going to start in a few weeks when i run out of No-xplode.

[RichMeisterMan]

I've only taken NOX-CG3 and so far I think it's great. I've been taking it for a month now and I'll definitely be buying some more. I've noticed the increased gains and I don't think I could go back to not taking it.

Right now I am taking 2 scoops, is it alright if I boost it to 3 if two doesn't seem to be doing it for me?

[pu12en12g]

I'm giving my vote to C.L.'s Controlled Labs. I've tried a few different brands (I used to live off mixing Lemonade NO-Xplode & Berry Cell-Mass - AWESOME), but the rush I get from White Flood seems a lot more intense than the others.

Hell yea... spread the word :cool:

[pu12en12g]

White flood rocks

Especially for the price !! :cool:

[Kevio]

I'm looking into getting a NO product soon and I've been reading over this thread...but there are so many things to choose from. I think I've narrowed it down to these two, what do you guys suggest?

N.O. Shotgun
White Flood

[infernomuscle2012]

let tell u guys that nano vapor whatever the hell it is by Muscletech is pure sicko, lol, it def does something, typically my first workout is enhanced slighty but the second workout and following, WHOA, 315lb deadlifts were nothing, It def unleashes the animal within! Awesome ****!

[ScottH]

Has anyone used Cell Tech and No-Xplode?

What is the difference you experienced with each product? I am debating on if I wanna try Cell Tech or continue to purchase the No-xplode product.

Thanks

[b_andersson]

100% arginine its cheap and very effective.

[Curley678]

Pure L-Arginine is awesome, a lot cheaper then most of the products out there and just as effective.

[Lord-MarDuke]

Pure L-Arginine is awesome, a lot cheaper then most of the products out there and just as effective.


I can never find a pure form of it. Does it only come in pill form?

I got better results with Stone Dragon than I did with NO Explode.

[uhockey]

Pure L-Arginine is awesome, a lot cheaper then most of the products out there and just as effective.

Check out NO-Limits. I personally feel that although L-Arg is cheaper, it isn't cheap enough to reconcile the difference in how much BETTER No-Limits truly is.

[BIG CHUCKY]

Fellas I Cant Answer This From Experience But My Brother Was A Die Hard Bsn No Xplode User And Ran Out . He Was In Walmart One Night And Decided To Try Six Star Muscle Fuels Nitric Oxide Stimulator I Think It Is Called And Never Went Away From It Since.

[BIG CHUCKY]

Actually Fellas It Is Called Nitric Oxide Overdrive Professional Strength.

[BigArty]

Ok now Muscletech prices are usually high but i LOVE Vapor. I have tried X-pand its good, NO-Xplode was great but nothing drives me as much as Vapor does. When they tell you to try one scoop first before going on full dose that one scoop is amazing! then you go to 2 scoops and are like HOLY **** and it blows you socks off! i havent tried 3 scoops yet becuase i havent need to. Anyway in my opinion Vapor is amazing and i think you should try it if you havent! And BSN products are good also!

Get big or DIE! BigArty

[the joeSTAR]

the guyu above me is big on vapor, but i tried it and my energy levels went way down during my workout. the pump is pretty good, but its basically the same amout of NO in the NOxplode and superpump 250, but the have niacin in it as well. if you take more than one scoop your first time chances are your face will get red as hell and maybe you arms will get some weird rash look on them.
i work at a GNC and have had a lot of complaint about the energy from nano vapor, but some people kinda like it.
as far as just a preworkout goes, i dont think anything can touch the NO shotgun. it has redline in it and has some pretty good pumps too. i like superpump 250 the best, just cuz the energy is so clean and i really blast away in the gym on that stuff. you will get a tolerance to the NOxploe pretty quick, so do yourself a favor and try superpump. i was up to 4 scoops on the NOXplode, and switched to gasparis superpump and only needed 2 scoops.
those are all geared more towards giuving you energy for the gym tho. If you want serious pumps, i say NX Lab's plasmavol is the best thing you can do. its a pre workout and you will see the results the first time you take the stuff. no caffine, but it has carbs for energy. where most NO2s make you hard in teh gym, this stuff basically makes you huge!! if you take an NO2 with it you will be kickin some @$$ in your workout.

[BIG CHUCKY]

Brother You Arent The First Person I Have Heard Rave About The Vapor. As I Get Closer To The Weight/fat Pct. I Am Looking For I Intend To Try It But For Now I Feel I Will Be Wasting Money Because No Matter How Pumped I Get You Cant Tell If You Know Where I Am Going With This.

[hmc2575]

I keep hearing about wtf pump'd by **** the makers of venom. Has anybody tried it and are the pumps really as insane as they say?

[pu12en12g]

I keep hearing about wtf pump'd by **** the makers of venom. Has anybody tried it and are the pumps really as insane as they say?

I've tried it.... it's strictly for the hardcore :cool:

[ggutknecht]

After trying NO explode for the last month I have to say that I will be trying something else. I did get great pumps and maybe a bit of extra energy but that is about it. Alot of people seem to like superpump something and shot gun so I guess I will try one of those next.

[PAINisPOWER]

I had great pumps w/ NO Xplode. Took it on an empty stomach and made me uneasy for awhile before I got used to it. But I got a sample of Gaspari's Superpump 250 at a competition, bought a jug the next day! Everybody's body reacts different, but prolly some of the best pumps I've ever had!

[PAINisPOWER]

Oh yeah.. likin what I hear about White Flood.. Think I'm gonna hit it up next!

[boss67]

Muscletech's pre workout Nano Vapor ofcouse.....

and Dymatize's XPAND - ENERGISED ! ;)

[TJ2000]

Superpump250 is good, but the first time I took it was the best for some reason. Afterwards it wasn't bad, but the intensity wasn't as nice imo. I remember taking it on back day and on tbar rows I never went over 2 45lb plates (I know weak right) anyway, I got up to 4 plates that day (not lying) not for alot of reps mind you, but I still got a few and thats good for me :) I also did really good on lat pulldowns that day going from maxing with 90lbs to around 110lbs :)
As for others, NO shotgun is very good stuff too. It may work very well for others but for me it did good enough, not great, but its very good for energy boost. No xplode didn't do anything except make me a bit nervous, no pumps or anything. I'd go with them in this order for those looking for a NO product:

From best to worse (IMO)

NO shotgun
Superpump250
Fast twitch
Shock therapy
No xplode
can of monster lol

go with the no shotgun for 2-3 scoops, it'll be great!

[suspek24]

Superpump250 is good, but the first time I took it was the best for some reason. Afterwards it wasn't bad, but the intensity wasn't as nice imo. I remember taking it on back day and on tbar rows I never went over 2 45lb plates (I know weak right) anyway, I got up to 4 plates that day (not lying) not for alot of reps mind you, but I still got a few and thats good for me :) I also did really good on lat pulldowns that day going from maxing with 90lbs to around 110lbs :)
As for others, NO shotgun is very good stuff too. It may work very well for others but for me it did good enough, not great, but its very good for energy boost. No xplode didn't do anything except make me a bit nervous, no pumps or anything. I'd go with them in this order for those looking for a NO product:

From best to worse (IMO)

NO shotgun
Superpump250
Fast twitch
Shock therapy
No xplode
can of monster lol

go with the no shotgun for 2-3 scoops, it'll be great!

I agree with your order, but 2-3 scoops is a lot for shotgun, but to each his own. My friend used fast twitch one time and during the workout I knocked it all over the floor. I must admit, it ruined the pump. :-P

[suspek24]

I'm looking into getting a NO product soon and I've been reading over this thread...but there are so many things to choose from. I think I've narrowed it down to these two, what do you guys suggest?

N.O. Shotgun
White Flood

Just look at the ingredient profile, that should help you decide for yourself.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/no.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/flood.html

IMO Shotgun because it has 3 different types of creatine including creatine monohydrate and ethyl ester, BCAA's, beta alanine which is also in white flood and it has redline's energy formula. There's not too many people that don't like redline.

[Warneckutz]

Just look at the ingredient profile, that should help you decide for yourself.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/no.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/flood.html

IMO Shotgun because it has 3 different types of creatine including creatine monohydrate and ethyl ester, BCAA's, beta alanine which is also in white flood and it has redline's energy formula. There's not too many people that don't like redline.

Speaking of VPX's Redline -

I had an inadvertent mix of White Flood, Purple Wraath and a Redline Extreme today... Yeah, that was a total rush (and I needed it; leg day and I was dragging)!

[Kingbuddy]

I just started using MT NaNO Vapor and I know people give alot of **** here on MT products but hey it was a gift, but I do plan on buying this again once im done. The taste isnt that great but its better then NO Shotgun. Mix a couple extra oz of water and you can easily drink it. I only used 1 scoop and I got Rock hard pumps. I was focused and energy was there for me to complete my workout. Should defin at least give it a consideration

[Warneckutz]

I just started using MT NaNO Vapor and I know people give alot of **** here on MT products but hey it was a gift, but I do plan on buying this again once im done. The taste isnt that great but its better then NO Shotgun. Mix a couple extra oz of water and you can easily drink it. I only used 1 scoop and I got Rock hard pumps. I was focused and energy was there for me to complete my workout. Should defin at least give it a consideration

How long have you been using it? I noticed a few people (myself included) experienced a decent reaction at first but it's effectiveness soon diminished (it took about 5 days from the beginning for me) before I had to double (even triple) scoop.

For me, their naNO X9 pills worked better and for the full supply (I only bought them because the GNC next to my gym had them on sale and gym employees get an additional percentage off so it brought it down to $40).

Good luck with the VAPOR! Hopefully it works out for you!

V/R,

ANT

[IndianForeigner]

I am currently using NANO Vapor and think that it is pretty good but I thought that NO Xplode was even better. I'm almost out of Vapor so I was wondering what I should get next. I have heard that TRAC is good.

[Spriggan]

I cast my vote for Controlled Labs...

I am currently using nothing but BSN, but I'm tired off all the powders. I prefer the pill variety and it seems to work for me but I respond to everything.

[RobNyc]

I called BSN a few times and those guys just help me a lot.
Which other company has toll-free help ?

I'm using this BSN stack so far. And its great, taste good, mixes well, I've tried it with water, juice, milk greaat... I'm going to throw out the Egg Whites Liquid I have because it seems I'm allergic to eggs. Or maybe use the egg whites for food instead.

If i'm at home I use 1 scoop of no-xplode on empty stomach. works faster
If i'm heading to work/gym i use 2 scoops since i work really early in the morning so i can have good energy throughout day and it works great.

always try to take pre-workout on empty stomach so it can work faster

[Buildin Muscle]

I use Horsepower http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=14552
Not a lot of people mention this one.
It definately works better on an empty stomach.
I stopped having my morning protein shake and my workouts have been much more intense. I always have a shake afterwards and definately feel better for it.

The only problem is that this stuff doesn't mix well at all . The taste takes getting used to. I would really prefer to find an alternative.

[suspek24]

Speaking of VPX's Redline -

I had an inadvertent mix of White Flood, Purple Wraath and a Redline Extreme today... Yeah, that was a total rush (and I needed it; leg day and I was dragging)!

Yea I got legs today and could use some extra energy, I've been studying this whole weeek for an exam that I got a 90% on today. So hopefully the Shotgun will really kick in when I need it. And then it's off to the club. You ever try shotgun?

[suspek24]

I called BSN a few times and those guys just help me a lot.
Which other company has toll-free help ?

I'm using this BSN stack so far. And its great, taste good, mixes well, I've tried it with water, juice, milk greaat... I'm going to throw out the Egg Whites Liquid I have because it seems I'm allergic to eggs. Or maybe use the egg whites for food instead.

If i'm at home I use 1 scoop of no-xplode on empty stomach. works faster
If i'm heading to work/gym i use 2 scoops since i work really early in the morning so i can have good energy throughout day and it works great.

always try to take pre-workout on empty stomach so it can work faster

I think a lot of the bigger companies have toll free help. I've called VPX when people on the board had complaints about their labeling and got a direct answer for free. I would assume that other companies have the same thing, not just BSN. But yea, it is nice to have. You take a total of 3 scoops a day? or am I reading it wrong?

[Warneckutz]

Yea I got legs today and could use some extra energy, I've been studying this whole weeek for an exam that I got a 90% on today. So hopefully the Shotgun will really kick in when I need it. And then it's off to the club. You ever try shotgun?

No, I haven't tried it. I recently invested in a few cycles of the Controlled Labs Stack. I've heard some good things though, now hearing the talk about a new version sounds pretty interesting. One day I'll give it a shot, but right now I'm gauging my progress with the C.L. stack and I'm happy where it's going.

[suspek24]

No, I haven't tried it. I recently invested in a few cycles of the Controlled Labs Stack. I've heard some good things though, now hearing the talk about a new version sounds pretty interesting. One day I'll give it a shot, but right now I'm gauging my progress with the C.L. stack and I'm happy where it's going.

Yea, I think controlled labs has good ingredients, but if they combined them into one product it'd be a lot better. That's why I prefer Shotgun over CL's products.

[BoakeCity]

I just about read all of these pages the past few days and going to try NO-X, Tell ya how it works

[Warneckutz]

Yea, I think controlled labs has good ingredients, but if they combined them into one product it'd be a lot better. That's why I prefer Shotgun over CL's products.

One advantage to all the different products is a different tasting supplement!

Lemonade > Grape > Sour Apple / Lemonade

Odd reasoning, but, what the heck! ;-)

[Warneckutz]

I just about read all of these pages the past few days and going to try NO-X, Tell ya how it works

I tried to search the store, a lot of them share a similar name. May I ask what brand? Or is NO-X short for NO-Xplode?

[CRUZ007]

NO explode is the bomb.

WHAT ABOUT NO SHOT GUN GOOD ARE BAD

[lamplighter]

Has anyone here tried Biogenetix Brand NO-D2T? It's made by NxCare, rather expensive, relatively new, and supposedly "America's Strongest Nitric Oxide."

[BoakeCity]

I tried to search the store, a lot of them share a similar name. May I ask what brand? Or is NO-X short for NO-Xplode?

My bad man, No-Xplode the orange flavor, actually where I am at it was only like 46 dollars with 5 samples of Cell mass and Syhta-6 ( Suckerd in by free-be's). I Tired a little bit of the flavor and I think it tastes pretty good.

[1badvette]

im using nano vapor as a pre workout and the new NO2 black by MRI , stuff works great . im 143lbs and my bech went up by 40 lbs in 5 weeks im @ 285 max

[lamplighter]

im using nano vapor as a pre workout and the new NO2 black by MRI , stuff works great . im 143lbs and my bech went up by 40 lbs in 5 weeks im @ 285 max

That's a whole lot of nitric oxide...

[CLK-GTR]

im a few weeks down the line on NO-Xplode and it still working pretty well. My lifts have improved 3 or 4 % above normal. I did think i'd gotten used and the effects had worn off until i took my usual dose and then didnt make it to the gym. For the next 2 hours i was climbing the walls

[Nick_04]

ive been using shot gun for about 1 month and havent felt any pump from it what gives? when i used superpump i felt it the first week and then i got used to it. Maybe im used to no shotgun to. Any suggestions on other N.O's to try?

[Warneckutz]

ive been using shot gun for about 1 month and havent felt any pump from it what gives? when i used superpump i felt it the first week and then i got used to it. Maybe im used to no shotgun to. Any suggestions on other N.O's to try?

I really think it all depends on the person. I'm currently using Controlled Labs' White Flood. I like it and I get a better pump versus NO-Xplode (which is also a good product, but *I* respond better to White Flood).

While ultimately not very cost effective, ABB's Nitric Force drinks work well for me too.

GOOD LUCK!

[uhockey]

Because results speak louder than simple "recommendations."


NO-Limits

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[Warneckutz]

Because results speak louder than simple "recommendations."


NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

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I've been curious about this product for awhile. I think once I'm finished my bottle of Green Bulge I will add this to the next stack.

[uhockey]

You won't be disappointed

[Kingbuddy]

How long have you been using it? I noticed a few people (myself included) experienced a decent reaction at first but it's effectiveness soon diminished (it took about 5 days from the beginning for me) before I had to double (even triple) scoop.

For me, their naNO X9 pills worked better and for the full supply (I only bought them because the GNC next to my gym had them on sale and gym employees get an additional percentage off so it brought it down to $40).

Good luck with the VAPOR! Hopefully it works out for you!

V/R,

ANT

Been using it for 1 week now and its still working great. Im using 1 and half scoops and the pumps are the still there. The taste is taking some gettin use to but its not horrible by any means. Hopefully it will continue to keep up like this. Unless the effect wears out dont really plan on tryin anything else.

[BIG HANK]

Horespower is the shiznit as far as I am concerned, tell you what!

[Denver Ice]

Niox by nutrex- will give u the best pump and veiny look!

[Andreas2000]

I used to take the BSN N.O. explode, and it gave me the best pumps ever, I mean crazy laughable pumps. But, after a while , like I dunno, 8 weeks, I lost that pump, and it was like nothing. Nitric oxide is for pumps and that "feel" -BSN was great. Cell mass and especially Axis was a waste of money

[uhockey]

I used to take the BSN N.O. explode, and it gave me the best pumps ever, I mean crazy laughable pumps. But, after a while , like I dunno, 8 weeks, I lost that pump, and it was like nothing. Nitric oxide is for pumps and that "feel" -BSN was great. Cell mass and especially Axis was a waste of money

This is common, many people develop tolerance to NO products relatively quickly. Honestly, 8 weeks before adapting is longer than it takes for most. The adaptive mechanism is part of the reason we designed NO-Limits as we did, to prevent that adaptation and let it induce pumps longer (both longer in the day, and longer with repeated dosing for months.)

[Andreas2000]

Interesting. Im looking to get on some N.O after I am done with my PH cycle

[AlphaMaleLilJay]

Horespower is the shiznit as far as I am concerned, tell you what!

I have used Horse Power, and it is very strong and potent. But I had some digestion problems while on it - most of the time I advocate to my clients to simply work past this problem and allow the body to do what it does best (acclimate and adapt)

However, if I were to choose my personal Top-3 Blood Nitrogen Augmentation Supplements, it would have to be:

1. Methyl-MASS, by EST (which their chemists are currently making even better)
2. A tie... between either RPM, or, NO-Limits & Chaos.

[suspek24]

WHAT ABOUT NO SHOT GUN GOOD ARE BAD

NO-Shotgun is what I use and like, it always gives me good pumps and energy when I need it most.



ive been using shot gun for about 1 month and havent felt any pump from it what gives? when i used superpump i felt it the first week and then i got used to it. Maybe im used to no shotgun to. Any suggestions on other N.O's to try?

That's strange, I've used shotgun for months straight and always feel the pump/energy, if I were you I would try to check out another NO product that has caffeine and beta alanine in it.

[Nick_04]

i'm gonna try Dymatize X-PAND Energized my bud is taking it and says its one of the only things that works for him. Anyone heard or experienced this.

[Nick_04]

i'm gonna try Dymatize X-PAND Energized my bud is taking it and says its one of the only things that works for him. Anyone heard or experienced this.

[Nick_04]

sorry for double posting my computer lagged...

[Samihassan]

no2

[Fit4Life1967]

I have tried Animal Pump and was disappointed especially after reading so many positive reviews here. I went through a can of ISS Rush and their NO pill product and did not feel much of anything or experience a significant strength increase or great pump.

Then, I tried Shock Therapy and I felt like an animal. Pumps were great, vascularity was excellent and my strength went up on all my lifts. The only downside was my body started to get acclimated to the caffeine so after about 30 servings (50 in a can which is a great value) I didn't get the same kick. And, I wasn't willing to increase my serving intake. 200 mg of caffeine is enough for me. I am off of it for now, but will take it again in the future. This time I might take it before every other workout or 3 out of 4 during the week in hopes of not getting too used to the caffeine intake.

[Mr Mighty]

Horespower is the shiznit as far as I am concerned, tell you what!

:amen:

[Ascendent]

I'm almost done with my first bottle of NANOx9. Works pretty well.

[lipmadeulook]

I just started NO-Shotgun after using NO-Explode and Superpump 250 and here are my findings:

NO-Explode - Best tasting by far, fairly good pumps and no side effects.

Superpump 250 - tolerable orange cream taste with better pumps than Explode but found that the crash was much more noticeable. I got terrible ****s from this EVERYTIME I took it. Even though it after the gym, give me a break.

No-Shotgun - I am on my 3rd day and am loving the feeling and pumps I get at the gym. I am playing semi-pro football soon and will take it before games because I feel it would be a performance enhancer. The taste is straight up terrible. I tried mixing it with gatorade just for a chance but the overwhelming awful taste of Shotgun comes through. HOWEVER, results over taste for me.

NO-Shotgun all the way so far.

[bigguns35]

I tried X-Fuel by Pro-Rx because the caffiene in NO-Xplode was killing me. X-fuel is caps which sucks but it makes you so aggresive in the gym. I just felt bigger and better. I wont train without it now.

[justin6683]

Horespower is the shiznit as far as I am concerned, tell you what!

the ingredients are good picked up a bottle of lemonlime tastes like ****!! dropped a scoop of it into water just kinda floated and stayed a solid on the top like a boat in water lol... but fruit punch im sure tastes better..

[noynoypnoy]

**** works but its true it makes you have watery number 2!!! To avoid it i suggest you 2 eat a small meal with it and an hour after your workout just take maalox or something of that nature..its been only 3 days and i love what i am noticing about my strenght and mental focus!

[RobNyc]

I think a lot of the bigger companies have toll free help. I've called VPX when people on the board had complaints about their labeling and got a direct answer for free. I would assume that other companies have the same thing, not just BSN. But yea, it is nice to have. You take a total of 3 scoops a day? or am I reading it wrong?

No I never taken 3 lol.. The first time I did take 2 or 3 i forgot I got the ****z :)
But now I just use 1-2 it works for me.

[mattogus]

NO Explode works for me... its the only nitric oxide supplement ive used tho. scratch that ive used nitrix too... after i ran outta the first bottle i decided to not buy more. i couldnt notice that much of a difference when i stopped taking it. good,i saved money...
I recommend noexplode's orange flavor over fruit punch..
it tastes a lot ****tier, and maybe thats the reason it worked better for me than fruit punch =p.. maybe the taste was what got me psyched
overall i like no explode!

[turbotubbs]

pmd pump fuel works great and tried nitrix it was good also. but pump fuel tastes terrible...it has about the same stuff as super pump 25o but has creatine also for 4$ more at gnc

[f81134]

I've been mostly lifting for strength vs. size until recently. My staple supplements are whey protein isolate, fish oil, glucosamine, and animal pak. I've taken creatine years ago when it first came out and noticed rapid increases in strength and size. Now that I'm about to go on a real bulk for the first time in a long while, I'm considering NO as a possible supplement to top off the hypocaloric diet. I see that NO's intention is to allow the blood to "flow" more into the muscles which theoretically should help shuttle nutrients like protein and creatine. However, I'm very weary of new supplements because they always seem to be breaking headlines until about a 1 year period. People start to realize that they are just looking for a quick fix and the supplement vanishes from the advertising. It's easy to succumb to that...the idea of increasing one's performance/asthethics exponentially by eating some powder. I've fallen for it myself - went into denial afterwards about it because you don't want to admit that you've been had. My question (after reading 30 pgs of posts) is how many people are attributing the positive effects of NO products to the actual "ingredient" in question? It seems that many of the products include creatine and good doses of caffeine - which when taken on an empty stomach would probably give you a good bolt of energy (doesn't caffeine partially negate the gains from creatine?). The creatine alone would almost guarantee positive results. I hope you guys look at the ingredient listings to determine whether one product is better than the other. Name branding seems to pervade too many decisions these days. So whom of you have experienced creatine separately and can honestly say that NO itself produced results? I would prefer to hear from non newbies (<2 yrs. lifting) - since they can do everything wrong and still make vast performance gains. The idea of stacking creatine, dextrose, whey, with NO sounds promising. High insulin and a possibility of increased blood flow sounds like a great post workout condition to me. I apologize for the F*&^ing ramble. Thanks ahead.

[7Happy7]

i've used NO Limits and this is the first NO i've used where it actually feels like it increases GH. just a general feeling of agression / sexual urge / increase in test. Sprinkle some placebo effect as grains of salt and you've got my opinion

[Denver Ice]

White blood by controlled labs

[suspek24]

I've been mostly lifting for strength vs. size until recently. My staple supplements are whey protein isolate, fish oil, glucosamine, and animal pak. I've taken creatine years ago when it first came out and noticed rapid increases in strength and size. Now that I'm about to go on a real bulk for the first time in a long while, I'm considering NO as a possible supplement to top off the hypocaloric diet. I see that NO's intention is to allow the blood to "flow" more into the muscles which theoretically should help shuttle nutrients like protein and creatine. However, I'm very weary of new supplements because they always seem to be breaking headlines until about a 1 year period. People start to realize that they are just looking for a quick fix and the supplement vanishes from the advertising. It's easy to succumb to that...the idea of increasing one's performance/asthethics exponentially by eating some powder. I've fallen for it myself - went into denial afterwards about it because you don't want to admit that you've been had. My question (after reading 30 pgs of posts) is how many people are attributing the positive effects of NO products to the actual "ingredient" in question? It seems that many of the products include creatine and good doses of caffeine - which when taken on an empty stomach would probably give you a good bolt of energy (doesn't caffeine partially negate the gains from creatine?). The creatine alone would almost guarantee positive results. I hope you guys look at the ingredient listings to determine whether one product is better than the other. Name branding seems to pervade too many decisions these days. So whom of you have experienced creatine separately and can honestly say that NO itself produced results? I would prefer to hear from non newbies (<2 yrs. lifting) - since they can do everything wrong and still make vast performance gains. The idea of stacking creatine, dextrose, whey, with NO sounds promising. High insulin and a possibility of increased blood flow sounds like a great post workout condition to me. I apologize for the F*&^ing ramble. Thanks ahead.


There was a breakthrough discovery on NO products and VPX was the company to blast through on the headlines. They claim that consumers wasted millions of dollars on NO products that don't work. Because normal Nitric oxide prod's don't work. And that's why they created NO-Shotgun. "YES, IF YOU PURCHASED ANY NO2-TYPE PRODUCT WITH ARGININE AKG, STUDIES SHOW YOU GOT PUNKED! DON?T FEEL BAD, THE NO A-AKG SCAM RIPPED YOUR FRIENDS OFF TOO FOR ABOUT $75,000,000! Take home message: three studies prove NO2-type products containing Arginine AKG simply do NOT work. Further, Arginine should be consumed with Citrulline in order to produce nitric oxide. NO-Shotgun? contains the sophisticated compound, Arginine Ethyl Ester HCl (AEX?) which does not need to be injected and is further enhanced with Citrulline ? necessary to facilitate NO production. Along with these ingredients, Ellagic Acid works in concert with AEX? and Citrulline to further improve NO output."

http://noshotgun.com/

On top of that, Shotgun has 3 different typs of creatines, beta alanine ethyl ester, BCAA's, glutamine and Redline's energy formula. Your really can't go wrong with this as your pre-workout supplement.

[_Mazza_]

There was a breakthrough discovery on NO products and VPX was the company to blast through on the headlines. They claim that consumers wasted millions of dollars on NO products that don't work. Because normal Nitric oxide prod's don't work. And that's why they created NO-Shotgun. "YES, IF YOU PURCHASED ANY NO2-TYPE PRODUCT WITH ARGININE AKG, STUDIES SHOW YOU GOT PUNKED! DON?T FEEL BAD, THE NO A-AKG SCAM RIPPED YOUR FRIENDS OFF TOO FOR ABOUT $75,000,000! Take home message: three studies prove NO2-type products containing Arginine AKG simply do NOT work. Further, Arginine should be consumed with Citrulline in order to produce nitric oxide. NO-Shotgun? contains the sophisticated compound, Arginine Ethyl Ester HCl (AEX?) which does not need to be injected and is further enhanced with Citrulline ? necessary to facilitate NO production. Along with these ingredients, Ellagic Acid works in concert with AEX? and Citrulline to further improve NO output."

http://noshotgun.com/

On top of that, Shotgun has 3 different typs of creatines, beta alanine ethyl ester, BCAA's, glutamine and Redline's energy formula. Your really can't go wrong with this as your pre-workout supplement.

Do you work for VPX? because everything you say seems like a marketing pitch.

[dajack19]

In the morning I take my Animal Pak and a good take of my Higher Power CEE
before workouts. Then I get home and take my unisyn MRP/glutamine which i think is better than any protein shake out there. I Just bought some BSN Nitrix
and im looking forward to taking it before my workouts. Would it be a good idea
to take it with my Animal pak vitamins + CEE?

[kmart07]

BSN N.O. Explode is by the best nitric oxide, easily said. It won Muscle Builder of the Year for 05 and 06 and was also NITRIC OXIDE OF THE YEAR.

[jkali471]

The best NO product ever made is VPX NO Shotgun hands down. Containing three different types of creatine (Creatine Ethyl Ester, Creatine Magnesium Chelate, and Creatine Monohydrate), BCAA's, Beta-Alanine Ethyl Ester, and 16 grams of protein, no other NO product comes close. It definetly gets you the results your looking for.

[Bezerker]

No Explode hands down is the best.. If it can get this old beat up ass going in the morning.. it's got to be good!!

[apardavila]

I have used NOExplode, which I enjoyed, but I feel like I wasn't getting enough bang for my buck. I switched to Xyience NOX-CG3, but it really gives me the runs. I take it 30-45 minutes after a meal, and as soon as I get to the gym, I have to go the bathroom. Plus, since it doesn't have caffeine for that extra kick, I have been taking a caffeine supp on the side.

So now, it's time for a new pre-workout formula. I have heard some great things about Energized Xpand on these forums, but I am also intrigued by Universal Shock Therapy. I currently take Universal's Storm post-workout, and it seems to be working nicely. Plus Shock is six bucks cheaper than Xpand. Shock also has Citrulline, which helps NO consumption in the body.

Does anyone have thoughts on which product is better? Thanks in advance for your help.

Supplements currently taking: ON 100 Percent Whey, ON Casein Protein, Animal Pak, Xyience NOX-CG3, Caffeine and Universal Storm.

[M4D455H0l3]

when i used no products i went with the good ol Universal Shock Therapy.

[zackt1287]

The best NO product ever made is VPX NO Shotgun hands down. Containing three different types of creatine (Creatine Ethyl Ester, Creatine Magnesium Chelate, and Creatine Monohydrate), BCAA's, Beta-Alanine Ethyl Ester, and 16 grams of protein, no other NO product comes close. It definetly gets you the results your looking for.

no...

NO-Xplode ($38.95) -
N.O.-Xplode™'s Proprietary Blend 20,500mg
L-Arginine AKG, L-Citrulline Malate, L-Citrulline
CEM3™ (Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate), Di-Creatine Malate), Trimethylglycine, Glycocyamine, Guanidino Proplonic Acid, Cinnulin PF? (Aqueous Cinnamon Extract), Ketoisocaproate Potassium
Total - 20,500 mg

NO-Shotgun ($44.89) -
Proprietary Muscle Volumizing, NO2, Insulinotrophic And Glutamine Matrix 10,952mg
Proprietary BCAAEX-NV™ (Branced Chain Ethyl Ester Amino Acid Matrix)(as Branched Chain Ethyl Ester Amino Acid Matrix) 5,350mg
Redline Energy Technology 229mg (WOW!)
Total - 16,500

[bigfrosty]

Currently im using Universal shock therapy. Its pretty cheap and solid pumps. No Shotgun and Trac extreme are the best ones on the market now. They both taste kinda sh*tty but pumps r ridiculous. If u have the money I would try one of these. Probally say go with Trac cause it taste just a little better

[asprin]

I have used No Xplode, NO Shotgun, Nitrix and Animal Pump.
NO Xplode- gave me a mad rush and pump, But I started to get amune with the runs
NO Shotgun - Didn't get no kick really, but I got some insane pumps.
Nitrix - Dont even go there
Animal Pump - A allround good supp. Good Pumps, good recovery and a small energy rush. Would rather it had a better rush to it though.

NO-Xplode was prob the best one I tried, but I can't use it as often as I would like. Any one know a mad supp to sub the NO-Xplode?

[NHBBareKnuckler]

5 grams of arginine is all you really need. i used to use NO Xplode and loved it. But everyhting I've ever gotten from any other peoduct i get the same hting from Arginine.

If you want a rush go get a bottle of basic cuts, that will do the trick for cheap.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

White blood by controlled labs

thanks :)

[ncangey0513]

5 grams of arginine is all you really need. i used to use NO Xplode and loved it. But everyhting I've ever gotten from any other peoduct i get the same hting from Arginine.

If you want a rush go get a bottle of basic cuts, that will do the trick for cheap.

or a bottle of caffeine. wouldn't go over 600 mg's, though, no matter who you are.

[uhockey]

Because results speak louder than simple "recommendations."


NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

The Logs:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234361
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234471
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2041991
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2056601
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2146351
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2047931
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2097831
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2105761
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1809531
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2087001
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2065331
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1905951
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2089911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2054911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2117311

[pu12en12g]

I cast my vote for Controlled Labs...


Hell yea :cool:

[DRD4497]

If you had to pick just ONE nitric oxide (NO) product, what would be the best one?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take nitric oxide products, if you should take nitric oxide products, or why some nitrix oxide products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite nitric oxide product and give your detailed reason.)
BSN - NO - Explode review - click link below "The supplement watch" "team consists of a growing network of scientists, physiologists, nutritionists and other health professionals dedicated to educating people about the pros and
cons of dietary supplementation" - seems like a creditable source?


http://www.supplementwatch.com/reviews/doc.asp?docId=2420&templateId=101&categoryId=206&categoryName=Sports

[Bisonserve]

I've been on Shock Therapy and Storm by Universal Nutrition for the last month and so far I love these products. These supplements really enhance my workouts and I get the most bang for the buck. Awesome pumps! I've taken BSN's NO-Xplode, Cellmass and Nitrix for a long time, but not as potent as the Shock Therapy/Storm stack.


Current supplementation:

Shock Therapy by Universal Nutrition
Storm by Universal Nutrition
Leviathan by Palo Alto Labs
Met-Max by Optimum Nutrition

[soapmaker77]

im currently using vasoexplode by scivation and its awesome. i was dissapointed when i found out it only had 20 servings though. if you dont care about money id recommend it. also, labrada super charge and shock therapy were good

after vasoexplode im gonna try this stack

storm
primaforce b-alanine
supp direct citrulline
maybe some higher power arg

[RobNyc]

I'm currently also using NO-Xplode. but I'm not going to stick to caffeine.
They are very professional, but I have to move away from Caffeine :).

I'm going to go with ControlledLabs after this is done

[Warneckutz]

I'm currently also using NO-Xplode. but I'm not going to stick to caffeine.
They are very professional, but I have to move away from Caffeine :).

I'm going to go with ControlledLabs after this is done

I made the jump from NO-Xplode to White Flood and I think you'll see and feel a difference between the two. I think the effects of WF last a bit longer then NO-Xplode.

Good Luck with it!

[Fromendwell]

My first ever dealings with Nitric was Gasparis Superpump 250. By the time I am driving to the gym I am psyched. My focus is up when Im working out, vascularity, pumps you name it. I love the taste of this stuff too, but the only problem is how quick it goes for the price. After taking 3 scoops before a hard workouts I run through the stuff like its nothing. Overall I love the product.

[tharealebba]

what do you guys think about NO Vapor?

[robfromsc]

My first ever dealings with Nitric was Gasparis Superpump 250. By the time I am driving to the gym I am psyched. My focus is up when Im working out, vascularity, pumps you name it. I love the taste of this stuff too, but the only problem is how quick it goes for the price. After taking 3 scoops before a hard workouts I run through the stuff like its nothing. Overall I love the product.

I agree superpump 250 took me to diffrent levels after my first use... i only take 1.5 to 2 scoops per workout and by the time i step into the gym im ready to go to work..

[CLARK331]

Eh...I was just comparing it to my Nitrix.

Your Nitrix kicked in the first day????

Todays my day 13 on it. And ive barely seen or felt much?

[jrs0343]

what do you guys think about NO Vapor?

I have tried quite a few NO products (working at GNC) so of course i had to try out the Vapor. I noticed good strength gains overall (about 30 pounds on bench) and had quite a bit more endurance. the pump on it isn't too bad, but i'd have to say i saw a better one with Superpump 250 (which i can't exactly rate on strength gains since i borrowed a dose from a coworker). it doesn't give near the energy kick of NO-Xplode (its only got 117 mg of caffeine in it and no b vitamins) but overall it is a pretty good product, definately worth tryin (especially if you catch it on sale for around 45)/

[mr.left hook]

just bought a tub of no explode seems some people like it some don't now i used arnge krush and this stuff work's great .want to know if no explode is as good anyone TRIED THIS ?

[amberlynn72]

Ok I just bought this today and it made me feel really weird ..I did my leg workout today and I kinda felt like jelly.. I struggled to exceed my workout from last week..hmmm is this the explode?? anyone else had this??