Best Overall Nitric Oxide (NO) Product?

[Captain Sagara]

You guys use 3 scoops of No-Xplode?'I only use one,and it's good to go,it's too expensive to use 3 scoops everyday...Why 3 scoops anyway?they really only recomend 1...

[Borup]

try 3 scoops and you will see why.. If one is enogh for you.. Good for you!!! But many adjust to it.

[Captain Sagara]

with 3 scoops,in 2 weeks the bottle is empty..

[anthony_b]

Hey guys, I've noticed that I've been getting more leg cramps at night after I started with NO-Xplode. Is this normal ?

[evo23]

Hey guys, I've noticed that I've been getting more leg cramps at night after I started with NO-Xplode. Is this normal ?

no xplode hands down its amazing and i've been on it for 2 weeks and had no leg cramps

[uhockey]

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The feedback is no lie and the free shirt doesn't hurt the deal at all. I'm really starting to like NO-Limits + Basic Cuts as a preworkout stack.

[V.H.9.8.4.]

I am 14 years old and was wondering if Nitric Oxide was safe for me. If not what is a good alternative? Thanks.

[Mo34Hockey]

if your getting leg cramps from any type of an NO or creatine product (NO-Xplode had a lil creatine in to to if i'm not mistaken) it means ur not drinking enough water.

[uhockey]

I am 14 years old and was wondering if Nitric Oxide was safe for me. If not what is a good alternative? Thanks.

No.

Chicken? Oatmeal? Lifting well, sleeping well, eating well, and doing well in school?

Perhaps a prayer and multivitamin......it worked for Hulk Hogan!

[pjmartini51]

I am 14 years old and was wondering if Nitric Oxide was safe for me. If not what is a good alternative? Thanks.

wait til your about 16, i took NO explode when i was 16 and it worked well but for your age just eat a lot, buy some Whey Protein and some Glutamine and thats all you'll need for a few years

[LiftsHeavy31]

BSN NO-Explode hands down. It gives me insane pumps and strength. Not to mention focus and motivation to work out. I especially love it during chest and back workout days.
I like the delivery system. I feel it within twenty minutes. I can lift much heavier weight versus when I do not use it. It is especially helpful after taking the weekend off and I need a kick start to begin my weekly workout cycle. The mind body connection is definitely there with NO-Explode!

[Sldgehmr]

I am 14 years old and was wondering if Nitric Oxide was safe for me. If not what is a good alternative? Thanks.


No.

Chicken? Oatmeal? Lifting well, sleeping well, eating well, and doing well in school?

Perhaps a prayer and multivitamin......it worked for Hulk Hogan!

Or a good anti-oxidant. Dont worry about whatthe magazines say. Just work on being consitant with your training and your diet. By the time you are 18 youll have been doing those 2 things for so long adding in a supp here and there will have the desired effect. Eating and training will be second nature by that point.

[NoobyBuilder]

the best NO out there is hands down: SuperPump 250. This stuff is like a miracle. Strength and size sky rocket after every use and workout. I compared it to all other NO out there as well. I read alot about all of them and none seem capable of SuperPump 250 results.

i was an NOxplode (bsn) fan, but then i wanted to "try" something else....

i was using 3 scoops of NOxplode every training day, i tried 1 scoop (to asses tolerance) of superpump250 and its FAR better then any 3 scoops of NO Xplode...

[dvsness]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2579151

[SMC90]

superpump250 is great gives amazing pumps and im really focused in the gym. I find it much more affective then No xplode. Has anyone tried xpand? hows does it compare to No xplode or sp250?

[scorpio68]

I have tried Expand. It worked pretty good for me. I did feel the pump.

Has anyone tried ****'s WTF Pumped?

[Welchman]

I've been using NO-Xplode for a while now and really like it. However, I would like to hear some more about this "superpump". Muscletech, no? I'm always looking for something better. And changing supplements keeps your body guessing, which stimulates growth.

[stevothedevo]

The fact is, there is no science supporting any of the claims made for so-called nitric oxide supplements. There is no science showing they have any effect on nitric oxide levels and certainly no science showing in effects on muscle growth or increased performance.

Ask yourself why there is no research to support these companies? wild claims. The simple answer is that research is expensive, make believe products are not. Research provides evidence, fraudulent supplement marketing only delivers hype. It?s far more financially rewarding to sell hype than to produce effective supplements backed by science.

I don?t know where the marketers obtained their literature on nitric oxide. It looks like they are using the same journals as the companies selling Myostatin inhibitors ? Alice in Wonderland. Although nitric oxide acts as a cell-to-cell communicator for certain metabolic functions, muscle growth is not one of them. After a review of the available literature I cannot find any research that remotely indicates increasing nitric oxide levels plays a part in increasing protein synthesis, contractile strength or any other biochemical pathway that may lead to increases in muscle mass.



Bottom line, money spent on these products is money flushed down the toilet.


by Paul Cribb, B.H.Sci HMS
AST Director of Research


Read the Real Science


1. Nathan C. Nitric oxide as a secretory product of mammalian cells. FASEB J 1992 6(12):3051-64.

2. Mayer B; Hemmens B. Biosynthesis and action of nitric oxide in mammalian cells. Trends Biochem Sci 1997 22(12):477-81.

3. Janabi N; Chabrier S; Tardieu M. Endogenous nitric oxide activates prostaglandin F2 alpha production in human microglial cells but not in astrocytes: a study of interactions between eicosanoids, nitric oxide, and superoxide anion (O2-) regulatory pathways. J Immunol 1996 1;157(5):2129-35.

4. Esposito C; Cozzolino A; Porta R; Mariniello L; Buommino E; Morelli F; Metafora V; Metafora S. Protein SV-IV promotes nitric oxide production not associated with apoptosis in murine macrophages. Eur J Cell Biol 2002 81(4):185-96.

5. Eckmann L; Laurent F; Langford TD; Hetsko ML; Smith JR; Kagnoff MF; Gillin FD. Nitric oxide production by human intestinal epithelial cells and competition for arginine as potential determinants of host defense against the lumen-dwelling pathogen Giardia lamblia. J Immunol 2000 1;164(3):1478-87.

6. Kelly RA; Smith TW. Nitric oxide and nitrovasodilators: similarities, differences, and interactions. Am J Cardiol 1996 30;77(13):2C-7C.

7. Stryer L. Biochemistry 4th Ed. Freeman & Co. 1997.


http://www.ast-ss.com/articles/article.asp?AID=117

[negativecold]

I have been using Pump Tech for about 2 and a half months. It really got me going til recently. It seems I don't get as much out of it anymore and it takes longer for it to start working. Just got my NaNo Vapor in. Will start on it on Monday.

[stevothedevo]

The fact is, there is no science supporting any of the claims made for so-called nitric oxide supplements. There is no science showing they have any effect on nitric oxide levels and certainly no science showing in effects on muscle growth or increased performance.

Ask yourself why there is no research to support these companies? wild claims. The simple answer is that research is expensive, make believe products are not. Research provides evidence, fraudulent supplement marketing only delivers hype. It?s far more financially rewarding to sell hype than to produce effective supplements backed by science.

I don?t know where the marketers obtained their literature on nitric oxide. It looks like they are using the same journals as the companies selling Myostatin inhibitors ? Alice in Wonderland. Although nitric oxide acts as a cell-to-cell communicator for certain metabolic functions, muscle growth is not one of them. After a review of the available literature I cannot find any research that remotely indicates increasing nitric oxide levels plays a part in increasing protein synthesis, contractile strength or any other biochemical pathway that may lead to increases in muscle mass.



Bottom line, money spent on these products is money flushed down the toilet.


by Paul Cribb, B.H.Sci HMS
AST Director of Research


Read the Real Science


1. Nathan C. Nitric oxide as a secretory product of mammalian cells. FASEB J 1992 6(12):3051-64.

2. Mayer B; Hemmens B. Biosynthesis and action of nitric oxide in mammalian cells. Trends Biochem Sci 1997 22(12):477-81.

3. Janabi N; Chabrier S; Tardieu M. Endogenous nitric oxide activates prostaglandin F2 alpha production in human microglial cells but not in astrocytes: a study of interactions between eicosanoids, nitric oxide, and superoxide anion (O2-) regulatory pathways. J Immunol 1996 1;157(5):2129-35.

4. Esposito C; Cozzolino A; Porta R; Mariniello L; Buommino E; Morelli F; Metafora V; Metafora S. Protein SV-IV promotes nitric oxide production not associated with apoptosis in murine macrophages. Eur J Cell Biol 2002 81(4):185-96.

5. Eckmann L; Laurent F; Langford TD; Hetsko ML; Smith JR; Kagnoff MF; Gillin FD. Nitric oxide production by human intestinal epithelial cells and competition for arginine as potential determinants of host defense against the lumen-dwelling pathogen Giardia lamblia. J Immunol 2000 1;164(3):1478-87.

6. Kelly RA; Smith TW. Nitric oxide and nitrovasodilators: similarities, differences, and interactions. Am J Cardiol 1996 30;77(13):2C-7C.

7. Stryer L. Biochemistry 4th Ed. Freeman & Co. 1997.


http://www.ast-ss.com/articles/article.asp?AID=117

Any comments / opinions on why ALL the research available debunks this product?

[buellseye]

I have been using Pump Tech for about 2 and a half months. It really got me going til recently. It seems I don't get as much out of it anymore and it takes longer for it to start working. Just got my NaNo Vapor in. Will start on it on Monday.

i ve been using pump tech 4 a year and a half and your right it is as effective as it was when i started but its still gives me what i need (plus i get it for next to nothing) . I wanted to start the nano but one day i noticed the pump tech pills explode if left out just like nano does. and they say in the ads that that is what makes them the new and improved no product. it might just be the same sh@t!!!

[stevothedevo]

2272 posts in this thread.

Good to see that people don't let the truth stand in the way of a good story.


It is as inane and relevant as arguing about the best beer or cigarette brand - they all are virtually the same, contain nuances of the same ingredient and adevertisers whip up shades of differences, add the words 'improved' etc to bolster sales or coax you to change....geeze are you REALLY that gullible?

[TitaniumULTD]

I've tried EAS's Nitron 5, a generic AAKG booster, and now SuperPump250. This is what I've noticed:

Nitron 5: 30 mins after dose, I HAD to go lift something. I would physically turn red until I would start lifting, and the strength was a great increase. Pump increased slightly.

Generic: Hardly noticed. Very little difference at all.

Superpump: 30 minutes after dose, I'm hyped and full of energy. Pump is average, maybe slightly over non-supplemented n/o. BUT results, day after day, are amazing. I had hit a plateau during cut up, and this broke that plateau and continues to build muscle as I cut.

[kiko11]

No xplode...i like it...some do, some dont, but i do haha

[Banana-]

NoXplode.. I love it! :D
the best product there is imo, additional to creatine and whey ofcourse.
I do suggest the 6-8 weeks on, and then at least 4 weeks off.

[RozeyLG44]

Brand new by MuscleTech, naNO Vapor is by far best pre-workout supplement around. I have used Gakic, naNOx9, no-Xplode, and L-arganine/ornithine, but nothing has compared to the results of naNO Vapor. no-xplode is great for the first tub but after that the effects, at least for me went away. I'm on tub three or naNO Vapor and the effects seem to get stronger each time, maybe its just my mind playing tricks, but I would spend my money on naNO vapor any day of the week over BSN after seeing the effects.

[Fcivit45]

NO explode cannot hold a candle to naNO Vapor ... Nano Vapor is far and away the best

[boyscouT]

The NO + Energy complex in Animal Pump worked great for me.

[ossizen]

NO Monster stacked with Zeus works great for me. I'll find out how those two stacked with Fubar will do...

[NoobyBuilder]

2272 posts in this thread.

Good to see that people don't let the truth stand in the way of a good story.


It is as inane and relevant as arguing about the best beer or cigarette brand - they all are virtually the same, contain nuances of the same ingredient and adevertisers whip up shades of differences, add the words 'improved' etc to bolster sales or coax you to change....geeze are you REALLY that gullible?

i dont need science to know if a supplement works or not, yeah its great sometimes but not most the time. Truth is science didn't use ME for their research and ME is different then YOU. and i know the the Energy affects and pump i see is different because i know how MY body feels. and No xplode gave me the focus and energy i wanted for workouts. Superpump250 finally added that pump i wanted and i can FEEL it. yet both products claim the same thing. Only one gave MY BODY the feeling ....

everyone is different and if you dont like "nitric oxide" products..then dont buy them.

I for one like them. Just as much as i like my protein powders and my creatine.
even if its just the caffeine in NO products. so be it. i dont like coffee. but these kinds of products give me what I want.

Sp250 is still my fav.

[JDRebel]

im taking NO-Xplode and it seems to be working really well for me and im thinking of adding Nitrix to the mix but can anyone tell me what they get out of Nitrix or is it basically the same thing as no-xplode in pill form??

and is it best to take whey protein before my workouts or right after my workouts?

[ericperk]

I like me some superpump 250, but just bought some animal pump took it today and it is good also but hard to tell which i like better so far. Guess I have to take it for about a week then try superpump again to see which is better any body have any suggestions or opinions on which is the better product of the two.

[buellseye]

2272 posts in this thread.

Good to see that people don't let the truth stand in the way of a good story.


It is as inane and relevant as arguing about the best beer or cigarette brand - they all are virtually the same, contain nuances of the same ingredient and adevertisers whip up shades of differences, add the words 'improved' etc to bolster sales or coax you to change....geeze are you REALLY that gullible?

looks like your #2273 big guy

[unassailable]

but I will try that Super Pump 250 stuff.

[kem1139]

2272 posts in this thread.

Good to see that people don't let the truth stand in the way of a good story.


It is as inane and relevant as arguing about the best beer or cigarette brand - they all are virtually the same, contain nuances of the same ingredient and adevertisers whip up shades of differences, add the words 'improved' etc to bolster sales or coax you to change....geeze are you REALLY that gullible?

I think the post was suppose to be about "The Best Nitric Oxide (NO) Product" (in your opinion) so if you don't like them and don't use them then read another thread...... I would have to say that the thousands and thousands of athletes and people who have taken them and say they notice effects from Nitric Oxide, Well thats all the "Supporting Science" I need to hear!

BUT of course "Science" has never been wrong has it?

[stevothedevo]

I think the post was suppose to be about "The Best Nitric Oxide (NO) Product" (in your opinion) so if you don't like them and don't use them then read another thread...... I would have to say that the thousands and thousands of athletes and people who have taken them and say they notice effects from Nitric Oxide, Well thats all the "Supporting Science" I need to hear!

BUT of course "Science" has never been wrong has it?


Supp company press releases

Verses



Arginine blood flow stimulators ("nitric-oxide" or "NO2" supplements) have been shown to increase vasodilation, but only in unfed people receiving enormous doses through an IV.

? Oral arginine supplementation doesn't affect blood flow.

? A dose as low as 10 grams has been associated with gastric upset when consumed orally. This dose has no significant effect on glycogen storage, even if it didn't cause diarrhea.

? Time release arginine is supposed to lead to a "perpetual pump" effect. New studies have shown this not to be the case.

? NO2 was shown to have no effect compared to a placebo on body composition or muscle strength.

? It's not possible for us to consume high enough levels of arginine to effectively increase nitric oxide levels.

? Copycat NO2 products are no better than the original supplement. In fact, those that contain glycocyamine should be avoided because of potential health concerns.

? If you think these products work for you, then you'd better look into the placebo effect.

? Arginine might temporarily elevate growth hormone levels, but only if you're able to take unrealistic doses. There's little evidence to support that this short term increase in GH would do anything for your physique anyway.

? In one study, arginine aspartate was shown to increase prolactin by an average of 75%. Prolactin is associated with decreased Testosterone levels.

? Five grams of arginine consumed during resistance exercise was shown to decrease normal exercise-induced GH output.

? The positive benefits of oral arginine supplementation can only be achieved through doses higher than the human body can handle. And most (but not all) of this effect is mediated by insulin. So if you want to have blood flow increases equivalent to a huge IV arginine infusion, just manipulate insulin through other means


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I know what I'll save money not buying. And yes, I've tried NO products. Naturally they did zero and that's when I started reading up on it. I found not only DON'T they work, the problem is that they CANNOT work.

[Matt C]

I've heard of a few NO products all getting good reviews, but the one I will most likely try is BSN NO-XPLODE:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bsnnoxplodereview.html

Although I'm not sure what the effectiveness is for actually gaining mass, but the effect it has been known to have on pumps would make it worth it to try. To me, a good pump can make a workout.

[Feighner]

Personally I have tried a lot of NO2 products....MRI NO2, NO-Xplode, & MHP TRAC and all were good and had positive results but none can compare to
SuperPump250 by Gaspari Nutrition....it gives me a HUGE energy boost and my vascularity goes crazy and it helps me recover....it can be expensive but if you look on the internet you can find it for 25 bucks minus S&H.

[woofman81]

Personally I have tried a lot of NO2 products....MRI NO2, NO-Xplode, & MHP TRAC and all were good and had positive results but none can compare to
SuperPump250 by Gaspari Nutrition....it gives me a HUGE energy boost and my vascularity goes crazy and it helps me recover....it can be expensive but if you look on the internet you can find it for 25 bucks minus S&H.

show me what website has it for that low?

[RobNyc]

So I'm looking to buy my stack ASAP..

For preworkout guess the BSN No-Xplode or SuperPump by Gaspari are to choose

[Db88]

what about this. NO Shotgun

http://store.sourcestudios.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=VPX&Product_Code=0087&Category_Code=PPW

[Malbolgia]

WOW! It's been quite some time and this post is still going strong. Well in the last year since I posted at the beginning of this thread, I've used several other "NEW" or "Better" products and keep going back to BSN's Nitrix.

I was at work one day and two guys came in and I helped them out. One was wearing a BSN polo shirt and so I struck up a conversation about BSN. Turns out one of the guys was Scott James, Vice President of BSN. I told him about my successes with several of their products and he sent the other guy out to the car. He came back in with a "NO-Explode" T-shirt, two shaker bottles with two scoops in each of Lean Dessert (different flavors) and a few single serving packets of NO-Xplode. Not a bad day at work!

Keep in mind that NO-Xplode and Nitrix are two different products. NO-Xpolode should be used more for a pre-workout energy supplement that puts you into "GOD MODE" in the gym. It only contains 2-3 grams of NO and 3-5 grams of creatine in it (if I remember correctly). Nitrix on the other hand is straight NO, and if you're looking for a NO product, give it a try!

[RobNyc]

what about this. NO Shotgun

http://store.sourcestudios.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=VPX&Product_Code=0087&Category_Code=PPW

rip off?

[chemystery]

read a bit about agmatine, anyone tried it yet? im really interested.. ive been using NO products for about 3months and love the results from what ive read this stuff should deliver the same kind of results if not better, just looking for a personal use story, not science that i dont understand too much...

[Db88]

rip off?

just wondering why u would say its a rip, i dont use it but i read about it in a magazine, seemed interesting.

[RobNyc]

just wondering why u would say its a rip, i dont use it but i read about it in a magazine, seemed interesting.

look at the price tag ..

[psych]

look at the price tag ..

shotgun is WAY better than no-xplode
you just gotta find a good place that sells it cheap
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/no.html

[RobNyc]

shotgun is WAY better than no-xplode
you just gotta find a good place that sells it cheap
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/no.html

Shotgun $45 .. 1 scoop - 30 servings .. doesnt say to take it 30mins or whatever before workout though

no-xplode $39 .1-3scoops - 40 servings - 1.81lbs instructions are there

SuperPump$39 2-3 scoops 40 servings 800grams

they're about the same but shotgun becomes more expensive .. and most ppl here have mentioned noxplode i dont know

[JDRebel]

has anyone ever tried Cell Tech and if you have what are your opinions on the product.

[uhockey]

NO-Limits, no doubt about it.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2654141

[depo12]

has anyone ever tried Cell Tech and if you have what are your opinions on the product.

I'm also interested in the results of using cell-tech...They hype it up so much...does it really work??

[Dropd@Birth]

Shotgun $45 .. 1 scoop - 30 servings .. doesnt say to take it 30mins or whatever before workout though

no-xplode $39 .1-3scoops - 40 servings - 1.81lbs instructions are there

SuperPump$39 2-3 scoops 40 servings 800grams

they're about the same but shotgun becomes more expensive .. and most ppl here have mentioned noxplode i dont know

I just finished NO- shotgun...got it from mass nutrition with shipping it was about $38.

The only thing I can say is 1. It works 2. it only comes in one flavor and the flavor get Monotonous. but it DOES work...I personnaly am looking to get away from all the drink NOs just because they make me burp like a mother in the gym....but honestly after tons of reviews the pills just don't seem to offer the effectiveness I am looking for. I'm still a n00b, so trying to learn from other's buying mistakes.

Thus far I have tried
2xNO-Explode - it worked well for about 4 weeks, then it was like my body got used to it and I had to up the scoops

SuperPump - Better than No-Explode I would say, and the orange wasn't bad just made me beltch to much

No-Shotgun - I put it there with SuperPump, except the "unique" flavor started to get to me at the end. AND although the overall price is more like Speedy said you are only using a MAX 1.5 scoops.

[tryn2getswole]

def no-shotgun i just finished my bottle last week and i loved the pump it gave me...the flavor does get retched after a month or 2

[RobNyc]

I just finished NO- shotgun...got it from mass nutrition with shipping it was about $38.

The only thing I can say is 1. It works 2. it only comes in one flavor and the flavor get Monotonous. but it DOES work...I personnaly am looking to get away from all the drink NOs just because they make me burp like a mother in the gym....but honestly after tons of reviews the pills just don't seem to offer the effectiveness I am looking for. I'm still a n00b, so trying to learn from other's buying mistakes.

Thus far I have tried
2xNO-Explode - it worked well for about 4 weeks, then it was like my body got used to it and I had to up the scoops

SuperPump - Better than No-Explode I would say, and the orange wasn't bad just made me beltch to much

No-Shotgun - I put it there with SuperPump, except the "unique" flavor started to get to me at the end. AND although the overall price is more like Speedy said you are only using a MAX 1.5 scoops.


Thanks, i will avoid BSN probably then.. and probably try the Controlled Labs stuff. I'm just going to do like you and learn from other's buying mistakes or experience based on the reviews.. I do think 1-2scoops for a product is generally the best way nothing more than that. I am noob also



def no-shotgun i just finished my bottle last week and i loved the pump it gave me...the flavor does get retched after a month or 2

I am very picky with stuff, #1 I cant swallow pills #2 Taste kinda likes to hurt me faster than anyone, im not talkin about taste like candy, but taste has to be manageable not like the CEE taste I been hearing

[suckamc]

Good for StevetheDevo for pointing out the truth about this stuff.

As a guy on another forum said: "The best way to experience results with NO is to read the advertising for NO products. That greatly enhances the placebo effect."

To be sure, it's not all placebo.... there's some caffeine and stuff involved. But there's definitely no evidence saying that the extra pump is helpful for anything at all (and as StevetheDevo pointed out, there's plenty of evidence that says that it does NOTHING).

[Dj Pimpsta]

nitrix by far!! i was prev using u.s.n.'s alpha nitrix stack 2. it's not too bad but since ive started using nitrix, ive noticed way bigger pumps compared to anything else.

[uhockey]

NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/product_writeups/nolimits.pdf

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

The Logs:

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2054911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2117311

[neutrolizr]

But there's definitely no evidence saying that the extra pump is helpful for anything at all (and as StevetheDevo pointed out, there's plenty of evidence that says that it does NOTHING).

The bigger the pump, the more stress has been put on the muscle.

The more stress on the muscle the greater the trauma.

The greater the trauma, the bigger the increase in size from healing.

Pump is everything, and it looks damn good.

Ive used Trac Extreme, NITRIX and NO Xplode, oh and SuperPump250.

Trac was my favorite till I tried NO Shotgun. I thought superpump was good, but i like a creatine NO2 mix...

Everyone is different and reacts differently to products, so its all just opinion anyway.

[suckamc]

Okay, N.O. believers, here ya go:

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=556124

[neutrolizr]

Okay, N.O. believers, here ya go:

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=556124

So you come on with your first post ever to proclaim what has previously been acknowledged as science and factual by quoting ONE web site source, that was written by, as the article says....

"About the Author

David J. Barr is a Doctoral <b>student </b>

I'm not saying it CANT be true, but I wouldn't hold much belief in one website and one students opinions.

I love people who push their crap on everyone else.

So this makes you an expert?

Hmmmm...ive taken this stuff for awhile. Have you? And my stomach never had a problem as described by the article for those TEN test subjects.

Raise your hand please if you've used NO and had no stomach problems! Im sure it would be more than ten.

What are you PHISHING for dude.

Here's some science for ya
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=573903

No more responses to you. Read my signature, thats for folks like you.

[psych]

So you come on with your first post ever to proclaim what has previously been acknowledged as science and factual by quoting ONE web site source, that was written by, as the article says....

"About the Author

David J. Barr is a Doctoral <b>student </b>

I'm not saying it CANT be true, but I wouldn't hold much belief in one website and one students opinions.

I love people who push their crap on everyone else.

So this makes you an expert?

Hmmmm...ive taken this stuff for awhile. Have you? And my stomach never had a problem as described by the article for those TEN test subjects.

Raise your hand please if you've used NO and had no stomach problems! Im sure it would be more than ten.

What are you PHISHING for dude.

Here's some science for ya
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=573903

No more responses to you. Read my signature, thats for folks like you.

have used different NO products and only time i got stomach problems was when taking plain L-arginine as opposed to arginine akg

[Lowerthefever]

That superpump 250 is a fortune.. $95 for 820 grams :eek:

[hotlatin916]

I have been taking NO2 by MRI and have not had any problems

[uhockey]

I have been taking NO2 by MRI and have not had any problems

Lighter wallet syndrome? ;)

[ossizen]

NO Monster stacked with Zeus works great for me. I'll find out how those two stacked with Fubar will do...
These three stacked together work very well for me thus far.

[RobNyc]

I'm going to look into the Shotgun then.. But that monotonous taste is i like bad or just meaning theres only 1 taste ?

Also, I'm not a caps guy so I can only get powder supps.

btw

Signs of deficiency include physical weakness and extreme fatigue. Most "nitric oxide" supplements contain the amino acid Arginine-alpha-keto-glutarate.

So NO is dangerous

[JACK07]

Im taking no shotgun love the pump!

[JACK07]

I'm going to look into the Shotgun then.. But that monotonous taste is i like bad or just meaning theres only 1 taste ?

Also, I'm not a caps guy so I can only get powder supps.

btw

Signs of deficiency include physical weakness and extreme fatigue. Most "nitric oxide" supplements contain the amino acid Arginine-alpha-keto-glutarate.

So NO is dangerous
The taste is bad but the best thing to take it with is grapefruit juice i have went through 3 of the no shotguns already and i found the grapefruit juice really helps!

[JACK07]

Ive used No-xplode, Supercharge, superpump250 No3 overload and Noshotgun. I liked the pump i recieved from no-xplode but it wasnt worth the crash afterwards doing 3 scoops. Supercharge worked REALLY good but wore off after 2 bottles, superpump made me fart alot while in the gym, no3 overload was kickass but the pills took a little longer to take effect, No-shotgun was by far the best, sick pumps good strength gain from it but damn that taste was bad i ended mixing it up with a small amout of minute maid fruit punch and its not as bad anymore. Nitrix and Redcell both worked well also but 9 pills a day wasnt cutting it anymore.

Would totally agree try it with grapefruit juice sounds gross but the combination aint that bad!

[uhockey]

NO-Limits, no doubt about it.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2654141

^^

[jonflesh]

^^

I've been using superpump250 for a while now i think its a very good product. Although i'm def looking forward to finishing it, so i can try no-limits, it looks great.

[uhockey]

I've been using superpump250 for a while now i think its a very good product. Although i'm def looking forward to finishing it, so i can try no-limits, it looks great.

Excellent. Definitely let us know what you think.

[stoptherun51]

NO Xplode becasue of the energy kick

[Maxfits202]

White Flood cause it has a better kick than no explode

[ceno]

sorry to say...NO explode didnt do anything for me...

maybe its because I've been already talking 5g of arginine daily.....plus creatine.....

10 bucks for 90 capsules..same results......cant beat that :)

[uhockey]

sorry to say...NO explode didnt do anything for me...

maybe its because I've been already talking 5g of arginine daily.....plus creatine.....

10 bucks for 90 capsules..same results......cant beat that :)

You can get NO-Limits for $20 on some sites, with a free shirt.......and it blows bulk Arg/Orn out of the water.

[turbo271]

you guys gotta try this new NANO vapor from MT. It is the **** Best NO i've ever taken and I've taken, Limits, NOwplode, Superpump, Supercharged, Nitrix, PumpTech, NO2, NOX2, and some more, I think. I cant remember all of them but i know i've taken a lot.
it's a little on the expensive side, but i found a place that sells it for $37.75. thats pretty good.

[JDRebel]

Im currently taking NoXplode and it does the trick and helps me with workouts and Im thinking of adding BSN Nitrix to the mix and want to know if anyone has any feedback from taking it or anything they think would be helpful for me. I dont want to waste my money on junk. Thanks

[RobNyc]

you guys gotta try this new NANO vapor from MT. It is the **** Best NO i've ever taken and I've taken, Limits, NOwplode, Superpump, Supercharged, Nitrix, PumpTech, NO2, NOX2, and some more, I think. I cant remember all of them but i know i've taken a lot.
it's a little on the expensive side, but i found a place that sells it for $37.75. thats pretty good.

tell me about it .. anything w/ MuscleTech i stay away from ..

I had CellTech and its all overpriced stuff.. lucky i got it for free

[JDRebel]

why didn't you like cell-tech...i heard it was pretty good stuff. Let me know what your experience with it was.




tell me about it .. anything w/ MuscleTech i stay away from ..

I had CellTech and its all overpriced stuff.. lucky i got it for free

[boman-06]

BSN N.O. XPLODE by far. i tried the Xyience NOX-CG3. it was trash, when i mixed it it left stringy crap in my drink and it tasted AWFUL. BSN 4 life!!!

[ThatArmyKid]

anyone who has taken animal pump did you get use to the eeffects fast? because i got built up a tollerance for No explode, and white flood i don't feel anything form those two no more

[uhockey]

NO-Limits, no doubt about it.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2654141

[vtaper]

Definitely Deca Stack by Nutrabolics. Huge pump, and they use a different delivery system, deconate which has proven to be faster than Ester delivery systems. Their AE2 in capslue form is great as well. Both are also less money than no-explode.

[firebeast]

the best NO out there is hands down: SuperPump 250. This stuff is like a miracle. Strength and size sky rocket after every use and workout. I compared it to all other NO out there as well. I read alot about all of them and none seem capable of SuperPump 250 results.

i have taken no xplode, superpump 250(which gave me and many others i know diarhea), and universal animal pump. though i have only been taking univesal for about a week it is a much better product than the others. there are no side effects of cramping or stomach bloating as with the others.

[jian11]

Although i don't ever respond to any stimulants, White Flood does give me alot of energy, focus, and pumps.. I used to take it every day and then i notice that after the first day i didnt feel anything anymore and i got worried that i just wasted my money.. But now i only use it a few times a week on my hardest workouts like back and shoulders, since i dont really need the extra energy during my other workouts.. Now its effectiveness stays GREAT and the tub is gonna last me alot longer.. so now it all works out for the best :-)

[sildojar]

no-xplode + nitrix

very good results with 1 month

[Chrisc0]

BSN N.O. Explode is definitely the best N.O. product I've used. The two other products I used (MT naNOx9 and Xyience NOX-CG3) had little to no effect compared to the huge pumps that I get from the N.O. Explode.

[RobNyc]

why didn't you like cell-tech...i heard it was pretty good stuff. Let me know what your experience with it was.

Anything from MT (MuscleTech) avoid as I was told plenty of times

#1 too much advertising to brainwash you
#2 will empty out your bank
#3 might work but others work better and cheaper/better

[increaser]

NO-Explode without question, I won't workout without it now.

[turbo271]

anyone who still says that NOxplode is the best definitly hasnt tried enough stuff out there yet.

Keep searching people.

[MNUlivi]

It would be a tight race between Blitz cycle and Shock Therapy. Blitz gave me a great pump that lasted all day. But i would have to go with shock therapy. not only are my pumps increadible, but i never get tired. I feel just as fresh on my first set and rep as i do on my last. Shock has also given significant strength gains as well to my later sets that i would usually be a little tired when i got to. Oh and by the way you can find over a months supply for around 25 bucks, you can't beat that.

[uhockey]

NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/product_writeups/nolimits.pdf

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

The Logs:

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234471
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2056601
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2146351
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2047931
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2097831
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2105761
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1809531
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2087001
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2065331
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1905951
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2089911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2054911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2117311

[RobNyc]

NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/product_writeups/nolimits.pdf

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

The Logs:

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234471
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2041991
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2056601
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2146351
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2047931
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2097831
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2105761
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1809531
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2087001
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2065331
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1905951
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2089911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2054911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2117311

too bad is not powder

[pharmdaddyd@hotmail.com]

maybe its just my body type but no-shotgun is the best hands down,i have tried no-xplode,supercharged,horsepower,and xpand but no-shotgun is the best.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

too bad is not powder

Is this more convenient for you?

[RobNyc]

Is this more convenient for you?

i dont take pills

[kush]

I agree, NO-Shotgun is a great product that is under the radar. It doesn't taste good, but between a guy who has tried NO-Xplode, and SP250, Shotgun trumps those by far.

[RobNyc]

I can say now WhiteFLood is freakin awesome

[BigNorwegian]

I've tried NO-Explode, NO-Shotgun, WhiteBlood and SP250.

NO-Explode: What most people don't understand is that NO-Explode has changed their ingredients; the NO-Explode today is not the same as from day one. The old NO-Explode was by far superior to the one today. With that being said, though it does taste good, I wouldn't waste my money on it again.

NO-Shotgun: Best pump, worst tasting of the four I've tried (I had Apple Cinnamion or Apple Pie, something along those lines) . Not terrible tasting at all, but it could use some work.

WhiteBlood: Only one of the four that is pill form. Decent results.

SP250: Best tasting (I've tried Orange which tastes like an Orange Creamsickle and Blue Rasberry which tastes like the Blue Rasberry War Heads), results just under that of NO-Shotgun.

[mass_gain_07]

Can anyone tell me if taking Animal Pump with BSN Nitrix would be a good combo. I tired NO-Xplod before and it gave me some strong headaches and gas, i tried dymatize xpand, and I'm just finishing superpump and size on. the superpump and size on have worked well, but im looking for the next step higher. i have become more toned and defined, but im looking to increase size a lot more than i have, which is not much. thanks for the help.

[mass_gain_07]

i did a search and saw most peopel stacked animal pump with superpump250, but i also saw a thread saying not to stack them together. can anyone clarify if its safe to stack them. if so, do you take both products 30 min prior to working out. thanks....im hopeless, i know

[Jimmy p]

NO-Explode works great. I never have a workout without it. Keeps me focused on the workout, but I am sure that there may be other things that work just as good, if not better, I just haven't tryed them out yet.

[palanilopez12]

has anyone tried nano vapor? I just wanted to get someone's opinion on it

[calreef18]

Going from No-xplode to shock therapy, will let everyone know results. No-xplode was great but started getting old after a couple weeks, i.e. not as much of an effect unless I upped dosage to 3 scoops.

[Gable08]

Well, in my opinion nano vapor from Muscletech is the best stuff I've tried. I am not gonna say it is the best out there because I haven't tried all the products that is out there. Anyways, I have tried NO Explode and did like it very well. I seen some good results and felt really good while I was takin it. After I ran out though I thought I would try somethin new. So I was in GNC and seen this Nano Vapor stuff and thought I would try it. Yes, the price was crazy like 70 dollars for a 2-3 week supply depending on how much you take, but evrythhing I buy at GNC is expensive. Anyways, the first dose I took of this stuff I could feel my body temp warm up, like feel my blood pumpin to my muscles. Yea, everyone says it is all in your head but I don't think feelin a burnin sensation through your muscles is in your head. But, I was about half way through my workout where I usaully start to get fatigued, and It serioulsy felt like I jus started workin out, and needed some more iron to pump. I have seen great results with this stuuf and have gotten more vascularity than I did with no explode. I know most of you out there hate muscletech, oh there overpriced, but shoot, it is by far the best pre-workout supplement I have ever taken. Yea, every body type isn't the same but any one out there lookin for more endurance, better pumps, and a overall better workout I am tellin you try this stuff!

[palanilopez12]

I know there are alot of nice no products out there and i have tried a few, GNC's nitro explosion which is actually really good, no-explode, sp250 and the another one that came in a purple container but i forgot the name of it. And there are alot of new products out there but i was wondering how good no shotgun and nano vapor are and if you have any opinions on it from taking it or know someone that has taken it please let me know what kind of results they got

[allstarcdb]

Shock Therpay is more superior ingredient wise and also cheaper than No-Xplode. Anti-oxidants are included in Shock Therapy to keep your cells clean while opening up! Cant beat Shock Therapy!!!!!!

[buj77]

trac extreme was probably the best i tried..the pumps were crazy

[JackZ]

hi guys im new at this forum , i just wanted to know if i can join NO2 black , CE2 , PRONOS and ANATOR P70 or i should just take NO2 black , CE2 and PRONOS. my question might be stupid but plz let me know

[addy14]

A touch on the expensive side but I am happy with the result I'm getting. It is the only Nitric Oxide Supplement I've ever tried but I find it gives great pumps and gives your muscles a tight full look. My buddy that I work out with often exclaims that I seem to get stronger as my sets go on as opposed to getting tired. I recover extremely and am very rarely sore the morning after a work out. To try and extend my supply I only take a half dose on non-workout days. I got 180 caps. for about $115 but I was impatient and didn't shop around. The 250 sounds interesting and I think I might try that next since I'm almost out.

Peace

[animal.inside]

for a long time I was hyping Stone Dragon from Kemistry Labs. that product does indeed kick a lot of ass, but I am almost through my 2nd jug of Armageddon from Star Chem Labs and I freaking love it. it mixes well, and tastes better than most other things i have taken. give it a try!

[jackedplaya]

if you want to get legit truck-ass pumps jus take like 8 scoops no xplode on empty stomach before ur workout then drink about 2 bottles VPX redline....mad crazy **** onyl bad thing is no xplode runs out mad fast

[suspek24]

NO-Shotgun by VPX is by far the best nitric oxide out on the market. It has all the other arginines that every other NO product has plus protein, creatine, and caffeine, all things that make this product do what it is intended to do. BSN's bull**** product Xplode tastes great, no doubt about it, it's the best tasting, but as far as results, the only thing that has actually increased my amount of reps per set is Shotgun. I have also used Gaspari's Superpump and got good energy from it, but I haven't done much research on it.

[calreef18]

Comparing no-xplode and shock therapy, pumps are just as good with shock, xplode had more of a rush due to caffeine I think, and shock tastes worse lol, but not bad enough that it outweighs the cheaper cost. Xplode got old after 3 weeks or so, so we'll see how long the shock therapy goes before it isn't as effective.

[uhockey]

NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/product_writeups/nolimits.pdf

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

The Logs:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234361
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234471
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2041991
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2056601
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2146351
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2047931
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2097831
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2105761
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1809531
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2087001
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2065331
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1905951
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2089911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2054911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2117311

Logs speak louder than simple recommendations. I LOVE what people have had to say about NO-Limits.

[zkid002]

Has ayone tried NO2 Hemodilator? My bro has it in his cabinet, but kind of forgot about it since he temporarily stopped Workin Out due to his studies...But what do you guys think about this product? And for those of you that have used it or do use it, what exactly will it do for me/ my brother?..thanks, please answer.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/no2/no2.html

[qb0708]

NO-Shotgun by VPX is by far the best nitric oxide out on the market. It has all the other arginines that every other NO product has plus protein, creatine, and caffeine, all things that make this product do what it is intended to do. BSN's bull**** product Xplode tastes great, no doubt about it, it's the best tasting, but as far as results, the only thing that has actually increased my amount of reps per set is Shotgun. I have also used Gaspari's Superpump and got good energy from it, but I haven't done much research on it.

i agree there ive taken no explode, hyper shock, and no shotgun and i defiently liked no shotgun the best plus it is the cheapest and you only have to take one scoop which with the other to you take 1-2 scoops and really need 2 or even 3 with no explode to get a good pump or good energy, defeitnly would recommed no shotgun

[MidwestMonster]

Has anyone tried naNOVapor?

[plaskowski2002]

i know alot of you guys talk trash about star chem labs but i called them up to see if they had any samples and they did not. i ended up talking to the guy for a while and i decieded to give armageddon a try. i also got evolution X10. the guy was right about everything he said. best pumps ever and ive tried them all. i didnt think it could get any better than no-shotgun or super pump 250 but it did. i suggest you guys think about giving it a try. worked great for me. good luck!

[MeatHead92]

Has anyone tried naNOVapor?
I've tried Nano Vapor, NO-Xplode, and Nitrix and out of the three, the vapor was the best. As with most NO products you do have to up the dosage a bit as my body got used to it, which made it run out really fast and it is quite expensive. I hear this NO-Shotgun is supposed to be really good. i might give that a "shot" next.

[naught33]

yeah NO shotgun is crazy good..it tastes like crap tho, maybe u can find something good to mix it with to make the taste better but i just drank it w water and down the hatch, the quicker the better....but it gives u crazy energy and ull sweat a lot since it has the redline technology in it as well

[patshea098]

i have taken NO-Xplode and Nitrix and SuperPump 250 and ive liked superpump the most.

ive gotten the most out of it

[seminolesfan_07]

I used Nano Vapor liked it but wanted to try Superpump 250...On the 2nd day using superpump, I workouted my chest and I dont know if you've seen there ads in magazines but I sware like it says...about 30 mins. later it looked as I had almost doubled my chest size no joke. And it didn't go away and hour later still like that and I'm on the 5th day...UNBELIEVEBLE results

[pu12en12g]

Although i don't ever respond to any stimulants, White Flood does give me alot of energy, focus, and pumps.. I used to take it every day and then i notice that after the first day i didnt feel anything anymore and i got worried that i just wasted my money.. But now i only use it a few times a week on my hardest workouts like back and shoulders, since i dont really need the extra energy during my other workouts.. Now its effectiveness stays GREAT and the tub is gonna last me alot longer.. so now it all works out for the best :-)

Nice !

[pu12en12g]

White Flood cause it has a better kick than no explode

Thanks for the feedback ! :cool:

[pu12en12g]

After trying both: White Flood > NO Xplode

Good price too !!

[getemboi]

I had good results when I ran White Blood a while back, I plan on using it again.

[adm793]

As of now I am trying NO Shotgun, the energy is great, however the pump is just not there. I tried a sample pack of Animal Pump and had a great reaction to it. I may try it again after finishing the NO Shotgun, however I don't like the fact that I have to take it on a empty stomach. Its nearly impossible since I work out an hour after I wake and like to have something in my stomach.

I also like the idea of White Flood, so many choices, so little money. :)

[mug_1972]

well after three tubs of no explode, i had a lil extra cash and went with the muscletech nanovapor. the zero wait time is a little more like 15 minutes. the first dose was great even though i was tired and didnt feel like working out. took 1 and 1/2 scoops. i had some good energy kicking in, almost "psychotic" (did cpl extra reps and bout 10 extra pounds), even though the box came in the mail and the lid wasnt screwed on all the way, and wasnt sealed good. i bet there was "nanoparticulated" stuff everywhere that i couldnt see! lol.... bottom line so far... taste like bunch of vitamins (just chug it), decent pumps, great energy, has tons of ingredients ,too expensive

NO products i have had so far...
best tasting - no explode grape .. good energy, fair pump, good veins
worst tasting make ya vomit (no shotgun) ok product results taper too quickly
nanovapor - read above

[chato]

Just started using N.O.-XPLODE. In the ingredients, creatine in listed in acouple of different forms, but no specs on amounts. Anybody know the answer? Thanks, Chato

[DFA]

NO Shotgun i love. Im pretty sure im the only person who likes the taste in water haha.. great pumps and good sweat working out

[bunshun]

yeah NO shotgun is crazy good..it tastes like crap tho, maybe u can find something good to mix it with to make the taste better but i just drank it w water and down the hatch, the quicker the better....but it gives u crazy energy and ull sweat a lot since it has the redline technology in it as well



just started on no shotgun...had better, longer, harder workout than no explode...but it seriously tastes like cat piss. I can't over exagerate how bad it tastes, its the worst tasting suplement I've ever had.
But it so far works great, the pumps are pretty impressive and i didn't want to leave the gym.

[buffguy69]

I too took NO shotgun. I had a pretty good workout. After the workout, I went out, got fairly drunk and hooked up with two breezies. The same thing happened with my friend the night before. Two lesbians also asked me and my friend to make out in exchange for them making out, but we denied when they refused to make out with us. Suffice to say NO shotgun is great for hooking up with the ladies. I'm going to take some shotgun right now, and hpefully I'll get my dick sucked later on tonight.

[HSP10]

armageddon does look pretty damn good. I been wanting to try it myself. I know a few guys who tried it and they said the stuff was off the hook. I believe it from what I heard about it. Also heard it taste awesome too. Mr Aries or jingles will vouch for that.

Yeah I've tried Armageddon and it did give me a pretty good added boost to my workout, but for me, it was hard to stomach because I didn't really like the taste. However, just like NO-Shotgun, if you can stomach the drink, it is a really good product.

[Dirty77]

hooked on the NO2 Black. By far best NO product Ive tried. My recovery was nonexistant on it

[Dirty77]

just started on no shotgun...had better, longer, harder workout than no explode...but it seriously tastes like cat piss. I can't over exagerate how bad it tastes, its the worst tasting suplement I've ever had.
But it so far works great, the pumps are pretty impressive and i didn't want to leave the gym.

try the gakic powder. Havnt tried the NO shotgun yet (despite all the good things I heard about it) but I guarantee that gakic tastes far worse. My buddy had me try it and lost total interest in workin out cause
i felt like crap

[projectpat06]

Like ive said in the past, NO-Shotgun worked the best for me and ive tried everything it seems like...All the other stuff is the same idea but i think the shotgun has the newer, better science behind it and thats just the difference...

[suspek24]

just started on no shotgun...had better, longer, harder workout than no explode...but it seriously tastes like cat piss. I can't over exagerate how bad it tastes, its the worst tasting suplement I've ever had.
But it so far works great, the pumps are pretty impressive and i didn't want to leave the gym.

I completely agree, it works and tastes horrible, but if that's the only price to pay then I'm with it :-P try mixing it with gatorade, it makes it much more bareable

[hawofast]

Ive took N.O.-explode for the last 3mo's gained 15lbs and kept a high energy well useing it. when i get back on the supplement train after a month off i plan on trying sp250 and size on so lets see how that go's.

[le_soldat]

I'm on my second bottle of NaNO Vapor by MuscleTech. Great product. Amazing pump, adds endurance, and strength. Again, great product.

[uhockey]

Because results speak louder than simple "recommendations." :)


NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/product_writeups/nolimits.pdf

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

The Logs:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2234361
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2054911
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2117311

[sildojar]

Q: How much caffeine is in N.O.-Xplode?

A: Approximately 100 mg per scoop (about 1 cup of coffee, depending).

Q: How much creatine is in N.O.-Xplode?

A: Approximately 1 gram per scoop.

[Sldge]

Because results speak louder than simple "recommendations." :)

And pictures prove the results! These pics are taken in the middle of a workout, when Chuck was completely depleted. No carbs for over 2 weeks when this was taken, just NO Limits.

[Kruton]

yeah NO shotgun is crazy good..it tastes like crap tho, maybe u can find something good to mix it with to make the taste better but i just drank it w water and down the hatch, the quicker the better....but it gives u crazy energy and ull sweat a lot since it has the redline technology in it as well

Red Gatorade makes it taste way better. I've taken it a few times, but had to discontinue when it started to upset my stomach

[Fcivit45]

So I was just about done with my no explode (about 1.5 scoops left) when I started on Nano vapor ... then i had the brilliant idea of mixing the rest of the explode with a scoop of vapor ... UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! Had an AWESOME workout!!! (and it made the vapor taste half way decent too!)

[ccs77]

I currently take Six Star products because they are cheap and available at Wallmart. I take the Six Star protien powder, fruit punch creatine, and the Nitric Oxide Overdrive. I would like to try out the NO-explode product everyone is raving about for pre workout. Would I need to drop any of the exisiting suppliments I am currently taking?

Lastly, where can I find No Explode on shelves and how much is it? Also why do so many people say Nitric Oxide is junk? I just want big pumps and some viens to pop out like the rest of you big bastages. lol :)

[scruff_poc]

naNOx9 is kinda good not the best tho

[uhockey]

And pictures prove the results! These pics are taken in the middle of a workout, when Chuck was completely depleted. No carbs for over 2 weeks when this was taken, just NO Limits.

VERY impressive.

[chinozk]

I Like using no-explode. thats it.

[brooklynfitness]

I have always only use Protein shakes and creatine but I want to add NO (Nitric Oxide) but I will be honest its damn hard to figure out which one to use there are so many of them and you can not tell the fakes from the real ones and to ask for advice you [9 out of 10] get advise from some dude and/or gal who is pushing his/her supplement [muscle tech, EAS, Prolab, etc].

Take it easy on me, I am new to this forum

[Sldge]

I have always only use Protein shakes and creatine but I want to add NO (Nitric Oxide) but I will be honest its damn hard to figure out which one to use there are so many of them and you can not tell the fakes from the real ones and to ask for advice you [9 out of 10] get advise from some dude and/or gal who is pushing his/her supplement [muscle tech, EAS, Prolab, etc].

Take it easy on me, I am new to this forum

The main thing you should look at is do you want a real NO boosting product or a product that is more like a catch all of everything? A specific product for No boosting shouldnt have caff, creatine, green tea etc. It should just contain compounds that either boost NO or prolong the life of NO once it is boosted.

The catch all products have a ton of ingrediants but not an actual active amount of any of them. Consumers get caught up in what is on the list as opposed to how much of those compounds are actually in it and what dose they require to work effectively.

[suspek24]

The main thing you should look at is do you want a real NO boosting product or a product that is more like a catch all of everything? A specific product for No boosting shouldnt have caff, creatine, green tea etc. It should just contain compounds that either boost NO or prolong the life of NO once it is boosted.

The catch all products have a ton of ingrediants but not an actual active amount of any of them. Consumers get caught up in what is on the list as opposed to how much of those compounds are actually in it and what dose they require to work effectively.

If people just wanted to try to boost nitric oxide in their system they would just take arginine and several varying types. But the truth is arginine alone don't do ****, that's why you take supplements that have creatine, caffeine, green tea, etc. taking one thing with all the ingredients is better than taking 5 drinks with everything in it. Normally the companies add the ingredients to increase the effectivesness of the arginine. NO-Shotgun is hands down the best nitric oxide product on the market because it has 3 different types of creatine, and 16 BCAA's mixed with the most potent energy formula on the market, Redline.

[Frenchtickler]

Since I started training,Ive tried many creatines and no products.I've started with Weider's(rookie!)then I fell in love with the V-12 by San,but I was paying too much for it.I after was on Muscle stack from Precision,so so product ,no kick...Then Iwas suggested to take Crea-vol from MVP ,did the job but still no kick.The salesmen then talked to me about NO products,he sold me Superpump250,loved till I tried No-xplode ,damn did I get the kich of my life,I benched like never before,was focused ,I trained like a beast!But It's benn about a year I take No-xplode,and it's like my system got used to it,even if I stopped to take it for 2 months after a 8 week cycle,It doesn't give me the rush it before did(just like a girl after a couple of years!)So I'm looking for something else ,maybe White Flood or No shotgun,I not sure......

[projectpat06]

If people just wanted to try to boost nitric oxide in their system they would just take arginine and several varying types. But the truth is arginine alone don't do ****, that's why you take supplements that have creatine, caffeine, green tea, etc. taking one thing with all the ingredients is better than taking 5 drinks with everything in it. Normally the companies add the ingredients to increase the effectivesness of the arginine. NO-Shotgun is hands down the best nitric oxide product on the market because it has 3 different types of creatine, and 16 BCAA's mixed with the most potent energy formula on the market, Redline.

You make a good point, i didnt even know there was redline in shotgun but i guess it does the job very well hehe cus i love it

[alphaproject]

Someone said some dude was avoiding carbs for 2 weeks. How can you avoid ALL carbs. Impossible I say.

[uhockey]

Someone said some dude was avoiding carbs for 2 weeks. How can you avoid ALL carbs. Impossible I say.

You've clearly not seen people cutting for a contest......going under 35 carbs a day is possible.....albeit extremely unplesant. Imagine chicken breast, tuna, and red meat, plus perhaps some added fat, and 5 cups green veggies.

[vicjg]

I was taking N30 from MRI pre-workout. But I want to try an NO preworkout supplement, but I would like some feedback.

I am currently doing MadCow' SF 5x5, and all the products I see, feel like they would be most effective in higher reps ranges, is this accurate?

IS there a benefit of these supplements at rep ranges between 3-5. Would a particular brand/supplement work better than others in this range?

[gjohnson5]

Without a doubt Amplify02
http://agxsports.com/amplify.html

[Warhawk]

OK...Question on the noxplode. I have heard a couple recommendations on this. One, take 1-3 servings on workout day and 1 on non workouts. Another is don't take it on non workouts. What say you??

[alphaproject]

Well, under 35 maybe, but NONE....... No juice no nothing, doesn't even sound healthy to do.

Carbs make you happy too. Kinda seems sad everyone does that.

If no one did it, it'd be ok then.

I've used Dymatize Elite Xpand. But, I like Beta Alanine better. Just ordered some Beta-X from AST and True Mass.

I currently am using

Muscle Milk (Naturals) - rough taste
MPR SR Pro - chocolate - bleak taste
ON Whey - Vanilla Ice Cream - ok taste, but not as good as the Natural Vanilla.
True Mass - coming soon
Beta-X - coming soon

[Iceiktitan]

I have tried. Nxcare aka Nxlabs vasoxp, Bsn nitrix, and Sci-fit's kreation. They all did what they were intended to do which was to provide a little pump because of the blood flow and the caffeine to your workouts. I dropped the supplements because my bodyfat is low and I already get amazing pumps without them. Try one 200 mg caffeine pill and drink about 1 liter of water during your workouts. You will be amped for the workouts and won't crash unlike what a mixture of other ingredients in other supplements does to you!

[turbo271]

Since I started training,Ive tried many creatines and no products.I've started with Weider's(rookie!)then I fell in love with the V-12 by San,but I was paying too much for it.I after was on Muscle stack from Precision,so so product ,no kick...Then Iwas suggested to take Crea-vol from MVP ,did the job but still no kick.The salesmen then talked to me about NO products,he sold me Superpump250,loved till I tried No-xplode ,damn did I get the kich of my life,I benched like never before,was focused ,I trained like a beast!But It's benn about a year I take No-xplode,and it's like my system got used to it,even if I stopped to take it for 2 months after a 8 week cycle,It doesn't give me the rush it before did(just like a girl after a couple of years!)So I'm looking for something else ,maybe White Flood or No shotgun,I not sure......

Totally agree with the whole getting used to it thing. Since January I've taken in this order every month something different.
Jan: NO xplode
Feb: Supercharged
Mar: Super Pump 250
Apr: Shock Theraphy
May: NAno Vapor

So far NAno has definitly worked the best. I suggest everyone try it for at least 1 month.
For me NO xplode was the worst.

[coachS]

try no3 overload by CMI

[Son21387]

is there like a poll, that tells what's the runnerup and like possibly top 5 best NO supplements voted by people, I don't feel like reading 51 pages and trying to see which one is good and bad etc..

[lipmadeulook]

just finished no-explode (blue razz) and the taste was good, my stamina and focus was excellent. also huge plus -- no crash.

i am now on my 3rd day of superpump250. I did 2 scoops first two days and felt tough stomach cramps after my workout for a while. nothing im going to cry about but nothing i got my NO-explode. Focus and stamina do seem good and I have that boost which is probaly somewhat mental for me towards the mid-end of the w/o. However.. yesterday i got home after my w/o and **** myself on a fart attempt. So much for keeping it sexy....I did do 3 scoops instead of two but next time I am hoping for just some gas. Bottom line.. jury is still oout. I will move onto the next highly regarded product after no matter what. -- orange is pretty damn good btw.

[suspek24]

is there like a poll, that tells what's the runnerup and like possibly top 5 best NO supplements voted by people, I don't feel like reading 51 pages and trying to see which one is good and bad etc..

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2931561

But the polls don't give you information like reading through posts. All though it would be a lot easier to choose from a poll, that doesn't mean that the number 1 product is #1. You should try to do the research and compare the ingredients in all of the products, that will really tell you which is best. That's why I take NO-Shotgun by VPX.

[Nick_04]

K i just bought N.O Shotgun yesturday and i have to say it is 10x better than superpump. Just taking it once was nuts. The mental state that i was in was just plain crazy :)

[Frenchtickler]

OK...Question on the noxplode. I have heard a couple recommendations on this. One, take 1-3 servings on workout day and 1 on non workouts. Another is don't take it on non workouts. What say you??

When I use no-xplode,I usually take between 1 and 2 scoops on workout days,on non workout days I only take half a scoop,(just to say), when I wake up,in my opinion,It's good to keep giving your body just a small dose when you don't workout so it stays in your system.Your a big guy,so you could take 3 scoops before working out.

[RobNyc]

I just got mine today I love the taste its the best
but its so small :)

BUt when you use it everyday doesnt your body gets use to it and then it doesnt work?
I read somewhere is better to use it on workin days only, otherwise your body can get use to it faster and you might need to take time off from it

[shiznut123]

How does this nano vapor taste, any stomach problems?

[uhockey]

Totally agree with the whole getting used to it thing. Since January I've taken in this order every month something different.
Jan: NO xplode
Feb: Supercharged
Mar: Super Pump 250
Apr: Shock Theraphy
May: NAno Vapor

So far NAno has definitly worked the best. I suggest everyone try it for at least 1 month.
For me NO xplode was the worst.


Should give NO-Limits a shot for June. But it at the right places for $20, and get a free shirt.

[pu12en12g]

I'm looking for something else ,maybe White Flood or No shotgun


I also like the idea of White Flood, so many choices, so little money. :)

Free White FLOOD samples (while supplies last):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2553921

[suspek24]

I just got mine today I love the taste its the best
but its so small :)

BUt when you use it everyday doesnt your body gets use to it and then it doesnt work?
I read somewhere is better to use it on workin days only, otherwise your body can get use to it faster and you might need to take time off from it

I've heard in the past that you should cycle off of your creatine product, but the truth is that you don't have to. Take a quality product like NO-Shotgun by VPX for example, you're getting 3 different creatines, 16 BCAA's and the potent redline before every workout. Your strength is increasing with each rep, and your pumps get so ridiculous you think you're a new man. Now you tell me, what in the world is going to make you stop taking this supplement? When you stop taking it you lose all the essentials for your monster workout. The thing about it is, it's a supplement, and supplements shouldn't have to be cycled. People only cycle things that are bad for your body by continued use. From taking a real product like NO-Shotgun your body won't get used to it, you can continue having quality gains day after day, month after month.

[Freakyphysique]

Well, for the past year I have been trying pre-workout supplements. The three big hitters that I have tried are NO Xplode (BSN), NO Shotgun (VPX), and NOna Vapor (MT).

The best one for me is NO Xplode.

Here is how I rated them: (1 to 10; 1 being bad, 10 being outstanding)

NO Shotgun (scoop and a half)
Taste = 7
The "POP" or energy jolt = 5
Endurance while training = 8
Focus = 6
After training PUMP = 10
TOTAL = 36

NOna Vapor (two scoops)
Taste = 1
The "POP" or energy jolt = 8
Endurance while training = 8
Focus = 6
After training PUMP = 8
Total = 31

NO Xplode (two scoops)
Taste = 9
The "POP" or energy jolt = 9
Endurance while training = 8
Focus = 8
After training PUMP = 9
Total = 43

I made this chart to help people; the best pre-workout supplement for me is NO Xplode. Everyone is different, and all these products are worth a try.

[RobNyc]

Well, for the past year I have been trying pre-workout supplements. The three big hitters that I have tried are NO Xplode (BSN), NO Shotgun (VPX), and NOna Vapor (MT).

The best one for me is NO Xplode.

Here is how I rated them: (1 to 10; 1 being bad, 10 being outstanding)

NO Shotgun (scoop and a half)
Taste = 7
The "POP" or energy jolt = 5
Endurance while training = 8
Focus = 6
After training PUMP = 10
TOTAL = 36

NOna Vapor (two scoops)
Taste = 1
The "POP" or energy jolt = 8
Endurance while training = 8
Focus = 6
After training PUMP = 8
Total = 31

NO Xplode (two scoops)
Taste = 9
The "POP" or energy jolt = 9
Endurance while training = 8
Focus = 8
After training PUMP = 9
Total = 43

I made this chart to help people; the best pre-workout supplement for me is NO Xplode. Everyone is different, and all these products are worth a try.

thanks for the chart..
I'm ready to use my new NO-XPlode on Tomorrow.
so 2 scoops 30-45mins b4 workin out and how much water ?

[JDRebel]

Im on my second bottle of No-Xplode and I really like the stuff but now my system is pretty used to it and I have to take 2 1/2 to 3 scoops to get the same effects I did whe I first got it. It still gives me a big boost and helps me though my workouts but I'm thinking of trying Superpump 250 or NoShotgun which seems to be popular among everyone. I was hoping I could see some feedback from everyone and let me know what they think of the two. Your feedback is helpful. Thanks

[RobNyc]

Im on my second bottle of No-Xplode and I really like the stuff but now my system is pretty used to it and I have to take 2 1/2 to 3 scoops to get the same effects I did whe I first got it. It still gives me a big boost and helps me though my workouts but I'm thinking of trying Superpump 250 or NoShotgun which seems to be popular among everyone. I was hoping I could see some feedback from everyone and let me know what they think of the two. Your feedback is helpful. Thanks

You should try WhiteFlood.
I have a feeling after our body gets use to No-Xplode the more scoops the faster it will be finished.
I tested 1 scoop on friday and didn't do nothing to me. So I guess today before my workout I will have to use 2 scoops.

[THE TURKEYS]

Xplode is good. I've noticed an increase in focus for sure. Energy isn't as important to me as staying focused on lifting the heavy weights. The only one I have to compare to is NOX-CG3 by xyience and I wouldn't ever buy that product again, just didn't do anything for me. But, with 3 scoops of Xplode I get focused and ready to go hit the weights in 20 mins....on an empty stomach always. I am looking for another one to try, but for the price and servings I think Xplode aint bad.

[thediabolical]

NO Shotgun is the best out of all of them...hands down!!!!

[dawnoffatex]

quick questions:

for NO-XPLODE

Is there any caffeine or other stimulants?

Is it ok to take a creatine with this as well? (Cell mass or SizeON are what I have on hand atm)

[andy1]

Question for anyone who's taken no-xplode a year ago, and then taken it recently (I was told the ingredients in No-Xplode now are different and it's not as effective). I was thinking about Superpump250, but it has Creatine Mono in it, I wanted to lean out a bit, and I remember on mono I always felt a tad bit bloated. I know Horsepower by Ultimate Nutrition, No-Xplode, and Shock Therapy use CEE or Kre-alk, was wondering if this made a difference?

Anyone knowledgeable on the subject your opinions are appreciated!

[vwgti04]

Hi! I'm new here, but I'd like to give my personal experience.. I've been taking a product called NO SHOTGUN. I usually mix 1 scoop with at least 15-20 oz. of water.. Now they say use 10 oz of water, which is too little. In any event.. my heart beat was a little faster than normal... but I had very good pumps, throughout my hour of workout.. Word of advice is to drink more water..

[uhockey]

All "pump" products are best with plenty of water.

[suspek24]

Im on my second bottle of No-Xplode and I really like the stuff but now my system is pretty used to it and I have to take 2 1/2 to 3 scoops to get the same effects I did whe I first got it. It still gives me a big boost and helps me though my workouts but I'm thinking of trying Superpump 250 or NoShotgun which seems to be popular among everyone. I was hoping I could see some feedback from everyone and let me know what they think of the two. Your feedback is helpful. Thanks

From first hand experience, check out my pictures. I don't train a day without NO-Shotgun. I see that you and I are around the same height/weight and I'm telling you that there's nothing better on the market than VPX's NO-Shotgun

[suspek24]

Hi! I'm new here, but I'd like to give my personal experience.. I've been taking a product called NO SHOTGUN. I usually mix 1 scoop with at least 15-20 oz. of water.. Now they say use 10 oz of water, which is too little. In any event.. my heart beat was a little faster than normal... but I had very good pumps, throughout my hour of workout.. Word of advice is to drink more water..

I always use atleast 12 oz of water whenever I'm drinking anything, from creatines to proteins to even bars.

[uhockey]

From first hand experience, check out my pictures. I don't train a day without NO-Shotgun. I see that you and I are around the same height/weight and I'm telling you that there's nothing better on the market than VPX's NO-Shotgun

It is non-stop, your bull**** recommendtion of everything VPX without announcing your affiliation. You, and your company shout be ashamed.

[suspek24]

It is non-stop, your bull**** recommendtion of everything VPX without announcing your affiliation. You, and your company shout be ashamed.

Bro, you should be ashamed. You hide behind a computer screen with your scrawny body and give BS advice about a company that you get PAID to promote. I take supplements that work and want EVERYONE in the world to not waste money on ****ty supplements that you reccomend. You have a M.D. tag, and it's embarrassing as I (freshman in college) seem to know much more about quality supplements than you. I do not get paid by ANY company. Do you even take supplements? You brag about logs from other people (majority don't look good) and Designer Supplements when you have a BIRD CHEST and CHICKEN WINGS! I am proud of the supplements that I take and reccomend, it is you that should be ashamed for representing supplements from a company that you don't even use. And if you do, everyone in the world now knows for a fact that DESIGNER SUPPLEMENTS do not work. Because I've seen kids in ELEMENTARY school with more muscular builds than you. Get at me. And I'm sure you're going to lower my rep again because I put you out so the WHOLE world can see it and you still don't have anything to say in your defense.

[psych]

Bro, you should be ashamed. You hide behind a computer screen with your scrawny body and give BS advice about a company that you get PAID to promote. I take supplements that work and want EVERYONE in the world to not waste money on ****ty supplements that you reccomend. You have a M.D. tag, and it's embarrassing as I (freshman in college) seem to know much more about quality supplements than you. I do not get paid by ANY company. Do you even take supplements? You brag about logs from other people (majority don't look good) and Designer Supplements when you have a BIRD CHEST and CHICKEN WINGS! I am proud of the supplements that I take and reccomend, it is you that should be ashamed for representing supplements from a company that you don't even use. And if you do, everyone in the world now knows for a fact that DESIGNER SUPPLEMENTS do not work. Because I've seen kids in ELEMENTARY school with more muscular builds than you. Get at me. And I'm sure you're going to lower my rep again because I put you out so the WHOLE world can see it and you still don't have anything to say in your defense.

you ARE new here aren't you?
GOD help us if you really are a VPX rep because a lot of people like that company's products (including me), but you also just showed an incredible amount of stupidity when attacking Uhockey who by the way is a well respected member of the bb.com community and has given FAR better advice than most people.

not only that but he's also up there on the ranks along with P.A, M.M, bloute, Pu, Des and a few others.
so the guy isnt a "hardcore" lifter like you, does that mean his knowledge is any less valid than a "muscle head" like you?

[suspek24]

you ARE new here aren't you?
GOD help us if you really are a VPX rep because a lot of people like that company's products (including me), but you also just showed an incredible amount of stupidity when attacking Uhockey who by the way is a well respected member of the bb.com community and has given FAR better advice than most people.

not only that but he's also up there on the ranks along with P.A, M.M, bloute, Pu, Des and a few others.
so the guy isnt a "hardcore" lifter like you, does that mean his knowledge is any less valid than a "muscle head" like you?

I am not a rep for any company. The only advice I have ever seen him give is "take white flood/n.o. limits, look at the logs" they speak better then reccomendations. When I get attacked why should I not speak my mind back? I don't understand why I give valueable knowledge to people and then get called a "rep" for a company and then my reputation is lowered bc I gave good advice and spread the truth about sugary sustain bars?!?!??!

[psych]

I am not a rep for any company. The only advice I have ever seen him give is "take white flood/n.o. limits, look at the logs" they speak better then reccomendations.

he's given FAR more information than that read his past posts go as far back as you can


When I get attacked why should I not speak my mind back? I don't understand why I give valueable knowledge to people and then get called a "rep" for a company and then my reputation is lowered bc I gave good advice and spread the truth about sugary sustain bars?!?!??!

valuable advice and directly attacking a persons physique are not the same thing you attack uhockey cuz he's an MD?? wtf is that? he's a freaking MD and he's been in the bb.com community for quite awhile what the hell are you? jsut a freshman? and... oh wait he's an md.. but you got muscles therefore you must KNOW more .. hmm..
no... just.. no,
knowledge does not equal HUUUUGE muscles learn that

[suspek24]

he's given FAR more information than that read his past posts go as far back as you can



valuable advice and directly attacking a persons physique are not the same thing you attack uhockey cuz he's an MD?? wtf is that? he's a freaking MD and he's been in the bb.com community for quite awhile what the hell are you? jsut a freshman? and... oh wait he's an md.. but you got muscles therefore you must KNOW more .. hmm..
no... just.. no,
knowledge does not equal HUUUUGE muscles learn that

I'm saying that he insulted my intelligence by criticizing my comments about supplements and a company that I respect and if I want to write about a product then I should be able to write about it without seeing Uhockey comment me and call me an ass. I NEVER once said that I knew more than him but from the information I give and he gives and doesn't defend himself from WRONG comments he makes, then I think I know more than him in particular areas! And NOT once have I EVER said I have bigger muscles than you, I know more, I simply said that I use the products and they work for me so I want people to try them. And I give them information to help persuade them to a company that I think works. Isn't that what this Site is about?!?!?!

[uhockey]

And I'm sure you're going to lower my rep again because I put you out so the WHOLE world can see it and you still don't have anything to say in your defense.

Consider my history, son. I've accomplished far more than you in the world of health and body recomposition.

No one respects you and you are nothing but a shill. VPX should be ashamed......funny how all the VPX supporters just showed up recently after the whole debacle....

[punksurfer024]

Bro, you should be ashamed. You hide behind a computer screen with your scrawny body and give BS advice about a company that you get PAID to promote. I take supplements that work and want EVERYONE in the world to not waste money on ****ty supplements that you reccomend. You have a M.D. tag, and it's embarrassing as I (freshman in college) seem to know much more about quality supplements than you. I do not get paid by ANY company. Do you even take supplements? You brag about logs from other people (majority don't look good) and Designer Supplements when you have a BIRD CHEST and CHICKEN WINGS! I am proud of the supplements that I take and reccomend, it is you that should be ashamed for representing supplements from a company that you don't even use. And if you do, everyone in the world now knows for a fact that DESIGNER SUPPLEMENTS do not work. Because I've seen kids in ELEMENTARY school with more muscular builds than you. Get at me. And I'm sure you're going to lower my rep again because I put you out so the WHOLE world can see it and you still don't have anything to say in your defense.


I NEVER once said that I knew more than him

oops :eek:

[suspek24]

Consider my history, son. I've accomplished far more than you in the world of health and body recomposition.

No one respects you and you are nothing but a shill. VPX should be ashamed......funny how all the VPX supporters just showed up recently after the whole debacle....

I don't know what a shill is. I am not a compnay "rep" because I assume that's what you're implying. But you guys are ALL telling me that because Uhockey and other people that have been on this website for years and have a good reputation that people aren't allowed to disagree with them and state their own opinions without being attacked? I think this website is going to shambles because people try to voice their own opinions and are BULLIED by "reps" from companies when this website was created for people to talk about supplements. Not "reps" but people that are into lifting weights and taking supplements. So now UHOCKEY has been on the website for years, so he must know all, he knows my whole entire life, who pays me and what supplements I take and have taken, and most importantly what level of knowledge that I have. RIIIGHT!

[suspek24]

oops :eek:

then I think I know more than him in particular areas!

I was reffering to his responses that I have read and the info given not TOTAL knowledge

[punksurfer024]

I don't know what a shill is. I am not a compnay "rep" because I know that's what you're implying. But you guys are ALL telling me that because Uhockey and other people that have been on this website for years and have a good reputation that people aren't allowed to disagree with them and state their own opinions without being attacked? I think this website is going to shambles because people try to voice their own opinions and are BULLIED by "reps" from companies when this website was created for people to talk about supplements. Not "reps" but people that are into lifting weights and taking supplements. So now UHOCKEY has been on the website for years, so he must know all, he knows my whole entire life, who pays me and what supplements I take and have taken, and most importantly what level of knowledge that I have. RIIIGHT!

just an FYI for you, it is possible to click and see ALL your post history and yours seems to ALL be about, VPX zero impact bars, VPX NO-shotgun, VPX liquid redline liquid.....you see a trend here? i sure do and guess what so do other ppl.

[suspek24]

just an FYI for you, it is possible to click and see ALL your post history and yours seems to ALL be about, VPX zero impact bars, VPX NO-shotgun, VPX liquid redline liquid.....you see a trend here? i sure do and guess what so do other ppl.

I know, but am I not allowed to speak of the supplements that I know about? I only take 3 types of supplements that I can think of, creatine, nitric oxide and protein. That's why they're the only things that I write about. I'm sorry if I'm not in other threads, I didn't know I had to be.

[punksurfer024]

I know, but am I not allowed to speak of the supplements that I know about? I only take 3 types of supplements that I can think of, creatine, nitric oxide and protein. That's why they're the only things that I write about. I'm sorry if I'm not in other threads, I didn't know I had to be.


but they are ALL VPX are you not able to purchase or talk about other products? you have to admit if your not a company shill you sound A LOT like one.

[suspek24]

but they are ALL VPX are you not able to purchase or talk about other products? you have to admit if your not a company shill you sound A LOT like one.

I have talked about other products, but personally I don't trust most of them. I understand that I talk a lot about it and that I seem affiliated with the company, but b/c I'm on their nuts, doesn't mean that I'm with them. I literally do a lot of research on products that I take. I have gotten great results from them, and I want people to be abble to experience it too. And you have to admit that I speak the truth, no?

[suspek24]

I've taken muscle milk RTD, No-xplode, cell mass, nitrix, abb's post workout RTD and even SUSTAIN bars, and detour bars, I can't help it if I like VPX :-P

[punksurfer024]

I have talked about other products, but personally I don't trust most of them. I understand that I talk a lot about it and that I seem affiliated with the company, but b/c I'm on their nuts, doesn't mean that I'm with them. I literally do a lot of research on products that I take. I have gotten great results from them, and I want people to be abble to experience it too. And you have to admit that I speak the truth, no?

you speak your opinion NOT the truth. personally i think NOshotgun is mediocre at best.

[jmil]

then I think I know more than him in particular areas!



I know, but am I not allowed to speak of the supplements that I know about? I only take 3 types of supplements that I can think of, creatine, nitric oxide and protein. That's why they're the only things that I write about. I'm sorry if I'm not in other threads, I didn't know I had to be.

So you basically just said you're knowledgeable about only 3 products, but you think you know more than him in particular areas???? Get out of here, you could read this site everyday for 20 hours and still not be on the level of Uhockey. I barely ever "go off" on this website, but this is just stupid.

[RobNyc]

I did 2 scoops today on 10-12oz of water .. but I wasnt able to workout 30mins after.. I got busy at work and worked out an hour later.. but still noticed some pumps maybe just the normal usual ones .. drank ON protein afterwards and 5mins later drank Cellmass trial

I must admit it seems BSN has great taste in all their products.. I'm going to drink TrueMass now

[Elliptical Envy]

Consider my history, son.

This is pretty hardcore talk from Uhockey......Envy likey. :)

[Juan+Lujan]

I have been taking No explode and 17 hd testostrone it gives me a crazy workout . But i am back up to much weight (cant loose my gut). Is it okay to take the noexplode with a fat burner? Any suggestions? I also changed my workout to include 15 mins of elipticle machine before and after lifting but my weight has still increased.

[Freakyphysique]

This is just my opinion....on a bottle of fat burners, lets say Lipo 6, it says do not take with other caffeine supplements. You should never pop 3 redlines than 2 scoops No Xplode, you may go crazy and have a heart attack.

But what I do when I go on a cut cycle is get a fat burner of your choice (I like Lipo 6). Take first dose right in the morning before protein shake, do some hard fast cardio (empty stomach) around 30 min to get the fire burning then eat breakfast

4-5 hours later I take second dose 30 min before eating lunch.

around 4 hours later I would take some NO Xplode, ON AN EMPTY STOMACH (2 scoops) and now time to go crazy in the gym. I do super-tri-sets its anaerobic/cardio workout very intense, with low weight and high reps. Cool down for a min and do 30min of cardio in 15min sessions

remember before doing something like this asses your tolerance of caffeine first because you will have a lot of it in your system. Could make you dizzy, have cramps, and bad jitters comes with a bad heart pounding. All could mean bad things. Always drink A LOT of water.

and watch last dose of caffeine I won't take any within 5 hours of sleep

OH, and of course your diet will play a HUGE roll in getting shredded

I am no MD but I hope this helps

[DRP7]

Although I decided to be not post here anymore, I can't be quiet when I see such ridiculous stuff:




....when you have a BIRD CHEST and CHICKEN WINGS!


inappropriate and insulting comments like these are the reason why quite some people are leaving this board. continue to do so, and you will be out on a limb here.




....I am proud of the supplements that I take and reccomend, it is you that should be ashamed for representing supplements from a company that you don't even use.


completely incorrect! if you would read uhockey's post history you would see that he is recommending only that stuff that he has positive experience with and is personally convinced of its effectivity and quality.



....And if you do, everyone in the world now knows for a fact that DESIGNER SUPPLEMENTS do not work. Because I've seen kids in ELEMENTARY school with more muscular builds than you.

very flawed logic! you can only judge someone's success when you consider his:
- specific goals (e.g. to achieve a certain body weight, body fat, lean mass, appearance etc.)
- genetic predisposition (not everybody has freaky genes like ronnie coleman)
- natural vs. juicer?
- time someone is willing to spend in the gym. people who have a life and have to work in 36 hour shifts simply cannot spend 3 hours in the gym every day.

with regards to the above points, who are you to judge and valuate what anybody here has accomplished?

I haven't read this thread, nor do I know what kind of conversation with uhockey preceded this post, but your statements are a clear foul. what's even worse is the fact that posts like yours become more and more frequent here and they are considerably contributing to decrease the quality of this board.

I don't know who you are, what you have achieved so far, how your physique looks like and what your credentials are. It doesn't matter. You can be Jay Cutler's brother, or even Jay Cutler himslef, but even this would never qualify you - and anybody else -to speak in that way about other people's physique or character.

[ab-swing asianbabe]

Well the only good thing from this thread is that Dr P is posting again. Welcome back (albeit for a limited time)! :)

Whoever is perfect can throw stones, if not, you can all stfu. Insulting another's physique is not necessary here.

[DRP7]

Well the only good thing from this thread is that Dr P is posting again. Welcome back (albeit for a limited time)! :)

Whoever is perfect can throw stones, if not, you can all stfu. Insulting another's physique is not necessary here.


one more hilarious thread
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3047321

and the appropriate response to it:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=48743971&postcount=69

I can only shake my head about bb.com

but thanks for your friendly words, LIv. If only more people would be as reasonable, civilised, kind, nice (insert 100 more compliments) like you. :)

[rhacem3]

I have done 4-5 cycles of NO-Xplode and loved it. I think my body has definetly gotten used to it. The energy doesn't last anymore. This cycle has been a little extended one and I go off it tomorrow. I am trying the free White Flood sample I got from CL. If that works, I will buy a tub, if not, I am trying SuperPump 250.

Note* The past 2 weeks I have been experimenting with the timing of takin NO-Xplode. The best workouts I've had have been completely empty stomach (at least 1.5 hours of not eating anything) and 20 Minutes before the work out. I tried to take it right before so that I would get a pump 20 minutes into my workout, but strangely the pump didn't seem to come at all. If you wait the 20 minutes, it is a night a day difference in the effectiveness of the product. <- My .02

[jkeithc82]

I don't know what a shill is. I am not a compnay "rep" because I assume that's what you're implying. But you guys are ALL telling me that because Uhockey and other people that have been on this website for years and have a good reputation that people aren't allowed to disagree with them and state their own opinions without being attacked? I think this website is going to shambles because people try to voice their own opinions and are BULLIED by "reps" from companies when this website was created for people to talk about supplements. Not "reps" but people that are into lifting weights and taking supplements. So now UHOCKEY has been on the website for years, so he must know all, he knows my whole entire life, who pays me and what supplements I take and have taken, and most importantly what level of knowledge that I have. RIIIGHT!

Seriously, you = ****.

This board = much better because of uhockey

This board = couldn't care less if you were here or not.

[INGENIUM]

It is non-stop, your bull**** recommendtion of everything VPX without announcing your affiliation. You, and your company shout be ashamed.
:D

[andy1]

As to distract from the bashing and scolding for a second.. :) I was wondering if when trying to lean down it made a difference if the product you were using ie (superpump250) used creatine monohydrate as opposed to no xplode or Horsepower which uses Creatine CEE or Kre-alk, in terms of not feeling bloated ie getting lean ?

Any suggestions or feedback is welcomed.

[TheLBM]

As to distract from the bashing and scolding for a second.. :) I was wondering if when trying to lean down it made a difference if the product you were using ie (superpump250) used creatine monohydrate as opposed to no xplode or Horsepower which uses Creatine CEE or Kre-alk, in terms of not feeling bloated ie getting lean ?

Any suggestions or feedback is welcomed.

Also...
has anyone ever crunched the numbers to finalize a winner?

[bigfrosty]

Currently take Universals shock therphy. Excellent pumps and energy. I heard NO shotgun works well too

[andy1]

Wish they would sell shock therapy in Canada!

[alphaproject]

Suspek24....why would you care what others purchase?

You give a simple opinion and move on, I don't see reason to insult people because they push something.

Heck - I like Dymatize Xpand pills but more for migraines than working out. I also liked NOX3 by Universal Nutrition too.

You push VPX
He pushes DS
Alof of people push NO-Explode, some don't.

It's always a rat race.

I'm trying True Mass right now, and it's tasty but I could care less who else uses it. I like the overall quality better than Cytogainer and it tastes better than Muscle Milk Naturals for my taste buds.

[Quag]

Something that really struck me browsing through most of the forums and supplements section in general is how most of you dislike fizogen products. No, I'm not a company salesman or some agent or anything, just another bodybuilder like most of you. I've read through most of the forums that you distrust people with little posts but everyone's gotta start somewhere:P Blast Cycle was the first NO product that I used 3 months ago. I really liked the pump it gave me and the level of allertness I got (the first time i used it, it was a laxative but by the 3rd time my body got used to it I guess.).

I've been browsing through the forums here a lot learning about stuff and what people think about different supplements as I've only started using them this year. I read a lot of positivist stuff about no-xplode and I've used it now for about a month but it doesn't seem as good as blast. I think overall body gains are still great but the kick or the pump seems to die faster. I workout usually for 2 hours. With Noxplode by an hour and a half I'm totally exhausted. However with Blast I remember working out for a 2 hours with almost no exhaustion. In fact, I'd take a shower and go out and do stuff as if I didn't work out.

I know there are various reasons why most of you prefer no-xplode over other supplements. In fact, the only other product I've read good stuff about on the forums here is SuperPump 250, so I think I'll give that a try. However, I'm wondering why people hate Blast Cycle so much and what makes No-Xplode so much better, when in my case Blast seems to work better.

The only thing I can come up with is that my body got used to NO products and thats why I get a lighter kick or maybe Blast has a significantly higher dosage of caffeine. Still, what makes No-Xplode the best really?

[INGENIUM]

Something that really struck me browsing through most of the forums and supplements section in general is how most of you dislike fizogen products. No, I'm not a company salesman or some agent or anything, just another bodybuilder like most of you. I've read through most of the forums that you distrust people with little posts but everyone's gotta start somewhere:P Blast Cycle was the first NO product that I used 3 months ago. I really liked the pump it gave me and the level of allertness I got (the first time i used it, it was a laxative but by the 3rd time my body got used to it I guess.).

I've been browsing through the forums here a lot learning about stuff and what people think about different supplements as I've only started using them this year. I read a lot of positivist stuff about no-xplode and I've used it now for about a month but it doesn't seem as good as blast. I think overall body gains are still great but the kick or the pump seems to die faster. I workout usually for 2 hours. With Noxplode by an hour and a half I'm totally exhausted. However with Blast I remember working out for a 2 hours with almost no exhaustion. In fact, I'd take a shower and go out and do stuff as if I didn't work out.

I know there are various reasons why most of you prefer no-xplode over other supplements. In fact, the only other product I've read good stuff about on the forums here is SuperPump 250, so I think I'll give that a try. However, I'm wondering why people hate Blast Cycle so much and what makes No-Xplode so much better, when in my case Blast seems to work better.

The only thing I can come up with is that my body got used to NO products and thats why I get a lighter kick or maybe Blast has a significantly higher dosage of caffeine. Still, what makes No-Xplode the best really?
where did you find all these positive reviews of NO-Xplode? :confused:

[Quag]

I can look them up I remember reading them a while back in the forums, either this thread or other threads when people are talking about the "best" NO supplement. A lot of names come up but most people are consistent on No-Xplode. In fact didn't bodybuiding.com choose it too?

[jkeithc82]

where did you find all these positive reviews of NO-Xplode? :confused:


I can look them up I remember reading them a while back in the forums, either this thread or other threads when people are talking about the "best" NO supplement. A lot of names come up but most people are consistent on No-Xplode. In fact didn't bodybuiding.com choose it too?

Ah he's probably referring to the "Best Sellers" list that the main site publishes every so often. List is based on sales, and there is a good population of consumers who buy from BB.com, but do not visit the forums. :cool:

[Quag]

Ah he's probably referring to the "Best Sellers" list that the main site publishes every so often. List is based on sales, and there is a good population of consumers who buy from BB.com, but do not visit the forums. :cool:

Well yeah I guess it is a top seller on the main website, but I've read many reviews here on the forums about it being a great products. I'll list a few.


I'd have to say BSN NO-Xplode. The first day I took it I did my leg workout. Normally this day leaves me struggling to walk out of the gym and sore for a couple of days. All I felt the next day was a little stiffness. My recovery time in general has never been better, I have tons of energy during my workout, and all my lifts have gone up. When I first heard about this product a lot of people said that all NO does is give you a good pump, nothing else. I have found the opposite to be true. The pumps are great, but there are many other benefits from using NO-Xplode.

Here's another one,


For me, the best out there is by far the no-xplode. My mental focus is so much more amped since i started using it! Ten minutes after taking it, i'm ready to lift right out of the gym! I've been using no-xplode for 2 weeks now and pumps are really tight. I'm actually starting to see the veins on my biceps start to stick out and i've increased my bench from 265 to 275lbs. Not trying to sound like an infomercial guy.... but it really works for me.

Or this even,


BSN's No Explode is awesome. Guaranteed, anybody who tries it (you will know right away!) will stay with it! You only need to take it pre-workout... not on non-workout days. This is the leader of no-load creatine / NOS products; often immitated, NEVER DUPLICATED!!

I understand that these are the views of specific users, I was under the impression that there was some consensus on it being one of the better products out there, compared to blast cylcle or others.

[MollyD1016]

What's a good NO product that doesn't have caffine? I just got off No-Explode, the only effect I got from it was energy. Looking for more of a pump, I workout in the morning after breakfast energy isn't really an issue for me.

[suspek24]

Suspek24....why would you care what others purchase?

You give a simple opinion and move on, I don't see reason to insult people because they push something.

Heck - I like Dymatize Xpand pills but more for migraines than working out. I also liked NOX3 by Universal Nutrition too.

You push VPX
He pushes DS
Alof of people push NO-Explode, some don't.

It's always a rat race.

I'm trying True Mass right now, and it's tasty but I could care less who else uses it. I like the overall quality better than Cytogainer and it tastes better than Muscle Milk Naturals for my taste buds.

I understand what you're saying and completely agree, but what no one else sees is when Uhockey complains on the thread for NO prodcuts about me talking about an NO product, therefore he is ruining the board, but he's been here longer than I have and therefore I know nothing. I'm trying to drop it but at the same time would like to defend myself and explain, but at the sametime I don't want to ruin the thread about NO supplements b/c that is what it's for. But like I said before, I want people to take supplements that work and I give them detailed reasons and show that NO-Shotgun it has worked on me. And I insulted him b/c he insulted me by calling me an ass for no reason other than I give valuable info and therefore must be a rep, and he said I should be ashamed, so I was IMO defending myself. But this will be my last post reffering to anything other than NO Products.

[jkeithc82]

but he's been here longer than I have and therefore I know nothing.

You are 19.

He is now a doctor, has represented DS since you were in junior high and is more knowledgeable then 99.9% of the board. There is nothing for you to defend.

uhockey > you.

[alphaproject]

I'll say this, but not in defense of suspek24, just as a general statement.

Just because you are a doctor, doesn't mean you are a great doctor.

There are terrible doctors out there that have almost got people killed or have gotten people killed with their advice, so don't use that as Uhockey being greater than the sum of Suspek24, that's just lame.

Uhockey is just a person on the internet like all of us. Take everything with a grain of salt on the web. Unless you personally know him and can vouch for him don't try to convince anyone, especially me that he's great just because he's a doctor and Suspek24 isn't.

You can learn alot of things and NOT be certified in anything, it's just paper. You could be a genious and actually be smarter than any doctor but not get a MD or PHD.

Everyone is supposed to be equal here. That's my main point. All just opinions and hopefully facts based upon what they/you have experienced.

[jkeithc82]

I'll say this, but not in defense of suspek24, just as a general statement.

Just because you are a doctor, doesn't mean you are a great doctor.

There are terrible doctors out there that have almost got people killed or have gotten people killed with their advice, so don't use that as Uhockey being greater than the sum of Suspek24, that's just lame.

Uhockey is just a person on the internet like all of us. Take everything with a grain of salt on the web. Unless you personally know him and can vouch for him don't try to convince anyone, especially me that he's great just because he's a doctor and Suspek24 isn't.

You can learn alot of things and NOT be certified in anything, it's just paper. You could be a genious and actually be smarter than any doctor but not get a MD or PHD.

Everyone is supposed to be equal here. That's my main point. All just opinions and hopefully facts based upon what they/you have experienced.

In terms of knowledge about how the body works, functions, biological processes and how uhockey can apply that knowledge to supplements, diet and training, I'll take his MD over 19 year old suspeks amateur advice any day of the week. :cool:

[INGENIUM]

I'll say this, but not in defense of suspek24, just as a general statement.

Just because you are a doctor, doesn't mean you are a great doctor.

There are terrible doctors out there that have almost got people killed or have gotten people killed with their advice, so don't use that as Uhockey being greater than the sum of Suspek24, that's just lame.

Uhockey is just a person on the internet like all of us. Take everything with a grain of salt on the web. Unless you personally know him and can vouch for him don't try to convince anyone, especially me that he's great just because he's a doctor and Suspek24 isn't.

You can learn alot of things and NOT be certified in anything, it's just paper. You could be a genious and actually be smarter than any doctor but not get a MD or PHD.

Everyone is supposed to be equal here. That's my main point. All just opinions and hopefully facts based upon what they/you have experienced.
:rolleyes:

uhockey obviously knows more, he has WAYYY more reps :D

[alphaproject]

Guess so.

[jadaku]

Nano Vapor Is The Best Product Out There Right Now.

[Nick_04]

K i have a question about N.O products... I've tried superpump250 that was ok and all. but N.O shotgun is 17+ and they dont even ask for my age at reflex and i can buy it. DO they usually ask your age?

[ToTha5Boroughs]

DO they usually ask your age?

it's your own choice to risk your own health

[Nick_04]

How is N.O risking your heath...when its safe.

[suspek24]

:rolleyes:

uhockey obviously knows more, he has WAYYY more reps :D

lmao that should go into your signature with wikipedia :D

[suspek24]

K i have a question about N.O products... I've tried superpump250 that was ok and all. but N.O shotgun is 17+ and they dont even ask for my age at reflex and i can buy it. DO they usually ask your age?

I think they're normally supposed to check or atleast ask, I don't think most places care though but I've never heard of reflex

[Nick_04]

Or maybe they just think i look like 18+. Cause i get that A LOT.

[PumpingSteel]

K i have a question about N.O products... I've tried superpump250 that was ok and all. but N.O shotgun is 17+ and they dont even ask for my age at reflex and i can buy it. DO they usually ask your age?

most supplements are +17....... even n.o. shotgun

[alphaproject]

I tried some NO Explode tonight and I didn't feel like I was focused or hyped but I felt like I could workout 2x as long and didn't feel jittery.

How much caffeine is in N.O. Explode anyways? I can't find the exact amount on the label.

20k mg of various ingredients. I want specifics.

Anyways but I was also on Beta-X 2000mg + DHEA (25mg) and I took my True Mass before earlier.

I really felt like working out for awhile. Usually I focus on just 2 groups, but instead I did, Chest, Triceps, Shoulders, 20x2 pullups, plus about 8 more, then I did the strider machine for 12 minutes. I also did a few situps. This was all without feeling really tired even though my arms felt a tad tired, I wasn't.

Probably one of the best workouts in a long time.

Oh, I forgot to mention the 1500mg of extra L-Carnosine I took earlier in the day. I have no clue if it actually does anything like Beta Alanine though in large doses because until today I've never took more than 1000mg at a time.

I worked out at 9:45pm and it's about 1:03am now and I still feel some tingles. Beta-Alanine is the only supplement that I've ever been able to feel. I'd say it's 3rd best from Protein and Androstendione.(B4 being Banned)

[suspek24]

I tried some NO Explode tonight and I didn't feel like I was focused or hyped but I felt like I could workout 2x as long and didn't feel jittery.

How much caffeine is in N.O. Explode anyways? I can't find the exact amount on the label.

20k mg of various ingredients. I want specifics.


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=47060381#post47060381


I'm not sure how true it is but I think it's close, I know that companies like to hide their ingredients so people don't steal them so I really don't know if there is a true way to tell besides doing the percentages?!

[ScottH]

Please disregard my ignorance.

But I was looking for some general information about these two products. I read the description for the two products but I can't get past the big words for the description.

So if someone can explain the benifit(s) of these two products without using big glorified scientific words I would really appriciate it.

The two products are:

No-Xplode

&

BSN CellMass

Thanks in advance. =)

[comet_steel]

First off, BSN says that there is as much caffeine in one scoop of NO-Xplode as in 1 cup of coffee(I can't remember mg amount).

Second, NO-Xplode is a training intensifier. It is supposed to help you put up more weight so you can get bigger faster. Cellmass is a post-workout recovery supplement. It helps you grow faster by speeding recovery. It is mostly creatine. Together they should give great results. I am about to start using both of them along with my currently used 100% whey and animal pak.

[ScottH]

First off, BSN says that there is as much caffeine in one scoop of NO-Xplode as in 1 cup of coffee(I can't remember mg amount).

Second, NO-Xplode is a training intensifier. It is supposed to help you put up more weight so you can get bigger faster. Cellmass is a post-workout recovery supplement. It helps you grow faster by speeding recovery. It is mostly creatine. Together they should give great results. I am about to start using both of them along with my currently used 100% whey and animal pak.

So basically you take no-xplode before your workout and cellmas after your workout?

[suspek24]

So basically you take no-xplode before your workout and cellmas after your workout?

Xplode: Before workouts (nothing but caffeine should get a different supp)


Cell mass: after workouts (3grams of creatine need different supplement)

[F1ape]

A homebrew NO.... similar to the essential ingredients found in most NO products. It gives me some pretty good pumps, just as good or better than my experiences with superpump, noxplode, animal pump etc... you can taylor the dosage amounts to your needs

Recipe:
1000mg L-Arginine (pill) - NO producer - could use Ethyl Ester, which is better but its cost prohibitive
1000mg Taurine (pill) - cell volumizer, heightened the creatine & caffeine effect
5g Micronized Creatine Mono (powder)
200mg Caffeine (pill) - energy

~$25 for a 1.5+ month supply, way less than NO Products

[Borup]

I have only tried No explode, supercharge and superpump. Out of those superpump takes the cake.. Just started with it and like the feel it gives.. Good pump and good focus.. Also started sizeon with it.. And just one thing..
Those who think that tastes good are crazy!!!

[iceman027]

have only used NO2, definite increase in mass but didn't really see the pumps everyone talks about

[Sldge]

I'll say this, but not in defense of suspek24, just as a general statement.

Just because you are a doctor, doesn't mean you are a great doctor.

There are terrible doctors out there that have almost got people killed or have gotten people killed with their advice, so don't use that as Uhockey being greater than the sum of Suspek24, that's just lame.

Uhockey is just a person on the internet like all of us. Take everything with a grain of salt on the web. Unless you personally know him and can vouch for him don't try to convince anyone, especially me that he's great just because he's a doctor and Suspek24 isn't.

You can learn alot of things and NOT be certified in anything, it's just paper. You could be a genious and actually be smarter than any doctor but not get a MD or PHD.

Everyone is supposed to be equal here. That's my main point. All just opinions and hopefully facts based upon what they/you have experienced.

Well he works for me and I just got finished signing his employment contract. I can assure you and anyone else he is a REAL MD not a "web" md.


What's a good NO product that doesn't have caffine? I just got off No-Explode, the only effect I got from it was energy. Looking for more of a pump, I workout in the morning after breakfast energy isn't really an issue for me.

The best NO product without caff. is NO Limits. There are atleast 10 tester logs here at BB.com with plenty of before and after pictures showing what you can expect from it.

[RobNyc]

So I got the NO-Xplode, Trial Pack for CEllMass and Truemass..

I called BSN and they were more than happy to transfer me to performance experts. I was told NO-Xplode 25-30mins preworkout (1 scoop) first to see your tolerance.. Next workout increase another or 1/2 scoop if didn't notice much. Max is 3 scoops.. Recommended dosage is 1-3 scoops.. Boy my third time using this and im doing 2 scoops. on friday im going to do 2 1/2 scoops. I worked out good today, good pumps, wasn't tired at all. I took cellmass afterwards and boy I wasnt tired at all im saying.. Usually after I workout I'm busted and I fall asleep in the train I couldnt even close my eyes lol.

CellMass (on workin out) days take afterworkout and before bed. on non-workin out days take either right when you wake up or right before you go to bed.

TrueMass (20-30mins after drinkin cellmass) non-workin out days in between meals and can serve as meal replacement..

1 thing I must says its expensive, but it all taste good. I love it.. they all taste good. I've tried STrawberry, Chocolate and Vanilla TrueMass its really good. (1 packet = 1 serving w/ 12-16oz of milk) .. Yummy that was my breakfast today I was in a hurry.

CellMass (6-10oz) of water depending on the sweetness you want.

NO-X same.. (1 scoop = 6oz of water) 2 scoops = 10-12oz of water also depending on the sweetness level you want to achieve.

I'm going to think and look at the prices to see if I should get cellmass and truemass. The bad thing is.. too many scoops (it will be gone fast)

I worked out today.. drank Truemass in the morning, ate food at 2:30pm .. took no-xplode at 3:35-3:40pm, worked out at 4:10pm until 4:45pm. took cellmass at 4:55pm .. its 8:00pm and i havent drank no ON protein nor nothing and im still energized

[Sbranst]

Spent 6 months rolling NO-Explode, the best tasting by FAR. Been using WF over the past month, my workouts have been a bit more focused and intense.

The overall cost per serving is a big plus for me as well.

New to the boards, I really enjoy them so far.