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agony21
02-08-2005, 11:27 AM
Upon reccomedation of using OJ to cut the taste of CEE, I have tried it and it works well.. However, I am worried that I may be deminishing the effectiveness by taking it with OJ. Does anyone know of or have seen any studies on the effects of an acidic drinks on CEE? I know other options are Crystal Light or Gatorade, but I am specifically wondering about OJ...

Thanks all

Styleee
02-09-2005, 01:55 PM
Upon reccomedation of using OJ to cut the taste of CEE, I have tried it and it works well.. However, I am worried that I may be deminishing the effectiveness by taking it with OJ. Does anyone know of or have seen any studies on the effects of an acidic drinks on CEE? I know other options are Crystal Light or Gatorade, but I am specifically wondering about OJ...

Thanks all

Research actually shows you should NOT mix creatine with any citrus product.

Wedgylx
02-24-2005, 11:00 AM
Research actually shows you should NOT mix creatine with any citrus product.

acidic environments aid the conversion of creatine to creatinine. Mix it with something else

pu12en12g
02-24-2005, 11:01 AM
Research actually shows you should NOT mix creatine with any citrus product.

Myth


Why added dextrose is not the answer:

Another good step in the right direction. Dextrose is higher glycemic and causes longer and higher insulin spikes than say fructose or sucrose. It's the highest glycemic natural sugar. Even at that, the largest part of the insulin boost will be gone by the time the creatine reaches the muscle.

What is effective?

Well, the answer is quite obvious and a lot cheaper. Either I'm the smartest man in the world (and I doubt it) or somebody is keeping the obvious under wraps. Isn't it plain to the eye that you need to create an insulin spike when the creatine reaches the muscle? Well, I did the research myself on a total of 25 subjects, 10 taking creatine with grape juice, 8 taking it with OJ and extra OJ at 20,30 and 40 minutes after ingestion, and the last 7 taking it with milk and drinking OJ at 20, 30 and 40 minutes after ingestion. The result was overwhelming. The second and third group gained 92 and 83 percent more muscle mass over a period of 8 weeks. I opted for OJ because not everyone is a big fan of grape juice, but I would guess using the same amounts of grape juice would create greater insulin spikes and be more effective. Using dextrose could be amazingly effective, but who can afford to take 3 times 20 grams of dextrose? No in light of advising cost-effective supplements, so you can afford to stack more efficiently, advising that would be unethical.

Recently some people have told me about concerns of creatine turning to creatinine faster in OJ because of the citric acid. I doubt that citric acid could have a greater effect than stomach acids , but if it is indeed a concern for some, just observe the one obvious rule I hinted at before: whatever you dissolve it in , don't leave it sitting. Drink it.

Matt96teg
02-24-2005, 11:23 AM
Research actually shows you should NOT mix creatine with any citrus product.
Research shows that your statement is false.

Jedi Master
02-24-2005, 02:17 PM
Research actually shows you should NOT mix creatine with any citrus product.


That is such an old and terrible myth. I thought that had died out by now.

Actually OJ is the only thing that masks the taste of bulk powders for me, CEE, Phenibut etc...

Styleee
02-26-2005, 08:40 AM
Ok so maybe adding OJ to CEE is OK but why do it? OJ is such an overall TERRIBLE drink to consume, packed with sugar... there are better alternatives.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/diet.fitness/02/11/juice.abuse.ap/index.html

RUFFRYD3R
02-26-2005, 10:39 AM
gatorade is good to mix with

kendog
02-26-2005, 12:13 PM
Stomach acid is Hydrochloric Acid at a pH of 1. OJ is the least of creatines worries. When you swallow the creatine it goes directly to your stomach without stopping at Go. So tell my why sitting in OJ for 30 seconds would matter?