Best Overall Creatine Product?

[admin]

If you had to pick just ONE creatine product, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick a product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take creatine, if creatine works, or why some creatines do not work. Just list your absolute favorite creatine product and give your detailed reason.)

[MattyH7688]

monohyrdate is the most effective proven creatine out

[emptypockets]

SAN's v-12 Turbo

1. alittle to no water weight and I kept about 85% of the weight gained after I went off of it
2. makes my veins JUMP OUT like crazy, great for vascularity
3. gave me great strength increases, lifted more than I could ever imagine and kept the gains after I was off it
4. the fruit punch tasted WONDERFUL, would drink it for fun
5. inexpensive on bb.com compared to other places
6. made me look fuller and I felt bigger in the mirror

[musclemilk40]

No doubt, mono is the way to go.....everything else is just a sales gimmick!

ABB Creaforce yummy yummy in my tummy!!!!!!!1

out

[emptypockets]

you guys clearly didnt read his post. he said list your fav. product and reasons why, nothing else.

"Just list your absolute favorite creatine product and give your detailed reason"

[WolfPack331]

Cell Mass by BSN. I generally don't like BSN's **** like N.O.Xplode or Nitrix, but cel mass did get me a lot stronger even though it is pricey. And both the punch and grape flavors taste awesome.

[Kill Em All]

Micronized Creatine Monohydrate by AST Sports Science.

I've gotten nothing but positive feedback from this supplement. I felt stronger and can last longer between sets and reps than when I did without it. Monohydrate has been receiving positive feedback from a lot of other athletes as it has also worked for them so it's your best bet to try it out.

A 1000 Gram (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/microcreatine.html) bottle of creatine could last me for months and it's well worth it. Being that it is from an establish company like AST, I had nothing to worry about.

[RawDawgKing]

I just ordered some AST Micronized Creatine Mono, hoping it'll be my savior as just about all the controlled labs creatine products have given me headaches. Does anyone know which creatine product on the market is probably the least likely to cause headaches?

[WorkThemWeights]

I am a hardgainer, so I need a weight gainer. This Creatine Mass 10,000 from Healthy 'N Fit is awesome for me because it is a weight gainer with 10 GRAMS of creatine monohydrate per serving plus 45 grams of whey protein. Kinda like an all in one, but the 10G of Creatine is what I really like about it, I don't have to buy a seperate Creatine product.

[hardgainer421]

That stuff sounds good, but how does it taste?

[WorkThemWeights]

It actually tastes pretty good, I'm a chocolate lover so I love the chocolate, I haven't tried the Vanilla but I'm gonna get that one next time I order.

[pittjoe33]

I have been using all of the CEE and Kre-Alklyn products and found this article on Muscle and Fitness forums. It dissapointed me. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Creatine ethyl ester rapidly degrades to creatinine in stomach acid

Child R1 and Tallon MJ2

1Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. 2University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, DrChild@CR-Technologies.net

Creatine ethyl ester (CEE) is a commercially available synthetic creatine that is now widely used in dietary supplements. It comprises of creatine with an ethyl group attached and this molecular configuration is reported to provide several advantages over creatine monohydrate (CM). The Medical Research Institute (CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (CE2) provides greater solubility in lipids, leading to improved absorption. Similarly San (San Corporation, CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (San CM2 Alpha) avoids the breakdown of creatine to creatinine in stomach acids. Ultimately it is claimed that CEE products provide greater absorption and efficacy than CM. To date, none of these claims have been evaluated by an independent, or university laboratory and no comparative data are available on CEE and CM.

This study assessed the availability of creatine from three commercial creatine products during degradation in acidic conditions similar to those that occur in the stomach. They comprised of two products containing CEE (San CM2 Alpha and CE2) and commercially available CM (Creapure?). An independent laboratory, using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP), performed the analysis. Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37? 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes. Creatine availability was assessed by immediately assaying for free creatine, CEE and the creatine breakdown product creatinine, using HPLC (UV)

After 30 minutes incubation only 73% of the initial CEE present was available from CE2, while the amount of CEE available from San CM2 Alpha was even lower at only 62%. In contrast, more than 99% of the creatine remained available from the CM product. These reductions in CEE availability were accompanied by substantial creatinine formation, without the appearance of free creatine. After 120minutes incubation 72% of the CEE was available from CE2 with only 11% available from San CM2 Alpha, while more than 99% of the creatine remained available from CM.

CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine.

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Kre-alkalyn? supplementation has no beneficial effect on creatine-to-creatinine conversion rates.

Tallon MJ1 and Child R2

1University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, 2Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. DrTallon@CR-Technologies.net

All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp. (Billings, MT, USA) claim that Kre-alkalyn? (KA) a ?Buffered? creatine, is 100% stable in stomach acid and does not convert to creatinine. In contrast, they also claim that creatine monohydrate (CM) is highly pH labile with more than 90% of the creatine converting to the degradation product creatinine in stomach acids. To date, no independent or university laboratory has evaluated the stability of KA in stomach acids, assessed its possible conversion to creatinine, or made direct comparisons of acid stability with CM.

This study examined whether KA supplementation reduced the rate of creatine conversion to creatinine, relative to commercially available CM (Creapure?). Creatine products were analyzed by an independent commercial laboratory using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37? 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes and immediately analyzed by HPLC (UV) for creatine and creatinine.

In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.

[RawDawgKing]

Ok so let me get this straight, "creatinine" is essentially the term used for when creatine (combining with your stomach acids) becomes a toxin in your system, correct? And when that toxin induces itself, this is when you start to experiece side effects.......? Is that assessment fairly accurate, or no?

[The Brotherhood]

creapure monohydrate

[pittjoe33]

Ok so let me get this straight, "creatinine" is essentially the term used for when creatine (combining with your stomach acids) becomes a toxin in your system, correct? And when that toxin induces itself, this is when you start to experiece side effects.......? Is that assessment fairly accurate, or no?

I believe that is correct, but I'm unsure of the side effects.

[Pearson666]

Cheap and effective.

[miketl]

creatine dont work

[gountilfailure0]

im liking the size on right now my core lifts are all going up and it taste great

[Colossal Spoons]

Creatine ethyl ester (CEE) is a commercially available synthetic creatine that is now widely used in dietary supplements. It comprises of creatine with an ethyl group attached and this molecular configuration is reported to provide several advantages over creatine monohydrate (CM). The Medical Research Institute (CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (CE2) provides greater solubility in lipids, leading to improved absorption. Similarly San (San Corporation, CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (San CM2 Alpha) avoids the breakdown of creatine to creatinine in stomach acids. Ultimately it is claimed that CEE products provide greater absorption and efficacy than CM. To date, none of these claims have been evaluated by an independent, or university laboratory and no comparative data are available on CEE and CM.

That's my stuff :D

[allarng]

I've had very little luck with most creatines, except one. As much as I hate to admit it, MuscleTech's CellTech Hardcore worked really well for me. It's definetly pricey, but my bench was going up 5-10 lbs a week in the first three weeks. I can't say how well it works over a long period, or how much of the gains you keep when you get off, cuz I recently broke my humerus in 5 spots so my lifting is done for a while. But, when I'm healthy again I'll be back on it.

[sparrowc2]

Beverly Creatine select. I really see improvment in my endurance and max reps. Abit on the exspencive side for creatine but worth it

[Destroya]

Sizeon is the best overall.

[pittjoe33]

Ok so let me get this straight, "creatinine" is essentially the term used for when creatine (combining with your stomach acids) becomes a toxin in your system, correct? And when that toxin induces itself, this is when you start to experiece side effects.......? Is that assessment fairly accurate, or no?

What is creatinine?

Creatinine is a chemical waste molecule that is generated from muscle metabolism. Creatinine is produced from creatine, a molecule of major importance for energy production in muscles. Approximately 2% of the body's creatine is converted to creatinine every day. Creatinine is transported through the bloodstream to the kidneys. The kidneys filter out most of the creatinine and dispose of it in the urine.

Why is it important to check blood creatinine levels?

The kidneys maintain the blood creatinine in a normal range. Creatinine has been found to be a fairly reliable indicator of kidney function. As the kidneys become impaired the creatinine level in the blood will rise. Abnormally high levels of creatinine thus warn of possible malfunction or failure of the kidneys, sometimes even before a patient reports any symptoms. It is for this reason that standard blood and urine tests routinely check the amount of creatinine in the blood.

[GifDaddy]

Size On BY Gaspari - Get a Great Pump and Definite Strength Increases, best creatine i have taken so far. Only Problem is its not easy on the wallet

[pittjoe33]

Size On BY Gaspari - Get a Great Pump and Definite Strength Increases, best creatine i have taken so far. Only Problem is its not easy on the wallet

Have you tried VPX NO Shotgun or BSN NO Xplode? If so, how does Gaspari compare? I'm asking because I'd like to try Sizeon and SuperPump 250. I've hear people say they spend a lot of time in the bathroom. Have you had any trouble with the taste or extended bathroom breaks?

[mattftw]

SizeOn lemon ice is good

[GermanNexus]

Vitargo CGL works good for me

[d_cup316]

I use SizeOn and have had great results. My roomate has been using it for a cycle and once he stopped using his losses in size and weight were at a minimum. I haven't used a creatine product in years so I have nothing in the current market to compare it to. But, IMO it is a good product.

[steve009]

cellmass gets my approval

[emchowdhury]

Cell tech

[makemoneymike]

any comments on met rx creatine?

[teraflx]

Im almost done with my can of Animal Pack and I have never had gains like this from any other product. Its working great!

[beez721]

pro lab creapure has given me great gains in strength and recovery. went up 30 lbs in deads,,,25 lbs in squats in the 3 weeks Ive been using,,,all while Ive been in a caloric deficit as Im trying to drop a few more body fat %ages. feel much less fatigued between sets

[JFrye]

cell tech is hands down the best creatine supplement. its a great mass builder for a hardgainer like me.

[I OuTsiDeR I]

cell tech is hands down the best creatine supplement. its a great mass builder for a hardgainer like me.

How long have you been lifting since you are only 14 (serious)?

[ricko1]

i would pick cold fusion ex

[jumptheshark]

By far it is on the new kid on the block-"CON-CRET" by ProMera Health. Why is it the best? Micro Dosing for one, 1/4 teaspoon per 100 lbs of bodyweight.
How is that? This new amino acid is specially conjugated with no fillers, no binders, no sugars and it is not buffered. It is pure 100% concentrated creatine. It will not breakdown into creatinine at all-therefore there is no chance of any side effects like bloating, gas, upset stomach and digestive problems. You get full solubility-there is no other product in the market than disolves clearly in 6 ounces of water-take the challenge. Take any pill capsule or powder-what you see in the glass is probably what is sittig in your stomach. Con-Cret is 100% bio-available to the muscles-how so, well it is engineered to the ph level in your stomach. I did mention micro dosing-do you think that your current favorite can state that, no loading, no cycling EVER! We are talking less than 2 grams per 200lb person a day....the only reason your taking more is because up to 80% of your stuff is probably bio waste. Stop wasting your time and step up to the challenge and get Con-Cret, for rapid recovery, increase workout rates and overall wellness.






If you had to pick just ONE creatine product, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick a product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take creatine, if creatine works, or why some creatines do not work. Just list your absolute favorite creatine product and give your detailed reason.)

[jumptheshark]

cell tech is hands down the best creatine supplement. its a great mass builder for a hardgainer like me.

You are taking mono layered with all sorts of added ingredients that your body can't digest entirely. Your are wasting your ,omey and time at the gym. First of all you need to load, do some research on loading-why do you, becuase too much of what your taking heads down to your intestines as bio waste, and as it sits there it is drawing fluids out of you. On top of it you need insulin carriers-why becuase mono goes no where and trying to get insulin to do the work is fruitless. Take better care of yourself, better yet, pull the patents onthese companies and really read whay they too into this stuff-for example Kre-Alkalyn...pure mono all 5000mg with a spoon full of sugar....check the label on the box and you wont see it. Pull that patent and there it is in black and white.....the internet is a great place to follow up on everything-just pick the right place. If they bodly place a patent on it-go to the US Patent web page and pull it.

[jumptheshark]

I just ordered some AST Micronized Creatine Mono, hoping it'll be my savior as just about all the controlled labs creatine products have given me headaches. Does anyone know which creatine product on the market is probably the least likely to cause headaches?

You want a performance creatine with no hype, Con-Cret-get it at GNC. Pay the price, it comes with all these added benefits:
No Load, No Cycle, No Binders, No Sugar, No Fillers, No Buffering, No Micronize, No Side Effects-that includes headaches. By the way check your blood sugar level on the headaches-what you could be taking is layered in sugar or some type of sweetner and that could be a cause.

Oh the benefits....micro dosing hellooooo 1/4 teaspoon per 100 lbs....never heard of it until now..MICRO DOSING....why..it is pure!

[Jamier11]

Im almost done with my can of Animal Pack and I have never had gains like this from any other product. Its working great!

Thats awesome man, but theres no creatine in animal pak. Its a multi.

[CampbellzSoup]

The only Creatine I've actually liked thus far was TRAC lemon ice. Not only does it not taste like utter ****; it actually gives you a bit more stamina as well.

[Rodzilla]

You want a performance creatine with no hype, Con-Cret-get it at GNC. Pay the price, it comes with all these added benefits:
No Load, No Cycle, No Binders, No Sugar, No Fillers, No Buffering, No Micronize, No Side Effects-that includes headaches. By the way check your blood sugar level on the headaches-what you could be taking is layered in sugar or some type of sweetner and that could be a cause.

Oh the benefits....micro dosing hellooooo 1/4 teaspoon per 100 lbs....never heard of it until now..MICRO DOSING....why..it is pure!

it soudns really cool, i would like to try it, are you a rep?

[cohiba]

Creapure Monohydrate

[NeXMuScLe]

I've been using Nutrabio Creatine Ethyl Ester
Mixes pretty well but tastes god awful
Definitely going to go the flavored route next time

[nufc]

it soudns really cool, i would like to try it, are you a rep?
Pretty sure he is :p

[BIG CHUCKY]

my favorite to date is the six star muscle fuel hardcore strength fruit punch. the **** is awesome and very affordable too.

[fpjesuits55]

Im almost done with my can of Animal Pack and I have never had gains like this from any other product. Its working great!

animal pak is a multi

[inkedouttrucca]

most people are going to stand by the company they choose to use. ive tried celltech,cellmass,vitagro cgl, and es phosophgen. they all taste ok. vitagro dosent mix well. im using cellmass and no explode now. it does give me good buzz in the gym to cary me thru heavy sets.and really solid feel. but i piss all damn night and get no sleep what so ever. so that aint cool. alos on animal pack and muscle milk. went from 170-205 in 8 months my diet is ok too

[I OuTsiDeR I]

By far it is on the new kid on the block-"CON-CRET" by ProMera Health. Why is it the best? Micro Dosing for one, 1/4 teaspoon per 100 lbs of bodyweight.
How is that? This new amino acid is specially conjugated with no fillers, no binders, no sugars and it is not buffered. It is pure 100% concentrated creatine. It will not breakdown into creatinine at all-therefore there is no chance of any side effects like bloating, gas, upset stomach and digestive problems. You get full solubility-there is no other product in the market than disolves clearly in 6 ounces of water-take the challenge. Take any pill capsule or powder-what you see in the glass is probably what is sittig in your stomach. Con-Cret is 100% bio-available to the muscles-how so, well it is engineered to the ph level in your stomach. I did mention micro dosing-do you think that your current favorite can state that, no loading, no cycling EVER! We are talking less than 2 grams per 200lb person a day....the only reason your taking more is because up to 80% of your stuff is probably bio waste. Stop wasting your time and step up to the challenge and get Con-Cret, for rapid recovery, increase workout rates and overall wellness.


You want a performance creatine with no hype, Con-Cret-get it at GNC. Pay the price, it comes with all these added benefits:
No Load, No Cycle, No Binders, No Sugar, No Fillers, No Buffering, No Micronize, No Side Effects-that includes headaches. By the way check your blood sugar level on the headaches-what you could be taking is layered in sugar or some type of sweetner and that could be a cause.

Oh the benefits....micro dosing hellooooo 1/4 teaspoon per 100 lbs....never heard of it until now..MICRO DOSING....why..it is pure!

Do you work for them ;)

[teraflx]

animal pak is a multi


Thats awesome man, but theres no creatine in animal pak. Its a multi.


Im an idiot, I meant to say pump.

[ricekiller]

im using COLD FUSION EX and it comes with a free spray that works pretty well
i dont feel the pump so much but the gains are there im going to be trying size on soon enough

[Daniel22]

cell tech gave me the quickest gains...but literally none of it stayed on. i was bigger, but not cut like i wanted to be. after that i stayed away from creatine for a while but now im using cell mass and would have to say it has helped me add and keep on lean muscle even while cutting.

[XxKARN1VORxX]

creaform by primaforce is what i take

[stubhub]

gaspari size on

[Sv87guS]

i took cellmass for a year liked it, i dont actually know what to think about it i probably wasted alot of money. Im goin to Higher power Micronized Crea Mono. Do i need to load that ill get months for half the price. And ive MONO is the way to go.

[Gravik]

I am a hardgainer, so I need a weight gainer. This Creatine Mass 10,000 from Healthy 'N Fit is awesome for me because it is a weight gainer with 10 GRAMS of creatine monohydrate per serving plus 45 grams of whey protein. Kinda like an all in one, but the 10G of Creatine is what I really like about it, I don't have to buy a seperate Creatine product.

same man. it's good stuff...

[MOTOR PROTIEN]

creatine serum works great for me... has all the GOOD effects without loading.

MM USA ATP creatine serum with glucosamine

i have tried a lot of different types of creatine... i dont mind the cell volumizing effects of powder creatine but once you stop taking it you lose some volume.

[edzy]

CEE is easyily the best if you know what your talking about....

so much more power than normal monohydrate or micronised.

[DbK_o6]

just bought met rx hardcore cee akg
anyone tried it? any thoughts or comments would be appreciated
also would it be ok to mix it with weight gainer?? im on serious mass at the mo but wanted to try creatine as ive never had it before and want to see if it makes a difference

thanks

[Sv87guS]

cell tech is hands down the best creatine supplement. its a great mass builder for a hardgainer like me.


Your 14 you dont need creatine, just take protein and a multi, and eat good and clean, strict diet. like the others said theres so much crap in celltech, you cant absorb it all. Im done wasting my money on name brands, im goin to good ol proven, studied micronized crea MONO

[~snake0]

GNC Creatine Monohydrate

[Sv87guS]

GNC Creatine Monohydrate

Just so you know you can Higher Power Creatine Monohydrate, From BB.com For 20 bucks, thats half the price of gnc's, and you get 22 more servings.

[boostedmkiii]

I have been using Nx Labs ANAVOL and have seen pretty good results. I like it over EAS mono...

[demon2488]

used cellmass for awhile got great gains the best ive tried so far (out of about 5)

[Viper1]

Had great gains with Cellmass and the jury is still out on Universal Storm.

[nhemmie7]

kinda new to all of the creatine but currently taking Controlled Labs Green Mag. bEFORE buying this i heard it was one of the best, any one on here ever try it before?

[youngbuck88]

Creatine ethyl ester

[Skull Crusher Chris]

kinda new to all of the creatine but currently taking Controlled Labs Green Mag. bEFORE buying this i heard it was one of the best, any one on here ever try it before?

I have;)

Definitely alot of good feedback on it:)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

kinda new to all of the creatine but currently taking Controlled Labs Green Mag. bEFORE buying this i heard it was one of the best, any one on here ever try it before?

you will love it, works great and probably the best TastinG supplement around :)

[le0pard]

Does anyone have an opinion on EAS Betagen?

I know with creatine you're supposed to load and all that, but since Betagen isn't solely creatine would you still load or would that be wasting the product?

[Skull Crusher Chris]

I know with creatine you're supposed to load and all that,

FYI, there is no need to load any type of creatine. Stick to 5g a day and no need to cycle.

[le0pard]

FYI, there is no need to load any type of creatine. Stick to 5g a day and no need to cycle.

I guess I don't know.. :)

Thanks for the response!

[MantisStriker]

i gotta admit cell tech did give me the fastest gains but it just makes you fatter i mean come one 75 g of sugar!! no wonder it seems like its working

[Sv87guS]

holy crap i know a guy that takes cell tech gained alot of water weight and fat, or either or. But im definately ordering green mag and white flood, you get four months out of green mag if i take it post wokrout at five days a week cant beat that price compared to cellmass, where if you take as directed a month at same price, go controlled labs im gonna kick my genetics in the a$$.

[miketl]

celltech does make you fat i tried it once wasnt to bad

[BIG CHUCKY]

six star muscle fuel hardcore strength fruit punch creatine or the pill form either one is good imo!

[cavs2321]

arnge krush is the best dumbell millitary press have gone from 35s to 50s in 3 weeks

[Bane667]

ive been on creakic tabs from muscletec for a month and ive never got such serious pumps and gains from normal creatine

[DANXXX]

I have used 2 different creatines, standard creatine mono stuff by endura (low key aussie brand) and BSN Cell Mass.

Mono = best results by far, great strength increase etc.

Cell Mass CEE = Never really did too much for anything except taste amazing.

I'm going to be trying out SizeOn and hope to expect some good results.

[Chase86]

I haven't tried any yet so I'm in here for an answer.

Seems like Celltech or Cellmass had many reviews so far, mostly good too.

I'd like to see some of the forums oldest members give their take here. Come on guys? Where are ya?

[Energeegod]

well, just finished my phosphagen elite - fruit punch


effective? well i ono... but it is a good flavor. and mixes easily.

[plasticbat]

I haven't tried any yet so I'm in here for an answer.

Seems like Celltech or Cellmass had many reviews so far, mostly good too.

I'd like to see some of the forums oldest members give their take here. Come on guys? Where are ya?

I agree with you on getting more opinions from some of the guys that have tried different brands and can compare for us. You would think this thread would be a little longer...

Cellmass, I don't have an opinion on from personal use but from what I've noticed its very pricey for the amount per serving compared to its competition. Celltech I would just stay away from, you could just buy a cheap mono and probably have the same results.

I'm also curious about the regular mono vs. the cee, anyone have any more suggestions on this?

[Skull Crusher Chris]

I'm also curious about the regular mono vs. the cee, anyone have any more suggestions on this?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3209281&highlight=cee

[Mike-311]

I use Balance Effervescent Creatine.
Cos I gives me an obvious energy and power boost as I walk into the gym, if I take it 5-10 mins before I start a workout.
Then I'll have the same amount again straight after. I dont know why I do that, just feels like the right thing to do, I spose.

[RatherBeLifting]

if we are going for price vs. results then I have to say EAS Phosphagen. Yes it is old as hell, but that does not make it a bad product.

[plasticbat]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3209281&highlight=cee

Thanks, I guess I should have looked a little harder...

[mkilla1214]

i was wondering y they dont sell creatine to 16 year old kids

[worby]

i use gaspari nutritions super pump 250, i wasnt sure weather or not it was going to work or if it was just a sales pitch but i'm proud to be stood corrected by the product this stuff really works, i found myself lifting up to 20% heavy in my regualr sets and ive been able to last through superset with ease. this stuff is like drinking 10 supercharged red bulls at once, this stuff keeps me buzzing for hours after i takeit. dont take this stuff within 4 hours of bedtime or ull be up all night.

[BIG CHUCKY]

six star muscle fuel creatine(fruit punch or pill) i used both and my arms traps and delts grew and got stronger quick as hell!

[PuffinMyLye]

When people refer to Creatine Monohydrate, is that a specific brand? Are you referring to this http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/creatine.html or are there Mono's made by many brands? If so what are the best?

[pittjoe33]

When people refer to Creatine Monohydrate, is that a specific brand? Are you referring to this http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/creatine.html or are there Mono's made by many brands? If so what are the best?

CM (Creatine Monohydrate) is creatine in it's purist form. It's inexpensive and can be taken with water or juice. I'm sure people will argue that different brands are better quality. They may be right. In my opinion, most brands are probably about the same (Twinlabs, Prolab, Higher Power, etc). The expensive creatines are blends of different forms of creatine such as CEE (Creatine Ethyl Ester), Krealkalyn, Conjugated Creatine, Creatine Citrate, etc. Look up articles on bb.com and read them. Look at forum posts and reviews. Try them and see what you think.

[PuffinMyLye]

CM (Creatine Monohydrate) is creatine in it's purist form. It's inexpensive and can be taken with water or juice. I'm sure people will argue that different brands are better quality. They may be right. In my opinion, most brands are probably about the same (Twinlabs, Prolab, Higher Power, etc). The expensive creatines are blends of different forms of creatine such as CEE (Creatine Ethyl Ester), Krealkalyn, Conjugated Creatine, Creatine Citrate, etc. Look up articles on bb.com and read them. Look at forum posts and reviews. Try them and see what you think.


Well I plan on taking Universal Torrent PWO so I'm looking for a mono to take on my off days. I guess it doesn't matter which brand I get.

[pittjoe33]

Well I plan on taking Universal Torrent PWO so I'm looking for a mono to take on my off days. I guess it doesn't matter which brand I get.

If you go to this link (then scroll down), you can punch in your weight, etc. It will tell you how much creatine to consume per day. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness2.htm

[teraflx]

When people refer to Creatine Monohydrate, is that a specific brand? Are you referring to this http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/creatine.html or are there Mono's made by many brands? If so what are the best?

They are made by a bunch of different brands. For me the best pricewise/results is prolab. Its damn cheap and works just like mono should. In my opinion all mono's are really the same. Your paying the extra for the brand/advertising and other vitamins ect they may put in it.

[Sonic KO]

ultimate nutritions crea pure. its just easy and it doesnt have much of any extra stuff added to it. and it was it is, it doesnt tell u it will make u bigger or any lies

[streetlethaleg6]

Cell Tech is such sh*t, I'm not sure if anyone had any experience with it, but it didn't help me out, no gain in muscle and little to no energy increase, and im on a very strict workout plan and diet. the only thing it did was give me acne. I strongly advise no one to waste their money on it

[gqsmooth29]

I used Cell-Tech in the past and It didnt do Jack Sh!t. Besides them raping you on your money for the product you loose time and effort from your workouts that could have been spent on a good product. I am currently using Nutrex Vitargo-CGL(spelling?). After the first week it give me a great pumps i felt fuller and my vascularity went through the roof. Not to mention in just one week i creased all my sets by 10lbs. Its not that bad in price I would say midrange $39.99. The only thing I noticed is you have to shake the hell out of it so it doesnt clump. I bought the Orange flavor its not bad either it taste like Tang if you ever had it.

[dadhas3kids]

N.O.XPLODE ALL THE WAY!!! Notmuch weight gain with huge strenth gains. great forcutting in my opinion.

[Blue Blazer]

N.O.XPLODE ALL THE WAY!!! Notmuch weight gain with huge strenth gains. great forcutting in my opinion.

Have you ever tried CellMass? I checked it out today and read that it was CEE?

Is it CEE or did I read it wrong lol (I just glampsed at the back)

Also, checked out "dat dere Cell-Tech"...was going to pick it up but I hard some bad things about it...

Is it a bad product???

JM

[boostedbatman]

Universal Storm is working well for me
I like a product that doesnt require loading

[Mugshot]

pickin up nitro tech for 20 bucks.

hopefully it's worth it

[Smithers111]

Universal Storm all the way. It might be expensive, but when it comes putting things in your body, you can't afford to put in cheap stuff...can you?

[Samsdaddy0525]

Universal Storm all the way. It might be expensive, but when it comes putting things in your body, you can't afford to put in cheap stuff...can you?


Storm is excellent and I would not say it is expensive at all. It sells for under $30 for 80 servings.

Creatine Monohydrate is still the very best and has the most legitimate research/studies to support that claim.

[MedicManJack]

I have to agree, Muscletech puts out a great product . Cell-tech hardcore.

Cell-Tech is an advanced creatine musclebuilder.

To quote the web-site

"Each serving of Cell-Tech Hardcore supplement provides an incredibly effective 10-gram dose of Crea-Edge? ? a potent blend of muscle building creatine that includes a precise portion of nanoparticulated creatine monohydrate as well as creatine alpha-ketoglutarate, tricreatine HCA, and even the most revolutionary form of creatine ? CREAKIC! Cell-Tech Hardcore is designed with a biomedical delivery system that begins with 75 grams of advanced, laboratory-grade dextrose. This precise amount of dextrose optimizes insulin response. Insulin is the key hormone for driving creatine into the muscles ? precisely where it needs to be to produce rapid results. Cell-Tech Hardcore also contains Lipoic-Tech? ? 200 milligrams of alpha lipoic acid to drive even more creatine into the muscles."


It seems to tgive me a great pump and definately noticable gains in terms of strength.

[misterchristian]

My order of Green Bulge should be coming anyday now. I cant wait to try it. I all but gave up on Creatine after my experience w/ Cell-Tech. Cell-Tech was so gross, I felt like a bloated manatee carcass on it. Hope the Green Bulge goes a little better.

[gort23]

any thoughts on Kre-Alkalyn caps?

[Chase86]

Just picked of a bottle of GNC's Creatine Monohydrate capsules.

I know I know you could have gotten X brand with X more servings for 1/2 the price. I was in there b/c they had Pro Complex Gainer on sale, so i picked up a bottle of Creatine Monohydrate.

Anyways, I'm pretty excited. The directions say take 5 capsules after your work out with 12floz of water.

I'll come in here and post my results, any changes at all.

[RDE89]

For me its scifit kre alkalyn 1500 caps
Reason? It works...

[Chase86]

For me its scifit kre alkalyn 1500 caps
Reason? It works...

Anything else to add to your review? How long have you taken it? How much are you taking? Cycles? Results?

[JamesJJk]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/microcrea.htm
So is a micronized creatine product better to use than a creatine monohydrate product?

[Sv87guS]

monohydrates are great, but the water retention and bloat gets yea, thats really the only plus to the CEE's and things like that. im goin to green mag now but, and as for celltech, all muscletech products suck in my mind they think the more the better, and the acne more and likely because celltech has 75 grams of sugar per serving, so its not just muscle thats helpin put on.

[Gorkk]

Phosphagen Elite... very good product

also try Betagen

[quent14]

My order of Green Bulge should be coming anyday now. I cant wait to try it. I all but gave up on Creatine after my experience w/ Cell-Tech. Cell-Tech was so gross, I felt like a bloated manatee carcass on it. Hope the Green Bulge goes a little better.

Haha yeah I agree misterchristian. Cell-Tech bloats me like none other...I hate that crap! The front says gain 7 lbs in 7 days...anybody in their right mind knows that?s completely obscured. But with that aside, what bulking you do achieve comes from the tremendous overload of simple sugars (75 grams worth), and of course the creatine, that you get from just one serving. If you do the loading phase, which is also ridiculous, than you?re actually getting 150g simple carbs daily from just cell-tech alone.

[TA01]

I am looking to try size-on for my next creatine product. I am unsure on what flavor to get. I am leaning towards either grape or lemon ice. Does anyone have any input on size-on as a creatine product and also the flavor?

[MassManiac]

Been using cell tech hardcore for like 6 months --- and it tastes great. I can say that it has definately had a good effect. And to rebut, the claims of bloating these others proclaim --- i also take a double scoop 18 - 20 ounces whey protein, 5 seconds after i drink down the cell tech.

Those who see no gain with creatine are most likely in the 90% of bodybuilders who don't have a strict and high protein diet. Creatine only works to its fullest potential when you supply the necessary nutrients to your body -- as creatine is essentially a cell volumizer..........not a strength product

creakic is another good choice too --- and that can be taken along with some simple sugars or something like 'anator p 70'

[JamesJJk]

Is anyone able to recommend a particular creatine brand/product for a first time user?

[TA01]

"I am looking to try size-on for my next creatine product. I am unsure on what flavor to get. I am leaning towards either grape or lemon ice. Does anyone have any input on size-on as a creatine product and also the flavor?"




bump

[MassManiac]

creatine is creatine james----

but keep in mind -- it works best when taken with 50-75 g of simple sugar like dextrose or glucose --- and is most efficiently used by taking 50g of an easily digestible whey protein with it..........

so any that catches your eye ----

like i said, i use the cell tech hardcore because it already has those simple sugar in it, along with other insulin boosters

creakic is a new product and revolutionary in it absorbtion improvements

gl

[wascher]

mono serum all the way

[wascher]

Is anyone able to recommend a particular creatine brand/product for a first time user?

i've used ATP creatine serum it's mono creatine so its the best.
it's cheap and a couple drops under the tounge and you're set.
no loading, no drinking
flavor-wise i get cherry

[garn]

mono serum all the way

after all of the posted studies and info on this forum, I find it hard to believe that anyone still buys this stuff.

I can't believe it's still sold, lol..

[JamesJJk]

Well as a first time user I want to start off with trying a creatine monohydrate brand/product. I've read that both Prolab Creatine and AST Micronized Creatine would be perfect for starting off on. I just now have to make my decision...

[garn]

Well as a first time user I want to start off with trying a creatine monohydrate brand/product. I've read that both Prolab Creatine and AST Micronized Creatine would be perfect for starting off on. I just now have to make my decision...

I just ordered a tub of Ultimate Nutrition CreaPure Micronized CM

cheaper than AST, micronized, and creapure

[JamesJJk]

Damn, that's a great price and it also gets high reviews. I hate having so many choices to pick from... I can't make up my mind.

[Hengman]

I like Gaspari.

**** kicks in quick, that's why.

But then, I'm laying off creatine. ****'s ****in' with my kidneys now. I hate the cramps that I had from creatine.

[TA01]

I like Gaspari.

**** kicks in quick, that's why.

But then, I'm laying off creatine. ****'s ****in' with my kidneys now. I hate the cramps that I had from creatine.

What is the best flavor?

[Hengman]

What is the best flavor?
lol

I like the grape, but then again, I really don't taste the creatine when making shakes.

[mg42]

i used to use sizeon. tastes good and gives good strength gains, i dont think it was worth the $45 though . i think i am going to try some prolabs creatine instead and see if that works. any other sizeon users have any comments on sizeon vs. any other good mono creatines.

[RDE89]

Anything else to add to your review? How long have you taken it? How much are you taking? Cycles? Results?

I'm on third bottle now. 1 pre wo 1 post wo, you don't cycle kre alk. 5lbs gain, more muscularity and MORE vascularity!! And strenght gain is incredible!!

[¡STFU!ˇNˆLIFT!]

Fellas from the tests done in the creatine toxins article - does anyone know which were the purest ?
They show the numbers but no names

[gqsmooth29]

Is anyone able to recommend a particular creatine brand/product for a first time user?

Creatine is all in all what you make of it. As you see on this spread. Every 1 has their own opinions. There are no good and bad for starters. Your body is going to acheive different results on different products then Joe Blow Body builder down the street.

I currently use Vitargo-CGL Creatine. I have seen awesome size/strength gains. I have only used it for 2 months and have jumped about 20pounds in all my maxes.

My advise is to research all the products on this spread that people have to offer.

[TA01]

Has anyone else tried Sizeon grape? I just don't want to spend 40 bucks and the grape taste like rust.

[jasoninjapan]

Has anyone else tried Sizeon grape? I just don't want to spend 40 bucks and the grape taste like rust.

I've tried it and I didn't think it tasted all that great honestly. It is however a good product. I had some really good gains. The taste.... eh, 5 out of 10. I took it about 8 months ago, so they may have made some alterations to the flavors. Anyone know?

[Hengman]

I've tried it and I didn't think it tasted all that great honestly. It is however a good product. I had some really good gains. The taste.... eh, 5 out of 10. I took it about 8 months ago, so they may have made some alterations to the flavors. Anyone know?
lol

Why would the taste matter in the first place?

You wouldn't really taste it if you just mixed it with something (protein shakes, etc.). Personally, I don't really like the taste (but it's the best flavor that sizeon has in my opinion), but if you want to grow big, you take that **** regardless, right?

[istocknugz]

i have a question that has been asked multiple times, but even with the use of a search button, has not come to a conclusive ending: say i would like to take 5g of micronized creatine pre-wkout and 5 more post wkout but im afraid to shoot 50g of sugar into my body b/c of my diet; is there any insulin mimicker that will help the uptake of insulin, or is it a sick joke? please let me know so i can order my tub!

[wtfmate08]

i have a question that has been asked multiple times, but even with the use of a search button, has not come to a conclusive ending: say i would like to take 5g of micronized creatine pre-wkout and 5 more post wkout but im afraid to shoot 50g of sugar into my body b/c of my diet; is there any insulin mimicker that will help the uptake of insulin, or is it a sick joke? please let me know so i can order my tub!

As far as I am aware, the creatine you take pre/PWO isn't absorbed ASAP. Your cells have to be saturated with it, hence the loading stage. So the creatine you take pre WO is NOT the creatine that is used during the workout. Besides, 5g is all you should need in one day.

[DANXXX]

Yeh 5g a day has been proven to keep cells saturated etc.

[pittjoe33]

As far as I am aware, the creatine you take pre/PWO isn't absorbed ASAP. Your cells have to be saturated with it, hence the loading stage. So the creatine you take pre WO is NOT the creatine that is used during the workout. Besides, 5g is all you should need in one day.

There's always conflict over loading. 5 grams per day after loading is what is the norm. So many people also say that loading isn't necessary and that you can just go with 5g/per day. Who knows.

[RDE89]

There's always conflict over loading. 5 grams per day after loading is what is the norm. So many people also say that loading isn't necessary and that you can just go with 5g/per day. Who knows.

I use scifit kre alkalyn and no loading needed, give it a try bro, its great!

[rwebb11]

Cellmass worked good for me...great gains that stayed on...but still a little pricey so I just ordered Higher Powers mono creatine. Anyone have any experience with it?

[pittjoe33]

Cellmass worked good for me...great gains that stayed on...but still a little pricey so I just ordered Higher Powers mono creatine. Anyone have any experience with it?

I used Higher Power Creatine Monohydrate a couple of years ago. Just follow the directions on the bottle and consume extra water throughout each day. Take it with grape juice. There's a loading stage, then I believe you consume 5g per day. Pretty straight forward. I'm going to be trying a new product (Con-Cret). It's conjugated creatine. No loading needed and very small dosages. It's very pricey though. Around $70 at GNC. The stack I will try after this product will be Gaspari SuperPump 250, SizeOn and Novedex XT.

[fredarn]

AST creatine HSC have given me best results, it works much better then just micronized creatine.

[Crowww]

Cell Tech for me as well, but I do get a little bloated after use.

[chad2216]

Cost effective - supposedly provides greater absorption

[jemdawg]

After reading all the studies and reading reviews, I find it impossible that the weight of user is never considered?? Is 5g per day enough for someone weighing 175lbs, or someone weighing 250lbs? Hard to believe if 5g is enough to maintain someone with 33% less muscle mass there could be the same saturation. Or is it that 5g is WAY overkill for someone of lesser weight and just excreted?

Therefore, my product review is not accurate until this piece is considered as well...

[huskers1]

I just tried this stuff a few months ago after my buddy told me about it. It's still new but this stuff is awesome!! I have tried many different Creatine products over the years and this one definitely stands out! Why?
1. Micro-doses--1/4 teaspoon per 100 lbs of body weight
2. I didn't have any typical creatine side effects-diahrea etc..
3. Great results quickly without loading--I saw results in the first few weeks and my recovery was quick.
4. Energy--I am a mad-man in the weight room. I can't put the weights down!!
Try-it!

[The Brotherhood]

I just tried this stuff a few months ago after my buddy told me about it. It's still new but this stuff is awesome!! I have tried many different Creatine products over the years and this one definitely stands out! Why?
1. Micro-doses--1/4 teaspoon per 100 lbs of body weight
2. I didn't have any typical creatine side effects-diahrea etc..
3. Great results quickly without loading--I saw results in the first few weeks and my recovery was quick.
4. Energy--I am a mad-man in the weight room. I can't put the weights down!!
Try-it!

Creatine monohydrate doses are hardly inconvenient
Diahrea is not a typical creatine side effect if used properly
Monohydrate does not need to be loaded
Creatine does nothing to energize you. Placebo effect much :rolleyes:


Cost effective - supposedly provides greater absorption

Greater than 100% saturation at a 3-5g dose? Wow! That beats the laws of mathematics :eek: :rolleyes:


I use scifit kre alkalyn and no loading needed, give it a try bro, its great!

Monohydrate does not need to be loaded

[micdaddy]

My vote is for AST Micronized Creatine taken with their DGC, or their combined product.

[surferbuild]

This product seems to have creatine and the NO to provide an energy boost for your workout. Is this a good source of creatine? I have started using the product and it does seem to provide energy for the workout but it does not recommend loading and I was wondering whether it was the best source of creatine?

[JustiNtense]

For price and servings i would have to say Storm, second being Green Magnitude. If you have the cash Size-on, never tried but my friend/workout partner went through a bottle and it did him well.

[mattone74]

Despite some of the negative things said about Creatine Ethel Ester , I tried Axis Labs and had great results , increased strength and put on 4 kg. Just landed another lot yesterday so looking forward to another cycle. Have tried normal creatine once with no effect, I guess ever body reacts different.

Also see some people mentioning creatine serum, didn't think creatine was stable in liquid form. Also a consumer TV show here in NZ tested that liquid creatine and found it had nothing like the amount that it quoted on its label.

[tiny_ali]

hi guys..im Ali frm Pakistan, I use creatine mono by PRolab solutions..is that any good?? i took it for 3 days..felt OK and did lift a little more weight..however a frend of mine tells me that i need to take in like 6litres of water(like 3 or 4 gallons)..every day! he also said i shall not take it and i didnt..he has used it before..his body is totally unshaped though and a piece of crap..so please guide me people..i will be so thankful!

[rwebb11]

I used Prolab about two years ago and had good results with it. 3 to 4 gallons of water is much more than you need however, about one gallon or 8-10 glasses of water a day should be fine. If you don't drink enough it can really make you feel pretty crappy. I also experienced the occasional stomache cramps, diarhea, and some bloating but that's normal with all monohydrate. But all in all it did help a lot and i experienced gains I probably wouldn't have gottin without it.

[Chuilli]

the combo of BSN NO XPLODE AND CELLMASS MADE ME BLOW UP.....

[jeo140]

anyone have reviews or opinions on the concrete creatine

[JamesJJk]

the combo of BSN NO XPLODE AND CELLMASS MADE ME BLOW UP.....
In a good or bad way...? ;/

[Lucky_ROA]

Controlled Labs - Green MAGnitude !

[rwebb11]

Any one try Higher Power's Creatine Ethyl Ester? Just bought their Micronized Creatine and was wondering whether I shouldve spent the extra $ for the CEE.

[acenos]

I go to vitamon world at the begining of the month where they have buy one get one free. They make their own products as well as brands like metrx. Their creatine is good, and I get the esterfied creatine. Their stuff is just as good as the other heavily marketed crap thats out there.

[Blue Blazer]

I am looking for a good creatine monohydrate...I was leaning towards something like Green Magnitude, but the closest supps store to home doesn't carry Controlled Labs stuff..

She carries Muscletech products, BSN, ON, some Ultimate Nutrition, PVL, CytoSport and a few others...

Sorry to hijack the thread..JM

[Wooly_Ace]

I like it because it works. I didn't have to load my system and I could actually see and feel results after only a couple of weeks. It's unflavored and is a great value.

[tiny_ali]

I used Prolab about two years ago and had good results with it. 3 to 4 gallons of water is much more than you need however, about one gallon or 8-10 glasses of water a day should be fine. If you don't drink enough it can really make you feel pretty crappy. I also experienced the occasional stomache cramps, diarhea, and some bloating but that's normal with all monohydrate. But all in all it did help a lot and i experienced gains I probably wouldn't have gottin without it.


thanks fer the the help myan that was gr8..cud u tellme how much CReaTINE 2 use .. shall i use it ONCE or TWICE a day? and when like BEFORE or AFTER the workout?? thanks guyz y'all r gr8

[Running1spirit]

SAN's v-12 Turbo

1. alittle to no water weight and I kept about 85% of the weight gained after I went off of it
2. makes my veins JUMP OUT like crazy, great for vascularity
3. gave me great strength increases, lifted more than I could ever imagine and kept the gains after I was off it
4. the fruit punch tasted WONDERFUL, would drink it for fun
5. inexpensive on bb.com compared to other places
6. made me look fuller and I felt bigger in the mirror


YEP!! ;)

[RawDawgKing]

AST Micronized Creatine

[tianianrian]

IMO logic and reasonable creatine is kre alkalyn.
Up to you what brand is.
About 2 weeks ago, i read about artificial kidney on human because kidney's failure (i think). and i was surprised because the cause was creatinine and some phospate compound and N compound.

Attention : That creatinine is by side product of creatine consumption. not only because creatine consumption, but may be from eat red meat, and also because our body produce creatine itself. But thanks to the Lord, that He created us with enough creatine in our body. And He knows that from our normal food on our surrounding , we have enough creatine in our body

For bodybuilder ,i think is logical to add some creatine to get some muscle though amino acid itself (from whey shake i mean or some amino product) if react could produce creatine, but i think because maybe in some situation the condition on our stomach often changed that cause the reaction is not properly , pure creatine is added ( imo kre alkalyn is pure creatine either mono but the later is good before touch the liquid)
I have chemistry background and a chemical engineering college. and learn some mass transfer any chemical compounds either in daily life application (include industry) or in human body, though i'm sure the later, medicine college is best.
i am not jeff golini salesman, but i only say that after i read his article form get krealkalyn site, and if you download his brochure and free creatine book (about 2,35 MB if i am not wrong) you should at least accept his reason.
The fantastic was : His research when by analytic device analyze various creatine and it's contain. He (jeff golini) have evidence by his research.
it's my own risk if he lie.hehehe :). but now, i still accept his reason

Look at this :
A + B ...> P + W ...> = mean react
P = product
W = waste or if not waste, the undesired compound .
and in certain condition may be A + B can not react depend your compound in your body. if all the A + B react apply for any compounds all we will die.hehehe..:). Again, thanks the Lord :)
But the odds ingredients like the supplements manufacturer do may be react one another to produce some dangerous compounds. because it's not natural and crazy.

From my experience : All the creatine works .
if you drink 2 red bulls energy drink, it still works hehehe, ...:)
I have workout and i have take kre alkalyn and simply i say it works. but remember off and take again, off and take again, so your body always respond to your natural creatine production. ( if tihis is still controversial .it;s better and wiser than you take it continuosly )

And form illustration above, it's clearly that among the compounds , there are
some competition.
A + C ..> P + W so where the B has gone..?
so,it's better to take creatine alone.


i read one product and contain almost all creatine and contain thermogenesis too, very very odd. . it's not logic to have 74 ingredients and hope maximal result for all the ingredients. it's funny. and addition it can react one another to produce some stranger compounds again. hehehe..
you can not have yor kidney workout hehehe:), do you? you have some muscle but your kidney and your liver blow down and you have call 911 to take you in ICU units in hospital.hehehe:) and have kidney some transplantation and take some drugs for long day so your body not reject your new stranger kidney.

So be wiser.


all the best
tian.

[D-town=no good]

I've used Cell mass and Cell Tech both recently. I like cell mass' portions better + the taste is better than Celltech, but I put on a lot more weight using celltech.... I know a lot of its water, but I feel for bulking purposes celltech is the way to go.

[ncfire1]

I'd have to say the best I've found is called Con-Cret. It's simple to use and only takes 1/4 Teaspoon per 100 lbs of body weight. It mixes well with grape juice, apple juice or if you like just plain water.

Try it... you'll like it!!

[tiny_ali]

dude plz help me u guyz.im just a starter! iv been weightliftin fer like 3months..so is creatine a good option for me..is creatine a WEIGHT GAINER or is it for gettin lean and cuttings!?? plz help im distraught..i use prolabs creatine mono..1 time per day..

[pittjoe33]

dude plz help me u guyz.im just a starter! iv been weightliftin fer like 3months..so is creatine a good option for me..is creatine a WEIGHT GAINER or is it for gettin lean and cuttings!?? plz help im distraught..i use prolabs creatine mono..1 time per day..

With any creatine or Nitric Oxide (NO2) products, you should drink 1-2 gallons of water per day. 3-4 is insane. You'd be in the bathroom more than the gym. Consume about 5g of creatine either in one dose or split it and take twice per day. Take it with grape juice. It will boost your insulin levels and provide a better transport mechanism than just water. Eat 4-6 small meals per day consisting of chicken/fish/lean beef and a small amount of complex carbohydrates (baked potato, rice, whole wheat bread, etc.) Consume 1 gram op protein per pound of body weight per day in the form of lean meats, poultry and fish, or whey protein. Use a casein protein at night for slow digestion and filling muscles while not eating. Take a good multi-vitamin such as GNC Megaman. Creatine will add a little size and strength, but will not get you lean or cut. Lean or cut comes from cardio training, strict diet, weight training and fat burners if wanted. If you want some extra umph, try gaspari SuperPump 250 and Sizon, or BSN NO-Xplode and CellMass and follow the instructions exactly as is on the label. Hope this helps.

[pittjoe33]

dude plz help me u guyz.im just a starter! iv been weightliftin fer like 3months..so is creatine a good option for me..is creatine a WEIGHT GAINER or is it for gettin lean and cuttings!?? plz help im distraught..i use prolabs creatine mono..1 time per day..

One last thought. You may also want to add ribose, glutomine, and flaxseed oil to you arsenal. On bodybuilding.com, click on articles, then look at the categories. Click on creatine and read about it. Type in ribose, glutomine, etc. Reading about the supplements and trying on your own is how you'll learn what works for you and what it does.

[o0hardcore0o]

It works well and give me drive in the gym but it taste so bad. i'll buy BSN Cellmass next time.

[pittjoe33]

It works well and give me drive in the gym but it taste so bad. i'll buy BSN Cellmass next time.

I was sent a sample of the revised version (Exotic Fruit flavor). I wouldn't say that it is delicious, but it is a very good improvement over the original. If you like NO-Shotgun, try the Exotic Fruit Flavor. BSN and Gaspari both have great products as well. I'd say these 3 (VPX, Gaspari, BSN) are the best for creatine/NO2. Gaspari will be putting out PlasmaJet within the next 1-3 months and should be the BEST! There are also creatine/NO2 products without stimulants though if you don't like that.

[darkcami]

I just ordered some Cell-Tech form Muscletech and for the 6.7Ib jug it only cost 44 bucks. So those out there saying they are over priced, i just reply, that the interenet is a very vast place and you can find many products for cheap. Anywho. I'm going to waiting for this one in the mail and once i start taking it for a week or so i'll post my thoughts on it.

[pittjoe33]

I just ordered some Cell-Tech form Muscletech and for the 6.7Ib jug it only cost 44 bucks. So those out there saying they are over priced, i just reply, that the interenet is a very vast place and you can find many products for cheap. Anywho. I'm going to waiting for this one in the mail and once i start taking it for a week or so i'll post my thoughts on it.

I used Cell-Tech a while ago and it worked good as well. Regardless of the bad press, I like it. As far as the price goes, it is expensive. It's not the size, it's the number of servings vs. the cost. Cell-Tech is 2 servings for 5 days, then 1 serving per day. The 30 servings lasts 25 days and is $41-$45 plus shipping. Gaspari SizeOn is 1 serving per day if working out later in the day and lasts 30 days for around $41 plus shipping. BSN CellMass has 40 servings and is taken 2X's per day and will last 20 days. It is around $32 plus shipping. Then there are several other products that are much lass money.

[luisayala]

can i use creatine to help me build muscle while loosing weight.
any help would be helpful
thanks

[pittjoe33]

can i use creatine to help me build muscle while loosing weight.
any help would be helpful
thanks

Depending on the type of creatine, the only real negative is that some experience a little bloating. Creatine is a cell volumizing supplement that fills your muscles to give you more size and hopefully strength and can lead to more muscle stamina and recovery. I wouldn't think in terms of losing weight, but rather losing fat, gaining muscle, and toning/shaping your body. You could lose 5 pounds of fat, gain 5 pounds of lean muscle mass and not lose weight. I think I get what you mean though. Just eat several small meals per day- this way your body doesn't store what it doesn't need as fat and will increase your metabolism. Drink 1-2 gallons of water per day, up the cardio work, then you get some size and lose fat. Hope this helps.

[big-bo-e]

im new to the whole creatine kick but where im at u only have bsn or cell-tech which is better

[Veedub]

San V12 Turbo or San HP444 have worked very well for me. I low carb permanently so this juice gives me an extra kick in the gym that I need. I only use it on weight or cardio days.

[pittjoe33]

im new to the whole creatine kick but where im at u only have bsn or cell-tech which is better

I have tried a lot of NO2 and creatine products. Most, not all have worked well for me. It depends on if you like a stimulant or not to help eliminate which ones are best for you. For NO2, I like VPX NO-Shotgun, BSN NO-Xplode, and Gaspari SuperPump 250. The VPX also contains creatine. For Creatine, I like VPX XEX, Garpari SizeOn, MuscleTech Cell-Tech, and BSN CellMass. A lot of people really like VPX Redline as an energy stimulant/fat burner, and it is also contained in NO-Shotgun. I like NO-Shotgun but I don't like Redline. I don't like the way that it makes me feel. I don't believe that you can go wrong with any of these products that I mentioned, it's a personal choice.

[pittjoe33]

San V12 Turbo or San HP444 have worked very well for me. I low carb permanently so this juice gives me an extra kick in the gym that I need. I only use it on weight or cardio days.

I used the V12 Turbo a while back and it worked fine for me. I have not tried (I believe it's HP844) but it sounds like a nice product.

[darkcami]

I used Cell-Tech a while ago and it worked good as well. Regardless of the bad press, I like it. As far as the price goes, it is expensive. It's not the size, it's the number of servings vs. the cost. Cell-Tech is 2 servings for 5 days, then 1 serving per day. The 30 servings lasts 25 days and is $41-$45 plus shipping. Gaspari SizeOn is 1 serving per day if working out later in the day and lasts 30 days for around $41 plus shipping. BSN CellMass has 40 servings and is taken 2X's per day and will last 20 days. It is around $32 plus shipping. Then there are several other products that are much lass money.

aww yes. i didn't take the servings into consideration but that does make sense. But i always so to people who take about some things being overpriced. I like saying is it worth a few extra bucks to experiment with a product to see if it has a great positive gain for you? But i'm glad it worked well for you.

And after taking it did you lose alot of weight (well i know you did cuz of the water retention) but did you lose any muscle gains your experience while on the Cell-Tech?

[pittjoe33]

aww yes. i didn't take the servings into consideration but that does make sense. But i always so to people who take about some things being overpriced. I like saying is it worth a few extra bucks to experiment with a product to see if it has a great positive gain for you? But i'm glad it worked well for you.

And after taking it did you lose alot of weight (well i know you did cuz of the water retention) but did you lose any muscle gains your experience while on the Cell-Tech?

It's been the same with each. I use an NO2 and Creatine product for 4-8 weeks, then take 2-4 weeks off. During the off time I usually lose about 4 pounds and don't look as swollen or vascular, which is a bummer. I try to experiment after cycles with taking more protein, glutamine, ribose, test boosters, etc.

[Veedub]

I used the V12 Turbo a while back and it worked fine for me. I have not tried (I believe it's HP844) but it sounds like a nice product.

Yes sorry about the typo. HP844 is good and I'm two weeks into a cycle with it now but so far it does not give me the same focused buzz that I got with V12 Turbo. Having said that I've not been 100% health wise the last couple of weeks so my workouts have been a bit on the tarty side. I expect I'll get more out of the 844 when I'm firing on all cylinders again and I'm planning to stack it with Maximuscles NO2 which should be fun.

BSN NO-Xplode was ok but it sat on my gut during a couple of workouts making me feel bloated which is not fun when squatting.

[pittjoe33]

Yes sorry about the typo. HP844 is good and I'm two weeks into a cycle with it now but so far it does not give me the same focused buzz that I got with V12 Turbo. Having said that I've not been 100% health wise the last couple of weeks so my workouts have been a bit on the tarty side. I expect I'll get more out of the 844 when I'm firing on all cylinders again and I'm planning to stack it with Maximuscles NO2 which should be fun.

BSN NO-Xplode was ok but it sat on my gut during a couple of workouts making me feel bloated which is not fun when squatting.

Keep an eye out for Gaspari PlasmaJet, which will be coming out some time within the next 2-3 months I'm told. I don't have details on the product, other than it's suppose to be a sustained release NO2 product that far exceeds anything in it's class. Time and testing will tell.

[Beast912]

I use CE2 it works great for me and there is now cycling off thats awesome my strengh has been steadily increasing but i have been wanting to switch up so i may give that Size On a try

[Beast912]

Animal Matrix is also Amazing i really liked that on i used it for 2 cycles and my strenght was way up i was repping out sets of 10 with the 150lbs on Flat bench dumbells

[Walis]

I used three types of creatine (all mono)
1) Universal Creatine (don`t remember it`s name) had side effects. I had a huge headache.
2) Crea Pure was quite good
3) The last 2 times I have used Nature's Best Creatine Monohydrate. I had very good results. It easily dissolves in water, not like Universal which I had trouble dissolving in water.

Now I`m thinking of trying something new.
Kre-Alkalyn
I anyone has any experience with it. Please post it :)
Those advertisements really get me wondering :D

[dogmai69]

hi
just wondering what, if any, the difference between creatine capsules/tablets and powder.

i find tablets or capsules would be more convenient to me but do they work as well?

[pennflyangler]

Guys, when I first started using Nitrix in my BSN Stack, I was taking Animal PAks which contains glutamic acid which I believe is a precursor to glutamine. If you take more than 10 grams of glutamine a day, which isnt hard to do, the Nitrix wont work. I know cuz for the first 4-5 weeks I didnt feel a perpetual pump as advertised. once I got off animal paks I started to feel it. You get glutamine from protein drinks, milk, and some multi-vitamins. So if your doing that stack, watch your glutamine intake or you'll be pissing your hard earned money away!

[FTWZB]

Higher Power Micronized Creatine

It's pharmacutical grade creatine monohydrate, which is a proven winner in bodybuilding. Plus Higher Power sells is for relatively inexpensive prices.

[McCrary]

yea monohydrate.....no matter what you get DONT get Muscletech creakic....its a waste of your money.....check the feedback on it

[NHBBareKnuckler]

NOW Foods Monohydrate.
10 bucks an LBS lol can't go wrong.

[o0hardcore0o]

I was sent a sample of the revised version (Exotic Fruit flavor). I wouldn't say that it is delicious, but it is a very good improvement over the original. If you like NO-Shotgun, try the Exotic Fruit Flavor. BSN and Gaspari both have great products as well. I'd say these 3 (VPX, Gaspari, BSN) are the best for creatine/NO2. Gaspari will be putting out PlasmaJet within the next 1-3 months and should be the BEST! There are also creatine/NO2 products without stimulants though if you don't like that.

where can I find the new flavour? I'm in Canada

[pittjoe33]

where can I find the new flavour? I'm in Canada

The flavor is exotic fruit. I'm not sure who carries that flavor at this time. bb.com doesn't show the flavor. I received the sample from vpx- I believe it's vpxsports.com. Check w/ bb.com to see if they have it yet.

[And055]

Just plain creatine monohydrate gets it done for me. Prolab's SKW Creapure I used to get at $20 for 2lbs so it lasts forever. I still haven't finish mine yet.

[Willdabear]

Sizeon or green mag? both have excellent reviews im currently taking arnge krush preworkout and i was thinking of adding in some green mag/sizeon right after i finish a lift.

thoughts? opinions?
thanks
WDB

[pittjoe33]

Sizeon or green mag? both have excellent reviews im currently taking arnge krush preworkout and i was thinking of adding in some green mag/sizeon right after i finish a lift.

thoughts? opinions?
thanks
WDB

Are you thinking of adding in green mag and sizeon? Either will be good. I prefer Sizeon if it's one or the other. But I wouldn't do both at the same time. For the prices, it's a waste of money. They are both creatine products and Sizeon would be enough. Try one, then take a break, try the other. See which worked best for you.

[Willdabear]

nah just one or the other - i found some descent threads already thanks - lol search function

[Anabolic Izzy]

Cellmass by BSN is by far the best creatine

[Big Guy 0861]

Anyone else prefer Anavol. It's worked great for me.

[Blue Blazer]

Cellmass by BSN is by far the best creatine

Is CellMass CEE? Or is it a creatine monohydrate?

[pittjoe33]

Is CellMass CEE? Or is it a creatine monohydrate?

CEE - Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate

[KrazyKevin]

I just ordered ABB Crea-Force monohydrate. Although for some reason bodybuilding.com doesn't show that it's micronized on the product page...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/abb/crea.html
Even though it is...
http://www.americanbodybuilding.com/v1/about/press/he/crea-force.jpg

Update: I emailed support and let them know.

[rwebb11]

I'm 2 weeks into Higher Power's Micronized. So far pretty good results and not much side effects.

[DONIV]

can anyone recommend the best way to load using AST Micronized Creatine???

[7Steve77]

can anyone recommend the best way to load using AST Micronized Creatine???

Mix 1 heaping teaspoon in 8 to 10 ounces of water or juice. Drink immediately.

To maximize results, drink 8 to 10 8-ounce glasses of water daily.

Loading Phase
Day 1 through 5: Take 1 heaping teaspoon 4 to 6 times daily.

Maintenance Phase
Day 6 forward: Take 1 heaping teaspoon twice daily.

[7Steve77]

Universal Storm

Great price and does the job.

[FTWZB]

can anyone recommend the best way to load using AST Micronized Creatine???

Don't load it. It gets stored in your muscles no matter what. Even if you stop, it stays in the muscles for about a week. 5-10 grams a day is all you need. Don't waste your money.

[Ryan314]

I am on CellMass right now, but I'm thinking about changing to a different creatine.

I am looking into getting Green Mag.

Thoughts?

[KrazyKevin]

A little of topic but I read that drinking creatine with certain types of juice like grapefruit or orange juice is bad because the juice turns the creatine into creatinine due to the acidity.
"When exposed to an acidic environment or moisture for a long time, creatine will begin to break down into worthless creatinine."

[pittjoe33]

A little of topic but I read that drinking creatine with certain types of juice like grapefruit or orange juice is bad because the juice turns the creatine into creatinine due to the acidity.
"When exposed to an acidic environment or moisture for a long time, creatine will begin to break down into worthless creatinine."

You can take creatine with water, but to raise insulin levels and provide a good transport system, it's best to take creatine with a non-acidic juice such as apple or grape juice.

[KrazyKevin]

Thanks pittjoe33. Good to know.

[Mr.Brently]

Dymatize "Expand" gave me mad pumps and lots of energy in the gym. Felt stronger and more able all around

[Mr.Brently]

You can take creatine with water, but to raise insulin levels and provide a good transport system, it's best to take creatine with a non-acidic juice such as apple or grape juice.

I thought this post was strictly about which creatine you preferr and why, not how to use and when???

[bcd1983]

EAS phosphagen, the original, haven't tried the Elite. i **** you all not, i notcied a difference in strength and visible size THAT DAY. plus it tastes good. plus the phosphagen's cheap. i like the old school EAS monohydrate plain powder too. i'm currently not using any supplements but when i start again (once my routine is dialed in and i feel i'm giving it my all) i am going to mix my loading dosages in a gallon of crystal light and just sip it throughout the day. it's cheap and doesn't have a bunch of things you don't need. just the goods.

[cincolax3]

is cell tech or size on a better creatine

[rizzog466]

is cell tech or size on a better creatine

I think the general consensus on here would be size-on :D

[Mr.Brently]

Anything by Muscle Tech is crap if you ask me

[Kitchen_EMS]

size on ftw

[600538411]

I love SAN fierce, it just gets me in the zone for the whole session and has nearly all actives and no filler crap, good value for money

[pittjoe33]

I think the general consensus on here would be size-on :D

SizeOn and CellMass...

[LittleGuy1980]

So I'm looking for a creatine that I can start taking. So far from this form it seems to me that MuscleTech sucks and everyone else takes something diffrent. Hmmm still have no idea what's good any idea's guys like do I realy need to drink it? Can't I take a pill? I was hopping to see posts about how long you been taking and how much of a gain you made! More info would be great thanks

[pittjoe33]

So I'm looking for a creatine that I can start taking. So far from this form it seems to me that MuscleTech sucks and everyone else takes something diffrent. Hmmm still have no idea what's good any idea's guys like do I realy need to drink it? Can't I take a pill? I was hopping to see posts about how long you been taking and how much of a gain you made! More info would be great thanks

If you want to go cheap and see how it works and would rather go with pills, go to Walmart and buy Six-Star Nitric Oxide and Six-Star Professional Creatine. See how that goes. For a first time using and want to try a powder (if you like it with stimulants) try BSN NO-Xplode and BSN CellMass. You really can't go wrong. I would recommend Gaspari SuperPump 250 and SizeOn, but a lot of people complain of getting the craps on SuperPump. Hope this helps.

[LittleGuy1980]

If you want to go cheap and see how it works and would rather go with pills, go to Walmart and buy Six-Star Nitric Oxide and Six-Star Professional Creatine. See how that goes. For a first time using and want to try a powder (if you like it with stimulants) try BSN NO-Xplode and BSN CellMass. You really can't go wrong. I would recommend Gaspari SuperPump 250 and SizeOn, but a lot of people complain of getting the craps on SuperPump. Hope this helps.

Alright but does one or the other work better. I mean pills or powder? And when should I take it before workout or after. Sorry damn newby here.

[pittjoe33]

Alright but does one or the other work better. I mean pills or powder? And when should I take it before workout or after. Sorry damn newby here.

In my opinnion, the powders work faster/better, but theres also more bloating. You still need to consume 1-2 gallons of water per day, which ever way you go. I used both last month, powders/pills. You have to read the directions, they are different for each product. Some say take on an empty stomach; some say ok with food; some say pre-workout; some say post-workout; some are before and during the workout. Six-Star Nitric Oxide pills are twice per day- morning and pre-workout. Six Star Prof. Creatine pills or powder I believe are post workout. NO-Xplode is pre-workout, with CellMass being post-workout. SuperPump 250 is pre-workout, SizeOn is during and post-workout. Just read the instructions for the product you're taking and follow exactly. The water consumption is very important. Generally, NO products are pre-workout, then creatine can be pre or post, depending.

[LittleGuy1980]

In my opinnion, the powders work faster/better, but theres also more bloating. You still need to consume 1-2 gallons of water per day, which ever way you go. I used both last month, powders/pills. You have to read the directions, they are different for each product. Some say take on an empty stomach; some say ok with food; some say pre-workout; some say post-workout; some are before and during the workout. Six-Star Nitric Oxide pills are twice per day- morning and pre-workout. Six Star Prof. Creatine pills or powder I believe are post workout. NO-Xplode is pre-workout, with CellMass being post-workout. SuperPump 250 is pre-workout, SizeOn is during and post-workout. Just read the instructions for the product you're taking and follow exactly. The water consumption is very important. Generally, NO products are pre-workout, then creatine can be pre or post, depending.

Alright so I thought I would try Creatine Monohydrate, it's a GNC brand that's cheep and had the most servings in it. I also got Cytocarb to add to it. The guy at GNC said that it will help my body absorb it better with the extra carbs and to also drink it with grape juice. Also is CellMass made by Muscle Tech cause every time I buy there stuff it does noting for me. But I have not tried that one yet! Buy the way thanks for the info you have given me, you have been a great help.

[Blue Blazer]

Alright so I thought I would try Creatine Monohydrate, it's a GNC brand that's cheep and had the most servings in it. I also got Cytocarb to add to it. The guy at GNC said that it will help my body absorb it better with the extra carbs and to also drink it with grape juice. Also is CellMass made by Muscle Tech cause every time I buy there stuff it does noting for me. But I have not tried that one yet! Buy the way thanks for the info you have given me, you have been a great help.

Cell Mass is made by BSN, dat dere cell-tech however is made by Muscletech..

I keep hearing alot of bad things about MuscleTech products, I have never taken their stuff, but my friend has taken Hydroxycut and Hydroxycut hardcore and it worked very well for him...

Is muscletech products all that bad? I was thinking of trying cell-tech..

JM

[LittleGuy1980]

Cell Mass is made by BSN, dat dere cell-tech however is made by Muscletech..

I keep hearing alot of bad things about MuscleTech products, I have never taken their stuff, but my friend has taken Hydroxycut and Hydroxycut hardcore and it worked very well for him...

Is muscletech products all that bad? I was thinking of trying cell-tech..

JM

So the guy at GNC told me that Celltech was a good product but he didn't like anything else from Muscletech. I guess it's worth a try!

[pittjoe33]

Alright so I thought I would try Creatine Monohydrate, it's a GNC brand that's cheep and had the most servings in it. I also got Cytocarb to add to it. The guy at GNC said that it will help my body absorb it better with the extra carbs and to also drink it with grape juice. Also is CellMass made by Muscle Tech cause every time I buy there stuff it does noting for me. But I have not tried that one yet! Buy the way thanks for the info you have given me, you have been a great help.

CellMass is made by BSN, the same people that make NO-Xplode. Unless there isn't another vitamin store close to you, or unless you have to have the product right now, I wouldn't buy from GNC. There MegaMan multivitamin is very good. If they have a major blowout sale and mark down 60%, that's ok. Otherwise, they are way overpriced. Pick 3-5 products that you're interested in, check the price, then look it up on this website and compare. Even with shipping you'll pay less on here. Just some advice.

[athlete20]

So the guy at GNC told me that Celltech was a good product but he didn't like anything else from Muscletech. I guess it's worth a try!

Bro, are you serious. Cell-Tech is a waste of money. SuperPump 250 and SizeOn are really good. If you just want to take a creatine supp, go with Kre-alkalyn.

[deserusan]

If any of you want samples of SizeON to try out send your request and info here:

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[LittleGuy1980]

CellMass is made by BSN, the same people that make NO-Xplode. Unless there isn't another vitamin store close to you, or unless you have to have the product right now, I wouldn't buy from GNC. There MegaMan multivitamin is very good. If they have a major blowout sale and mark down 60%, that's ok. Otherwise, they are way overpriced. Pick 3-5 products that you're interested in, check the price, then look it up on this website and compare. Even with shipping you'll pay less on here. Just some advice.

I don't buy much there anymore! I get a lot of my stuff online these days! Amazon has great prices too. I just was right there so I stopped in to get some advice and try some stuff out, plus if you don't like it you can take it back!

[Gorewhore]

i reckon any monohydrate should do the job

doesnt matter what brand,am i wrong?

[hjayss]

I am the classic no responder to most types. I do respond well to kre-alklyn though. I have not ried ethel ester though. If something works you stick with it I hate to waste money.

[mriege]

Vitargo CGL works good for me

I've used a lot of creatines over the years generally on a 3 month on, one month off cycle. As I've gotten older however, my tolerance for creatine has decreased. Products like Cell Mass or Cell Tech make me bloat and give me a lot of gastrointestinal distress, forcing me to quit using the product. I bought a 3 month supply of Vitargo CGL (fruit punch) as it was advertised to be easy on the gut. I've used the product for a month and so far so good, no bloat, no gas. My lifts have steadily increased and my muscles are fuller. I haven't taken any before or after pictures for comparison, but my arms are larger (1/8th inch) and my chest is about a half inch larger, yet my body weight is the same (195). Its really hard to improve when you get over 50, but this product seems to work.

[Byrddowg03]

Micronized Creatine Monohydrate from AST Sports Science.

I got stronger right off the bat and didn't get as sore after the hard days. AST sports is the best.

[M1STAT1NG1111]

SizeON

/tread

[bodymaestro]

Universal Nutrition Creatine Chews

No messing around with powder and water, just eat four tabs and you are good to go. Tastes good.

Seems to work fine, no problems of any sort.

[CanuckHCore]

Right now I'm taking NO Shotgun before my workouts. It has 16 grams of protein plus creatine and glutamine. Seriously the most intense pumps and vascularity I've ever seen. After the workout I have been trying Gaspari Size-on. These two in a pair have given me the best results I've ever had, but I certainly paid for it. I might have to scale back on the brand names.

[white house]

I enjoy using Kre-Alkalyn, but Size On has given me the best results

[SO51CK]

wouldnt it be easier if there was a poll or sumthing with results? much easier to read as oppose 2 going through like 250 replies?

[soeffinblack]

creatine is wierd and reacts different with different people, so this should be named best overall creatineS, not just creatine...

BSN Cellmass worked great for me, creatine ethyl ester wasnt so great and that worked great for other people. I expected animal pump to be a good product after reading reviews and didnt get what I got whe ntaking BSN's cellmass. SO I ordered more cellmass and some white flood to go with at as well.

[2Burnt]

I hate to agree with the phosphegan commet, but I remember having pretty good results with it. I however am still on the quest for the perfect creatine. I'll be getting some tommorrow and still I'm juggling choices.

[Im Arrogant]

wouldnt it be easier if there was a poll or sumthing with results? much easier to read as oppose 2 going through like 250 replies?

its obviously too late for that....

I'd have to go with ProLab Creatine because its working wonders for me.

[o0hardcore0o]

Cellmass. Because its very effective for me and it taste great

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