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Austin109
04-30-2008, 11:09 AM
celltech is garbage. dont get it. cell mass is "okay" not great. i would look into sizeon by gaspari, or green mag by controlled labs
smartbells
04-30-2008, 11:35 AM
celltech is garbage. dont get it. cell mass is "okay" not great. i would look into sizeon by gaspari, or green mag by controlled labs
well put. cell tech takes creatine monohydrate and puts in alot of unnecessary dextrose.
my preference is one bulk creatine mono with carbs/protein for everyday. and one high quality one like size-on, mag, no shotgun for before or after working out
seriously though why the heck are cell tech and no xplode so popular.
richc
04-30-2008, 11:56 AM
Can one take BSN's Cellmass and Cell Tech's Creatine at the same time?
Im planning on buying some creatine next week but first want to make sure that it won't be too much of something or anything...
Cellmass is sold as a post-workout product but its not "creatine" per se, right?
Also, today is my last day on a high-protein (almost exclusive) diet. Could that harm my liver in any way? To jump right in into creatine?
cellmass is a creatine product, CEE, to be specific. i would not use both products, and id have to agree with some of the other people as to size on, so far ive seen the best results with size on/superpump
i would never use an exclusive protein only diet, you should always balance your meals between protein, complex carbs and healthy fats, personally i like the old rule of thumb 40 40 20.
janjo
04-30-2008, 01:25 PM
cellmass is a creatine product, CEE, to be specific. i would not use both products, and id have to agree with some of the other people as to size on, so far ive seen the best results with size on/superpump
i would never use an exclusive protein only diet, you should always balance your meals between protein, complex carbs and healthy fats, personally i like the old rule of thumb 40 40 20.
So I should quit Cellmass and Celltech hardcore altogether and just go for SizeOn by Gaspari?
Jan
Oh!and the protein only diet was just an experiment until today. I never do it.
shagwag3n
04-30-2008, 02:17 PM
i'm still not sure i understand the diff btw regular creatine mono powder and the cee stuff? is one better than the other? should both be used at the same time?
richc
04-30-2008, 02:55 PM
i'm still not sure i understand the diff btw regular creatine mono powder and the cee stuff? is one better than the other? should both be used at the same time?
cee = CREATINE ethyl ester
mon = CREATINE monohydrate
and a hundred other formulas, they are all the same creatine amino acid just bonded and buffered with different things, each company claims they have found the magic formula to make creatine both more effective and efficient, as to which is better, youll have to find out for yourself, everybody responds differently to different things, just b/c something didnt work for someone else doesnt mean it wont work for you. personally i have made the most progress with size on, but thats partly because there are some good carbs in there that keep me fueled all through my workout, in the end the harder you train the more progress youll make, even if its only squeezing out 1 or 2 more reps than usuall
yodadude16
04-30-2008, 03:10 PM
Can one take BSN's Cellmass and Cell Tech's Creatine at the same time?
Im planning on buying some creatine next week but first want to make sure that it won't be too much of something or anything...
Cellmass is sold as a post-workout product but its not "creatine" per se, right?
Also, today is my last day on a high-protein (almost exclusive) diet. Could that harm my liver in any way? To jump right in into creatine?
why would you? your mixing junk (celltech) with good stuff (cellmass). theres 10 grams of creatine in celltech and something under 5 now in the new cellmass. you will get better results with less creatine. go with cellmass and cellmass only. use the money u were gonna spend on celltech and buy a couple tubs of protein. you can never have too much protein. :P
Ilke2gofst
04-30-2008, 05:08 PM
Thanks for the responses, I think I will try my luck and try to swap for the new....GNC has a pretty lenient policy.
I have not seen much talk about Con-Cret... anyone use it? the GNC dude was telling me that it is amazing.... any thoughts?
Go to gnc they will take it back just make sure you have your reciept and tell them why you are returnin it and they cant say anything. Trust me ive done it haha
Austin109
04-30-2008, 05:33 PM
actualy ive heard great things about con-creat. never tried it yet but from what i hear its a solid creatine.
Question about the creatine types= only real difference is in you. it varies person to person. i personally like sizeon and green mag. size on when i have extra money and green mag as the economy version.
jovocop
04-30-2008, 07:47 PM
I haven't seen anyone write anything about 'blow' by magnum...personally i think its amazing, when using it pre-workout and cellmass post ive had some pretty good gains.
janjo
04-30-2008, 08:24 PM
I read that Celltech's creatine has a large dose of high fructose and thus, promotes bloating or water retention givig one that "puffy" look.
How does Size On compare in this area?
yodadude16
04-30-2008, 08:26 PM
I read that Celltech's creatine has a large dose of high fructose and thus, promotes bloating or water retention givig one that "puffy" look.
How does Size On compare in this area?
im sure size on blows celltech away...i havent tried size on but ive tried celltech and it sucks
shagwag3n
04-30-2008, 09:42 PM
cee = CREATINE ethyl ester
mon = CREATINE monohydrate
and a hundred other formulas, they are all the same creatine amino acid just bonded and buffered with different things, each company claims they have found the magic formula to make creatine both more effective and efficient, as to which is better, youll have to find out for yourself, everybody responds differently to different things, just b/c something didnt work for someone else doesnt mean it wont work for you. personally i have made the most progress with size on, but thats partly because there are some good carbs in there that keep me fueled all through my workout, in the end the harder you train the more progress youll make, even if its only squeezing out 1 or 2 more reps than usuall
well i went to GNC today and ended up w/a bottle of creatine ethyl ester.
the guy said that it's better than the monohydrate since i won't log as much water weight, and that i shouldn' take the pills on the days i'm not working out...
everything i've read so far says otherwise since it'd just be a waste, anyone wanna chime in on this?
yodadude16
04-30-2008, 10:06 PM
well i went to GNC today and ended up w/a bottle of creatine ethyl ester.
the guy said that it's better than the monohydrate since i won't log as much water weight, and that i shouldn' take the pills on the days i'm not working out...
everything i've read so far says otherwise since it'd just be a waste, anyone wanna chime in on this?
personally, cee gives me better results than monohydrate
CONTROLLED LABS
04-30-2008, 11:01 PM
celltech is garbage. dont get it. cell mass is "okay" not great. i would look into sizeon by gaspari, or green mag by controlled labs
those are the two best right there :)
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05-01-2008, 01:26 PM
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arshah
05-01-2008, 01:53 PM
i lookinto buy my first creatine product, i've narrowed it down to cee, size on, and green mag. so which is the best one that i should start with
erockafella
05-01-2008, 03:38 PM
I am also going to try my first creatine and was thinking about green mag. Is there any type of major side effects that anyone has experience with it?
DGreekStallion
05-01-2008, 03:53 PM
i lookinto buy my first creatine product, i've narrowed it down to cee, size on, and green mag. so which is the best one that i should start with
SizeOn...
Only side effects are great work outs, great gains, and better self esteem!
yodadude16
05-01-2008, 04:16 PM
those are the two best right there :)
u mean celltech and cellmass?
Austin109
05-01-2008, 06:16 PM
I am also going to try my first creatine and was thinking about green mag. Is there any type of major side effects that anyone has experience with it?
strength gains and bigger muscles. i hate it. :rolleyes:
TJ2000
05-01-2008, 07:00 PM
I don't know if size on works great or not BUT my first day taking it (today) it tastes pretty decent, not amazing but def not something I'd want to stay away from drinking. I have the grape blast flavor by the way. Taste is a solid 8/10.
I usually drink it before my work out or through out my work out, and its not that bad. Hope it works.
email_mikel
05-01-2008, 08:01 PM
i lookinto buy my first creatine product, i've narrowed it down to cee, size on, and green mag. so which is the best one that i should start with
GreenMAG for sure!!
palanilopez12
05-01-2008, 10:49 PM
im going for green mag as well...i took size on before and i felt somewhat bloated although each person may not experience the same thing...i am on white flood...purple wraath...and green mag...love controlled labs products...cant be beat!!!
pu12en12g
05-02-2008, 02:06 AM
im going for green mag as well...i took size on before and i felt somewhat bloated although each person may not experience the same thing...i am on white flood...purple wraath...and green mag...love controlled labs products...cant be beat!!!
Awesome, thanks for spreading the good word :cool:
samsingh
05-02-2008, 02:36 AM
Size On BY Gaspari - Get a Great Pump and Definite Strength Increases, best creatine i have taken so far. Only Problem is its not easy on the wallet
My fav's in creatine matrix remain Sizeon and Universal Storm .
And in plain creatine its Labrada's Crealean with 3 spoons of gulucose .
jetjockey
05-02-2008, 04:35 AM
Creaform ! Simple, Cheap, Effective
heyits82
05-02-2008, 08:09 AM
green mag. i bought 2 of the big 80 serving containers fer $27.99 each.
cjdelaney
05-02-2008, 01:58 PM
I got one for you guys. I have been taking noxplode and cellmass for a while and I think they work great but I have been shopping around and I am pretty sure I can by AAKG, Glutamine, and Creatine Ethyl Ester individually and save a ton of money. I know that the BSN products have all kinds of other stuff designed to increase uptake and transport and everything but I am on pretty fixed income and the cost is an issue. My question is, aside from the main ingredients (creatine, glutamine, arginine), how much is all the other stuff in the BSN products really worth? Do you think I will notice a significant difference?
kylethack
05-02-2008, 06:30 PM
Armegeddon
Chalky-White
05-02-2008, 06:42 PM
Armegeddon
if youre talking about StarChem Labs Armageddon, youre mistaken, it is not creatine. it is a pre-workout with a useless amount of Creatine Mono. in it.
spot_skater
05-02-2008, 07:30 PM
I just got finished with a stack of Green Bulge/White Blood (essentially the pill forms of green mag/white flood, I think??). I was VERY happy with the results.
Accompanied with a bulk I put on 11 lbs in about 8 weeks, and my dead lift 1rm went form 365 to 415 (feel like I could have pulled more), Back squat is up to 275x5 DEEP (also feel like I could have had more) and front squat is up to 225x6 (did 225x5 today after pyramidding up after back squats AND front squats). Flat DB press is up to 85x6, as well (from about 75x5). All stats at current weight of 152. Supps were taken exactly as directed. 5 green bulge/day and 3 white blood on training days (mon-fri).
Strength has gone way up, as you can see. Can this be solely contributed to the CEE and NO stack from CL? I don't know. But personally I feel like it definitely had a lot to do with it.
To the boys at CL, great job. I will probably give some more of your products a shot. :)
janjo
05-03-2008, 09:17 AM
got SizeOn yesterday. I thought it was CEE but its mono.
tnsfinest
05-03-2008, 07:15 PM
SizeOn is working great for me, I noticed results on day 2. The Lemon Ice flavor is pretty good, but tastes even better with a bit of lemon flavored drink mix thrown in (kool-aid, gatorade, etc).
CONTROLLED LABS
05-03-2008, 07:20 PM
GreenMAG for sure!!
im going for green mag as well...i took size on before and i felt somewhat bloated although each person may not experience the same thing...i am on white flood...purple wraath...and green mag...love controlled labs products...cant be beat!!!
green mag. i bought 2 of the big 80 serving containers fer $27.99 each.
I just got finished with a stack of Green Bulge/White Blood (essentially the pill forms of green mag/white flood, I think??). I was VERY happy with the results.
Accompanied with a bulk I put on 11 lbs in about 8 weeks, and my dead lift 1rm went form 365 to 415 (feel like I could have pulled more), Back squat is up to 275x5 DEEP (also feel like I could have had more) and front squat is up to 225x6 (did 225x5 today after pyramidding up after back squats AND front squats). Flat DB press is up to 85x6, as well (from about 75x5). All stats at current weight of 152. Supps were taken exactly as directed. 5 green bulge/day and 3 white blood on training days (mon-fri).
Strength has gone way up, as you can see. Can this be solely contributed to the CEE and NO stack from CL? I don't know. But personally I feel like it definitely had a lot to do with it.
To the boys at CL, great job. I will probably give some more of your products a shot. :)
thanks guys. this type of testimonial is what keeps us going. We live on feedback, positive or constructive negative feedback is all good (helps us make effective products and tweak existing ones to make them better) :)
paolokav
05-04-2008, 11:40 AM
what supplement should i use to get more mass on my abs? if it's possible reply at my bodyspace. thanx
baznguy
05-04-2008, 02:17 PM
got SizeOn yesterday. I thought it was CEE but its mono.
it has more than just mono
overkill2020
05-04-2008, 04:17 PM
This summer im planning to start a stack of creatine I can decide though... Cellmass or Creckic Caps if i do the cellmass i will also do the N.O. Explode or Superpump 250 with it.
So which creatine and which preworkout N.O.?
baznguy
05-04-2008, 04:48 PM
Superpump + Size On. I never had any gains from Cell Mass. it was a waste.
dgcoats
05-04-2008, 04:50 PM
Cell-tech Hardcore worked best for me, which was surprising, considering most MT products are bull**** propaganda. An unpleasant surprise has been Green Magnitude. I've been taking it for the past month and a half and have seen very little results. I was disappointed cuz I heard nothing but good reviews, and I love most of Controlled Labs other products (Orange Triad!! Buy it!!). I'm about to start using Universal Storm pretty soon so if anyone has used that and it worked well/sucked ass let me know.
overkill2020
05-04-2008, 05:08 PM
Celltech For the most part I heard that muscletech products are crap, Universal storm is cheap but works well
So normal monohydrate or cellmass help me out
gholston50
05-04-2008, 07:02 PM
for anyone who has tried both of these products, how would you compare sizeon and storm to each other? which one did you like better?
christopher.victoria
05-05-2008, 01:46 AM
I see alot of people praising size on by Gaspari, i was thinkng about taking the tabs to stay away from the xtra sugar and carbs. Do the tabs work just as good as the powder?
TXHoopsChick
05-05-2008, 03:19 AM
I personally really like this stuff called "Anabolic Switch". I used to always use the white Creatine Monohydrate powder from Optimum or Twinlab I think. Anyways, the stuff gave me an upset stomach sometimes, took a while to feel it set in before a workout, etc. This Anabolic Switch stuff is supposed to be a better type of creatine and I feel a major difference on it! Within 30 minutes of drinking it, I feel it in my system totally and feel amped to work out. Anyone else tried my same creatine before?
SokViChet
05-05-2008, 08:01 AM
CellMass (the post-litigation AVPT formula) is the only creatine I've ever tried, so it is difficult to measure the effectiveness. The taste is amazing and it seems to be a potential source of my greater-than-usual gains, but it's time to try something new.
I'm having a hard time deciding between Clout and SizeOn. How bad of an idea is it to use both SizeOn with (Clout or CellMass)? As it seems they are two different kinds of creatine (monohydrate vs CEE) and used at different times (during workout vs pre-bedtime/pwo). It seems this would put a bit of stress on the kidneys... Would it be overkill?
Additionally, CellMass has some recovery elements in it as well as Clout. What type of recovery products do you stack with your creatine? Like Xtend or Purple Wraath? I'm still using MHP Glutamine-SR which has been an AMAZING staple for me since starting lifting.
Please go easy on me. Still learning :P
Austin109
05-05-2008, 09:46 AM
even though they say to take them at dif times you really shouldnt stack 2 creatines. once they are absorbed creatine is creatine is creatine.
Sizeon+PW is sick man. youll have to force yourself to leave the gym.
Clout is supposed to be great too
DGreekStallion
05-05-2008, 10:03 AM
even though they say to take them at dif times you really shouldnt stack 2 creatines. once they are absorbed creatine is creatine is creatine.
Sizeon+PW is sick man. youll have to force yourself to leave the gym.
Clout is supposed to be great too
X2. SizeOn+PW= Amazing results and workouts!
CONTROLLED LABS
05-05-2008, 02:20 PM
Cell-tech Hardcore worked best for me, which was surprising, considering most MT products are bull**** propaganda. An unpleasant surprise has been Green Magnitude. I've been taking it for the past month and a half and have seen very little results. I was disappointed cuz I heard nothing but good reviews, and I love most of Controlled Labs other products (Orange Triad!! Buy it!!). I'm about to start using Universal Storm pretty soon so if anyone has used that and it worked well/sucked ass let me know.
were you on another creartine directly before? if so, dont expect a huge jump as you were already saturated from previous usage
richc
05-05-2008, 06:55 PM
I see alot of people praising size on by Gaspari, i was thinkng about taking the tabs to stay away from the xtra sugar and carbs. Do the tabs work just as good as the powder?
unless your trying to cut weight, the carbs are a must, its one of the ingredients that keeps you fueled and kicking a@# right up to the end of your workout
alex_76
05-05-2008, 08:22 PM
even though they say to take them at dif times you really shouldnt stack 2 creatines. once they are absorbed creatine is creatine is creatine.
Sizeon+PW is sick man. youll have to force yourself to leave the gym.
Clout is supposed to be great too
What does PW stand for?
Do you mean you take two creatines? why is this better than just one?
I alaways hear that you piss the creatine out, not much stays in the body.
email_mikel
05-05-2008, 08:31 PM
What does PW stand for?
Do you mean you take two creatines? why is this better than just one?
I alaways hear that you piss the creatine out, not much stays in the body.
its SizeON and CL PurpleWraath.
999heyho
05-05-2008, 11:31 PM
Is it important to load creatine?Why? Or can we just take it as per normal?
A lot of the brands ask users to go through LOADING PHASE with their products.
ok ill play. I got some Controlled Labs - Green Magnitude as my very first creatine product purchase.
Having never tried any creatine before, the taste is very sweet, and it is easy to go down or even sip like an actual drink.
I found I was mixing in too much water at first.
without any other product to compare it to Im afraid I am at a loss to give a results report.
All I know is that it tastes good!
CONTROLLED LABS
05-06-2008, 06:59 AM
What does PW stand for?
Do you mean you take two creatines? why is this better than just one?
I alaways hear that you piss the creatine out, not much stays in the body.
purple wraath = PW
ok ill play. I got some Controlled Labs - Green Magnitude as my very first creatine product purchase.
Having never tried any creatine before, the taste is very sweet, and it is easy to go down or even sip like an actual drink.
I found I was mixing in too much water at first.
without any other product to compare it to Im afraid I am at a loss to give a results report.
All I know is that it tastes good!
give it a few weeks to fully kick in and make sure to take it on off days too. 8 ounces is the sweet spot for many.
999heyho
05-06-2008, 08:56 AM
can you mix cell mass to your protein powder and use it for pwo?
or take it separately?
TJ2000
05-06-2008, 09:04 AM
Everyones jumping on the CL band wagon around here.
I personally find Swole V3, Size on, and storm are solid creatine products, same with NO shotgun though its more pre work out.
lonewolf0420
05-06-2008, 09:28 AM
I just started taking Prolabs Creatine Mono powder. Two 300g bottles for $23. Came with a Prolab T-Shirt.
dvsness
05-06-2008, 01:27 PM
I just started taking Prolabs Creatine Mono powder. Two 300g bottles for $23. Came with a Prolab T-Shirt.
Enjoy. :)
Jakester8383
05-06-2008, 05:04 PM
I've used Primaforce CEE for awhile, it has seemed to work fairly well for me but I think I might change it up and look for something better.
alex_76
05-07-2008, 12:40 AM
So is i take PW with my creatine, should i stop taking Glutamine since PW helps to produce or has in the product glutamine.
So everybody have different oppinion, but which one IS the best creatine?
jaybird818
05-07-2008, 05:19 AM
i have been takin ultimate nutrition kre-alkalyn twice a day 6 am and 6 pm it is slower than the powder form w/water but you will not retain ANY water also it is easy on the stomach. for the price and the results i have been recieving i would recomend this to anyone.
richc
05-07-2008, 11:28 AM
So is i take PW with my creatine, should i stop taking Glutamine since PW helps to produce or has in the product glutamine.
So everybody have different oppinion, but which one IS the best creatine?
you cant define which is "the best" there are so many variables, if it doesnt work is it because the product is crap or is it your diet or maybe your training regiment which is crap. unless your diet and training are up to par dont waste your time trying figure out which creatine is best because your not gonna see any results anyway.
in the end you just have to experiment with the different formulas out there and figure out which one works best for YOU.
dgcoats
05-07-2008, 11:32 AM
were you on another creartine directly before? if so, dont expect a huge jump as you were already saturated from previous usage
That's the thing, though. I was off Cell-Tech for about two weeks, so I felt that was plenty of time to get my body back to pre-creatine stage and make sure Green Mag worked well. Should I have waited longer?
randomperosn
05-07-2008, 11:40 AM
storm:) gona try GM next round all ive heard...good things bout GM:)
ice4me
05-07-2008, 12:44 PM
Ive been on storm then went to GM for a few months .. now back on storm and will probably go back to green magnitude in a couple months. 2 best for me. Storm is best bang for buck but GM isnt far off. Right around the same.
I dont think I gave sizeon an honest shot at it but the 1 month I was on it I dont think I like it that much. I dont think I was on point when I took it though but I still wont buy it again.
gabe522k3
05-07-2008, 12:49 PM
Creatine Mon, I just hate the water weight :-(
janjo
05-07-2008, 02:15 PM
Creatine Mon, I just hate the water weight :-(
whats the best method or way to counter water retention?
Austin109
05-07-2008, 02:52 PM
^^^^ increase you water intake.
JC-StI
05-07-2008, 03:37 PM
mono did nothing for me unless i took it with a dextose any blend it tried messed my stomach up. Cell mass works without the bloat.
overkill2020
05-07-2008, 05:03 PM
cellmass or mono ? which is better?
MegaMan Myke
05-07-2008, 05:27 PM
Virtago worked well for me. But i've recently switched to universal torrent which has monohydrate like the vitargo but also has a creatine chelate magnesium compound as well as an ethyl ester. Looks great on paper and feels great post work out! Still too early to tell but Universal is a great supplement company so I have no doubts I will like it.
Mr. Mojo Risin
05-07-2008, 08:37 PM
Dymatize X-Pand
CONTROLLED LABS
05-07-2008, 09:15 PM
So is i take PW with my creatine, should i stop taking Glutamine since PW helps to produce or has in the product glutamine.
So everybody have different oppinion, but which one IS the best creatine?
you should stop taking glutamine because it doesnt really benefit the athlete at all :)
That's the thing, though. I was off Cell-Tech for about two weeks, so I felt that was plenty of time to get my body back to pre-creatine stage and make sure Green Mag worked well. Should I have waited longer?
no need to wait, but you wont get the same type of results as you did the first time you started taking creatine. also, make sure to get in at leas a gallon of water per day
storm:) gona try GM next round all ive heard...good things bout GM:)
glad to hear it, which flavor are you going with?
El_Spiko
05-07-2008, 09:32 PM
My fave's NanoVapor, or VasoCharge from Scivation
yodadude16
05-07-2008, 10:37 PM
cellmass or mono ? which is better?
cellmass...duh
MenTaLPiRacY
05-07-2008, 11:32 PM
i took Swole a couple years back and had good results. I haven't been into creatine chats in a loong time so i dont know which one is the best out right now.. would i be wasting my time getting teh swole again?
I'm going to buy creatine tomorrow, but I'm still trying to decide which i should get.
GreenMAG or mono ?
bodybuildingdud
05-08-2008, 06:19 AM
Correct my understanding if I'm wrong:
-stuff like AST Micronized Creatine (Monohydrate) is a 1st generation creatine supp
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/microcreatine.html
-and have been superceded by state of the art creatine supps with other included supps eg. Cellmass, GreenMag, Sizeon etc..
Right?
Or will a basic micronized Creatine Monohydrate supp still do the job?
(not fussed about any specialized pre or post-workout drinks)
kcinnitram91
05-08-2008, 06:52 AM
whats the best method or way to counter water retention?
water retention is healthy while on creatine. It means that the creatine is bringing water into your cells.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-08-2008, 08:16 AM
I'm going to buy creatine tomorrow, but I'm still trying to decide which i should get.
GreenMAG or mono ?
free green mag samples, check my signature below for the link :)
lonewolf0420
05-08-2008, 08:50 AM
Account created, and email sent. Thanks for the offer.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-08-2008, 09:52 AM
Account created, and email sent. Thanks for the offer.
my pleasure, thanks for giving us a shot and please leave feedback once you try them
DualRectifier
05-08-2008, 12:01 PM
i have been takin ultimate nutrition kre-alkalyn twice a day 6 am and 6 pm it is slower than the powder form w/water but you will not retain ANY water also it is easy on the stomach. for the price and the results i have been recieving i would recomend this to anyone.
I started Kre-Alkalyn this week. So far it's not nearly as good as the powdered monohydrate I've been taking--I'm getting lactic acid burn this week that I wasn't getting on the mono. I hope it gets better. I hate taking the powder, and all the side effects.
JCoreyball2
05-08-2008, 01:37 PM
I just started taking GNC's Amplified Creatine 189, which is in capsule form. You don't get that bloated feeling, your body just absorbs it up. So far so good, I'll keep everyone posted on my BodySpace.
DragonDude
05-08-2008, 01:58 PM
BSN Cellmass best tasting & More importantly designed to take AFTER workouts not before!
Ready to go Creatines with no loading phase , most take before workouts leave you bloated running to the toilet often during workout.
Worse, those like Gaspari Size On are designed to be taken DURING your workout - lovely nice big powdery nasty tasting drink with at least a litre (yes 1 litre!) of water.
richc
05-08-2008, 02:09 PM
BSN Cellmass best tasting & More importantly designed to take AFTER workouts not before!
Ready to go Creatines with no loading phase , most take before workouts leave you bloated running to the toilet often during workout.
Worse, those like Gaspari Size On are designed to be taken DURING your workout - lovely nice big powdery nasty tasting drink with at least a litre (yes 1 litre!) of water.
whats wrong with the litre of water, you should be drinking that much water during your workout anyway!
chrischoi1235
05-08-2008, 02:31 PM
I'm taking Cellmass right now.
baznguy
05-08-2008, 04:33 PM
has anyone tried the new cellmass with AVPT?
grizzly82
05-08-2008, 05:06 PM
I just bought the New Cell Mass with the AVPT along with N.O. Xplode... Used it for 3 days so far, not bad. still has the great taste. lets see how i feel after a few more days
baznguy
05-08-2008, 05:20 PM
post your results. it looks interestin. good luck
Immortal_son
05-08-2008, 06:16 PM
I know Betagen, by EAS, contains Creatine, HMB, and Glutamine, but would this be as effective as Creatine alone? Has anyone tried it?
I tried a few Creatine before such as Labrada's CreaLean II, Creakic, Cell Tech (bahhh!!!), and Phosphegen HP. CreaLean II worked just as well as Creakic for half the price (my body responded well to it). Before I go back to CreaLean II, I was wondering if the combination in Betagen would be a better buy.
Thanks for any info.
jebbers
05-08-2008, 07:57 PM
i have been takin ultimate nutrition kre-alkalyn twice a day 6 am and 6 pm it is slower than the powder form w/water but you will not retain ANY water also it is easy on the stomach. for the price and the results i have been recieving i would recomend this to anyone.
i take the efx kre-alkalyn, imo the greatest creatine product ever produced, my bench went up 40 lbs, and my squat went up 75 lbs in the six weeks after wrestling ended
golden.eye04
05-09-2008, 04:19 AM
Can anyone help me 2 decide which is the best creatine monohydrate . .. is it higher power micronized creatine, AST micronized , ABB creaforce or Prolab's creatine ??
Can anyone help me 2 decide which is the best creatine monohydrate . .. is it higher power micronized creatine, AST micronized , ABB creaforce or Prolab's creatine ??
It doesn't really matter because they're all mono. However, I'd go with Prolab's because its Creapure
http://www.creapure.com/
I'm personally trying Green MAGnitude. It tastes great :)
bodybuildingdud
05-09-2008, 10:45 AM
Creapure is simply Micronized Creatine Monohydrate - better than the non-micronized variety..
What about all this new gen stuff like:
-SizeOn
-Greenmag etc
Are these basically Creatine + pre/post workout drink?
Anabolistic_Creation
05-09-2008, 08:33 PM
EAS Phosphagen Monohydrate Creatine is outstanding. I havent trialed many products but I know that When I take this creatine combined with carbs, and a high carb and protein diet throughout the day (which should be automatic anyway, I shouldnt have to say that) I gained 7.5kg's in 3 weeks!! Thats 16.5 pounds in 3 weeks! My dimensions went up considerably with everyone from family, friends, gym buddies, complete strangers and my girlfriend telling me Ide gotten bigger. But I paid the price with my fat going up about 2-3% and my wait increased by 2 inches. With hard training, a high carb diet, and THIS Creatine...You can gain weight.
JustiNtense
05-09-2008, 09:05 PM
Green Magnitude and Storm are very good creatine supps, I pretty much just alternate between them, about to finish my 3rd tub of green mag and im going to order my 3rd Storm when it's up.
Grinners
05-09-2008, 11:40 PM
How much creatine is in 1 serving of SizeOn???
Couldn't see it... Thanks, reps for quick answer.
simlock
05-10-2008, 04:09 AM
You want a performance creatine with no hype, Con-Cret-get it at GNC. Pay the price, it comes with all these added benefits:
No Load, No Cycle, No Binders, No Sugar, No Fillers, No Buffering, No Micronize, No Side Effects-that includes headaches. By the way check your blood sugar level on the headaches-what you could be taking is layered in sugar or some type of sweetner and that could be a cause.
Oh the benefits....micro dosing hellooooo 1/4 teaspoon per 100 lbs....never heard of it until now..MICRO DOSING....why..it is pure!
where to buy this product ??? pm please thanks
yodadude16
05-10-2008, 09:43 PM
where to buy this product ??? pm please thanks
he said gnc....
khalidalkhamiri
05-11-2008, 01:45 AM
I use
cellmass from BSN Arctic Berry Blast
becuse of:
- taste is soo good comparing to another brand.
-I see the devlopment of my mussiles when I use it+ a little of energy .
illinijeff217
05-11-2008, 09:36 PM
Yea, does anybody know how much creatine is in each serving of SizeOn
CONTROLLED LABS
05-12-2008, 07:39 AM
Green Magnitude and Storm are very good creatine supps, I pretty much just alternate between them, about to finish my 3rd tub of green mag and im going to order my 3rd Storm when it's up.
yup and people can get free green magnitude samples by clicking the link in my signature below :)
lonewolf0420
05-12-2008, 07:46 AM
yup and people can get free green magnitude samples by clicking the link in my signature below :)
I summited the request last week, and still haven't gotten to conformation email. Is the wait that long? I just wanted to make sure it was received.
MenTaLPiRacY
05-12-2008, 05:33 PM
just bought some sizeon.. hopefully it works better than Satur8 did.. i havent taken a creatine in a loooong time and this is my first time to try one in about 2-3 years.. from what i read on here it seems pretty good.
Dedicated37
05-12-2008, 06:04 PM
just bought some sizeon.. hopefully it works better than Satur8 did.. i havent taken a creatine in a loooong time and this is my first time to try one in about 2-3 years.. from what i read on here it seems pretty good.
I think you'll really like SizeON... a great product imo.
bikemad786
05-14-2008, 11:57 AM
hi all im just wanting some advice on creatines which is the best creatine for water weight as im on a serious bulk
http://www.activesportsnutrition.co.uk/
would appreciate links from here
p.s i know people dont like water weight but in this case im needing it i know its strange
hi all im just wanting some advice on creatines which is the best creatine for water weight as im on a serious bulk
http://www.activesportsnutrition.co.uk/
would appreciate links from here
p.s i know people dont like water weight but in this case im needing it i know its strange
If you've got $, I'd go with http://www.activesportsnutrition.co.uk/shop/cat,CREATINES/parent,0/product_name,GASPARI%20SIZE%20ON%201290G (Sizeon)
If you're lacking in $ go with http://www.activesportsnutrition.co.uk/shop/cat,CREATINES/parent,0/page,3/product_name,REFLEX%20XXL%20MATRIX%202.5%20KG (Bulk Creapure)
bikemad786
05-14-2008, 12:13 PM
basically im looking to spend around ?30 max i know ur from around america so i reckon it will be $15? not verry good with figures also you sure its best to gain a decent amount of water weight? is pure creatine not better? rather than a mix with glutamine?
bikemad786
05-14-2008, 12:43 PM
any 1 ?? need replys as im goin to get it tomarrow
CONTROLLED LABS
05-14-2008, 01:51 PM
basically im looking to spend around ?30 max i know ur from around america so i reckon it will be $15? not verry good with figures also you sure its best to gain a decent amount of water weight? is pure creatine not better? rather than a mix with glutamine?
the green magnitude 40 serving container is less than 30 dollars
bikemad786
05-14-2008, 01:56 PM
yes but as stated above i want sumthing that i could get from the link i gave
http://www.activesportsnutrition.co.uk/shop/cat,CREATINES/parent,0/page,2/product_name,KRE-ALKALYN%201500.%20120%20CAPS
http://www.activesportsnutrition.co.uk/shop/cat,CREATINES/parent,0/page,2/product_name,MUSCLETECH%20CELL-TECH%202KG
http://www.activesportsnutrition.co.uk/shop/cat,CREATINES/parent,0/page,1/product_name,BSN%20CELL%20MASS%20640G
http://www.activesportsnutrition.co.uk/shop/cat,CREATINES/parent,0/page,1/product_name,CNP%20PRO-CREATINE%20E2%20240%20CAPS
which is the best out of these? btw im after alot of water weight due to a bulk
*edit* http://www.activesportsnutrition.co.uk/shop/cat,CHEMICAL%20NUTRITION%20(CNP)/parent,0/product_name,CNP%20PRO-GF%20NOX%201.26KG
heard this stuff is preety decent how ever a low amount of creatine?
DragonDude
05-14-2008, 03:53 PM
Whats with links above to site? I thought no advertising allowed. Anyway BSN Cellmass is one of the best.
Vitalshok44
05-14-2008, 04:02 PM
bsn has never done anything good for me :-(
Plus there way overpriced for the benefits they give you
I'm sure they work for some people unfortunately I'm just not one of them
Controlled labs, goliath labs, and vpx ,are much better choices in my opinion
email_mikel
05-14-2008, 07:12 PM
bsn has never done anything good for me :-(
Plus there way overpriced for the benefits they give you
I'm sure they work for some people unfortunately I'm just not one of them
Controlled labs, goliath labs, and vpx ,are much better choices in my opinion
I agree! Didn't like BSN stuff either.
six7one
05-14-2008, 07:39 PM
Green Mag is awesome. Great taste and great results. I would recommend it to anyone.
Purple Wraath as well. This stuff is like a staple for me. Tastes good too.
Both are cheap and last a long time!
CONTROLLED LABS
05-15-2008, 08:12 AM
I summited the request last week, and still haven't gotten to conformation email. Is the wait that long? I just wanted to make sure it was received.
we dont send confirmation emails. if it didnt bounce back to you, then we got it and shipped it. we ship samples within 1 business day :)
Green Mag is awesome. Great taste and great results. I would recommend it to anyone.
Purple Wraath as well. This stuff is like a staple for me. Tastes good too.
Both are cheap and last a long time!
awesome, thanks for spreading the word :)
Derrick101
05-15-2008, 09:23 AM
I have to say Kre-Akylan.. I do not see why one would not use it. A little more money at first, but spreads out longer.
Easier to use capsules, 750mg each, no side effects at all.
Pure power and getting some gains I never have had before in my workouts.
I cannot really compare to other forms, as it is my Creatine experience.
gregorious
05-15-2008, 10:02 AM
Higher Power Creatine Ethyl Ester in pill form did nothing for me. I'm willing to trade what I have left (~170 caps) for another type of creatine that didn't work for YOU. Whether in pill or powder form doesn't matter. PM me.
kcstuds
05-15-2008, 10:54 AM
the green magnitude 40 serving container is less than 30 dollars
as you are apparently a rep them, please enlighten me on why they changed the formula? Tell me how it is better or worse please. I'm not saying whether the change is bad or good that it effects the product that much or that it makes it a worse product. I'm just very curious and confused about this. Thanks.
HardGainer3500c
05-15-2008, 04:43 PM
cell tech
CONTROLLED LABS
05-15-2008, 05:52 PM
as you are apparently a rep them, please enlighten me on why they changed the formula? Tell me how it is better or worse please. I'm not saying whether the change is bad or good that it effects the product that much or that it makes it a worse product. I'm just very curious and confused about this. Thanks.
its better now for people who are sensitive to magnesium. we changed the ratio of mcc and dcm so that there would be less magnesium and thus less gastric upset.
Austin109
05-15-2008, 06:44 PM
^^^ its already helping me man. and theres been no drop off in strength/size gains
kcstuds
05-15-2008, 10:33 PM
its better now for people who are sensitive to magnesium. we changed the ratio of mcc and dcm so that there would be less magnesium and thus less gastric upset.
thanks a ton for the info. I'm lookin forward to my free sample. I've heard lots of good stuff about green mag, but never tried it. If i like the sample ill be a returning customer =)
Ichiban_D
05-16-2008, 12:03 AM
I've been on Cell mass for about 3 weeks now, the results seem to be good but as soon i run out i'm thinking about trying something new. I was wondering what the big difference is between cell mass and green mag other than the price. I like the fact that i don't look bloated from cell mass. Will Green mag make me bloated? And when I'm done with cell mass, should i wait a couple of weeks before starting up with something new? thanks in advance.
Requiem15
05-16-2008, 12:12 AM
dat der cell tech
CONTROLLED LABS
05-16-2008, 06:38 AM
^^^ its already helping me man. and theres been no drop off in strength/size gains
glad you like it, we always listen to customer feedback to make great products and make good products even better :)
thanks a ton for the info. I'm lookin forward to my free sample. I've heard lots of good stuff about green mag, but never tried it. If i like the sample ill be a returning customer =)
glad to hear it, thanks for giving our brand a try :)
I've been on Cell mass for about 3 weeks now, the results seem to be good but as soon i run out i'm thinking about trying something new. I was wondering what the big difference is between cell mass and green mag other than the price. I like the fact that i don't look bloated from cell mass. Will Green mag make me bloated? And when I'm done with cell mass, should i wait a couple of weeks before starting up with something new? thanks in advance.
green mag will not cause bloat, give it a try. free samples in the link below in my signature :)
SMallory
05-16-2008, 06:05 PM
can a 17 yr old use GreenMAG?
HardGainer3500c
05-16-2008, 06:21 PM
cell mass
kcstuds
05-16-2008, 11:20 PM
can a 17 yr old use GreenMAG?
yes, it is safe.. and one of the few preworkout supps i would reccommend to a 17 year old. I've yet to try it, but judging by what people say and the claims that have been made by the company (that have been supported) I'd say that it will do it's job
yodadude16
05-17-2008, 03:30 PM
I've been on Cell mass for about 3 weeks now, the results seem to be good but as soon i run out i'm thinking about trying something new. I was wondering what the big difference is between cell mass and green mag other than the price. I like the fact that i don't look bloated from cell mass. Will Green mag make me bloated? And when I'm done with cell mass, should i wait a couple of weeks before starting up with something new? thanks in advance.
cellmass by far. no bloat what so ever.
dan12
05-17-2008, 03:53 PM
i like green bulge
Ichiban_D
05-18-2008, 01:14 AM
For Green Mag up to how many weeks should i take it before going off it since the biggest size has 80 servings compared to cell mass' 60 servings?
Boarding
05-18-2008, 05:01 AM
Cellmass FTW
golden.eye04
05-18-2008, 08:07 AM
Hi all ... i m just lookin 2 gain some water weight ... so is there anyone out there help me 2 decide which is best creatine .... although i've decided b/w AST micronized creatine or Higher power creatine ???
has anyone tried these brands before or anyone had gained water weight with some other brands ???
i think pure creatine mono is the safest form of creatine to take... product like Green MAG or Cell Mass can prove 2 harsh for the stomach n can cause some serious Side effects ??? please suggest or correct me if i m wrong ??
jimmyray1985
05-18-2008, 08:47 AM
Universal Nutrition Animal Pump. Due to its multi directional approach
pu12en12g
05-18-2008, 08:47 AM
i like green bulge
http://controlledlabsforum.com/images/smilies/lifting.gif
pu12en12g
05-18-2008, 08:48 AM
For Green Mag up to how many weeks should i take it before going off it since the biggest size has 80 servings compared to cell mass' 60 servings?
Technically there's no real need to cycle it.
Austin109
05-18-2008, 03:45 PM
Hi all ... i m just lookin 2 gain some water weight ... so is there anyone out there help me 2 decide which is best creatine .... although i've decided b/w AST micronized creatine or Higher power creatine ???
has anyone tried these brands before or anyone had gained water weight with some other brands ???
i think pure creatine mono is the safest form of creatine to take... product like Green MAG or Cell Mass can prove 2 harsh for the stomach n can cause some serious Side effects ??? please suggest or correct me if i m wrong ??
green mag and cell mass are both easy on the stomach with no harsh side effects. both are great creatines. for water weight though id suggest SizeOn. i gained a lot of water weight on that
milanic
05-18-2008, 09:47 PM
Any ideas on why creatine only comes in fruit flavors and not vanilla, chocolate, etc? I doubt it's because of the chemical make up of the product, the flavors are all artificial anyway, so why only fruit punch, grape, orange, etc?
milanic
05-18-2008, 09:49 PM
Any ideas on why creatine only comes in fruit flavors and not vanilla, chocolate, etc?
Ichiban_D
05-19-2008, 12:18 AM
Are you supposed to take green mag only on training days? If not is it the same dosage?
Stuarty1984
05-19-2008, 01:33 AM
Any ideas on why creatine only comes in fruit flavors and not vanilla, chocolate, etc?
check out maximuscle stuff im not recommending it btw, its expensive and not that highly rated, but it comes in chocolate etc
christmuscle
05-19-2008, 08:01 AM
Cellmass seems to have worked a lot quicker than other creatines I have taken in the past.It only took about two weeks to see differrence( training m,t,t,f,s).it also produced harder muscle.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-19-2008, 08:27 AM
i like green bulge
me too,w hat do you like best about it?
For Green Mag up to how many weeks should i take it before going off it since the biggest size has 80 servings compared to cell mass' 60 servings?
no need to cycle it (or any creatine)
green mag and cell mass are both easy on the stomach with no harsh side effects. both are great creatines.
correct :)
Are you supposed to take green mag only on training days? If not is it the same dosage?
one scoop everyday :)
kcstuds
05-19-2008, 08:35 AM
one scoop everyday :)
Wow i figured you'd need to take two. That's not bad at all considering i take 2 scoops (sometimes 3) of my current workout supp which costs more than $40 and i can go through a 2 lb tub of it in 2-3 weeks. Green mag should last at least 2 months if im not mistaken.. or does me weighing 200 lbs make it so that i have to increase dosage?
crane_470
05-19-2008, 09:18 AM
I bought 6 star fruit punch in the powder form 2 days ago and it taste great. Its also supposed to be made by the same company as Cell Tech and its got lot of sugar I know this is off topic but im 18 6' tall and 157 pounds and im just trying to put what size I can and I have an extremelly high matabilism ( sorry for the grammer) so I was wondering what should I do im already taking true mass by bsn and that 6 star.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-19-2008, 09:33 AM
Wow i figured you'd need to take two. That's not bad at all considering i take 2 scoops (sometimes 3) of my current workout supp which costs more than $40 and i can go through a 2 lb tub of it in 2-3 weeks. Green mag should last at least 2 months if im not mistaken.. or does me weighing 200 lbs make it so that i have to increase dosage?
the 80 serving size green mag should last nearly 3 months er tub at 80 days :eek:
Derrick101
05-19-2008, 09:39 AM
If I take creatine for a while, say 6 weeks, and then stop, would my muscle growth fade a bit? I am told it acts like a balloon with muscles.
quasibatman
05-19-2008, 11:22 AM
yo creatine thread people...
this is a rep from the big neck coalition...
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what do you guys suggest for beta-alanine and creatine in the same product????????????/
quasibatman
05-19-2008, 11:24 AM
anyone?
rugby121
05-19-2008, 02:01 PM
i am about to start taking creatine again, 2 months ago i took micronised hp creatine which wasnt that great.
as most talk seems to be of green mag, i may order that, just wanted to know from the rep if its fine for a 16 y.o to use.
Ichiban_D
05-19-2008, 02:27 PM
My order of green mag should be in by tomorrow. My tub of cellmass should be done by tonight. Is it safe to start taking green mag the next day after being on cellmass for 4 weeks or should i wait a couple of weeks?
milanic
05-19-2008, 04:13 PM
thanks for the advice...but can any rep explain why most creatine products come in fruit flavors, while most (this is all my experience, i might be wrong) come in chocolate, vanilla, etc?
D_e_A_n
05-19-2008, 04:34 PM
Is CEE better than monohydrate powder such as MuscleTech Creatine?
AmericanPsycho
05-19-2008, 06:54 PM
depends on who you ask i guess
quasibatman
05-19-2008, 08:33 PM
Is CEE better than monohydrate powder such as MuscleTech Creatine?
no...
I was reading about this and and monohydrate is the one used in all the studies you hear about...
CEE is not really as trusty...
I think some people even theorize the all these ethyl esters aren't too healthy for body chemistry...
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and if anyone wants my opinion on best creatine products:
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1.) Clout from Man
2.) Storm from Universal
3.) Phosphagen Elite from EAS
note: I wanted beta-alanine with my creatine because I read some amazing studies on the effectiveness of creatine with beta-alanine
honorable mention: green magintude with purple wrath would be cool for all the control labs people
kcstuds
05-19-2008, 11:38 PM
I heard the best Creatine supplements are the Kre-Alkalyn (Pills) This true? ( i am considering taking them )
never tried kre-alkalyn but i think the majority would agree that creatine monohydrate is the way to go.
ALoverload
05-19-2008, 11:56 PM
AST micronized creatine hands down!
golden.eye04
05-20-2008, 02:55 AM
AST micronized creatine hands down!
Wats does that mean (hands down)??.... Is ur experience wid AST micronized creatine is good or bad ???
vsuarez
05-20-2008, 08:01 AM
ISS Creatine Effervescent for me has worked great. No bloating and great pumps.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-20-2008, 08:27 AM
anyone?
you can go for green magnitude and white flood as a good combo with those ingredients :)
My order of green mag should be in by tomorrow. My tub of cellmass should be done by tonight. Is it safe to start taking green mag the next day after being on cellmass for 4 weeks or should i wait a couple of weeks?
its fine to use it right away :)
naturalguy
05-20-2008, 08:55 AM
no...
I was reading about this and and monohydrate is the one used in all the studies you hear about...
CEE is not really as trusty...
I think some people even theorize the all these ethyl esters aren't too healthy for body chemistry...
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and if anyone wants my opinion on best creatine products:
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1.) Clout from Man
2.) Storm from Universal
3.) Phosphagen Elite from EAS
note: I wanted beta-alanine with my creatine because I read some amazing studies on the effectiveness of creatine with beta-alanine
honorable mention: green magintude with purple wrath would be cool for all the control labs people
Storm is the best value in creatine (aside from bulk) when you look at results/price at 80 servings for under $27 - it can't be beat.
Wherestherackat
05-20-2008, 12:15 PM
MAN - Clout
TTTMills
05-20-2008, 12:19 PM
CHAMPION NUTRITION POWER CREATINE... best hands down
Wherestherackat
05-20-2008, 12:20 PM
If I take creatine for a while, say 6 weeks, and then stop, would my muscle growth fade a bit? I am told it acts like a balloon with muscles.
No... As long as you train the same as you did while you were on the product you'll keep your gains. I'm sure there is some controversy on the subject, I'll try to find you some articles/proof to back it.
kcstuds
05-20-2008, 12:49 PM
No... As long as you train the same as you did while you were on the product you'll keep your gains. I'm sure there is some controversy on the subject, I'll try to find you some articles/proof to back it.
truth comes in personal experience. I whole-heartedly agree and support the statement made by wherestherackat. I've never lost gains after comin off of a creatine product when I've stayed workin hard in the gym, keeping my diet the same and everything. I think that when people get off creatine they quit workin out as much because they don't think they will gain as much so in fact they do lose it.
XockWave
05-20-2008, 07:29 PM
What types of creatine doesn't increase your &BF?!
A couple noob question, would appreciate an answer...
1. Why is it preferrable to take Green Magnitude + Purple Wrath? Why/how exactly do they complement each other?
2. I've never tried creatine. Up to this point, I've only taken Muscle Milk. I plan on starting a creatine cycle...is it preferrable for me to continue drinking Muscle Milk as well? Or is it a waste of money if I'm taking creatine?
G0re0bsessed
05-20-2008, 10:25 PM
A couple noob question, would appreciate an answer...
1. Why is it preferrable to take Green Magnitude + Purple Wrath? Why/how exactly do they complement each other?
2. I've never tried creatine. Up to this point, I've only taken Muscle Milk. I plan on starting a creatine cycle...is it preferrable for me to continue drinking Muscle Milk as well? Or is it a waste of money if I'm taking creatine?
1. I would use Size ON over Green mag. It is good for absorption to take a creatine sup intra w/o plus Size ON has plenty of carbs to keep you going. BCAAs are great for preserving muscle and are also best taken intra w/o.
2. Protein is a macro nutrient and you should get your daily allowance however you see fit. If you like MM no reason to stop. Creatine is only a bonus.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-21-2008, 07:20 AM
A couple noob question, would appreciate an answer...
1. Why is it preferrable to take Green Magnitude + Purple Wrath? Why/how exactly do they complement each other?
2. I've never tried creatine. Up to this point, I've only taken Muscle Milk. I plan on starting a creatine cycle...is it preferrable for me to continue drinking Muscle Milk as well? Or is it a waste of money if I'm taking creatine?
they complement each other. green mag pre and purple wraath intra. creatine (found in GM) and beta alanine (found in pw) work well together.
milou
05-21-2008, 08:52 AM
sometimes i heard people said GM with white flood and some other times i heard GM with purple wraath! wich combination is the best? should i add anything else with stack for muscle strenght and pump?
c0rv3tt3
05-22-2008, 10:54 AM
From my experience the best Creatine is the simplest. Creatine Mono. I felt no difference when i used SizeOn or Regular mono to be honest. I'd save the money. and go with the Creatine mono. Higher Power would work well. 1000 grams 20$.
TLUzLS1
05-22-2008, 11:50 AM
I took two bottles of anavol back to back recently and was extremely pleased with the results. It made my strength and endurance skyrocket and I was never tired or sore. It made me look a lot bigger as well. I went from 204 to a consistent 220 with 2 bottles (I know a lot of it is water weight but my strength went up a ton as well so idc). It lasted me about 6 weeks b/c I took the highest dosage (10 pills/day). Everyone I know personally has had great results with it and all highly recommend it but on here nobody ever mentions it on this site. All anyone ever talks about is green mag and size on as far as creatine goes. I got off anavol and started GM just to compare the 2, next I will do size on. So far the diff between anavol and GM is I am sore a lot more with the GM, but my strength gains are still pretty good. I've also lost about 2-3 lbs. since switching from anavol to GM. I would give the anavol a 9/10 and the GM a 8/10. Also, im stacking the GM with WF now and my workouts with just anavol were the same (as far as intensity/endurance, but maybe not energy).
So has anyone on here also had good results with anavol??
CONTROLLED LABS
05-22-2008, 12:20 PM
sometimes i heard people said GM with white flood and some other times i heard GM with purple wraath! wich combination is the best? should i add anything else with stack for muscle strenght and pump?
either one is great, most stack all 3 together as bb.com has a very cheap combo for the 3 :)
quasibatman
05-22-2008, 01:18 PM
Storm is the best value in creatine (aside from bulk) when you look at results/price at 80 servings for under $27 - it can't be beat.
yo!
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some sites have Glycoamine as an ingredient in Storm...
but other sites have Beta-Alanine in its place...
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WHAT GIVES?!?!?!?!?!?!?
AMERICAZHUSTLA
05-22-2008, 04:16 PM
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Shelloutfalter
05-23-2008, 06:40 PM
Everyone's anatomy is different, and what works for one certainly doesn't work for all. Such is the case with me and Creakic. I ran a bottle of Creakic and saw absolutely no volumization, nor any gains from it. I admit, I was drawn in by the marketing hype of MuscleTech, and it cost me.
A few months later, I purchased a bottle of Now Foods creatine monohydrate for the whopping price of $9.99, and after 48 hours on the loading dose, saw immediate volumization. Now is a reputable supplier of vitamins and supplements, and I bought it off the shelf of a reputable retailer. I have seen excellent gains from it and tolerate it well.
Screw MuscleTech and their over-priced marketing campaign that YOU, the paying customer, pay for.
golden.eye04
05-24-2008, 07:55 AM
Hi All ... Wat is the best way to take ProLab Creatine monohydrate??
im not lookin forward to high dose of 20 grams per day rather than i think 5 grams per day gives me the same result ....
Should i take all 5 grams after workout or 2.5 in the morning and the rest 2.5 after workout ??
n for how many days i continue this 5 gram dosage ??
N wat r the side effects if i dont consume more water during the creatine phase ??
Any help guys..... thanks
ILPump
05-24-2008, 08:12 AM
Hi All ... Wat is the best way to take ProLab Creatine monohydrate??
im not lookin forward to high dose of 20 grams per day rather than i think 5 grams per day gives me the same result ....
Should i take all 5 grams after workout or 2.5 in the morning and the rest 2.5 after workout ??
n for how many days i continue this 5 gram dosage ??
N wat r the side effects if i dont consume more water during the creatine phase ??
Any help guys..... thanks
I would stick with just the 5 grams a day, no need to load. Your preference really on wether you want half pre and the other half post or all at once. If you dont consume enough water you will get dehydrated and probably start to cramp up... Keep you water intake to 1-2 gallons a day if possible...
Shelloutfalter
05-24-2008, 09:35 AM
N wat r the side effects if i dont consume more water during the creatine phase ??
Any help guys..... thanks
Creatine can be taxing to your renal system (kidneys). Failure to consume an adequate amount of water can sabotage your gain potential, while at the same time burning your kidneys.
Creatine is a perfectly safe supplement if you consume enough water and cycle it properly. There's an art to cycling creatine to ensure you keep gains and don't burn your kidneys. As long as you follow that, you should be safe.
ConsistenT
05-24-2008, 10:49 AM
I am trying to cut and lose fat, so I plan to take Animal Cut and I want to take a creatine with it after I am done with my protein. BUT I need to get bigger and stronger for football.
WHICH IS BETTER FOR MY SITUATION?
GreenMAG
NO-Explode
CellMass
NaNo Vapor
milou
05-24-2008, 01:53 PM
ConsistenT
I am trying to cut and lose fat, so I plan to take Animal Cut and I want to take a creatine with it after I am done with my protein. BUT I need to get bigger and stronger for football.
you should keep taking your protein while cutting and can add creatine if you want
jesusmoreno
05-24-2008, 02:57 PM
I am trying to cut and lose fat, so I plan to take Animal Cut and I want to take a creatine with it after I am done with my protein. BUT I need to get bigger and stronger for football.
WHICH IS BETTER FOR MY SITUATION?
GreenMAG
NO-Explode
CellMass
NaNo Vapor
Green MAG is solid and sour apple tastes great...i don't recommend no xplode it was worthless to me
yodadude16
05-24-2008, 03:01 PM
I am trying to cut and lose fat, so I plan to take Animal Cut and I want to take a creatine with it after I am done with my protein. BUT I need to get bigger and stronger for football.
WHICH IS BETTER FOR MY SITUATION?
GreenMAG
NO-Explode
CellMass
NaNo Vapor
i highly recommend N.O. xplode and cellmass over the other 2.
Shelloutfalter
05-24-2008, 06:34 PM
It's amazing what doing your homework on the science behind supplements can do for someone's size while at the same time saving you a ton of money.
Let's take MuscleTech's Leukic for example... The main ingredient is L-Leucine. Now, there are a couple of other fancy sounding ingredients, but I'd go as far as to put them on the "inactive" side. If you go out and buy a reputable brand of L-Leucine supplement and take it consistently, you'll get the benefits of Leukic without paying MuscleTech's ridiculous price tag.
As I noted before, I saw no benefit from Creakic, but a $9.99 bottle of 100-percent creatine monohydrate caps by Now Foods produced immediate results for me.
I urge everyone not to be won over by marketing hype. Read the reviews, do the analysis yourself of supplements, purchase ingredients separately, get results and save.
solecrazed
05-24-2008, 09:02 PM
im almost done with ON creatine mono and i was wondering if i should take some time off before taking SIZEON
Ichiban_D
05-25-2008, 12:27 AM
My friend is taking TRAC NO extreme and was wondering if its safe to stack green Mag, cell mass or some other creatine product with it. Should he take creatine with preworkout with TRAC or take the creatine post workout? Personally I'd tell him to go with the green mag because the servings last longer for it's price and my gains have improved. Cell Mass works but it took me about three weeks for it to really kick in. Plus CM doesn't leave me sore the next day.
pu12en12g
05-25-2008, 02:48 AM
My friend is taking TRAC NO extreme and was wondering if its safe to stack green Mag, cell mass or some other creatine product with it.
Three creatine products ?
Why would you want to do that ?
pu12en12g
05-25-2008, 02:49 AM
From my experience the best Creatine is the simplest. Creatine Mono. I felt no difference when i used SizeOn or Regular mono to be honest. I'd save the money. and go with the Creatine mono. Higher Power would work well. 1000 grams 20$.
Nothing wrong with that :cool:
CONTROLLED LABS
05-25-2008, 08:01 AM
I am trying to cut and lose fat, so I plan to take Animal Cut and I want to take a creatine with it after I am done with my protein. BUT I need to get bigger and stronger for football.
WHICH IS BETTER FOR MY SITUATION?
GreenMAG
NO-Explode
CellMass
NaNo Vapor
Green MAG is solid and sour apple tastes great...i don't recommend no xplode it was worthless to me
cant go wrong with green magnitude and we offer free samples in the link in my signature below :)
Ichiban_D
05-25-2008, 10:34 AM
Doesn't trac xtreme NO have small traces of creatine in it like NO-Xplode?
Around how long would the 1.83 lb Green Mag + 1.34 lb White Flood combo last me?
Ichiban_D
05-25-2008, 02:34 PM
WF has 50 servings,while GM serves 80.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-25-2008, 07:10 PM
Around how long would the 1.83 lb Green Mag + 1.34 lb White Flood combo last me?
both green magnitude and white flood will last close to 3 months per tub :eek: an amazing value
Pbmiyagi91
05-25-2008, 07:59 PM
both green magnitude and white flood will last close to 3 months per tub :eek: an amazing value
how would it last three months with 50 servings
i just got the two and i dont see the wf doing any more than two months considering i lift 6 days a week
uncbob
05-25-2008, 08:14 PM
Tried Creatine several years back from GNC
Got a fantastic pump my first workout
I drank a lot of extra water
Went for my Sunday morning 10 mile jog and got dizzy after 3 miles and was dying of thirst--strained a hamstring to boot
Went home wondering if I screwed up my heart or something and couldn't jog for a month with the hamstring
Went off it that day and was afraid to try it again
Shame since my muscles felt like the were going to blow up during that one workout --great feeling --but not worth the risk
Wicked_Edge
05-26-2008, 11:09 AM
This might sound like a stupid question but can I mix creatine with a weight gainer in milk?
LayinLo
05-26-2008, 11:26 AM
This might sound like a stupid question but can I mix creatine with a weight gainer in milk?
Yes.
I have used MetRx creatine with good results.
LayinLo
05-26-2008, 11:28 AM
im almost done with ON creatine mono and i was wondering if i should take some time off before taking SIZEON
If you have hit a sticking point, take 2 weeks off the creatine then restart on the sizeon!
surdo
05-26-2008, 12:33 PM
[QUOTE=pittjoe33;68061743]I have been using all of the CEE and Kre-Alklyn products and found this article on Muscle and Fitness forums. It dissapointed me. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Creatine ethyl ester rapidly degrades to creatinine in stomach aci
Hello there, hey i heard wonderfull things from creatine(CEE), but have you tried high power creatine with Ethyl esther?, i had take this product for a month but so far not good, its not what i expected, i didn?t had a spoon so its an incovinient to take every serving since i?m not good on mesure 1/2 heaping tea spood, anyway this thing really taste horrible, i tried to put some honey and peanet butter but still taste really bad, does not expired untill december but is this taste normal??, i can lift a little more wight but still not happy
quasibatman
05-26-2008, 06:45 PM
I am trying to cut and lose fat, so I plan to take Animal Cut and I want to take a creatine with it after I am done with my protein. BUT I need to get bigger and stronger for football.
WHICH IS BETTER FOR MY SITUATION?
GreenMAG
NO-Explode
CellMass
NaNo Vapor
beta-alanine with creatine in studies doubles muscle gain than that with creatine or beta-alanine alone...
Orotate and Orotic Acid are also Carnosine boosters like Beta-Alanine by the way...
this is why I am getting Clout and Storm and taking both...
(Storm had some extra nutrients I wanted to add and some more Beta-Alanine and Creatine too)
Ryan314
05-26-2008, 07:58 PM
Just finished my first tub of SizeOn... and it will definetely be my last. Did not see any gains from it and gave me the worst GI distress / diarhea after every workout.
What's the verdict on the GNC Amplified Creatine 189 capsules?
ive used several creatine producrts and the one i would definetly recommend is creakic. My strength jumped through the roof and taking it is really easy, unlike others where you have to time everything around it. 3 out of bed and 3 right after a workout, doesnt matter when you work out either, cant get much easier that that
leightonlewis
05-27-2008, 01:23 AM
these two products have both worked well for me,o saw the mst gains from the La muscle range though
CONTROLLED LABS
05-27-2008, 08:53 AM
Just finished my first tub of SizeOn... and it will definetely be my last. Did not see any gains from it and gave me the worst GI distress / diarhea after every workout.
will you be stacking green magnitude with your white flood?
Ryan314
05-27-2008, 12:37 PM
will you be stacking green magnitude with your white flood?
I used to use Mag all the time with WF, then I switched to Green Bulge. But now, since I am trying to save some cash, I've switched to Higher Power CE3.
maxpinck1
05-27-2008, 02:16 PM
Cell Tech Hardcore
J-Cubed
05-27-2008, 04:33 PM
ProMera Health Con-Cret Creatine! This is the real deal man. I've heard Prolab's mono is a great product too.
-Merfolk-
05-27-2008, 05:48 PM
rar
razors_edge
05-27-2008, 07:02 PM
God, Im about 3 weeks into CE2 HI-DEF, major disapointment!! I had expected alot from it, especially from all the reviews, but it sucks. No increased rest time between reps,no increased strength, nothing. I can't even feel it working. Just 4 big ass pills to clog down my throat everyday.
I'm switching to sizeon as far as expensive creatine goes. If that doesn't work, I'm goin back to simple $20 mono which works.
fosss
05-27-2008, 07:10 PM
God, Im about 3 weeks into CE2 HI-DEF, major disapointment!! I had expected alot from it, especially from all the reviews, but it sucks. No increased rest time between reps,no increased strength, nothing. I can't even feel it working. Just 4 big ass pills to clog down my throat everyday.
I'm switching to sizeon as far as expensive creatine goes. If that doesn't work, I'm goin back to simple $20 mono which works.
Wow that's weird. I'm in the exact same situation as you, haha. I'm excited for Sizeon, CE2 was a dissappointment.
Trem24
05-28-2008, 09:00 AM
I'm currently on NO-Explode, which I found out sucks, it worked at first. Hate the way it makes you crash after workouts. Plus it makes me explode over the toilet.
Plan on switching to Green Bulge and throwing in Purple Wrath.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-28-2008, 10:49 AM
I'm currently on NO-Explode, which I found out sucks, it worked at first. Hate the way it makes you crash after workouts. Plus it makes me explode over the toilet.
Plan on switching to Green Bulge and throwing in Purple Wrath.
sounds great, but dont expect a stimulant energy rush like you get from noxplode since both of these products are stimulant free.
Trem24
05-28-2008, 12:26 PM
sounds great, but dont expect a stimulant energy rush like you get from noxplode since both of these products are stimulant free.
Ya that's the main reason why I am switching because they are stimulant free.
brooketherocknv
05-28-2008, 04:45 PM
I'm using Muscle Armor by EAS and Pump Fuel by GNC it seems to be going well so far. What do you think of mixing CM(Muscle Armor) with CEE(Pump Fuel)?
chinchillables
05-28-2008, 05:05 PM
Stimulant free is the way to go...always.
http://b65.us/getbig/lol.jpg
So today I invested in my first ever creatine product...NO Shotgun. Comments and questions...
- I was an idiot and I mixed it with room-temperature water. Tasted horrible. Tomorrow I'll try it with cold water...hopefully that'll help.
- I took it 25 minutes before my workout, the label recommends 20. However, I didn't feel any pump until 35-40 minutes into my workout. Does this mean I should drink it earlier, like say 1 hour prior to my workout, or is this just because it's my first time?
- The pump was great and lasted until the end of my workout. I felt bigger than ever (though I'm not big at all...5'10 147).
- The crash sucked. Anything I can do about that?
G0re0bsessed
05-28-2008, 08:59 PM
- I was an idiot and I mixed it with room-temperature water. Tasted horrible. Tomorrow I'll try it with cold water...hopefully that'll help.
You should've tasted the old flavor. This new one is like dessert by comparison.
db2012
05-28-2008, 09:25 PM
I have tried about 8 different brands, and I was most happy with Muscletechs: Creakic.
BroncoNation07
05-28-2008, 10:22 PM
I've been taking Animal Pump daily for four months. Switched to Universal Shock Therapy last week to get more bang for my buck, and I love it.
CONTROLLED LABS
05-29-2008, 12:40 PM
Ya that's the main reason why I am switching because they are stimulant free.
I see, I think you will enjoy both the green bulge and purple wraath :)
what flavor wraath did you get?
Derrick101
05-29-2008, 12:56 PM
Anyone try this Swedish one Robert Downey says he used for training for Iron Man?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/robert_downey_training.htm
Vitargo CGL
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutrex/vitargo.html
"His son did notice his dad?s increasing size. Downey had to bulk up for the Iron Man part and used a combination of exercise and creatine. ?I?m a big martial arts guy. but as far as looking good on screen. I started taking this creatine from Sweden. It?s a legal thing. People say it [creatine] bloats you. So you are putting on size, but you also look like you just ate five strombolis. But this stuff is non-bloating creatine. When I was taking it, I looked really jacked and then four hours after taking it, I looked like a shrunken monkey again. But I also worked my a** off doing it!?"
http://icydk.com/category/robert-downey-jr/
-Merfolk-
05-29-2008, 01:07 PM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/creatine.html How is this ?
getitupordie
05-29-2008, 01:57 PM
I've been mixing Dymatize Creatine with WF. Started Monday, and it tastes pretty good, and my veins are coming out a llot more, and energy is better. Dymatize was way cheaper then Green Mag and it's a good product.
scotish268
05-29-2008, 08:12 PM
http://www.8-ballnutrition.com/
there creatine is the best stuff on the market 4 time more bioavailable than any other monohydrate creatine out there, all there stuff is the best out there except they dont have any testosterone type stuff but i love there creatine clear and edge stuff has had me put on 15lbs of muscle in 4 weeks and the other 6 weeks two different times now
CONTROLLED LABS
05-29-2008, 09:48 PM
I've been mixing Dymatize Creatine with WF. Started Monday, and it tastes pretty good, and my veins are coming out a llot more, and energy is better. Dymatize was way cheaper then Green Mag and it's a good product.
glad to hear it, but bulk creatine doesnt have everything that green magnitude does
pu12en12g
05-29-2008, 10:52 PM
Plan on switching to Green Bulge and throwing in Purple Wrath.
Hell yea, welcome to the revolution :cool:
samsingh
06-01-2008, 07:14 AM
Celltech For the most part I heard that muscletech products are crap, Universal storm is cheap but works well
So normal monohydrate or cellmass help me out
totally agree with ya,celltech hardcore is a crap did nothing 4 me whereas UN storn is perfect in my case till now tried/consumed three can's .
universal = less price and excellent products .
Nitric28
06-01-2008, 11:46 AM
So confused I thought its all the same crap. Hearing so much crap not working from people is getting me so messed up.
beefy1234
06-01-2008, 11:49 PM
Animal Pump Owns All Other Creatine Products!!!!!!!!!!
user905890545
06-02-2008, 12:11 AM
The only creatine product ive ever used is " Isatori Morph" .... garbage !!! felt as much of a rush i do drinking lucozade,, like afew others i dont have a ***** clue which creatine to buy casue theres soo many and all the companys write such a amazing things about there own products thats its hard to belive half the stuff thats said....
so could anyone recommend a creatine product or stack that genuinly works with some valid results or reasons... ?
would be appreciated bigtime
jcfarinacci
06-02-2008, 02:18 AM
I think it all comes down to personal preference... I have taken monohydrate with good results but had a lot of bloating and GI issues. I currently ake Kre-Alkalyn with good resulds and no bloat. Go figure... I guess it wouldnt hurt if you try as we all know this sport is about trial and error.
blueboy22
06-02-2008, 07:14 AM
The only creatine product ive ever used is " Isatori Morph" .... garbage !!! felt as much of a rush i do drinking lucozade,, like afew others i dont have a ***** clue which creatine to buy casue theres soo many and all the companys write such a amazing things about there own products thats its hard to belive half the stuff thats said....
so could anyone recommend a creatine product or stack that genuinly works with some valid results or reasons... ?
would be appreciated bigtime
If you are expecting a "rush" from creatine, you aren't going to get it unless it is a caffeine/combo product. Morph is not designed to be a stimulant.
Two options that I have used that contain caffeine (which will give you the rush) and creatine are Straight Jacked by BCL and Animal Pump (which I love).
golden.eye04
06-02-2008, 10:02 AM
The only creatine product ive ever used is " Isatori Morph" .... garbage !!! felt as much of a rush i do drinking lucozade,, like afew others i dont have a ***** clue which creatine to buy casue theres soo many and all the companys write such a amazing things about there own products thats its hard to belive half the stuff thats said....
so could anyone recommend a creatine product or stack that genuinly works with some valid results or reasons... ?
would be appreciated bigtime
First, try a good creatine monohydrate eg. Prolab's... along with a good protein and carb diet n see the amazing results u get .........
romanista10
06-02-2008, 12:18 PM
what is your guys' opinion on Purple K, Kre-Alkalyn creatine I keep hearing that it is the best but I don't know so I wanna know what you guys think?
JayKL149
06-02-2008, 02:03 PM
Prolab micronized creatine monohydrate. Cheap and in my opinion and from my research monohydrate is the best form.
itzfrank
06-02-2008, 02:38 PM
what is your guys' opinion on Purple K, Kre-Alkalyn creatine I keep hearing that it is the best but I don't know so I wanna know what you guys think?
If you mean the purple pills? I took these and personally don't think it did much.
skybluevodka123
06-02-2008, 10:50 PM
green mag the best as it is good value for money, tastes good, no side effects for me and instant results.
ponarona19
06-02-2008, 11:34 PM
Well has anyone tried Jacked Stack-Kre-alk-lyn form www.quest-nutrition.com it gave me 50pounds on my bench press in 2 months.
If you order refer me as Ron this stuff is great. I used to take creatine but it hurt my stomach. But with this stuff there is no crash and you get awesome energy before workouts. It also taste great with no Loading Phase. Good Price too.
colby2709
06-03-2008, 01:31 AM
I'd like to have people's opinion on a specific case
If one takes Creatine Monohydrate and also happens to take some gainer that contains crea mono, is it just useless and should take a simpler gainer?
i'm asking this cuz I plan on starting a cycle of crea mono and researched a little to see what gainer is the best/cheapest. I saw that some gainer contain up to 4g of mono per serving which would make the crea mono purchase useless as I've read 5g/day is enough...
Thoughts?
Drew2430
06-03-2008, 10:55 AM
Any ever tried the After Max? Label says it has creatine mono with 40g of carbs and proteins each. Also reads like a meal replacement.
CONTROLLED LABS
06-03-2008, 11:21 AM
green mag the best as it is good value for money, tastes good, no side effects for me and instant results.
glad to hear it and we also offer free samples of green magnitude if you check the link in my signature below :)
Drew2430
06-03-2008, 11:38 AM
Whats the best pre and post workout stack from Cont. Labs? I can only afford 2 mixes at a time.
DoWork1
06-03-2008, 06:00 PM
I just picked up a Mono from GNC. How many times a day are you supposed to take it?
yodadude16
06-03-2008, 06:02 PM
I just picked up a Mono from GNC. How many times a day are you supposed to take it?
reading the label might be useful...
TurboBuff
06-04-2008, 04:00 AM
I just picked up a Mono from GNC. How many times a day are you supposed to take it?
Fail
Aussie Flare
06-04-2008, 04:52 AM
Whats the best pre and post workout stack from Cont. Labs? I can only afford 2 mixes at a time.
White Flood pre
Green Mag post
OR
Green Mag pre
Golden Finish post
plenty more other combo's though!
jrrb18
06-04-2008, 05:02 AM
Mono from GNC, because is working for me !!