Best Overall Creatine Product?

[lens_d]

Funny you feel nothing from NO Explode. I thought that stuff was supposed to be one of the better NO products out there. superpump 250 and NANO vapor have worked well for me i love the extra pump I get from NO.


BSN is a proven company they should have good products. Creatine is a proven supp as well of course it should work for you. i have used musseltech cell tech but hardly noticed much. I bought the stuff on sale from bb.com 20 bucks for 1000g cant go wrong. I have been getting good results from it. Also taking a few other supps at the moment so kind of hard to tell if it’s the Creatine alone.

[bmore20]

I just ordered green magnitude. Hopefully I get some good results.

i been on green mag for about 1 month. i have noticed good gains in endurance. i feel like i can out run everyone along with get that extra last pump in.

[coolmarine24]

Funny you feel nothing from NO Explode. I thought that stuff was supposed to be one of the better NO products out there. superpump 250 and NANO vapor have worked well for me i love the extra pump I get from NO.


BSN is a proven company they should have good products. Creatine is a proven supp as well of course it should work for you. i have used musseltech cell tech but hardly noticed much. I bought the stuff on sale from bb.com 20 bucks for 1000g cant go wrong. I have been getting good results from it. Also taking a few other supps at the moment so kind of hard to tell if it?s the Creatine alone.

I hear NO Explode gave some people great results too but when I take it, (2 scoops) I do not feel the pump or energy that most people do, I guess NO Explode is just not for me, but I will finish it. For now I need creatine for after workouts, will SIZE ON be ok to take even though I am taking NO EXPLODE before workouts? The GNC lady said that I should never take creating while cutting!!!

[lens_d]

I hear NO Explode gave some people great results too but when I take it, (2 scoops) I do not feel the pump or energy that most people do, I guess NO Explode is just not for me, but I will finish it. For now I need creatine for after workouts, will SIZE ON be ok to take even though I am taking NO EXPLODE before workouts? The GNC lady said that I should never take creating while cutting!!!
I use supperpump250 pre workout and put creatine in my protine shake for post workout. I think they work well together. Dont buy stuff from GNC way overpriced. Most of the people that work there have no idea what they are talkin about anyway.

Thats my experence with GNC. Ask the big guys on here people with experence tend to know better.

[simpleguy]

The GNC lady said that I should never take creatine while cutting!!!

ummm... what? LOL

that's retarded... seriously

[coolmarine24]

I use supperpump250 pre workout and put creatine in my protine shake for post workout. I think they work well together. Dont buy stuff from GNC way overpriced. Most of the people that work there have no idea what they are talkin about anyway.

Thats my experence with GNC. Ask the big guys on here people with experence tend to know better.

As of now I take NO EXPLODE before work outs and after work outs I take Optimum 100% whey protein (2scoops)......can I just add SIZE ON to my whey protein shake? or should i take the creatine separate?

[coolmarine24]

ummm... what? LOL

that's retarded... seriously

Yeah she said do not take creatine wile cutting because of the water retention....lol

[tann5000]

I was just wondering, I've been using Green Mag daily and I recently got SP 250 which also has creatine in it. Is that too much creatine?

[simpleguy]

Yeah she said do not take creatine wile cutting because of the water retention....lol


if anything SizeOn has some sugars in it (not a big amount though)... maybe go with a creatine product that doesn't have carbs, such as GreenMag or Storm

[coolmarine24]

if anything SizeOn has some sugars in it (not a big amount though)... maybe go with a creatine product that doesn't have carbs, such as GreenMag or Storm

Yeah I think I am getting green Mag...it has 0 calories!!...Size-On has 125 calories, I did not realize that until now.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I just ordered green magnitude. Hopefully I get some good results. awesome, keep us posted on how you like it :)


i been on green mag for about 1 month. i have noticed good gains in endurance. i feel like i can out run everyone along with get that extra last pump in.
sweet, which flavor are you taking?

I was just wondering, I've been using Green Mag daily and I recently got SP 250 which also has creatine in it. Is that too much creatine?that is fine. preworkout NO products that have creatine, have very little added in


Yeah I think I am getting green Mag...it has 0 calories!!...Size-On has 125 calories, I did not realize that until now. yup, its great on a cut or on a bulk

[seanward]

I have been taking ON Creatine Monohydrate for almost a week now and am hearing so many different opinions from ppl i know, I want an experienced persons opinion on this.

Will I retain water weight?
if so, how much?
I am trying to lose fat, is this OK to take?

TIA

[IronMan9201]

As of now I take NO EXPLODE before work outs and after work outs I take Optimum 100% whey protein (2scoops)......can I just add SIZE ON to my whey protein shake? or should i take the creatine separate?

ha um definately don't mix size-on or green mag in a protein shake. well unless you want to test your manhood on drinking fruity chocolate green surprize :) however if you got like an unflavored creatine such as mono or micronized that would be fine to add to almost anything

[IronMan9201]

I have been taking ON Creatine Monohydrate for almost a week now and am hearing so many different opinions from ppl i know, I want an experienced persons opinion on this.

Will I retain water weight?
if so, how much?
I am trying to lose fat, is this OK to take?

TIA

my experience with mono is that yea you defiantely tend to retain water. probly just a couple pounds at most. as for loosing fat, monohydrate will not slow down your fat loss however it WILL make you look as if you are not loosing fat. this is because the water you retain makes you look a bit puffy. so all you have to know is if your thinking " hey i'm training hard and yet i still look like i have the same body fat" that it might just be the water weight which will go away once you stop taking creatine. you can also take a diuretic like Expel or that new one from muscle tech when your done with your creatine to get rid of the excess water and even look a bit more cut.

[seanward]

ok cool. I am taking CL REDuction & CL Orange Triad at the same time trying to cut fat at the same time as get stronger. I have heard I should cycle off in 2 months and take 2 wks off to see the strength gains and drop the water weight so I have it marked on the calender when i will cycle off it for a bit.

[Arnold11]

what do you guys think about Cellmass

[SkellorX]

size on.

[gridironwarrior]

Def. Storm

[CONTROLLED LABS]

ok cool. I am taking CL REDuction & CL Orange Triad at the same time trying to cut fat at the same time as get stronger. I have heard I should cycle off in 2 months and take 2 wks off to see the strength gains and drop the water weight so I have it marked on the calender when i will cycle off it for a bit.

for the REDuction, that is the cycling suggestion, yes

[naturalguy]

Def. Storm

For the price/results you just can't beat Storm @ 80 servings for under $29 :eek:

We are coming out with a new flavor soon.

[gridironwarrior]

For the price/results you just can't beat Storm @ 80 servings for under $29 :eek:

We are coming out with a new flavor soon.

I can't wait!!!

[Hausen]

Into my second week or so on SizeOn, im used to the taste now.

I look noticeably bigger.

At first I had some good strength gains but now those have gone back down to a normal rate of growth.

I get great pumps now, I didnt even get good pumps off NO Xplode but i feel em on this stuff.



so i guess i can say SizeOn is great for puttin Size On, lol. but not a strength gaining supplement. aw well, thats what hard works for.



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and also, whats the deal with your body weight compared to on/off creatine?

I no longer care about my weight, i just care about muscle size, etc. but i have noticed that I havent gained a single pound of weight although im putting on notcieble amount of extra muscle in a considerably short amount of time, whats the deal?

[mikemc417]

I just started taken prolab last friday, this is my first time using creatine and I figured I'll take 10g a day for the first week then go down to 5g a day. I think I'm seeing strength gains from it already, but it may be mental.

[brentjspank]

has anyone tried MRI's anabolic switch? i thought it was good one but i never hear anyone talk about it.

[Imthe8th1der]

Mhhmm well i have read plenty of studies discrediting kre akalyn and plenty promoting it. All i can say is I have used creatine mono and had good gains but lost most of the weight when I went off the product. I then tried Kre Akalyn and had great results and when i stopped taking it about i kept about 70% of the gains I had experienced. Who knows what the truth is but my gains were much more solid and I kept more when I used kre akalyn compared to creatine mono. Give it a shot it might work better for you too

[Hatrick123]

I was using mono and have seen good results but I recently ran out. Instead of getting another bottle I went out and bought some SizeOn ( have read good reviews ). Today is day 3 and I can def. tell that it's working. I'm suprised it hasn't gotten more votes than it already has. Anyone else like this better than mono?

[simpleguy]

I was using mono and have seen good results but I recently ran out. Instead of getting another bottle I went out and bought some SizeOn ( have read good reviews ). Today is day 3 and I can def. tell that it's working. I'm suprised it hasn't gotten more votes than it already has. Anyone else like this better than mono?

been using it for almost a month now, I like it

[Coty08]

I use Muscletech Cell-Tech and i like it a lot. Most people do not. but hey thats why they have different products

[MattZ260]

BSN CellMass is a very good creatine post workout

[CONTROLLED LABS]

#1. Is SizeON a Creatine Mono only? Or mixture of various creatines, see it doesnt use Creapure

same for CL^

#2. Is Cell Mass a actual pure creatine? Or is it a post-workout volumizer stuff

creapure is only monohydrate, we dont use monohydrate in our products.

[freddddy]

I want to gain muscle and look noticeably bigger .Which is better for my goal:
1) Gaspari Nutrition Size On
2) Green MAGnitude + Whey protein
3)Controlled Labs White Flood + ProLab Creatine + Whey protein

[simpleguy]

I want to gain muscle and look noticeably bigger .Which is better for my goal:
1) Gaspari Nutrition Size On
2) Green MAGnitude + Whey protein
3)Controlled Labs White Flood + ProLab Creatine + Whey protein

foooood... a multi, some whey protein and then maybe some creatine

[brentjspank]

I think for my next creatine cycle im going to try some kre-akalyne. Im sick of getting a lot bigger on the cylce then shrinking back down when i get off.
Did u feel like you got as big on kre-akalyne as you would on other creatines Imthe8th1der?

[Frannycakes]

I'm using green mag, does it matter if I take it on non workout days?

[enYgma702]

BSN CellMass is a very good creatine post workout

This.

I just started using it... I've used Cell-Tech before and it was nasty and made me feel bloated (tho it did pack on muscle). CellMass seems much better. Tastes better, easier to drink, and no loading! And I'm slowly beginning to see gains. I like it!

[J-Cubed]

has anyone tried MRI's anabolic switch? i thought it was good one but i never hear anyone talk about it.

Yep I'm on it right now and it's not bad! The taste isn't very good but the results I'm seeing are good. My endurance has increased a lot too.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I want to gain muscle and look noticeably bigger .Which is better for my goal:
1) Gaspari Nutrition Size On
2) Green MAGnitude + Whey protein
3)Controlled Labs White Flood + ProLab Creatine + Whey protein
why these particular stacks?

I'm using green mag, does it matter if I take it on non workout days?

yes, creatine should be used daily.

[kgochenour]

Was recently recommended this, but I dont know anyone personally who is on it. What's the scoop?

[Jason515]

I have used Cell-Tech & Nitro-Tech Combos, it works quick it does good for about anybody but for me, tired of mixing it with drinks and foods on the clock. Sometime wasnt up to tasting the Nitro-tech sets. They did good job on gaining muscles but clugging them. whew. So I changed to pills to save me time since I am full time father and always busy around the clock with everything else, so I switched to Mass Stack, it works great, it works faster then the first combo I have tried for me and it only pushes for an hour then you have to work twice as hard as you are after you take the pills. Then take the creakic after the workout sure relaxes my muscles and let the first two work the muscles non stop for the next four hours. After that, I moved to Shredded Stack since I am still shredding and needs it done quicker while I bulk. It is other success by muscletech for me. I lost a lot of fat around my abs and guts but still kept my weigh stable by gaining muscles. I have to change to a size smaller in jeans (fat loss) and gain one size in shirts (muscle gains). Almost done with shredded stack, will be continuing on the workout without supplment for a month or two to see how I do without them. I might go back on the muscletech stuff later, who knows. It worked for me to support my shoulder joint problem. A great job done, and pushing.

[workouthard]

I am getting back into lifting and I picked just ordered a few suplements to use, anyone have opinions on using
ANIMAL PAK (MULI),
MUSCLE MILK (PROTIEN),
GASPIRI SUPERPUMP 250 (PRE-WORKOUT),
AND VOLU-GROW (POST WORKOUT)

these are what I came up with after a little searching.

volu-grow seems like it should be blowing up, anyone have experience?

all info is appreciated on any of em, or other suggestions,

im 31 and ive been off the weights for 10 years and gettin back in.

thanks

[Frannycakes]

I am getting back into lifting and I picked just ordered a few suplements to use, anyone have opinions on using
ANIMAL PAK (MULI),
MUSCLE MILK (PROTIEN),
GASPIRI SUPERPUMP 250 (PRE-WORKOUT),
AND VOLU-GROW (POST WORKOUT)

these are what I came up with after a little searching.

volu-grow seems like it should be blowing up, anyone have experience?

all info is appreciated on any of em, or other suggestions,

im 31 and ive been off the weights for 10 years and gettin back in.

thanks

- I took the Animal Multi whilst deployed to Iraq, tasted like ass but every multi seems the same.

- Half my platoon got swole by using MM (If you have a hard time hitting your macros, it's not a bad idea)

- No Idea

- No Idea

[simpleguy]

I am getting back into lifting and I picked just ordered a few suplements to use, anyone have opinions on using
ANIMAL PAK (MULI),
MUSCLE MILK (PROTIEN),
GASPIRI SUPERPUMP 250 (PRE-WORKOUT),
AND VOLU-GROW (POST WORKOUT)

these are what I came up with after a little searching.

volu-grow seems like it should be blowing up, anyone have experience?

all info is appreciated on any of em, or other suggestions,

im 31 and ive been off the weights for 10 years and gettin back in.

thanks

if I were you I'd keep animal pak and superpump in there, switch volugrow with something more complex which has at least protein in there (I'd go for Universal's Torrent)... and musclemilk, I think it's a bit of a waste because the mct fats are not essential, and the price is high for how much protein you get... buy some whey protein, and have that with peanut butter/almonds/olive oil to get both protein and fats

[njdevils448]

Has anyone tried Con-Cret lately?

[Jason515]

you look scary, no offense ^

LOL, I am really nice friendly guy. That pic is kinda old, am trying to find time to post older pics and new pics.

[Mike1600]

I've been using Kre-Alk. for awhile now. It's currently my creatine of choice.

I've used CM before, but I prefer Kre-Alk. for it's easy pill form and it just shows my gains better. I don't bloat, and I am making noticeably larger gains in size and weight. Of course, it's all opinion and a matter of what works best for your body.

And when I stopped using KA for awhile - I kept 70 - 80% of my size gain, so nothing major. :)

[chenknights]

I've got this one over internet advertisement and I'm kinda skeptic at first. Not until I read a testimony from a friend of mine who used the product. And wow, I can't even believe myself what happened to her. Envy as I am, I grab one. And it works!

http://elitebody.cart.net.au/cat/2003678.html

[ZB126]

I want to gain muscle and look noticeably bigger .Which is better for my goal:
1) Gaspari Nutrition Size On
2) Green MAGnitude + Whey protein
3)Controlled Labs White Flood + ProLab Creatine + Whey protein

I've tried Gaspari, MT, BSN, ON, and the GNC ones and I've always gone back to Gaspari for their creatine and pre-workouts. I'm hoping to try the CL sample packs soon so maybe you should sign up for those.

I'd say the SizeOn and Cell Mass have worked best from my experiences and SizeOn definitely tastes good. Vassive-CE didn't work all that well for me and it tasted like ass. Same with their Vassive-NO (the orange is horrendously awful) The Cell Mass grape wasn't too bad...Halo was a joke and again was hard to swallow. GNC's creatines are good but you can get better products online for cheaper.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've tried Gaspari, MT, BSN, ON, and the GNC ones and I've always gone back to Gaspari for their creatine and pre-workouts. I'm hoping to try the CL sample packs soon so maybe you should sign up for those.

I'd say the SizeOn and Cell Mass have worked best from my experiences and SizeOn definitely tastes good. Vassive-CE didn't work all that well for me and it tasted like ass. Same with their Vassive-NO (the orange is horrendously awful) The Cell Mass grape wasn't too bad...Halo was a joke and again was hard to swallow. GNC's creatines are good but you can get better products online for cheaper.

you already requested the green magnitude sample? if so, please let us know how you like it when it arrives :)

[seanward]

I have been using ON Creatine Monohydrate for 2 weeks now and feel bloated! So i researched CEE and diff types of creatine better and picked up some Cellmass yesterday. Took some yesterday and during my work-out this morning and feel really good, hoping to drop some water weight over the next few days, I am trying to cut some fat off me so bloating is not my friend right now! lol

Sean

[arshah]

so far ive only tried CEE and Sizeon. The Sizeon definitely worked beyond my expectations. The CEE was good, but did not offer the same effectiveness as Sizeon. This stuff really works.

[torn8o]

I've been using SizeOn for a little over two weeks now and totally love it. The Arctic Lemon Ice has an addicting flavor, and the stuff makes me feel GREAT.

[J.O.B.]

sizeon pills r crap any pills r crap creatine is good 4 only 2 things increase n strength b4 when takin b4 liftin and the excess water is good 2 hela shuttle nutrients like protein n the other stuff u take n2 ur muscles, the bad parts r the water weight will come off when done using whatever product n in most ppl creatine makes u drop mean dooks n upsets ur stomach


it is good but b far no miracle product

i take creatine when im bulkin 4 the fluid in my joints n helps lift heavier

[enYgma702]

if I were you I'd keep animal pak and superpump in there, switch volugrow with something more complex which has at least protein in there (I'd go for Universal's Torrent)... and musclemilk, I think it's a bit of a waste because the mct fats are not essential, and the price is high for how much protein you get... buy some whey protein, and have that with peanut butter/almonds/olive oil to get both protein and fats


When I was on MuscleMilk I did get bigger, but I didn't like the fats it had and it IS really expensive. It tastes very good, though, and it mixes easily. I would only recommend MM to people that aren't losing weight, and definitely not pre-workout. Post-workout, maybe...

[slatedogg187]

sizeon pills r crap any pills r crap creatine is good 4 only 2 things increase n strength b4 when takin b4 liftin and the excess water is good 2 hela shuttle nutrients like protein n the other stuff u take n2 ur muscles, the bad parts r the water weight will come off when done using whatever product n in most ppl creatine makes u drop mean dooks n upsets ur stomach


it is good but b far no miracle product

i take creatine when im bulkin 4 the fluid in my joints n helps lift heavier

Monohydrate creatine will give you the most water weight type gains. The other types of creatine don't yield as much water weight. Mix it with juice instead of water the glucose in the juice will help with absorption and you won't have the squirts anymore.

[milly51]

profesional strength creatin by six star muscle. i have tried a lot of different creatine products and i havent seen the gains from any of the other products like i have with this one.

[simpleguy]

sizeon pills r crap any pills r crap creatine is good 4 only 2 things increase n strength b4 when takin b4 liftin and the excess water is good 2 hela shuttle nutrients like protein n the other stuff u take n2 ur muscles, the bad parts r the water weight will come off when done using whatever product n in most ppl creatine makes u drop mean dooks n upsets ur stomach
it is good but b far no miracle product
i take creatine when im bulkin 4 the fluid in my joints n helps lift heavier


please stop writing like that, it's a nightmare to read this

[madcowboy65]

I'm ordering GM and PW today. Can anyone tell me if PW is an NO product.

[alphaflag]

PW is an EAA product. White Flood is an NO product

[madcowboy65]

PW is an EAA product. White Flood is an NO product


OK. Thank you.

[IronG]

PW is an EAA product. White Flood is an NO product

Is White Flood more of a NO product, or more like a pre-workout focus/energy product loaded with stims? Which category would it fall into? I thought that Controlled Labs signature NO product was "White Blood?" Is this correct?

[J.O.B.]

Is White Flood more of a NO product, or more like a pre-workout focus/energy product loaded with stims? Which category would it fall into? I thought that Controlled Labs signature NO product was "White Blood?" Is this correct?

most no NO powder products r used 4 pre workout, they contain arginine (NO)

[slatedogg187]

most no NO powder products r used 4 pre workout, they contain arginine (NO)

arginine helps with blood flow, and that "perpetual pump".

P.S. I love Purple Wraath! mix it with ice.

[cwooten30]

I've ready many many threads about creatins, probably haven't taken as many creatines as some but i've taken NO Shotgun, NO Explode, Many other brands but Cellucor M5 at GNC as far as my experience is hands down better NO COMPARISON. I mean the worst thing about cellucor besides the taste which has gotten better is the price. This stuff is ridiculously high for creatine but you work out with this stuff you'll hardly EVER get sore. Recovery time is great. I mean people try and judge preworkout supps and all they talk about is taste, energy, pumps, but creatine to me is for recovery. I mean what else could you ask for work your ace off 2 hours 5 times a day and hardly feel like you've done anything but yet you look in the mirror and its like you've grown over night.

I'm looking try a new creatine so far looks like it might be SIZE ON since i've seen so many good things about it. But M5 gonna be tough to be. Sometimes spending the extra $$$ is worth it....

[Ercyboo]

I would have to say Cell Tech by Muscle Tech, I used the knock off version by six star, and I had great results, then I put out more money for the real stuff and I would say it had more effect. So Cell Tech is my favorite for now, specially the fruit punch taste, its like kool aid I love it.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm ordering GM and PW today. Can anyone tell me if PW is an NO product.


PW is an EAA product. White Flood is an NO product
exactly. both will enhance endurance as well :)

Is White Flood more of a NO product, or more like a pre-workout focus/energy product loaded with stims? Which category would it fall into? I thought that Controlled Labs signature NO product was "White Blood?" Is this correct?
its both, preworkout energizer and NO product. white blood is similar but is stim free and capsules.

arginine helps with blood flow, and that "perpetual pump".

P.S. I love Purple Wraath! mix it with ice.

glad you love it, seems to be happening a lot over here :D

[palanilopez12]

OK. Thank you.

if you are going with controlled labs...i would suggest green mag and white flood preworkout and purple wraath for ur intra workout...their products work very well for me...and u can find them for cheap on here if you buy the stack

[frshlkjuce]

I think a lot of this depends on your goal. If you are trying to add mass, I find that SizeOn worked very well for me. It is a fantastic product. If you are concerned about carbs/calories, Green Mag is a great option. I don't think you can go wrong with either one, and you can get samples of each from their respective companies (said sample from CL sold me on Green Mag and White Flood last week actually, I was already good w/ PW). Stay hydrated, eat right, supplement right and you should make steady gains if you work at it. Just remember that creatine is not an overnight sensation. It will help you get there, but it wont do the work for you.

Oh and to the guy asking about arginine, its a precursor to creatine, nitric oxide, and urea (so says my boards study material right in front of me), so it will definitely help with NO and Creatine.

[The_Animal_79]

I used size on and got great results! My strenght went up tremendously. Just started my loading phase on sunday after cycling it for about a month and half..Excited too see if i get the same results after it kicks in :D

[CONTROLLED LABS]

if you are going with controlled labs...i would suggest green mag and white flood preworkout and purple wraath for ur intra workout...their products work very well for me...and u can find them for cheap on here if you buy the stack
awesome stack. between the stack discount and the 10% off coupon code, the products are a steal for the amount of servings :)

I think a lot of this depends on your goal. If you are trying to add mass, I find that SizeOn worked very well for me. It is a fantastic product. If you are concerned about carbs/calories, Green Mag is a great option. I don't think you can go wrong with either one, and you can get samples of each from their respective companies (said sample from CL sold me on Green Mag and White Flood last week actually, I was already good w/ PW). Stay hydrated, eat right, supplement right and you should make steady gains if you work at it. Just remember that creatine is not an overnight sensation. It will help you get there, but it wont do the work for you.

Oh and to the guy asking about arginine, its a precursor to creatine, nitric oxide, and urea (so says my boards study material right in front of me), so it will definitely help with NO and Creatine.

very good info right here :)

your in med school or a resident?

[slatedogg187]

Will PW be more effective mixing more than the recommended 2 scoops?

[enYgma702]

I'm curious... I read that CellMass is supposed to be cycled for only 12 weeks... NO Xplode also. Is there a reason for this? I assume your body adapts to it and the results taper off... is that true?

[slatedogg187]

I'm curious... I read that CellMass is supposed to be cycled for only 12 weeks... NO Xplode also. Is there a reason for this? I assume your body adapts to it and the results taper off... is that true?

yeah its true. IMO NO xplod is absolute crap. The WORST supplement I've ever tried. All it did for me was xplod out my ass and give me headaches. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but with cellmass or any creatine product for that matter your body get used to the creatine supplement and would slow its own production of atp after a while. Cycling creatine is optimal for maintaining proper atp function.

[madcowboy65]

awesome stack. between the stack discount and the 10% off coupon code, the products are a steal for the amount of servings :)


very good info right here :)

your in med school or a resident?


Where do you get the 10% of coupon code.

[verticalx1]

Ordered Green Mag (The lemonade flavor) and started working out today (I'm 145lb and 5'11). You guys think It will help me? I currently can curl 15 pnds mostly (sometimes 20lb but very little reps).

Do you guys think I will see results after a few days with it and such?

[Dedicated37]

Ordered Green Mag (The lemonade flavor) and started working out today (I'm 145lb and 5'11). You guys think It will help me? I currently can curl 15 pnds mostly (sometimes 20lb but very little reps).

Do you guys think I will see results after a few days with it and such?

It should help you and you should see results after a few days... Although remember that your diet is going to be number one in helping you see results.

[Dedicated37]

Where do you get the 10% of coupon code.

http://www.retailmenot.com/view/bodybuilding.com

[Dedicated37]

Will PW be more effective mixing more than the recommended 2 scoops?

Some people mix 3 scoops. I'm not sure how much more effective it would be though... CL reps?

[J.O.B.]

► "My goal when I come here everyday is to make sure that if somebody beats me it's not because they outworked me." - Layne Norton

► "Many things come and go... Your body & your motivation, dedication and lifestyle stay with you to the very end."

► "If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place."

► "Hard times don't last, hard people do."

very nice quotes i might have 2 steal a couple 4 myself

[Rabnud]

I was taking cellmass for a while then decided to switch things up now im taking anabolic halo. Cellmass worked good just figured id try something new both taste good

[roid_monkey]

- I took the Animal Multi whilst deployed to Iraq, tasted like ass but every multi seems the same.


aren't you supposed to swallow vitamins with water?

[Frannycakes]

aren't you supposed to swallow vitamins with water?

Yeah....

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Will PW be more effective mixing more than the recommended 2 scoops?
most use 1-2 scoops, however some have gone to 3-4 scoops. its scenario dependent

Where do you get the 10% of coupon code.
its listed on the forum somewhere

Ordered Green Mag (The lemonade flavor) and started working out today (I'm 145lb and 5'11). You guys think It will help me? I currently can curl 15 pnds mostly (sometimes 20lb but very little reps).

Do you guys think I will see results after a few days with it and such?

should be great and help you get your strength up, keep us posted

[slatedogg187]

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;254428151]most use 1-2 scoops, however some have gone to 3-4 scoops. its scenario dependent

I tried 3 scoops last night, had a fantastic work out the pump was unbelievable. BUT I'm also in the middle of my havoc cycle so that is probably why haha

[AmericanblooD_8]

Cell-tech has really given me that edge that I need.

[J.O.B.]

I got one for you guys. I have been taking noxplode and cellmass for a while and I think they work great but I have been shopping around and I am pretty sure I can by AAKG, Glutamine, and Creatine Ethyl Ester individually and save a ton of money. I know that the BSN products have all kinds of other stuff designed to increase uptake and transport and everything but I am on pretty fixed income and the cost is an issue. My question is, aside from the main ingredients (creatine, glutamine, arginine), how much is all the other stuff in the BSN products really worth? Do you think I will notice a significant difference?

that cinnamon extract stuff in it is really good to jack up insulin, caffine is in the no xplode, aakg is alright but i prefer just straight l-arginine it come in powder, and im not a big fan of either and havnt seen the back in awhile so i cant tell anything else

[J.O.B.]

Cell-tech has really given me that edge that I need.

thats just straight sugar, come on dude muscletech is over priced BS

youl get the same effect throwing creatine into a Gatorade

[CONTROLLED LABS]

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;254428151]most use 1-2 scoops, however some have gone to 3-4 scoops. its scenario dependent

I tried 3 scoops last night, had a fantastic work out the pump was unbelievable. BUT I'm also in the middle of my havoc cycle so that is probably why haha

glad you are enjoying purple wraath

[bobcat11]

Has anyone use Prolab's creatine? I use Green magnitude now but I gotta save me some money so I'm switching back to mono.

[AmericanblooD_8]

thats just straight sugar, come on dude muscletech is over priced BS

youl get the same effect throwing creatine into a Gatorade

Then theres no difference right? Plus I was jokeing on the plug Lmao.

[enYgma702]

Ordered Green Mag (The lemonade flavor) and started working out today (I'm 145lb and 5'11). You guys think It will help me? I currently can curl 15 pnds mostly (sometimes 20lb but very little reps).

Do you guys think I will see results after a few days with it and such?

If your diet is on point you should see some results within a week or two. Remember to challenge yourself; if you can put up 20 lbs for 4-6 reps keep pushing until you can up the weight; that helps build both muscle AND strength.

[Ram89]

iv been going through alot of these comments and im not seeing a monohydrate thats sticking out...so any chance of helping?? A nice and cheap/ but effective 1 preferably...looking to take it with white flood.

Cheers

[tkahne88]

Has anyone use Prolab's creatine? I use Green magnitude now but I gotta save me some money so I'm switching back to mono.

I used Prolab mono last year. It helped tremendously. I did 2 cycles of it and drank enough water. didn't experience any bloating in stomach, nor did i get much water retention. (i think when i got off i lost 5lbs, which would be water weight. and 5lbs throughout the whole body isn't much) I did feel strength increase and seen the size and am still holding it today.

Try it out. its worth the money.

[dmbphan041]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/creatine.html

[tkahne88]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/creatine.html

Higher Power micronized creatine absorbed a lot of water into my intestines. I can tell you it did not feel very pleasant.

[Irish Iron]

i know this is a not widely taken creatine, and I've only taken a few different types of creatine, but I love XLevol, its from evolution labs and I've found it better for me than halo. I just love the ****, no bloat, intense pumps, caffeine free. I'm not sure if its the waxy maize in it that makes ya nuts to move the weight, but I recommend gettin a sample pack.

[dmbphan041]

Higher Power micronized creatine absorbed a lot of water into my intestines. I can tell you it did not feel very pleasant.

ahhhhh, nevermind then. What's a good mono?

[EYE0WNY0U]

Green MAGnitde without a doubt.
The sour green apple flavor is delicious! I'd drink it with every meal if it was economical and it wasn't overkill haha
I'm gonna try out the lemonade flavor soon as well.

[8pac]

Just started Sizeon, put on 3 lbs in first 3 days thus far. Im sure some is attributed to water weight tho... So Im liking it a lot.

[tkahne88]

ahhhhh, nevermind then. What's a good mono?

I like prolab monohydrate creatine. It works, simply put. i might even pick some up today!
Read a few posts up i explain it more.

[Rheal]

Ordered White Flood (Electric Lemonade), Green Mag (Green Apple), and Purple Wrath (Juicy Grape). Just coming off Palumbo Diet, lost 41lbs hoping this will be the kick in the pants I need.

[J.O.B.]

Then theres no difference right? Plus I was jokeing on the plug Lmao.

ul b surprised how many love that crap n swear by any frm muscletech

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Green MAGnitde without a doubt.
The sour green apple flavor is delicious! I'd drink it with every meal if it was economical and it wasn't overkill haha
I'm gonna try out the lemonade flavor soon as well.
awesome. many on this board have said its the best tasting supplement around. the lemonade is just as amazing as the apple. :)

Ordered White Flood (Electric Lemonade), Green Mag (Green Apple), and Purple Wrath (Juicy Grape). Just coming off Palumbo Diet, lost 41lbs hoping this will be the kick in the pants I need.
excellent stack. 41 pounds is a huge accomplishment, congrats. how long did it take to drop that much?

[CarnyVore]

I get great results with it. It does cause your muscles to atrophy when you go off it. But I cycle on and off and have been able to build on previous gains.

[Rheal]

excellent stack. 41 pounds is a huge accomplishment, congrats. how long did it take to drop that much?[/QUOTE]

Thx, from labour day til this week.

[Mastamind89]

I've been using KA for a while now and my gains have been pretty good.

[lenrossen]

Well, the best is hard to say. I've been taking creatine since 1996 (on and off). Only in the past 4 months did I switch from the monohydrate to the ethyl ester. Both variations produce the same results, yet the ethyl ester does not promote bloating, which had always been my primary reason to stop taking creatine.

I am 60 yrs old, lifting weights since I was 19, consistently. A classic ectomorph, since being able to stay with creatine EE I've gained 6-7 pounds, hard earned. I combine the creatine with many difference proteins (hydrolyzed, CFM, Ion-exchange, caseins, etc), with good results.

I purchased the Axis Labs CEE, made in the USA and not Germany.

Len
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[Antz1980]

Anyone still taking just Mono these days?

[Sapper408]

is it 3 months on/ 1 month off with sizeon?

Thanks in advance

[Valenzuelatech]

For price
value
purity
&
potency

you cant go wrong with Universal Creatine Monohydrate.

[tj_whit]

Yea, just mono here. Did the cell mass thing, didnt notice anything special, couldn't choke down grape size on, was considering Green Buldge but, iunno.
Just mono at the moment.

[JCarvell]

whats the best out there i need to pack on some size fast?????????

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Yea, just mono here. Did the cell mass thing, didnt notice anything special, couldn't choke down grape size on, was considering Green Buldge but, iunno.
Just mono at the moment.
you will love green bulge, let us know your feedback if you give it a shot :)

[kingeric]

Mono here too. Cheaper and it does the same thing.

[WaynePD]

Mono here too. Cheaper and it does the same thing.

Universal Creatine Chews
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/chews.html

are these the same as the Universal Creatine Monohydrate?

[BIG CHUCKY]

i love the six star fruit punch creatine. hated the taste at first but the results are as good as cell tech in my opinion!

[MrCheeky]

I recently tried a sample of Green Magnitude and liked it and will be purchasing some.

Question: I have been taking Dymatize Energized Expand pre-workout. Should I stop taking the Expand and just the Green Mag pre-workout? Or should I take the Expand pre and the Green Mag post-workout?

Feedback: I gave Animal Flex a shot + ON Opti-Men. Unfortunately I had bad reflux from one of the pills from the Flex pack. I will be switching back to Orange Triad multis for now.

[DarkDays]

I gained 10 pounds while on cellmass for 2.5 months. I like the stuff. I'm not saying it's the best, but I do think it helped with my gains. I'm curious to see how much of a difference I would have seen had I been on just plain mono though.

[semperzar]

i just found out the Flex Wheeler has endorsed EFX's kre-alkalyn.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I recently tried a sample of Green Magnitude and liked it and will be purchasing some.

Question: I have been taking Dymatize Energized Expand pre-workout. Should I stop taking the Expand and just the Green Mag pre-workout? Or should I take the Expand pre and the Green Mag post-workout?

Feedback: I gave Animal Flex a shot + ON Opti-Men. Unfortunately I had bad reflux from one of the pills from the Flex pack. I will be switching back to Orange Triad multis for now.

glad to hear it. how did you like the taste? are you gonna go with apple or lemonade?

hold off on green mag until the expand is finished. once done combine green magnitude with a creatine free preworkout product like white flood.

glad you are jumping back on orange triad after a brief hiatus, many seem to be doing that :)

[BIGBLACKBEAST]

I give props to Gaspari Size On on this one ... I am very interested in trying the kre alkalyn though. Size On gave me gains and strength everytime that I've been on it and I would recommend it to anyone. Not trying to sound like an infomercial, but the stuff worked for me

[Lifter4Life59]

just got some monohydrate creatine by creaform and started the loading phase yesterday will post on it after a bit, but its a good price and seems just like any mono out there

[bdarrell1981]

If you had to pick just ONE creatine product, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick a product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take creatine, if creatine works, or why some creatines do not work. Just list your absolute favorite creatine product and give your detailed reason.)

CELL TECH IS MY CRAAAAAAAAACK IT JUST WORKS FOR ME TO EACH IS OWN

[MrCheeky]

glad to hear it. how did you like the taste? are you gonna go with apple or lemonade?

hold off on green mag until the expand is finished. once done combine green magnitude with a creatine free preworkout product like white flood.

glad you are jumping back on orange triad after a brief hiatus, many seem to be doing that :)

I have ordered the green apple. I liked the taste, some of the other products are a bit too sickly sweet. The Expand will be finished for about a week before I get the Green Mag.

You suggest that both Green Mag & White Flood be taken pre-workout?

I've got a free WF sample coming with the order so I will give it a try.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have ordered the green apple. I liked the taste, some of the other products are a bit too sickly sweet. The Expand will be finished for about a week before I get the Green Mag.

You suggest that both Green Mag & White Flood be taken pre-workout?

I've got a free WF sample coming with the order so I will give it a try.

awesome. yes, you can combine them in one shake and take it 30 minutes pre. take a rice cake or granola bar with it too :)

[cincykid]

Kre-Alklyn by far in my opinion. buffered monohydrate

[madcowboy65]

Thanks for all the help on the GM and PW. I received mine Saturday and started taking it yesterday. Thanks again and I hope it works.

[ccsilva73]

Be careful when closing the lid on that WF, mines did not get tight enough and some air went in and it looks like crap...REally...got hard, bubbly and dark brown in color. I had half a tub left too. I still have it, just in case it gets soft again.

[AronP24]

the 'Purp' as I used to call it, which is Size-on mixed with Purple Wraath mixed together and sipped during workout absolutely helped me with gains I hadnt seen before or since....an AMAZING combo (obviously the creatine product in that would be size-on)...even on a cut this combo is ridiculous

[Dukey77777]

My main creatine product is Twinlab Creatine Fuel Stack, it allows me to get my Creatine and Glutamine together easily.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/tl/cstack.html

When I'm loading, I also supplement that with some Universal Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, directly after my workout.

I've definitely noticed a difference in just a couple months of taking it.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Thanks for all the help on the GM and PW. I received mine Saturday and started taking it yesterday. Thanks again and I hope it works.
awesome, keep us posted on your results :)

[Jason515]

I have tried Cell Tech is the best. Creakic is ok it just doesnt do much as Cell Tech. I am going to stop taking creatine supplments for a while, going to do the food intakes that carries creatine.

[sactown]

I used a generic creatine (CGT 10) initially and it was aight, but w/ size-on I finish workouts feelin stronger than when I started. I'm actually starting to cut back to 3/4 of a scoop, cuz I get the same results.

I only take it on days I lift, which is every other day. The only drawback is the sugar....................




I give props to Gaspari Size On on this one ... I am very interested in trying the kre alkalyn though. Size On gave me gains and strength everytime that I've been on it and I would recommend it to anyone. Not trying to sound like an infomercial, but the stuff worked for me

[dasboot814]

In my experience Con-Cret has worked the best for me. I have taken both the powder and the capsules, and would recommend both of them. They are expensive, but well worth the money. I started seeing gains in strength in all my lifts and muscle size within the first workout. Plus you don't have to worry about loading it, you just take the recommended dosage, which for me was 2 capsules, or 2 scoops a day. Also, there is no sugar, or fillers in this product which is a positive becuase it doesn't have any calories. If you haven't given Con-Cret a try, I would highly recommend you do so.

[geiger5]

ive been hearing alot about purple K. Any experiences?

[chuckiss6]

I just got my sample of green mag today and first impression is awesome, mixes great not like other creatine products ive had, you cant even taste the mix besides the flavor which great to by the way, tastes like juice. Will defineltly pick up a bottle of this now, thanks controlled

[naturalguy]

For price
value
purity
&
potency

you cant go wrong with Universal Creatine Monohydrate.

True, great quality, great price, you can't go wrong. We also manufacture our own products in our own gmp facility. We don't outsource anything.


Universal Creatine Chews
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/chews.html

are these the same as the Universal Creatine Monohydrate?

The creatine chews are a flavored creatine chew product. A little different from plain creatine monohydrate powder.

[albertsaitov]

Have never tried creatine before ! Want to know how it really works & how to take it ! Also have heard of creasafe. What is it ? Is it better than creatine ? thank you. Sincerely yours Albert

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I just got my sample of green mag today and first impression is awesome, mixes great not like other creatine products ive had, you cant even taste the mix besides the flavor which great to by the way, tastes like juice. Will defineltly pick up a bottle of this now, thanks controlled

awesome. glad the samples are working well for people. I always love to try before I buy, this is why we made the samples available :)

[chuckiss6]

hey controlled, is it ok to take green mag with more water than 8 floz?

[samguy015]

def cell tech hands down.

[SHOWTIME]

There is a brand new pre-workout/NO-booster/creatine player in town!!
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=111743821

PreSurge by Athletic Edge Nutrition now looks to me to be a superior choice with at least a couple new ingredients brought to the sports nutrition market, most notably Russian Tarragon ext. to enhance the entire formula.
This is not your typical arginine loaded failed NO-nitric oxide booster that seem to still come out, even though it's been proven awhile ago, arginine fails at increasing nitric oxide in humans who get enough in diet.

Also the patented Creapure brand of creatine monohydrate: The most proven, studied and safe creatine of all. The king.

Real science, true synergy and a great price.

I'll post my thoughts when I get to use it. Hope we hear from some others on this PreSURGE!!

This is good news. :)


Thanks! Looking forward to this product, cause I KNOW how good IntrAbolic is.


For those interested,
PreSurge is new and is already gaining a lot of popularity, with russian tarragon extract and Creapure, it sets PreSurge apart from anything else as out there. With CreaPure creatine in it, it already makes it IMO better than a lot of other supplements who have different types of creatine other than creaPURE .
Here is a link to some reviews and the FAQ if you wanna check it out

FAQ (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=111743821)
Some reviews (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=112232981)

[fischetti]

awesome. glad the samples are working well for people. I always love to try before I buy, this is why we made the samples available :)

Controlled labs guy you rock!if i had a supplement company i would have you on my side;)jeez white flood and green mag never get bad reviews the proof is in the pudding,im yet to try youre products but will soon will.

[justdoit08]

hi people,

right now im on green mag but sooner or later i want to try a stack and therefore i cant make my mind up between CL or BSN, although bsn got sued for the cem3, ive heard some good reviews about the new avpt formula,

As im after extra strength, pump, and focus during my workout along with explosive energy an non stop increase in power everytime i go to gym ive chosen to stacks and need you people to give me your opinions,

im just on green mag now and im getting some good gains but i want to either:

use green mag, white flood and purple wrath or

bsn no explode, bsn cellmass and nitrix all of them the new avpt formula.

so people do let me know what you think of these two stacks ...

obviously ill need to team the stack up with a balance diet as i noticed that for my elf with green mag.

Thanks

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Controlled labs guy you rock!if i had a supplement company i would have you on my side;)jeez white flood and green mag never get bad reviews the proof is in the pudding,im yet to try youre products but will soon will.
thanks for the props, would love to hear your thoughts on them :)

hi people,

right now im on green mag but sooner or later i want to try a stack and therefore i cant make my mind up between CL or BSN, although bsn got sued for the cem3, ive heard some good reviews about the new avpt formula,

As im after extra strength, pump, and focus during my workout along with explosive energy an non stop increase in power everytime i go to gym ive chosen to stacks and need you people to give me your opinions,

im just on green mag now and im getting some good gains but i want to either:

use green mag, white flood and purple wrath or

bsn no explode, bsn cellmass and nitrix all of them the new avpt formula.

so people do let me know what you think of these two stacks ...

obviously ill need to team the stack up with a balance diet as i noticed that for my elf with green mag.

Thanks
both are good, but the CL stack has a ton of servings per tub and also has an amino product, so they arent so comparable :)

[kwanthony187]

whiteflood>no xplode
greenmag>cellmass
nitrix and purple wraath are completely different, both are good in there own way but for the money i would buy purple wraath over nitrix.

[dcoen21]

Phosphagen HP is the Best.

[coadygreen]

cellmass for sure, you get great results plus it tastes good.

[chuckiss6]

just have to say that i tried out purple wrath today pre workout and I liked the taste and when i was working out I could tell, I just wanted to keep working out, like I never got tired, I was starting to get sore but thats about it, no fatigue I like it see how my next workout goes and then Ill let you know more

[asukyle]

I will be blunt: the creatine I buy does not have a fancy little label on the front of the bag it came in, but the results are not any different than some of the pricier brands out there. I believe that creatine monohydrate, regardless of what brand you buy is all the same. You can argue taste, brand, but monohydrate at any price is still the monohydrate.

[fightclub1223]

does white flood have creatine in it? i dont see any on the nutrition label and cant find a direct source for this info

[untamedjg]

I am looking to break through a small plateau. Up to this point I have just been using whey and taking vitamins. After reading these posts and doing research I think I am going to get Green Mag. Would it be a good idea to stack with purple wraath right away or just use Green Mag first?

[simpleguy]

I am looking to break through a small plateau. Up to this point I have just been using whey and taking vitamins. After reading these posts and doing research I think I am going to get Green Mag. Would it be a good idea to stack with purple wraath right away or just use Green Mag first?

imo yes, better to stack them

[Project84]

I hate the style of this forum... why have 10,000 opinions. Would've been so much better to have an ongoing poll of the top 15 brands/products.

Anyway, I'm using Body Fortress crap I got at Walmart just to see if it has any affect on me, so far, 4 days in and last night was shoulders at the gym. I did my full routine, went and did 4 ab exercises, pull ups, and dips. I just didn't get tired. It was weird.

Have (2) tubs of Cell Tech to go through after the new year, should be empty by March. I can't wait to see what happens between now and then.

[lucky79]

has anyone tryed dark matter?/?

[kwanthony187]

I heard it's good stuff.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

whiteflood>no xplode
greenmag>cellmass
nitrix and purple wraath are completely different, both are good in there own way but for the money i would buy purple wraath over nitrix.
glad to hear your feedback :)

just have to say that i tried out purple wrath today pre workout and I liked the taste and when i was working out I could tell, I just wanted to keep working out, like I never got tired, I was starting to get sore but thats about it, no fatigue I like it see how my next workout goes and then Ill let you know moreawesome, was this a sample? lemonade?


does white flood have creatine in it? i dont see any on the nutrition label and cant find a direct source for this info
nope, people stack it with our creatine product, Green MAGnitude :)

I am looking to break through a small plateau. Up to this point I have just been using whey and taking vitamins. After reading these posts and doing research I think I am going to get Green Mag. Would it be a good idea to stack with purple wraath right away or just use Green Mag first?

they make a great combination, but are each good in their own right

[lakerzfan07]

could someone please give me a good creatine product avaliable on the bb.com store with a link. I've never used the stuff. I'm willing to spend 10-17 dollars (I know I'm getting a job soon!).

[samadamsboyee]

Damn took me forever to get thru this thread but some serious good info though I am a tad confused now http://tvseriesboxsets4u.info/img/1492/f08b1210pjwg/biggrin.gif

[devilspawn666]

my vote goes is for Green magnitude hands down.

[pu12en12g]

my vote goes is for Green magnitude hands down.

I'll drink to that :D

[bosco_]

Green Magnitude, price per serving wins by far. It's awesome. (Tried the Electric Lemonaid.....mixes well, great taste. Also tried the apple sample, I'm not sure if I like either "better" but they're both good)

Cell-Tech and anything else by MuscleTech is overpriced and overrated. All they do is advertise in magazines. And nice try with the double branding what with their secondary company Muscle Asylum crap. I'm sure they also make that garbage they sell at Wal-Mart too.

If you use Cell Mass or anything BSN you are also getting ripped off.

If you want to do the same thing at the quarter of the price, go buy plain creatine mono and drink it with a frickin Coke.

[Dedicated37]

ive been hearing alot about purple K. Any experiences?

Purple-K is truly great! The strength gains I got off of it were crazy.

[Dedicated37]

Green Magnitude, price per serving wins by far. It's awesome.

Cell-Tech and anything else by MuscleTech is overpriced and overrated. All they do is advertise in magazines. And nice try with the double branding what with their secondary company Muscle Asylum crap. I'm sure they also make that garbage they sell at Wal-Mart too.

If you use Cell Mass or anything BSN you are also getting ripped off.

If you want to do the same thing at the quarter of the price, go buy plain creatine mono and drink it with a frickin Coke.

I'm picking up the Controlled Labs stack with Green Mag, Purple Wraath, White Flood, and Glycergrow. I'm looking forward to this stack! I've been hearing a lot about Glycergrow and the pumps it gives.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

my vote goes is for Green magnitude hands down.


Green Magnitude, price per serving wins by far. It's awesome.

thanks :) which flavor have you used?

I'm picking up the Controlled Labs stack with Green Mag, Purple Wraath, White Flood, and Glycergrow. I'm looking forward to this stack! I've been hearing a lot about Glycergrow and the pumps it gives.

thanks for giving our products a shot. keep a log if you have the time. also, save the labels/tubs and receipts for free controlled labs gear and products (check the link in my signature below for details)

[chuckiss6]

yes definitly go with the controlled labs products, I will be ordering a stack of their stuff very soon, thats controlled.

[CSmit724]

Gaspari Sizeon all the way

[CONTROLLED LABS]

yes definitly go with the controlled labs products, I will be ordering a stack of their stuff very soon, thats controlled.

great to hear, keep us posted on your results. feedback is very important to us :)

[J.O.B.]

has anyone tryed dark matter?/?

like drinkn hair gel lol

n whats wit the cellmass n celltech ppl? its horrible products n u stil buy thm

[Wicked_Edge]

I just stick with the same old cheap but proven creatine monohydrate.

[Ryaan]

Okay, so ..

Is size on worth buying over green mag? You get a LOT more servings for a cheaper price out of green mag. And what is the best flavor for Size On?

[untamedjg]

I am starting Green MAG tomorrow. Is it better to take pre or post workout? Also is it true I should take it everyday including non-training days?

[Dedicated37]

I am starting Green MAG tomorrow. Is it better to take pre or post workout? Also is it true I should take it everyday including non-training days?

Take pre-workout and take it everyday including non-training days.

[Dedicated37]

Okay, so ..

Is size on worth buying over green mag? You get a LOT more servings for a cheaper price out of green mag. And what is the best flavor for Size On?

Good question, I've only tried SizeOn and found it to be great. I'm going to be trying GreenMag, but from trying the sample of it I really liked it.

For SizeOn, most people say they like the Arctic Lemon Ice flavor.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I am starting Green MAG tomorrow. Is it better to take pre or post workout? Also is it true I should take it everyday including non-training days? preworkout and yes, 1 serving everyday


Good question, I've only tried SizeOn and found it to be great. I'm going to be trying GreenMag, but from trying the sample of it I really liked it.

For SizeOn, most people say they like the Arctic Lemon Ice flavor.

yeah, green mag is hard to be for effects/value/taste :)

[Derly]

preworkout and yes, 1 serving everyday


Why is Green Mag pre-workout, when many other creatines are post-workout supps? How is it more effective taken pre-workout? What about intra-workout?

I just ordered some Green Mag, but I have a bottle of of some CEE pills I have to finish. I'm really excited to see how well Green Mag does, and I'll be stacking it with white flood. After I run out of this tub (80 servings), I'm probably going to cycle off creatine to save money. So hopefully this stuff is has all the bang for the buck that I've been seeing on these forums. It really seems to have a great price.

In the past I've tried the Con-Cret conjugated creatine, and it actually gave really nice results without bloating, and I've also tried CEE pills, but the conjugated gave me the best results. I've also tried Cell-Tech, and got really bloated as well as crashing every time after I took it, not to mention that horrible gritty almost burning taste.

Should WF and GM be taken together in the same shake or should I stagger them? One pre-workout, and one intra-workout.

[richc]

Why is Green Mag pre-workout, when many other creatines are post-workout supps? How is it more effective taken pre-workout? What about intra-workout?


depends what you looking for, taking a supp pre or intra workout would be best for improving performance during the workout, taking it post would be to help recover from your workout.
i have usually used size on intra and it allows me to stretch my workouts longer and still feel strong all the way to the end, although when i go back to bulking i am going to try a different stack for comparison sake, i still havent decided if im going to go CL or BSN.

[betotey]

what do you guys think which is the better more effective creatine?

[wn1998]

what is the best tasting creatine? I have tried the older version of Cell-tech and I hated the super sweetness. I also purchased some No-Explod about a month ago and that crap is nasty! I want a good tasting fast acting creatine!

[OldheadStatus]

everyones different...everyone will have different results for diff creatine, i got good gains off of cellucor's m5 extreme

[buchdogg]

I've tried alot of different creatines and creatine formulas (Green Mag, Animal Pump, Cell Mass, original Cell Tech, Phosphagen and Phosphagen Elite, Creapure standalone, CE2, Size On, Labrada ReCharge, and I am sure a few others) over the years. I can now say I have found a clear winner: Applied Nutriceuticals Neovar is hands down the best I have tried yet, and rivaled by none. I understand everybody's body is different and may see different results with different products, but I would urge anyone to atleast give this a try. I doubt you'll be disappointed.

[quank]

what is the best tasting creatine?

Sour Apple GreenMag

[fischetti]

(Universal storm stacked with shock for results and price and ingredients) have a look at them the proof is in the pudding.Will try green mag stacked with white flood next just for new experiences,i like value for money stacks eg controlled labs and universal products.

[KidBlast222]

I'm completely stuck between GreenMAG and Storm.......I'm using Shock Therapy right now so might just stack it with Storm and then try the CL products next. Anyone have anything BAD to say about either of these products since I have heard all or most of the good things people have to say. I hate decisions.

[jackie chan]

what about Krea-genic from weider? is it really as good as advertisment?

[John_Explode]

Cellmass is the BEST creatine product ever, period!
It tastes great,you can feel the effect of it for hours and most importantly,its affordable!
And its from a reputed company. What else do you need?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Why is Green Mag pre-workout, when many other creatines are post-workout supps? How is it more effective taken pre-workout? What about intra-workout?

Should WF and GM be taken together in the same shake or should I stagger them? One pre-workout, and one intra-workout.
it has additional focus enhancement ingredients and is therefore good preworkout. pre is the best due to the reason above.

yes, you can combine the two in the same shake and drink them 30 minutes pre

Sour Apple GreenMag
absolutely, and lemonade is right up there with it as well imo

(Universal storm stacked with shock for results and price and ingredients) have a look at them the proof is in the pudding.Will try green mag stacked with white flood next just for new experiences,i like value for money stacks eg controlled labs and universal products.
I think you will love the gm/wf stack, keep us posted for sure

[J.O.B.]

Cellmass is the BEST creatine product ever, period!
It tastes great,you can feel the effect of it for hours and most importantly,its affordable!
And its from a reputed company. What else do you need?

lol

[fischetti]

it has additional focus enhancement ingredients and is therefore good preworkout. pre is the best due to the reason above.

yes, you can combine the two in the same shake and drink them 30 minutes pre

absolutely, and lemonade is right up there with it as well imo

I think you will love the gm/wf stack, keep us posted for sure

will do

[fischetti]

Cellmass is the BEST creatine product ever, period!
It tastes great,you can feel the effect of it for hours and most importantly,its affordable!
And its from a reputed company. What else do you need?

is this from a bsn rep;),anyways i got great results out of nitrix stacked with noxplode AVPT version.

[GPx]

Cellmass is the BEST creatine product ever, period!
It tastes great,you can feel the effect of it for hours and most importantly,its affordable!
And its from a reputed company. What else do you need?

There is a reason you're in red.

[GPx]

Sour Apple GreenMag

That's an opinion. I personally couldn't stand the taste.

[naturalguy]

I'm completely stuck between GreenMAG and Storm.......I'm using Shock Therapy right now so might just stack it with Storm and then try the CL products next. Anyone have anything BAD to say about either of these products since I have heard all or most of the good things people have to say. I hate decisions.

You can't go wrong with either however you can't beat Storm when you factor in price.

[chuckiss6]

Hey if I was going to stack green mag, white flood, and purple warth, should I take them all prework like they say or is there another way.

[Derly]

Hey if I was going to stack green mag, white flood, and purple warth, should I take them all prework like they say or is there another way.
White Flood is pre
Green Mag is pre
Purple Wrath is post

[chuckiss6]

ight cool, I just order sum green mag actually, would it be ok if I mixed some of my pure creatine powder in with the green mag? or would that just be overkill

[Peter LeDrew]

After trying nearly every pre-workout that has been released over the past few years and not ever being satisfied (often using my own ingredients added to some of the top ones recommended here) I am currently recommending PreSurge. Check out my log in my sig. and some of the others, most I would guess are totally non-biased.

A few weeks in, last nights arm workout was one of the most intense pumps I have ever experienced and I have no doubt this is directly related to PreSurge supplementation @10 caps.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

You can't go wrong with either however you can't beat Storm when you factor in price.
in your opinion. cheapest isnt always best. ;)

Hey if I was going to stack green mag, white flood, and purple warth, should I take them all prework like they say or is there another way.
purple wraath is intra

ight cool, I just order sum green mag actually, would it be ok if I mixed some of my pure creatine powder in with the green mag? or would that just be overkill

no need for extra creatine, green mag has plenty

[justdoit08]

Okay, so ..

Is size on worth buying over green mag? You get a LOT more servings for a cheaper price out of green mag. And what is the best flavor for Size On?

persoanlly size on didnt live up to the hype with me, i never felt much size on me lol and even when i took plasmajet it felt like i was taking nothing :s where as green mag i feel it in all ma workouts and already lasting me 6 weeks and got half a tub! choice is instead of jus getting green mag get the green mag and white flood and purple w, IT WILL DO YOU GOOD

[justdoit08]

That's an opinion. I personally couldn't stand the taste.

me too, i thought i had a out of date tub, and people say it tastes nice LOL, i have to mix with 12oz of water to dilute the taste on sour apple, never the less its the results that count! GREEN MAG FTW

[justdoit08]

im on green mag now but i want to get purple wraath and white flood and maybe glycergrow but its jus ttoo expensive in uk, although the servings count but compared to us price its a bomb in uk, and bodybuilding.com shipping cost dont help either for international orders :(

[style_Rz]

Size-ON definitely, its nice having a bit of strength boost during workouts and the nice fullness feeling.
Much better than Cellmass for me.

[DROE]

I have been taking ProLab Creapure Monohydrate for almost a week now. I love it and no side effects so far. Alot of people say mono gives them side effects. I happen to think they either buy non CreaPure Creatine which means it isn't of good quality or they don't drink enough water. I am drinking about a gallon a day. Also no water retention so far either. I have noticed more strength and endurance. Some harder muscle too.

My trainer told me to leave the loading phase alone and start with the maintenance phase. Maybe that is another reason I haven't experienced side effects or water retention.

GOOD LUCK!

[jcchristman]

My next order I'm gonna purchase White Flood and Green Mag and stack them. Is it better to stack them with Purple Wrath or can I skip out on it?

[ZB126]

you already requested the green magnitude sample? if so, please let us know how you like it when it arrives :)

So I gave that sample a shot and it felt a lot lighter than sizeon which was nice (sometimes the flavor is a little too sweet) and it also tasted good. Its hard to tell about deliver and effectiveness from just one dose but I felt that recovery was very easy and I had no problems with digestion, bloating, etc. It was overall a very good experience and I am thinking about getting it for my next cycle. I just wish it came in other flavors too! (But the apple was good and not too sour)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

im on green mag now but i want to get purple wraath and white flood and maybe glycergrow but its jus ttoo expensive in uk, although the servings count but compared to us price its a bomb in uk, and bodybuilding.com shipping cost dont help either for international orders :(
i would assume all products are more expensive there, no?

My next order I'm gonna purchase White Flood and Green Mag and stack them. Is it better to stack them with Purple Wrath or can I skip out on it? awesome. purple wraath is always a good addition, depending on budget


So I gave that sample a shot and it felt a lot lighter than sizeon which was nice (sometimes the flavor is a little too sweet) and it also tasted good. Its hard to tell about deliver and effectiveness from just one dose but I felt that recovery was very easy and I had no problems with digestion, bloating, etc. It was overall a very good experience and I am thinking about getting it for my next cycle. I just wish it came in other flavors too! (But the apple was good and not too sour)

awesome to hear, keep us posted on your results for a whole tub

[bayareamac]

I like the creakic hardcore muscletech

[brandonca]

cell-tech is the best creatine product i have taken. After using it for a couple weeks following the directions and drinking plently of water i have gained more then 12 pounds.

[AngelOfDeath.]

Hell i used that walmart creatine and notice some dam good gains and gained some weight as well

[ZB126]

Hell i used that walmart creatine and notice some dam good gains and gained some weight as well

Was it monohyrdrate? I know that the Target BodyFortress one people seem to think is good for the price but apparently the taste is pretty bad...


cell-tech is the best creatine product i have taken. After using it for a couple weeks following the directions and drinking plently of water i have gained more then 12 pounds.

Have you tried many others? Cell tech was the first I tried and I have found many that I like more. Granted, its all personal preference...

[Fedor23]

I have been looking to get on some creatine.. Haven't taken any in years.. I just don't want the boated feeling and a whole lot of water weight as I have been doing some cutting.. I might give green mag a try and see what happens..

[chevy572bb]

Size On. Would like to try Green Mag though.

[TheFugitive]

MRI CE2 Hi Def no bloat no water gain.

[ZB126]

Size On. Would like to try Green Mag though.

There is a thread in the company promotion section where I got my free sample of it. Give it a shot :)

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=111616161

[Wizdom C kerr]

Con-cret is amazing. It's a conjugate creatine, no loading, no bloating...it's awesome...once you get used to the small doses (1/4 tsp) and see the results in the gym, you'll be hooked...

[camerxon]

I want to start using creatine but i cant choose between GreenMag, Sizeon, or ConCret. Sort of leaning towards GreenMag

[Dedicated37]

I want to start using creatine but i cant choose between GreenMag, Sizeon, or ConCret. Sort of leaning towards GreenMag

Have you checked out Purple-K by Fusion Bodybuilding? Between those that you listed, I've tried SizeOn and got great results with it!

[viperbmw]

Have you checked out Purple-K by Fusion Bodybuilding? Between those that you listed, I've tried SizeOn and got great results with it!

Thanks, I'll have to try em out. http://www.ijccscacxapoc.info

[Derly]

Con-cret is amazing. It's a conjugate creatine, no loading, no bloating...it's awesome...once you get used to the small doses (1/4 tsp) and see the results in the gym, you'll be hooked...
If I had the money I'd get it again. But it's expensive. I used to just mix it with apple juice, and yea definately gave some good results.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have been looking to get on some creatine.. Haven't taken any in years.. I just don't want the boated feeling and a whole lot of water weight as I have been doing some cutting.. I might give green mag a try and see what happens..


Size On. Would like to try Green Mag though.


I want to start using creatine but i cant choose between GreenMag, Sizeon, or ConCret. Sort of leaning towards GreenMag

keep us posted if you use green magnitude. as another user stated, you can get a free sample to try out.

[blueearthmn]

Body Fortress has a 400g tub for 10 bucks and it works just fine for me, however it could blend a little better.

[Ragnor187]

Has anyone used Optimum nutrition CGT? creatine glutamine and taurine, i was going to try this but didnt see anyone mention it

[lordtyrion]

im on green mag now but i want to get purple wraath and white flood and maybe glycergrow but its jus ttoo expensive in uk, although the servings count but compared to us price its a bomb in uk, and bodybuilding.com shipping cost dont help either for international orders :(

I'm on purple wraath now, it's not half bad. The niacin in it makes you feel flushed and burning during your workout tho.

[yesIcan0]

Has anyone used Optimum nutrition CGT? creatine glutamine and taurine, i was going to try this but didnt see anyone mention it
Yeah I have tried it, nothing special. Not the worst, not the best. http://www.lkncw8cwec.info

[gta95]

Has anyone used Optimum nutrition CGT? creatine glutamine and taurine, i was going to try this but didnt see anyone mention it

I use it. Its pretty good PWO

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm on purple wraath now, it's not half bad. The niacin in it makes you feel flushed and burning during your workout tho. that is the beta alanine. our niacin is flush free form. what flavor are you sporting?

[PDUBB26]

I've been using creatine for the better half of 10 years now and have seen many products come and go and have WASTED alot of money in the process looking for the next big thing.

So i'll rate from 1-10 how good each product was in producing any sizeable gains from MY experience over the years.

Celltech-5
Cellmass-6
Creatine mono (ANY)-9
CE2-3
Anabolic Halo-7

In the world of supplements never screw with a good thing and remember supplements are just that...a small aspect of our quest for a better physique not a substitute for a good diet, rest, and training like a beast.

[justdoit08]

i cant seem to make my mind up with controlled labs GREEN MAG,WHITE FLOOD, PURPLE WRATH or Gaspari SIZE ON and SUPERPUMP?


give me some feedback people, what are the results , ive tried size on and im on green mag now but i want other peoples veiws!


thanks

[cubicstorm]

Creapure - The Purest Creatine Money Can Buy - available from Reflex Nutrition

[Fitzwell]

GNC's CR5. Took my bench max up 65 pounds while i was on it for just 6 weeks

[jrstronge]

Ive taken Cellmass, GreenMAG, Creakic, Celltech and Creadex and nothing compares to Creapure by Ultimate Nutrition , it will forever be a staple in my diet.

[ERICKERDONS54]

sizeon by gaspari is the best not to mention the flavor isnt so bad either,ive tried controlled labs they work really great i like those a lot, but the flavor is ****ing awful not to mention u have to stack them with to many different supps.

[Fedor23]

Has anyone tried Presurge?

[Marshall28]

Size On.... If you want real results you need to spend the money!

[RobertPlatinum]

Hi, all. I've never really been a fan of creatine. But I decided to try CE2 Hi-Def. I've been on it for about two months. Haven't really noticed significant physique changes but I have made decent gains on my workouts. When I first started my workout on the bench press was 135 lbs 15-12-10 reps. Now it is 185 lbs 15-12-10 reps. I haven't maxed out so I don't know my max. On the Ez curl bar my curls have went from 55lbs to 75lbs. I did a 1 rep max curl of 145lbs on a straight bar about 2 days ago off of a skeptical challenge from a friend. Overhead tricep extensions went from 65lbs to 115lbs (that's the ez-curl bar with a 45lbs plate on each end) 15-12-10 reps.

My review of the product:

Physique Alteration Claims: D+
Strength Gains: B+
Endurance Gains: B+
Overall: C+

[AMillane7]

i cant seem to make my mind up with controlled labs GREEN MAG,WHITE FLOOD, PURPLE WRATH or Gaspari SIZE ON and SUPERPUMP?


give me some feedback people, what are the results , ive tried size on and im on green mag now but i want other peoples veiws!


thanks
I like the CL stack here, but gaspari is a GREAT brand

personally i find CL to be a far better value, and i think you get a more complete supplement stack of Creatine/NO/EAA+BA rather than a NO/Creatine

[Derly]

Hi, all. I've never really been a fan of creatine. But I decided to try CE2 Hi-Def. I've been on it for about two months. Haven't really noticed significant physique changes but I have made decent gains on my workouts. When I first started my workout on the bench press was 135 lbs 15-12-10 reps. Now it is 185 lbs 15-12-10 reps. I haven't maxed out so I don't know my max. On the Ez curl bar my curls have went from 55lbs to 75lbs. I did a 1 rep max curl of 145lbs on a straight bar about 2 days ago off of a skeptical challenge from a friend. Overhead tricep extensions went from 65lbs to 115lbs (that's the ez-curl bar with a 45lbs plate on each end) 15-12-10 reps.

My review of the product:

Physique Alteration Claims: D+
Strength Gains: B+
Endurance Gains: B+
Overall: C+
If you give those kind of gains a C+, what gets an A? Also I never give any creatine product a grade for physique alteration claims. The only one that ever gave me any real noticable physique gains in the mirror was Con-cret. But I think it's just becuase of how I worked out, and it didn't give me bloat, I felt "rock hard" muscles like it claimed. It felt like I was flexed all the time.

[Diedrich77]

I just like to keep it nice and simple:

- Scifit Kre-alkaline powder and some waxy-maize pre/intra/post-workout. (kinda like Size On suggests)

Just add one serving of the Kre-alkaline and a scoop of the waxy maize and drink before and during your workout; when your done attackin' the weights, mix up a scoop of your favorite protein shake and one more serving of the kre-alkaline in it and chug that sucker down with the food of your choice. (preferably high protein & simple carbs/ high calorie with plenty of water.) I eat a "cup noodles" (ramen in a cup) after my protien shake with water, an apple and oatmeal(1/2cup) mixed with raisins(1/4cup) and flax seeds(1 tbsp).

This way you know exactly what your gettin, just plain and simple... no "patent pending" "hypo-triple molecular diffusion nano-fusion ecto-dispersion processes" or "proprietary blends with 75 dif things that are completely under dosed" or whatever these supps are advertising. lmao.

just my preference... and I have tried the SizeOn, creadex, and Cell-tech, also Anabolic OD. they're decent, but in this case.. basic is better.

[Pat369]

Cell Mass by BSN. I generally don't like BSN's **** like N.O.Xplode or Nitrix, but cel mass did get me a lot stronger even though it is pricey. And both the punch and grape flavors taste awesome.
whats wrong with NO-Xplode? I like it for the prework out energey....whats your take on it? any thing better?

[alevity]

I use gen-tec microionized mono. Its very fine but not so soluble.
no taste but very chalky. I love the results. great purity, and only about 45 minutes to get hydration pumping straight to my muscles.

[justdoit08]

If you give those kind of gains a C+, what gets an A? Also I never give any creatine product a grade for physique alteration claims. The only one that ever gave me any real noticable physique gains in the mirror was Con-cret. But I think it's just becuase of how I worked out, and it didn't give me bloat, I felt "rock hard" muscles like it claimed. It felt like I was flexed all the time.

he will give "A" to a creatine with steroids in it that makes him immortal

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i cant seem to make my mind up with controlled labs GREEN MAG,WHITE FLOOD, PURPLE WRATH or Gaspari SIZE ON and SUPERPUMP?


give me some feedback people, what are the results , ive tried size on and im on green mag now but i want other peoples veiws!


thanks
you cant go wrong with either stack, they are two of the best. give them both a shot and decide which to stick with for the long term.

I like the CL stack here, but gaspari is a GREAT brand

personally i find CL to be a far better value, and i think you get a more complete supplement stack of Creatine/NO/EAA+BA rather than a NO/Creatine

thanks for your feedback :)

[UnderWare1213]

Alright guys, the Animal Pump supply is running low so it's time to re-up on some supps. I loved Animal Pump (been through 4 cans) but I feel like it's effects aren't as potent as the first few cans...could be placebo effect or maybe my body is building a tolerance. Anyway, I'm looking for something new.
I've always been a fan of Controlled Labs products so I'd like to give it a shot.

I'm having some trouble deciding between the White Flood + Green Mag stack, or possibly White Blood + Green Bulge + Blue Up. They add up to about the same price, and budget is somewhat of an issue being a poor college student (I was spoiled with the price of Pump). There aren't too many reviews regarding Blue Up, so if someone has any experience with it, feel free to share.

Basically I'm looking for something with exactly the same concept of Animal Pump - an all-in-one product with creatine, NO, etc., and a pre-workout stim. If anyone can comment on the stacks I listed, or suggested something similar, it would be greatly appreciated.

[GPx]

Started my Size-On last night, definitely enjoyed the wild berry punch flavor for once (hated Green Mag).

Will continue to update my progress with Size-On.

[Bikersmoke]

I have read most of the posts here on creatine. I decided to go with greenmag over sizeon just because more servings for less price. I dont realy care about taste that much.My question is when it gets here do I need to preload by taking more than a normal dose the first week? Im also taking fishoil, and a protein drink. Is there anything else I should take to help me get ripped? Yeap Im a noob to the site Hi all..

[Antz1980]

Started my Size-On last night, definitely enjoyed the wild berry punch flavor for once (hated Green Mag).

Will continue to update my progress with Size-On.


Do you mix SizeOn with a protein powder, or have it seperately???

[GPx]

Do you mix SizeOn with a protein powder, or have it seperately???

Creatine mixed with protein? Usually you'd take a creatine before or during and protein after.

Definitely separate, water and the creatine and you're good to go.

[GPx]

I have read most of the posts here on creatine. I decided to go with greenmag over sizeon just because more servings for less price. I dont realy care about taste that much.My question is when it gets here do I need to preload by taking more than a normal dose the first week? Im also taking fishoil, and a protein drink. Is there anything else I should take to help me get ripped? Yeap Im a noob to the site Hi all..

You don't have to take anything to help get ripped. Just cut out the fats and sugars out of your diet and hit the gym. Supplements can just quicken this process.

[simpleguy]

Creatine mixed with protein? Usually you'd take a creatine before or during and protein after.

Definitely separate, water and the creatine and you're good to go.


You don't have to take anything to help get ripped. Just cut out the fats and sugars out of your diet and hit the gym. Supplements can just quicken this process.

agreed (on both)

[Bikersmoke]

Thanks I guess I will cut down on the sugar. I have one more question which would be better to take with my creatine l-arginine or beta-alanine? Oh yeah sold my greenmag to my friend and bought some Con-cret because I found 60 pills for 30$.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Alright guys, the Animal Pump supply is running low so it's time to re-up on some supps. I loved Animal Pump (been through 4 cans) but I feel like it's effects aren't as potent as the first few cans...could be placebo effect or maybe my body is building a tolerance. Anyway, I'm looking for something new.
I've always been a fan of Controlled Labs products so I'd like to give it a shot.

I'm having some trouble deciding between the White Flood + Green Mag stack, or possibly White Blood + Green Bulge + Blue Up. They add up to about the same price, and budget is somewhat of an issue being a poor college student (I was spoiled with the price of Pump). There aren't too many reviews regarding Blue Up, so if someone has any experience with it, feel free to share.

Basically I'm looking for something with exactly the same concept of Animal Pump - an all-in-one product with creatine, NO, etc., and a pre-workout stim. If anyone can comment on the stacks I listed, or suggested something similar, it would be greatly appreciated.
both stacks are great, but either way, you need to cycle off for at least 1-2 weeks as 4 months on ap will make you stim tolerant.

I have read most of the posts here on creatine. I decided to go with greenmag over sizeon just because more servings for less price. I dont realy care about taste that much.My question is when it gets here do I need to preload by taking more than a normal dose the first week? Im also taking fishoil, and a protein drink. Is there anything else I should take to help me get ripped? Yeap Im a noob to the site Hi all..
sounds like a good choice. no need to load. make sure you get a multi too