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Rucinski5503
09-03-2008, 06:20 PM
i have not been lifting that long and being new to weight training i made the dumb mistake of thinking more money means better supps. i used cell tech hard core for a bit , i did notice some gains , but then i started using size on drinking it while i worked out and before i would do 2 scoops of super pump 250 using those two supps i saw body changes and in very little time

danmcbabe
09-03-2008, 08:41 PM
I just started SizeOn today. I started drinking the 24oz. required throughout my workout. A few sets in I start getting the feeling like I am going to throw up. This is to the point where if I take another sip, I'm done for. I only managed to get through 12 oz. in my workout that lasted 45 mins!!! I seemed to have this problem with Endorush, but I would take that 30 minutes prior to working out. Could the problem be that my digestive system is shutting down as I workout? Could anyone shed some light on what the problem is or how I should adjust to this?

Mopar05
09-03-2008, 09:47 PM
I just started SizeOn today. I started drinking the 24oz. required throughout my workout. A few sets in I start getting the feeling like I am going to throw up. This is to the point where if I take another sip, I'm done for. I only managed to get through 12 oz. in my workout that lasted 45 mins!!! I seemed to have this problem with Endorush, but I would take that 30 minutes prior to working out. Could the problem be that my digestive system is shutting down as I workout? Could anyone shed some light on what the problem is or how I should adjust to this?

I do not have the exact answer to why it does this, but I have the same issue. You're not alone. I feel sick about half-way or even less through the 24 ounces. I just take it post-workout and I feel fine. It's much easier b/c I'm thirsty anyway and it's like drinking lemonade (I use arctic lemon ice). So, my advice is attempt to take it post-workout. It says right on the tub that it can be taken immediately following your workout.

danmcbabe
09-04-2008, 07:05 AM
That sounds good. I shall try this today.

Ryan314
09-04-2008, 07:14 AM
I found SizeOn to be just way too much per serving. The serving size of SizeOn is ridiculous and my stomach just could not handle it... also taking 2 scoops of SuperPump250 prior, it was just overkill for me.

I've always had problems with creatine powders (Green MAG, SizeOn, etc.) and now I'm just using pill type creatine (CE3). It's alot easier on my stomach and doesn't give me any GI distress.

danmcbabe
09-04-2008, 08:38 AM
Prior to this, I was taking Green Buldge in capsule form as well. I figured it would be time to try SizeOn and try to find the same results everyone else is having. Does anyone have any pro or cons about creatine in capsule form?

CONTROLLED LABS
09-04-2008, 10:09 AM
You get what you pay for. :)

yup. green magnitude is a great price for 80 servings (close to 3 months of use) of next gen creatine plus extras :)

CaptainScarlet
09-04-2008, 06:39 PM
CreaKic Hardcore

BoockCake
09-04-2008, 06:48 PM
does "size on" have any caffien, or pro hormone in it?


Does it make you jittery like the other caffien based products? Thanks

JakeBinz
09-04-2008, 07:22 PM
I'm using Cell Mass and I'm definately getting results. I get great pumps during workouts (1 inch arm pumps). Even on non-training days I've got a pumped up feeling and good muscle hardness. Good recovery from hardcore workouts. Can't complain!

nrut88
09-05-2008, 03:08 PM
So I'm debating over Anabolic Switch or Green Magnitude...

I'm really leaning towards Green Magnitude though.. Any input as far as size and strength gains are concerned on Green Mag?

CONTROLLED LABS
09-05-2008, 03:47 PM
So I'm debating over Anabolic Switch or Green Magnitude...

I'm really leaning towards Green Magnitude though.. Any input as far as size and strength gains are concerned on Green Mag?

bb.com has free green magnitude samples ;)

jlsoz
09-05-2008, 11:21 PM
is Green Mag a pre-work energy booster or is it just a creatine? does Green Bulge work as good?

sensei101
09-05-2008, 11:30 PM
im just gonna buy walmart creatine..pure mono..cant be to bad.
how does it mix? good?

Mordy5
09-06-2008, 05:49 AM
I just started working out and train 3 days a week, i have been taking green magnitude pre workout as suggested. But what about days i'm not training do i still have to take Creatine? Is Green Mag just a Pre workout creatine?

Thanks for any help

CONTROLLED LABS
09-06-2008, 06:38 AM
is Green Mag a pre-work energy booster or is it just a creatine? does Green Bulge work as good?
its not a stimulant, but it does have focus ingredients. green bulge works very well too :)

I just started working out and train 3 days a week, i have been taking green magnitude pre workout as suggested. But what about days i'm not training do i still have to take Creatine? Is Green Mag just a Pre workout creatine?

Thanks for any help
yes, it should be taken everyday

Ryan314
09-06-2008, 08:03 AM
im just gonna buy walmart creatine..pure mono..cant be to bad.
how does it mix? good?

It doesn't mix. Take your dose and chase is down with water.

Paul_2_Oh
09-06-2008, 08:10 AM
does "size on" have any caffien, or pro hormone in it?


Does it make you jittery like the other caffien based products? Thanks
Size-On is just a proprietary creatine product. No stims (that are worth mentioning) and certainly no pro-hormones other than the ones you signal yourself by training.

zeebodybuilder
09-06-2008, 10:25 AM
Size-On is just a proprietary creatine product. No stims (that are worth mentioning) and certainly no pro-hormones other than the ones you signal yourself by training.

I have used Sizeon in the past the flavour wild berry punch really sucks.. Although i herd lemon is quite good?

smitsky
09-06-2008, 10:28 AM
its not a stimulant, but it does have focus ingredients. green bulge works very well too :)

yes, it should be taken everyday

Are 5 caps of Green Bulge sufficient for me to obtain 5 gm Creatine daily?

Thanks.

Paul_2_Oh
09-06-2008, 12:16 PM
I have used Sizeon in the past the flavour wild berry punch really sucks.. Although i herd lemon is quite good?
I agree on the Punch, it's not much to write home about. I've stuck with Grape which is incredible. No bitterness and tastes like a well-mixed Kool-Aid packet. Just make sure it's cold. Great refreshment mid-workout.

sensei101
09-06-2008, 02:42 PM
It doesn't mix. Take your dose and chase is down with water.

dam..thats gayy

nintendodude
09-06-2008, 02:59 PM
So I'm debating over Anabolic Switch or Green Magnitude...

I'm really leaning towards Green Magnitude though.. Any input as far as size and strength gains are concerned on Green Mag?

I can tell you, Green Mag is one helluva supplement. I'll be hard pressed to switch to any other creatine anytime soon. Course, that's all it is-a supplement to hard training and nutrition. Those deciding "xxx v. xxx" should make certain they have form, understanding of sets, reps, and training down cold, as well as a solid nutritional base before debating about supplements. Just a thought, and some free advertising for Green Mag.

sensei101
09-06-2008, 03:14 PM
thanks for the speech that we already know..wanna tell me why u negged me you rat drooping bastard?

ASASN21
09-06-2008, 09:37 PM
I am taking CL Green Bulge right now and have been taking it for probably 3-4 months now. Overall, I am happy with it. I really haven't seen much gains in strength tho lately. I chose GB because I needed something quick to take with my schedule, and a pill fit the bill. But i'm really not seeing any differences anymore so after doing much reading I have decided to stop the GB and do a new stack:

CL Green Mag (Pre)
ON 100% Whey Protein (Post)
CL Orange Triad

How does that stack look? Any other suggestions for a PreW creatine?

sensei101
09-07-2008, 12:35 PM
prob getting that walmart creatine today..since I got a gift card there anyways...
isnt it sketch thou buying from walmart? is it good pure or do they do **** to make it that cheap.

nintendodude
09-07-2008, 01:01 PM
thanks for the speech that we already know..wanna tell me why u negged me you rat drooping bastard?

Quite the lip on you. I negged you because your mother never bothered to teach you any manners. Now grow up.

FearItSelf
09-07-2008, 03:00 PM
prob getting that walmart creatine today..since I got a gift card there anyways...
isnt it sketch thou buying from walmart? is it good pure or do they do **** to make it that cheap.

Are you talking about the Body Fortress Protein? I went there last week to pick some up because its only like $12 and I'm short on cash, but they were sold out. So I ended up picking up some Six-Star Protein there for like $6 more.

I have heard decent things about Body Fortress Protein....especially for the price.

sensei101
09-07-2008, 03:16 PM
hey no,
I mean creatine..They sell tubs of pure mono if im not mistaking.

IronMan9201
09-07-2008, 06:46 PM
creatine dont work


HAHAHAHA! wow. its like one of the only supplements that works no matter what, just bellow protien shakes, working out, balenced diet.... steroids... lol

sensei101
09-07-2008, 11:28 PM
prob getting that walmart creatine today..since I got a gift card there anyways...
isnt it sketch thou buying from walmart? is it good pure or do they do **** to make it that cheap.
???????

CONTROLLED LABS
09-08-2008, 09:23 AM
Are 5 caps of Green Bulge sufficient for me to obtain 5 gm Creatine daily?

Thanks.
5 caps is sufficient, but its not 5 grams of creatine (that is 10 caps)

I can tell you, Green Mag is one helluva supplement. I'll be hard pressed to switch to any other creatine anytime soon. Course, that's all it is-a supplement to hard training and nutrition. Those deciding "xxx v. xxx" should make certain they have form, understanding of sets, reps, and training down cold, as well as a solid nutritional base before debating about supplements. Just a thought, and some free advertising for Green Mag.
awesome, thanks for your feedback. what flavor are you using?

I am taking CL Green Bulge right now and have been taking it for probably 3-4 months now. Overall, I am happy with it. I really haven't seen much gains in strength tho lately. I chose GB because I needed something quick to take with my schedule, and a pill fit the bill. But i'm really not seeing any differences anymore so after doing much reading I have decided to stop the GB and do a new stack:

CL Green Mag (Pre)
ON 100% Whey Protein (Post)
CL Orange Triad

How does that stack look? Any other suggestions for a PreW creatine?

looks like a good stack, it has all of your foundational needs covered, except maybe some fish oil

sandmanse7en
09-08-2008, 04:23 PM
I have to say that Creakic is the best creatine out right now. I have tried Monohydrate, MRI CE2, and Creadex by Muscle Asylum. The pump that I got with Creakic was ridiculous.

sensei101
09-08-2008, 08:03 PM
muscletech..no thanks..I dont wanna buy anything from them because they make their products look like they will cure cancer if used in a certain way..I never thought that a companys advertising would turn me away..but freezing plates to like-454 degres and **** like that just makes me think that they spend more money on getting the non educated buyer hooked..

mp340
09-09-2008, 01:14 PM
This really should have been a poll.

I have used green bulge, but I cant remember to hit it at the same time with all my other umpteen handfuls of sups.

Would like to have something more concentrated.. any suggestions?

nintendodude
09-09-2008, 08:03 PM
This really should have been a poll.

I have used green bulge, but I cant remember to hit it at the same time with all my other umpteen handfuls of sups.

Would like to have something more concentrated.. any suggestions?

I recommend Green Mag. Best creatine out there, in my opinion.

CONTROLLED LABS
09-10-2008, 12:08 PM
This really should have been a poll.

I have used green bulge, but I cant remember to hit it at the same time with all my other umpteen handfuls of sups.

Would like to have something more concentrated.. any suggestions?


I recommend Green Mag. Best creatine out there, in my opinion.

yeah, green magnitude would be a great option if looking for something with extra creatine in it. bb.com also has free samples :)

kbismadkool
09-10-2008, 12:30 PM
Green Mag, is pretty sweet...is it ok if i take 2 scoops a day? im almost 17

ooREXoo
09-10-2008, 01:55 PM
Kilo of generic creatine monohydrate = $20
Grape juice = $4

$24 for about 100 servings

about a $0.24/serving

sensei101
09-10-2008, 02:06 PM
why grape juice?

stathis723
09-10-2008, 02:12 PM
is suposed to have the sugar u need to get ur insulin spike into a High lvl wich is not true.. ur creatine need 30-45 min to be absorbed.. if u drink grape juice u may have the insulin spike for the first minutes but not untill the whole creatine is absorbed ;p

sensei101
09-10-2008, 02:20 PM
so ebst way to get creatin absorb?

nintendodude
09-10-2008, 06:08 PM
Green Mag, is pretty sweet...is it ok if i take 2 scoops a day? im almost 17

Two scoops is overkill, in my opinion. A scoop at once, or half a scoop pre-workout and half a scoop post is also optimal. (I do that occasionally, and love the results.)

kbismadkool
09-10-2008, 07:10 PM
Two scoops is overkill, in my opinion. A scoop at once, or half a scoop pre-workout and half a scoop post is also optimal. (I do that occasionally, and love the results.)


ok, sweet, thanks, but am i doing anything thats bad for me? (by taking the 2 scoops?)

NativeLips
09-10-2008, 08:16 PM
Micronized Creatine Monohydrate by AST Sports Science.

I've gotten nothing but positive feedback from this supplement. I felt stronger and can last longer between sets and reps than when I did without it. Monohydrate has been receiving positive feedback from a lot of other athletes as it has also worked for them so it's your best bet to try it out.

A 1000 Gram (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/microcreatine.html) bottle of creatine could last me for months and it's well worth it. Being that it is from an establish company like AST, I had nothing to worry about.

I agree. AST Micronized Creatine Monohydrate is my favorite. It's cheap, lasts for months and works great.

li0n
09-10-2008, 08:28 PM
Ok so let me get this straight, "creatinine" is essentially the term used for when creatine (combining with your stomach acids) becomes a toxin in your system, correct? And when that toxin induces itself, this is when you start to experiece side effects.......? Is that assessment fairly accurate, or no?

Yep, creatine "becomes a toxin in your system".

You should actually stop posting here because bodybuilding.com also causes a toxin your eyes when you look at it.

I'm wearing special protective sunglasses.

I'm experiencing the side effects.

li0n
09-10-2008, 08:31 PM
is suposed to have the sugar u need to get ur insulin spike into a High lvl wich is not true.. ur creatine need 30-45 min to be absorbed.. if u drink grape juice u may have the insulin spike for the first minutes but not untill the whole creatine is absorbed ;p

I'd like to see some scientific data backing up what you're saying.

Everything I've read has stated that creatine with a high GL carb will help its absorption into the blood stream as a product of spiked insulin levels (the hormone that tells your body to store muscle energy and energy creating molecules).

palanilopez12
09-10-2008, 08:42 PM
I recommend Green Mag. Best creatine out there, in my opinion.

agreed

TrueBeliever
09-10-2008, 09:05 PM
I'd like to see some scientific data backing up what you're saying.

Everything I've read has stated that creatine with a high GL carb will help its absorption into the blood stream as a product of spiked insulin levels (the hormone that tells your body to store muscle energy and energy creating molecules).

Dito

Seven_McNuggets
09-11-2008, 07:00 AM
muscletech..no thanks..I dont wanna buy anything from them because they make their products look like they will cure cancer if used in a certain way..

Lolol! I actually laughed loud at that :P



Green Mag, is pretty sweet...is it ok if i take 2 scoops a day? im almost 17

No, pro bodybuilders who are age-ranged in their 30s+ only do one scoop of Green Mag. Your body will just get rid of the excess amount down the toilet, and with it goes your money.

ooREXoo
09-11-2008, 09:02 AM
is suposed to have the sugar u need to get ur insulin spike into a High lvl wich is not true.. ur creatine need 30-45 min to be absorbed.. if u drink grape juice u may have the insulin spike for the first minutes but not untill the whole creatine is absorbed ;p

Yes it is for insulin spike,

However, insulin "spikes" actually last for hours, not minutes.

ooREXoo
09-11-2008, 09:08 AM
Yep, creatine "becomes a toxin in your system".

You should actually stop posting here because bodybuilding.com also causes a toxin your eyes when you look at it.

I'm wearing special protective sunglasses.

I'm experiencing the side effects.

good god +1 on that...

way off base....creatinine is not a toxin.

Your body actually produces it. It is a material produced from the breakdown of creatine phosphate.

It is usually flushed down the toilet after you take a whiz. lol.

blakekyle321
09-11-2008, 09:55 AM
SizeOn is the best. just find it on sale so its not so expensive

CONTROLLED LABS
09-11-2008, 11:34 AM
Green Mag, is pretty sweet...is it ok if i take 2 scoops a day? im almost 17

no need, 1 scoop of green magnitude a day is perfect for everyone :)

thane22
09-11-2008, 12:32 PM
muscletech

sensei101
09-11-2008, 12:38 PM
dude..its to hardcore for us...mustle tech is prob the strongest roid ever made...have u seen the plates they froze and threw on the ground? irrelavent to anything but seriously...they shattered..

ottoevans
09-11-2008, 12:38 PM
is there a creatine that doesnt work? I was thinking on buying the cheap one

The Higher Power or MRM Creatine 500

is there anything wrong with those?

BMetal
09-11-2008, 02:12 PM
I wanna throw Dymatize Xpand in here too. I found some great results with that and its only about 20c more per serving than green mag.

ottoevans
09-11-2008, 06:42 PM
is there a creatine that doesnt work? I was thinking on buying the cheap one

The Higher Power or MRM Creatine 500

is there anything wrong with those?

so is there anything wrong with The Higher Power brand?

wutitis30
09-11-2008, 08:30 PM
I've tried cell-tech, cellmass, and size on... of them cell-tech gives you a major crash when you stop using it, didn't realize the amount of sugar til after. Cellmass tasted the best and was easiest to drink, worked alright...

Sizeon definitely worked the best for me. Found it hard to drink the whole thing but the results were there.. been considering mono, I might give it a go

ottoevans
09-12-2008, 08:29 AM
lol so how about Higher Power????

EEytonJones
09-12-2008, 08:32 AM
lol so how about Higher Power????

higher power mono is good. thats what ive been using for a while
the 1000g tube

thebrindle
09-12-2008, 09:03 AM
CNP Creatine the tablets didnt really do much for me except give me some cramp but i shot up with the powder form

asalways
09-12-2008, 10:34 AM
Is Universal Creatine Chews a good one taking pre-workout?

tmaxx123
09-12-2008, 03:29 PM
I just got a tub of Green Magnitude, and realized that in the warning it says not to take it 3-4 hours with yohimbe. But NaNo Vapor has some Yohimbe in it.

I was planning on stacking both. Is this a bad idea?
I take a half scoop of Vapor and Half scoop of Green Mag.
so not the whole dose....but still is it a bad idea?
if not why not?

Also im switching from Gaspari Nutrition Size On. And i took a little under a half a scoop of that. So will that half a scoop transfer well ,muscle gain wise, to the half a scoop of Green Mag? Or should i take more green mag?

Ryan314
09-12-2008, 03:31 PM
lol so how about Higher Power????

I use there pill form CE3. Cheap, gets the job done.

ottoevans
09-12-2008, 07:51 PM
thanks man

vincerich
09-12-2008, 08:10 PM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/mag.html



I used gnc brand creatine mono and it gave me stomach problems/diarreah and the powder didn't dissolve in the water..it just sat at the bottom and when I drank it i basically had 10 grams of powder at the bottom waiting for me



I bought green mag/purple wraath a few days ago and have had no problems at all with them, and am glad i bought them




I noticed that the gnc brand creatine isn't that great either. The Amplified Creatine 189 is alright but I'm taking enough pills as it is. So, I prefer CellTech. Some don't like it (mostly because they don't like the company rather than having an actual problem with the product) but I think that it's great. I wouldn't use two full servings a day like the directions suggest though. Anabolic Switch by MRI is a good choice as well in my opinion.

tellmewhy
09-13-2008, 12:08 PM
I see a lot of people hyping the Green Mag. I don't know much about health and body building but what I do know is that you shouldn't cut health for "gains". Green Mag has Taurine and Tyrosine in it, both are not healthy and even worse when they are together. This product is more a pre workout pump than a creatine supplement. I dunno, I just felt the need to say this. This forum in general sketches me out because the hype is directly related to whats the front page in the store LINKED to the forum.

CONTROLLED LABS
09-13-2008, 01:47 PM
I just got a tub of Green Magnitude, and realized that in the warning it says not to take it 3-4 hours with yohimbe. But NaNo Vapor has some Yohimbe in it.

I was planning on stacking both. Is this a bad idea?
I take a half scoop of Vapor and Half scoop of Green Mag.
so not the whole dose....but still is it a bad idea?
if not why not?

Also im switching from Gaspari Nutrition Size On. And i took a little under a half a scoop of that. So will that half a scoop transfer well ,muscle gain wise, to the half a scoop of Green Mag? Or should i take more green mag?
make sure to space them out. take green mag first thing in the morning and vapor before the workout

I see a lot of people hyping the Green Mag. I don't know much about health and body building but what I do know is that you shouldn't cut health for "gains". Green Mag has Taurine and Tyrosine in it, both are not healthy and even worse when they are together. This product is more a pre workout pump than a creatine supplement. I dunno, I just felt the need to say this. This forum in general sketches me out because the hype is directly related to whats the front page in the store LINKED to the forum.

taurine and tyrosine are both amino acids in your daily diet, neither is unsafe. also, green mag is not on the front page

anthony_b
09-13-2008, 04:56 PM
The best creatine suplement is pure creatine monohydrate from a reputable company.

sirbobmontgomery
09-13-2008, 06:56 PM
I used to take green mag but i hate drinking that and white flood before workout, i now take green bulge, the capsule form from CL with some extras and i love it....

I think i should be a cl mascot, taking wf, pw, gb, reduction, have taken gm, gf and red acid.

fischetti
09-14-2008, 01:24 AM
I see a lot of people hyping the Green Mag. I don't know much about health and body building but what I do know is that you shouldn't cut health for "gains". Green Mag has Taurine and Tyrosine in it, both are not healthy and even worse when they are together. This product is more a pre workout pump than a creatine supplement. I dunno, I just felt the need to say this. This forum in general sketches me out because the hype is directly related to whats the front page in the store LINKED to the forum.

LOL;)

zbaby48
09-14-2008, 10:49 AM
The best creatine suplement is pure creatine monohydrate from a reputable company.

completely agree with this

Brooks823
09-14-2008, 11:36 AM
I'm currently taking NO Shotgun pre workout and looking to put on some size and gain some strength with either Green Mag or Green Bulge. Is it safe to take Mag or Bulge with the NO Shotgun pre workout? And if so how far apart should they be taken from each other and how far ahead of the workout should I be taking these? I'm taking ON 100% Gold Standard whey post workout.

fischetti
09-14-2008, 11:50 PM
The best creatine suplement is pure creatine monohydrate from a reputable company.

TRUTH:)

jujuB
09-14-2008, 11:58 PM
Green MAG!

mbrogz3000
09-15-2008, 06:08 AM
Still using Sizeon (1 scoop after workout, occasionally on nonworkout days too) and Superpump (1 to 1.5 scoops preworkout), and I got a nice compliment from my parents whom I hadn't seen in 2 months since my wedding. I know for a fact that I have been lingering around 170 lbs (5'10") since the wedding, but I think my fat is burning and muscle is growing in place. They thought I was rather skinny during the wedding, but much better looking now. I don't really get feedback from my wife because she takes it as me "talking about myself all the time", so I try to refrain...

I haven't really bulked at all, just solidified my shoulders and upper/middle back, and noticeable more definition in my arms. When they hugged me, they were like 'your solid'. I'm also getting that v-shape at my waist. My upper and middle abs are gradually coming though (such a slow process!).

Borat G
09-15-2008, 07:50 AM
Just getting back into bodybuilding again after 4 years of being lazy. Going to go with regular creatine monohydrate because its cheap. Just wondering if the GNC or Vitamin Shoppe brands are any good. how's the quality of them? What do you guys recommend thats cheap and good.

sensei101
09-15-2008, 09:18 AM
Yep, creatine "becomes a toxin in your system".

You should actually stop posting here because bodybuilding.com also causes a toxin your eyes when you look at it.

I'm wearing special protective sunglasses.

I'm experiencing the side effects.

woah woah there cowboy....What if im not wearing these "special" suits and stuff..how long till my nuts fall off!?

CONTROLLED LABS
09-15-2008, 11:25 AM
I used to take green mag but i hate drinking that and white flood before workout, i now take green bulge, the capsule form from CL with some extras and i love it....

I think i should be a cl mascot, taking wf, pw, gb, reduction, have taken gm, gf and red acid.
awesome. green bulge and green mag are both great options :)

I'm currently taking NO Shotgun pre workout and looking to put on some size and gain some strength with either Green Mag or Green Bulge. Is it safe to take Mag or Bulge with the NO Shotgun pre workout? And if so how far apart should they be taken from each other and how far ahead of the workout should I be taking these? I'm taking ON 100% Gold Standard whey post workout.
i think shotgun has creatine already

Green MAG!

fo sure :)

Khromosone
09-15-2008, 03:13 PM
Any decent NON flavoured creatine?

sensei101
09-15-2008, 04:54 PM
so ebst way to get creatin absorb?

and also ordering that prolab mono...Even thou when I was talking to a bb.com rep he said there is more advance creatine out there..idk..

KTManiac
09-15-2008, 05:55 PM
Has anyone used X-Rated creatine from hi-health? Both my friend and I are on it and were gaining well.

sensei101
09-15-2008, 08:05 PM
link tot hem?

wolfgang_eruption
09-16-2008, 07:46 AM
Green magnitude by far! never got such results on any other creatine
If you are a mono non-responder like me, that's the way to go!

=)

AMillane7
09-16-2008, 07:47 AM
Green magnitude by far! never got such results on any other creatine
If you are a mono non-responder like me, that's the way to go!

=)

good stuff bro,try PW as well

wolfgang_eruption
09-16-2008, 07:56 AM
good stuff bro,try PW as well

I'm really interested on tryin PW, but this stuffs are too much difficult to get in Brazil..you may think not, but customs here are tough!

eastonjc
09-17-2008, 01:49 PM
I first of want to say that I have been using PW intra workout for a little over a month and I want to say it is a great product by far one of the best products I have ever taken. I would recommend to anyone who wants focus and to ability to work harder than ever before and it feels good "beta alamine" ha. But here is my question I am switching to Green Magnitude today from cell-mass I need a change. When is the ideal time to take Green Magnitude and PW now that I have both. I know you are supposed to take PW intra but can I get a time to take the Green Magnitude like 30-60 minutes before ? or 30-60 after? Also what is another good product to stack with green magnitude.

Thanks,

sensei101
09-17-2008, 02:17 PM
Hows Creakic? Creakic Hardcore?
And also Muscletech CellTech Hardcore.

read the sig...all u need to know

stathis723
09-17-2008, 02:20 PM
I first of want to say that I have been using PW intra workout for a little over a month and I want to say it is a great product by far one of the best products I have ever taken. I would recommend to anyone who wants focus and to ability to work harder than ever before and it feels good "beta alamine" ha. But here is my question I am switching to Green Magnitude today from cell-mass I need a change. When is the ideal time to take Green Magnitude and PW now that I have both. I know you are supposed to take PW intra but can I get a time to take the Green Magnitude like 30-60 minutes before ? or 30-60 after? Also what is another good product to stack with green magnitude.

Thanks,

A rep told me to take it 45 min pre workout.. do it 30m if u want imo, keep the pw Intra.
White flood is a NO Product that people use to stack .. its ur choice.. ive heared good things about sp250 too

CONTROLLED LABS
09-17-2008, 02:51 PM
Green magnitude by far! never got such results on any other creatine
If you are a mono non-responder like me, that's the way to go!

=)
its a great product with a taste to match :)

good stuff bro,try PW as well


I'm really interested on tryin PW, but this stuffs are too much difficult to get in Brazil..you may think not, but customs here are tough!
get it from bb.com :)

I first of want to say that I have been using PW intra workout for a little over a month and I want to say it is a great product by far one of the best products I have ever taken. I would recommend to anyone who wants focus and to ability to work harder than ever before and it feels good "beta alamine" ha. But here is my question I am switching to Green Magnitude today from cell-mass I need a change. When is the ideal time to take Green Magnitude and PW now that I have both. I know you are supposed to take PW intra but can I get a time to take the Green Magnitude like 30-60 minutes before ? or 30-60 after? Also what is another good product to stack with green magnitude.

Thanks,

awesome, thanks for the feedback :)

green mag preworkout (30 minutes pre) and purple wraath during the workout (you can start sipping on it a few minutes before). another good one to add is white flood, you can mix it in the same shake as green magnitude if you like.

Pbmiyagi91
09-17-2008, 03:36 PM
i just take kre alkylyn cap...they are cheap and work just fine. creatin matrixes are to expensive to use all the time...although i do like the amount of servings you get with green mag and the price is ok :)

AndrewCa
09-17-2008, 05:53 PM
read the sig...all u need to know

Wow, by just reading from Muscle tech I'll gain 2.3 pound.whoa gotta buy it ASAP!!!!!! LMAO

will742
09-17-2008, 05:55 PM
I used to buy generic brand creatin when I was younger and it seemed to work pretty well for me back then. Now that I'm older (about to be 20), I bought some Green Mag to stack alongside White Flood and hopefully I see similar or hopefully better results this time around.

What I'm wondering is, since I can mix the two in a shake beforehand... should I still use the standard serving sizes for both products or should I try mix-and-matching to see which gets me the best results?

Sorry if this is a newbie question... I'm pretty new to this whole scene if you can't tell haha

CaptainScarlet
09-17-2008, 06:54 PM
Lolol! I actually laughed loud at that :P




No, pro bodybuilders who are age-ranged in their 30s+ only do one scoop of Green Mag. Your body will just get rid of the excess amount down the toilet, and with it goes your money.

CreaKic HardCore is the one i'm using.
Is good or bad is monohydrate or not?

asalways
09-18-2008, 05:57 AM
It seems that Animal Pump is a good pre-workout Creatine Matrix. Anyone used it so far, please comment!

CONTROLLED LABS
09-18-2008, 09:49 AM
i just take kre alkylyn cap...they are cheap and work just fine. creatin matrixes are to expensive to use all the time...although i do like the amount of servings you get with green mag and the price is ok :)

have you tried the free green magnitude sample? it will seal the deal imo :)

fischetti
09-18-2008, 11:39 PM
It seems that Animal Pump is a good pre-workout Creatine Matrix. Anyone used it so far, please comment!

You seem to always talk about universal products;)

asalways
09-19-2008, 12:58 AM
You seem to always talk about universal products;)
I have found some good results from Universal Products, so it always remains my first choice to try and use them. And I recommend them to others too, not because I am obsessed with the brand, but because they give good results. If you can suggest some other products, you can tell me. In addition to Universal, I also talk about NOW, FOY, Prolab, etc, in short, the products which give good results.

TigrShrk
09-19-2008, 10:19 AM
It seems that Animal Pump is a good pre-workout Creatine Matrix. Anyone used it so far, please comment!

I went through a tin of Animal Pump. Waste of $ IMO.
Green Mag is a great creatine and stacked with other CL products gives outstanding results.

CONTROLLED LABS
09-19-2008, 02:14 PM
I went through a tin of Animal Pump. Waste of $ IMO.
Green Mag is a great creatine and stacked with other CL products gives outstanding results.

glad you feel that way, what flavor are you sporting ?

BLKMAMBA24
09-19-2008, 04:15 PM
Wut bout Creakic Hardcore? (capsules)

eas1990
09-19-2008, 05:29 PM
platinum pump fuel and cr5 are both amazing if you want to spend a little bit more ;)

CaptainScarlet
09-19-2008, 05:43 PM
Wut bout Creakic Hardcore? (capsules)
I use capsules.

eastonjc
09-19-2008, 10:42 PM
What are the pro' & Cons of the pills vrs. powder. I am currently using cell-mass and I am switching to a controlled labs product either green mag or green bulge. What is better ? What are the pro's and cons of both. It would seem that taking green bulge would be easier just to take some pills instead of mixing a shake before then drinking PW intra which I already do. Does green bulge work just as good as green magnitude and what if anything is the difference in the two.

Also would staking green bulge with white blood be the same as staking green magnitude with white flood?

USMC_25
09-20-2008, 04:35 AM
i just started crealean2 by labrada. Anyone heard of this?

nintendodude
09-20-2008, 11:48 AM
What are the pro' & Cons of the pills vrs. powder. I am currently using cell-mass and I am switching to a controlled labs product either green mag or green bulge. What is better ? What are the pro's and cons of both. It would seem that taking green bulge would be easier just to take some pills instead of mixing a shake before then drinking PW intra which I already do. Does green bulge work just as good as green magnitude and what if anything is the difference in the two.

Also would staking green bulge with white blood be the same as staking green magnitude with white flood?

I cannot say the differences between the two, but Green Mag is easily the best creatine supplement on the market. I consume White Blood pre-workout and Green Mag post. I have tried a variety of products, and these two have produced the best results. I am curious to try White Flood, but I love the results of Mag & Blood so much, I am reluctant to experiment!

CONTROLLED LABS
09-20-2008, 03:08 PM
What are the pro' & Cons of the pills vrs. powder. I am currently using cell-mass and I am switching to a controlled labs product either green mag or green bulge. What is better ? What are the pro's and cons of both. It would seem that taking green bulge would be easier just to take some pills instead of mixing a shake before then drinking PW intra which I already do. Does green bulge work just as good as green magnitude and what if anything is the difference in the two.

Also would staking green bulge with white blood be the same as staking green magnitude with white flood?
its all about preference for pills versus powder and whether you want stims and beta alanine with flood versus blood :)

I cannot say the differences between the two, but Green Mag is easily the best creatine supplement on the market. I consume White Blood pre-workout and Green Mag post. I have tried a variety of products, and these two have produced the best results. I am curious to try White Flood, but I love the results of Mag & Blood so much, I am reluctant to experiment!

awesome to hear, thanks for the feedback :)

tagan1
09-20-2008, 10:57 PM
what is your comment/opinion about cell-tech creatine? not healthy, etc? i would like to hear.. thanks.

fischetti
09-21-2008, 03:45 AM
I have found some good results from Universal Products, so it always remains my first choice to try and use them. And I recommend them to others too, not because I am obsessed with the brand, but because they give good results. If you can suggest some other products, you can tell me. In addition to Universal, I also talk about NOW, FOY, Prolab, etc, in short, the products which give good results.

Yeah im thinking of trying some of their products soon as well se whats happens:)

Valik
09-21-2008, 06:23 AM
so most popular are:
1. Size ON
2. Cell Mass
3. Green Mag
4. SAN's v-12 Turbo

but i cant say which is truly the best one :D
too much of opinions

well as for me , now i'm using universal creatine chews, i think it works, as i've been making progress almost every time i go to the gym. But i also fell that its not very good for my stomach sometimes..

I would like to try any of these 4 i mentioned, but its quite hard to find them in my location.

Astro_Gym
09-21-2008, 04:47 PM
If White Flood and White Blood facilitate and enhance the pump, why is it recommended, according to CL's site, it be taken on off days and before bedtime (I believe in the case of WB)?

Astro_Gym
09-21-2008, 04:58 PM
Also, I just started on Green Mag, White Blood and Purple Wrath. Can definitely feel a difference energy and focus-wise after 2 workouts.

Question, what are the advantages and disadvantages to NOT taking the creatine and blood flow enhancer on off-days?

And, is the pump any different or improved with White Flood compared to White Blood? Or, is the pump the same, except that WF simply includes stimulants to further aid focus and energy? I workout at night, and I'm afraid WF might give the jitters and keep me up beyond normal bedtime.

NinjaZX10R
09-21-2008, 05:01 PM
Let me just start by saying that I have disliked MOST of GNC's products........but GNC's "Creadrive" powder has really been working well for me. I started with basic creatine monohydrate and then switched to Creadrive when I ran out and I prefer it to plain Creatine mono. Its got 34g carbs plus some sugar and taurine. Over 5 grams creatien mono per serving too and I did the whole buy one get the second 50% off deal. It seems to get me more amped for my workouts and Im happy with my strength gains. Definately gonna stick with this stuff for now.

On a side note, I started stacking it with Isopure 100% Whey Protien Isolate (I switched from ON 100% Whey which I've been happy with until I developed severe lactose intolerance) because its lactose free and since then I've been damn happy with my gains.

TrueBeliever
09-21-2008, 09:49 PM
I have tried monohydrate, CE2, Green Mag, and Nos Ether. And I am enjoying the effects of Nos Ether by Get Diesel better than any of those products. Gained some good weight with it (most that stays even after you stop using it), and it also has all the NO in it that you need, no need for another NO product (not that I am a big fan of NO anyway).

janjo
09-22-2008, 11:27 AM
Can I take a creatine supplement like SizeOn at the same time I take NanoVapor for pre-workout with Anabolic Halo for post-workout, or is this too much?

jcchristman
09-22-2008, 11:37 AM
Has anyone tried micronized creatine from AST?

Ectotastic
09-22-2008, 12:19 PM
If White Flood and White Blood facilitate and enhance the pump, why is it recommended, according to CL's site, it be taken on off days and before bedtime (I believe in the case of WB)?

Arginine supplementation is like creatine in that results are best if you consistently supplement with it. Not just Pre-WO. Also, you build during your sleep, and vaso-dilation helps you get more blood (and therefore nutrients) to your muscles.

CONTROLLED LABS
09-22-2008, 03:11 PM
If White Flood and White Blood facilitate and enhance the pump, why is it recommended, according to CL's site, it be taken on off days and before bedtime (I believe in the case of WB)?
for different reasosn. the white blood before bed can help with sleep and hormone regulation

Also, I just started on Green Mag, White Blood and Purple Wrath. Can definitely feel a difference energy and focus-wise after 2 workouts.

Question, what are the advantages and disadvantages to NOT taking the creatine and blood flow enhancer on off-days?

And, is the pump any different or improved with White Flood compared to White Blood? Or, is the pump the same, except that WF simply includes stimulants to further aid focus and energy? I workout at night, and I'm afraid WF might give the jitters and keep me up beyond normal bedtime.

you wont get the maximum effects if you dont take green magnitude everyday. white flood has a similar pump to white blood, but adds the beta alanine for endurance and the stimulants.

levendis
09-22-2008, 08:33 PM
hey just wondering if it is okay to use creatine while trying to lose weight?

Anabolic Adam
09-22-2008, 08:41 PM
I really do think this will be my next creatine...Question thou..If I get a Pre workout supp that has creatine in it. Taking another creatine product would be a waste right?

No. 10 grams a day the max. Most pre workouts have about 3.5-4 grams in them. So that would put at about the max. Get it for sure! Its great stuff!

svper2002
09-22-2008, 09:09 PM
hey just wondering if it is okay to use creatine while trying to lose weight?

I assume you mean cut bodyfat % and yes it is fine. Creatine doesnt make you fat

fozza
09-23-2008, 12:46 AM
I'm not taking any creatine supplements at the moment....are they necessary? I'm taking a NO product called NO.KO but i reckon its crap! The hype seems to be around Green Magnesium and White Flood, is it ok to mix these two together pre-workout?

Cheers

Paul_2_Oh
09-23-2008, 04:12 AM
The hype seems to be around Green Magnesium and White Flood, is it ok to mix these two together pre-workout?

Cheers
Absolutely. Mix them together in the same shaker.

When I first started training hard I was a bit skeptical about the apparent 'conflict' between caffeine and creatine battling for receptor proteins in the body, but I can tell you from experience that Magnitude and Flood work tremendous together. I have tried both separate and they work great, but together it's simply phenomenal. Happy lifting!

GPx
09-23-2008, 08:38 AM
Odd one out here, but I hate the flavor of Green Mag (Apple). Might have to buy some Green Bulge instead. Any drawbacks from the capsules to the powder?

xYoungPhenom
09-23-2008, 08:47 AM
I have to say Prolab's Creatine monohydrate because it is made from german filtered creatine "Creapure". Also I was originally in Arm size 11' but i moved up to 15'. so I gave it a try. It made my arms 18' Friends of mine started saying things like "dam bro your Arms are Huge They look like balloons!"
And truth be told on a triceps pulldown w/o it I was doing anywhere from 150-190lbs. On prolabs I was maxing out my pulldowns for 240(the machines Max) for 5 reps. I felt like an Animal in the gym. My arms were bigger then ever and harder. This is HANDS DOWN THE BEST CREATINE!

boberfani
09-23-2008, 09:37 AM
After reading this thread i've just ordered White flood and Green mag. Can't wait to see how they work.Thanks alot for all the posts really interesting to read. How do you guys normally take them, intake etc ? thank you

CONTROLLED LABS
09-23-2008, 12:20 PM
Absolutely. Mix them together in the same shaker.

When I first started training hard I was a bit skeptical about the apparent 'conflict' between caffeine and creatine battling for receptor proteins in the body, but I can tell you from experience that Magnitude and Flood work tremendous together. I have tried both separate and they work great, but together it's simply phenomenal. Happy lifting!
yup, they taste great together as well :)

Odd one out here, but I hate the flavor of Green Mag (Apple). Might have to buy some Green Bulge instead. Any drawbacks from the capsules to the powder?
that is odd. try the lemonade then. green bulge is excellent too

After reading this thread i've just ordered White flood and Green mag. Can't wait to see how they work.Thanks alot for all the posts really interesting to read. How do you guys normally take them, intake etc ? thank you

looking forward to your feedback on them :)

elradhymc
09-23-2008, 12:20 PM
Ok, been reading a lot lately. Right now im taking size-on and super pump. i think they are both great supps. but size-on has been giving me stomach problems lately while working out. my size-on is about to run out and i have a good amount of super pump left so ill stick with that for now and i have about a whole tub left of NO xplode which i might as well use up. so no need for a new Pre NO for the time being. The following are the products im thinking of picking up, remember theyre gonna be stacked with super pump and later NO xplode. please comment

-green bulge
-green mag
-size-on tabs

GPx
09-23-2008, 02:54 PM
Ok, been reading a lot lately. Right now im taking size-on and super pump. i think they are both great supps. but size-on has been giving me stomach problems lately while working out. my size-on is about to run out and i have a good amount of super pump left so ill stick with that for now and i have about a whole tub left of NO xplode which i might as well use up. so no need for a new Pre NO for the time being. The following are the products im thinking of picking up, remember theyre gonna be stacked with super pump and later NO xplode. please comment

-green bulge
-green mag
-size-on tabs

You're thinking about picking one of these up or all three? Wouldn't make sense to get all three...

elradhymc
09-23-2008, 03:40 PM
no just need help picking one.

twistacannon15
09-23-2008, 08:55 PM
anybody take animal pump on workout days and then green mag on off days?

jdbman11
09-23-2008, 09:03 PM
Ok, been reading a lot lately. Right now im taking size-on and super pump. i think they are both great supps. but size-on has been giving me stomach problems lately while working out. my size-on is about to run out and i have a good amount of super pump left so ill stick with that for now and i have about a whole tub left of NO xplode which i might as well use up. so no need for a new Pre NO for the time being. The following are the products im thinking of picking up, remember theyre gonna be stacked with super pump and later NO xplode. please comment

-green bulge
-green mag
-size-on tabs

I had better results from green bulge compared to size on tabs

Aaron614
09-23-2008, 09:54 PM
I just got some High Power micronized creatine, just started the loading phase. I hope it will work some wonders for me.

GolferMan
09-23-2008, 10:38 PM
seen good consistent strength gains while on green mag for about a month now, all while working on a cut diet.

realdeal211
09-24-2008, 09:54 AM
I have been taking ON Whey after workouts and have just bought SizeOn. How do I take these two together? Pre,Post, during???

CONTROLLED LABS
09-24-2008, 11:15 AM
I had better results from green bulge compared to size on tabs


seen good consistent strength gains while on green mag for about a month now, all while working on a cut diet.

great to hear, thanks for the feedback guys :)

GPx
09-24-2008, 03:58 PM
seen good consistent strength gains while on green mag for about a month now, all while working on a cut diet.

Cutting at 152?

Josh81
09-24-2008, 04:14 PM
great results from green mag

no ****s/explosive diarreah like the GNC mono, and it mixes perfectly after a few shakes

stathis723
09-25-2008, 05:58 AM
ill try Clout in the near Future, since it is the best for Strength ill give a try to some other brands first then will get into the clout when the Degrees get into the minimum level ( arround december or january ) for better gains

For now what do you guys choose
Storm + Purple wraath
Green mag + Purple wraath

Since is my first time using creatine ill not order a N.O yet, if im loosing Strength then it might be the time for it

animalifthvything
09-25-2008, 10:32 AM
I just ordered some AST Micronized Creatine Mono, hoping it'll be my savior as just about all the controlled labs creatine products have given me headaches. Does anyone know which creatine product on the market is probably the least likely to cause headaches?

That's pretty funny!!!
Creatine doesn't cause headaches man! It might be something else stacked with it though. I actually prefer buy the BB.com monohydrate and mixing it myself with dextrose. I save insane amounts of money, the product lasts me months, and i know exactly what's in the product-- so try that RawDawgKing.

CONTROLLED LABS
09-25-2008, 12:37 PM
great results from green mag

no ****s/explosive diarreah like the GNC mono, and it mixes perfectly after a few shakes
awesome to hear :)

ill try Clout in the near Future, since it is the best for Strength ill give a try to some other brands first then will get into the clout when the Degrees get into the minimum level ( arround december or january ) for better gains

For now what do you guys choose
Storm + Purple wraath
Green mag + Purple wraath

Since is my first time using creatine ill not order a N.O yet, if im loosing Strength then it might be the time for it

you can get the purple wraath and green mag as a stack from bb.com at a discount ;)

BuckeyeSparky
09-25-2008, 03:56 PM
Monohydrate protein is the best way to go, if it doesnt say mono on the bottle I suggest not buying it.

stathis723
09-26-2008, 12:57 PM
great results from green mag

no ****s/explosive diarreah like the GNC mono, and it mixes perfectly after a few shakes


i used green mag for a few days and saw no difference

i'll try using it for a few weeks

so u saw results from green mag after a few weeks?

IronMan9201
09-27-2008, 03:48 PM
What creatine is best for overall preformance; strength, size, ect. i play football and im undecided to either to get regular creatine mono cause the water bloat would help me add weight, but idk about the effectiveness on strength. and on the other side i was thinking of like size-on because ive heard alot of good come out of it in terms of strenth but it doesn't have the bloat. any opinions which way to go?

Josh81
09-27-2008, 06:18 PM
so u saw results from green mag after a few weeks?

i've been using it for a week in total, broke PRs on all of my lifts this week

MBSowards
09-27-2008, 07:16 PM
What creatine is best for overall preformance; strength, size, ect. i play football and im undecided to either to get regular creatine mono cause the water bloat would help me add weight, but idk about the effectiveness on strength. and on the other side i was thinking of like size-on because ive heard alot of good come out of it in terms of strenth but it doesn't have the bloat. any opinions which way to go?

MAN Orotine or Clout.

Coangler
09-27-2008, 07:25 PM
Green Mag

rdog3
09-27-2008, 09:00 PM
i just ordered green magnitude tonight hopefully its as good as everyone says, i tried the sample on my last order and loved the taste it tasted like starburst to me.

eastonjc
09-27-2008, 09:12 PM
Does anyone have any information about Glycergrow? I am thinking about stacking it with Purple wraath and Green Magnitude? What are the effects of this product? What are the effects and the side effects if any? When would be a good time to take this product I presume with green magnitude pre-workout.

Thanks

EEytonJones
09-27-2008, 09:55 PM
any reviews on
optimum pre-load creatine complex?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/preload.html

CONTROLLED LABS
09-28-2008, 06:18 AM
Green Mag
always a great choice

i just ordered green magnitude tonight hopefully its as good as everyone says, i tried the sample on my last order and loved the taste it tasted like starburst to me.
you will love it. the effects match the great taste :)

Does anyone have any information about Glycergrow? I am thinking about stacking it with Purple wraath and Green Magnitude? What are the effects of this product? What are the effects and the side effects if any? When would be a good time to take this product I presume with green magnitude pre-workout.

Thanks
its a great value and very effective as a cell volumizer. take plenty of water with it and there shouldnt be any side effects

RwR72
09-28-2008, 10:58 AM
Just ordered myself some Green MAGnitude, got a pretty good price so I'm chuffed. First time using a CL product, and first time using a creatine product as well actually, pretty excited for it to arrive now!

NiteHawk
09-29-2008, 01:46 AM
Just buy a tub of regular creatine monohydrate. Its still the best and cheapest. I am currently using American Bodybuilding CreaForce.

crazyquick
09-29-2008, 10:33 PM
Hey guys, this is my first post. I recently tried cell tech and i noticed that it gave me acne bumps. IS this common wit hall creatine monohydrate products? I have been considering taking cell mass, does cell mass produce acne at all? thanks

bimmermd
09-30-2008, 11:23 AM
IMHO

Anavol (not Anavol Hardcore because I have never tried that one) by NxCare (NxLabs, same company)

It's the only creatine with 100% absorption (so they say); it has given me the best results in the past when I have experimented with the various forms of creatine. It also has glutamine in it (which helps with recovery), so that's great too.

Anavol is on a time release and that's why it is more bioavailable than other forms of creatine.

In order of absorption (excluding Anavol), with the most absorption first and the least absorption last (of straight creatine monohydrate forms):

Effervescent/Sublingual
Liquid (from a dropper)
Powder
Capsules/Tablets
(all of these as plain creatine monohydrate)

bimmermd
09-30-2008, 11:47 AM
Hey guys, this is my first post. I recently tried cell tech and i noticed that it gave me acne bumps. IS this common wit hall creatine monohydrate products? I have been considering taking cell mass, does cell mass produce acne at all? thanks

Hi Crazyquick,

Cell Tech (by Muscletech) is known to give acne, particularly on your back.

Cell Tech helped me to gain some serious mass back in high school, but the results didn’t stay very long. Also it has a massive amount of sugar, and always made my stomach queasy (which I of course ignored). Whatever you do, if you do buy Cell Tech, only buy the Fruit Punch or Grape, because in my opinion, the Lemon Lime and Orange are unbearable. This flavor preference (at least for me) is true for all similar types of products, including Cell Mass by BSN.

For me, Cell Tech was the only form of creatine that gave me back acne, but it was worth it while the results lasted. I recommend Cell Tech, but the things to consider are, the [high] price; that the results, at least for me, did not stay long after going off it; and the massive amount of sugar, which is bad for your teeth, bad for your liver, and also throws off the healthy bacterial flora that keep down levels of candida albicans in your stomach (in other words it surely doesn’t help your stomach be healthy). Also, you must cycle it to be most effective (on two weeks, off a month is one good way to cycle it that I would recommend).

On the other hand, one of the good things about the massive amounts of sugar is that so much sugar helps the creatine (and other ingredients) to be more bioavailable for your system, which is really why it works so well.

Although I recommend it because it works well, I personally no longer take it because now that I am in my 20’s and in college, I am more concerned about the long term effects on my body from using it. You can make your own conclusions from this. I do think it works probably the best of all, but I do not take it because of possible long term negative effects and because I care about my teeth and my liver and such.

I liked Anavol (by NxCare) because it is just creatine on a time release, so instead of forcing its way into your system, it works with your system to be the most bioavailable. Also, Anavol has glutamine, which helps with recovery. There are no other ingredients; and simplicity, in my opinion, is always good, especially if it works.I don’t take any creatine right now, because I drink an occasional coffee (after reading new studies that coffee can actually help you live longer — google it!), and because coffee has antibacterial and antioxidant properties.

I also find that coffee after workouts helps to eliminate the psychological fatigue, or mental drain, that you get after a great workout; although most of the time, since my personal ideal workout time is at night, I just go to sleep afterwards.

You see, caffeine has properties which negate the benefits creatine gives you. I could go into all the adenosine triphosphate description of exactly how this is, but most people either don’t care about the technical aspect, or don’t understand such technicality.

Basically, drinking coffee (or soda or energy drinks with caffeine, or weight loss supplements with caffeine, or anything else with caffeine) makes the creatine not work.



Creatine is essential for energy in every human because it is actually part of the molecule that makes every person’s primary energy source, which is ATP. When ATP is used for energy, it is broken down, and the part that goes to waste is called creatinine. Taking creatine monohydrate simply “recycles” your primary energy source (ATP) by adding the missing part (creatine monohydrate) of the broken down energy (ADP), so it can be ATP again.



In short, although Cell Tech works and is powerful, it has its advantages and disadvantages. One disadvantage is back acne, which is not a side effect of all forms of creatine. Consuming creatine in general can be beneficial to give you more energy to work out as long as you do not consume any caffeine.

Coangler
09-30-2008, 12:14 PM
I really liked the regular anavol, but couldn't find it after anavol hardcore came out. Do they still sell regular anavol anywhere?

irboreddd
09-30-2008, 12:30 PM
I used Cell Mass and SizeOn recently. Cell Mass was decent, no acne develops. SizeOn worked very well, but it gave me some acne on my face. I stopped using it because of the water weight I gained.

bimmermd
09-30-2008, 12:30 PM
I really liked the regular anavol, but couldn't find it after anavol hardcore came out. Do they still sell regular anavol anywhere?

I just did a quick google search ("anavol"), and I got this:

http://www.vitamindeal.com/nxcare-anavol-180.html

So it appears that at several online marketplaces, they do sell the original Anavol. I wish bodybuilding.com sold it, because I prefer to buy from them. They have always gotten my orders right and always ship quickly; sometimes I get my supplements overnight! (that is from the PA warehouse and I am in MD)

bimmermd
09-30-2008, 12:33 PM
I used Cell Mass and SizeOn recently. Cell Mass was decent, no acne develops. SizeOn worked very well, but it gave me some acne on my face. I stopped using it because of the water weight I gained.

I personally can deal with back acne (to an extent, although annoying) but face acne would be a no-go for me. Thanks for the advice on SizeOn. I use Proactive and get pretty much no acne, so I am happy. I sound like a spokesperson. I'm not lol

IronMan9201
09-30-2008, 07:19 PM
I used Cell Mass and SizeOn recently. Cell Mass was decent, no acne develops. SizeOn worked very well, but it gave me some acne on my face. I stopped using it because of the water weight I gained.

superpump gave u waterweight? isn't the point of it not to ?


any anyone try the n.o. shotgun/ n.o synthesise stack? any reviews? ( and yes this is the right thread; both products contain a full serving of creatine )

45678lololololo
09-30-2008, 07:36 PM
can i use cell mass and xpand energized 2gether hit me up

crazyquick
09-30-2008, 10:59 PM
Hi Crazyquick,

Cell Tech (by Muscletech) is known to give acne, particularly on your back.
results didn?t stay very long. Also it has a massive amount of sugar, and always made my stomach queasy (which I of course ignored). Whatever you do, if you do buy Cell Tech, only buy the Fruit Punch or Grape, because in my
Cell Tech helped me to gain some serious mass back in high school, but the opinion, the Lemon Lime and Orange are unbearable. This flavor preference (at least for me) is true for all similar types of products, including Cell Mass by BSN.

For me, Cell Tech was the only form of creatine that gave me back acne, but it was worth it while the results lasted. I recommend Cell Tech, but the things to consider are, the [high] price; that the results, at least for me, did not stay long after going off it; and the massive amount of sugar, which is bad for your teeth, bad for your liver, and also throws off the healthy bacterial flora that keep down levels of candida albicans in your stomach (in other words it surely doesn?t help your stomach be healthy). Also, you must cycle it to be most effective (on two weeks, off a month is one good way to cycle it that I would recommend).

On the other hand, one of the good things about the massive amounts of sugar is that so much sugar helps the creatine (and other ingredients) to be more bioavailable for your system, which is really why it works so well.

Although I recommend it because it works well, I personally no longer take it because now that I am in my 20?s and in college, I am more concerned about the long term effects on my body from using it. You can make your own conclusions from this. I do think it works probably the best of all, but I do not take it because of possible long term negative effects and because I care about my teeth and my liver and such.

I liked Anavol (by NxCare) because it is just creatine on a time release, so instead of forcing its way into your system, it works with your system to be the most bioavailable. Also, Anavol has glutamine, which helps with recovery. There are no other ingredients; and simplicity, in my opinion, is always good, especially if it works.I don?t take any creatine right now, because I drink an occasional coffee (after reading new studies that coffee can actually help you live longer ? google it!), and because coffee has antibacterial and antioxidant properties.

I also find that coffee after workouts helps to eliminate the psychological fatigue, or mental drain, that you get after a great workout; although most of the time, since my personal ideal workout time is at night, I just go to sleep afterwards.

You see, caffeine has properties which negate the benefits creatine gives you. I could go into all the adenosine triphosphate description of exactly how this is, but most people either don?t care about the technical aspect, or don?t understand such technicality.

Basically, drinking coffee (or soda or energy drinks with caffeine, or weight loss supplements with caffeine, or anything else with caffeine) makes the creatine not work.

?

Creatine is essential for energy in every human because it is actually part of the molecule that makes every person?s primary energy source, which is ATP. When ATP is used for energy, it is broken down, and the part that goes to waste is called creatinine. Taking creatine monohydrate simply ?recycles? your primary energy source (ATP) by adding the missing part (creatine monohydrate) of the broken down energy (ADP), so it can be ATP again.

?

In short, although Cell Tech works and is powerful, it has its advantages and disadvantages. One disadvantage is back acne, which is not a side effect of all forms of creatine. Consuming creatine in general can be beneficial to give you more energy to work out as long as you do not consume any caffeine.

Hey i cant thank you enough for writing about it with such detail. I took what u said to heart and greatly appreciate it! yeah i am concerned about the health effects of creatine, mainly i just hope that its not a product that someone can overdose on and drop dead

Sneak2002
10-01-2008, 08:24 AM
did any one heard about gorilla my friend saying that while he was using it for 1 month muscles were poping out .... he's 25

SionX
10-01-2008, 08:51 AM
You can't take creatine with caffeine? What about animal pump and its red pill?

tellmewhy
10-01-2008, 11:50 AM
I see a lot of people hyping the Green Mag. I don't know much about health and body building but what I do know is that you shouldn't cut health for "gains". Green Mag has Taurine and Tyrosine in it, both are not healthy and even worse when they are together. This product is more a pre workout pump than a creatine supplement. I dunno, I just felt the need to say this. This forum in general sketches me out because the hype is directly related to whats the front page in the store LINKED to the forum.

I just put my tail between my legs. Put my money where my mouth was and bought some Green Mag to check it out. Its awesome, no head aches from taking it, no bloating. The taste is the best part, it taste like sour apple fun sticks; I wish you could make protein taste like that

asalways
10-02-2008, 08:19 AM
Yeah im thinking of trying some of their products soon as well se whats happens:)
What Products did u try so far? Any Creatine or weight gainer with good results?

CONTROLLED LABS
10-02-2008, 10:33 AM
Just ordered myself some Green MAGnitude, got a pretty good price so I'm chuffed. First time using a CL product, and first time using a creatine product as well actually, pretty excited for it to arrive now!


I just put my tail between my legs. Put my money where my mouth was and bought some Green Mag to check it out. Its awesome, no head aches from taking it, no bloating. The taste is the best part, it taste like sour apple fun sticks; I wish you could make protein taste like that

thanks for giving us a shot guys, glad you are enjoying it. the effects are great and many on here have said its the best tasting supplement around :)

Inspired916
10-02-2008, 10:56 AM
picked up Kre-Alkalyn, ive used 3 other creatine's and this stuff kicks the comps ass!

TxTreb88
10-02-2008, 11:26 AM
Just ordered myself some Green MAGnitude, got a pretty good price so I'm chuffed. First time using a CL product, and first time using a creatine product as well actually, pretty excited for it to arrive now!

good choice, can't go wrong with Green Mag.

tallguy21
10-02-2008, 01:41 PM
picked up Kre-Alkalyn, ive used 3 other creatine's and this stuff kicks the comps ass!

nice! i'm starting on that tonight.....how many pills you take?

TruculentTrev
10-02-2008, 07:18 PM
BSN cell mass is deffinately the best i've tried!

one of the problems with creatine is that you can become bloated as a side effect and therefore loose some deffinition and when you loose abdominal deffinition it can be depressing when you are proud of them!

basic pure creatine by MRM and Higher Power left me a little bloated so i stopped using them and same thing with Muscletech cell tech.

I've used BSN for about 3 months and ive had virtually no signs of storing water on top of my abs or other areas and thats why im about to buy my second tub of it!

NiteHawk
10-03-2008, 02:04 AM
You can't take creatine with caffeine? What about animal pump and its red pill?

You can take creatine with caffeine. That is a myth that you cant.

NateTheGreat19
10-03-2008, 09:33 AM
BSN cell mass is deffinately the best i've tried!

one of the problems with creatine is that you can become bloated as a side effect and therefore loose some deffinition and when you loose abdominal deffinition it can be depressing when you are proud of them!

basic pure creatine by MRM and Higher Power left me a little bloated so i stopped using them and same thing with Muscletech cell tech.

I've used BSN for about 3 months and ive had virtually no signs of storing water on top of my abs or other areas and thats why im about to buy my second tub of it!

I guess you react differently than others...

sizeon is so far the best, no bloating, no headaches, no cramps!

onelifetolive
10-03-2008, 07:13 PM
awesome thread guys :) been reading for a while now and i've pretty much been convinced to load my cart up with WF, PW, GM, and orange triad. been on creakic for about a month and a half now and admittedly im seeing good gains but it seems like everyone is so gunho about this hulk juice that i just have to try it. my question is about ECA, ive been an advocate of it for a while and been on it along with the creakic and am wondering if i should or need ECA stacked on top of WF, PW, GM? I plan to take all these at the same time pre workout as well, is that the best plan of attack?

jdjprimer19
10-03-2008, 10:26 PM
I enjoy Controlled Labs products greatly, but if you are tight on cash I highly recommend Higher Power's Micronized Creatine. Simple monohydrate gets the job done. I've gone from 180.2lbs to 184.9lbs in a matter of 8 days.

wrenb10
10-04-2008, 01:07 PM
cell tech by MescleTech

UrbanAU
10-04-2008, 01:15 PM
Cell Tech without a doubt.

Even after being off of it for months, I see no loss in my body mass or strength. I just started using it again September 1st at 190 pounds. Now at 206working towards my goal of 225 and superior definition. I also keep my wieght when not using Cell Tech.

But I have to admit, my body reacts very well to Cell Tech. I have seen the opposite effect on others.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-04-2008, 01:23 PM
awesome thread guys :) been reading for a while now and i've pretty much been convinced to load my cart up with WF, PW, GM, and orange triad. been on creakic for about a month and a half now and admittedly im seeing good gains but it seems like everyone is so gunho about this hulk juice that i just have to try it. my question is about ECA, ive been an advocate of it for a while and been on it along with the creakic and am wondering if i should or need ECA stacked on top of WF, PW, GM? I plan to take all these at the same time pre workout as well, is that the best plan of attack?

you will love the stack, keep us posted.

you dont need eca while on the stack, but be sure to cycle off stims for at least a week before starting white flood, especially if you have been on ECA for a long time :)

onelifetolive
10-04-2008, 03:56 PM
you will love the stack, keep us posted.

you dont need eca while on the stack, but be sure to cycle off stims for at least a week before starting white flood, especially if you have been on ECA for a long time :)

Ah a week sounds perfect, sounds like the shipment should arrive in around that time frame. sorry if im a little new to the terminology but by stims do you mean the creakic too? And I would still prefer a fat burner in my stack and was recommended reduction by you guys as well. But im seeing a ton of caffeine with both the WF and reduction...

CaptainScarlet
10-05-2008, 03:29 AM
I,m using Creakic ,buyed at GNC now i finish my first month.,salesperson at GNC recommend me Amplified Creatine 189(made by GNC) and said is better than Creakic
What did you think?
of course; i'm new here and don't know what is monohydrate creatine..
thanks

Freebush
10-05-2008, 07:42 PM
I'm currently having an argument with my friend about creatine use. Are there any long term negative side effects to this product? If so, what?

Thanks...

fischetti
10-05-2008, 10:34 PM
you will love the stack, keep us posted.

you dont need eca while on the stack, but be sure to cycle off stims for at least a week before starting white flood, especially if you have been on ECA for a long time :)
WHAT IS STIMS!!!!!i truly dont know,and i know everything:)

fischetti
10-05-2008, 10:36 PM
WHAT IS STIMS!!!!!i truly dont know,and i know everything:)

Maybe short for stimulants:)as that right

Dedicated37
10-05-2008, 10:39 PM
Maybe short for stimulants:)as that right

Yes, short from "stimulants".

CONTROLLED LABS
10-06-2008, 09:24 PM
Maybe short for stimulants:)as that right

correct, like caffiene and theobromine

cmack777
10-06-2008, 09:35 PM
I didn't think there was a significant difference in brands of creatine. I use creatine monohydrate from ********. I think it's a Vitamin Shoppe brand. It costs $15. I guess it works pretty well. During the load in phase my size definately improved and so did my strength. Righ now i just take a single dose to maintain.

Shikaz
10-07-2008, 06:01 PM
could not find sizeon or cellmass in my country.
which you think guys is better ?
Animal Pump ? or Creatine monohydrate

by the way the supps i use at the moment are
ANimal Pak
Whey Protein
Hydroxycut

i am telling you all the supps so you can tell me which creatine is better for me.

thanks

palanilopez12
10-07-2008, 07:25 PM
I have taken different creatines including size on which is suppossed to be great but didnt really work for me...left me feeling bloated and didnt really see results that were all that great...i moved on to green mag and have not looked back since...i am on my third tub now and honestly wonder why i never tried it before after having read everything on here already...definately buy from bb.com store and stack it with WF and PW for a great workout and great results...all you have to do is try it once and you will be hooked like I and so many others are...thanks controlled labs

Miker619
10-07-2008, 08:57 PM
Im a cell-tech fan myself, although MT doesn't get much love on these boards. Its high sugar which is a positive for creatine absorption, but a negative because its 75g of sugar. I just find myself watching my sugar intake in my meals when im on it. It has great effects on some people and can react very badly to others which is most likely due to the sugar.

Antz1980
10-07-2008, 10:05 PM
"BodyScienece" Micronized Mono seems to be working ok.

Death Head
10-08-2008, 02:00 AM
Just buy a tub of regular creatine monohydrate. Its still the best and cheapest. I am currently using American Bodybuilding CreaForce.

agreed, when u first start out for sure. i made crazy gains from taking it a while back. could actually do heavier bicep curls then now, lol.

Death Head
10-08-2008, 02:24 AM
Hi Crazyquick,

Cell Tech (by Muscletech) is known to give acne, particularly on your back.

Cell Tech helped me to gain some serious mass back in high school, but the results didn?t stay very long. Also it has a massive amount of sugar, and always made my stomach queasy (which I of course ignored). Whatever you do, if you do buy Cell Tech, only buy the Fruit Punch or Grape, because in my opinion, the Lemon Lime and Orange are unbearable. This flavor preference (at least for me) is true for all similar types of products, including Cell Mass by BSN.

For me, Cell Tech was the only form of creatine that gave me back acne, but it was worth it while the results lasted. I recommend Cell Tech, but the things to consider are, the [high] price; that the results, at least for me, did not stay long after going off it; and the massive amount of sugar, which is bad for your teeth, bad for your liver, and also throws off the healthy bacterial flora that keep down levels of candida albicans in your stomach (in other words it surely doesn?t help your stomach be healthy). Also, you must cycle it to be most effective (on two weeks, off a month is one good way to cycle it that I would recommend).

On the other hand, one of the good things about the massive amounts of sugar is that so much sugar helps the creatine (and other ingredients) to be more bioavailable for your system, which is really why it works so well.

Although I recommend it because it works well, I personally no longer take it because now that I am in my 20?s and in college, I am more concerned about the long term effects on my body from using it. You can make your own conclusions from this. I do think it works probably the best of all, but I do not take it because of possible long term negative effects and because I care about my teeth and my liver and such.

I liked Anavol (by NxCare) because it is just creatine on a time release, so instead of forcing its way into your system, it works with your system to be the most bioavailable. Also, Anavol has glutamine, which helps with recovery. There are no other ingredients; and simplicity, in my opinion, is always good, especially if it works.I don?t take any creatine right now, because I drink an occasional coffee (after reading new studies that coffee can actually help you live longer ? google it!), and because coffee has antibacterial and antioxidant properties.

I also find that coffee after workouts helps to eliminate the psychological fatigue, or mental drain, that you get after a great workout; although most of the time, since my personal ideal workout time is at night, I just go to sleep afterwards.

You see, caffeine has properties which negate the benefits creatine gives you. I could go into all the adenosine triphosphate description of exactly how this is, but most people either don?t care about the technical aspect, or don?t understand such technicality.

Basically, drinking coffee (or soda or energy drinks with caffeine, or weight loss supplements with caffeine, or anything else with caffeine) makes the creatine not work.

?

Creatine is essential for energy in every human because it is actually part of the molecule that makes every person?s primary energy source, which is ATP. When ATP is used for energy, it is broken down, and the part that goes to waste is called creatinine. Taking creatine monohydrate simply ?recycles? your primary energy source (ATP) by adding the missing part (creatine monohydrate) of the broken down energy (ADP), so it can be ATP again.

?

In short, although Cell Tech works and is powerful, it has its advantages and disadvantages. One disadvantage is back acne, which is not a side effect of all forms of creatine. Consuming creatine in general can be beneficial to give you more energy to work out as long as you do not consume any caffeine.

i've never that u can't take creatine and caffeine at the same time. that would mean that almost every pre-workout drink is a huge scam!!

Valenzuelatech
10-08-2008, 02:26 AM
Creatine Monohydrate. (creapure)

its cheap and absorbs well. creatine is a very simple compound. why is everyone spending money like crazy on expensive formulas?! put that money to good use and get some steak!

as for taking it, just mix it with water, yes water.. juice may make it absorb faster..but FASTER does not nessasarily mean BETTER!

be sure to drink it as soon as you mix it with water and ther ya go, 2.5 grams pre and post workout, no need to load or cycle. simple.

try Universal's creatine monohydrate, it contains German grade creapure

Douger807
10-08-2008, 11:05 AM
Well, been browsing this site for awhile but I think I am finally going to start posting...anyways...

Creatine Mono (Higher Power) is what works for me. I just take a tsp (~5 grams) drop it in my mouth and take a swig of water. I have always taken my creatine like that and it has always worked.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-08-2008, 01:34 PM
I have taken different creatines including size on which is suppossed to be great but didnt really work for me...left me feeling bloated and didnt really see results that were all that great...i moved on to green mag and have not looked back since...i am on my third tub now and honestly wonder why i never tried it before after having read everything on here already...definately buy from bb.com store and stack it with WF and PW for a great workout and great results...all you have to do is try it once and you will be hooked like I and so many others are...thanks controlled labs

awesome to hear. you just cant go wrong with green mag. for effects, taste and value there is nothing close to it, and we offer free samples through bb.com :)

franktheweapon
10-08-2008, 11:23 PM
vitamin shoppe brand Monohydrate :)

Shikaz
10-09-2008, 03:56 AM
i tried MMUSA ATP Creatine Serum and for me it did NOTHING big NOTHING !!
i know its a page for the best creatine but i have nothing to share than the worst creatine till now.

in my area i could not find any sizeon or green mag so i am going to creatine monohydrate by optimum nutrition. what do you think guys?

also i heard that tricreatine and micronized they absorb more.

but i only found that. and i will later shop from bb.com but for now i want to buy something very soon.

what do you think??!?!??1

fischetti
10-09-2008, 04:40 AM
Well, been browsing this site for awhile but I think I am finally going to start posting...anyways...

Creatine Mono (Higher Power) is what works for me. I just take a tsp (~5 grams) drop it in my mouth and take a swig of water. I have always taken my creatine like that and it has always worked.

;)Thats a silly way of taking creatine):

Valenzuelatech
10-09-2008, 09:04 AM
Creatine Mono (Higher Power) is what works for me. I just take a tsp (~5 grams) drop it in my mouth and take a swig of water. I have always taken my creatine like that and it has always worked.

I think its bloody genius! as long as you drink alot of water after you wash it down, there shouldnt be any absorption problems

justdoit08
10-09-2008, 11:32 AM
always a great choice

you will love it. the effects match the great taste :)

its a great value and very effective as a cell volumizer. take plenty of water with it and there shouldnt be any side effects


i just recievedmy green mag today and will start taking it tommrow but it says for first time take half scoop instead of 1 scoop shall i do that or take the whole 1 scoop on the first day?

and then after that ill be working out 4 times a week so ill be taking it 4 days a week and leaving the rest 3 days out right?

paganman
10-09-2008, 11:47 AM
i just recievedmy green mag today and will start taking it tommrow but it says for first time take half scoop instead of 1 scoop shall i do that or take the whole 1 scoop on the first day?

and then after that ill be working out 4 times a week so ill be taking it 4 days a week and leaving the rest 3 days out right?


I started with one scoop, but I've taken creatine (monohydrate) for a while now.

Take GM every day.

jackie chan
10-09-2008, 11:51 AM
what about EAS phospagen?
I will try it without loading and keep it on 10 g per day.What do you think?
And what is bette to drink it with watter or juice or gainer?Or it doesnt matters?I heard that for example gainer can ruin the quality and therfore efect of it.

paganman
10-09-2008, 12:47 PM
what about EAS phospagen?
I will try it without loading and keep it on 10 g per day.What do you think?
And what is bette to drink it with watter or juice or gainer?Or it doesnt matters?I heard that for example gainer can ruin the quality and therfore efect of it.


Creatine uptake into skeletal muscle is facilitated by insulin signaling pathways, which is why it's recommended to be taken with simple glucose (to induce an insulin spike). I think grape juice is generally highly recommended, although I can't understand why grape juice is better than any other sugar-containing juice.

jddagr
10-09-2008, 12:53 PM
Cellmass, hard solid gains, low sugar. Love it

jackie chan
10-09-2008, 01:31 PM
Creatine uptake into skeletal muscle is facilitated by insulin signaling pathways, which is why it's recommended to be taken with simple glucose (to induce an insulin spike). I think grape juice is generally highly recommended, although I can't understand why grape juice is better than any other sugar-containing juice.

yeah i think juice is good choice.And what about dosages? for 198lbs body weight is 10 grams per day enough?I think that more is not necessery for body.And what are the best times to take it? .I am just having stupid questions :) its my first creatine and the goal is to get from 330lbs bench to 352lbs , so i want it to work correctly:)

paganman
10-09-2008, 02:10 PM
yeah i think juice is good choice.And what about dosages? for 198lbs body weight is 10 grams per day enough?I think that more is not necessery for body.And what are the best times to take it? .I am just having stupid questions :) its my first creatine and the goal is to get from 330lbs bench to 352lbs , so i want it to work correctly:)


10 grams is probably fine. When I was taking creatine mono, I loaded with 15 grams for 5 days, then 5 grams daily maintenance. But I've heard that 5-10 grams daily is generally acceptable.


As for the time: I generally added mine to my post workout protein shake. On non workout days, I took it first thing in the morning.

IronMan9201
10-09-2008, 07:23 PM
10 grams is probably fine. When I was taking creatine mono, I loaded with 15 grams for 5 days, then 5 grams daily maintenance. But I've heard that 5-10 grams daily is generally acceptable.


As for the time: I generally added mine to my post workout protein shake. On non workout days, I took it first thing in the morning.

yea its good to have about 30 minutes before workout and right after. so split the doses. and don't mix it with any type of acidy liquid. but green mag and anabolic switch worked for me. however green mag taste wise to anabolic switch is like cotton candy to a lemons ass. I wanna try size on. any thoughts?

kbismadkool
10-09-2008, 08:03 PM
Hi Crazyquick,

Cell Tech (by Muscletech) is known to give acne, particularly on your back.

Cell Tech helped me to gain some serious mass back in high school, but the results didn?t stay very long. Also it has a massive amount of sugar, and always made my stomach queasy (which I of course ignored). Whatever you do, if you do buy Cell Tech, only buy the Fruit Punch or Grape, because in my opinion, the Lemon Lime and Orange are unbearable. This flavor preference (at least for me) is true for all similar types of products, including Cell Mass by BSN.

For me, Cell Tech was the only form of creatine that gave me back acne, but it was worth it while the results lasted. I recommend Cell Tech, but the things to consider are, the [high] price; that the results, at least for me, did not stay long after going off it; and the massive amount of sugar, which is bad for your teeth, bad for your liver, and also throws off the healthy bacterial flora that keep down levels of candida albicans in your stomach (in other words it surely doesn?t help your stomach be healthy). Also, you must cycle it to be most effective (on two weeks, off a month is one good way to cycle it that I would recommend).

On the other hand, one of the good things about the massive amounts of sugar is that so much sugar helps the creatine (and other ingredients) to be more bioavailable for your system, which is really why it works so well.

Although I recommend it because it works well, I personally no longer take it because now that I am in my 20?s and in college, I am more concerned about the long term effects on my body from using it. You can make your own conclusions from this. I do think it works probably the best of all, but I do not take it because of possible long term negative effects and because I care about my teeth and my liver and such.

I liked Anavol (by NxCare) because it is just creatine on a time release, so instead of forcing its way into your system, it works with your system to be the most bioavailable. Also, Anavol has glutamine, which helps with recovery. There are no other ingredients; and simplicity, in my opinion, is always good, especially if it works.I don?t take any creatine right now, because I drink an occasional coffee (after reading new studies that coffee can actually help you live longer ? google it!), and because coffee has antibacterial and antioxidant properties.

I also find that coffee after workouts helps to eliminate the psychological fatigue, or mental drain, that you get after a great workout; although most of the time, since my personal ideal workout time is at night, I just go to sleep afterwards.

You see, caffeine has properties which negate the benefits creatine gives you. I could go into all the adenosine triphosphate description of exactly how this is, but most people either don?t care about the technical aspect, or don?t understand such technicality.

Basically, drinking coffee (or soda or energy drinks with caffeine, or weight loss supplements with caffeine, or anything else with caffeine) makes the creatine not work.

?

Creatine is essential for energy in every human because it is actually part of the molecule that makes every person?s primary energy source, which is ATP. When ATP is used for energy, it is broken down, and the part that goes to waste is called creatinine. Taking creatine monohydrate simply ?recycles? your primary energy source (ATP) by adding the missing part (creatine monohydrate) of the broken down energy (ADP), so it can be ATP again.

?

In short, although Cell Tech works and is powerful, it has its advantages and disadvantages. One disadvantage is back acne, which is not a side effect of all forms of creatine. Consuming creatine in general can be beneficial to give you more energy to work out as long as you do not consume any caffeine.

im on green mag right now and its giving me great results, but i reall ywanna take cell tech to bulk up reall fast cause ive heard reall good stuff about this from people...sooo what do you think? im just gonna use it for like 8 weeks like it says nd then take a break nd go back to green mag

kbismadkool
10-09-2008, 08:07 PM
Hey guys, this is my first post. I recently tried cell tech and i noticed that it gave me acne bumps. IS this common wit hall creatine monohydrate products? I have been considering taking cell mass, does cell mass produce acne at all? thanks

what did you think of cell tech? get good results?

CONTROLLED LABS
10-09-2008, 10:53 PM
i tried MMUSA ATP Creatine Serum and for me it did NOTHING big NOTHING !!
i know its a page for the best creatine but i have nothing to share than the worst creatine till now.

in my area i could not find any sizeon or green mag so i am going to creatine monohydrate by optimum nutrition. what do you think guys?

also i heard that tricreatine and micronized they absorb more.

but i only found that. and i will later shop from bb.com but for now i want to buy something very soon.

what do you think??!?!??1
you can get green magnitude from bb.com or vitamin shoppe

i just recievedmy green mag today and will start taking it tommrow but it says for first time take half scoop instead of 1 scoop shall i do that or take the whole 1 scoop on the first day?

and then after that ill be working out 4 times a week so ill be taking it 4 days a week and leaving the rest 3 days out right?
start with a half scoop the first day, then go up to 1 scoop the second day and each day thereafter.

you should take a scoop on off days as well

yea its good to have about 30 minutes before workout and right after. so split the doses. and don't mix it with any type of acidy liquid. but green mag and anabolic switch worked for me. however green mag taste wise to anabolic switch is like cotton candy to a lemons ass. I wanna try size on. any thoughts?
yeah. many on here have said green magnitude is the best tasting supplement around :)

im on green mag right now and its giving me great results, but i reall ywanna take cell tech to bulk up reall fast cause ive heard reall good stuff about this from people...sooo what do you think? im just gonna use it for like 8 weeks like it says nd then take a break nd go back to green mag
glad to hear it :)

SteakNshake
10-09-2008, 11:02 PM
If I could choose just ONE i'd go with either MRI's CEE (havn't tried hi-def yet). I had really good results from it! But I'm also close to choosing just plain creatine mono... hmm....

quank
10-10-2008, 01:23 AM
MAN Clout

Antz1980
10-10-2008, 03:33 AM
Creatine Mono works fine.

FoxHound630
10-10-2008, 11:03 AM
Creatine Monohydrate. (creapure)

its cheap and absorbs well. creatine is a very simple compound. why is everyone spending money like crazy on expensive formulas?! put that money to good use and get some steak!

as for taking it, just mix it with water, yes water.. juice may make it absorb faster..but FASTER does not nessasarily mean BETTER!

be sure to drink it as soon as you mix it with water and ther ya go, 2.5 grams pre and post workout, no need to load or cycle. simple.

try Universal's creatine monohydrate, it contains German grade creapure

I could not agree more.

I buy regular AST creatine mono...spend your hard earned money some where else.

theone787
10-10-2008, 11:15 AM
i'm a huge fun now of neovar recomped....i started it over a week ago and it's by far the best creatine supp. i've used. i've used creatine mono for years and did two rounds of size on(which i had no serious results from) and neovar blows them out of the water imo

justdoit08
10-10-2008, 04:45 PM
just a quick question, i recieved my green magnitude today and was sealed all fine but the powder seems abit off and smells abit off? is it beause its been kept in wrong storage conditions or is it green mag in its normal form lol because im confused, also tastes like sour lemon n lime then apple or is that just me lol

fozza
10-10-2008, 06:11 PM
My friend has some creatine mono but says he wont take it because its too much effort to take it throughout the day in 5g servings. He also said it makes him cramp up when he runs?

Can you just take creatine once on your off days and before your workouts?

CONTROLLED LABS
10-10-2008, 08:29 PM
just a quick question, i recieved my green magnitude today and was sealed all fine but the powder seems abit off and smells abit off? is it beause its been kept in wrong storage conditions or is it green mag in its normal form lol because im confused, also tastes like sour lemon n lime then apple or is that just me lol

if you have never taken it before, how would you know if its "off" :D

did you get the lemonade flavor?

IronMan9201
10-10-2008, 11:15 PM
Size-On? i heard alot of good things about it but a couple bad. reviews?

justdoit08
10-11-2008, 08:53 AM
if you have never taken it before, how would you know if its "off" :D

did you get the lemonade flavor?



lol ye thats true but you know when you just smell abit of offness in a product thats what im feeling and no its sour apple but tastes nowhere near sour apple lol and as i said more like lime or lemon

FoxHound630
10-11-2008, 09:13 AM
My friend has some creatine mono but says he wont take it because its too much effort to take it throughout the day in 5g servings. He also said it makes him cramp up when he runs?

Can you just take creatine once on your off days and before your workouts?

he might not be drinking enough water.

Ryan314
10-11-2008, 09:26 AM
Just started Anabolic Switch.

We'll see how this goes for the next month ;)

stathis723
10-11-2008, 09:46 AM
if you have never taken it before, how would you know if its "off" :D

did you get the lemonade flavor?

i will have in some days PW and GM lemonades.. how do they taste and how much water do you recommend for a good taste? even though it changes wich each person..

IronMan9201
10-12-2008, 02:08 PM
i will have in some days PW and GM lemonades.. how do they taste and how much water do you recommend for a good taste? even though it changes wich each person..

purple wraath doesn't taste good at first. it's kind of a weird, off flavor like all intra workout amino products. but i got used to it a week or so in and i like it now. also it lasts forever. and green mag tasts good but for me i had to be in the mood for the tangy taste to enjoy it. sometimes i just scooped it into my mouth followed by some water. i liked the taste of it that way better lol. and just follow the instructions for green mag but purple wraath i think tastes better with a little less water.

fozza
10-13-2008, 02:43 AM
Which for pure creatine?

SizeOn
Green Mag.
Storm
Prolab Creatine Mono

and also creatine take on training days only? or even off days?

Yeah mate from what i know you gotta first do a loading phase for about 5 days, so you take about 25g of creatine daily but split it up into 5g servings through out the day. Then after that you can take a full serving before your workout, and also on your off days in the morning which a lot of people do.

Dont quote me on that though!

And for chosing a pure creatine the general consensus is that creatine monohydrate is king. Not saying the others such as Green Mag arent good but i reckon you'd be paying a bit extra because of a fancy name.

spartan19
10-13-2008, 03:37 AM
size on,is it true that Australian supplements are way weaker than Americans because of the legal ingrediant restrictions?

AYB
10-13-2008, 09:53 AM
i jjust piked up a bottle of kreaklyne il let u no how that goes

CONTROLLED LABS
10-13-2008, 10:32 AM
i will have in some days PW and GM lemonades.. how do they taste and how much water do you recommend for a good taste? even though it changes wich each person..

you will love purple wraath and green magnitude. green mag with 6-8 ounces of water if you like it sweet/tart, more if you like it more mild.

purple wraath with 20 ounces of ice cold water per scoop.

RwR72
10-14-2008, 08:54 AM
My Green MAGnitude finally arrived this morning. Was looking forward to tasting it all day long (didn't have time this morning) and MY WORD this is fcuking delicious! It's too early for me to comment on the benefits/results that this product has/will bring to the table, but solely based on taste this stuff is amazing.

Animal76
10-14-2008, 12:21 PM
creatine is creatine. Creatine Monohydrate is all you need. One product is not more effective than another and different forms of creatine are also not more effective. The only thing is to consider with creatine is unit cost.
The only thing that makes a creatine product better than another is the stack of other ingredients in the product than cause a synergistic effect (for example, vasocharge which also has arginine, beta alanine, b-vitamins, caffeine, etc)


If you had to pick just ONE creatine product, what would be the best one for the best results?

Please pick a product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take creatine, if creatine works, or why some creatines do not work. Just list your absolute favorite creatine product and give your detailed reason.)

BIGDADDY84
10-14-2008, 12:24 PM
that was a long read http://nucleardesigns.net/img/254/o08z0930ehge/icon7.gif

TAWS6
10-14-2008, 07:31 PM
Im still deciding. I might give SizeON a try.
How's SizeOn for all the users who used it?

Its decent. I like green mag a little better though.

IUPUI
10-16-2008, 08:26 AM
I use Cell-Tech Hardcore. I see it gets alot of negative feedback on the forums, but I think for bulking periods it is pretty good. People complain about the "sugar", but I assume they just don't know what they are talking about with respect to insulin spike and type of Carbs in it.

I think when using things like Cell-Tech and BSN Cell-Mass you must know your body pretty well and diet to effectively include them into your supplementation.

I believe it has been effective in helping me obtain mass and stay relatively lean simultaneously.

simpleguy
10-16-2008, 09:46 AM
I use Cell-Tech Hardcore. I see it gets alot of negative feedback on the forums, but I think for bulking periods it is pretty good. People complain about the "sugar", but I assume they just don't know what they are talking about with respect to insulin spike and type of Carbs in it.

I think when using things like Cell-Tech and BSN Cell-Mass you must know your body pretty well and diet to effectively include them into your supplementation.

I believe it has been effective in helping me obtain mass and stay relatively lean simultaneously.

nobody here's bashing it for the sugar, it's just the fact that they make it so expensive when most of it is dextrose which is veeeeery cheap... and let's be honest they spend on advertising more then they do on making their supps... take a look at their top sellers... for instance cell tech is advertised with words like ' Nanomolecular Hyperdispersion Technology ' when most of it is just dextrose and 10g of creatine (most of it mono, since it's cheap)...

you draw the conclusions yourself

CONTROLLED LABS
10-16-2008, 11:31 AM
My Green MAGnitude finally arrived this morning. Was looking forward to tasting it all day long (didn't have time this morning) and MY WORD this is fcuking delicious! It's too early for me to comment on the benefits/results that this product has/will bring to the table, but solely based on taste this stuff is amazing.

seriously, people on this very board have called it the best tasting supplement around, period :)

Ninjazn
10-16-2008, 06:37 PM
I'm going to go out and get some Green Mag tomorrow, but when do you guys recommend taking it? Pre or Post workout?

CONTROLLED LABS
10-16-2008, 08:07 PM
I'm going to go out and get some Green Mag tomorrow, but when do you guys recommend taking it? Pre or Post workout?

preworkout for sure. also, on off days make green mag popsicles or slushies, they are damn good :)

Ninjazn
10-16-2008, 08:20 PM
Just 1 scoop a day, correct?

CONTROLLED LABS
10-16-2008, 08:31 PM
Just 1 scoop a day, correct?

yes sir

BUFFY
10-16-2008, 09:07 PM
preworkout for sure. also, on off days make green mag popsicles or slushies, they are damn good :)

With the weather starting to warm up here in Australia that's a damn good idea. Green MAGnitude is definitely a quality product and I've been on it for about two months now. Tastes pretty sweet to, although usually I mix it with White Flood (nitric oxide) pre-workout. The only thing is that the Australian dollar has fallen over 40% which now makes it super expensive buying from bodybuilding.com, so I may not be able to afford CL products in the future as they are hardly stocked in Australia.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-16-2008, 09:40 PM
With the weather starting to warm up here in Australia that's a damn good idea. Green MAGnitude is definitely a quality product and I've been on it for about two months now. Tastes pretty sweet to, although usually I mix it with White Flood (nitric oxide) pre-workout. The only thing is that the Australian dollar has fallen over 40% which now makes it super expensive buying from bodybuilding.com, so I may not be able to afford CL products in the future as they are hardly stocked in Australia.

they are fully stocked at GNC stores in your country,

BUFFY
10-16-2008, 09:49 PM
they are fully stocked at GNC stores in your country,

I've never seen or heard of GNC before...

Edit: found a store on eBay who stocks CL.

Chococat
10-16-2008, 11:45 PM
GM is the best creatine I've ever taken, period. I'm just back into it but way back in the day I took Phosphagen HP and it was the other good one. The rest have been mediocre.

As far as taste goes, I'd drink green apple Green Mag with my food if it wouldn't break the bank. =oP

_diamond_
10-17-2008, 07:34 AM
Haj guys... Can anyone tell me what is the different and which is better?

healthfreek
10-17-2008, 09:58 AM
I've found that you don't have to buy the big brand names of creatine. If you go into GNC or Vitamin World where all the big brands are sold you can get the stores own products much less and with benifits. Not to mention they don't break the bank! I've been using creatine for years and find I get great results with store brands. Although If there is one brand that totally surpasses all I would really like to know about it.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-17-2008, 02:49 PM
I've never seen or heard of GNC before...

Edit: found a store on eBay who stocks CL.
serious about gnc???? have you heard of "subway"? :D

GM is the best creatine I've ever taken, period. I'm just back into it but way back in the day I took Phosphagen HP and it was the other good one. The rest have been mediocre.

As far as taste goes, I'd drink green apple Green Mag with my food if it wouldn't break the bank. =oP
awesome, many on hear have said its the best tasting supplement around and it has the effects to match :)

Haj guys... Can anyone tell me what is the different and which is better?
similar, but different. go with the one you like based on form, powder or pills :)

IronMan9201
10-17-2008, 06:31 PM
what do u guys think tasts better, green mag electric lemonade or sour green apple?