What is this Universal Animal M-Stack all about?

[85_305]

http://bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalmethoxy.html


What is up with that? Is that considered a steroid? Do these Animal M Stacks work at giving you real muscle?
Thanx all,
Matt

[nemesisman]

im on it right now...i cant say it works the best. it only has 20% or so sterol saponins which isnt much. im switching to tribulus and 6-oxo and see how that works. M-Stack also doesnt have much caffeine. i think ripped fuel works better.


rep me

[85_305]

Well, I guess what I am trying to say is, "what the hell does it do?", lol. Is it a form of juice, or is it some kind of weight lose supp.? What does tribulus and 6-oxo do?

[warriors]

man u have alot of reading up to do.


As far as the M-stak is concerned it blew balls for me. It's suppose to be their non-hormonal alternative to the animal stak.

[mike21886]

Its garbage, don't waste your money. If you have your heart set on use methoxy isoflavone(which doesn't work) at least buy the cheapest brand and mega does it. The amounts in m-stak are so negligible they wouldnt effect your hamster(if methoxy really did anything).

[pu12en12g]

1. Learn more about methoxy here:

http://bodybuilding.com/store/methoxy.html

2. 95% of Universal animal products are overpriced, underdosed garbage. Also, despite what the science says.... oral methoxy has gotten terrible reviews so far, so the only ingredients in that product that have a chance of working, are the cheaper, Nitric Oxide precursors.

3. Basically, there is no good reason to buy that product at all whatsoever.

[Maki_Man]

95% of Universal animal products are overpriced, underdosed garbage.

Come on now, be nice... I've used Animal Pak, Animal Nitro and Animal Stak 2, and all three are good products. I don't know about the other ones, but these three have all gotten other solid reviews here.

[nemesisman]

definately need to read up on it. as for taking it...i think its garbage. its got some good stuff in it however im stopping it monday and cleaning for a week and then doing a cycle of tribulus and 6-oxo. we'll see how that works

[85_305]

Hm.. I gusss I *do* have some reading up to do. I quickly glanced over that link someone gave me, and it seemed like that methoxy stuff was really good stuff. Dang...
Thanx Paul ;)

[sowle2themax]

Hm.. I gusss I *do* have some reading up to do. I quickly glanced over that link someone gave me, and it seemed like that methoxy stuff was really good stuff. Dang...
Thanx Paul ;)
some more info
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=401174&highlight=methoxy
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=401174&highlight=methoxy
People say for it to be effective it has to be trensdermally, it won't work oraly
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=312542&highlight=methoxy
product x dermasize
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/legal/pxderm.html
most people say to buy 2 bottles, beacuse they start feeling it working and the first bottle is almost gone
gunna give this product a go in the near future just strapped for money right now
probably next bulk:)
have fun reading:D:P

[85_305]

Thanx for the links, very good reading. By the sounds of it, methoxy is not for me. I need something far more powerful than that ;)

[neodtgonzo]

I do not know why there is so much bad vibes about Animal products, I have been on Animal Pak, Animal M-Stak and Stak 2 and I am getting great results, but remmeber that I have never been on Prohormones and I stick to a strict diet and workout plan. The results aren't mind blowing but I did not expect that, they do their job if you do yours.

[85_305]

I dunno.. I need something that will give me better gains than "..aren't mind blowing..". How does it compare to creatine or protein? Same thing?

[Lonny]

I dunno.. I need something that will give me better gains than "..aren't mind blowing..". How does it compare to creatine or protein? Same thing?


This isn't quite a science question. Try and keep your posts to the regular supplement board.

This is nothing like creatine or protein. M-Stack is just a bunch of ineffective "supposed anabolic boosters".

Start reading about the basics of supplementation.

[MuscleCyko]

I dunno.. I need something that will give me better gains than "..aren't mind blowing..". How does it compare to creatine or protein? Same thing?

My man, you want to make bodybuilding a life long comittment. Yes you have to work hard in order to make gains. I am on animal stack 2. The results are there, but then again, they are not steroids or ph for that matter.
If you go to the gym with NO SUPPLEMENTS, with a good program, train intense, and eat right, you will make gains. Add protien first. Then creatine. See how your gains are then. Animal stack 2 is something i would add next. Don't want to much to quick, or you will be on the track to steroids. If that isn't what you want, then focus on your training. YOU CAN MAKE GAINS WITH NO SUPPLEMENTS. Learn how to make gains without them first, then add them to enhance your gains. Don't be greedy and lazy

[nemesisman]

i agree with the guy above me. ive been going to the gym, pumping hard and eating clean and ive noticed gains and improvement in overall look. i can say its due to protein and good nutrition but i cant say that its been due to M-stak. but overall you cant depend on supplements alone

[Ace Rothstein]

I've taken M-Stak and while it is not necessarily a miracle supplement (nothing legal is) it has gotten me amped to train and I made solid strength gains while using it. Definitely worth trying once, everybody reacts differently to supplements. Peace out.

[85_305]

I do work hard; mon-friday. Different body parts everyday. Deffenintly gaining, but not fast enough. I am currently on creatine mono and protein. I dont know what i should buy first (due to lack of money right now.); these M-Packs, or sesathin (to shave BF% down a tad.). Any suggestions?

[neodtgonzo]

I have to agree with Ace Rothstein, don't plan on finding "the best supplement" some supplements work for people and some don't. But take advice from the guy above us who said to stick to a hardcore workout wtih no supplements because that works too. Supplements only help you make muscle not nesscarly make it for you.

[Lonny]

I do work hard; mon-friday. Different body parts everyday. Deffenintly gaining, but not fast enough. I am currently on creatine mono and protein. I dont know what i should buy first (due to lack of money right now.); these M-Packs, or sesathin (to shave BF% down a tad.). Any suggestions?

The m-stack will do very little if anything. it cannot create muscle, you need to eat to create muscle.

Your money is better spent on more protein.

Seathin is a much better invesment. Infinitely better.

[85_305]

Ok.. Sesathin it is! Thanx for your help everyone!

[sowle2themax]

yup if i had to schoose between the 2 i would go with sesathin hands down

[85_305]

But the thing that is kinda holding me back is, I have heard this stuff makes your muscles go flat. I am self-conscious enough about my muscles not showing through enough, this stuff would only make it worse.

[laminatedworm]

quit trying to look for a miracle drug that will give you instant muscle. even taking steroids won't give you instant muscle as most people think. start with whey protein. maybe add some creatine later on. i don't believe in adding it right off. especially if you're a noob. eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat. clean foods. 1.5-2 g's of protein per lb. of bodyweight. slep 8-10 hrs. a great multi. i personally take animal pak and get a great energy rush from it right after i take it. different supplements effect different people. but i personally think it's some pretty awesome ****. but as always there will be plenty of people that will tell you it doesn't work.

number one key is consistency.

[pu12en12g]

Come on now, be nice... I've used Animal Pak, Animal Nitro and Animal Stak 2, and all three are good products. I don't know about the other ones, but these three have all gotten other solid reviews here.

Maki,

Are you affiliated with Universal in any way ?

Just curious....