Will it ever go away??

[Pave FE]

Hello there,

This is my first time posting. I have a very good experience with the gym. I started working in a gym 8 years ago, but starting working out about only about 5 years ago when I started dating my husband. I get tired of going and the chaos soemtimes, plus i am really lazy.

Anyhoo, my hubby and I started the new "resolution" the 1st. So I just started week 4 (Sunday). I have a totally clean diet, eating 6 small meals a day. Eating my weight in protein, watching the carbs, eating the good ones, blah blah blah. I eat no added sugars, fast food of any kind, I have been very strict with myself. I supplement with protein powder, CLA, fish oil, glutamine and Lipo-6 as a fat burner. I have absolutely no gains, losses etc. I mean I feel my muscles tightening up and I am lifting heavier everyday. So some gains, but just not what I am hoping for. (I want to be a supermodel :0) Yeah, who doesn't right?? I max out every time and I only work one body part per day, plenty of rest, you know the drill.

So I now ask, will I ever see any results. I am 5'2", 31 yo. I know I have been slacking on the cardio, but just cleaning up my diet should do something right?? My husband has seen tremendous gains, it is so depressing. Please tell me something will happen soon.

[bscrusher]

post the schedule of your training and the lifts, and the set/rep/rest/%-of-rom protocol.

p.s. will what ever go away?

[sarawood6]

I'm gonna back bscrusher up on this one. Send in a log of a workout instead of the "blah blah blah" because even thought it really doesn't sound like it, there could be a possiblity for overtraining. But I'm only saying that because of the lack of results. Also, do you know your body fat? It could be possible that you are gaining muscle and losing body fat which is keeping you at a neutral weight. Not very likely but we're all different. And are you absolutely positive you are taking in the right amounts of protein and not too many calories? You sound like you know what you need to do for the most part and having your husband around can help but are you absolutely positive that your grams are set up for your build and body type? If you really want to see some results, I'll give you my cutting diet. You'll see results I promise. We're built about the same so you wouldn't have to change the grams much.

[Pave FE]

Will my a$$ ever go away. :0) I will post my journal in jus a bit. Thanks!

[Sunshineslynn]

fyi it wont go away it will just tighten up and look great in jeans. I have per my husband an onion or Jlo butt with out the fat though. So no it wont go away it will just look better. Please post your workout so we can help ya a little further.


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[Hibiscus09]

Post your daily calories also -- you have to be eating enough food to make progress -- not just the right types of food. :)

[MotoGirl]

Anyhoo, my hubby and I started the new "resolution" the 1st. So I just started week 4 (Sunday).

My husband has seen tremendous gains, it is so depressing. Please tell me something will happen soon.

Congratulations on getting out there and making a change!! :)

BUT, you cannot compare your progress to your husband's. I, too, am always left behind when my husband is working out, even when he's been on a two year break and I've been at it consistently the whole time. Men's bodies are simply different and they always seem to get results very quickly, unlike females. However, if it makes you feel any better, he will eventually hit a plateau just like the rest of us and he'll look to you for help and sympathy. :D

[bscrusher]

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Originally Posted by Pave FE


Anyhoo, my hubby and I started the new "resolution" the 1st. So I just started week 4 (Sunday).

My husband has seen tremendous gains, it is so depressing. Please tell me something will happen soon.



MotoGirl

Congratulations on getting out there and making a change!!

BUT, you cannot compare your progress to your husband's. I, too, am always left behind when my husband is working out, even when he's been on a two year break and I've been at it consistently the whole time. Men's bodies are simply different and they always seem to get results very quickly, unlike females. However, if it makes you feel any better, he will eventually hit a plateau just like the rest of us and he'll look to you for help and sympathy.

this difference in progress is the result of a difference in genetic potential, not a difference because of gender, IF you and your husband are both doing identical programs.

if you are doing different programs then there is nothing to compare.

[Girlie]

this difference in progress is the result of a difference in genetic potential, not a difference because of gender, IF you and your husband are both doing identical programs.

if you are doing different programs then there is nothing to compare.

sorry to split hairs, but it seems to me that genetic potential can be a function of gender to some extent. on balance, men put on muscle more quickly and easily than women do. on balance, men tend to hold onto fat less. (even given identical training programs.)

there are always exceptions of course.

[bscrusher]

sorry to split hairs, but it seems to me that genetic potential can be a function of gender to some extent.

wrong.


on balance, men put on muscle more quickly and easily than women do.

yes they do, and we know this already, and we know by how much, so obviously when we speak of genetic potential there is no point in bringing up the difference between men and women because it is only a difference in HOW FAST muscle is gained. also there is much more VARIATION in potential speed of gains between INDIVIDUALS than between the average potential of the genders.


on balance, men tend to hold onto fat less. (even given identical training programs.)

see above.


there are always exceptions of course.

exactly, see above again.


ok, the big, BIG secret i am about to give you all is this...

there is no difference in WHAT CAUSES MUSCLE GAIN, OR ANYTHING ELSE, between men and women.

when you understand that your programs and your understanding of them will be much improved.

[afchick]

Sorry, I didn't realize I posted under my husband's name. Oops. :0) I'm not really Pave FE. He would be mad to think people thought he was posting a chick forum.

Ok, my journal, I will give you my average daily meals and my work out split.

Breakfast:
Protein shake w/ non-fat milk (by max muscle, 90 calories w/water)
Fruit or half whole wheat bagel

Mid-morning:
3 or 4 boiled egg whites
oatmeal
fruit

Lunch:
Chicken breast
brown rice, 1/2-1 cup
veggies

Post workout:
protein shake with water
fruit

Dinner Chicken breast, lean beef, or fish
veggies
salad

bedtime:
Protein shake w/ water

Workouts: I work out at 3:00pm
Sun- Legs
Squats, leg press, lunges or step-ups, leg extensions, leg curls always 4 sets, I pyramid
Mon- Shoulders
Shoulder press w/ barbell or dumbells or both, lateral raises, front raises, reverse pec dec
Tues- cardio-run
Wed- Back
pull-ups, wide grip or closed grip pull downs, sometimes both, seated rows, bent over rows
Thurs- Chest
flat bench press, incline, flyes, pec dec, push-ups
Fri- Arms
push downs, one arms, reverse pull downs, bicep curls, standing or seated, hammer curls, concentration curls.
Sat- Cardio-run

It all varies of course. I try to stick to 3-4 exercises per body part. I pyramid up, always pushiing myself to do more.

I drink a protein shake within 15 minutes after working out with 5 grams of glutamine

I take 6 grams of fish oil per day
I take 6 grams of CLA
a multi vitamin
10 grams of glutamine
Lipo 6 three times per day

That's really all that I can think of.

Oh yeah, I don't really want my ass to go away, I just want the fat to go away. I am sick of looking at my chunky thighs. :0) I have been pretty strict w/ myself.

I have no idea what my body fat is, I don't really know what my caloric intake a day is either.

I appreciate the help. I need it.

[bscrusher]

where is the recovery?

if you put 3 or 4 rest days in your schedule you will see results immediately.

you have to train intensely and recover from your intense training or you will be spinning your wheels forever.

do not try to do a 6 way split. there might be a very few olympia contenders who will get maximum benefit from a 6 way split. is that you?

try a simple full-body or a 3 or 3 way split.

do only 1 to 3 lifts per session.

[afchick]

What do you mean by a 3 or 3 way split and what do you mean by only 1 or 3 lifts per session? Could you be a little more specific? And 4 days off per week? Wouldn't that mean more off time that working out time??

[FullWeekRental]

Hello there,

This is my first time posting. I have a very good experience with the gym. I started working in a gym 8 years ago, but starting working out about only about 5 years ago when I started dating my husband. I get tired of going and the chaos soemtimes, plus i am really lazy.

Anyhoo, my hubby and I started the new "resolution" the 1st. So I just started week 4 (Sunday). I have a totally clean diet, eating 6 small meals a day. Eating my weight in protein, watching the carbs, eating the good ones, blah blah blah. I eat no added sugars, fast food of any kind, I have been very strict with myself. I supplement with protein powder, CLA, fish oil, glutamine and Lipo-6 as a fat burner. I have absolutely no gains, losses etc. I mean I feel my muscles tightening up and I am lifting heavier everyday. So some gains, but just not what I am hoping for. (I want to be a supermodel :0) Yeah, who doesn't right?? I max out every time and I only work one body part per day, plenty of rest, you know the drill.

So I now ask, will I ever see any results. I am 5'2", 31 yo. I know I have been slacking on the cardio, but just cleaning up my diet should do something right?? My husband has seen tremendous gains, it is so depressing. Please tell me something will happen soon.
I think you will notice strength gains and you will notice you feel way better on a day to day basis, as for seeing changes in your appearance I would say do 30 minutes of weights then 30 minutes of cardio and you should start burning fat and toning those muscles, dont go over the 1 hr mark though..

[theeeguy]

give it time, its only been 4 weeks?, i went through the same thing with my gf, and she eventually seen great results, squats turned my gf's ass into steel, just be patient it will come.

[Sunshineslynn]

And 4 days off per week? Wouldn't that mean more off time that working out time??[/QUOTE]


Your muscles need more than just Saturday to rest and really your not resting then. Your are heading down a road of overtraining. Sorry to be so blunt but that is what I am seeing from what you posted. You must be extremely tired I know I would be. More is not always better. You will never see great results with that split. When you work out that much your muscles just get broken down past repair and growth. You always need one day of total rest no cardio no nothing. and atleast 2 - 3 days of just cardio if you want no lifting.

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[KMat]

You also need to look at your body composition. If your weight is staying the same, but are looking leaner and clothes fitting better, you are losing bodyfat. Could be some muscle memory coming in to play. Gaining muscle while losing body fat. Muscle weighs more than fat..... Just a thought.

[bombay]

What do you mean by a 3 or 3 way split and what do you mean by only 1 or 3 lifts per session? Could you be a little more specific? And 4 days off per week? Wouldn't that mean more off time that working out time??

try a TWO or 3 way split.

unless you are training more than 84 hours a week you will always have more time off than time training. that is a GOOD thing. why would anyone care about such abstract number relations in any case? we are trying to maximize training results, that is all.

1 to 3 lifts per session surely means that at each lifting session you will perform either 1 or 2 or 3 lifts in the course of that session.