Kre-Alkalyn?

[dolfansal]

Has anyone tried the scifit Kre-Alkalyn.

What results have you noticed?

Is it much better than regular creatine?

[Kovalchuk]

I'm using the SCIFIT version in capsule form right now

I absolutely love the product, it is by far the best creatine product i have used so far. However, i have not tried CEE, and that gets alotta good reviews around here. Right now im stacking the Kre-alkalyn with Swole V2, as i wasn't seeing results from the dicreatine malate alone in Swole V2. On Kre-alkalyn my strength is up bigtime, and the price is right on the stuff. I've heard some complaints of bloating, however i haven't experienced that. I did experience alot with regular monohydrate though. My strength increases have been really positive, and im hopeful that size will follow.

My advice, give it a try or try a CEE product

[DSML]

This stuff is the best.I have noticed alot of strenth in all my lifts,recovery is outstanding.They finaly made a cre product that works with no sides at all.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

Kre-Alk creatine is good creatine and produces nice results at about 1g-2g a day.

It is absorbed better than CEE but doesn’t enter the sell as easily as CEE. CEE is absorbed about 50% better than regular Creatine (which isn’t that good) but enters the cell way easier than regular Creatine. Take it pre-workout and post for best results.

I am not going to give my results on Kre-Alk because we have a product coming out with Kre-Alk in it and I don’t want to be in here like "Its great, use products that have it" then be selling it.

FYI the powder is 2.5g per 3/4 tsp.

Sci-fit Kre-Alkalyn Creatine has no scoop or no serving measuring instructions on it.

[badboyslayer]

I've found it as a good strength supplement but I didnt notice any cell-volumizing effects

[rejr246]

is 15 too young to be taking this supplement?

[razortech]

I took cee (CrE2) and liked it much better than regular mono. I did notice some bloating though. Right now I'm at about the end of week two on Sci-Fit's Kre-Alkalyn. I personally think I like the Kre better than the cee and way better than regular mono. Its cheaper (I don't know how much bulk cee is though), you only have to take 2-4 pills a day as opposed to the 8 of CrE2, and I've noticed a slight reduction in bloating possibly from comming off of the CrE2 which I took right before the Kre. I noticed my strength go up on both but more with the Kre. I'd give both the thumbs up but I think I'll stick with the Kre.
I'm no expert but I don't think that any creatine product would be harmful to a 15 year old.

[PowerSwede]

Kre-Alk creatine is good creatine and produces nice results at about 1g-2g a day.

It is absorbed better than CEE but doesn’t enter the sell as easily as CEE. CEE is absorbed about 50% better than regular Creatine (which isn’t that good) but enters the cell way easier than regular Creatine. Take it pre-workout and post for best results.

I am not going to give my results on Kre-Alk because we have a product coming out with Kre-Alk in it and I don’t want to be in here like "Its great, use products that have it" then be selling it.

FYI the powder is 2.5g per 3/4 tsp.

Sci-fit Kre-Alkalyn Creatine has no scoop or no serving measuring instructions on it.

Do you have anything to back up the statement that CEE is absorbed 50% better than creatine mono with? I have seen and question it before without getting any info on it, i just want to see how the research was done.

I really respect your standpoint on not giving your results with Kre-Alk. :)

[mike21886]

is 15 too young to be taking this supplement?


No 15 is fine just take it as the bottle directs..... some may tell you to wait until your 18 but I think you would be ok considering it doesnt effect your hormones and creatine is found naturally in most foods you eat anyway.

[HighRevinSi]

Kre-Alkalyn is by far the most beneficial creatine supplement I have ever taken. It is simply amazing. I had maded consistent gains on a weekly basis, of course I stack other supplements at the same time, but I feel the results are very viable with my strenght gains.

[olotti]

Funny I am just about to purchase the 300g powder form of the Sci Fit Kre-Alkalyn and had some of the same questions. The one question I still have is do you still have to add dextrose to your post workout shake w/ kre-alkalyn ie. create an insulin spike?

[LB4LB.]

If your PWO shake has some sugar (eg a weight gainer) you should be ok... make it easy pour some honey into your shake or eat a couple oreo's

[SouthCaliDiva]

If your PWO shake has some sugar (eg a weight gainer) you should be ok... make it easy pour some honey into your shake or eat a couple oreo's
How the hell do you eat only a couple of Oreos? :D

That's like eating one Lay's or drinking only one Heineken.

Anyways, I picked up a handful of Kre-Alkalyn samples at the expo last week. About 30 caps. I'm going to start one cap (each one is 1.5g) per day post-workout. I'd be happy to give the female persepctive if anyone is curious.

A couple Oreos! BWAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!

[b18c1]

Yeah, I'm also thinking about picking up the SciFit Kre-Alk in pill form. Heard it gives some real nice gains, and strength, and also no bloatiness which I like.

Which one do you recommend: Endur-02 Plus Kre-Alkalyn or the Regular Kre-Alkalyn 1500?

[Derek6621]

Anyone know anythign about this "ELITE-K" brand of Kre?

[saiyanAE]

sci fit kre-alk is awesome. Great results, love that you don't have to use a ton of water to mix it like regular mono.

[Bammy]

Anyone know anythign about this "ELITE-K" brand of Kre?

bump, good price, anyone know?

[b18c1]

Yeah, the SciFit Kre-Alk seems to be doing nicely. Last week I did Mon-Fri 1.5grams, this week I upped it to 3grams daily Mon-Fri also, and I'm going to keep it at 3 grams. I have heard nothing but great things about this SciFit Kre-Alkalyn, and I'm loving the fact that it has no sides. Seems to give me energy, and some nice strength, still a little too early to tell. I will keep you guys updated.

[Jaskom]

Kre-Alk rocks! I've had good strength increases in the gym, and NO SIDES! I had to give up on powdered creatine because of GI issues. With Sci-Fit, I've had no problems.

[Redmeat]

I like the sci-fit kre. Good price and good results. Elite -k is a rip off...stay far away! They are a lil company who uses the exact Kre that sci -fit uses right down to the pill and pat # on the pills. The difference is their goons at the Arnold knocking everybodys else's Kre even Sci-fits by saying that the elite-ks kre was the best on the market and the others were bad creatine. They use the same pills as i stated before that sci-fit uses ...check them out if you need to.Same Pat #'s on both pills size Mg all are the same. Elite wants you to take 7 pills a day(workout) Sci fit wants you to use i think no more than 4 -2 before 2 after training.I paid $38.00 for 240 sci-fits.. Elite -k are something like 45.00 for 160 or so i dont remember but they are overdosing and over pricing for the same exact product.

[djack]

im on kre right now....i dont take it on a daily basis though....just because thier is not enough long term evidence that creatine is 100% safe. (Better safe than sorry). Also, when your on kre, exactly how much water are you supposed to drink, 2 liters, 3 liters a day?

[Apophis]

I love it, small dosage, large results, i dont have to take 20 grams of a powder a day that does NOT dissolve, and i will tell you this NO matter who the **** sells creatine monohydrate be it micorsized or what ever gimmic they use, when you put five grams in a liter of water and you STILL have "sand" in the bottom **** all that. AST. METRX, GNC, MAX MUSCLE,,, all of tho so called "microtizeed creatines sheeet, all nothing but sand in the bottom of da glass, with Kre alky no sand smaller dose and BIG results.
two pills before training one pill after training and for ****s and grins one pill after anabolic areobics.

[Apophis]

DJACK as far as the amount of water to take, drink until you pis clear then drink a liter every 2 hours and a protien shake counts as liter of water, on the real U cant drink too much water, "water in water out" granted there are cases of over dosing on water, but those that go to that level are not body building. to go to that level you would have to drink 3 gallons a day and NOT eat anything peroid.

[PowerSwede]

I love it, small dosage, large results, i dont have to take 20 grams of a powder a day that does NOT dissolve, and i will tell you this NO matter who the **** sells creatine monohydrate be it micorsized or what ever gimmic they use, when you put five grams in a liter of water and you STILL have "sand" in the bottom **** all that. AST. METRX, GNC, MAX MUSCLE,,, all of tho so called "microtizeed creatines sheeet, all nothing but sand in the bottom of da glass, with Kre alky no sand smaller dose and BIG results.
two pills before training one pill after training and for ****s and grins one pill after anabolic areobics.

by putting 5g in my pwo shake and shake it i have no problems drinking creatine mono with my whey/dex, i don't even notice it.

And the truth is, my creatine stores are as full as your for $5 every 3.5 months.

[PowerSwede]

DJACK as far as the amount of water to take, drink until you pis clear then drink a liter every 2 hours and a protien shake counts as liter of water, on the real U cant drink too much water, "water in water out" granted there are cases of over dosing on water, but those that go to that level are not body building. to go to that level you would have to drink 3 gallons a day and NOT eat anything peroid.

WHOA there, 1 liter every two hours is 8 liters a day if you are awake 16 hours/day, there is no need for that much.

What you do when you drink that much is to dilute your electrolytes, that isn't healthy and it isn't beneficial.

One electrolyte is particularily diluted with high water intake, sodium, now since the creatine transporter is known as "sodium and cloride transporter 1" you can see why it's a bad idea to drink too much water.

"a shake counts as a liter of water"? In what world?

[supp diez]

im lookin forward to tryin the kre alk but alot u seem to prefer the caps over the powder is thier a reason for that or jus becuz it is easier to take in cap form

[b18c1]

^^ Many just prefer the cap because it is easier to take, and primarily I'd guess because of the taste.

[81Ort]

is 15 too young to be taking this supplement?
The only reason I would say you are too young is because you need to develop your mind first and not be dependant on supplements etc. The only way to develop your mind is through time and experience that's why usually the older one gets the wiser he/she becomes (older guys you all know, and I hope to reach that level of experience someday).
Too many guys are so focused on their supplements that they forget to just train hard, focus their thoughts on training as well as focusing on supplying their bodies with the raw materials for growth (food) instead of worrying about what they are using.

[Hervin]

Im currently taking SciFit's Kre-Alkalyn 1500 caps and I am more than impressed. I felt and saw results immediately! And I dont get the runs either. I just recently stacked it with AdEnergy Stack and R-ALA and the results skyrocketed. WIth the addition of the R-ALA, my muscles maintain that "tight/pumped" feel hours after I worked out. All I can say is that I worked out 12pm and at 5, my muscles still felt hard.

My question is do you need to cycle on and off of Kre-Alkalyne since it is supposed to be 100% safe as compared to old skool Creatine? If anyone knows, let me know.

[b18c1]

Im currently taking SciFit's Kre-Alkalyn 1500 caps and I am more than impressed. I felt and saw results immediately! And I dont get the runs either. I just recently stacked it with AdEnergy Stack and R-ALA and the results skyrocketed. WIth the addition of the R-ALA, my muscles maintain that "tight/pumped" feel hours after I worked out. All I can say is that I worked out 12pm and at 5, my muscles still felt hard.

My question is do you need to cycle on and off of Kre-Alkalyne since it is supposed to be 100% safe as compared to old skool Creatine? If anyone knows, let me know.

Yes, I would also like to know if we have to cycle off? I'm on 3g daily, and then once I'm on 3 grams for a while I'll probably bump it up to 6g. After that then I'll probably stop for a bit, and start at 3g again. What do you think?

How many grams you take daily Hervin?

[saderpride]

results are going to be exactly the same as crm, because all it is is crm buffered, which means that (according to the kre_alk maker, NOT SCIENCE) it is absorbed at a more efficient rate than crm.....IF this is true, the only difference is you need to take less of kre-alk.....but, it doesnt claim to make you any stronger than crm...thats all it is, plus buffering..buffering wont make you stronger....

[b18c1]

results are going to be exactly the same as crm, because all it is is crm buffered, which means that (according to the kre_alk maker, NOT SCIENCE) it is absorbed at a more efficient rate than crm.....IF this is true, the only difference is you need to take less of kre-alk.....but, it doesnt claim to make you any stronger than crm...thats all it is, plus buffering..buffering wont make you stronger....

Yeah, but hearing from the results people are getting with Kre-Alk, I picked Kre-Alk. Probably give you same gains, but of course you take less, and there are no sides, which I love, and is very important to me when buying a supplement.

Mostly all suplements have sides, some more drastic than others. I totally did not want any water weight or bloat at all. I just wanted to pack on muscle with no sides, reason why I went with the kre-Alk, and it seems to be working pretty good.

So then again it really is a matter of preference. But I'd rather just put on muscle without looking bloated kind of "fake". Thanks. Plus without the bloat while on Kre-Alk you'd probably look better toned since there is no bloat or water weight. Thanks.

[rtkawano]

Anyone know anythign about this "ELITE-K" brand of Kre?

I've been using Elite-K for a couple of weeks and it's really worked well for me, much better than CEE (BSN Cell Mass). As directed, I only take it on lifting days...no side effects, no bloating, yes better recovery and strength.

[PowerSwede]

Yeah, but hearing from the results people are getting with Kre-Alk, I picked Kre-Alk. Probably give you same gains, but of course you take less, and there are no sides, which I love, and is very important to me when buying a supplement.

Mostly all suplements have sides, some more drastic than others. I totally did not want any water weight or bloat at all. I just wanted to pack on muscle with no sides, reason why I went with the kre-Alk, and it seems to be working pretty good.

So then again it really is a matter of preference. But I'd rather just put on muscle without looking bloated kind of "fake". Thanks. Plus without the bloat while on Kre-Alk you'd probably look better toned since there is no bloat or water weight. Thanks.

Let's get one thing straight here, creatine is stored in your muscles, the creatine from Kre-Alk stored in your muscles is exactly the same creatine stored if you ingest CrM, creatine hydrates your muscles causing a cell volumizing effect, this is the same effect you get from ANY form of creatine, if you get less water in your muscles from Kre-Alk, you got less creatine in your muscles.

Creatine is creatine is creatine, it's not going to matter if you get it from CrM, Kre-Alk, CEE, creatine pyruvate or whatever, if it works it will be stored in your muscles where the creatine from ALL forms of creatine is the same.

And regarding what people say about new forms of creatine and their effects, remember that 75% of all users of creatine serum were happy with it and it didn't even contain any creatine.

[KYMuscleHead]

There is a good article about Kre-Alkalyn in the current (June 05) issue of Iron Man magazine. The creator of this technology, Jeff Golini (a former bodybuilder) claims that his buffering process makes the creatine 100% stable in liquid and the body is able to absorb 100% of the product. He also claims that there is no need for loading or cycling. Very interesting article. I plan to try it soon.

[PowerSwede]

There is a good article about Kre-Alkalyn in the current (June 05) issue of Iron Man magazine. The creator of this technology, Jeff Golini (a former bodybuilder) claims that his buffering process makes the creatine 100% stable in liquid and the body is able to absorb 100% of the product. He also claims that there is no need for loading or cycling. Very interesting article. I plan to try it soon.

There is no need to load or cycle ANY form of creatine.

He also claims that creatine monohydrate will convert into creatinine completely within 1-8 minutes after mixing with water and that creatinine is toxic.

IOW, the guy is FOS and loves to make up claims that have no scientific backing.

I think i'll try 1lb a day, since my body will absorb 100% of that i'll gain 1lb a day. :D

[b18c1]

Yes, Swede. I know that Creatine is all the same, it is gong to do the same thing. Reason I went with Kre-Alk like I said is that I heard it was a good Creatine product and was working well for others in regards of strength, and mass gains. Again I don't like taking supplements that pose side effects that I don't like, and regular CM has given many people bloat, and water weight. This is what I didn't want, because my bf% is not low so I didn't want it to make me look bigger/bloated. Get me?

[PowerSwede]

Yes, Swede. I know that Creatine is all the same, it is gong to do the same thing. Reason I went with Kre-Alk like I said is that I heard it was a good Creatine product and was working well for others in regards of strength, and mass gains. Again I don't like taking supplements that pose side effects that I don't like, and regular CM has given many people bloat, and water weight. This is what I didn't want, because my bf% is not low so I didn't want it to make me look bigger/bloated. Get me?

I get you and you do as you wish, i'm only interested in how this would work with people who experience bloat on monohydrate but not on Kre-Alk since i personally have never noticed any bloat from any form of creatine i have tried.

That creatine makes your muscles carry more water is nothing that's specific to monohydrate, it's specific to creatine so if the creatine form you are using is working it will do that. What it won't do is store water in other places since it is not stored there, if creatine monohydrate was somehow stored subcutaneously but Kre-Alk wasn't there would be a difference, but there isn't.

Can somone, anyone please refer me to a study that shows that creatine monohydrate increases water retention in other places than your muscles? Or perhaps give an explanation why creatine monohydrate would but not Kre-Alk.

[magicdad]

Don't know if this is a dead thread or not, but if someone is still available to answer this...

I am also thinking of trying the Sci Fit kre-alkalyn. However, I don't see any information on whether you take the capsules on an empty stomach or not. Does anyone with kre-alk experience know?

[Bane]

Kre-Alk creatine is good creatine and produces nice results at about 1g-2g a day.

It is absorbed better than CEE but doesn’t enter the sell as easily as CEE. CEE is absorbed about 50% better than regular Creatine (which isn’t that good) but enters the cell way easier than regular Creatine.


Scuse me chuck but do you have any studies/measures to back up these claims?

[PickItUp]

If you stop and think about it...all the marketing surrounding Kre-Alkalyn suggests that the pill form is superior.

One of the arguments to using Kre-Alkalyn is that it is more stable thanany other form because of how creatine is bonded to a base. This base keeps the creatine stable as it passes through the digestive tract and into the cells.

Liquid (as the marketing suggests) immediately begins to reduce creatine effectiveness. So why then would you mix creatine in a liquid? Obviously, the stomach acids are liquid...but that is what the base buffer is for...to maintain stability.

I am sure that the difference between taking the pill and the powder is minimal...but optimally speaking...the pill will be better for you.

The pill instructions also state that you should take it on an empty stomach. this is important because without food, the kre-alkalyn will get digested much faster with little threat of sitting in stomach acid for too long.

Overall, it does not matter that much if you take the pill form or the powder form...but realize that by mixing the powder with water...you are starting the process of kre-alkalyn deterioration sooner than with the pill. This approach seems a little contradictory to the marketing...

[magicdad]

That makes sense. Good post. Thanks, pickitup.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

well u know, a while back twinlab made creatine mono pills and me and my friends swore they worked better than creatine powder and we were only taking 3g a day (this was like in 1999).

I dont know why you would mix krealk with water and let it sit over say 30 seconds before drinking it.

[Skigazzi]

One of the arguments to using Kre-Alkalyn is that it is more stable thanany other form because of how creatine is bonded to a base. This base keeps the creatine stable as it passes through the digestive tract and into the cells.


There is no "bond", its just a physical mixture, but it does seem to work, Im not finding it to be upsetting to my digestive tract, which is an issue I get from creatines.

Also, regarding the statement someone made earlier about the 'buffer' not producing any addtional results, there is a study (which I read today and CANNOT find now :mad: ) showing gains in maximum output by athletes through taking buffers.

[Bane]

Free tip on how to turn your creatine into kre-alkalyn:mix your good old mono with sodium bicarbonate a.k.a. baking soda

[Spud]

Free tip on how to turn your creatine into kre-alkalyn:mix your good old mono with sodium bicarbonate a.k.a. baking soda

I know this is a very old thread, but I feel its better to post in here than take up more board space. Anyway, is this statement true? If so, how much BS per gram of CM? Though I find this hard to believe, cause if it was that easy why even sell Kre-Alkalyn? Insites?

[CHUCK DIESEL]

Also, regarding the statement someone made earlier about the 'buffer' not producing any addtional results, there is a study (which I read today and CANNOT find now :mad: ) showing gains in maximum output by athletes through taking buffers.

Thats basically because it lowers the ph of the blood back to "normal" range.

[5Six]

Some information 'bout Kre-Alkalyn creatine:

http://www.kre-alkalyn.net/

And some review logs of a kre-alk product, PURPLE-K

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=997510

[CHUCK DIESEL]

Scuse me chuck but do you have any studies/measures to back up these claims?

nope sorry, i can look at the kre-alkalyn mixture and the make up of CEE and tell you kre-alk is absorbed better but doesnt enter the cell as easy as CEE. I dont need to do a study. Thats not a "claim" thats my opion and my input on how they both are absorbed by the body and into the muscle.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

I know this is a very old thread, but I feel its better to post in here than take up more board space. Anyway, is this statement true? If so, how much BS per gram of CM? Though I find this hard to believe, cause if it was that easy why even sell Kre-Alkalyn? Insites?

thats not true, its been talked about before. Basically baking soda doesnt have a high enough ph to mix with kre-alk and raise the ph as high as a kre-alk mixture. Kre-alkalyn is a mixture of creatine, soda ash and other ph ingredients but its more of an invention than a chemical discovery. I mean its like saying you can just mix flour, milk, eggs, sugar, butter, chocolate chips and vanilla and get chips ahoy or Mrs. Fields cookies.

[jrich27]

just boght kre-alk capsules hoping for som good size increase

[AminoAmigo]

A friend of mine uses krealkalyn for a few weeks and he?s doing well. I think i will try it too.

but to be honest, it?s so much more expensive than normal creatine ... is it worth so much more?

Here in germany you can?t get krealkalyn under 50 bucks, because it?s imported :(((

[Random907]

A friend of mine uses krealkalyn for a few weeks and he?s doing well. I think i will try it too.

but to be honest, it?s so much more expensive than normal creatine ... is it worth so much more?

Here in germany you can?t get krealkalyn under 50 bucks, because it?s imported :(((
If you look at the bb.com super store, you will realize that kre-alkalyn is actually cheaper(or the same price) as mono creatine.

[jrich27]

i bought mine at vitamin shoppe $20 120 capsules. take 2-4 per day

[Stomp]

I get you and you do as you wish, i'm only interested in how this would work with people who experience bloat on monohydrate but not on Kre-Alk since i personally have never noticed any bloat from any form of creatine i have tried.

That creatine makes your muscles carry more water is nothing that's specific to monohydrate, it's specific to creatine so if the creatine form you are using is working it will do that. What it won't do is store water in other places since it is not stored there, if creatine monohydrate was somehow stored subcutaneously but Kre-Alk wasn't there would be a difference, but there isn't.

Can somone, anyone please refer me to a study that shows that creatine monohydrate increases water retention in other places than your muscles? Or perhaps give an explanation why creatine monohydrate would but not Kre-Alk.


Well, for some strange reason my face gets very bloated when I use creatine mono. I have a round face to begin with (even with low body fat) and using regular creatine makes it look like a football. I haven`t noticed this with other types creatines but it is good reason for me to avoid creatine monohydrate.

[b18c1]

Well, for some strange reason my face gets very bloated when I use creatine mono. I have a round face to begin with (even with low body fat) and using regular creatine makes it look like a football. I haven`t noticed this with other types creatines but it is good reason for me to avoid creatine monohydrate.

I've never taken creatine mono, but I have noticed that in 2 of my friends that had taken it.....hrmm, hrmm, dat dere Cell Tech, lol. I've now steered them toward's CEE or Kre-Alk. It made them look fuller/bloated while their face was getting a little bloated too. Good if your really skinny.