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smartini
07-26-2007, 09:33 AM
i forgot how to take ephedra is it 30min prior to your meals? it's been a while since i have used it
terracotta
07-26-2007, 09:34 AM
You can take it with food if you like, it doesn't matter. My EC stack guide is here www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm
smartini
07-26-2007, 10:10 AM
thanks....who did your website?
terracotta
07-26-2007, 10:23 AM
thanks....who did your website?
You're welcome. I designed it myself with the help of my husband.
smartini
07-26-2007, 10:28 AM
is it hard to do? i am trying to do one also
terracotta
07-26-2007, 10:43 AM
is it hard to do? i am trying to do one also
I used macromedia dreamweaver. It's very helpful.
smartini
07-26-2007, 11:07 AM
is that a program you purchased?
terracotta
07-26-2007, 11:47 AM
is that a program you purchased?
Yeah.
bettyrider
07-28-2007, 03:50 PM
On your website you mention taking the stack 3 times a day at the peak of your cycle.
I currently take 1 and half E tabs (25mg) with a caffiene tab (200mg) twice a day - the first dose around 8 or 9 a.m. and then the next sometime before 3 p.m. I don't wish to take any after 3 to ensure I get a good nights rest.
Is that too heavy of a dose? I think for most it would be alot of E at one time, however, I used to take alot of adderall so my body handles it well.
Thus far I have not experienced an acceleration in fat loss and I am wondering if it has something to do with how I am taking it.
nicoledominique
07-31-2007, 09:48 AM
Is ephedrine effective without stacking? I am currently taking it, but have hesitated to use any sort of stack - I am not the biggest advocate for caffeine. If I do not stack, is it acceptable to up my dosage of ephedrine?
Thuirwyne
07-31-2007, 10:09 AM
To my knowledge, for optimal results, the stack should be maintained. I found this info on mesorx.
"Some research has shown that the anti obesity effects of ephedrine are not significant unless caffeine is used in conjunction with ephedrine.17 In fact, most studies exploring the thermogenic effects of ephedrine also look at caffeine as a synergist. In a randomized, placebo-controlled, double blind study, 180 obese patients were treated by a calorie restricted diet and either an ephedrine/caffeine combination (20mg/200mg), ephedrine (20 mg), caffeine (200 mg) or placebo three times a day for 24 weeks. Average weight loss was significantly greater with the combination than with placebo from week 8 to week 24. Weight loss in both the ephedrine only and the caffeine only groups was similar to that of the placebo group. The authors conclude that the effect of either caffeine or ephedrine alone is ineffective in inducing significant weight loss.18,19 Not only is it necessary to combine ephedrine and caffeine to elicit a significant fat burning effect, the two compounds exhibit synergistic effects in certain ratios. By comparing different ratios of ephedrine and caffeine, it was found that 20 mg of ephedrine and 200 mg of caffeine exhibited a supra additive or synergistic effect while no other ratio did.20 This means that ephedrine and caffeine taken in a 1:10 ratio (20 mg ephedrine : 200 mg caffeine) creates effects greater than the sum of the two drugs added together. In other words, 2 + 2 = 5 in this ratio!"
I wouldn't suggest dosing more than 25mgX3 daily.
nicoledominique
07-31-2007, 10:24 AM
To my knowledge, for optimal results, the stack should be maintained. I found this info on mesorx.
"Some research has shown that the anti obesity effects of ephedrine are not significant unless caffeine is used in conjunction with ephedrine.17 In fact, most studies exploring the thermogenic effects of ephedrine also look at caffeine as a synergist. In a randomized, placebo-controlled, double blind study, 180 obese patients were treated by a calorie restricted diet and either an ephedrine/caffeine combination (20mg/200mg), ephedrine (20 mg), caffeine (200 mg) or placebo three times a day for 24 weeks. Average weight loss was significantly greater with the combination than with placebo from week 8 to week 24. Weight loss in both the ephedrine only and the caffeine only groups was similar to that of the placebo group. The authors conclude that the effect of either caffeine or ephedrine alone is ineffective in inducing significant weight loss.18,19 Not only is it necessary to combine ephedrine and caffeine to elicit a significant fat burning effect, the two compounds exhibit synergistic effects in certain ratios. By comparing different ratios of ephedrine and caffeine, it was found that 20 mg of ephedrine and 200 mg of caffeine exhibited a supra additive or synergistic effect while no other ratio did.20 This means that ephedrine and caffeine taken in a 1:10 ratio (20 mg ephedrine : 200 mg caffeine) creates effects greater than the sum of the two drugs added together. In other words, 2 + 2 = 5 in this ratio!"
I wouldn't suggest dosing more than 25mgX3 daily. Interesting...thanks for that! :)
terracotta
08-06-2007, 03:43 PM
yep, don't exceed 25 mg doses of the ephedrine.
It is not very useful without the caffeine. If you would like a caffeine free fat burner, look up controlled labs red acid.