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Captain Gwen
07-25-2007, 08:03 AM
Currently I have about a total of 1 cup a day of dairy products-mostly from cottage cheese, greek yogurt and very small amounts of cheese.

Most people have preached against dairy while prepping for competition, others say they don't see anything wrong with it.

Just wondering what everyone else thinks about it pre competition and why.

GermanBarbarian
07-25-2007, 08:29 AM
I think the problem that a lot of people have with milk is that it can cause bloating. Otherwise it has a very good usable protein ratio, if you get grass fed milk it will have a better balance of Omega 3/Omega 6 ratio, If mixed with egg yolks it will have a great fatty acid profile, supplying all the known essential fatty acids. If unpastuerized it is a good source of all the B vitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin A (Retinol not carotenes), Vitamin D. Once again if unpastuerized it has a perfect ratio of phosphorus to calcium (reduce broken bones) and is a great source of utilizable calcium to fuel muscle contractions. Studies using chocolate milk vs. gatorade have shown that milk is more effective for enduranced sporting events. I mean if it's good enough to fuel the greatest growth period of our young lives you think it would be enough for us now. Anyways if you can't get raw milk products than yes cottage cheese and yogurt are easier to digest and cause less bloating because there is less lactic acid and more lactose (from bacteria).

I personally love milk and drink two gallons a day

yzrider400f
07-25-2007, 08:47 AM
I personally love milk and drink two gallons a day

that is absolutely disgusting, i cringe at the thought

The only dairy I have is a slice of cheese on my 90% lean burgers, I am a firm believer in a non milk diet, and relatively low in dairy


BTW- if you're drinking pasteurized milk, a lot of the good vitamins and minerals are broken down and become rather useless to the body during the pasteurization process. Also, they test to see if milk has been properly pasteurized by testing for the presence of phosphates; if there are none, then it has been properly pasteurized. Problem with this is phosphates are essential in the absorption of calcium

VenomXL
07-25-2007, 08:52 AM
Here's how it will go:

I'll say yes cut it out because there is no reason to risk the water retention

Then someone will come in and say " OMG NO WAY IM NOT GIVING UP MY CC!"

and i'll say is CC really worth the risk of screwing up all your hard work on the one day that it really counts"

They'll say " i don't see any thing wrong with it, i don't hold water, blah blah blah"

I'll say have you tried going without dairy to see if theres a difference"

They'll say no but i gotta have my CC, milk, yogurt (artificial sweetners etc.. etc..)

Then about a week later you will see a post where they say, Missed my peak what went wrong i looked so smooth on stage!

/end

now was it the dairy that caused it? I can't say. But if they had cut it out and still came in smooth then you would have a better idea of what caused it. Your best bet is to eliminate as many variables as possible and give your body its best chance at coming in dry and conditioned.

Personally im lactose intollerent so dairy and i don't get along.

Captain Gwen
07-25-2007, 09:27 AM
Here's how it will go:

I'll say yes cut it out because there is no reason to risk the water retention

Then someone will come in and say " OMG NO WAY IM NOT GIVING UP MY CC!"

and i'll say is CC really worth the risk of screwing up all your hard work on the one day that it really counts"

They'll say " i don't see any thing wrong with it, i don't hold water, blah blah blah"

I'll say have you tried going without dairy to see if theres a difference"

They'll say no but i gotta have my CC, milk, yogurt (artificial sweetners etc.. etc..)

Then about a week later you will see a post where they say, Missed my peak what went wrong i looked so smooth on stage!

/end

now was it the dairy that caused it? I can't say. But if they had cut it out and still came in smooth then you would have a better idea of what caused it. Your best bet is to eliminate as many variables as possible and give your body its best chance at coming in dry and conditioned.

Personally im lactose intollerent so dairy and i don't get along.



k, so then my question to you would be-how far out would you suggest giving up the dairy?

VenomXL
07-25-2007, 09:45 AM
k, so then my question to you would be-how far out would you suggest giving up the dairy?

a week out atleast, two IMO would be better.

Captain Gwen
07-25-2007, 10:14 AM
a week out atleast, two IMO would be better.


Thank you sir!