The Cut Diet- Post all questions and comments here (Volume 4 is Now Available!)

[lambpasty]

Thanks for the info man.

I need to find something to replace the innards of that wrapped chicken now lol.
You could fat free cheese and olive oil, it is a bit salty though so just be wary of that.

[lambpasty]

I have one question about the cut diet regarding grapefruit; is there any significant difference between white grapefruit vs. red grapefruit? I'm curious about the narginin content as well as the sugar content, it just hit me today while I was at the supermarket. Any help would be great.

[MitchB]

Hey guys. I started the cut diet 2500 yesterday and I have a couple questions.

I'm a senior in high school, so my meal times are kind of weird. What do you guys think about this schedule:

On normal days: 6AM, 8:25AM, 10:45AM, 1:05PM, 4:00PM, lift from 6-7:45 (with cardio), Meal 6 is around 8:30PM and then bed around 10

On wednesday: 6AM, 8:15AM, 10:15AM, 12:15PM, 3:30PM, lift from 5:30-7:15, meal 6 around 8PM, then bed around 10

Is that afternoon too spread out? Last meal until bed and finish lifting until meal 6? or am I just over thinking

Also, If I take 1g Fish Oil pills, do I need 15 to equal my fat for that meal? That just seems like a lot.

But other then that, this diet is kick ass. Day 1 went great, and I'll be looking forward to participate in this thread.

Thanks,
Mitch

[benji30]

"anytime a b*tch turns me down, i just laugh at her stupidity then flex in the mirror later in the night." - Money Shot
nice qoute.....i am trying to cut a little body fat off...i have been doing that and lately i have still been staying the same weight wich is awesome......means my muscle mass is increasing......my cut diet includes bud light and lots of sex.....

[lambpasty]

Also, If I take 1g Fish Oil pills, do I need 15 to equal my fat for that meal? That just seems like a lot.

But other then that, this diet is kick ass. Day 1 went great, and I'll be looking forward to participate in this thread.

Thanks,
Mitch
I wouldn't take that much fish oil IMO, too much EPA/DHA can be detrimental; if your body's inflammatory response is hindered too much it can/will hinder muscle growth. I'd just use olive oil or almonds or something similar.

[Lando33]

I have one question about the cut diet regarding grapefruit; is there any significant difference between white grapefruit vs. red grapefruit? I'm curious about the narginin content as well as the sugar content, it just hit me today while I was at the supermarket. Any help would be great.

There are some differences between red and white. In calories there is about 15 less cals in white than red. Fat and carbs are about the same. The real differences are as follows:

Red Grapefruits contain higher levels of lycopene, which fight oxygen free radicals (which have been shown to damage cells). Red Grapefruits also have slightly higher levels of antioxidents.

I'd opt for Pink or Red, given the choice!


Hey guys. I started the cut diet 2500 yesterday and I have a couple questions.

I'm a senior in high school, so my meal times are kind of weird. What do you guys think about this schedule:

On normal days: 6AM, 8:25AM, 10:45AM, 1:05PM, 4:00PM, lift from 6-7:45 (with cardio), Meal 6 is around 8:30PM and then bed around 10

On wednesday: 6AM, 8:15AM, 10:15AM, 12:15PM, 3:30PM, lift from 5:30-7:15, meal 6 around 8PM, then bed around 10

Is that afternoon too spread out? Last meal until bed and finish lifting until meal 6? or am I just over thinking


Yes you are over-thinking. This schedule is just fine.



Also, If I take 1g Fish Oil pills, do I need 15 to equal my fat for that meal? That just seems like a lot.

Fish oil pills should be taken as directed on the bottle and not used as a source of fat with your meals and not counted towards your fat intake per meal or total fat intake for the day.


Your fat sources should come from the fat sources listed in the book!



i have been doing that and lately i have still been staying the same weight wich is awesome......means my muscle mass is increasing

congrats...that us truly the best of both worlds.

[MitchB]

Okay, thats what I thought, just wanted to make sure. :)

One more quick question. Say hypothetically, I start a meal at 9:00 and finish at 9:30.. should I start the next meal at 11 or 11:30?

[jaim91]

Okay, thats what I thought, just wanted to make sure. :)

One more quick question. Say hypothetically, I start a meal at 9:00 and finish at 9:30.. should I start the next meal at 11 or 11:30?

I'd say 11:30 or 12.

[lambpasty]

There are some differences between red and white. In calories there is about 15 less cals in white than red. Fat and carbs are about the same. The real differences are as follows:

Red Grapefruits contain higher levels of lycopene, which fight oxygen free radicals (which have been shown to damage cells). Red Grapefruits also have slightly higher levels of antioxidents.

I'd opt for Pink or Red, given the choice!

Thanks for the help, just bought a crate of red grapefruit :)

[Hit_It_Hard]

I posted this over in the "loosing fat" section but on the reccomendation of another member ill post it over here. Im going to start the cut diet here the 2nd week in March. Im planning on running an E/C stack as well as Xtend. My question is what sort of weight loss should i shoot for per week, since im running the E/c Stack in addition with the diet. Should i still shoot for the standard 2 pounds or no. also, the other member mentioned that scale weight loss wont be significant with this diet because you will still be able to build muscle. Just wanted to clear some things up before i start, thanks for any help in advanced!!

[RUBICON19]

I posted this over in the "loosing fat" section but on the reccomendation of another member ill post it over here. Im going to start the cut diet here the 2nd week in March. Im planning on running an E/C stack as well as Xtend. My question is what sort of weight loss should i shoot for per week, since im running the E/c Stack in addition with the diet. Should i still shoot for the standard 2 pounds or no. also, the other member mentioned that scale weight loss wont be significant with this diet because you will still be able to build muscle. Just wanted to clear some things up before i start, thanks for any help in advanced!!

Depends on how much time you have and how much fat you must lose to get there, but I would still go with the 2 LBs per week.

At first the scale may not move much, but you will noticably lean out. After about 4 weeks is when the scale starts moving more regularly.

[Yantzen]

I am 4 weeks and 4 days out from my first comp. And I have been following the cut diet throughout my 18 week prep, with some good results.

I have some questions on the last week approach.

1) Can I do HIIT in any of the last 7 days out?

2) Do I carry on taking vasocharge and dialene4 till the day of the comp? It has caffeine in them right? Do I account for that? Especially since last week protocols require 100g caffeine 3 times per day. Or is this caffeine separate?

3) 2 days out and 1 day out calls for 0.5gallons of water only throughout. Can I use Xtend instead of water for this? I am quite the Xtend junkie.

4) I have been using almonds as my primary fat source. Almond butter is very difficult to find in my country. Is it ok to use only almonds as my fat source for the final week?

[Hit_It_Hard]

Aight cool, i got about 25 or so to drop maybe a little less, and im just lookin to get cut for summer so time really isnt a huge issue for me. Do you have any reccomendations on any good fat sources other than nuts, I am alergic to all nuts and penut butter lol so the guidlines in the diet are kinda hard for me to follow when it comes to that part

[RUBICON19]

Aight cool, i got about 25 or so to drop maybe a little less, and im just lookin to get cut for summer so time really isnt a huge issue for me. Do you have any reccomendations on any good fat sources other than nuts, I am alergic to all nuts and penut butter lol so the guidlines in the diet are kinda hard for me to follow when it comes to that part

No prob.

Olive oil
Udos oil (Best)
Flax oil

[Hit_It_Hard]

Perfect, Thanks for all your help man. Wish all supplement companys/reps would be so helpful and prompt

[RUBICON19]

Perfect, Thanks for all your help man. Wish all supplement companys/reps would be so helpful and prompt


You will find that everyone here goes the extra mile to help another!!

Any other questions. Feel free!

[Lando33]

At first the scale may not move much, but you will noticably lean out. After about 4 weeks is when the scale starts moving more regularly.

given that you start at the correct calorie level plan.

[JonMorgan07]

Im planning my first comp. at the NPC Max Muscle Naturals in the teen division and the cut diet has taken so much guess work out and i have been seeing results day in and day out. thank you so much. oh and my carb load is tonight and im so excited. its been a long 3 days haha..

[Big_Pete1000]

I have been buying xtend for a while and have tried all the flavors and love them all. I use scivation whey and really all around love your products. When I got my order today of xtend I bought the vasocharge that came along with it in that little stack on bb.com I have never tried vasocharge and it came at a good price and i like all other products. So anyway I got it and its a huge chunk. Is this what its supposed to be like? I took a knife to it to try and chop some up. The xtend with it is perfectly fine as always. I am on the cut diet and love it so I hope this is the right place for this post since I have been posting all my questions about the diet here. I didn't want to post this under supps cuz all the fan boys will start to bash.

[RUBICON19]

I have been buying xtend for a while and have tried all the flavors and love them all. I use scivation whey and really all around love your products. When I got my order today of xtend I bought the vasocharge that came along with it in that little stack on bb.com I have never tried vasocharge and it came at a good price and i like all other products. So anyway I got it and its a huge chunk. Is this what its supposed to be like? I took a knife to it to try and chop some up. The xtend with it is perfectly fine as always. I am on the cut diet and love it so I hope this is the right place for this post since I have been posting all my questions about the diet here. I didn't want to post this under supps cuz all the fan boys will start to bash.


Its all good. Tends to clump from heat. Just chop it up nice with a knife and store in the fridge or freezer..

[Lando33]

I have been buying xtend for a while and have tried all the flavors and love them all. I use scivation whey and really all around love your products. When I got my order today of xtend I bought the vasocharge that came along with it in that little stack on bb.com I have never tried vasocharge and it came at a good price and i like all other products. So anyway I got it and its a huge chunk. Is this what its supposed to be like? I took a knife to it to try and chop some up. The xtend with it is perfectly fine as always. I am on the cut diet and love it so I hope this is the right place for this post since I have been posting all my questions about the diet here. I didn't want to post this under supps cuz all the fan boys will start to bash.

how about emailing the company?

[cjackway]

I have been buying xtend for a while and have tried all the flavors and love them all. I use scivation whey and really all around love your products. When I got my order today of xtend I bought the vasocharge that came along with it in that little stack on bb.com I have never tried vasocharge and it came at a good price and i like all other products. So anyway I got it and its a huge chunk. Is this what its supposed to be like? I took a knife to it to try and chop some up. The xtend with it is perfectly fine as always. I am on the cut diet and love it so I hope this is the right place for this post since I have been posting all my questions about the diet here. I didn't want to post this under supps cuz all the fan boys will start to bash.

Mine has been that way twice. I actually pack it into to scoop, forming a Vasocharge ball. I eat this way, kinda like a sour treat. I think i actually prefer it this way now.

[Big_Pete1000]

how about emailing the company?

Its all good. Looks like from the responses its a some what normal occurance. I will chop it up. No big deal. I just wanted to make sure it would not mess with the effectiveness of the product.

[Lando33]

Its all good. Looks like from the responses its a some what normal occurance. I will chop it up. No big deal. I just wanted to make sure it would not mess with the effectiveness of the product.


Okay, well just to let you know that we are here should you need anything from us.

Vasocharge tends to clump when exposed to moisture or humidity. As of late, we have tweaked the formula to improve upon this. I personally enjoy Vasocharge either way but even though your jug tends to clump, it doesn't change a thing about the taste or effeciveness of the product! :)

[dimasso69]

could i see a sample of what the cut diet actually is or would i have to buy the book, just so i could see what it's like i just wana know the diet that's used and if i think i want to do it im looking into buying the book

[lambpasty]

The diet it free, you can download the PDF through the link in the first post. You can download all of the scivation books for free at www.scivationbooks.com too :)



Derek I have one quick question for you; would fresh tuna steaks be an acceptable source of protein for the cut diet? As much as I do like tilapia, I like seared ahi tuna a lot more. As far as I can tell they're nutritionally very similar, the tuna would have a little bit more fat than tilapia but other than that.. I'm just curious if you might happen to know something about that I don't like an inherently high sodium content or something.

[MitchB]

Today is day 6 for me. Can't wait for the carb meal tonight :)

I've already seen progress in the mirror. This diet is amazing

[M@XLOL]

I am trying to determine what my caloric intake should be. I consider myself more of an ecto then anything else and am guessing my body fat is around 12-14%. I just want to ensure my math isn't flawed (bad subject for me).
174/1.3= 133.85 x 33 = 4416.92 calories a day?
Thanks guise I really appreciate the halp.

[getnfit2007]

Ok, so Im gonna start this diet in about two weeks, and have a few questions:

1. First, 45 mins. cardio, either Pre or post workout, can this be a split..Cardio in the am, and workout in the evening or vice versa?

2. I'm at 183 today, as I emailed my stats to Rob, what calorie intake shall I start at?

3. I would love to buy all the supps I need, but that's not gonna happen. I know I will continue to purchase Vaso, Xtend, will pick up the combo Dialene4 sesamin. If I could get one more supp. what would be the one I should get.

I want get most of groceries started before I start this diet, and need to know how much I need to get.

[vgalvan18]

Your converting lbs to kg wrong. Your supposed to divide by 2.2. I think your calculation should be more on the 2600 mark.

[M@XLOL]

Your converting lbs to kg wrong. Your supposed to divide by 2.2. I think your calculation should be more on the 2600 mark.

I thought that 2.2 was representing the bodyfat percentage of an individual.

[truwest562]

I can't wait to start this diet. I have all the food but I don't have xtend or vasocharge. I work out plus cardio about an hour after breakfast. Do I eat meal 1. Then have 1 scoop wpi pre lifting and 1 after I'm done with my cardio then wait about 45 min then eat meal 2. Those 2 xtra scoops would add 160 cals to my 1750 diet plan. Is this gonna harm my progress

[Yantzen]

I am 4 weeks and 4 days out from my first comp. And I have been following the cut diet throughout my 18 week prep, with some good results.

I have some questions on the last week approach.

1) Can I do HIIT in any of the last 7 days out?

2) Do I carry on taking vasocharge and dialene4 till the day of the comp? It has caffeine in them right? Do I account for that? Especially since last week protocols require 100g caffeine 3 times per day. Or is this caffeine separate?

3) 2 days out and 1 day out calls for 0.5gallons of water only throughout. Can I use Xtend instead of water for this? I am quite the Xtend junkie.

4) I have been using almonds as my primary fat source. Almond butter is very difficult to find in my country. Is it ok to use only almonds as my fat source for the final week?

bump for this question. Now 3weeks 5 days out

[Lando33]

Ok, so Im gonna start this diet in about two weeks, and have a few questions:

1. First, 45 mins. cardio, either Pre or post workout, can this be a split..Cardio in the am, and workout in the evening or vice versa?

2. I'm at 183 today, as I emailed my stats to Rob, what calorie intake shall I start at?

3. I would love to buy all the supps I need, but that's not gonna happen. I know I will continue to purchase Vaso, Xtend, will pick up the combo Dialene4 sesamin. If I could get one more supp. what would be the one I should get.

I want get most of groceries started before I start this diet, and need to know how much I need to get.

1. Yes it can be split, the bottom line is just get it done!

2. There is so much more than height that is necessary in order to accuretly answer this question - why don't you just ask Rob :)

3. Xtend, hands down.

[cjackway]

Ok, so Im gonna start this diet in about two weeks, and have a few questions:

1. First, 45 mins. cardio, either Pre or post workout, can this be a split..Cardio in the am, and workout in the evening or vice versa?

2. I'm at 183 today, as I emailed my stats to Rob, what calorie intake shall I start at?

3. I would love to buy all the supps I need, but that's not gonna happen. I know I will continue to purchase Vaso, Xtend, will pick up the combo Dialene4 sesamin. If I could get one more supp. what would be the one I should get.

I want get most of groceries started before I start this diet, and need to know how much I need to get.

For one more.....Essential FA packs the most benefit for the dollar. I've used Fish oil products for years, but none have given me the results that Essential FA has. My HDL cholesterol has improved, my skin tone is better, and no Fish oil burps! What more can you ask for?
C

[getnfit2007]

For one more.....Essential FA packs the most benefit for the dollar. I've used Fish oil products for years, but none have given me the results that Essential FA has. My HDL cholesterol has improved, my skin tone is better, and no Fish oil burps! What more can you ask for?
C

Will definitely look into them. I take fish oil now, but from what Im hearing, the EFA from Scivation, can not be beat. I have no doubt its the truth, everything else I have tried, read, or seen has been true.

[lblblb]

Just a quick question. My cals on the cut diet fall between 3600 and 3800. Im 265 at about 16%bf. I opted to go for the Cut diet 4000 b/c i tend to lose bf easily. My question falls on the side of overtraining. Im in the Army and 4 days a week im required to do Physical Training in the mornings. Mostly consisting of Running. Sprints and bw exercises on Mon, Wed, and Fri and 3-5 mile runs on Tues. Times vary btwn 45mins to 1hour. I work out at lunch which usually falls 5 hours later.

My question is should i do some LI cardio work after my workouts or is PT enough?

also is it okay to sip xtend during my pt sessions?

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[T3ZZA]

Hi, I'm planning on starting the cut diet tomorrow. I just have two questions:

1. Is it ok use whey for three of the meals?

2. Is it ok to double up on the orange for meal 1 and remove the broccoli?


Ideally I'd only like to use whey for 1-2 meals and I will if I have to, but if not it would be much more convenient for me to use whey every other meal

And thanks team scivation for such a detailed diet plan!

scott

[MitchB]

I have a meal question..

Since I'm in high school, my meals have to revolve around class times. My 4th meal falls in a class with my biggest dick teacher. He won't let me eat at all during class, and the 5 minutes between classes just isn't enough. What do you guys suggest I do? Eat half the meal in the 5 minutes? Or are there any ways to come up with a meal that is quick to eat? I already eat one meal that is a protein shake and green beans, so any suggestions? Thanks

[MitchB]

Hi, I'm planning on starting the cut diet tomorrow. I just have two questions:

1. Is it ok use whey for three of the meals?

2. Is it ok to double up on the orange for meal 1 and remove the broccoli?


Ideally I'd only like to use whey for 1-2 meals and I will if I have to, but if not it would be much more convenient for me to use whey every other meal

And thanks team scivation for such a detailed diet plan!

scott



Whole foods are way better then protein shakes. If you can sacrifice convenience for quality, go for the real food. Also, I don't think the oranges will work. You need your greens.. besides, oranges have lots of natural sugar in them.

I could be wrong, but thats what I'm thinking.. :)

[T3ZZA]

Whole foods are way better then protein shakes. If you can sacrifice convenience for quality, go for the real food. Also, I don't think the oranges will work. You need your greens.. besides, oranges have lots of natural sugar in them.

I could be wrong, but thats what I'm thinking.. :)

I know wholefood is more favourable, and I would like to only use whey for 2 meals but I just can't afford to buy that much meat in a week (I'm a student) so I was just wondering if it would affect the results by much? I'll be eating chicken and tuna for the other three meals as my source of protein.

I'm aware there is natural sugar in oranges, however the macros are still the same if I substitute the broccoli for orange, and it is only for meal 1. Orange is also on the list of carbohydrates I was just going to use orange in place of grapefruit as I can't stand it, and double it up to remove the broccoli.

scott

[lblblb]

I know wholefood is more favourable, and I would like to only use whey for 2 meals but I just can't afford to buy that much meat in a week (I'm a student) so I was just wondering if it would affect the results by much? I'll be eating chicken and tuna for the other three meals as my source of protein.

I'm aware there is natural sugar in oranges, however the macros are still the same if I substitute the broccoli for orange, and it is only for meal 1. Orange is also on the list of carbohydrates I was just going to use orange in place of grapefruit as I can't stand it, and double it up to remove the broccoli.

scott

I would look into some tuna or even the canned chicken is pretty cheap. depending on where you shop. you could also always use egg white, but good luck on you toilet and anyone that has to be around you.

[RUBICON19]

Hi, I'm planning on starting the cut diet tomorrow. I just have two questions:

1. Is it ok use whey for three of the meals?

2. Is it ok to double up on the orange for meal 1 and remove the broccoli?


Ideally I'd only like to use whey for 1-2 meals and I will if I have to, but if not it would be much more convenient for me to use whey every other meal

And thanks team scivation for such a detailed diet plan!

scott

1. Yes this is FINE!

2. I would say OK for the beggining of the diet. This also depends on where you are starting at, what your goals are, and how much time you have.

[RUBICON19]

I have a meal question..

Since I'm in high school, my meals have to revolve around class times. My 4th meal falls in a class with my biggest dick teacher. He won't let me eat at all during class, and the 5 minutes between classes just isn't enough. What do you guys suggest I do? Eat half the meal in the 5 minutes? Or are there any ways to come up with a meal that is quick to eat? I already eat one meal that is a protein shake and green beans, so any suggestions? Thanks

Use a shake for now until you can figure something out. You could also make the Scivation whey brownie and throw it in a ziplock in a cooler. Very quickly eaten

[RUBICON19]

I know wholefood is more favourable, and I would like to only use whey for 2 meals but I just can't afford to buy that much meat in a week (I'm a student) so I was just wondering if it would affect the results by much? I'll be eating chicken and tuna for the other three meals as my source of protein.

I'm aware there is natural sugar in oranges, however the macros are still the same if I substitute the broccoli for orange, and it is only for meal 1. Orange is also on the list of carbohydrates I was just going to use orange in place of grapefruit as I can't stand it, and double it up to remove the broccoli.

scott

Whole food meals are great and will probably do you better when it comes down to the nitty gritty, but up until that point whey shakes are more than fine. I do 3 a day, almost everyday, up until 4-6 weeks out. Some keep 3 shakes a day in even longer.

[M@XLOL]

I am trying to determine what my caloric intake should be. I consider myself more of an ecto then anything else and am guessing my body fat is around 12-14%. I just want to ensure my math isn't flawed (bad subject for me).
174/1.3= 133.85 x 33 = 4416.92 calories a day?
Thanks guise I really appreciate the halp.

bamp

[RUBICON19]

bamp

What are your goals?

I think 3500 would be more reasonable depending on above question.

[M@XLOL]

My goal is a recomp. I want to lose bodyfat while maintiaing the muscle I've acquired during my winter bulk and gain muscle if possible.

[RUBICON19]

My goal is a recomp. I want to lose bodyfat while maintiaing the muscle I've acquired during my winter bulk and gain muscle if possible.


So, no competitions, correct?

I think starting at 3500 is still a safe bet. If you lose weight too quickly you can always raise cals, and visa versa, lower them if needed.. You have no deadline so this gives you time to play with the cals..

[M@XLOL]

yes i didn't realize that is what you were asking... very naive of me. I just liked the science behind the diet/workout plan. thank you for the advice reps on recharge brah

[bballbrett5]

So let's say you make the no carb pancake w/ psyllium husk...would you then not eat the vegetables at that meal?

[RUBICON19]

So let's say you make the no carb pancake w/ psyllium husk...would you then not eat the vegetables at that meal?

Suppose you could, but I choose not to..

[RUBICON19]

yes i didn't realize that is what you were asking... very naive of me. I just liked the science behind the diet/workout plan. thank you for the advice reps on recharge brah

NP. I wasnt very clear..

[Lando33]

I have a meal question..

Since I'm in high school, my meals have to revolve around class times. My 4th meal falls in a class with my biggest dick teacher.

Sex Ed?

[T3ZZA]

1. Yes this is FINE!

2. I would say OK for the beggining of the diet. This also depends on where you are starting at, what your goals are, and how much time you have.


Whole food meals are great and will probably do you better when it comes down to the nitty gritty, but up until that point whey shakes are more than fine. I do 3 a day, almost everyday, up until 4-6 weeks out. Some keep 3 shakes a day in even longer.

ok thanks, I think I'll stick with the shakes in that case as I'm not preparing for competition I just want to the lose bodyfat.

scott

[ccchance22]

Hey y'all, I just started the cut diet(1200cals intake)...Now is there usually bloating in the 1st couple of wks?? My stomach has been extended for the past few days,lol but with all things considered I LOVE the diet/training program...

Thanks xoxo,Bri

[M@XLOL]

Hey y'all, I just started the cut diet(1200cals intake)...Now is there usually bloating in the 1st couple of wks?? My stomach has been extended for the past few days,lol but with all things considered I LOVE the diet/training program...

Thanks xoxo,Bri


The first two to three carbohydrate loads can be difficult to handle. First, the
amount of food is large and the stomach may have problems adjusting. This is normal.
Also, you may get light-headed, woozy, dizzy and tired after the meal and even the next
day. The day after this meal, you may experience gas, bloating and water retention the
first two to three carbohydrate loads. One way to help avoid this is to take your time
eating this meal. Make it last a minimum of 30 minutes and no longer than 45. Also, be
sure that you do not lie down to bed within 45-60 minutes of the last bite.
its normal don't worry :D

[Scivation]

Hey y'all, I just started the cut diet(1200cals intake)...Now is there usually bloating in the 1st couple of wks?? My stomach has been extended for the past few days,lol but with all things considered I LOVE the diet/training program...

Thanks xoxo,Bri

Bloating sucks. What is your veggie choice?

[ccchance22]

broccoli,green beans,asparagus and,grapefruit

everything else is protien&fats(almonds)

[Lando33]

broccoli,green beans,asparagus and,grapefruit

everything else is protien&fats(almonds)

Unless you have existing food allergies to any of the above foods, I simply do not have an answer to your question.

I have seen circumstances where bloating is either a result of your body getting used to the diet or something as simple as a reaction to eating a bad or spoiled piece of food.

[Scivation]

broccoli,green beans,asparagus and,grapefruit

everything else is protien&fats(almonds)


Unless you have existing food allergies to any of the above foods, I simply do not have an answer to your question.

I have seen circumstances where bloating is either a result of your body getting used to the diet or something as simple as a reaction to eating a bad or spoiled piece of food.

Agreed with rob, but try taking broccoli out for two days and see what happens.

[ccchance22]

Thanks I will...I think it was just a sudden change and my body has to do some adjusting!!

[RUBICON19]

Bloating sucks. What is your veggie choice?


Try asparagus only for greens.

[Scivation]

Thanks I will...I think it was just a sudden change and my body has to do some adjusting!!

Broccoli in copious amounts out of nowhere is usually the culprit for bloating and raunchy gas!

[Lando33]

Broccoli in copious amounts out of nowhere is usually the culprit for bloating and raunchy gas!

agreed. Broccoli is a very fiberous veggie and does have a certain......effect. Plus this diet is very veggie heavy.

[Scivation]

agreed. Broccoli is a very fiberous veggie and does have a certain......effect. Plus this diet is very veggie heavy.

And it explains me clearing out the gym daily!

[ccchance22]

Yes the diet has veggies in every meal...Thank goodness I love veggies,hahahah

[lambpasty]

I probably just missed it but what's the take on multigrain bread or wraps in small amounts during this diet? I was just thinking of doing a tuna or chicken salad (no mayo) sandwich for one meal every now and then. I'm about 19-20% bf running the 3500 to start, trying to get as cut as possible in the 17 weeks the diet is laid out for.

[Idragmazda]

Hey guys, quick question, i searched it in this thread and found no results.

Is Okra an acceptable source for my green veggies? it seems to be the only one I can eat frequently with out getting tired of it.

I looked up its glycemic index and it says its low (<20).

One more question, I pretty much use Pam cooking spray for all my meals (baking chicken, frying up veggies/chicken, etc) is that a problem for my long term health? I dont understand how so much flavor is packed into almost 0 calories lol.

Thanks again my fellow-cut dieters.

Regards,
Depo

[RUBICON19]

Broccoli in copious amounts out of nowhere is usually the culprit for bloating and raunchy gas!


Very true for me too.. I have to do all asparagus for the last 6 - 7 weeks

[leadpipe]

Just wanted to give a quick hurayyy for refeed night. Oats and honey and PB..... to die for. But then it hits me I still have all that sweet potato to plow through. *groan* :)

[jaim91]

I probably just missed it but what's the take on multigrain bread or wraps in small amounts during this diet? I was just thinking of doing a tuna or chicken salad (no mayo) sandwich for one meal every now and then. I'm about 19-20% bf running the 3500 to start, trying to get as cut as possible in the 17 weeks the diet is laid out for.

Definitely not...

The diet is written out this way for a reason :)


Hey guys, quick question, i searched it in this thread and found no results.

Is Okra an acceptable source for my green veggies? it seems to be the only one I can eat frequently with out getting tired of it.

I looked up its glycemic index and it says its low (<20).

One more question, I pretty much use Pam cooking spray for all my meals (baking chicken, frying up veggies/chicken, etc) is that a problem for my long term health? I dont understand how so much flavor is packed into almost 0 calories lol.

Thanks again my fellow-cut dieters.

Regards,
Depo

Look it up on fitday. If it's high in fibre, low in sugar and NOT a root veggie, then it's probably an acceptable substitute.

[burke]

You guys have probably answered this but I can't find it. In the book you talk about combining protein and carbs and how that should not be done unless a fat source is added to the meal...

What would you say to someone like a Dave Palumbo who says "I never combine fats and carbs in the same meal as this causes the body to store more fat. It also kills the appetite when you should be eating smaller, more frequent, protein feedings to boost the metabolism. Above all, protein should be focused on. "

Just curious, thanks.

[Lando33]

You guys have probably answered this but I can't find it. In the book you talk about combining protein and carbs and how that should not be done unless a fat source is added to the meal...

What would you say to someone like a Dave Palumbo who says "I never combine fats and carbs in the same meal as this causes the body to store more fat. It also kills the appetite when you should be eating smaller, more frequent, protein feedings to boost the metabolism. Above all, protein should be focused on. "

Just curious, thanks.

I don't truly understand what you are asking. Dave's diets are strangely similar to ours in terms of the structure. The Cut Diet book speaks of the following in reference to protein and slow-digesting carbs like oatmeal and sweet potato:

Never Combine Carbohydrates and Protein

The fact of the matter is, by utilizing this approach, the insulin spike is
dramatically minimized and the carbohydrates will do what we want them to do, refill glycogen stores and support healthy thyroid function. When you combine fat and carbohydrates, the fat slows down the bolus entry into the small intestine, reducing transit time while providing an appropriate insulin response. When you combine protein and carbohydrates, it sends insulin skyrocketing and can lead to the last thing you want when
dieting, fat storage!

We like to refeed with starchy, nutrient-dense carbohydrates and good fats with no protein every third day depending on caloric intake. This all depends on the bodytype of the individual. In our experience, 85-90% of our clients see great results with this tactic. The reason for this is to get the body in a fat-burning state but not allow it to think it is starving. One problem we have with the low-carbohydrate phase is that a person?s metabolic rate (especially thyroid) functions off of calories and carbohydrates. If you cut out carbohydrates all the way, the body begins to sense a state of starvation. This will slow down the metabolic rate as well as thyroid production and you then hit the wall, or a sticking point.

What we like to do is incorporate good carbohydrates with good fats because it slows down digestion and supports healthy insulin output so there is optimal metabolism along with healthy calories and protein to preserve muscle tissue. Let?s face it; muscle preservation is the key to fat burning.

If we have a person that begins at 185 pounds and is 19-20% bodyfat and after 12-16 weeks is 165 pounds and at 15% bodyfat, then we are not too happy with the results. On the other hand, if that same person is 180 pounds at the end of 12-16 weeks and is 10-11% bodyfat, then we have succeeded.

[Lando33]

You guys have probably answered this but I can't find it. In the book you talk about combining protein and carbs and how that should not be done unless a fat source is added to the meal...

What would you say to someone like a Dave Palumbo who says "I never combine fats and carbs in the same meal as this causes the body to store more fat. It also kills the appetite when you should be eating smaller, more frequent, protein feedings to boost the metabolism. Above all, protein should be focused on. "

Just curious, thanks.

Re-reading your post again, Dave's quote echoes our book's statements.

[burke]

Nvm I misread something lol. My mistake

[Idragmazda]

Would there be any positive side effects of putting off the Carb Refeed an extra day (refeed once every 4 days instead of 3)?

I'm into week 3 so far, and I know i've burned some fat, I wanted to know if this would help expediate the process (trying to get ready for vacation in a few months). Thanks.

[Lando33]

Would there be any positive side effects of putting off the Carb Refeed an extra day (refeed once every 4 days instead of 3)?

I'm into week 3 so far, and I know i've burned some fat, I wanted to know if this would help expediate the process (trying to get ready for vacation in a few months). Thanks.

I would recommend to do the diet as designed. If you need to push back the meal a day or so, just be consistent with that. no biggie.

[MitchB]

Hey guys I'm on the cut diet 2500 and I was wondering if I could get away with eating 7 meals instead of 6. My day would go like this: meal 1 normal, meal 2 would be half, meal 3 would be normal, meal 4 is the other half, then the rest are regular sizes. I would need meal 2 and 4 to be half because I only have 5 minutes to eat in between classes at school.. and I've only been able to stuff the whole meal down like 2 times. Any thoughts?

[lblblb]

If i was you i would just split my macros evenly through the meals. rather than just eat 2 half meals. because you would be getting less protien for the periods between those meals. Does that make sense? im having a hard time putting the answer into words. sorry.

[lblblb]

Hey guys. Im currently doing cut diet 4000. my macros per meal are 49 pro, 30 carbs and 20 fats. i was using nitro core 24 by optimum. I was looking at the macros per serving and if i were to take 2 scoops i could get 48 pro, 28 carbs (10 of it fiber) and 10 fat.

If i were to add some almonds to make up for the other 10 fats, do you think this is a viable option; as sometimes im in a rush and have to eat cold chicken and veggies in the car on the way to work/daycare/gym. anyone?

[RUBICON19]

Hey guys. Im currently doing cut diet 4000. my macros per meal are 49 pro, 30 carbs and 20 fats. i was using nitro core 24 by optimum. I was looking at the macros per serving and if i were to take 2 scoops i could get 48 pro, 28 carbs (10 of it fiber) and 10 fat.

If i were to add some almonds to make up for the other 10 fats, do you think this is a viable option; as sometimes im in a rush and have to eat cold chicken and veggies in the car on the way to work/daycare/gym. anyone?


What source do these carbs come from?

[RUBICON19]

Hey guys I'm on the cut diet 2500 and I was wondering if I could get away with eating 7 meals instead of 6. My day would go like this: meal 1 normal, meal 2 would be half, meal 3 would be normal, meal 4 is the other half, then the rest are regular sizes. I would need meal 2 and 4 to be half because I only have 5 minutes to eat in between classes at school.. and I've only been able to stuff the whole meal down like 2 times. Any thoughts?

Why not a shake here?

[lblblb]

What source do these carbs come from?
its mostly fiber, but there is 2 grams of maltodextrin per scoop. it wouldnt be all the time maybe 2 times per week or something like that.

[vgalvan18]

Hey, Im going to compete on April 18 and then again 2-3days later. (Cut Diet ROCKS) I was wondering what the Peak Week protocol would be for that? What do I do on the following 2 days? And what about the Carb Meal, do I have one both days?

[Lando33]

Hey, Im going to compete on April 18 and then again 2-3days later. (Cut Diet ROCKS) I was wondering what the Peak Week protocol would be for that? What do I do on the following 2 days? And what about the Carb Meal, do I have one both days?

The timing is gonig to be tough but what I would reccomend to do is the following:

- Follow the peak week protocol leading into the first show day
- DO NOT go for a post contest binge meal
- Hit the gym for a LIGHT full body training session the very next day
- Get right back on the cut diet the next day
- use a similar contest day protocol as the first show. You may need to change it just a little bit in terms of what you will need to fill out for the 2nd show as opposed to the first.

[RUBICON19]

its mostly fiber, but there is 2 grams of maltodextrin per scoop. it wouldnt be all the time maybe 2 times per week or something like that.


Maybe ok for the beggining of the diet, but as you progress I would drop it and use scivation whey

[vgalvan18]

The timing is gonig to be tough but what I would reccomend to do is the following:

- Follow the peak week protocol leading into the first show day
- DO NOT go for a post contest binge meal
- Hit the gym for a LIGHT full body training session the very next day
- Get right back on the cut diet the next day
- use a similar contest day protocol as the first show. You may need to change it just a little bit in terms of what you will need to fill out for the 2nd show as opposed to the first.

Thank you sir. No carb up the second time around?

[Lando33]

Thank you sir. No carb up the second time around?

yes carb up but you may require more or less carbs. it's really hard to tell in advance.

[lambpasty]

Just curious; is homemade salsa (fresh, no salt) using foods from the lists included in small (1 TBSP) amounts an acceptable condiment choice? Was thinking about putting it on some chicken. Also is reconstituted lemon or lime juice alright to use at all or is that a big no? It's calorie free.

[Lando33]

Just curious; is homemade salsa (fresh, no salt) in small (1 TBSP) amounts an acceptable condiment choice?

no. as the diet does not allow for tomatoes, onions, peppers or whatever else you include in your salsa.

stick to mustard, soy sauce, spice mixes without sugar as your spice options.

[lambpasty]

no. as the diet does not allow for tomatoes, onions, peppers or whatever else you include in your salsa.

stick to mustard, soy sauce, spice mixes without sugar as your spice options.
Soy sauce wouldn't be too much salt? In that case I'm perfectly happy with that option then :D. I also made an edit asking about reconstituted lemon/lime juice. Too acidic?

[Lando33]

Soy sauce wouldn't be too much salt? In that case I'm perfectly happy with that option then :D. I also made an edit asking about reconstituted lemon/lime juice. Too acidic?

in moderation, soy sauce is fine. I wouldn't worry about sodium levels unless you are prepping for a show and about a month or so out from it.

yeah, I'd go without the lemon or lime juice as well.

[lambpasty]

in moderation, soy sauce is fine. I wouldn't worry about sodium levels unless you are prepping for a show and about a month or so out from it.

yeah, I'd go without the lemon or lime juice as well.
Good to know. Thanks a lot man, I'm on day two of the diet so it's good to know this stuff now.

[Lando33]

Good to know. Thanks a lot man, I'm on day two of the diet so it's good to know this stuff now.

no problem. be sure to post any questions that you may have. The book tends to cover most answers but it's always great to ask questions!

[Oak-As 916]

I am confident that I am wrong, but I have a question?

When I add up the calories for Meal 2 and meal 4 in the cut diet 2000 plan i get a different number than what is given. These meals are: 2 scoops whey, 2 tbsp PB, and 1 cup of veggies. The 2 tbsp of PB are 210 calories, and the whey is around 200 calories. So that is approx 400 right there without even adding the vegetables into the equation.

The macros given for meal 2 are 42pro 10carb 15fat. This is 343 calories.

Am i missing something here? I have been following the Cut 2000 since saturday and have only been eating 5 meals instead of the recommended 6 because when I add the calories I get a higher number.

I am pretty sure that I am the one doing something wrong here.

[RUBICON19]

I am confident that I am wrong, but I have a question?

When I add up the calories for Meal 2 and meal 4 in the cut diet 2000 plan i get a different number than what is given. These meals are: 2 scoops whey, 2 tbsp PB, and 1 cup of veggies. The 2 tbsp of PB are 210 calories, and the whey is around 200 calories. So that is approx 400 right there without even adding the vegetables into the equation.

The macros given for meal 2 are 42pro 10carb 15fat. This is 343 calories.

Am i missing something here? I have been following the Cut 2000 since saturday and have only been eating 5 meals instead of the recommended 6 because when I add the calories I get a higher number.

I am pretty sure that I am the one doing something wrong here.

No worries. Keep the 6 meals. Everything is relevant. It will all pan out along the way. Dont worry what the ACTUAL calorie count is.. Maybe its really 2300 per day. Thats fine. Losing? Stay the same. Not losing? Increase cardio or drop cal levels or both. It will all work itself out

[M@XLOL]

I have a question about measuring grean beans... I'd like to eat 1.5 cups and had been weighing out my broccoli (found conversion from cups to ounces) but can't find a conversion for green beans. how do you measure out 1.5 cups/ what is the equiv. in grams/ounces?

[bballbrett5]

I have a question about measuring grean beans... I'd like to eat 1.5 cups and had been weighing out my broccoli (found conversion from cups to ounces) but can't find a conversion for green beans. how do you measure out 1.5 cups/ what is the equiv. in grams/ounces?

http://cutdiet.com/conversion.htm

[M@XLOL]

http://cutdiet.com/conversion.htm

the last place i looked (the bag of green beans) had the info. 83grams=1cup

/my life

[Idragmazda]

I've got a quick question about the 25 grams of carbs that comes towards the end of the day (non-refeed days) in the cut diet 2000. In the book, the table for the cut diet states that the first meal (#1) and last meal (#6) are to have 25 grams from either blueberries or grapefruit. But then when i look at the example meal plans, it shows that meals #1 and #5 have the 25 grams of carbs.

I've been eating the end of the day 25 grams of carbs as my last meal (#6 meal). Am I doing this correct?

Thanks.

[Lando33]

I've got a quick question about the 25 grams of carbs that comes towards the end of the day (non-refeed days) in the cut diet 2000. In the book, the table for the cut diet states that the first meal (#1) and last meal (#6) are to have 25 grams from either blueberries or grapefruit. But then when i look at the example meal plans, it shows that meals #1 and #5 have the 25 grams of carbs.

I've been eating the end of the day 25 grams of carbs as my last meal (#6 meal). Am I doing this correct?

Thanks.


I personally would follow the meal plan version with the carbs in meal 5.

[getnfit2007]

So, Im figuring to be around 185lbs and hopefully this bf, will go down more, currently at 18.1%. And, after doing the math, low cal 2685-to high cal 2936. So does this put me at Cut Diet 2500 or 2750?

[RUBICON19]

So, Im figuring to be around 185lbs and hopefully this bf, will go down more, currently at 18.1%. And, after doing the math, low cal 2685-to high cal 2936. So does this put me at Cut Diet 2500 or 2750?

2750, this leaves wiggle room

[Idragmazda]

I personally would follow the meal plan version with the carbs in meal 5.

The 5th meal is my pwo meal, so is this okay?

[RUBICON19]

The 5th meal is my pwo meal, so is this okay?


Perfect

[AGuilfoy]

Could Anything be replaced for the fibrous carbs? the meals suggest the choice of broccoli, green beans or asparagus, do i need to eat the fibrous stuff? or are there any easier to make options.. oats or brown rice do the trick? other low GI options?

[cjackway]

Could Anything be replaced for the fibrous carbs? the meals suggest the choice of broccoli, green beans or asparagus, do i need to eat the fibrous stuff? or are there any easier to make options.. oats or brown rice do the trick? other low GI options?

The oats and rice will causes an undesireable insulin response. The greens are there to even out the pH of the meal and to add fiber to the diet for regularity. You can sub blueberries (antioxidant) and grapefruit (lipolytic) for some of the greens.
Peace

[cjackway]

Ok guys/gals....I'm 3 days from starting Peak Week. I'm at 1200 cals/day, and small household pets are starting to look tasty! In my manic state, I need clarification. For peak week and specifically my "night before the show" meal, do I need to make adjustments to the amounts listed based upon my current caloric level or just go with the flow?
Thanks
Chris

[Work-Hard]

Ok guys/gals....I'm 3 days from starting Peak Week. I'm at 1200 cals/day, and small household pets are starting to look tasty! In my manic state, I need clarification. For peak week and specifically my "night before the show" meal, do I need to make adjustments to the amounts listed based upon my current caloric level or just go with the flow?
Thanks
Chris

I would send Derek an email. Good luck with the show, keep us posted on how it goes.

[lambpasty]

I've got a question about using mayonaise. I know it's not allowed for in this diet and I'm not planning on using it, but I was wondering if anyone could shed some light as to why it seems to get such a bad rep? Just looking at the ingredients and the nutrition panel it looks fairly decent to me, I've just always been curious as it seems that most diets condemn it.

Any help would be appreciated :cool:

[RUBICON19]

Cjackway. Just go with the flow man. Go by mirror and feel.

[RUBICON19]

I've got a question about using mayonaise. I know it's not allowed for in this diet and I'm not planning on using it, but I was wondering if anyone could shed some light as to why it seems to get such a bad rep? Just looking at the ingredients and the nutrition panel it looks fairly decent to me, I've just always been curious as it seems that most diets condemn it.

Any help would be appreciated :cool:


I use organic mayo sometimes at the beggining of dieting, but tend to leave it behind as time goes on.

[cjackway]

Cjackway. Just go with the flow man. Go by mirror and feel.
Thanks. Goin by feel and look have done well for me thus far. I guess I've just got "first timer" jitters. :)

[RUBICON19]

Thanks. Goin by feel and look have done well for me thus far. I guess I've just got "first timer" jitters. :)


Good luck. Its all a learning experience. Keep us posted!!!!

[MitchB]

I have a question about creatine. Could I put a teaspoon of some Micronized creatine in my Xtend while i lift and then have one more teaspoon like before bed with my meal 6? Or should i just leave it out? What do you guys think?

Im currently stacking Vasocharge preworkout, Xtend during and post workout, animal pack multi with breakfast, 7 keto with lunch, and ZMA before bed.

[getnfit2007]

Hello all,
Monday I start the cut diet, my wife and I have made the grocery list, after looking at the 3000 cut diet, and there is alot of veggies, alot. Seeing, that money is getting tight with economy and things. The veggies are gonna be hard to eat 1.5 cups per meal. Besides picking up some L-Glutamine, is there anything else I get, eat, that would be not as expensive?

[RUBICON19]

Hello all,
Monday I start the cut diet, my wife and I have made the grocery list, after looking at the 3000 cut diet, and there is alot of veggies, alot. Seeing, that money is getting tight with economy and things. The veggies are gonna be hard to eat 1.5 cups per meal. Besides picking up some L-Glutamine, is there anything else I get, eat, that would be not as expensive?.

Just buy frozen veggies in bulk. Cheap money.

[RUBICON19]

I have a question about creatine. Could I put a teaspoon of some Micronized creatine in my Xtend while i lift and then have one more teaspoon like before bed with my meal 6? Or should i just leave it out? What do you guys think?

Im currently stacking Vasocharge preworkout, Xtend during and post workout, animal pack multi with breakfast, 7 keto with lunch, and ZMA before bed.


This may help: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4568233

[getnfit2007]

.

Just buy frozen veggies in bulk. Cheap money.

Your saying, I dont need to stick to purely green veggies???

[RUBICON19]

Your saying, I dont need to stick to purely green veggies???


No. Green veggies is it. Bying frozen in bulk is less expensive is all I was saying

[getnfit2007]

No. Green veggies is it. Bying frozen in bulk is less expensive is all I was saying

Ok, just thought of another one. In the book, it says I can take L-glutamine, if i can't get a fat or veggies in during a meal. But everything Im reading, is telling me to take L-glute, after a workout. When is the best time to take it? say its 1000mg per serving, should i take more then that, if I can't get a veggie in?

[bballbrett5]

brussels sprouts are a good green veggie, right? i guess they are more "dense" in the fact that not too many of them adds up carbs quickly, but they still work right?

[RUBICON19]

Ok, just thought of another one. In the book, it says I can take L-glutamine, if i can't get a fat or veggies in during a meal. But everything Im reading, is telling me to take L-glute, after a workout. When is the best time to take it? say its 1000mg per serving, should i take more then that, if I can't get a veggie in?

I dont think I have ever read this.

[RUBICON19]

brussels sprouts are a good green veggie, right? i guess they are more "dense" in the fact that not too many of them adds up carbs quickly, but they still work right?

Should be ok. Just use the correct amount. I would prob use in moderation as well. The greens that are listed in the book are whats optimal.

[MitchB]

This may help: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4568233

So just take the Creaform after I'm done lifting, and on off days? And stay with the vasocharge pre and all my other stuff?

[RUBICON19]

So just take the Creaform after I'm done lifting, and on off days? And stay with the vasocharge pre and all my other stuff?

I would just use the creaform on off days. Vaso pre. This way there is no waste.

[MitchB]

Okay. Thanks :)

I have a couple other questions.. I've been doing the cut diet 2500 for 4 weeks on monday. I've followed everything perfectly except for like 3 meals total. I've seen gradual progress, but when should i go down to the 2250? Also, with the creaform should i do the loading phase and then just take it on off days? and if so, when should i take it during those first 5 days?

[RUBICON19]

Okay. Thanks :)

I have a couple other questions.. I've been doing the cut diet 2500 for 4 weeks on monday. I've followed everything perfectly except for like 3 meals total. I've seen gradual progress, but when should i go down to the 2250? Also, with the creaform should i do the loading phase and then just take it on off days? and if so, when should i take it during those first 5 days?

Gradual progress is still progress. Do you have a deadline? If not, then just roll with the higher cal level for as long as you can. Have you increased cardio?

As for the Creaform. I dont think a loading phase will be necessary.

[MitchB]

I started with very little cardio for the first two weeks, like once a week for 40 min. But the past 2 weeks I've done two 40 min fast pace walks and one 30 min. I'm just trying to cut way down because i gained a little too much on my last bulk.. Then after summer I'm going into a 4-5 month lean bulk then another cut before competition. :)

Thanks for your help BTW.

[lblblb]

Anyone that could help. My cals fall between 3788 and 3990. My current BF is about 17-18%. Im wondering if i should use the 3500 or 4000. im hesitant to use the 3500 b/c its almost 300 cals under my lowest number. Is there a way to us the 3500 diet and add 300 cals or should i just go with 4000.

[RUBICON19]

I started with very little cardio for the first two weeks, like once a week for 40 min. But the past 2 weeks I've done two 40 min fast pace walks and one 30 min. I'm just trying to cut way down because i gained a little too much on my last bulk.. Then after summer I'm going into a 4-5 month lean bulk then another cut before competition. :)

Thanks for your help BTW.


So then always increase calorie output prior to cutting more cals. You are doing 3 cardio sessions per week, correct?
1 - 40
2 - 40
3 - 30

Make the 3rd one 40 minutes for now. At your next sticking point start adding in another cardio day, say maybe 20 mins.. The good thing is that you get to take your time.

[RUBICON19]

Anyone that could help. My cals fall between 3788 and 3990. My current BF is about 17-18%. Im wondering if i should use the 3500 or 4000. im hesitant to use the 3500 b/c its almost 300 cals under my lowest number. Is there a way to us the 3500 diet and add 300 cals or should i just go with 4000.

Just go ahead with 4000. You can always adjust as you go on.

[MitchB]

I started with very little cardio for the first two weeks, like once a week for 40 min. But the past 2 weeks I've done two 40 min fast pace walks and one 30 min. I'm just trying to cut way down because i gained a little too much on my last bulk.. Then after summer I'm going into a 4-5 month lean bulk then another cut before competition. :)

Thanks for your help BTW.

[lblblb]

Just go ahead with 4000. You can always adjust as you go on.
thanks alot.

[Oak-As 916]

what is the verdict on lifting first thing in the morning without a meal in me yet? I thought I read something in the cut diet that said with your xtend it is ok to do this.

[rockeo]

hey ladies & gentlemen - do u guys recomend any good site's to check my BF % ??
thank you !

[M@XLOL]

Anyone know how many cups of raw spinach is equal to (approx) 1.33 cups of steamed spinach. I prefer eating it raw. Thanks


280 g raw. Don't have a scale? well...your in trouble then :)
can someone confirm whether or not this answer is legit? much obliged.

[Oak-As 916]

what is the verdict on lifting first thing in the morning without a meal in me yet? I thought I read something in the cut diet that said with your xtend it is ok to do this.

found the answer.

[cjackway]

hey ladies & gentlemen - do u guys recomend any good site's to check my BF % ??
thank you !

Here's the one I use. www.exrx.net/Calculators/BodyComp.html
Chris

[rockeo]

Here's the one I use. www.exrx.net/Calculators/BodyComp.html
Chris

hey thanx - the only thing, im not sure how to measure/calculate on that site.
i dont have a Caliper.

[cjackway]

hey thanx - the only thing, im not sure how to measure/calculate on that site.
i dont have a Caliper.
You'll need calipers for any BF% site you go to. You can get a cheap pair here on BB.com

[getnfit2007]

I get up at 4.45am and fuel up with vasocharge at 5.10am before leaving for the gym to start my workout at 5.30am. Is it ok to have a morning meal before working out, say, about 30-45 mins before actually working out. The meal consisting of PB+Whey+fruit. Then loading up with the vasocharge 15 mins. before working out.

[frank69688]

Derek, I'm cutting now. But I got stalled.

I'm 81kg around 24% BF and 163cm tall.
I rather confused about refeed days. I planned 6 days low carbs around 150g , when refeed days should I doubled it into 300g Or less?
What about total calories on refeed days? same cals or higher as low carb days?
Does my low carbs day (150g) too high? or should I reduce it into 100g?

Thanks

[budgetballer]

What we like to do is incorporate good carbohydrates with good fats because it slows down digestion and supports healthy insulin output so there is optimal metabolism along with healthy calories and protein to preserve muscle tissue. Let?s face it; muscle preservation is the key to fat burning.

If we have a person that begins at 185 pounds and is 19-20% bodyfat and after 12-16 weeks is 165 pounds and at 15% bodyfat, then we are not too happy with the results. On the other hand, if that same person is 180 pounds at the end of 12-16 weeks and is 10-11% bodyfat, then we have succeeded. [/b]

It doesn't make sense to me because @ 185 lbs with 20% bodyfat, you have 148 lbs of LEAN MUSCLE MASS (185 lbs X .8 nonbodyfat)

And @ 180 lbs with 10% bodyfat, you have 162 lbs of LEAN MUSCLE MASS (180 *.9 nonbodyfat)

So you're saying at the beginning of cut diet, a person has 148 lbs of lean mass and at the end of the 16 week cut diet, it's quite possible to have 162 lbs of lean mass? That's like 14lbs of LEAN MASS gain! Like using steroids =) Please clarify, because I'm quite interested.

[RUBICON19]

It doesn't make sense to me because @ 185 lbs with 20% bodyfat, you have 148 lbs of LEAN MUSCLE MASS (185 lbs X .8 nonbodyfat)

And @ 180 lbs with 10% bodyfat, you have 162 lbs of LEAN MUSCLE MASS (180 *.9 nonbodyfat)

So you're saying at the beginning of cut diet, a person has 148 lbs of lean mass and at the end of the 16 week cut diet, it's quite possible to have 162 lbs of lean mass? That's like 14lbs of LEAN MASS gain! Like using steroids =) Please clarify, because I'm quite interested.

There will be some lean mass gained at the beggining of the CD. I dont know about 14LBs, but I think Rob was just trying to make a point.

[Lando33]

It doesn't make sense to me because @ 185 lbs with 20% bodyfat, you have 148 lbs of LEAN MUSCLE MASS (185 lbs X .8 nonbodyfat)

And @ 180 lbs with 10% bodyfat, you have 162 lbs of LEAN MUSCLE MASS (180 *.9 nonbodyfat)

So you're saying at the beginning of cut diet, a person has 148 lbs of lean mass and at the end of the 16 week cut diet, it's quite possible to have 162 lbs of lean mass? That's like 14lbs of LEAN MASS gain! Like using steroids =) Please clarify, because I'm quite interested.

it was an example, taken DIRECTLY from the Cut Diet book. With ANY cutting diet, there will be some muscle lost....no matter how perfect the diet is.

No one is talking steroids here at all. We are talking about a diet that will allow you to maximize the retention of lean mass during a hypo caloric phase.

For clarity, I broke down Scivation's example from above.....

NOT GOOD
before - 185 pounds & 19-20% bodyfat
after - 165 pounds & 15% bodyfat

GOOD RESULTS
before - 185 pounds & 19-20% bodyfat
after - 180 pounds & 10-11% bodyfat


This example shows that the goal of the Cut Diet is preservation of lean mass while reducing bodyfat. Often times with this diet as proven over it's 10 plus years of use, people don't see the scale move as often as they want to but in reality they are seeing a reduction in bodyfat levels.

[budgetballer]

There will be some lean mass gained at the beggining of the CD. I dont know about 14LBs, but I think Rob was just trying to make a point.


it was an example, taken DIRECTLY from the Cut Diet book. With ANY cutting diet, there will be some muscle lost....no matter how perfect the diet is.

No one is talking steroids here at all. We are talking about a diet that will allow you to maximize the retention of lean mass during a hypo caloric phase.

For clarity, I broke down Scivation's example from above.....

NOT GOOD
before - 185 pounds & 19-20% bodyfat
after - 165 pounds & 15% bodyfat

GOOD RESULTS
before - 185 pounds & 19-20% bodyfat
after - 180 pounds & 10-11% bodyfat


This example shows that the goal of the Cut Diet is preservation of lean mass while reducing bodyfat. Often times with this diet as proven over it's 10 plus years of use, people don't see the scale move as often as they want to but in reality they are seeing a reduction in bodyfat levels.

Okay, so the example is just to give an extreme picture.

So to reiterate: 1) it is quite possible to gain LEAN MASS early on in the cut diet? 2) There will be INDEED some muscle loss (but minimal compared to any other method)?

My biggest fear is muscle loss..that's why I haven't ever looked back to cutting through bad experiences of muscle loss/strength loss.

[cjackway]

Okay, so the example is just to give an extreme picture.

So to reiterate: 1) it is quite possible to gain LEAN MASS early on in the cut diet? 2) There will be INDEED some muscle loss (but minimal compared to any other method)?

My biggest fear is muscle loss..that's why I haven't ever looked back to cutting through bad experiences of muscle loss/strength loss.
By combining Xtend with the Cut Diet, you can't lose. The combination of ingredients in Xtend allows rapid recovery, strength maintenance, and muscle preservation even in extreme caloric deficit. I have been on 1200 calories for the last two weeks of my prep, while using Xtend throughout and I'm maintaining all my lifts.
C

[RUBICON19]

Okay, so the example is just to give an extreme picture.

So to reiterate: 1) it is quite possible to gain LEAN MASS early on in the cut diet? 2) There will be INDEED some muscle loss (but minimal compared to any other method)?

My biggest fear is muscle loss..that's why I haven't ever looked back to cutting through bad experiences of muscle loss/strength loss.

I think with plenty of time and ALL things done properly there will be NO muscle loss and possibly (most likely) some muscle gain throughout the majority of the cut.

[JonMorgan07]

If i find myself with no sweet potatoes on a carb refeed night could i just double up on the oatmeal?

[blueearthmn]

Okay... Hoping I might be able to get a bit of advice. I've been working on joining the navy but need to meet their body fat requirements. Currently by their calculations I have about 2% remaining to loose (I'm at 27% and need to be 25%). I've lost over 100 lbs. since last august. I currently weight 279 lbs. and have hit a plateau. I'm wanting to switch things up. I'm thinkin this diet might be just what I need. I have currently been consuming between 2,000-2,500 calories per day while keeping protein to at least 300g per day. I run 6 days a week, and lift 3 days per week. and I just can't seem to loose lbs. currently. Would the Cut Diet 4000 be acceptable for me? That just seems like a lot of calories to me. I don't want to back step by calculating wrong. Thanks!

[jaim91]

If i find myself with no sweet potatoes on a carb refeed night could i just double up on the oatmeal?

You could do this, but why not just try preparing this in advance. If you know your refeed day is coming up, make sure you have the appropriate foods in the house beforehand. It's in your best interest to follow the plan as it's laid out.


Okay... Hoping I might be able to get a bit of advice. I've been working on joining the navy but need to meet their body fat requirements. Currently by their calculations I have about 2% remaining to loose (I'm at 27% and need to be 25%). I've lost over 100 lbs. since last august. I currently weight 279 lbs. and have hit a plateau. I'm wanting to switch things up. I'm thinkin this diet might be just what I need. I have currently been consuming between 2,000-2,500 calories per day while keeping protein to at least 300g per day. I run 6 days a week, and lift 3 days per week. and I just can't seem to loose lbs. currently. Would the Cut Diet 4000 be acceptable for me? That just seems like a lot of calories to me. I don't want to back step by calculating wrong. Thanks!

Did you calcuclate 4000 cals according to the guidelines at the beginning of the book? If you've currently been eating 2000 - 25000, then why not start with something around that level?

[RUBICON19]

Okay... Hoping I might be able to get a bit of advice. I've been working on joining the navy but need to meet their body fat requirements. Currently by their calculations I have about 2% remaining to loose (I'm at 27% and need to be 25%). I've lost over 100 lbs. since last august. I currently weight 279 lbs. and have hit a plateau. I'm wanting to switch things up. I'm thinkin this diet might be just what I need. I have currently been consuming between 2,000-2,500 calories per day while keeping protein to at least 300g per day. I run 6 days a week, and lift 3 days per week. and I just can't seem to loose lbs. currently. Would the Cut Diet 4000 be acceptable for me? That just seems like a lot of calories to me. I don't want to back step by calculating wrong. Thanks!

2500

[Lando33]

If i find myself with no sweet potatoes on a carb refeed night could i just double up on the oatmeal?

if you are not prepping for a show, that is okay once in awhile. but if you are prepping for a show, prepare what you need in advance and do not stray from the plan.

[getnfit2007]

Whats the solution?

I can't seem to fall asleep at night. Im tired around 6-7, then when I lay down at 10. I lay there till 11.30 not being able to sleep. Also, after my morning workout, which is at 5.30am. Im ok till about 8.30-9.00am. Then I get instantly tired. I cut my coffee back to two cups in the morning since Im taking Dialene. Besides picking up some Knock out, is there anything else I can do?

[Lando33]

Whats the solution?

I can't seem to fall asleep at night. Im tired around 6-7, then when I lay down at 10. I lay there till 11.30 not being able to sleep. Also, after my morning workout, which is at 5.30am. Im ok till about 8.30-9.00am. Then I get instantly tired. I cut my coffee back to two cups in the morning since Im taking Dialene. Besides picking up some Knock out, is there anything else I can do?

how close to bed are you eating? Are you watching TV in bed? What is your meal timing like? What is your evening routine when you get home at night? Are you in a good mental place? Are you stressing about anything?


There are sooooo many variables here!

[rockeo]

Whats the solution?

I can't seem to fall asleep at night. Im tired around 6-7, then when I lay down at 10. I lay there till 11.30 not being able to sleep. Also, after my morning workout, which is at 5.30am. Im ok till about 8.30-9.00am. Then I get instantly tired. I cut my coffee back to two cups in the morning since Im taking Dialene. Besides picking up some Knock out, is there anything else I can do?

i use to have sleep issues also but i found this awesome product : check it out :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/thea.html
hope this helps bruddah :D!

[getnfit2007]

how close to bed are you eating? Are you watching TV in bed? What is your meal timing like? What is your evening routine when you get home at night? Are you in a good mental place? Are you stressing about anything?


There are sooooo many variables here!

Last meal is between 8-8.30. Unless it weds. then it like (looks at ceiling) 10pm. I do watch TV, if I don't fall asleep within 15 mins. Timing on meals 7am, 9.30am, 11.30am, 2.30pm, 5.30pm and 8. Routines at home after work, immediately 45 mins. threadmil with xtend 2 scoops, eat, relax a bit, then out to meetings till about 9.30 at night. I take sludge with me to eat, when away from the house in the evenings. Mental Health is much better now that i quit drinking. As far as the home front, another story...

Does that help?

[Idragmazda]

I was reading the nutritional label on the splenda box when i noticed that the ingredients are maltodextrin, dextrose and sucralose.

Now my question is, for my non-carb up meal, such as a cup of coffee (black) on a regular day, is splenda okay? I always thought the glycemic index of maltodextrin was pretty high, or am i missing something. I just started this past week drinking coffee with splenda under the assumption that it was okay.

Thanks for the info.

[MitchB]

I need some opinions on my supplements. Is this a good schedule for them?

Meal 1: 7-keto, HMB
Meal 2:
Meal 3:
Meal 4 (preworkout):7-Keto, HMB, Animal Pak
15 min before workout: 2 scoops vasocharge
during workout/during post workout cardio: 4 scoops Xtend
Meal 5:
Meal 6: HMB
Empty stomach before bed: 3 capsules of ZMA

And on off days i drink creaform before meal 4 and before meal 6. No vasocharge on off days. What do you guys think? Oh and my brother had great results a couple years ago with the ZMA, 7-Keto, HMB stack.. so I'm giving it a go :)

[maxx052188]

I could really use a cross reference...


Been on this for 3 weeks and havent lost weight. Im about 165 with about 11-13%BF. Now, using the formula, i am set to use the 2500cal plan.

But my biggest question is, when i calculate my caloric intake, am I supposed to use my actual weight or my Lean Body Mass?

If i just use my actual weight(which is what i AM using now) should i jump down a step to the 2250cal plan?


PS im using the routine from the book and doing cardio on every of the 5 lifting days like it says for 30min at 3.5-4mph.

[RUBICON19]

MAXX. First thing is first. Increase cardio to 35 mins and see if anything moves.

[maxx052188]

MAXX. First thing is first. Increase cardio to 35 mins and see if anything moves.

K! Ill start on that tomorrow....But is that your way of saying that i calculated my caloric intake correctly, as well?

[jaim91]

Last meal is between 8-8.30. Unless it weds. then it like (looks at ceiling) 10pm. I do watch TV, if I don't fall asleep within 15 mins. Timing on meals 7am, 9.30am, 11.30am, 2.30pm, 5.30pm and 8. Routines at home after work, immediately 45 mins. threadmil with xtend 2 scoops, eat, relax a bit, then out to meetings till about 9.30 at night. I take sludge with me to eat, when away from the house in the evenings. Mental Health is much better now that i quit drinking. As far as the home front, another story...

Does that help?

I would try something like reading before bed instead of watching TV. The waves convince your body that it's actually light outside, and so it takes you longer to fall asleep because it messes with your cycle.

And remember, there's nothing wrong with taking knockout. It may be helpful in the short term just to establish sleep patterns and habits. Then, when you have those down, and convince your body you get tired at the same time everyday, you can take yourself off Knockout.


I was reading the nutritional label on the splenda box when i noticed that the ingredients are maltodextrin, dextrose and sucralose.

Now my question is, for my non-carb up meal, such as a cup of coffee (black) on a regular day, is splenda okay? I always thought the glycemic index of maltodextrin was pretty high, or am i missing something. I just started this past week drinking coffee with splenda under the assumption that it was okay.

Thanks for the info.

Nothing wrong with a little Splenda in moderation. THe about of malto isn't enough to spike your insulin. It's negligable.


I need some opinions on my supplements. Is this a good schedule for them?

Meal 1: 7-keto, HMB
Meal 2:
Meal 3:
Meal 4 (preworkout):7-Keto, HMB, Animal Pak
15 min before workout: 2 scoops vasocharge
during workout/during post workout cardio: 4 scoops Xtend
Meal 5:
Meal 6: HMB
Empty stomach before bed: 3 capsules of ZMA

And on off days i drink creaform before meal 4 and before meal 6. No vasocharge on off days. What do you guys think? Oh and my brother had great results a couple years ago with the ZMA, 7-Keto, HMB stack.. so I'm giving it a go :)

Why take the animal pak pre workout?

I would add EFAs/Fish oils to your stack. GREAT for fat loss, heart health, etc.


I could really use a cross reference...


Been on this for 3 weeks and havent lost weight. Im about 165 with about 11-13%BF. Now, using the formula, i am set to use the 2500cal plan.

But my biggest question is, when i calculate my caloric intake, am I supposed to use my actual weight or my Lean Body Mass?

If i just use my actual weight(which is what i AM using now) should i jump down a step to the 2250cal plan?


PS im using the routine from the book and doing cardio on every of the 5 lifting days like it says for 30min at 3.5-4mph.

Start with 2500...if you gain, or plateau, drop down to 2250 :)

[getnfit2007]

Thanks J, will give it a try, without the knockout for now.

[MitchB]

I take the animal pak pre because im getting all the vitamines for the day, and it has b6 for energy. Just an extra pump i guess.. but does everything else look good? I might try some of the EFAs/Fish oils in a couple months when i order a new stack.

[The Solution]

Thanks J, will give it a try, without the knockout for now.

Sometimes some Hot Tea may do the trick, but once you settle into a daily night routine your body becomes accusomsted and gets use to falling alseep.

Try keeping the lights dim, volume down at night and see how it plays out.

[leadpipe]

I finally remembered to type up some questions I've been meaning to ask. I'm hoping you guys can help me out. I'm on the 3500 diet right now. 246 lbs mesomorph with high BF. Not competing, just want to drop the BF.

What would you suggest would be the best way I could track my BF%? I've been using AccuMeasure calipers (1 site) which put me at 24.1% but I had a PT give me a 3 point analysis and his gave me 17.7 +- 2%. That's not even close to the same!

To get it straight, the normal 2 hrs between meals is from end of one meal to first bite of the next?

The 3500 diet calls for 7 meals a day. I never seem to be able to get more then 5 in, maybe 6. Should I be redistributing the macros for the day into 5 meals or shorten the time between meals to say, 1.5 hours?

If 5 meals is ok, should carb up meal be every 4 days(21 meals)?

Is 7 days a week of cardio ok? 45 min, low intensity.

The book mentions a heart rate of 130-150 for low intensity but fat burn HR is 65% of 220 minus age (127 for me). Should I be aiming for at least HR 130? Should I be doing 150?

I know this is a serious, competition cut diet and should just be followed as written. However, I am curious as to how sensitive it is to disruption. An ounce of milk in your coffee or 1 bite of a friends fresh baked cookies, will that throw me off to much? How about 4 cookies? :( (I skipped carb meal that cycle)

Sorry for throwing this all out at once but I appreciate it guys.

[M@XLOL]

REPS TO THE FIRST PERSON TO TELL ME THE EQUIVALANCE OF 1.33 CUPS OF SPINACH TO GRAMS OF BROCCOLI AND GREEN BEANS

[leadpipe]

REPS TO THE FIRST PERSON TO TELL ME THE EQUIVALANCE OF 1.33 CUPS OF SPINACH TO GRAMS OF BROCCOLI AND GREEN BEANS

125 g green beans
156 g broccoli

[jj562]

hi my name is adelfo "jay" cerame jr. i am a wheelchair bodybuilder. i am currently less than 2 weeks out from the wheelchair nationals in palm beach florida on march 21st. this will be my second compettition but my first wheelchair national show. i have not been following your cut diet program because i only ran into your site a couple weeks ago through brian whitacres web page because his physique is what i am trying to achieve. during my training i have been reading alot of your online books and it makes sense. after my competition, i am going to go on your lean mass diet. i like the fact that i can stay shredded and lean while gaining lean mass. then i will use your cut diet when i prepare for another show... and i also wanted to know if i can just jump into your routine and refeeds for my peak week, or should i just stick to the diet im doing right now since i didnt follow the cut diet?... like i said i would have followed this philosophy if i would have found out earlier during my training prep....

here is some current pics of me less than 2 weeks out before nationals... tell me what you think if i can still follow your peak week program?...

[jaim91]

i also wanted to know if i can just jump into your routine and refeeds for my peak week, or should i just stick to the diet im doing right now since i didnt follow the cut diet?... like i said i would have followed this philosophy if i would have found out earlier during my training prep....

here is some current pics of me less than 2 weeks out before nationals... tell me what you think if i can still follow your peak week program?...

Jay, you look un-friggin-believeable! Your conditioning is amazing!!!

I think you could definitely follow the Game Over peak weel plan, and it would help dial you in for sure. If you want, e-mail derek@scivation.com or rob@scivation.com and they can help talk you through the process.

We'll definitely help keep you lean this offseason!

Best of luck with your show!

[mickapoo]

Would Lipolyze enhance the fat loss effects or is it not advisable? What about CLA? Would it have any effect or just be a waste of money?

[mickapoo]

The 1200 calorie meal 1 states:
8 egg whites
1 whole egg
1.33 cup steamed spinach
6 almonds
6.5 oz PEELED ruby red grapefruit or 99g blueberries
.................................................. ....
35g protein, 25g carbohydrates, 10g fat

How is it that 8 egg whites and 1 whole egg only add up to 35g of protein? Large eggs are 6g protein, xl are 7. with 9 egg whites total, they'd have to be less than 3g of protein a piece. And that's not to mention the protein from the almonds (albeit a tiny bit).

[RUBICON19]

The 1200 calorie meal 1 states:
8 egg whites
1 whole egg
1.33 cup steamed spinach
6 almonds
6.5 oz PEELED ruby red grapefruit or 99g blueberries
.................................................. ....
35g protein, 25g carbohydrates, 10g fat

How is it that 8 egg whites and 1 whole egg only add up to 35g of protein? Large eggs are 6g protein, xl are 7. with 9 egg whites total, they'd have to be less than 3g of protein a piece. And that's not to mention the protein from the almonds (albeit a tiny bit).

Its actually 8 egg whites x 4 grams pro = 32 + 6 which = 38. Off by a few give or take on the eggs used. On the CD we dont count the protein in the fat source (almonds). Everything is relative as the diet decreases in cals. Hope this helps. :)

[Lando33]

Its actually 8 egg whites x 4 grams pro = 32 + 6 which = 38. Off by a few give or take on the eggs used. On the CD we dont count the protein in the fat source (almonds). Everything is relative as the diet decreases in cals. Hope this helps. :)

GREAT ANSWER!

In addition, ALL Scivation Diets are calculated using the Diabetic Exchange. Our diets are designed to control insulin.

For some more info, check out: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes-diet/DA00027

[cjackway]

hi my name is adelfo "jay" cerame jr. i am a wheelchair bodybuilder. i am currently less than 2 weeks out from the wheelchair nationals in palm beach florida on march 21st. this will be my second compettition but my first wheelchair national show. i have not been following your cut diet program because i only ran into your site a couple weeks ago through brian whitacres web page because his physique is what i am trying to achieve. during my training i have been reading alot of your online books and it makes sense. after my competition, i am going to go on your lean mass diet. i like the fact that i can stay shredded and lean while gaining lean mass. then i will use your cut diet when i prepare for another show... and i also wanted to know if i can just jump into your routine and refeeds for my peak week, or should i just stick to the diet im doing right now since i didnt follow the cut diet?... like i said i would have followed this philosophy if i would have found out earlier during my training prep....

here is some current pics of me less than 2 weeks out before nationals... tell me what you think if i can still follow your peak week program?...

Follow the Peak week format. I just completed it for my very first show and the results were incredible. Simple to follow and extremely thorough.
Chris

[cjackway]

Would Lipolyze enhance the fat loss effects or is it not advisable? What about CLA? Would it have any effect or just be a waste of money?
The lipolyze would be a waste. I would recommend using CLA. It has a lot of benefits besides just enhancing fat loss. I use Primaforce Max CLA. Utilizing the CD plan will maximize your fat loss without adding the lipolyze.

[mickapoo]

Its actually 8 egg whites x 4 grams pro = 32 + 6 which = 38. Off by a few give or take on the eggs used. On the CD we dont count the protein in the fat source (almonds). Everything is relative as the diet decreases in cals. Hope this helps. :)

Trying not to be dumb as a rock but what kind of egg white only has 4 grams of protein?

[mickapoo]

The lipolyze would be a waste. I would recommend using CLA. It has a lot of benefits besides just enhancing fat loss. I use Primaforce Max CLA. Utilizing the CD plan will maximize your fat loss without adding the lipolyze.

Thanks!

[RUBICON19]

Trying not to be dumb as a rock but what kind of egg white only has 4 grams of protein?

Almost any large egg white

http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-eggs-chicken-egg-egg-white-cooked-no-added-fat_f-Y2lkPTE2MDcxJmJpZD0xJmZpZD05OTE1NSZlaWQ9MzkyNTY4OT cxJnBvcz0xJnBhcj0ma2V5PUVnZyB3aGl0ZXM.html

[mickapoo]

Almost any large egg white

http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-eggs-chicken-egg-egg-white-cooked-no-added-fat_f-Y2lkPTE2MDcxJmJpZD0xJmZpZD05OTE1NSZlaWQ9MzkyNTY4OT cxJnBvcz0xJnBhcj0ma2V5PUVnZyB3aGl0ZXM.html

Well that's really strange because the eggs in the cartons I have say 7g in XL eggs, and 6g protein in large eggs. Crap. That means without subtracting the protein from the yolk I've been way off on my protein intake. I don't know why I was under the impression that the yolks were 100% fat, and all the protein came from the white of the egg.

[bobyankees12]

Question.

I did the Cut diet a year ago, enjoyed the results. So after booking a vacation I decided to do it again.

However I was trying out the Tri-Phrase Workout. Wanted to continue so I did the Tri-Phease workout routine with the Cut Diet.

Week 5 of the Tri-Phrase is heavy weight, 4 rebs. This was week 3 for me on the Cut Diet. Well I guess I did to much weight. I felt something pop in my chest. Doubt my chest is pulled, think I just strained the muscle. Judging by the pain I know I'm done lifting for at least two weeks.

My question is, diet wise. Should I continue the diet as is or make some changes?

Currently doing the 2,500 calorie Cut Diet from Vol 4.

Thanks

[mickapoo]

I've read that, "We recommend obtaining your carbohydrates in every meal (not including the carbohydrate meal) from leafy green vegetables and grapefruit. " But then it says, "Stick to salads, fresh vegetables and healthy nuts and oils.". When it has the breakdown for my calories, it doesn't say anything about having grapefruit for every meal.

[mickapoo]

So I take it that cardio must be done pre or pwo, not at a different time of day (i.e. work out in the morning, cardio in the evening).

[RUBICON19]

Well that's really strange because the eggs in the cartons I have say 7g in XL eggs, and 6g protein in large eggs. Crap. That means without subtracting the protein from the yolk I've been way off on my protein intake. I don't know why I was under the impression that the yolks were 100% fat, and all the protein came from the white of the egg.

Right. The whole egg is 6 for large or 7 for XL..

[RUBICON19]

Question.

I did the Cut diet a year ago, enjoyed the results. So after booking a vacation I decided to do it again.

However I was trying out the Tri-Phrase Workout. Wanted to continue so I did the Tri-Phease workout routine with the Cut Diet.

Week 5 of the Tri-Phrase is heavy weight, 4 rebs. This was week 3 for me on the Cut Diet. Well I guess I did to much weight. I felt something pop in my chest. Doubt my chest is pulled, think I just strained the muscle. Judging by the pain I know I'm done lifting for at least two weeks.

My question is, diet wise. Should I continue the diet as is or make some changes?

Currently doing the 2,500 calorie Cut Diet from Vol 4.

Thanks

Continue with the CD. Its a great diet. As far as what calorie amount.. well we would need your current stats

[RUBICON19]

I've read that, "We recommend obtaining your carbohydrates in every meal (not including the carbohydrate meal) from leafy green vegetables and grapefruit. " But then it says, "Stick to salads, fresh vegetables and healthy nuts and oils.". When it has the breakdown for my calories, it doesn't say anything about having grapefruit for every meal.


Grapefruit is in meal 1 and meal 5 in most of the CD menus written in the book.

[RUBICON19]

So I take it that cardio must be done pre or pwo, not at a different time of day (i.e. work out in the morning, cardio in the evening).


Cardio can be done at anytime

[mickapoo]

cardio can be done at anytime

But in the book it mentions several times:

1. "Do cardio 30-45 minutes pre or post workout at 130-150 bpm on average"
and
2. "We usually recommend between 30 and 45 minutes of low intensity cardio post workout.There are some instances when cardio before weights is acceptable since they might train first thing in the morning, this helps to warm up aging joints to avoid injury."

3. "Perform 30-45 minutes of cardio on training days either first thing in the morning on an empty stomach with Dialene 4 in your system while sipping on Xtend, Pre or Post Workout."

But you're saying it's ok to split it up?

Thanks!

[mickapoo]

On the carb load at night do you eat all of that ??The 3 of them???or do u just choose one????tnxs

The 3 of what? My 18th meal carb load has me eating:

1 cup steamed green beans = 10g carbohydrates
? cup oatmeal (measured dry then add water and microwave) = 30g carbohydrates
6.5 oz PEELED ruby red grapefruit or 99g blueberries = 15g carbohydrates
4-6 packets splenda for sweetening
12 almonds = 10g fat
4 oz yam or sweet potato = 30g carbohydrates
2 tsp peanut butter or almond butter = 5g fat
4-6 packets splenda for sweetening

That is a LOT of food!

[mickapoo]

Cant download volume 1? says the pdf is broken

I only saw Volume I. Where can we d/l the other volumes?

[RUBICON19]

I only saw Volume I. Where can we d/l the other volumes?


www.scivationbooks.com

[mickapoo]

ohh im curious about this, where can i get ketostix,

Any drugstore that sells diabetic supplies such as Walgreens has ketostix.

[mickapoo]

cheese?

as fat/protein of course

Yes, why not? The Amer cheese I purchase has 4g protein, 0g carbs, 4g fat.

[RUBICON19]

Any drugstore that sells diabetic supplies such as Walgreens has ketostix.


Ketostix are unneccessary on the CD.

[RUBICON19]

Yes, why not? The Amer cheese I purchase has 4g protein, 0g carbs, 4g fat.

Cheese is not the best choice for this diet.

[Lando33]

I've read that, "We recommend obtaining your carbohydrates in every meal (not including the carbohydrate meal) from leafy green vegetables and grapefruit. " But then it says, "Stick to salads, fresh vegetables and healthy nuts and oils.". When it has the breakdown for my calories, it doesn't say anything about having grapefruit for every meal.

When the diet references that particular sentence, it refers to ALL carb sources. The Cut Diet with the exception of The Carb Meal requires you to obtain your carb sources from fiborous veggies and fruit such as grapefruit or blueberries. Meal structure for certain calorie counts can vary but for the most part they are very similar.

cool? :)

[Lando33]

Yes, why not? The Amer cheese I purchase has 4g protein, 0g carbs, 4g fat.

While there are plenty of food options with this diet, cheese is not one of them.

http://www.cutdiet.com/conversion.htm

[mickapoo]

I'm on a medication that prohibits me from taking Dialene, or any other fat burner with stimulants. Since Lipolyze is stimulant-free, would that be a good substitute for Dialene 4?

Does VasoCharge contain any stimulants such as caffeine? I searched the website but couldn't find if it did, or how much. Are there any other stimulants in VasoCharge?

Thanks!

[mickapoo]

Is it ok to substitute Primaforce Glutaform with just regular L-Glutamine?

[leadpipe]

I finally remembered to type up some questions I've been meaning to ask. I'm hoping you guys can help me out. I'm on the 3500 diet right now. 246 lbs mesomorph with high BF. Not competing, just want to drop the BF.

What would you suggest would be the best way I could track my BF%? I've been using AccuMeasure calipers (1 site) which put me at 24.1% but I had a PT give me a 3 point analysis and his gave me 17.7 +- 2%. That's not even close to the same!

To get it straight, the normal 2 hrs between meals is from end of one meal to first bite of the next?

The 3500 diet calls for 7 meals a day. I never seem to be able to get more then 5 in, maybe 6. Should I be redistributing the macros for the day into 5 meals or shorten the time between meals to say, 1.5 hours?

If 5 meals is ok, should carb up meal be every 4 days(21 meals)?

Is 7 days a week of cardio ok? 45 min, low intensity.

The book mentions a heart rate of 130-150 for low intensity but fat burn HR is 65% of 220 minus age (127 for me). Should I be aiming for at least HR 130? Should I be doing 150?

I know this is a serious, competition cut diet and should just be followed as written. However, I am curious as to how sensitive it is to disruption. An ounce of milk in your coffee or 1 bite of a friends fresh baked cookies, will that throw me off to much? How about 4 cookies? :( (I skipped carb meal that cycle)

Sorry for throwing this all out at once but I appreciate it guys.

Anyone?

[mickapoo]

I was under the impression that L-Glutamine was to be taken in replacement of a veggie if you had to. But on my 5th meal, 1200 diet, it has chicken, almonds, and broccoli, but it also adds in 5g of GlutaForm. Why is this?

And why Albacore tuna? Just curious.

Thanks for your help!

[mickapoo]

Cardio can be done at anytime

I'm wondering how the break up in cardio vs workout is going to affect my meal timing. Let's say I begin my workout at 6:00am. I have:

Meal 1: 8am
Meal 2: 10am
Meal 3: 1pm
Meal 4: 4pm
Meal 5: 7pm
Meal 6: 9:30pm

If I do my cardio at 9pm, how do I alter the timing of my meals to fit in with that? I do cardio from 9 to 9:45pm. I'm not sure how much time should lapse between meal 6 and my cardio session at 9.

And do I still sip Xtend during my cardio session at 9pm? So I have Xtend twice a day? Both during my a.m. workout and my p.m. cardio?

About the Xtend amount, the book states you should:
--Have 1 Serving Xtend 15 min pre-workout
--Sip 2-6 scoops of Xtend throughout your entire workout

But it says to calculate by lb, so I'm to take 20g of Xtend per workout (however many scoops that equals out to being), correct? And according to the book, do I also have 1 serving 15 min pre-workout?

Thanks for your help. Sorry for all the questions. If I'm going to do it, I want to do it right and get the most benefit out of it as I can.

[msauka]

I'm on a medication that prohibits me from taking Dialene, or any other fat burner with stimulants. Since Lipolyze is stimulant-free, would that be a good substitute for Dialene 4?

Does VasoCharge contain any stimulants such as caffeine? I searched the website but couldn't find if it did, or how much. Are there any other stimulants in VasoCharge?

Thanks!

The best stim free fat loss supplement is DS Lean Xtreme. My wife currently uses it.

VasoCharge do contain caffeine.


Is it ok to substitute Primaforce Glutaform with just regular L-Glutamine?

Yes, it is.

[mickapoo]

The best stim free fat loss supplement is DS Lean Xtreme. My wife currently uses it.

VasoCharge do contain caffeine.



Thanks!

[Scivation]

The best stim free fat loss supplement is DS Lean Xtreme. My wife currently uses it.

VasoCharge do contain caffeine.



Yes, it is.

The scientifically proven best non-stimulant fat loss is fish oil and GLA, as found in Scivation Essential FA. I would stack it with:

Scivation Sesamin
Primaforce Max CLA
Scivation Essential FA

[mickapoo]

Instead of Scivation whey, is it ok to use Body Fortress Advanced Protein Powder? I know it's a less expensive brand, but would that imply it's less effective? Not necessarily, Pls take a look at the ingredients and tell me if it's comparable. I have a whole tub of it, plus, it's a lot less expensive to purchase.

Body Fortress Advanced Whey Protein Powder (the advanced version has the BCAAs):

* 100% Premium Whey Protein
* Over 7 grams of BCAAs*
* Lean Mass Activators*
* Glutamine

* Body Fortress Super Advanced Whey Protein provides gold standard, cross-flow Whey Protein sources including Microfiltered Whey Protein Isolate and Ultrafiltered Whey Protein Concentrate.
* State of the Art manufacturing processes are used to retain the active Whey Protein Peptides and Microfractions that help deliver Whey's superior benefits.*
* Features a scientifically designed Super Recovery Blend to help you come back strong after your toughest workout.
* Premium Whey Proteins for easy mixing and complete dispersion in liquid.
* Quick absorbing blend to speed amino acid delivery to muscles immediately after workouts (to help stimulate muscle protein synthesis and recovery)*
* Contains naturally occurring Branched Chain Amino Acids
2 scoops contain over 7 grams of the following Branched Chain Amino Acids:
Which typically provide:
-Isoleucine ~ 2.0g
-Leucine ~ 3.8g
-Valine ~ 1.9g

Whey is the preferred protein source in sports and bodybuilding nutrition because it contains superior quality Branched Chain Amino Acids-made up of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine-which are important for the maintenance of muscle tissue.* Unlike some other imcomplete protein sources, Body Fortress Super Advances Whey Protein contains all of the essential amino acids required for supporting lean muscle and exercise recovery.*

* These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

Results may vary. Use in conjunction with an intense daily exercise program and a balanced diet including an adequate caloric intake.





Facts:
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 Scoops
Servings Per Container: about 14
Amount per Serving
Calories Total 210
from Fat 35

Total Fat 3.5 g
Sat Fat 2 g
Cholesterol 95 mg
Sodium 90 mg
Potassium 170 mg
Total Carb 4 g
Sugars 3 g
Protein 52 g

Vitamin A IU 0%
Vitamin C mg 0%
Calcium 245 mg
Phosphorus 168 mg
Magnesium 29 mg
Potassium 266 mg
Super Recovery Blend 18 g*
Creatine Monohdyrate
Taurine
Leucine
Isoleucine
Valine


So would this be acceptable as a substitute? Mainly I would only use it if I needed a meal replacement - with L-Glutamine and peanut butter.

Thanks!

[Scivation]

Instead of Scivation whey, is it ok to use Body Fortress Advanced Protein Powder? I know it's a less expensive brand, but would that imply it's less effective? Not necessarily, Pls take a look at the ingredients and tell me if it's comparable. I have a whole tub of it, plus, it's a lot less expensive to purchase.

Body Fortress Advanced Whey Protein Powder (the advanced version has the BCAAs):

* 100% Premium Whey Protein
* Over 7 grams of BCAAs*
* Lean Mass Activators*
* Glutamine

* Body Fortress Super Advanced Whey Protein provides gold standard, cross-flow Whey Protein sources including Microfiltered Whey Protein Isolate and Ultrafiltered Whey Protein Concentrate.
* State of the Art manufacturing processes are used to retain the active Whey Protein Peptides and Microfractions that help deliver Whey's superior benefits.*
* Features a scientifically designed Super Recovery Blend to help you come back strong after your toughest workout.
* Premium Whey Proteins for easy mixing and complete dispersion in liquid.
* Quick absorbing blend to speed amino acid delivery to muscles immediately after workouts (to help stimulate muscle protein synthesis and recovery)*
* Contains naturally occurring Branched Chain Amino Acids
2 scoops contain over 7 grams of the following Branched Chain Amino Acids:
Which typically provide:
-Isoleucine ~ 2.0g
-Leucine ~ 3.8g
-Valine ~ 1.9g

Whey is the preferred protein source in sports and bodybuilding nutrition because it contains superior quality Branched Chain Amino Acids-made up of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine-which are important for the maintenance of muscle tissue.* Unlike some other imcomplete protein sources, Body Fortress Super Advances Whey Protein contains all of the essential amino acids required for supporting lean muscle and exercise recovery.*

* These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

Results may vary. Use in conjunction with an intense daily exercise program and a balanced diet including an adequate caloric intake.





Facts:
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 Scoops
Servings Per Container: about 14
Amount per Serving
Calories Total 210
from Fat 35

Total Fat 3.5 g
Sat Fat 2 g
Cholesterol 95 mg
Sodium 90 mg
Potassium 170 mg
Total Carb 4 g
Sugars 3 g
Protein 52 g

Vitamin A IU 0%
Vitamin C mg 0%
Calcium 245 mg
Phosphorus 168 mg
Magnesium 29 mg
Potassium 266 mg
Super Recovery Blend 18 g*
Creatine Monohdyrate
Taurine
Leucine
Isoleucine
Valine


So would this be acceptable as a substitute? Mainly I would only use it if I needed a meal replacement - with L-Glutamine and peanut butter.

Thanks!

All I will say is that it never hurts to support the company that provides you with free diet and training. If we do not sell supplements, it will not endure.

But with that said, the price difference is very small and we test the hell out of ours to ensure it meets label claims.

Also, the carb count is too high at 4g. Scivation Whey only has 1g carb and 1g fat. This protein must have a lot of fillers in it.

[RUBICON19]

Instead of Scivation whey, is it ok to use Body Fortress Advanced Protein Powder? I know it's a less expensive brand, but would that imply it's less effective? Not necessarily, Pls take a look at the ingredients and tell me if it's comparable. I have a whole tub of it, plus, it's a lot less expensive to purchase.

Body Fortress Advanced Whey Protein Powder (the advanced version has the BCAAs):

* 100% Premium Whey Protein
* Over 7 grams of BCAAs*
* Lean Mass Activators*
* Glutamine

* Body Fortress Super Advanced Whey Protein provides gold standard, cross-flow Whey Protein sources including Microfiltered Whey Protein Isolate and Ultrafiltered Whey Protein Concentrate.
* State of the Art manufacturing processes are used to retain the active Whey Protein Peptides and Microfractions that help deliver Whey's superior benefits.*
* Features a scientifically designed Super Recovery Blend to help you come back strong after your toughest workout.
* Premium Whey Proteins for easy mixing and complete dispersion in liquid.
* Quick absorbing blend to speed amino acid delivery to muscles immediately after workouts (to help stimulate muscle protein synthesis and recovery)*
* Contains naturally occurring Branched Chain Amino Acids
2 scoops contain over 7 grams of the following Branched Chain Amino Acids:
Which typically provide:
-Isoleucine ~ 2.0g
-Leucine ~ 3.8g
-Valine ~ 1.9g

Whey is the preferred protein source in sports and bodybuilding nutrition because it contains superior quality Branched Chain Amino Acids-made up of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine-which are important for the maintenance of muscle tissue.* Unlike some other imcomplete protein sources, Body Fortress Super Advances Whey Protein contains all of the essential amino acids required for supporting lean muscle and exercise recovery.*

* These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

Results may vary. Use in conjunction with an intense daily exercise program and a balanced diet including an adequate caloric intake.





Facts:
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 Scoops
Servings Per Container: about 14
Amount per Serving
Calories Total 210
from Fat 35

Total Fat 3.5 g
Sat Fat 2 g
Cholesterol 95 mg
Sodium 90 mg
Potassium 170 mg
Total Carb 4 g
Sugars 3 g
Protein 52 g

Vitamin A IU 0%
Vitamin C mg 0%
Calcium 245 mg
Phosphorus 168 mg
Magnesium 29 mg
Potassium 266 mg
Super Recovery Blend 18 g*
Creatine Monohdyrate
Taurine
Leucine
Isoleucine
Valine


So would this be acceptable as a substitute? Mainly I would only use it if I needed a meal replacement - with L-Glutamine and peanut butter.

Thanks!


4 Grams of carbs from sugar. NO GOOD! Scivation whey is VERY reasonably priced and the quality says it all!

[RUBICON19]

I'm wondering how the break up in cardio vs workout is going to affect my meal timing. Let's say I begin my workout at 6:00am. I have:

Meal 1: 8am
Meal 2: 10am
Meal 3: 1pm
Meal 4: 4pm
Meal 5: 7pm
Meal 6: 9:30pm

If I do my cardio at 9pm, how do I alter the timing of my meals to fit in with that? I do cardio from 9 to 9:45pm. I'm not sure how much time should lapse between meal 6 and my cardio session at 9.

And do I still sip Xtend during my cardio session at 9pm? So I have Xtend twice a day? Both during my a.m. workout and my p.m. cardio?

About the Xtend amount, the book states you should:
--Have 1 Serving Xtend 15 min pre-workout
--Sip 2-6 scoops of Xtend throughout your entire workout

But it says to calculate by lb, so I'm to take 20g of Xtend per workout (however many scoops that equals out to being), correct? And according to the book, do I also have 1 serving 15 min pre-workout?

Thanks for your help. Sorry for all the questions. If I'm going to do it, I want to do it right and get the most benefit out of it as I can.


Meal 1) 8:00
Meal 2) 10:00
Meal 3) 12:30
Meal 4) 3:00
Meal 5) 5:30
Meal 6) 7:30/8:00

Yes. Sip Xtend during both and any workouts.

Just use the weight chart on the container for correct amount. Put it in a bottle and begin sipping before training, through training.

NP. anytime

[msauka]

The scientifically proven best non-stimulant fat loss is fish oil and GLA, as found in Scivation Essential FA. I would stack it with:

Scivation Sesamin
Primaforce Max CLA
Scivation Essential FA
Yes, of course, my fault.

[mickapoo]

All I will say is that it never hurts to support the company that provides you with free diet and training. If we do not sell supplements, it will not endure.



You're absolutely right. I didn't think of it that way. Will def take your advice. Thanks!

[mickapoo]

The book states to make sure to account for the fat in proteins such as salmon and steak, because of their high fat content. BUT Steak isn't on the list of proteins recommended. So, in that case, are other proteins not on the list, such as ham, or bacon acceptable, as long as we account for the fat content? I've had ham that is lot leaner than steak, even the leanest cut.

Thanks

[mickapoo]

The scientifically proven best non-stimulant fat loss is fish oil and GLA, as found in Scivation Essential FA. I would stack it with:

Scivation Sesamin
Primaforce Max CLA
Scivation Essential FA

Do any of those cause an increase in heart rate or blood pressure? I've taken CLA without any trouble but it was Tonalin.

Also, the only fruit we can have would be grapefruit or blueberries, not any of those others that are listed on the alkaline food list, correct?

Thanks again for all of your help.

[RUBICON19]

The book states to make sure to account for the fat in proteins such as salmon and steak, because of their high fat content. BUT Steak isn't on the list of proteins recommended. So, in that case, are other proteins not on the list, such as ham, or bacon acceptable, as long as we account for the fat content? I've had ham that is lot leaner than steak, even the leanest cut.

Thanks


Steak is on the list. Thats what lean sirloin is..

Pretty much "NO" to the others you listed

[RUBICON19]

Do any of those cause an increase in heart rate or blood pressure? I've taken CLA without any trouble but it was Tomalin.

Also, the only fruit we can have would be grapefruit or blueberries, not any of those others that are listed on the alkaline food list, correct?

Thanks again for all of your help.

Correct.

[mickapoo]

Steak is on the list. Thats what lean sirloin is..

Pretty much "NO" to the others you listed

So is "lean sirloin" the same thing as "lean ground sirloin 90/10"?

And if we're counting fat grams in our steak & salmon protein sources, what about other foods such as peanut butter... we don't count the carbs there, only fat? And we count the fat in a whole egg, not just the protein. It's kind of confusing to discern what macronutrients we account for in any one food item.

Just curious... but why albacore instead of light tuna?

[RUBICON19]

So is "lean sirloin" the same thing as "lean ground sirloin 90/10"?

And if we're counting fat grams in our steak & salmon protein sources, what about other foods such as peanut butter... we don't count the carbs there, only fat? And we count the fat in a whole egg, not just the protein. It's kind of confusing to discern what macronutrients we account for in any one food item.

Just curious... but why albacore instead of light tuna?

Sirloin is actually a cut of steak. If you want to use ground than go for 93/7 and calculate the fat in it towards meal totals.

Yes, you are correct, we do not count the carbs in PB.

Yes, we do count the fat in the whole egg.

Fats are always counted for fats
Carbs are only counted from fruits or veggies
Protein is only counted from lean protein sources. If it has a face or once came from something with a face.. And, NO, Mr Peanut doesnt count.


Just follow one of the diets straight oit of the book, then there is no worries about all this nitty gritty stuff. Start at one calorie level and slowly lower to another over time. Its pretty much all written out right there.

[msauka]

Do any of those cause an increase in heart rate or blood pressure? I've taken CLA without any trouble but it was Tomalin.


Healthy fats helps to lower blood pressure.

[mickapoo]

Sirloin is actually a cut of steak. If you want to use ground than go for 93/7 and calculate the fat in it towards meal totals.

Yes, you are correct, we do not count the carbs in PB.

Yes, we do count the fat in the whole egg.

Fats are always counted for fats
Carbs are only counted from fruits or veggies
Protein is only counted from lean protein sources. If it has a face or once came from something with a face.. And, NO, Mr Peanut doesnt count.


Just follow one of the diets straight oit of the book, then there is no worries about all this nitty gritty stuff. Start at one calorie level and slowly lower to another over time. Its pretty much all written out right there.

Thanks for your help. I overanalyze everything to death so this is no different! And I'm also a perfectionist and if I'm going to do it I want to do it right. I know I'll get tired of always eating the written out example menus, so I wanted to be able to choose from the other options. But the book stating that we have to count the fat content from a protein source made me curious. So we don't just count the fat in salmon, steak, and eggs, but in all proteins such as lean turkey breast? Or just the higher fat proteins?

[Lando33]

Thanks for your help. I overanalyze everything to death so this is no different! And I'm also a perfectionist and if I'm going to do it I want to do it right. I know I'll get tired of always eating the written out example menus, so I wanted to be able to choose from the other options. But the book stating that we have to count the fat content from a protein source made me curious. So we don't just count the fat in salmon, steak, and eggs, but in all proteins such as lean turkey breast? Or just the higher fat proteins?

Count the fat from:
Steak, whole eggs, salmon and all other meats with higher fat

DO NOT Count the fat from:
Eggs whites
chicken breast
lean turkey breast

It may be easier for you to write out a meal plan and then we can see if you get the basics down.

[vgalvan18]

In all the diets above 2000, the grapefruit is in the 6th meal. The Chart for the 2000 meal plan shows it in the 6th meal too, but the actual diet plan says to eat it at meal 5. What should I do? If I do eat the GF at Meal 5, would I eat it again with the carb meal?

[Lando33]

In all the diets above 2000, the grapefruit is in the 6th meal. The Chart for the 2000 meal plan shows it in the 6th meal too, but the actual diet plan says to eat it at meal 5. What should I do? If I do eat the GF at Meal 5, would I eat it again with the carb meal?

eat it with the 6th meal on non-carb nights.

On carb nights, eat it with the 5th meal and eat the carb meal as perscribed. If you following the most current version of the book - Volume #4 - then you can have blueberries or grapfruit as your fruit source.

[mickapoo]

Can somebody explain cable pull downs? I thought you meant the straight arm pull downs like stand in front of the station and keep your arms straight press down, bring back to about eye level repeat



Correct, kinda like a DB pullover (when lying on bench)

Is it ok to substitute the cable pull downs for DB pullovers?

[RUBICON19]

Is it ok to substitute the cable pull downs for DB pullovers?


You can use any workout routine you like.

[mickapoo]

If you gain, increase cardio and if you lose too fast, raise calories.

Losing more than 1-2 lbs/week would be the point where you raise calories, right?

Thanks

[mickapoo]

Go to failure at every set or just the last?

Thanks :)

[rockeo]

Go to failure at every set or just the last?

Thanks :)

did u start any of scivation's plans yet ??
and if not u should deff start one , this way u could learn as u go - it sure is an Awesome adventure :D!

[cjackway]

Losing more than 1-2 lbs/week would be the point where you raise calories, right?

Thanks

Don't let pounds dictate your course of action within reason. I say that because the diet is designed to convert you to a different form of energy expenditure. You are likely to have fluctuations of greater than 1-2 pounds/week as your body adjusts. Water is a big variable as well. Remember 1 gallon of water weighs approx 8 pounds and people water weight will vary. Increase calories slowly once you reach your ideal size/weight.
You do over analyze don't you? Glad to know I'm not alone.

[mickapoo]

did u start any of scivation's plans yet ??
and if not u should deff start one , this way u could learn as u go - it sure is an Awesome adventure :D!

Just starting The CD now. First day today. I'm already psyched from reading about other people's results!

[mickapoo]

Don't let pounds dictate your course of action within reason. I say that because the diet is designed to convert you to a different form of energy expenditure. You are likely to have fluctuations of greater than 1-2 pounds/week as your body adjusts. Water is a big variable as well. Remember 1 gallon of water weighs approx 8 pounds and people water weight will vary. Increase calories slowly once you reach your ideal size/weight.
You do over analyze don't you? Glad to know I'm not alone.

Thanks for the advice. Just going by something I had read in an earlier post about not losing pounds too quickly. I thought that might be a sign of muscle loss.

Overanalyze? Who? Me? Nahhhhh... :) I guess I see it in black and white. You either know every detail or you wing it. I really don't want to wing it.

[Lando33]

Overanalyze? Who? Me? Nahhhhh... :) I guess I see it in black and white. You either know every detail or you wing it. I really don't want to wing it.

Yes, but what you also have to realize is that diet and weightloss is a GRAY area. By this, I mean that different things work for different people. You will also be forced to make changes as you go.

This is why we offer Team Scivation (our FREE diet and training service). We help you along the way and tweak the diet to fit your goals. Even if we don't tweak the diet from the start, having someone help you with your progress is a huge advantage to have.

[mickapoo]

Yes, but what you also have to realize is that diet and weightloss is a GRAY area. By this, I mean that different things work for different people. You will also be forced to make changes as you go.

This is why we offer Team Scivation (our FREE diet and training service). We help you along the way and tweak the diet to fit your goals. Even if we don't tweak the diet from the start, having someone help you with your progress is a huge advantage to have.

Thanks Rob, appreciate the help.

[Lando33]

Thanks Rob, appreciate the help.

anytime! :)

[mickapoo]

anytime! :)

Just curious what your opinion is... it seems to vary here on other boards. Do you go to failure on only the last set?

[Lando33]

Just curious what your opinion is... it seems to vary here on other boards. Do you go to failure on only the last set?

how many sets are you currently doing? What exercises are we talking about ?

[mickapoo]

how many sets are you currently doing? What exercises are we talking about ?

I just started the CD diet yesterday, and I'm going by the workout plan in the book. Leg and ab workout A today:

Week 1: 15, 12 WORKOUT A

Wide stance ATG Squats
Romanian DLs
Single leg squats (instead of the leg extensions- these make my quads bulk up tremendously)
Leg curls

Abs

Two sets doesn't seem very much, but I'm following the book :) I'm also focusing on neg reps. Do you think the rest-pause method would be more effective than the peak pyramid training?

Thanks

[mickapoo]

This was what I had for my first meal of the day today - I noticed flax on the alkaline list near the front of the book, figured it was ok...

1 scoop whey: 28g
2 large egg whites: 7g
Grapefruit 6.5 oz (15g carbs) & celery 8.5 oz (10g carbs): 25g
5 tbsp flax seed: 10g

35/25/10

Had to add some celery in there. The 6.5oz of grapefruit is all I could handle. Is the menu above cool to eat? I mix the egg whites, flax, and whey, cook in a pan and make a flax pancake. I put cinnamon and a tiny bit of Splenda. I also put Splenda on my grapefruit (maybe 1 tsp?)

[mickapoo]

Don't put down overanalyzing because this really is true! :) There's a discrepancy between what the grid states and what the sample menu states should be your macros for 1200 cal diet on MEAL 2:

On the GRID
Meal 2: 32g protein / 5g carbs / 5g fats

On the sample menu
Meal 2: 35g protein / 5g carbs / 10g fats

It's showing both as the same total (151g protein / 50g carbs / 45g fat), but it was calculated incorrectly.

Actual totals:

Grid: 151 g protein / 50 g carbs / 45g fat = 1209 cal
Sample menu: 154g protein / 50g carbs / 50g fat = 1266 cal

That's a significant difference IMO in addition to being an inconsistency in the book :)

So given the calories I take it meal 2 should be 32/5/5?

Thanks!!!

[NC_Tarheel]

Instead of Scivation whey, is it ok to use Body Fortress Advanced Protein Powder? I know it's a less expensive brand, but would that imply it's less effective? Not necessarily, Pls take a look at the ingredients and tell me if it's comparable. I have a whole tub of it, plus, it's a lot less expensive to purchase.

Actually it is more expensive than Scivation whey. A 2 lb jug of Wal Mart whey w/ tax included is over $15.

BB.com pricematches and I have seen 10 lb Scivation chocolate whey on the internet for $57.

Include the $5 for shipping and that's $62 for 10lbs OR $12.40 for 2 lbs of premium whey

[mickapoo]

Actually it is more expensive than Scivation whey. A 2 lb jug of Wal Mart whey w/ tax included is over $15.

BB.com pricematches and I have seen 10 lb Scivation chocolate whey on the internet for $57.

Include the $5 for shipping and that's $62 for 10lbs OR $12.40 for 2 lbs of premium whey

I didn't know that, thanks for the head's up. I guess always assuming Wal-Mart has the lowest prices isn't always the case. Plus I'm sure Scivation makes a better product, and I do want to support them (god knows Wal-Mart doesn't need it).

[getnfit2007]

reactions?

Is there anything in Dialene4 that could cause a rash to break out?

[Scivation]

reactions?

Is there anything in Dialene4 that could cause a rash to break out?

In Dialene 4x, not that would be "normal".

[cjackway]

reactions?

Is there anything in Dialene4 that could cause a rash to break out?

If you're taking Dialene 4 and not 4x, then you could be sensitive to the Niacin. It can make you red,feel flushed, and give a rash. If you're takling 4x, then there's nothing that I can come up with.

[cjackway]

Don't put down overanalyzing because this really is true! :) There's a discrepancy between what the grid states and what the sample menu states should be your macros for 1200 cal diet on MEAL 2:

On the GRID
Meal 2: 32g protein / 5g carbs / 5g fats

On the sample menu
Meal 2: 35g protein / 5g carbs / 10g fats

It's showing both as the same total (151g protein / 50g carbs / 45g fat), but it was calculated incorrectly.

Actual totals:

Grid: 151 g protein / 50 g carbs / 45g fat = 1209 cal
Sample menu: 154g protein / 50g carbs / 50g fat = 1266 cal

That's a significant difference IMO in addition to being an inconsistency in the book :)

So given the calories I take it meal 2 should be 32/5/5?

Thanks!!!

Mick,
I was waiting to see if you'd catch that. I did the same thing when I dropped to that calorie level for my show. I tried it both ways and discovered my body liked the 32/5/10 on the second meal. Great catch.

[getnfit2007]

If you're taking Dialene 4 and not 4x, then you could be sensitive to the Niacin. It can make you red,feel flushed, and give a rash. If you're takling 4x, then there's nothing that I can come up with.

Ok...its 4X im ordering next week. Thank you Cjack

[Shark76]

Hey there, just wondering if its ok to exchange oats for quinoa or brown rice in the carb meal ??
Also if you need a cheat meal, do you have it instead of one carb meal ??

Thanks