Dedicatedforlif's Unique Nutrition Sulbutiamine Log

[Dedicatedforlife]

First off, thanks to Steve and the whole team at Unique Nutrition for letting me for letting me try out this product.

First a little description of the product...

Unique Nutrition Presents:
Sulbutiamine
Neuro-Enhanced Thiamine!

Clinically Shown To Support Wakefulness And Long Term Memory!
Sulbutiamine (isobutyrylthiamine disulfide) is a novel fat soluble derivative of vitamin B-1 (thiamine) that rapidly and quickly crosses the blood-brain barrier. Developed by the amazing French pharmaceutical company Servier under the name Arcalion for mental and physical exhaustion. It has been shown to promote wakefulness, anti fatigue, long-term memory, improve response to stress, and have a positive effect on mood.

Neurochemical Effects

Enhances working and episodic memory (through NDMA modulation)
Acts on the nervous structures responsible for physical activity, attention, and wakefulness
Helps tired organs to recover its mental and physical capacities
Improves motor coordination and resistance to muscular fatigue and awakening state

You can order this directly off the bb.com website...http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/un...butiamine.html

[Dedicatedforlife]

First a little bit about me...

I've been doing this hobby for a little bit of time now...

www.bodybuilding.com/fun/other3.htm

Lot's of time to try different supplements from creatines, to proteins to energy enhancers.

I am a student taking Mechanical Engineering and currently doing an internship/co-op position at an Optics Company. This is quite the challenge for me as it takes me 2 hours to get to work. (I don't have a car so I take the bus, train and subway). So that's 4 hours everyday! Then I work 9-10 hour days, which turns into about 14 hours a day. Coming home I stop off at the gym to do my workout...which isn't always the prettiest of scenes when I'm exhaused from work...

So I am hoping that Sulbutiamine will give me the boost I need to get me through my day both at work and at the gym.

Due to the fact that I am a student and my current work schedule I have used a number of stimulants.

Preworkout and Energy Boosters I have used:

ECA Stack
Ergopharm AMP
ISS Satur8
Green Tea
Nutrex Lipo 6
Controlled Labs White Flood
iSatori Lean System 7
Twinlab Ripped Fuel Ephedra Free

As well as some other products...So I have my far share of experience using stims. And therefore I do not think that the recommended 1 capsule will be enough for me, rather I believe that 2 will be the dose I will need.


My Stats Right Now are as follows:

Height: 6'2"
Weight: 220 lbs
Bodyfat: 9.5%

Haven't done measurements in awhile, but I plan on doing them this week...

[Dedicatedforlife]

I took my first dose yesterday (Sunday), but wasn't near a computer, so I will update yesterday and todays.

So first dose. 1 Caspsule (300mg). Took this in the morning as I had a lot of things to do around the house (mow the lawn, clean etc.)...Wasn't really sure how long it would take to kick in so I was patient....1 hour, nothing...2 hours, nothing...3 hours, nothing....clearly something was not working. So I decided that about 6 hours later it was worth another dose. I am not sure if I need to "load" this supplement, as it may take a few capsules for my body to readily absorb the "drug". So I took another capsule...and well same result, didn't feel anything from it.

Exactly like I thought I will need to take 2 capsules to feel an effect.
I am currently at work (8:40am), going to take my 2 capsules now and I will update my results later on :).

[Free Weight Friedel]

Remember to take this with a meal or snack that contains fat.

I just took my first one with breakfast, which contained 21g fat. No effects as of yet.

EDIT: Subbed and great start to the log!

[Dedicatedforlife]

Remember to take this with a meal or snack that contains fat.

I just took my first one with breakfast, which contained 21g fat. No effects as of yet.

EDIT: Subbed and great start to the log!

Hey thanks, And yup I took it with 2 whole eggs.

[Dedicatedforlife]

So after my first dose at 2 capsules this morning I "think" I felt something...I am not sure really, might have been just a placebo effect...but I felt more alert. I was able to concentrate a tad better in the lab while doing some tests, but again it's too soon to tell if anything is working yet.

[Dedicatedforlife]

Took 2 caps in the afternoon at about 3pm yesterday with my chicken/sweet potato/almond butter meal.

I am starting to notice something....

My workout was not different, same energy levels like always and no difference in fatigue.

However, I usually crash afterwards when I get home or just sit around and watch tv or go on bb.com :p. But, I was actually able to go out with some buddies for a bit, mind you that didn't last long, but it was a change from the usual crash.

I am told that Sulbutiamine is long term supplement, in which I think the effects/results will come with time.
Also I have been told that sleep usually improves with Sulbutiamine. I will report whatever finding I have with improvements in the days to come. :cool:

[CognitiveNutrition]

Took 2 caps in the afternoon at about 3pm yesterday with my chicken/sweet potato/almond butter meal.

I am starting to notice something....

My workout was not different, same energy levels like always and no difference in fatigue.

However, I usually crash afterwards when I get home or just sit around and watch tv or go on bb.com :p. But, I was actually able to go out with some buddies for a bit, mind you that didn't last long, but it was a change from the usual crash.

I am told that Sulbutiamine is long term supplement, in which I think the effects/results will come with time.
Also I have been told that sleep usually improves with Sulbutiamine. I will report whatever finding I have with improvements in the days to come. :cool:

Well you have a month's supply should be enough time to see whatever changes take place! Since the half life is about 5 hours perhaps 1 cap in the morning and one in the afternoon is a good idea.

[Dedicatedforlife]

Well you have a month's supply should be enough time to see whatever changes take place! Since the half life is about 5 hours perhaps 1 cap in the morning and one in the afternoon is a good idea.

Sounds like a plan. Steve one question, would you refrain from using other stims? Like I usually took an ECA stack in the morning to get me going...any ideas?

[CognitiveNutrition]

Sounds like a plan. Steve one question, would you refrain from using other stims? Like I usually took an ECA stack in the morning to get me going...any ideas?

Ideally because it may completely overwhelm any of sulbutiamine's effects. But if you are a perceptive person you may be able to tell anyway.

[Dedicatedforlife]

Ideally because it may completely overwhelm any of sulbutiamine's effects. But if you are a perceptive person you may be able to tell anyway.

Yeah I def. will be able too if something is different. I've been taking some sort of energy boost in the morning for a good number of years now, so anything different in my system, then i will definetly notice...I will experiment accordingly...

[Dedicatedforlife]

Yesterday I noticed a slight improvement in how my energy levels were consistant. I had to work 5 hours overtime (14.5 hours total)...and suprisingly I had enough energy to last me through the entire time. I was able to concentrate and just do what I needed to do. I think more over it helped with my stress levels last night as I was under a deadline to finish some things.

Due to the fact of staying really late, and having to come into work early again I was not able to go to the gym because I need my 5 hours of sleep :p.

I'm liking what Sulbutiamine is doing for me. I am going to do as Steve advised and take 2 caps a day, one in the morning and another in the evening...i'll see how things go for a week. Like I said earlier, it is way to early to know if things are actually working....

[Dedicatedforlife]

Yesterday was a long day.....the morning after my first dose was tiring, however that would be due to the lack of sleep. However my stress levels at work were low, even though I had my boss on my ass all day. :cool:

The afternoon's dose helped out a lot I would say. Firstly I got through the rest of my day at work with little fatigue (which is unusual). Second, when I woke up in the morning after having little sleep I thought that the gym was out of the question today. However, by the time I left work I felt like I was ready for a workout.

Workout went very well, as I was able to concentrate one every set without focusing on my fatigue that was setting in exponentially. Although the lifts weren't as good as I was hoping, I can only blame that on my lack of sleep and amount of work I have had this week...

[CognitiveNutrition]

Yesterday was a long day.....the morning after my first dose was tiring, however that would be due to the lack of sleep. However my stress levels at work were low, even though I had my boss on my ass all day. :cool:

The afternoon's dose helped out a lot I would say. Firstly I got through the rest of my day at work with little fatigue (which is unusual). Second, when I woke up in the morning after having little sleep I thought that the gym was out of the question today. However, by the time I left work I felt like I was ready for a workout.

Workout went very well, as I was able to concentrate one every set without focusing on my fatigue that was setting in exponentially. Although the lifts weren't as good as I was hoping, I can only blame that on my lack of sleep and amount of work I have had this week...

Hmm maybe 3 caps daily. If you don't get headaches.

[Dedicatedforlife]

Productivity was up yesterday at work throughout the day. Have a lot of deadlines this week, so the workload is huge.

Workout went well. Just did Bi's and Tri's, which has never been a problem to get through, as it's always fun seeing "The Pump" :cool:.

I am going to up my dosage today to 3 tabs. 2 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon. I can really see that this supplement is only good taken in the long run, you have to stay regular with your doses to built it up in your system. I'm hoping that next week I have some definate results/answers. :D

[CognitiveNutrition]

Just an FYI:

M&M logger:

"Today I took 1.2g, and I must say this is the best dosage yet. I had more energy and a boost in my work ethic about 20 mins after taking. All the effects from the other doses are there, yet more pronounced. It is now 6 hours later and I still feel pretty energized (good thing too, I have to work in an hour or two). "

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=29553

[Dedicatedforlife]

Just an FYI:

M&M logger:

"Today I took 1.2g, and I must say this is the best dosage yet. I had more energy and a boost in my work ethic about 20 mins after taking. All the effects from the other doses are there, yet more pronounced. It is now 6 hours later and I still feel pretty energized (good thing too, I have to work in an hour or two). "

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=29553

Thanks for the info Steve! I will definetly give that a try becaue so far I am doing 2 caps/1 cap dosages, morning and afternoon respectively, and I've only felt minor effects. I mean it's clearly working, but not working amazingly like from the quote above. I will try 4 caps next time. Thanks.

[Dedicatedforlife]

ATTENTION ATTENTION! BIG IMPROVEMENT!

Okay first of all, sorry for not updating during the weekend...but here's the scoop....

Friday went by without a change really...no real improvements to fatigue or getting through my day with more consistant energy. In fact I needed an extra cup of coffee....

Saturday I kept the dosage the same simply because I was thinking that Sulbutiamine needs to build up inside your system...I was able to get through my day with no problems, but that was largely due to the fact I finally had enough sleep...

Now....Sunday, Steve told me informed of a higher dosage being more effective...so I tried THREE caps in the Morning and TWO caps in the afternoon...the was a big improvement! An hour after taking the first dose I was alert and ready to do a bunch of activities that I had planned for the day. I wasn't fatigued at all throughout the day. I could tell the dosage was starting to wear off a big in the afternoon, so that's when I took my second dosage of 2 caps. This was enough to get me through my day. :cool:

Now three caps were all fine and dandy, but the article that Steve provided explained that a user took FOUR caps to see the most improvements...so that's what I took this morning...that was 2 hours ago...and I feel GREATTTTT!! Had about four hours of sleep, but I just feel happy and ready to work. I'm ready to get right into what I need to do today and hopefully there will not be any onset of fatigue :D.

[Apostle X]

so you just took 1.5g of Sulbutiamine? Impressive, I will be taking 3 caps shortly.

Just exactly how much fat are you taking in when taking the SULB? I will usually take it with 4 or more eggs (around 20g fat).

I agree with the minimal effects of 2 caps daily. I never really noticed an increase of energy, but I did notice it did not fade. Hopefully with the increased dosage I will actually feel the energy! Nice log btw

[Dedicatedforlife]

so you just took 1.5g of Sulbutiamine? Impressive, I will be taking 3 caps shortly.

Just exactly how much fat are you taking in when taking the SULB? I will usually take it with 4 or more eggs (around 20g fat).

I agree with the minimal effects of 2 caps daily. I never really noticed an increase of energy, but I did notice it did not fade. Hopefully with the increased dosage I will actually feel the energy! Nice log btw

Thanks! I take in 2 whole eggs, 1 tsp of sesamin oil, 1 tsp of flax oil, and some sunflower dark rye bread. The four caps are doing me awesome right now! I hope it lasts, might need another dose in the afternoon. I'll keep you posted!

[MegaPump]

Guys taking in such high fat content, is it really needed? I dont think it is. Iv also been taking Sulbutamine for days and my results have been very positive. As far as dosage I tool 1 on the first day, then two at a time for the next two days. Today however I took 1 dose twice in the day along with Ginkgo biloba, B complex, fish oil, st johns wart and a fat burner containing synepherine. The first dose was with the above and a multi instead of the B complex.

I honestly think it takes a couple days to build up and today was fantastic. I would recomend 300mg twice daily after eating a normal meal with some fat or little oil like drained canned tuna for example. My energy and brain function has been way up today and iv been witty and quick with my humor. I seem to find the words just come out and im more focused. The story is great and will be in my log tommorow.

Good luck guys and heads up because I honestly think Sulbutiamine works. I hope to get a nice effect with one 300mg dose but am enjoying the 600mg per day too much to try just yet.

[CognitiveNutrition]

High doses really seem to put it into overdrive!

"Ramped it up to 1.2g of sulbutiamine this morning. Didn't feel too much but about an hour later I realized that I was totally wide eyed, awake, alert, etc. I didn't feel overstimulated, just supremely alert. Very focuses on completing tasks right now, which is a good thing. The effect is still very pronounced and its 4 hours later now. I like this dose! "

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=29455&pid=412644&st=0&#entry412644

[Dedicatedforlife]

ATTENTION: 1.2 Grams and your CRUISIN...

Okay so yesterday was by far my best day on Sulbutamine. I took 1.2 grams in the morning, and 600mg in the afternoon. I felt great in the morning, had so much energy and motivation to do a lot of work, and a lot of work I have right now...lol.
I had no fatigue at all up until about 1pm (I took my first dose at 5am), after which I took another 2 tabs (600mg) which helped me get through till 5pm. My work requires a lot of designing and calculations...and therefore my mind needs to be focused on the task at hand all the time. Sulbutamine is definetly making my day more productive.

The Gym (at my house right now because my actual Gym has closed down :() was Adequate, however I noticed that I became fatigued much quicker than I would like. My lifts were just as good as always, but I didn't feel like I had the energy or motivation to keep going and going. And therefore today i am going to try 1.2 grams in the morning (already took this dose, feels great) and 900mg in the afternoon.

I have noticed that I am having a lot of trouble getting up in the morning though....as I am having a very deep and restful sleep. This is great, however I am not a pleasant person the first hour of the day :D.....

[Dedicatedforlife]

ALL I CAN SAY IS I FOUND THE ULTIMATE DOSE!!!

First I will just that yesterday was my best day on this supplement BY FAR. The morning went by so smoothly, no fatigue, full alert, in a good mood, ready to work. Then in the afternoon after the second dosage the trend continued. I seriously didn't even see the time fly by, and usually it goes at a snail's pace....Wow, all I can say is this stuff rocks!!! I already know that after I am done this bottle I am going to order another one. :D

Now I am a pretty big stimulant user, largely due to the fact that I am a university student and I leave everything till the last minute, hence forth little sleep. Saying that I think that there are a lot of people in the same boat...there the following is what I am recommending for the above average stimulant user:

Morning - 4 caps (1200 mg)

About 6-8 hours later.....

Afternoon - 3 caps (900 mg)

This dosage seams to give you consistent energy throughout the day with little to no fatigue....:cool:

I hope that this trend will continue for the rest of the week :D.

[CognitiveNutrition]

ALL I CAN SAY IS I FOUND THE ULTIMATE DOSE!!!

First I will just that yesterday was my best day on this supplement BY FAR. The morning went by so smoothly, no fatigue, full alert, in a good mood, ready to work. Then in the afternoon after the second dosage the trend continued. I seriously didn't even see the time fly by, and usually it goes at a snail's pace....Wow, all I can say is this stuff rocks!!! I already know that after I am done this bottle I am going to order another one. :D

Now I am a pretty big stimulant user, largely due to the fact that I am a university student and I leave everything till the last minute, hence forth little sleep. Saying that I think that there are a lot of people in the same boat...there the following is what I am recommending for the above average stimulant user:

Morning - 4 caps (1200 mg)

About 6-8 hours later.....

Afternoon - 3 caps (900 mg)

This dosage seams to give you consistent energy throughout the day with little to no fatigue....:cool:

I hope that this trend will continue for the rest of the week :D.

LOL I think you found the dose that it becomes addictive at.

[Dedicatedforlife]

LOL I think you found the dose that it becomes addictive at.

Clearly that's what you want :D....More addicts, more products sold....:cool:

[canes0629]

sounds cool but do you think you need to take it every day to get the benefit from from 1.2 grams. it just wouldnt last long.

[Dedicatedforlife]

sounds cool but do you think you need to take it every day to get the benefit from from 1.2 grams. it just wouldnt last long.

That would depend from person to person. Personally I am trying this product to see at what dosage I get the maximum benifits...I'm sure everyone will react in different ways...

[MegaPump]

My log is now up http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3755681

[Dedicatedforlife]

Okay so I've taken a few days off to see what would happen...just as a test.

First Day Off...on Thursday....didn't really notice a difference, I did up the caffinee a little bit, but not much....

However, Yesterday (friday), I was dying!!! Man I really felt the drop in energy, my fatigue went WAYYYYYYY up. I didn't want to do ANYTHING all day...man this stuff is going to be addictive...hahaha. It's definetly a great product....

Today I am going to start the doses again to see what immediate effects I feel....

[MegaPump]

Yeah bro I took yesterday off and I feel the differnce too. There is a mental energy drop and a physical one but iv also worked 8 days straight. I notice the differnce just reading and making posts here last night. Ill be taking today off and back on tommorow. Iv really only done it to stay responive to it, then again I dont even know if thats required. Would be good if Sulbutiamine came in bulk powder from Unique Nutrition especially for you who takes higher doses.

[Dedicatedforlife]

Well this morning was my last dose :(....

This is one supplement that I will definetly be buying in the future as I can see that it will greatly benifit me in all aspects of life. My productivity at work has increased dramatically over the past 2 weeks. My energy levels are much more consistant, which makes me feel just great all around.

I am not sure if Steve really wanted me to take the dosage up to the level that I did, but the articles that he attached made me try it :D.
Therefore my suggestion for Unique Nutrition is too either make a 600 mg capsule (as I think 2 caps is going to be minimum anyways), or make a larger packaging of more caps (like 200).

I think this product will go over very well with anyone that is looking for consistant energy or experiences fatigue on a daily basis.

Like I said before, this supplement is worth every penny, and I know that Unique Nutrition gives you quality. I would like to thank Steve and everyone at UN for the opportunity to test out this product, and I hope they ask me to review other products in the future :D.

Thanks again, and ask me any questions that you may have!

[Dedicatedforlife]

Just wanted to give a quick update on that fact that my mood is better than it has been in a longggggg time. I give credit to Sulbutiamine and I recommend that anyone that has had trouble with depression or just terrible moods, give this supplement a go!

[CognitiveNutrition]

Well this morning was my last dose :(....

This is one supplement that I will definetly be buying in the future as I can see that it will greatly benifit me in all aspects of life. My productivity at work has increased dramatically over the past 2 weeks. My energy levels are much more consistant, which makes me feel just great all around.

I am not sure if Steve really wanted me to take the dosage up to the level that I did, but the articles that he attached made me try it :D.
Therefore my suggestion for Unique Nutrition is too either make a 600 mg capsule (as I think 2 caps is going to be minimum anyways), or make a larger packaging of more caps (like 200).

I think this product will go over very well with anyone that is looking for consistant energy or experiences fatigue on a daily basis.

Like I said before, this supplement is worth every penny, and I know that Unique Nutrition gives you quality. I would like to thank Steve and everyone at UN for the opportunity to test out this product, and I hope they ask me to review other products in the future :D.

Thanks again, and ask me any questions that you may have!

Thank you for putting the time and effort into this log!

We just released a bulk version. In the future if it sells well enough I can come out with a larger size but some people may have problems with a stronger dose.

[Dedicatedforlife]

Thank you for putting the time and effort into this log!

We just released a bulk version. In the future if it sells well enough I can come out with a larger size but some people may have problems with a stronger dose.

No, thank you for letting me try this product! :D. And great thinking with releasing a bulk version!

[CognitiveNutrition]

No, thank you for letting me try this product! :D. And great thinking with releasing a bulk version!

Want to try it bulk? =)

[Dedicatedforlife]

Want to try it bulk? =)

I would LOVE too!!! I would be an abuser though. Well abuser in the sence I would be taking 2.4 grams a day. :eek:

[Dedicatedforlife]

But I seriously think that trying this supplement for a longer period of time will provide better results ;).

[CognitiveNutrition]

But I seriously think that trying this supplement for a longer period of time will provide better results ;).

pm me your address and I'll send you a bottle of bulk!