RXRugbys experiencing some good times with Nootropics (Thanks to UNIQUE NUTRITION!)

[Apostle X]

Unique Nutrition has hooked me up with the real deal here people.

1 bottle each of:
Phenylethlyamine
Picamilon
L-Huperzine A

Here is some information to understand just what these products are!

Info on Phenylethylamine
PEA (PhenylEthylAmine) is a neuromodulator (monoamine) in the brain involved in mood and mental alertness related to the neurotransmitter Dopamine (3,4-dihydroxy-phenethylamine). It naturally occurs in some amounts in chocolate, certain algae?s and is produced in small amount in the brain from D-Phenylalanine.
Neurochemical Effects:

Neuromodulator of catecholamine activity. (Enhances the transmission of dopamine and norepinephrine)
AMPA receptor stimulant (increases acetylcholine release through the glutamatergic system)



Info on Picamilon

Unique Nutrition Picamilon (also called N-Nicotinoyl GABA, Pikamilon, and Pycamilon) is a unique nootropic very popular in Russia made by bonding a niacin derivative to GABA, which enables rapidly penetration into the blood brain barrier. While it shares some of the properties of both compounds, it effects are greatly amplified. GABA Modulation [Balances GABA levels] provide stress and focus support. Cerebral Blood Flow [Tones cerebral vessels] provides mental energy/alertness support.


Info on L-Huperzine A

L-Huperzine A is a natural plant alkaloid (extracted from Huperzia serrata), which quickly and potently boosts memory, learning, and concentration. Used worldwide for decades in adults and high school students. It's considered the most potent short term memory enhancer available. Potently raises Acetylcholine (main memory neurotransmitter) by inhibiting its breakdown from Acetylcholinesterase. L-Huperzine A strengthens the Brain's NMDA receptors to enhance focus, learning, and brain functioning. It also stimulates the synthesis of nerve growth factor to promotes youthful cerebral functioning.

Check them out here:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/uniq/uniq.htm

Anyway each of these "supplements" is very important to me in my daily activities.
I get up at 5:30 am everyday and have class from 7 am - 1 pm, followed by work until 8 pm, sometimes I will get off early if I am lucky and get a workout in.

Each of these supplements is important to me. Hup-A for an increase in my mental capacity and to get some A's on my tests!
PEA is a great mood enhancer and works as short burst of energy. Sometimes I take them in the mornings to wake me up, sometimes I take them before I go to work, and soon I will be taking them PRE workout!!
Picamilon is awesome for my stressful days...such as tests or heavy work days. Picamilon gives me focus and mental energy throughout the day.

I will be posting up reviews of each of these products. I also plan on posting up some experimental dosages and recording the results.

[kieltyka34]

looking forward to this RXRugby as you seem to have a tough schedule.

do you have a plan in mind for dosing the products or are you going to just go with the flow of things?

[Apostle X]

looking forward to this RXRugby as you seem to have a tough schedule.

do you have a plan in mind for dosing the products or are you going to just go with the flow of things?

Well I am trying to do a mix and match, experimental deal.

Do you have any recommendations as to when I should take each product?

Also, is it ok if I take PEA more than once a day?

I really love it in the mornings to wake me up, but then when I am done with class I have to go to work where I lift heavy wood/machinery and saw stuff up. So basically I need constant energy throughout the day. I would like to take it before class and before work.

Here is roughly what I have been doing

4 PEA 6:00 am
2 or 3 Hup-A 6:30 am
2 or 3 Picamilon 1:00 pm

I think I might switch the PEA and Picamilon around and see how that works out.

[AtownKing187]

Thanks for startin a log man! :)

[kieltyka34]

Well I am trying to do a mix and match, experimental deal.

Do you have any recommendations as to when I should take each product?

Also, is it ok if I take PEA more than once a day?

I really love it in the mornings to wake me up, but then when I am done with class I have to go to work where I lift heavy wood/machinery and saw stuff up. So basically I need constant energy throughout the day. I would like to take it before class and before work.

Here is roughly what I have been doing

4 PEA 6:00 am
2 or 3 Hup-A 6:30 am
2 or 3 Picamilon 1:00 pm

I think I might switch the PEA and Picamilon around and see how that works out.

Dosing looks fine. I've used higher doses of the huperzine A with good results, so if you find in about a week or so that you really haven't improved memory at all, you might wish to up the dose to 2 caps 2x daily. Make sure to take it with meals.

You could dose PEA twice a day though I wouldn't make it something common. You'll probably build a tolerance to the "feel good" effects of PEA (at least in my experience/opinion) rather quickly dosing it twice a day.

I'm sure if you do thorough reviews of these products, Steve won't mind sending a sample of our soon to be released sulbutiamine which sounds great for someone like you who needs energy throughout the day.

Again, best of luck and if you have any questions feel free to PM one of the reps (me, ATK, gfriedel, inklinked) or Steve (uniquenutrition) or post it up here. We'll do our best to answer it..

[Free Weight Friedel]

Thanks for startin a log man! :)

x 2!!

Good luck with your nootropics!!

[Apostle X]

Todays Dosage
PEA- 4 caps 6 am
Picamilon- 3 caps 1 pm
Hup- A - 2 x 2 (6:30 am and then 8:30pm)

PEA-
I was extremely tired this morning, I got around 6 and half hours of sleep, but I woke up in the middle of it, so I don't know if I really got any of the good "deep" sleep, what is it called...REM?
Anyway I took 4 PEA- as I sat down to eat breakfast I noticed it.
It makes you feel relaxed and all your muscles seem weightless. Right now as I type this my arms are sore, but this morning I don't even remembering feeling my arms, they were weightless! Along with the weightlessness and relaxed feelings, I also felt tingles, most notable in my hands and quads. I also felt a strange sensation in my head, more towards the back. I have to say I love this feeling, you feel no aches, no pains, only tiny little impulses that tell your body you feel awesome!
EDIT: almost forgot, the "tingle" phase wears off after like 20 minutes, but the "feel good" phase continues for what seems like over half an hour. I am wondering if I should decrease dosage ( I felt a little light headed, or if I should increase dosage to have a longer lasting energy)
Picamilon-
Wow, today I definitely noticed the Picamilon kick in. This was my 4th day of usage and I finally noticed the effects. I had to train a new hire today, showing him the ropes of what angles to use on the saws, etc. and I felt calm and cool throughout the whole process. I seemed so focused throughout the whole day, we had a high demand today on building corn hole sets so I built a ton of them and I actually acted as a leader today and orchestrated everyone to certain stations so we could mass produce them. Picamilon gave me a great increase in focus, and mental awareness. I felt like a leader today.

Hup-A-
Not much to report with this. I don't know if am actually supposed to "feel" anything when I take it, like oh I can feel my brain pulsating right after I take it! But I must say I am improving a lot in German and Calculus II!! We have quizzes daily and my short term memory has been getting me 100's on every single one of them. I have 100's in both classes and I am hoping to keep them up pretty high!

I just found out I get to test Smart Energy by UN as well!!! Thanks Steve and all you UN reps :D :cool:

[AtownKing187]

Todays Dosage
PEA- 4 caps 6 am
Picamilon- 3 caps 1 pm
Hup- A - 2 x 2 (6:30 am and then 8:30pm)

PEA-
I was extremely tired this morning, I got around 6 and half hours of sleep, but I woke up in the middle of it, so I don't know if I really got any of the good "deep" sleep, what is it called...REM?
Anyway I took 4 PEA- as I sat down to eat breakfast I noticed it.
It makes you feel relaxed and all your muscles seem weightless. Right now as I type this my arms are sore, but this morning I don't even remembering feeling my arms, they were weightless! Along with the weightlessness and relaxed feelings, I also felt tingles, most notable in my hands and quads. I also felt a strange sensation in my head, more towards the back. I have to say I love this feeling, you feel no aches, no pains, only tiny little impulses that tell your body you feel awesome!

Picamilon-
Wow, today I definitely noticed the Picamilon kick in. This was my 4th day of usage and I finally noticed the effects. I had to train a new hire today, showing him the ropes of what angles to use on the saws, etc. and I felt calm and cool throughout the whole process. I seemed so focused throughout the whole day, we had a high demand today on building corn hole sets so I built a ton of them and I actually acted as a leader today and orchestrated everyone to certain stations so we could mass produce them. Picamilon gave me a great increase in focus, and mental awareness. I felt like a leader today.

Hup-A-
Not much to report with this. I don't know if am actually supposed to "feel" anything when I take it, like oh I can feel my brain pulsating right after I take it! But I must say I am improving a lot in German and Calculus II!! We have quizzes daily and my short term memory has been getting me 100's on every single one of them. I have 100's in both classes and I am hoping to keep them up pretty high!

I just found out I get to test Smart Energy by UN as well!!! Thanks Steve and all you UN reps :D :cool:

REM sleep in adults typically occupies 20-25% of total sleep, lasting about 90-120 minutes. During a normal night of sleep, we usually experience about 4 or 5 periods of REM sleep; they are quite short at the beginning of the night and longer at the end. It is common to wake for a short time at the end of a REM phase. The relative amount of REM sleep varies considerably with age -wkipedia

Hup-A might take a bit longer on you to kick in.

[Apostle X]

REM sleep in adults typically occupies 20-25% of total sleep, lasting about 90-120 minutes. During a normal night of sleep, we usually experience about 4 or 5 periods of REM sleep; they are quite short at the beginning of the night and longer at the end. It is common to wake for a short time at the end of a REM phase. The relative amount of REM sleep varies considerably with age -wkipedia

Hup-A might take a bit longer on you to kick in.

Ah good info! I took psychology in highschool, but don't remember a thing from it!! I am starting to understand calculus a lot better. I have been taking Hup-A for over a week now. I think it might just be starting to kick in, especially with my dosage upped to 4 a day now.

[AtownKing187]

Ah good info! I took psychology in highschool, but don't remember a thing from it!! I am starting to understand calculus a lot better. I have been taking Hup-A for over a week now. I think it might just be starting to kick in, especially with my dosage upped to 4 a day now.


Are you doing? :

2 in the am and 2 mid afternoon


EDIT: I hate calculus

[Apostle X]

Are you doing? :

2 in the am and 2 mid afternoon


EDIT: I hate calculus

2 in the am and 2 in the late evenings. Should I do it sooner like 2 pm?

I take my first dose 6 am, then my second dose around 7 or 8 pm

yea I hate calculus...oh and did I mention its Calculus II!? :eek:

[AtownKing187]

2 in the am and 2 in the late evenings. Should I do it sooner like 2 pm?

I take my first dose 6 am, then my second dose around 7 or 8 pm

yea I hate calculus...oh and did I mention its Calculus II!? :eek:

I do 6am and noonish ....due to Hup-A's half-life id go no later than noon...but if you cant do it...get as close as possible.

[Apostle X]

I do 6am and noonish ....due to Hup-A's half-life id go no later than noon...but if you cant do it...get as close as possible.

I can definitely do it at noon. I will have to keep the half-life in mind

[AtownKing187]

I can definitely do it at noon. I will have to keep the half-life in mind

The exact time was posted in envy's thread if u wanna check in there for it....Its towards the begging..and theres loads of info already posted in there..if u wanna read some of it!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=53400361&postcount=99

4.8hrs

[CognitiveNutrition]

Todays Dosage
PEA- 4 caps 6 am
Picamilon- 3 caps 1 pm
Hup- A - 2 x 2 (6:30 am and then 8:30pm)

PEA-
I was extremely tired this morning, I got around 6 and half hours of sleep, but I woke up in the middle of it, so I don't know if I really got any of the good "deep" sleep, what is it called...REM?
Anyway I took 4 PEA- as I sat down to eat breakfast I noticed it.
It makes you feel relaxed and all your muscles seem weightless. Right now as I type this my arms are sore, but this morning I don't even remembering feeling my arms, they were weightless! Along with the weightlessness and relaxed feelings, I also felt tingles, most notable in my hands and quads. I also felt a strange sensation in my head, more towards the back. I have to say I love this feeling, you feel no aches, no pains, only tiny little impulses that tell your body you feel awesome!
EDIT: almost forgot, the "tingle" phase wears off after like 20 minutes, but the "feel good" phase continues for what seems like over half an hour. I am wondering if I should decrease dosage ( I felt a little light headed, or if I should increase dosage to have a longer lasting energy)
Picamilon-
Wow, today I definitely noticed the Picamilon kick in. This was my 4th day of usage and I finally noticed the effects. I had to train a new hire today, showing him the ropes of what angles to use on the saws, etc. and I felt calm and cool throughout the whole process. I seemed so focused throughout the whole day, we had a high demand today on building corn hole sets so I built a ton of them and I actually acted as a leader today and orchestrated everyone to certain stations so we could mass produce them. Picamilon gave me a great increase in focus, and mental awareness. I felt like a leader today.

Hup-A-
Not much to report with this. I don't know if am actually supposed to "feel" anything when I take it, like oh I can feel my brain pulsating right after I take it! But I must say I am improving a lot in German and Calculus II!! We have quizzes daily and my short term memory has been getting me 100's on every single one of them. I have 100's in both classes and I am hoping to keep them up pretty high!

I just found out I get to test Smart Energy by UN as well!!! Thanks Steve and all you UN reps :D :cool:

Those of some of the descriptions of my products I have ever seen for PEA and Picamilon!! For Hup I take 4 caps at once or I don't feel anything.

[OKPump]

hey ken,
good luck with the log bro, ill def be following this one!


-AJ

[CognitiveNutrition]

hey ken,
good luck with the log bro, ill def be following this one!


-AJ

Bump!

[Apostle X]

Bump!

haha sorry I have been out of town. Tomorrow I will be posting some more reviews. I think I will take 3 Picamilon with my 4 PEA tomorrow morning and see how the 2 mix

[Elliptical Envy]

Good luck with the log.

[Apostle X]

hey ken,
good luck with the log bro, ill def be following this one!


-AJ


Good luck with the log.


Bump!

Thanks all I will be updating when I get home from work early!!!

[CognitiveNutrition]

Thanks all I will be updating when I get home from work early!!!

Nice combo you got there.

[Apostle X]

Ok well here is my report for today

I took 2 Hup-A this morning at 6:30 am.
Got my German test back=100% awesome
Got my Calculus II test back..... wtf I got a 90%
I checked my answers and I must have went through the test too fast and missed a really easy question, so **** you Hup-A for making me feel really smart and causing me to rush through my test! JK, I always have this problem, but Hup-A is starting to kick in now, and I know I won't forget to double check on the next test!
Took the next 2 Hup-A at Noon after eating Chipotle (dang thats good stuff)

At around 9:30 am I took my 4 PEA and 3 Picamilon
Things to note:
I did NOT feel the tingles that I usually do, nor did I feel them yesterday when I did the combo.
Normally when I felt the tingles with PEA it was taken right when I woke up before all meals of the day.
I think either my breakfast (6:30 am) may have prevented the tingles or it could be the Picamilon.
Anyway I still felt pretty energized and focused! Next thing I knew it was 11:30 and time for a lunch break!

The energy/focus caused by the mix stayed until around 2 pm when I left work and started to feel drowzy on the way home.
So I would say the effects lasted for over 4 hours of good mental focus and energy.

I think on Thursday I will take 5 PEA and 4 Picamilon and see how that feels.
I am worried I am starting to build up a tolerance to PEA and I may start to only use this product 2-3 times a week at most.

[Apostle X]

Just wanted to add that I will be receiving Pyritinol from UN to test as well.


I just received a full bottle of Sulbutiamine, which looks awesome! This will help me a ton in the evenings. I will see if I can get a write up for you all shortly.

[Apostle X]

Info on Pyritinol

-Description-

Pyritinol (pyridoxine disulfide, pyrithioxine) is a derivative of the B vitamin pyridoxine hcl. Chemically it is 2 pyridoxine molecules bonded together by a disulfide bridge. It was created as a unique compound to enhance cognition and has been used for well over 40 years in Europe. Despite its structural similarities to the vitamin B-6 (pyridoxine) they work chemically very different and Pyritinol has no B-6 activity.

Pyritinol 400 mg 60 capsules

-Neurochemical Effects-

: Increases the brain's electrical firing rate

(Faster reaction time, mental processing, comprehension speed)

: Boosts Glucose Metabolism

(Supports mental energy & focus)

- Raises cerebral cGMP levels

(Supports cerebral vascular system)

- Activates cholinergenic system

(Supports memory)

-Dose-

Take 1-4 capsules daily.

-When do I feel it?-

Can be noticed in a few hours to a few days in most people.

-Note-

There are rare reports of severe allergic reactions to Pyritinol, if you notice any side effects while taking it discontinue taking it. If you have any health conditions or are on any medications contact your healthcare professional before using.

[Apostle X]

Info on Sulbutiamine

-Description-

Sulbutiamine (isobutyrylthiamine disulfide) is a novel fat soluble derivative of vitamin B-1 (thiamine) that rapidly and quickly crosses the blood-brain barrier.

Developed by the amazing French pharmaceutical company Servier under the name Arcalion for mental and physical exhaustion.

It has been shown to promote wakefulness, anti fatigue, long-term memory, improve response to stress, and have a positive effect on mood.

Sulbutiamine 300 mg 60 capsules


-Neurochemical effects-


: Enhances working and episodic memory (through NDMA modulation)


: Acts on the nervous structures responsible for physical activity, attention, and wakefulness


: Helps tired organs to recover its mental and physical capacities


: Improves motor coordination and resistance to muscular fatigue and awakening state


-Dose-

300-600 mg daily with a snack or meal containing fat.


-When can I feel it?-


Can be noticed within a few hours to a few days.

[Apostle X]

I took 3 Picamilon earlier today (9:30 am), I think I might take 4 more right before I take off. I will be going out of town and I will not be back until Thursday evening so no updates for 2 days!

[Elliptical Envy]

Just wanted to add that I will be receiving Pyritinol from UN to test as well.


I just received a full bottle of Sulbutiamine, which looks awesome! This will help me a ton in the evenings. I will see if I can get a write up for you all shortly.

Make sure you only take 1 cap of that Sulbutiamine or you may experience some bad headaches.

[CognitiveNutrition]

I took 3 Picamilon earlier today (9:30 am), I think I might take 4 more right before I take off. I will be going out of town and I will not be back until Thursday evening so no updates for 2 days!

I love it when people mega dose with nootropics lol.

[Apostle X]

I love it when people mega dose with nootropics lol.

I ended up only taking 3 more Picamilon. So 6 total for one day. I felt pretty relaxed during the whole drive to my friends house. I was pretty stressed out right before I left because my brother had lost my keys, which included car keys, house keys, library card, Weightroom card and some other stuff. But after taking 3 more Picamilon I just felt like it wasn't a big deal. I was pretty tired while driving, I don't know if the Picamilon caused that or not.

I am trying to study right now for my my practice exam tomorrow, and my Final on Monday. I will be taking 4 Hup-A's and a SULB to keep me motivated. I will be curious as to how the 2 interact

[Apostle X]

I am trying to study right now for my my practice exam tomorrow, and my Final on Monday. I will be taking 4 Hup-A's and a SULB to keep me motivated. I will be curious as to how the 2 interact

Well I ended getting a lot of studying done and for once I was focused and actually wanted to study. Usually I just read the information and I forget it a minute later, but I actually remembered the info today!

Anyway I am trying to figure out what to do tomorrow.

2 Hup-A at 6:30 am
What time should I take my 1 pill SULB?
I will take 3 Picamilon at Noon
And I will avoid PEA unless I really need it, I will take it for when I need a good short term energy boost

is this ok? I don't think any of these supplements would react negatively with each other.

[AtownKing187]

Well I ended getting a lot of studying done and for once I was focused and actually wanted to study. Usually I just read the information and I forget it a minute later, but I actually remembered the info today!

Anyway I am trying to figure out what to do tomorrow.

2 Hup-A at 6:30 am
What time should I take my 1 pill SULB?
I will take 3 Picamilon at Noon
And I will avoid PEA unless I really need it, I will take it for when I need a good short term energy boost

is this ok? I don't think any of these supplements would react negatively with each other.
It looks pretty solid to me man. I would say mid-afternoon...especially after a long days work..so it'll perk you up. I haven't used it yet..so i cant tell you hows it's worked for me..etc etc. Maybe Steve can help ya out more.

(dont forget your other 2 hup-a at noon time also)

[CognitiveNutrition]

Well I ended getting a lot of studying done and for once I was focused and actually wanted to study. Usually I just read the information and I forget it a minute later, but I actually remembered the info today!

Anyway I am trying to figure out what to do tomorrow.

2 Hup-A at 6:30 am
What time should I take my 1 pill SULB?
I will take 3 Picamilon at Noon
And I will avoid PEA unless I really need it, I will take it for when I need a good short term energy boost

is this ok? I don't think any of these supplements would react negatively with each other.

None directly counteract each other too strongly. I would take the sulbutiamine in the morning with some fat or oil snack/meal.

[Apostle X]

None directly counteract each other too strongly. I would take the sulbutiamine in the morning with some fat or oil snack/meal.

I was sick all day, so I decided not to take anything other than Hup-A.

Tomorrow I will take SULB by itself and report on that. Then I will add Picamilon the day after and see how they work together.

[Apostle X]

Ok here it goes, FIRST DAY of SULB!

I took 1 cap around 11 am. Yes I woke up late and went in to work late! :eek:
I took it with Chipotle, not the best meal but it is fatty lol. Next time I think natty peanut butter would be a better source for fat because fat is needed when taking SULB (if a rep could explain why that would be awesome).

Anyway at work none of the girls showed up for work today so my bosses decided to give me a break from lifting heavy stuff. Instead, they put me on the sewing machine LOL. So basically I sewed stuff all day but I would definitely say it was a good day for me. I had energy all day and never really fatigued at all. I think I will really notice SULB sometime this week when I have to wake up earlier and juggle my classes with work.
Also to note - I was wide awake throughout work. Yesterday I caught myself getting drowzy and starting to slack, but today I was alert for most of the day, until around 4:30 when I just wanted to leave early to head to the Reds baseball game.

I also want to thank Envy for sending me a sample of Phenibut, I will be logging that in here as well.

[AtownKing187]

Ok here it goes, FIRST DAY of SULB!

I took 1 cap around 11 am. Yes I woke up late and went in to work late! :eek:
I took it with Chipotle, not the best meal but it is fatty lol. Next time I think natty peanut butter would be a better source for fat because fat is needed when taking SULB (if a rep could explain why that would be awesome).


"Sulbutiamine (isobutyrylthiamine disulfide) is a novel fat soluble derivative of vitamin B-1 (thiamine) that rapidly and quickly crosses the blood-brain barrier."

I believe that's why..but ive barely read up on this new product of ours :o

[Apostle X]

"Sulbutiamine (isobutyrylthiamine disulfide) is a novel fat soluble derivative of vitamin B-1 (thiamine) that rapidly and quickly crosses the blood-brain barrier."

I believe that's why..but ive barely read up on this new product of ours :o

so when it states that it rapidly and quickly crosses the blood brain barrier, just how fast does it mean? How soon should I notice the effects?

And envy told me he got a headache from taking 2 of these. I think that when I use it tomorrow (long day of work) I will be able to evaluate SULB better and then adjust my intake. If I decide to take 2 I will report in and see if I get a headache. Has anyone else gotten one?

[AtownKing187]

so when it states that it rapidly and quickly crosses the blood brain barrier, just how fast does it mean? How soon should I notice the effects?

And envy told me he got a headache from taking 2 of these. I think that when I use it tomorrow (long day of work) I will be able to evaluate SULB better and then adjust my intake. If I decide to take 2 I will report in and see if I get a headache. Has anyone else gotten one?

Anywhere from a few minutes to a couple hours is when you should feel it(not sure on the blood brain barrier...Steve might have more info on that matter).

I havent tried it yet, but i have heard of a couple people getting headaches from 2caps of it. Give it a shot and report back to us

[Elliptical Envy]

Ok here it goes, FIRST DAY of SULB!

I took 1 cap around 11 am. Yes I woke up late and went in to work late! :eek:
I took it with Chipotle, not the best meal but it is fatty lol. Next time I think natty peanut butter would be a better source for fat because fat is needed when taking SULB (if a rep could explain why that would be awesome).

Anyway at work none of the girls showed up for work today so my bosses decided to give me a break from lifting heavy stuff. Instead, they put me on the sewing machine LOL. So basically I sewed stuff all day but I would definitely say it was a good day for me. I had energy all day and never really fatigued at all. I think I will really notice SULB sometime this week when I have to wake up earlier and juggle my classes with work.
Also to note - I was wide awake throughout work. Yesterday I caught myself getting drowzy and starting to slack, but today I was alert for most of the day, until around 4:30 when I just wanted to leave early to head to the Reds baseball game.

I also want to thank Envy for sending me a sample of Phenibut, I will be logging that in here as well.

No problem at all RX! I hope you enjoy the Phenibut.

[Elliptical Envy]

so when it states that it rapidly and quickly crosses the blood brain barrier, just how fast does it mean? How soon should I notice the effects?

And envy told me he got a headache from taking 2 of these. I think that when I use it tomorrow (long day of work) I will be able to evaluate SULB better and then adjust my intake. If I decide to take 2 I will report in and see if I get a headache. Has anyone else gotten one?

I've never taken two caps of Sulbutiamine because headaches were a side effect of dosing around 600 mg. 1 cap normally does me right and it kicks in around 15 minutes or so..... :)

[kieltyka34]

so when it states that it rapidly and quickly crosses the blood brain barrier, just how fast does it mean? How soon should I notice the effects?

And envy told me he got a headache from taking 2 of these. I think that when I use it tomorrow (long day of work) I will be able to evaluate SULB better and then adjust my intake. If I decide to take 2 I will report in and see if I get a headache. Has anyone else gotten one?

It seems to kick in rather quickly for me. (think along the lines of picamilon, around 15-20 mins)

I haven't gotten a headache from 2 caps. I think 1 cap will be plenty for your weight. Sulbutiamine is unique to me in the fact that it gives me energy but I don't at all feel like I'm on high dose caffeine or anything just ready for anything. I think for someone who seems to have long days such as yourself, you might benefit from 1 cap BID..

[Apostle X]

I've never taken two caps of Sulbutiamine because headaches were a side effect of dosing around 600 mg. 1 cap normally does me right and it kicks in around 15 minutes or so..... :)
Did you ever feel any tingles?

It seems to kick in rather quickly for me. (think along the lines of picamilon, around 15-20 mins)

I haven't gotten a headache from 2 caps. I think 1 cap will be plenty for your weight. Sulbutiamine is unique to me in the fact that it gives me energy but I don't at all feel like I'm on high dose caffeine or anything just ready for anything. I think for someone who seems to have long days such as yourself, you might benefit from 1 cap BID..

what is the half life for SULB? I took 1 today again and was stuck to painting and sewing today, so the energy I felt was minimal.

I think I might move up to 2 caps tomorrow, or maybe spread them throughout the day

[Apostle X]

I found the half life
Sulbutiamine- 5 hours

[CognitiveNutrition]

Did you ever feel any tingles?


what is the half life for SULB? I took 1 today again and was stuck to painting and sewing today, so the energy I felt was minimal.

I think I might move up to 2 caps tomorrow, or maybe spread them throughout the day

1 cap in the morning and 1 in the afternoon probably a good idea.

[Apostle X]

So sorry I did not update yesterday! I had to study for my final, which I had this morning.

Anyway I took 2 SULB (600 mg) caps yesterday in the AM, followed by 4 Picamilon (200 mg) around 2 pm.

I was pretty impressed with the 4 Picamilon, but I am still unsure of the Sulbutiamine.

I felt really coherent all day yesterday and pretty confident and in control. I have been working with some of the new hires and I was barking out orders and keeping charge and just enjoying work. I felt like I could have worked all day.
This feeling was definitely a mix of the Picamilon and Sulb, but I think I need to take my Sulbutiamine later in the day like around 8 or 9 am instead of 6:30 am.

I have not taken PEA in awhile, and I have to say I am looking forward to taking some tomorrow on my day off.

[Apostle X]

1 cap in the morning and 1 in the afternoon probably a good idea.

Do you not recommend going over 600 mg of Sulbutiamine in one day? I was thinking of taking 600 mg Sulb around 8 or 9 am and then follow up with another around 1 or 2 depending on when I take a lunch break.

Here is my report for today

I took 4 Hup-A before my test with breakfast along with 600 mg of SULB.
I dominated my exam. I left one of my review sheets in class by mistake yesterday and was unable to study it last night, but I remembered most of what was on it. I know Hup-A helped me on my test. I know thanks to the Hup-A I will be getting an A+ in the mail any day now. My father has been asking for some of the Hup-A so I will be buying some for him shortly! He needs it :D

After my exam I took 4 Picamilon. Work went well today, and I am thinking clearly.
With all the nootropics I am taking I have noticed that I think a lot clearer now. There is no clouding of thoughts in my brain, everything just seems to flow more smoothly. The Hup-A has helped memory wise, the Picamilon is really relaxing me and giving me stress support and the Sulb is hopefully giving me energy. I still feel it is too early to tell with the Sulb.

One thing to note: I have not had any headaches at all since taking the nootropics. Only one day I have been sick and that was due to some shots from the doctor. I used to get headaches when I had to work so much, but now I can actually come home from work and enjoy the rest of my day!

[kieltyka34]

great, detailed feedback RX. sulbutiamine is very subtle IMO but worth it, looking forward to hearing more of your experiences with it. Also, I would go with steve's advice on the two caps, there doesn't seem to be a worthwhile difference between 300-600 mg taken at once to me

[CognitiveNutrition]

Do you not recommend going over 600 mg of Sulbutiamine in one day? I was thinking of taking 600 mg Sulb around 8 or 9 am and then follow up with another around 1 or 2 depending on when I take a lunch break.

Here is my report for today

I took 4 Hup-A before my test with breakfast along with 600 mg of SULB.
I dominated my exam. I left one of my review sheets in class by mistake yesterday and was unable to study it last night, but I remembered most of what was on it. I know Hup-A helped me on my test. I know thanks to the Hup-A I will be getting an A+ in the mail any day now. My father has been asking for some of the Hup-A so I will be buying some for him shortly! He needs it :D

After my exam I took 4 Picamilon. Work went well today, and I am thinking clearly.
With all the nootropics I am taking I have noticed that I think a lot clearer now. There is no clouding of thoughts in my brain, everything just seems to flow more smoothly. The Hup-A has helped memory wise, the Picamilon is really relaxing me and giving me stress support and the Sulb is hopefully giving me energy. I still feel it is too early to tell with the Sulb.

One thing to note: I have not had any headaches at all since taking the nootropics. Only one day I have been sick and that was due to some shots from the doctor. I used to get headaches when I had to work so much, but now I can actually come home from work and enjoy the rest of my day!

Thats some solid L-Huperzine A feedback!!

[Apostle X]

Thats some solid L-Huperzine A feedback!!

I will be buying some for my dad ASAP! It is a solid product. I want him to try it out for one month and if he enjoys it, then he will buy some for me too :D

Here is my review for yesterday (Thursday)

Usual day of work

I took 1 SULB around 7 am with 6 whole eggs and bacon (plenty of fat).
I followed this up with 4 picamilon and another cap of SULB around noon.
I have to say I felt energized at work all day and pretty nonchalant the whole day. I received some pretty big news that will factor into my present day and future life. I didn't really feel too stressed out from the news, and I felt in control of my situation.

I will write about that later.

But overall the Picamilon has yet again helped me deal with mental stress and kept me going on through the day.

I am starting to recognize SULB as giving a small steady torrent of energy. It has some serious potential if I can stack everything correctly

[Apostle X]

i am tired i will post up todays review tomorrow

[Apostle X]

yea its 1:20 am. Sorry for the late update

Friday-
Took 1 SULB in the am (around 7)
followed by 1 SULB and 4 Picamilon at 11 am

I felt solid at work.
After work (got out early at 3 pm) I played not 1, not 2, but 5 games of racquetball followed by half an hour on a stationary bike.
I have come to recognize and appreciate SULB! I never really lost energy- that was the big key. I have never felt a big boost of energy when taking SULB, but I have now noticed that my energy does not seem to tire. It is has been hard to notice this at work because...
my bosses are morons and hired too many people, now they have to cut back hours. All week I have been sewing and doing misc. stuff for them. Next week they have me as a total of 16 HOURS !!!! yikes, but I have been complaining so they doubled it to 32. Double the hours of everyone else.

Anyway, I think this week I may move up to 2 SULB in the am, followed by 1 at lunch. If anyone has any suggestions please tell me!

Sorry envy I havent had time to try any Phenibut.
With my reduced hours I will definitely try some this week!

Oh and here is a picture to show how I felt on Friday
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/YEAILIFT/3a65fbad9a981edf5ff7d990597a366a.gif

[CognitiveNutrition]

Do you not recommend going over 600 mg of Sulbutiamine in one day? I was thinking of taking 600 mg Sulb around 8 or 9 am and then follow up with another around 1 or 2 depending on when I take a lunch break.


After someone did 1.2 grams without a problem i suppose you can go up to that high of a dose but I would do it slowly and only as or if needed.

[Apostle X]

After someone did 1.2 grams without a problem i suppose you can go up to that high of a dose but I would do it slowly and only as or if needed.

What kind of effects can happen with an OD other than a head ache? :D

I took 4 PEA today. I love that stuff, I really want to try it before a workout sometime.I always take it right when I wake up to get me "relaxed" for the day. I gave 3 to my mom, but she no effect.

PEA just makes you feel awesome. I had a big smile and these tingles all over my body. I really seem to feel them in whatever muscles that are sore, and it seems to help the soreness go away.... does that seem normal to you? I will be trying these sometime this week before a workout.

[Free Weight Friedel]

Nice log RX!!! Awesome updates on how you feel, etc.

[CognitiveNutrition]

What kind of effects can happen with an OD other than a head ache? :D

I took 4 PEA today. I love that stuff, I really want to try it before a workout sometime.I always take it right when I wake up to get me "relaxed" for the day. I gave 3 to my mom, but she no effect.

PEA just makes you feel awesome. I had a big smile and these tingles all over my body. I really seem to feel them in whatever muscles that are sore, and it seems to help the soreness go away.... does that seem normal to you? I will be trying these sometime this week before a workout.

"Ramped it up to 1.2g of sulbutiamine this morning. Didn't feel too much but about an hour later I realized that I was totally wide eyed, awake, alert, etc. I didn't feel overstimulated, just supremely alert. Very focuses on completing tasks right now, which is a good thing. The effect is still very pronounced and its 4 hours later now. I like this dose! "


http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=29455&pid=412644&st=0&#entry412644

PEA is making your dopamine receptors very happy.

[Fitnesskid44]

Wow interesting stack bro I have never even herd of some of those good luck.

[Apostle X]

I took 900mg of SULB this morning and wow! I felt some great energy. I probably could have lifted hardcore without taking an NO supplement, but I took superpump250 today to give me a little extra energy. I took 1 more SULB cap around noon to keep my energy flowing. I will definitely be taking 3 caps tomorrow morning and I will bring along 2 more with me for lunch time.

a solid product no doubt!


I also took 4 Picamilon today before my test, and it helped calm me down a lot. I was pretty nervous about it, because I felt like my studying had not gone well. I ended up being the first one done with the test! I will find out my grade Wednesday.

Oh and I got a 4.0 in German thanks to Hup-A!!!!

[Apostle X]

Wow interesting stack bro I have never even herd of some of those good luck.

yea me neither, now Im hooked!

[LT710]

BUMP

Great log...I've been meaning to get on the nootropic train for a while now, but haven't gotten around to it (that's one of the things I hope these sups will work on...my laziness/apathy).

[Apostle X]

BUMP

Great log...I've been meaning to get on the nootropic train for a while now, but haven't gotten around to it (that's one of the things I hope these sups will work on...my laziness/apathy).

lol well if you want to stay awake be sure to take some Hup-A

I took 3 Huperzine-A caps for my evening Calc II class and I was about to fall asleep in class and then all of a sudden, BAM I was wide awake and actually learned a ton of info in class. I still am pretty wide awake now.
Hup-A works great to increase short term memory AND IMO wake your brain up. I was seriously about to fall asleep when all of sudden I guess the Hup-A kicked in and bam my brain was eating up all the Calculus formulas.


I took 4 SULB caps this morning and did not really feel energized, although I was extremely tired. Usually when I am reallllllllly tired I have a head ache all day, and so of course I had one today. I have heard of people getting head aches from taking too much SULB, but I do not believe my head ache was from SULB.

I will be taking 4 SULB caps again tomorrow and getting more sleep tonight :D

[Apostle X]

took 3 SULB in the am followed by 1 SULB and 3 Picamilon around lunch.

I only had to work 8-12 so it was a pretty relaxed time for me. I had energy all day, and no headaches.

This is probably the best I have ever felt mentally. I can think so much clearer and I can speak coherently and easier. My energy has been pretty solid, I know for awhile work was making me very tired and I was getting sick every once in awhile, either from stress or lack of sleep. But now my stress has been reduced, and I feel so much more alert and coherent.

I still have many different feelings about SULB, I think I need to experiment with more dosages. I have been ranging from 1-4 caps in the AM, followed by 1-2 caps around lunch. I think taking them with my breakfast might be too early, so I may try eating a fatty snack as soon as I get to work and see how that works out.

Overall I am impressed with Hup-A, Picamilon and PEA.

Hopefully I get the bottle of Pyritinol soon. I requested a sample a while back, but nothings come in yet.

I also ordered 3 bottles of Huperzine-A for the school year and for my dad.

[Apostle X]

Weekend Update:

Took the weekend off.

I felt so tired and worn out all weekend! I think the SULB kept me going all week. As soon as I stopped taking it I crashed. It is really awesome, now that I recognize its capabilities. You kind of become attached to it when taking it daily.
It really does help keep you mentally and physically alert.

I have my final today, I have pretty much been studying all weekend. Wish me luck

[Free Weight Friedel]

Weekend Update:

Took the weekend off.

I felt so tired and worn out all weekend! I think the SULB kept me going all week. As soon as I stopped taking it I crashed. It is really awesome, now that I recognize its capabilities. You kind of become attached to it when taking it daily.
It really does help keep you mentally and physically alert.

I have my final today, I have pretty much been studying all weekend. Wish me luck

Nice Log updates & Good Luck on your Final today!!!!!

[MegaPump]

great, detailed feedback RX. sulbutiamine is very subtle IMO but worth it, looking forward to hearing more of your experiences with it. Also, I would go with steve's advice on the two caps, there doesn't seem to be a worthwhile difference between 300-600 mg taken at once to me

Sulbutiamine was not subtle for me. Id say signicicantly effective. Id recomend 1 300mg dose twice daily if you wanted to take two. One first thing in the morning with two egg yokes, im yet to try it with one egg yoke. Any idea how much fat is actually optimal ?

[Apostle X]

Sulbutiamine was not subtle for me. Id say signicicantly effective. Id recomend 1 300mg dose twice daily if you wanted to take two. One first thing in the morning with two egg yokes, im yet to try it with one egg yoke. Any idea how much fat is actually optimal ?

When you say it was not subtle do you mean you can feel the Sulbutiamine kick instantly?



Todays Report

Took 2 SULB (600 mg) around 11 am.
I worked 12-6 with a lunch break around 3. I took 2 more SULB (600 mg).

I had a good deal of energy today. The weekend seemed to drag on forever, and I felt pretty tired all weekend.
Last night I got around 4 hours of sleep, did not get to bed until around 6 am (yes long story)

So somehow I managed to sleep 6 am -10 am and then work 12-6. I actually felt very energized at work, it was a constant flow of energy. I think 600 mg for breakfast and 600 mg for lunch is ideal, I might take 3 caps in the AM just to wake me up.

As soon as I got home I passed out, but Sulbutiamine kept me going through work. I am impressed, it kept me going all day with 4 hours of sleep and a hangover. :D


I will be testing ZMP by Zima soon, so that should hopefully help me with sleep. I think this will also help me isolate the energy from Sulbutiamine and get a better feel for it.

It is very interesting to see all the different ranges of Sulbutiamine people are taking. Some people have ranged from 300 mg to over 1200 mg with their breakfast. I think I fall somewhere in the middle.

I have a lot more free time now that my classes are done, so I will be working out daily. I hope I will be able to feel the energy from Sulbutiamine keep me going through my workouts.

[SHOWTIME]

so have you found the best supplement routine for your self yet. I am very very interested in nootropics. So I am busy researching them as of late. I would love to hear your opinions on the supps you have

[Apostle X]

so have you found the best supplement routine for your self yet. I am very very interested in nootropics. So I am busy researching them as of late. I would love to hear your opinions on the supps you have

Sure!

Only supp I take daily anymore is SULB. I used to take Hup-A daily but I ran out Monday.
The rest are for when I need them

Huperzine- A
I just bought 3 bottles of Huperzine-A for the school year.
I found that 2 caps in the am, followed by 2 at lunch worked best for me.

Picamilon
This helps reduce stress for me. I only take this when something important is going to happen
- Dates :cool:, Tests, Meetings, Speeches, etc.
I usually take 4 caps

Sulbutiamine
Take Daily
This has become a staple supp for day to day interaction.
I still am uncertain with the dosages on this, because all the dosages feel nearly the same.
This helps fight fatigue. I have to lift heavy boxes all day long. I used to be sore all the time, now I can push through the day pretty easily. Read todays log for instance. Sulb does not really give me a sudden surge of energy, its just you have energy to do your daily activities and it never seems to end.

I really haven't gotten to test this much with lifting, but now that classes are over I have more free time.

PEA- my favorite (PhenylEthylAmine)
I will take PREworkout. This is found in Neogenixs Velocity XT, and other similar PreWorkout supps.
This is the only product that you can actually FEEL. It hits you half an hour after taking it, if dosed properly.
Makes me feel amazing, and tingly, muscles get relaxed and you can really get a feel for your muscles.

I really want to try all the bulk products all the racetams...piracetams etc.

It all really depends on what you need the most.
I get really nervous and the Picamilon has helped me out in several situations, such as staying calm for tests and keeping my cool and chatting easy with the girls.
Hup-A is bad ass though, I got a 4.0 in one of my classes, my other teacher hasn't posted grades yet.

But if I get two 4.0s, I will be on course for the Air Force!

[SHOWTIME]

Sure!

Only supp I take daily anymore is SULB. I used to take Hup-A daily but I ran out Monday.
The rest are for when I need them

Huperzine- A
I just bought 3 bottles of Huperzine-A for the school year.
I found that 2 caps in the am, followed by 2 at lunch worked best for me.

Picamilon
This helps reduce stress for me. I only take this when something important is going to happen
- Dates :cool:, Tests, Meetings, Speeches, etc.
I usually take 4 caps

Sulbutiamine
Take Daily
This has become a staple supp for day to day interaction.
I still am uncertain with the dosages on this, because all the dosages feel nearly the same.
This helps fight fatigue. I have to lift heavy boxes all day long. I used to be sore all the time, now I can push through the day pretty easily. Read todays log for instance. Sulb does not really give me a sudden surge of energy, its just you have energy to do your daily activities and it never seems to end.

I really haven't gotten to test this much with lifting, but now that classes are over I have more free time.

PEA- my favorite (PhenylEthylAmine)
I will take PREworkout. This is found in Neogenixs Velocity XT, and other similar PreWorkout supps.
This is the only product that you can actually FEEL. It hits you half an hour after taking it, if dosed properly.
Makes me feel amazing, and tingly, muscles get relaxed and you can really get a feel for your muscles.

I really want to try all the bulk products all the racetams...piracetams etc.

It all really depends on what you need the most.
I get really nervous and the Picamilon has helped me out in several situations, such as staying calm for tests and keeping my cool and chatting easy with the girls.
Hup-A is bad ass though, I got a 4.0 in one of my classes, my other teacher hasn't posted grades yet.

But if I get two 4.0s, I will be on course for the Air Force!


Wow bro thank you for the awesome detailed info. Very nice and awesome marks!!!

Heres hoping for two 4.0's!

[MegaPump]

When you say it was not subtle do you mean you can feel the Sulbutiamine kick instantly?


Actually I would understand it to be described as subtle because it probably is. Its not like a drug that hits you and you can feel the effects. It comes on more subtle but works well for me.



Sulbutiamine
Take Daily
This has become a staple supp for day to day interaction.
I still am uncertain with the dosages on this, because all the dosages feel nearly the same.
This helps fight fatigue. I have to lift heavy boxes all day long. I used to be sore all the time, now I can push through the day pretty easily. Read todays log for instance. Sulb does not really give me a sudden surge of energy, its just you have energy to do your daily activities and it never seems to end.

I really haven't gotten to test this much with lifting, but now that classes are over I have more free time.

PEA- my favorite (PhenylEthylAmine)
I will take PREworkout. This is found in Neogenixs Velocity XT, and other similar PreWorkout supps.
This is the only product that you can actually FEEL. It hits you half an hour after taking it, if dosed properly.
Makes me feel amazing, and tingly, muscles get relaxed and you can really get a feel for your muscles.



You probably will need to play around with doses, but if "all dosages feel nearly the same" why not take lower dosages, its working for me, just dont expect the PEA effect you described and you will appreciate it more.

This PEA does sound good but I hear its short acting ?

[Apostle X]

Actually I would understand it to be described as subtle because it probably is. Its not like a drug that hits you and you can feel the effects. It comes on more subtle but works well for me.



You probably will need to play around with doses, but if "all dosages feel nearly the same" why not take lower dosages, its working for me, just dont expect the PEA effect you described and you will appreciate it more.

This PEA does sound good but I hear its short acting ?

yea PEA lasts for around 15-30 minutes for me.

I will be taking some SULB today and working out, so I will be sure to note how I feel.

[Apostle X]

Wow bro thank you for the awesome detailed info. Very nice and awesome marks!!!

Heres hoping for two 4.0's!

just got my grades back. I got a 4.0 in Calculus II!! Two 4.0's!

One step at a time

[SHOWTIME]

just got my grades back. I got a 4.0 in Calculus II!! Two 4.0's!

One step at a time

Awesome dude!!!!!!! Thats incredible! Great JOb!

[Apostle X]

Awesome dude!!!!!!! Thats incredible! Great JOb!

lol I just ordered 3 tubs of Hup-A.

Hopefully I can maintain a 3.5 my fall quarter
Adv. O Chem 1 and 2 plus Labs
Human Anatomy and Physiology
Physics for Health Sciences
More Math
and some English

[kieltyka34]

that huperzine a is gonna come in handy for o-chem. saved my life 2nd semester...

just make sure you make use of flash cards for the reactions and youll make a good grade

[Apostle X]

that huperzine a is gonna come in handy for o-chem. saved my life 2nd semester...

just make sure you make use of flash cards for the reactions and youll make a good grade

I think my 2nd Semester will be a little easier (my other classes will be pharmacy electives, like Health Ethics etc.) So I can focus a little more O Chem

[Kutta]

Nice log!

I'm tossing some Picamilon, Huperzine-A, Sulbutiamine, and PEA into my next order on here. Hard to pass up at these prices.

If Hup-A works as well as you describe, I'm wishing I had this available for my college classes. Would've been nice for my marathon study sessions :)

Good luck next quarter.

[Apostle X]

Nice log!

I'm tossing some Picamilon, Huperzine-A, Sulbutiamine, and PEA into my next order on here. Hard to pass up at these prices.

If Hup-A works as well as you describe, I'm wishing I had this available for my college classes. Would've been nice for my marathon study sessions :)

Good luck next quarter.

yea Hup-A rocks, except when I ordered it came with no scooper! ( I bought powder form). Steve was a great person though and sent out some scoopers for me!

[Apostle X]

Update for Friday

I took 3 Sulbutiamine today around lunch. I have been extremely lazy all week now that my classes are done and my company is outsourcing me to China.

Oh yea I might have forgot to mention that! My company has been building CornHole sets(and a ton of other stuff) for awhile now and just met with ESPN to talk about designs and using college sports logos. ESPN loved our sets (I built and painted them! :D ) and they want to order a ton. So basically it is cheaper to make them in China, and well yea my company decided going to China for labor would save them a little $$.

Lucky for me Lenscrafters still has me on the Rehire list so I might go back there.

But anyway,
took 3 SULB.. Its been awhile since I have ran. I decided to do 3 miles.
NO PROBLEM what so ever, I never really got tired!!!
My legs aren't even that sore today. Sulbutiamine is great, I will be running 3 miles 3 times weekly so expect some more Cardio- SULB updates.

I will be logging ZMP and White Flood soon, but I will have a lot more to time to post thanks to no more classes and cut hours/ losing my job.

I will have to find the half life of SULB again, I think it is 5 hours.

[SHOWTIME]

Well i hope the job buisness works out for you

[Apostle X]

Well i hope the job buisness works out for you

yea thanks bro.

Kind of sucks, because my bosses were talking about giving me a raise for my birthday (this sunday), but now I might not have a job at the end of the summer.

Its ok though I need to find a pharm tech job for experience.

[SHOWTIME]

yea thanks bro.

Kind of sucks, because my bosses were talking about giving me a raise for my birthday (this sunday), but now I might not have a job at the end of the summer.

Its ok though I need to find a pharm tech job for experience.


Well Im glad you are staying positive,

how come you do not rep for any companies here? You are very knowledgeable.

[Apostle X]

Well Im glad you are staying positive,

how come you do not rep for any companies here? You are very knowledgeable.

well I want to find a company that I feel like I can truly represent

- gotta love the products
- know the products inside and out
- have plenty of time to help out

Plus I don't want to hop on any company yet. I want my first decision to be an awesome one :D

Same goes to you! How come you aren't repping?

[SHOWTIME]

well I want to find a company that I feel like I can truly represent

- gotta love the products
- know the products inside and out
- have plenty of time to help out

Plus I don't want to hop on any company yet. I want my first decision to be an awesome one :D

Same goes to you! How come you aren't repping?


lol..
Almost the exact same reasons

- gotta love the products
- know the products inside and out

I have the time but Im still waiting for the right company. I want the company I rep to be one that I fully back I dont want to have to be scared to rep them. I want to fully believe in thier products and believe that their supplements will help out other weightlifters and BB'ers not just be another creatine, NO or protein but be part of a company with great products!

But there are a couple companies out there that I am interested in.

[Apostle X]

lol..
Almost the exact same reasons

- gotta love the products
- know the products inside and out

I have the time but Im still waiting for the right company. I want the company I rep to be one that I fully back I dont want to have to be scared to rep them. I want to fully believe in thier products and believe that their supplements will help out other weightlifters and BB'ers not just be another creatine, NO or protein but be part of a company with great products!

But there are a couple companies out there that I am interested in.

good to hear! I see you posting all the time, it's just a matter of time before the companies come calling.

Yea the whole Syntrax deal has been a little crazy, I feel bad for those reps, and worst of all I loved their protein products! (please no sue)

[SHOWTIME]

good to hear! I see you posting all the time, it's just a matter of time before the companies come calling.

Yea the whole Syntrax deal has been a little crazy, I feel bad for those reps, and worst of all I loved their protein products! (please no sue)

Thanks man, I hope the right company does ask


I have some SWOLE v3 I havent tried yet. Its supposed to be pretty good.

You have some Matrix or Nectar?

[Apostle X]

Thanks man, I hope the right company does ask


I have some SWOLE v3 I havent tried yet. Its supposed to be pretty good.

You have some Matrix or Nectar?

lol its all gone now. Cookies N Cream was the ****. And Nectar was suprisingly good too.


I guess I will be sticking to EAS Whey protein for awhile. Do you recommend any extremely tasty proteins? (NO HOMO!)

I remember someone mentioning a Cinnamon Oatmeal protein, that sounds delicious

[SHOWTIME]

lol its all gone now. Cookies N Cream was the ****. And Nectar was suprisingly good too.


I guess I will be sticking to EAS Whey protein for awhile. Do you recommend any extremely tasty proteins? (NO HOMO!)

I remember someone mentioning a Cinnamon Oatmeal protein, that sounds delicious

lol (NO HOMO!) Capital letters and a ! lol

Well I usually just make a shake

Post workout
1/3 of oats
2 scoops protein
6 ice cubes
Banana
14oz of milk

and if I am trying to bulk which is very often I throw in some PB but not in the post workout shake.

I use
EAS Chocolate
Dymatize Chocolate and mint Chocolate

Some taste better than others but If I just want a quick drink I just mix 1 scoop of protein and add water then slam it. So the taste doesnt matter much but chocolate is usually the safest flavour in my opinion

The Cinnamon Oatmeal protein, I think its by Prolab it is suppose to be good but I havent ever tried it

[Apostle X]

lol (NO HOMO!) Capital letters and a ! lol

Well I usually just make a shake

Post workout
1/3 of oats
2 scoops protein
6 ice cubes
Banana
14oz of milk

and if I am trying to bulk which is very often I throw in some PB but not in the post workout shake.

I use
EAS Chocolate
Dymatize Chocolate and mint Chocolate

Some taste better than others but If I just want a quick drink I just mix 1 scoop of protein and add water then slam it. So the taste doesnt matter much but chocolate is usually the safest flavour in my opinion

The Cinnamon Oatmeal protein, I think its by Prolab it is suppose to be good but I havent ever tried it
lol well I thought of several ideas of what the MISC would say when asked about protein.

So you like EAS chocolate? I buy the vanilla. Cant beat the EAS prices IMO.

I should have around 50lbs of Steel Cut oats coming in the mail any day now. I have been without oats for 2 weeks!

What kind of oats do you put in your shakes? Instant or Rolled Oats. Rolled have a little bit lower GI than Instant, but I like them better.

[SHOWTIME]

lol well I thought of several ideas of what the MISC would say when asked about protein.

So you like EAS chocolate? I buy the vanilla. Cant beat the EAS prices IMO.

I should have around 50lbs of Steel Cut oats coming in the mail any day now. I have been without oats for 2 weeks!

What kind of oats do you put in your shakes? Instant or Rolled Oats. Rolled have a little bit lower GI than Instant, but I like them better.


I have used both. i prefer Steel Cut Oats as well but I get Instant at like 16 cents for 100grams so sometimes instant wins!

EAS prices are awesome especially here in Canada usually Protein costs like $50-$55 for 5 lbs sometimes EAS can be found for like $30 something for 6lbs

[Apostle X]

I have used both. i prefer Steel Cut Oats as well but I get Instant at like 16 cents for 100grams so sometimes instant wins!

EAS prices are awesome especially here in Canada usually Protein costs like $50-$55 for 5 lbs sometimes EAS can be found for like $30 something for 6lbs

16 cents for 100 grams is solid.

I bought the steel cut oats for
2 lbs= $2
so 50 lbs for $50!
plus free shipping, which would have cost like $20 because its so heavy.

Steel Cut Oats at walmart costs like $4-5 for 1.5 lbs
so its a really good deal.

btw you should ice cream to your shakes every once in awhile, it will complete the tastiness of your shake. I usually get a fat free ice cream or something. My dad hates milk so he use ice cream for calcium, I use it for taste!

[SHOWTIME]

16 cents for 100 grams is solid.

I bought the steel cut oats for
2 lbs= $2
so 50 lbs for $50!
plus free shipping, which would have cost like $20 because its so heavy.

Steel Cut Oats at walmart costs like $4-5 for 1.5 lbs
so its a really good deal.

btw you should ice cream to your shakes every once in awhile, it will complete the tastiness of your shake. I usually get a fat free ice cream or something. My dad hates milk so he use ice cream for calcium, I use it for taste!


Awesome deal on the oats!

Plus I use to use icecream but I forgot all about adding it to my shakes.. its been a while but I will consider it again for sure, especially since its summer time!

[pu12en12g]

just got my grades back. I got a 4.0 in Calculus II!! Two 4.0's!

One step at a time

Nice :cool:

[pu12en12g]

Happy Happy Birthday to you man !! :cool: :D

[Apostle X]

Happy Happy Birthday to you man !! :cool: :D

Thanks :D

I have been taking the whole weekend off eating a bunch of buffets
yesterday was this Brazilian Steak House
Heres the website
http://www.boinabraza.com/OurMenu/tabid/58/Default.aspx
click on the meats
OMG best steak ever (its all you can eat too)

Today is the Olive Garden all you can eat breadsticks and salad!

[Apostle X]

Well sorry for the long break!!!

I am getting close to the bottom of my Sulbutiamine bottle!

Took 3 pills in the AM today. I had energy all day, but I usually have energy anyway without SULB. I will be lifting tomorrow.

I will be putting up reviews for all the products this weekend hopefully

[SHOWTIME]

Thanks :D

I have been taking the whole weekend off eating a bunch of buffets
yesterday was this Brazilian Steak House
Heres the website
http://www.boinabraza.com/OurMenu/tabid/58/Default.aspx
click on the meats
OMG best steak ever (its all you can eat too)

Today is the Olive Garden all you can eat breadsticks and salad!

Olive Garden Rocks!!

[CognitiveNutrition]

Well sorry for the long break!!!

I am getting close to the bottom of my Sulbutiamine bottle!

Took 3 pills in the AM today. I had energy all day, but I usually have energy anyway without SULB. I will be lifting tomorrow.

I will be putting up reviews for all the products this weekend hopefully

Nice be sure to take it with a snack containing fat!

[Apostle X]

Nice be sure to take it with a snack containing fat!

Sorry for the delay.

I have started up some new logs, and I just finished off my Sulbutiamine. I have a few capsules of PEA left, but thats it...so I will be wrapping this log up.

I have always been taking my Sulbutiamine with my breakfast. I usually eat around 6 whole eggs so it is 20+ grams of fat for breakfast. I just never really felt a significant increase in energy. When I did cardio I noticed that energy stayed longer, but it was not too much of a difference.

I will be working on reviews tonight and hopefully get them up tonight or sometime tomorrow

[russelltm]

1,000 MG L-Phenylalanine
5 MG Deprenyl
1,500 MG Piracetam
250 MG Choline (bitartate)
250 MG Centrophenoxine
2.5 MG Hydergine

Thats what I take on a daily basis. These are the "essentials" and then if you want you can add picamilone, huperzine-a, Sulbutiamine, etc.... I wouldnt take them without piracetam/hydergine/choline.

[CognitiveNutrition]

1,000 MG L-Phenylalanine
5 MG Deprenyl
1,500 MG Piracetam
250 MG Choline (bitartate)
250 MG Centrophenoxine
2.5 MG Hydergine

Thats what I take on a daily basis. These are the "essentials" and then if you want you can add picamilone, huperzine-a, Sulbutiamine, etc.... I wouldnt take them without piracetam/hydergine/choline.

Where do you get your nootropics from?

[GeneGnomeX]

1,000 MG L-Phenylalanine
5 MG Deprenyl
1,500 MG Piracetam
250 MG Choline (bitartate)
250 MG Centrophenoxine
2.5 MG Hydergine

Thats what I take on a daily basis. These are the "essentials" and then if you want you can add picamilone, huperzine-a, Sulbutiamine, etc.... I wouldnt take them without piracetam/hydergine/choline.

5mg dep daily at age 20??

[CognitiveNutrition]

5mg dep daily at age 20??

Weird especially for someones first post on BB.

[NoNameNecessary]

Sorry for the delay.

I have started up some new logs, and I just finished off my Sulbutiamine. I have a few capsules of PEA left, but thats it...so I will be wrapping this log up.

I have always been taking my Sulbutiamine with my breakfast. I usually eat around 6 whole eggs so it is 20+ grams of fat for breakfast. I just never really felt a significant increase in energy. When I did cardio I noticed that energy stayed longer, but it was not too much of a difference.

I will be working on reviews tonight and hopefully get them up tonight or sometime tomorrow

I look forward to reading your final review.

[Apostle X]

I look forward to reading your final review.

oops forgot to add my final review link, I can't find anything thanks to my bodyspace not working properly

Here are my final reviews:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3830131

I will be adding PEA today, and try to get everything else added soon

[fibercarbon]

bump on this stack.. good **** bro

[CognitiveNutrition]

oops forgot to add my final review link, I can't find anything thanks to my bodyspace not working properly

Here are my final reviews:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3830131

I will be adding PEA today, and try to get everything else added soon

Now thats a review!!