DieselWeasel's Lifting Journal

[DieselWeasel]

DIESEL WHERES THE GRIP WORK? *cries*

im gonna win the races if you dont kick some ass soon :D

nice press der sir.

I want to do farmer's walks tomorrow, but there is still ice on the driveway and my arm might still be hurt. We'll see.

[PitzaPapa]

I want to do farmer's walks tomorrow, but there is still ice on the driveway and my arm might still be hurt. We'll see.

dont forget about the deck tear too.

i gotta get my ass out and do some farmers too. damn winter. ive just been doing farmer holds lately.

[DieselWeasel]

03/07/06 - Lower Body

Box Squat
135x8
185x3
225x3

- new, lower box


ATG Front Squat (new)
95x3
135x3
185x3

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_boxsquat_225x3_ATGFront_185x3
- Both exercises are in the video.

[PitzaPapa]

those front squats werent ass to grass, they were elbows to knees :)

ye i coined that phrase.

e2k squats

[DieselWeasel]

those front squats werent ass to grass, they were elbows to knees :)

ye i coined that phrase.

e2k squats

Get a patent, bitch. ;)

[PitzaPapa]

e2k©

[DieselWeasel]

e2k©

You win. :D

[Krollmonster]

DW,
Box squats are looking better. For the front squats it is good that you can get low. I think you can benefit from getting your calves a bit looser though. There is a slight heel raise on your front squats. Looser calves will let you keep your heels driving through the ground = more weight.

One drill you can do is with an empty bar, grab the bar like you are about to front squat it. Then while keeping the bar in the same place, stretch your arms out in front of you like you are a mummy. Then do your front squats. If your positioning and flexibility is on, it will be easy after a while. Plus, it will transfer onto your working sets with weight. Check out the Dimas OL video floating around to see him hold the weight in this manner.

Sometimes when I am doing working sets of 3 in the front squat, I will do 2 reps regular, then for the third rep with my arms outstretched. But I haven't done this with more than 70% of my max weight.

[DieselWeasel]

DW,
Box squats are looking better. For the front squats it is good that you can get low. I think you can benefit from getting your calves a bit looser though. There is a slight heel raise on your front squats. Looser calves will let you keep your heels driving through the ground = more weight.

One drill you can do is with an empty bar, grab the bar like you are about to front squat it. Then while keeping the bar in the same place, stretch your arms out in front of you like you are a mummy. Then do your front squats. If your positioning and flexibility is on, it will be easy after a while. Plus, it will transfer onto your working sets with weight. Check out the Dimas OL video floating around to see him hold the weight in this manner.

Sometimes when I am doing working sets of 3 in the front squat, I will do 2 reps regular, then for the third rep with my arms outstretched. But I haven't done this with more than 70% of my max weight.

Thanks for the advice.

[moomoomonkeys]

have you ever did atg back squats diesel
nice fronts and box squats

[sword chucks]

gj

[DieselWeasel]

sword chucks: Thanks.

moomoomonkeys: No, I should try ATG back squats. Thanks for the suggestion.

[DieselWeasel]

03/10/06 - Pull

Rack Pull
135x8
225x3
315x3
405x1
V suit straps up V
495 x partial <= I lifted it up to an inch or two above my knees.

- 1st pin
The bottom of the 45s were three inches above the ground at the start of the pull.


Bent-Over Barbell Row
135x8
230x5
230x5


Underhand Lat Pulldown
8th setting x 8
16th setting x 5 (+1 setting PR)
16th setting x 5


Good Morning
95x8
195x8 (+5lb PR)


03/12/06 - Push

I wanted to do weighted dips after the first two exercises, but my right arm was acting up because of the armwrestling that I did, two weeks ago.

Power Close Grip Bench Press
95x8
135x3
165x3
190x2 <= I couldn't do a third rep.
190x2
190x2


Hang Clean (new)
65x5
95x5
135x2
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_hangclean_135x2

- I need to try to get under the bar better with the heavier weight.

[Heisman2]

Allow me to give you some tips on the hang cleans...

1. Start with the bar just above your knees.
2. Have your shoulders be in front of the bar (very different from a regular deadlift).
3. Pull the bar straight up your body. It should not go in front of you. If you look at how you catch the bar on the second one, you'll see that your elbows point toward the floor and your hands are a couple of inches from your shoulders. You want the bar to bascally go straight up and you should pull yourself down under the bar so you can catch it in the right position with your elbows high.
4. Try to pop the bar upward with your hips. It is perfectly fine for the bar to touch your body before it explodes upward.
5. The angle of your back at the start of the hang clean should be the same as the angle of your back when you first pull it off the floor. To get the bar up to your knees, you should pretty much just use your legs and your back should remain at a constant angle.

Lastly, I would drop the weight and work on form. Dead serious about this. Many O-lifters spend weeks when they start with a broomstick or empty bar mastering the correct form.

[Krollmonster]

Good to see that you want to introduce some Oly lifts in your training, but like Heisman said, there is a lot of technique work to do. Considering that you are used to deadlifting with some rounding of the back, you will have to work on keeping a nice arch in your back during OL movements.

[DieselWeasel]

Thanks for the tips, guys.

[PitzaPapa]

that wasnt no hang clean

that was a hang dirty :D

its too easy to make jokes with oly lifts with names like hang, snatch, clean etc.

[DieselWeasel]

that wasnt no hang clean

that was a hang dirty :D

its too easy to make jokes with oly lifts with names like hang, snatch, clean etc.

My **** hangs dirty, son! :cool:

[DieselWeasel]

03/13/06 - Lower Body

I looked everywhere and couldn't find the wooden box that I used last week, so instead of the box squat and ATG front squat, I did the ATG front squat and zercher squat.

ATG Front Squat
45x8
95x3
135x3
160x3
190x5 (+5lb and +2 rep PR)


Zercher Squat
135x3
185x3
205x3 (+5lb PR)

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_ATGFront_190x5_zsquat_205x3
- Both exercises are in the video.

[Squats]

Max, on the box squats, stand a few inches in front of the box and SIT THE **** BACK, you'll get a lot more power out of the hips.

[DieselWeasel]

Max, on the box squats, stand a few inches in front of the box and SIT THE **** BACK, you'll get a lot more power out of the hips.

I think I did a good job of sitting back on the wooden box, last week. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Krollmonster]

Front squats looking better. Try moving your grip out a bit and practice letting the bar roll to your fingertips. Your fingers don't bear the weight, they just hold the position while your clavicles/front delts bear the weight. It will make it easier to stay upright.

Check out this vid and watch his finger/wrist positioning.
By the way, this guy has the WR C&J. His fingers/wrists certainly couldn't handle this weight.

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KHZUVMOAZABS07HSCBJY3OJNI

[DieselWeasel]

Front squats looking better. Try moving your grip out a bit and practice letting the bar roll to your fingertips. Your fingers don't bear the weight, they just hold the position while your clavicles/front delts bear the weight. It will make it easier to stay upright.

Check out this vid and watch his finger/wrist positioning.
By the way, this guy has the WR C&J. His fingers/wrists certainly couldn't handle this weight.

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KHZUVMOAZABS07HSCBJY3OJNI

I brought my hands in a little closer yesterday during the ATG front squats and I think it felt better than the last few weeks. It just feels more natural for me like that.

Also, it looks to me like he was using wrist straps instead of the clean grip in that video. That's another method that people use besides the arms crossed and clean grip.

[Squats]

I think I did a good job of sitting back on the wooden box, last week. Thanks for the suggestion.
I saw the video dude, you went straight down.

[DieselWeasel]

I saw the video dude, you went straight down.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, I believe that you're wrong after watching it again, a moment ago.

[Squats]

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, I believe that you're wrong after watching it again, a moment ago.
Are your hamstrings sore?

[DieselWeasel]

Are your hamstrings sore?

Are you asking about possible hamstring soreness from the box squats that I did not last lower body day, but the one before that? I don't remember that far back.

FYI, my hamstrings sometimes get sore from good mornings which is odd. That is pretty much the only thing that gets them sore, these days, I believe.

[Squats]

Are you asking about possible hamstring soreness from the box squats that I did not last lower body day, but the one before that? I don't remember that far back.

FYI, my hamstrings sometimes get sore from good mornings which is odd. That is pretty much the only thing that gets them sore, these days, I believe.
Exactly.

[DieselWeasel]

Exactly.

Can you elaborate on your one word post please?

[Squats]

Can you elaborate on your one word post please?
Every time someone helps you, you never seem to listen or take the advice to heart.

And don't get me wrong, I know what you'll post next as well...just another excuse.

[dirtpool]

Can you elaborate on your one word post please?

I think he's trying to say that your hamstrings would get sore from the box squats if you sat back...(not that I watched the video or anything)


nice ATG front squats, good song too haha

[DieselWeasel]

Every time someone helps you, you never seem to listen or take the advice to heart.

And don't get me wrong, I know what you'll post next as well...just another excuse.

Kiss my ass, you stupid son of a bitch.

dirtpool: Thanks for doing what Squats was supposed to do. However, I believe that my hamstrings will only get sore from exercises that hit the posterior chain, such as the deadlift, SLDL, GM and zercher lifts.

Yeah, Sevendust is cool. :)

[Krollmonster]

I brought my hands in a little closer yesterday during the ATG front squats and I think it felt better than the last few weeks. It just feels more natural for me like that.

Also, it looks to me like he was using wrist straps instead of the clean grip in that video. That's another method that people use besides the arms crossed and clean grip.

In the vid, he only has two fingers on the bar. If your grip width is more comfortable, stick with it. I used to use quite a narrow grip on cleans and after getting comfortable over time I use a wider grip. Remember not to let your elbow drop as you descend into the front squat.

[Krollmonster]

Here is a good pic of the back position you should have in OL movements.

http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1XDDG9RKSXPJW34PUS0OLL45IH

[BPP]

hamstrings sometimes get sore from good mornings which is odd

how is that odd? GM's work mainly lower back and hammies...


Kiss my ass, you stupid son of a bitch.



and you wonder why you attract the negative attention :rolleyes:

[BPP]

watch tommy fannon's box squat vids for a good role model for box squats


and dude, work on those hang cleans...i dont know why you've never been doing them, its the same motion as a log clean

[AJ010]

lol yeah them some ugly hang cleans, but if you listen to Heismans advice, youre going to do a lot better on them, no doubt

just remember you cant cheat a hang clean, so pretty much better form = more weight lifted id say

[Mateo_66]

03/07/06 - Lower Body

Box Squat
135x8
185x3
225x3

- new, lower box


ATG Front Squat (new)
95x3
135x3
185x3

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_boxsquat_225x3_ATGFront_185x3
- Both exercises are in the video.


Good squatting! Something I have learned over the years with box squats is try not to hug the box with your feet like that always keep your feet a fair distance in front of the box so that when you sit on the box your shins are angled more than 90 degrees with your upperleg(femur). This will give you a lot better leverage and work the hips, glutes, and hamstrings a lot more effectively. Good job and keep up the hard work.

[Mateo_66]

On the hang cleans after you rack the weight(finishing postion) just drop it back down to your thighs(Dont bring it back down so slow). You can also pop your feet out to the sides a little bit(instead of chasing the weight forward). But dont pop them out to wide just to about your pressing stance for the log clean and press. Keep up the training man. Also was that a Metal Deadlift suit you was wearing in that deadlift video?

[DieselWeasel]

Mateo_66: Thanks for the tips. I'm wearing an IPF Metal Squatter suit in all of my more recent deadlift training videos.


03/15/06 - Pull

The 475x1 deadlift was definitely not clean, but it wasn't nearly as bad as the 485x1 attempt/fiasco. Plus, I definitely locked it out this time, not like when I tried 485. My previous best was 470x1.5, during the Coan/Phillipi routine on 12/24/05.

Deadlift
135x8
225x3
315x3
405x1
V suit straps up V
475x1* (+5lb PR)

* hitched


Bent-Over Barbell Row
135x8
185x5
235x5
235x5


Underhand Lat Pulldown
8th setting x 8
12th setting x 5
16th setting x 8 (+3 rep PR)


Good Morning
95x8
155x5
205x5 (+10lb PR)

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_475x1_GM_205x5
- The 475x1 deadlift and 205x5 GM are both in that video.

[Newbtime]

GODAMNIT U BITCH STOP ****IN HITCHING U PEICE OF ****! :mad:















:D :D :D :D :D Really though, Gota break that habbit dude, It looked like that **** flew up, Then you just leant back and started hitching, Even though it looked like it wasnt needed.

Nice song btw.

[DieselWeasel]

GODAMNIT U BITCH STOP ****IN HITCHING U PEICE OF ****! :mad:















:D :D :D :D Really though, Gota break that habbit dude, It looked like that **** flew up, Then you just leant back and started hitching, Even though it looked like it wasnt needed.

Nice song btw.

Yeah, I know it's a stupid, ****ty habit. But it's tough to totally kill it though. It's like how I smoke a cigarette occasionally even though I quit in the beginning of 2004. ;)

[PitzaPapa]

you will get it out of your system deez, just keep reminding urself not to do it every time you deadlift, pull them big weights just like you do the little ones.

those gm's looked pretty good from what i saw.
keep bringing up those gm's, and all your other lifts will go up too.

once you pull your goal of 495 clean, you will be a new man :), and shutup a lot of haters and critics. not all of them though, because your an e-celeb, every celeb has haters :D

[LiftingKid]

That 475 looked very strong up until lockout. Once you break the hitching habit, it will be time for a new max :)

[Mateo_66]

Try some just above knee rack deadlifts to try and correct that hitching habit. The heavier weight lifted in the rack deads might help to not hitch when you go from the floor. (you also look extremely strong from the floor). It could also double for grip work.

[DieselWeasel]

03/19/06 - Push

Close/Medium Grip Bench Press
95x8
135x3
165x3
190x3 (+1 rep PR)
190x3 (+1 rep PR)
190x3 (+1 rep PR)

- My hands were 1-2" wider than last week.


Clean and Jerk or Press
95x5 (jerk)
135x1 (jerk)
160x1 (jerk)
185x1 clean*, 0 jerk or press (+10lb clean PR)
175x1 (clean and press) <= I wanted to jerk it, but it ended up being pressed instead.

* continental


Dip
BWx5
BW+25x5
BW+25x5
BW+25x5

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_clean_185_cleanpress_175x1
- The second exercise (cont. clean and clean+press) is in the video.


03/20/06 - Lower Body

ATG Front Squat
45x8
95x3
135x3
165x3
195x5 (+5lb PR)


Zercher Squat
135x5
210x3 (+5lb PR)

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_ATGFront_195x5_zsquat_210x3
- Both exercises are in the video.

[BPP]

ugh, awful clean and even worse "leg drive" for the press

you corrected deadlift issues, now work on these, and youll see a LARGE improvement in your log press

[DieselWeasel]

ugh, awful clean and even worse "leg drive" for the press

you corrected deadlift issues, now work on these, and youll see a LARGE improvement in your log press

I wasn't trying to push press the 175; I wanted to jerk it, like I stated above, but it turned into almost a strict press. Lesson of the day: Always poo before a workout even if it's barely noticable. That feeling in my guts caused me to be just a bit off.

[BPP]

I wasn't trying to push press the 175; I wanted to jerk it, like I stated above, but it turned into almost a strict press. Lesson of the day: Always poo before a workout even if it's barely noticable. That feeling in my guts caused me to be just a bit off.

im talking about 185

[DieselWeasel]

im talking about 185

Yeah, but you also mentioned the press.

I admit the clean was ugly; that's why I called it a continental clean which is what it was, not a power clean.

[BPP]

Yeah, but you also mentioned the press.

I admit the clean was ugly; that's why I called it a continental clean which is what it was, not a power clean.

yeah, the attempted press to 185

[Mateo_66]

That really wasnt a continental clean as I thought the continental began off the belt or the the crook of the hips. That is what I call a "limbo" clean as you limboed back to rack it. Never do that dude it is really tough on the back. Learn to drop a little under the weight instead of using all upper body. I would do some dumbbell hang snatches(focus on dropping body under the weight) and dumbell hang cleans to perfect your form. Also you said the press had to be a jerk? I believe the jerk allows a foot to be thrusted back in an explosive movement, That looked more like a military press. Also I know the log press is a very akward movement I think it would be vital for you to get your hands on a Hammer curl bar or do Hammer curls as this is the position your hand is on the log correct?(Or it is from what I have seen) Good luck with your training dude. Hope I make sense and dont sound like I am blowing too much smoke out my @$$!;)

[Squats]

Why even train this way if you know it's bad. Strip the weight off and do something you know you can do and just add 5 lbs. next week and if you fail that's okay. But your going to wind up in a hospital some day.

[Heisman2]

You bend your arms WAY too early.

[ukstrongman]

Try pulling the bar higher on the power clean and try to invlove more hips in the movement. On the press, take 2 secs at least to recover from the clean. Use your leg drive to get the bar up almost to lockout, and rely on your triceps to finish it. I have never been able to leg drive it all the way up, I always have to use my tris to achieve lockout.

This is my first look at your journal, some nice lifting going on. Subscribing.

[Krollmonster]

DW, those are some ugly cleans man. If you wanna get the technique, you are going to have to humble yourself and lighten the weights. Check out fortifiediron.net and go to olympic lifting forum. Search for posts on cleans. You can even post a vid there for instructions. They helped me tons, especially since I have no coach.

Just to be clear: a split jerk and push press start with the same leg drive.

With a push press, after the leg drive you press it out.
With a jerk, after the leg drive you quickly split catching the weight overhead with arms locked. You are not allowed to press it out.

[DieselWeasel]

yeah, the attempted press to 185

No, it was an attempted jerk with 185. You can see my legs split somewhat when I tried to jerk it.

Squats: You're wrong.

Heismann: I will try to work on that.

ukstrongman: Like I told bpp, it was a failed jerk with 185, not a press. I will probably try to push press 185, next push day. I don't know exactly why but I can seemingly press more than I can jerk, probably because of lack of technique and experience with the split jerk.

Mateo_66: Thanks for the advice. I still think that 185 clean was a continental. Yeah, the only two types of curl that I do is the dumbbell hammer curl and thickbar curl. FYI, I'm not training for the sole purpose of increasing my log press strength. I also want to get stronger with the barbell clean and press, thickbar clean+press and barbell bench press.

Krollmonster: I was banned from FI a while ago, so I can't go there for info. Thanks for the clarification regarding leg drive for both the split jerk and push press.

[Squats]

Squats: You're wrong.

You didn't even answer the statement correctly, I can tell you got a D in English.

[AJ010]

That's not a continental clean really. That's just wrong. Start the clean on the belt for a continential clean, since you wear a belt. if youre going to pull the bar up to your sternum or something, you might as well just powerclean it.

------------------------------------------

Also, if you're going to do a jerk, split those legs WAY more!

[Mateo_66]

http://www.usawa.com/frank.jpg This is a true continental but you can also start it in the crook of the hips. I feel that the log press is your weak point that is the only reason I address it so often.

[Mateo_66]

http://iowastrong.com/continental.html here is some more info on the continental style clean.

[Squats]

Look who got entered!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bps-JAxRDGo

[Newbtime]

Look who got entered!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bps-JAxRDGo
It is almost as if you WANT to start flaming, Negged.

[Squats]

It is almost as if you WANT to start flaming, Negged.
OMG, looks like someone just cut off my balls. :rolleyes:

[Newbtime]

OMG, looks like someone just cut off my balls. :rolleyes:
Take you're stupid **** else where.

[Squats]

Take you're stupid **** else where.
LOL

Anyway, I have been flamming back forth with DW for a while. So it's nothing new.

[BPP]

No, it was an attempted jerk with 185. You can see my legs split somewhat when I tried to jerk it.


yeah, the second time after you tried to push press it and failed

either way, none of it was good in any way, and still showed me weak leg drive

[AJ010]

lol dee dubs youre just playing a word game with proppy. Call it what you want man, but it was attempted.

I'd say proppys right. You still need to bend down more, and split those legs baby!!

[DieselWeasel]

yeah, the second time after you tried to push press it and failed

either way, none of it was good in any way, and still showed me weak leg drive

No, I did two attempts to jerk it, not one push press attempt and one jerk attempt. Watch my legs during both attempts.

I was glad that I was able to basically strict press 175. That felt good.

[AJ010]

lol you know I mean no offense, but that wasnt close to a strict overhead press. I can pop a lot more, at least 20lbs, squatting that much down.

I just tried now on spur of moment to see the difference. 135 in 2 seconds or so compared to 135 in less than a second. Didnt bend down much either, so yeah.

[DieselWeasel]

lol you know I mean no offense, but that wasnt close to a strict overhead press. I can pop a lot more, at least 20lbs, squatting that much down.

I just tried now on spur of moment to see the difference. 135 in 2 seconds or so compared to 135 in less than a second. Didnt bend down much either, so yeah.

I watched the video again. There was very little leg drive with the 175 press, much less than what I usually do with the log or thickbar. I'm not saying that it was 100% strict, but close to it.

[AJ010]

whatever man, i bent down that much and it made a big difference for me, very noticeable. I'd say you could push 150 strict maybe

[DieselWeasel]

whatever man, i bent down that much and it made a big difference for me, very noticeable. I'd say you could push 150 strict maybe

Whatever is right. That **** was minimal.

150? I laugh at 150.

185, next week. I will actually use some leg drive and pwn that ****.

[Newbtime]

LOL

Anyway, I have been flamming back forth with DW for a while. So it's nothing new.
Because you are an idiot with nothing better to do.

[AJ010]

lol minimal but not strict ...

lol 150 strict dude...im talking legs and back straighter than 6 o clock (exaggeration)

you could probably get 185-195 no problem with even more leg drive than the noticeable assistance you got today from it :cool:

[DieselWeasel]

lol minimal but not strict at ...

lol 150 strict dude...im talking legs and back straighter than 6 o clock

you could probably get 185 no problem with even more leg drive than the noticeable assistance you got today from it :cool:

Today was my pull day. I did push two days ago.

[AJ010]

I know.

[DieselWeasel]

I know.

No, actually I did legs two days ago and push three days ago.

[Squats]

Because you are an idiot with nothing better to do.
Pretty much on the days I have off from training and work.

[ukstrongman]

Look who got entered!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bps-JAxRDGo

LOL SQUATS! CRAAAZY HITCHING AND ARCHING THERE. The casualty room is gonna have work to do:D

[DieselWeasel]

03/22/06 - Pull

Rack Pull
135x8
225x3
315x3
405x1
V suit straps up V
500x1 (+5lb PR)

- 2nd Pin


T-Bar Row w/ Barbell (new)
90x8
135x5
180x5
225x5


Underhand Lat Pulldown
7th setting x 5
12th setting x 5
17th setting x 5 (+5lb PR)


Good Morning
95x5
155x5
210x5 (+5lb PR)

- It looks like I bent my knees less than last week which is good, but next time I will try to get it recorded from a side view to analyze it better.

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_rackpull_2ndpin_500x1
- The 500x1 rack pull, 225x5 t-bar row w/ barbell and 210x5 GM are in the video.

[BPP]

good rack pull bro, way to fight it without hitching it all the way up..MUCH better! only advice id give is to start a bit closer to the bar, makes it easier for proper form to lock in sooner...when your away from the bar(shin wise) at the start like that its more comfortable, but also kinda forced too much lower back into it...great pull though

decent rows...I'd say arch your back a bit, and sit a bit higher body angle wise, in order to allow more room with the lower ROM

lastly, why do you wear a belt for GM's? it seems you're becoming overly reliant upon wearing the belt...the entire point OF gm's is low back/hamstring work, so why wear the belt?


also, the funny thing about the vid squats posted...it just shows you've come along way in alot of exercises..keep it up

[Krollmonster]

DW, seems like you do most of your lifting with a rounded back (back squats, deads, gms). I think you should practice lifting with your back arched too...such as on SLDL or good mornings. Do them just moving at the hips and the chest out. It will blow up your hammies. If you don't get better at keeping your back arched, you are gonna have a tough time getting better at cleans. Rack pulls looking good.

[DieselWeasel]

good rack pull bro, way to fight it without hitching it all the way up..MUCH better! only advice id give is to start a bit closer to the bar, makes it easier for proper form to lock in sooner...when your away from the bar(shin wise) at the start like that its more comfortable, but also kinda forced too much lower back into it...great pull though

decent rows...I'd say arch your back a bit, and sit a bit higher body angle wise, in order to allow more room with the lower ROM

lastly, why do you wear a belt for GM's? it seems you're becoming overly reliant upon wearing the belt...the entire point OF gm's is low back/hamstring work, so why wear the belt?


also, the funny thing about the vid squats posted...it just shows you've come along way in alot of exercises..keep it up

I thought that I was closer to the bar when I did the rack pull. I will try to work on that.

The t-bar row w/ barbell is definitely a badass exercise. :cool:

I use a belt for my last set or two of GMs because I thought most people do that.

Krollmonster: I try to keep my back arched but it's difficult when the weight gets heavy.

[BPP]

I thought that I was closer to the bar when I did the rack pull. I will try to work on that.

The t-bar row w/ barbell is definitely a badass exercise. :cool:

I use a belt for my last set or two of GMs because I thought most people do that.

watched it a second time you did move closer than you originally stood, so its not too bad, but can always be closer :D

nah, I never wear belt for those....belt only goes on for heavy overhead pressing, squats, deadlifts..thats about it

and never for any higher rep heavy work...belt further cuts off ability to breath, so for anything like conans, etc, it hurts you to wear it due to the airflow



Krollmonster: I try keep my back arched but it's difficult when the weight gets heavy.


but especially in training, develop those muscles and support instead of usin the belt too much

[AJ010]

No, actually I did legs two days ago and push three days ago.

lol Same difference man. doesnt have to be exact

[Krollmonster]

Krollmonster: I try to keep my back arched but it's difficult when the weight gets heavy.

Just keep the weight where you can stay tight.
It just takes practice. Since I OL I am very good at keeping a tight arch, but I couldn't lift $hit with my back rounded.

[DieselWeasel]

Just keep the weight where you can stay tight.
It just takes practice. Since I OL I am very good at keeping a tight arch, but I couldn't lift $hit with my back rounded.

But it's so damn tempting to pile on the weight! :D

[Mateo_66]

Nice rack deads dude! I would prolly move the pins up one more height and do at least 5 reps working up to 420-450 to destroy that hitching delima. Focus on pushing the hips through the lift.(Should almost look like your humping the bar) You round your shoulders very well.(This is a good thing because it elongates your arms shortening the range of motion which is what you want to lift maximal weights). Your lower back looked pretty tight throughout the rack lift. Also on the Goodmornings the form looked perfect and the depth looked plenty good you could prolly even go a little higher. Also a belt aint bad to wear on your heaviest sets of goodmornings but shouldnt be used for your lighter sets.(Sure you prolly know that) Was that the long sleeved "Powerlifting-world's strongest sport" shirt form elitefts? I want one of those!

[PitzaPapa]

nice pull deez

burn the belt :)

[DieselWeasel]

Nice rack deads dude! I would prolly move the pins up one more height and do at least 5 reps working up to 420-450 to destroy that hitching delima. Focus on pushing the hips through the lift.(Should almost look like your humping the bar) You round your shoulders very well.(This is a good thing because it elongates your arms shortening the range of motion which is what you want to lift maximal weights). Your lower back looked pretty tight throughout the rack lift. Also on the Goodmornings the form looked perfect and the depth looked plenty good you could prolly even go a little higher. Also a belt aint bad to wear on your heaviest sets of goodmornings but shouldnt be used for your lighter sets.(Sure you prolly know that) Was that the long sleeved "Powerlifting-world's strongest sport" shirt form elitefts? I want one of those!

Yeah, I'm not going to wear the belt when I do any of my GM warmup sets.

Yes, I was wearing that EliteFTS 3/4 sleeve shirt along with a white long sleeve shirt underneath it. I also have and wear the Metal baseball cap and the Darkside beanie which I'm currently wearing as I type this.

PitzaPapa: Thanks, bro. The belt is my friend. :D

[AJ010]

Nice rack deads dude! I would prolly move the pins up one more height and do at least 5 reps working up to 420-450 to destroy that hitching delima. Focus on pushing the hips through the lift.(Should almost look like your humping the bar) You round your shoulders very well.(This is a good thing because it elongates your arms shortening the range of motion which is what you want to lift maximal weights). Your lower back looked pretty tight throughout the rack lift. Also on the Goodmornings the form looked perfect and the depth looked plenty good you could prolly even go a little higher. Also a belt aint bad to wear on your heaviest sets of goodmornings but shouldnt be used for your lighter sets.(Sure you prolly know that) Was that the long sleeved "Powerlifting-world's strongest sport" shirt form elitefts? I want one of those!

Hell, I'd recommend unbelted rack pulls too :)

[DieselWeasel]

OMGZ!@!!!1111ONEONE!@#_*@$

http://media.putfile.com/max_pull_progress

:cool: :cool: :cool:

[Vegetto991]

Diesel you are a joke man

[PitzaPapa]

cool vid deez. whats up with all them black guys in your vid always watching you. lol

you got fried chicken on your back?

[Newbtime]

Diesel you are a joke man
Says the scum of the boards. :D :rolleyes:

[Vegetto991]

Says the scum of the boards. :D :rolleyes:
at least I dont lift like that

[DieselWeasel]

cool vid deez. whats up with all them black guys in your vid always watching you. lol

you got fried chicken on your back?

KFC is my official sponsor. :cool:

[AJ010]

Diesel you are a joke man

**** you Vegetto, the way you benched was a ****ing joke.

Diesel didn't start any of this, so don't talk **** in his journal.

[envirocopy512]

But it's so damn tempting to pile on the weight! :D
A temptation you've succumbed to time and time again at the expense of your back....

[Newbtime]

A temptation you've succumbed to time and time again at the expense of your back....
Says the d00d deadlifting 225.

[DieselWeasel]

Says the d00d deadlifting 225.

Hey, 225 is hardcore! ;)

[Newbtime]

Hey, 225 is hardcore! ;)
Tomarrow i am benching 225 for 5 sets of 5, RAWWWWWWWW.

[AJ010]

capital raaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

5x5...sick dude. Aint nuttin but a peanut!

[Diana Meeque]

Says the d00d deadlifting 225.

who cares if its only 225...? at least hes not doing more while risking injuring himself.

[envirocopy512]

Hey, 225 is hardcore! ;)
The entire point is that I'm not too proud to admit when I need to work on my form. Deadlifts are one of the most difficult exercises to perform correctly. And you're not doing it even close to right--you've never even bothered to learn the basics of the lift, Diesel. Your knees are buckled in, your back is rounded before you even lift the weight, your chest is sucked in......its like you're not even doing a deadlift. It looks more like a drunken marriage of the barbell row and good morning. Your legs don't even look like they're working at all....

I honestly believe that this "use whatever means necessary to get the weight up" attitude of yours affords a person about 100lbs more than what they're capable of doing with proper form. Take what the other 947 members here are saying to heart and drop the ego. Served.

[Newbtime]

who cares if its only 225...? at least hes not doing more while risking injuring himself.
:rolleyes:

What a great excuse for being a weak pussy. "Yea, Atleast im a weak little ****, I won't get injured!"

And you're not doing it even close to right--
Why don't you show him how? Mr. deadlift expert.

All sarcasm aside, He is doing deadlifts correctly.

#1, In his 475 deadlift video with a hitch, His back was not rounded. Nothing was very bad.

#2 The only actual bad thing he did was hitch, Witch is allowed in strongman-Guess what, He is a strongman.




I honestly believe that this "use whatever means necessary to get the weight up" attitude of yours affords a person about 100lbs more than what they're capable of doing with proper form.
Aparrently you do not watch diesle's video's, At all.

He deadlifted 405x4 with 0 hitching, And perfect form, Easy, Till he hitched do to a habbit on the 5th rep.

405x4 would be about a 450+ max. And max sure as hell has never deadlifted 550 with poor form.

Godamn you are a imbecile.

[Diana Meeque]

:rolleyes:

What a great excuse for being a weak pussy. "Yea, Atleast im a weak little ****, I won't get injured!"

Why don't you show him how? Mr. deadlift expert.

All sarcasm aside, He is doing deadlifts correctly.

#1, In his 475 deadlift video with a hitch, His back was not rounded. Nothing was very bad.

#2 The only actual bad thing he did was hitch, Witch is allowed in strongman-Guess what, He is a strongman.

everyone starts somewhere.....don't be a dick because he doesnt lift as much as some people. what did you start at? theres a ton of guys who could call YOU a weak little pussy....but do they?

[Newbtime]

everyone starts somewhere.....don't be a dick because he doesnt lift as much as some people. what did you start at? theres a ton of guys who could call YOU a weak little pussy....but do they?
That is true, I started at a 205 deadlift.

But guess what? I didn't go out on the internet, Hide behind my keyboard, And tell people lifting 250+ lbs more then me they are weak and tiny.

Diesle sent me the aim convo this douche had with him. He called diesle a weak tiny bitch ( or somthing like that) And it turns out this clown is deadlifting 225. *irony*

[envirocopy512]

Godamn you are a imbecile.
All right guys, I think we got a family member here....stupidity of this level has to be genetic. I truly am imbecile, along the other 1000 people who have had nothing but negative things to say about this guys "lifting."

I'm just in awe that you would criticize anyones lifts when you look like a damn epileptic in the gym. That last dumbell exercise you posted looks like you're using the weight as a shield. Props on whatever you call that one.

[Newbtime]

All right guys, I think we got a family member here....stupidity of this level has to be genetic. I truly am imbecile, along the other 1000 people who have had nothing but negative things to say about this guys "lifting."

You shine out from the crowd.

You actualy took time to im him, And tell him how stupid and weak he was

When 1), He could outlift you good for or bad form, Anyday of the week.
2) You you'eself are a beginer, That cannot even deadlift 3 plates.

You also took the time to make a thread, Insulting him. Really such a great member of this board you are.

Don't forget you're "weak bitch" comment over aim to him also.

But yes, I really like how you chopped out about 1500 points i made to you, And ignored them, Because you are an arrogant fool and have nothing to say, But you just cannot allow you'reself to shut up.

[DieselWeasel]

All right guys, I think we got a family member here....stupidity of this level has to be genetic. I truly am imbecile, along the other 1000 people who have had nothing but negative things to say about this guys "lifting."

I'm just in awe that you would criticize anyones lifts when you look like a damn epileptic in the gym. That last dumbell exercise you posted looks like you're using the weight as a shield. Props on whatever you call that one.

It is called a bent press. Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean it's not a functional exercise.

http://www.americanpowerliftevolution.net/BentPressPage.html

[envirocopy512]

Diesle sent me the aim convo this douche had with him. He called diesle a weak tiny bitch ( or somthing like that) And it turns out this clown is deadlifting 225. *irony*
Oh yea, lets season things with a little slander. I told your ass buddy here he was gonna hurt his back. All diesel had to say in return was I lift baby weights. I told him he was doing more than he could handle. So has everyone else. Don't be puttin' no words in my mouth like that. And I could've easily just have lied. My point in telling my true deadlifting weight was there's no shame in doing less weight with PROPER form. For crying out loud, I'd think that would be obvious by now...seven years of "training", should've kicked the ego by now...

[nutbusterenato]

Says the d00d deadlifting 225.
atleast he will will be able to keep deadlifting for years to come unlike diesal

[DieselWeasel]

You shine out from the crowd.

You actualy took time to im him, And tell him how stupid and weak he was

When 1), He could outlift you good for or bad form, Anyday of the week.
2) You you'eself are a beginer, That cannot even deadlift 3 plates.

You also took the time to make a thread, Insulting him. Really such a great member of this board you are.

Don't forget you're "weak bitch" comment over aim to him also.

He actually made two threads. The "clown" thread in the misc. section and an "O/T" thread in the supplements section.

[envirocopy512]

He actually made two threads. The "clown" thread in the misc. section and an "O/T" thread in the supplements section.
That's some fine detective work...

[DieselWeasel]

That's some fine detective work...

No ****, Sherlock. :rolleyes:

[envirocopy512]

It is called a bent press. Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean it's not a functional exercise.

http://www.americanpowerliftevolution.net/BentPressPage.html
You didn't press it though...you just awkwardly held it over your head like an umbrella and almost fell over....

Seriously, none of your lifts look anything like they're suppose to.

[Newbtime]

I told your ass buddy here he was gonna hurt his back.
Along with:


SoCoPIMP : good call moron
SoCoPIMP: plowin' your buddies in the iraqi sun
SoCoPIMP: tacowned.

I could go on copying and pasting you're childish comments, It goes on for ages.

Oh yea, lets season things with a little slander.
Are you kidding? I am not allowed to slander you're name when you just spent 30 mins aim convo, and 2 threads doing it to deisle?


atleast he will will be able to keep deadlifting for years to come unlike diesal
Are you mentaly retarded? How is hitching going to destroy one's back? Pleas, I would like to hear you're opinion.

Pro strongman do it all the time.

[envirocopy512]

No ****, Sherlock. :rolleyes:
Christ you're dumb.

[envirocopy512]

SoCoPIMP : good call moron
SoCoPIMP: plowin' your buddies in the iraqi sun
SoCoPIMP: tacowned.

Wow, this does absolutely nothing to prove what you claimed earlier. Your buddy here is making you look like even more of a fool, if thats even possible...

[DieselWeasel]

You didn't press it though...you just awkwardly held it over your head like an umbrella and almost fell over....

Seriously, none of your lifts look anything like they're suppose to.

You know nothing about the exercise yet tell me that my form was wrong. Get a clue and lift some weights. You need to do both.

[nutbusterenato]

You know nothing about the exercise yet tell me that my form was wrong. Get a clue and lift some weights. You need to do both.
bro can u not see that ur lifting form is ****, u need to watch some vids on what is proper form cause you're going to be a criple if you keep this up

[Newbtime]

Wow, this does absolutely nothing to prove what you claimed earlier.
What are you smoking? Seriously?

It proves what i said - you took 30 minutes out of you're day to throw childish insults at dw?

Your buddy here is making you look like even more of a fool, if thats even possible...

Oh mannn you "tacowned" me. :rolleyes:

I said you took 30 mins out of you're day to **** talk dw like a 13 year old - which you did - i just posted part of the convo, Then i said you took the time out of you're day to do the same thing on a public forum, to do the same thing. You can check you're threads you made, They threads are there.

How is this not proving what i said earlier? Or are you just an idiot?

[PitzaPapa]

potatowned
tomatowned
pwnapple
tostitowned
mexicowned

calzowned

[AJ010]

nachowned

[LiftingKid]

uhhh.....owned :D

[nutbusterenato]

Along with:
Are you mentaly retarded? How is hitching going to destroy one's back? Pleas, I would like to hear you're opinion.

Pro strongman do it all the time.


you obviously havnt seen all his videos dip****

[Newbtime]

you obviously havnt seen all his videos dip****
You are so incredibly stupid it amazes me.

His latest video, Which is how he deadlifts currently (he has changed his form, But everyone is too stupid flaming him to realise it) His back is not rounding at all. The only thing he is doing, Is hitching. Which is not bad form, It is just a way of cheating somthing out, But since he is a strongman this is perfectly fine.

Watch his 405x5 deadlift video and his 475. THE RECENT ONES, Not the ones from 8 months ago. :rolleyes:

[PitzaPapa]

uh oh spaghetti owned

[AJ010]

tornadowned

[LiftingKid]

owned :)

[dirtpool]

oreowned

ozowned

[DieselWeasel]

Edgar Allen Pwned! :D

[envirocopy512]

How is this not proving what i said earlier? Or are you just an idiot?
The classic "What are you smoking?" line is far from the spectrum of a 13-year-olds humor, I commend you on that. And what you claimed earlier was that I called him weak when I can dl only 225. Where exactly did I call him weak at any point in that? My entire point was that he has BAD FORM. You just fabricated the entire accusation that I called him a "weak pussy." And this was not a 30 minute chat. Diesel blocked me after about five minutes.

You want to see some real classy ****, here's what you opted to exclude posting:

Diesel Weasel 83: you're weak
SoCoPIMP: you need to do lighter weight
Diesel Weasel 83: 225 is my second warmup set
Diesel Weasel 83: 135, 225, 315, 405, 475
SoCoPIMP: neat man, bet the form is equally bad
SoCoPIMP: if you got bad form, fine thats your business
SoCoPIMP: but dont go around parading your ****

Diesel Weasel 83: ****in newbie
Diesel Weasel 83: 225 is what i deadlifted in high school
Diesel Weasel 83: at 125lbs
Diesel Weasel 83: for reps

Diesel Weasel 83: you're a ***got
SoCoPIMP: cry?
Diesel Weasel 83: eat my dick?
Diesel Weasel 83: PIMP
Diesel Weasel 83: ha
Diesel Weasel 83: bend over?
Diesel Weasel 83: i'll **** you until you love, bitch
SoCoPIMP: yea, ill keep my back good and rounded throughout
Diesel Weasel 83: love me
SoCoPIMP: i know how much you like that
Diesel Weasel 83: i would... i'd make you my bitch
SoCoPIMP: you need to drop your ego
SoCoPIMP: its whats gonna get you hurt
Diesel Weasel 83: come to queens
Diesel Weasel 83: tomorrow
SoCoPIMP: cry?
Diesel Weasel 83: no?
SoCoPIMP: youre done.
Diesel Weasel 83: what's your name?
Diesel Weasel 83: you're a coward
SoCoPIMP: yea, you show so much courage in the gym with those lifts, lol
Diesel Weasel 83: an e-coward
SoCoPIMP: i feel sorry for your back
Diesel Weasel 83: i feel sorry for your parents
SoCoPIMP: yea, bet yours are real proud their 23 year old son is still working
on his aa
SoCoPIMP: good call moron
Diesel Weasel 83: with a 3.5 GPA
SoCoPIMP: bwahahaha
Diesel Weasel 83: after serving in the Army in Iraq
SoCoPIMP: at a community college in queens
SoCoPIMP: bwahaha
SoCoPIMP: what do they teach you there beside reading
Diesel Weasel 83: how to **** you in the ass
SoCoPIMP: owned.
Diesel Weasel 83: bend over
SoCoPIMP: you workin on become a fetish escort?
Diesel Weasel 83: i'll **** you until you love me
SoCoPIMP: learn that in the army?
SoCoPIMP: plowin' your buddies in the iraqi sun
Diesel Weasel 83: no, your mom taught me that
Diesel Weasel 83: last week
SoCoPIMP: so my mom slammed you?
Diesel Weasel 83: no, she took it in the ass
SoCoPIMP: cry?
Diesel Weasel 83: how gay is that?
SoCoPIMP: had enough
Diesel Weasel 83: "cry?"
SoCoPIMP: tacowned.
Diesel Weasel 83: you're a little ***got
Diesel Weasel 83: come to queens

Diesel Weasel 83: go much on a cock
Diesel Weasel 83: dicklicker
SoCoPIMP: man, youre 23?
SoCoPIMP: for crying out loud
SoCoPIMP: you have the wit of a highschool kid
Diesel Weasel 83: how old are you?
SoCoPIMP: cry?
Diesel Weasel 83: how old are you?
Diesel Weasel 83: "pimp"?

SoCoPIMP: youre done kid.
Diesel Weasel 83: go to my neighborhood
Diesel Weasel 83: tomorrow
SoCoPIMP: lol
SoCoPIMP: what, gonna try to clean press me?
SoCoPIMP: haha
Diesel Weasel 83: i want to ****in put you in the hospital
SoCoPIMP: well, youre on track to put yourself there
SoCoPIMP: keep up those deadlifts
Diesel Weasel 83 signed off at 4:09:45 PM.
Diesel Weasel 83 signed on at 4:09:57 PM.
Diesel Weasel 83: blocked
Diesel Weasel 83 signed off at 4:10:02 PM.

I'd say I came across as a lot more mature than your cock smokin' buddy. He stuck me with everything from mama jokes, to the e-coward gig, to even telling me to meet him in Queens so he could "put me in the hospital." Diesel really is sophomoric humor, at its worst.

You can't really say anything after this, Oldtime. You're done. Leave the thread with a little dignity.

[Newbtime]

Diesel Weasel 83: you're weak
SoCoPIMP: you need to do lighter weight
Diesel Weasel 83: 225 is my second warmup set
Diesel Weasel 83: 135, 225, 315, 405, 475
SoCoPIMP: neat man, bet the form is equally bad
SoCoPIMP: if you got bad form, fine thats your business
SoCoPIMP: but dont go around parading your ****

Diesel Weasel 83: ****in newbie
Diesel Weasel 83: 225 is what i deadlifted in high school
Diesel Weasel 83: at 125lbs
Diesel Weasel 83: for reps

Diesel Weasel 83: you're a ***got
SoCoPIMP: cry?
Diesel Weasel 83: eat my dick?
Diesel Weasel 83: PIMP
Diesel Weasel 83: ha
Diesel Weasel 83: bend over?
Diesel Weasel 83: i'll **** you until you love, bitch
SoCoPIMP: yea, ill keep my back good and rounded throughout
Diesel Weasel 83: love me
SoCoPIMP: i know how much you like that
Diesel Weasel 83: i would... i'd make you my bitch
SoCoPIMP: you need to drop your ego
SoCoPIMP: its whats gonna get you hurt
Diesel Weasel 83: come to queens
Diesel Weasel 83: tomorrow
SoCoPIMP: cry?
Diesel Weasel 83: no?
SoCoPIMP: youre done.
Diesel Weasel 83: what's your name?
Diesel Weasel 83: you're a coward
SoCoPIMP: yea, you show so much courage in the gym with those lifts, lol
Diesel Weasel 83: an e-coward
SoCoPIMP: i feel sorry for your back
Diesel Weasel 83: i feel sorry for your parents
SoCoPIMP: yea, bet yours are real proud their 23 year old son is still working
on his aa
SoCoPIMP: good call moron
Diesel Weasel 83: with a 3.5 GPA
SoCoPIMP: bwahahaha
Diesel Weasel 83: after serving in the Army in Iraq
SoCoPIMP: at a community college in queens
SoCoPIMP: bwahaha
SoCoPIMP: what do they teach you there beside reading
Diesel Weasel 83: how to **** you in the ass
SoCoPIMP: owned.
Diesel Weasel 83: bend over
SoCoPIMP: you workin on become a fetish escort?
Diesel Weasel 83: i'll **** you until you love me
SoCoPIMP: learn that in the army?
SoCoPIMP: plowin' your buddies in the iraqi sun
Diesel Weasel 83: no, your mom taught me that
Diesel Weasel 83: last week
SoCoPIMP: so my mom slammed you?
Diesel Weasel 83: no, she took it in the ass
SoCoPIMP: cry?
Diesel Weasel 83: how gay is that?
SoCoPIMP: had enough
Diesel Weasel 83: "cry?"
SoCoPIMP: tacowned.
Diesel Weasel 83: you're a little ***got
Diesel Weasel 83: come to queens

Diesel Weasel 83: go much on a cock
Diesel Weasel 83: dicklicker
SoCoPIMP: man, youre 23?
SoCoPIMP: for crying out loud
SoCoPIMP: you have the wit of a highschool kid
Diesel Weasel 83: how old are you?
SoCoPIMP: cry?
Diesel Weasel 83: how old are you?
Diesel Weasel 83: "pimp"?

SoCoPIMP: youre done kid.
Diesel Weasel 83: go to my neighborhood
Diesel Weasel 83: tomorrow
SoCoPIMP: lol
SoCoPIMP: what, gonna try to clean press me?
SoCoPIMP: haha
Diesel Weasel 83: i want to ****in put you in the hospital
SoCoPIMP: well, youre on track to put yourself there
SoCoPIMP: keep up those deadlifts
Diesel Weasel 83 signed off at 4:09:45 PM.
Diesel Weasel 83 signed on at 4:09:57 PM.
Diesel Weasel 83: blocked
Diesel Weasel 83 signed off at 4:10:02 PM.


I like how you cut out the first things said, To make it look like diesle started the bull****. Really funny.

The truth of the matter is, You im'ed him to start some ****, And you got it.

[envirocopy512]

I like how you cut out the first things said, To make it look like diesle started the bull****. Really funny.

The truth of the matter is, You im'ed him to start some ****, And you got it.
The reason my opening statement isn't in there is because I closed the window after weasel didn't respond. If you can find what I said, by all means, post it. And lets' not forget, I IM'd this guy to give him some advice. Honest to God, I assumed this guy simply did not know better. He got defensive and thats how this entire argument started.

I'm sure you'll just respond to that paragraph by "loling" because a guy who deads 225 with good form had the "audacity" to correct your butt pal here..

And where exactly did I "get it." Diesel basically stormed out of our conversation in a rage, having spat out jokes that would make a 16-year-old cringe and threatening to put me in the hospital. All the while, I had his 485x1 deadlifting video playing in the background, laughing myself into a coma.

[Newbtime]

And where exactly did I "get it."
When he started calling you ***got, Etc. Get ****= insulted.

To start **** is to start insulting/bitching/fighting.


All the while, I had his 485x1 deadlifting video playing in the background, laughing myself into a coma.Yes his form was very bad in that video. But what you are missing, Is that he does not deadlift like that anymore, I have said this probally about 20x now you fool.

Watch this video, And tell me if his form is "horrible". http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_405x5

Once again, His form is not perfect, But it can't be much worse then you'res, Considering you deadlift 225, And have no deadlift experience.

[DieselWeasel]

03/26/06 - Push

My spotter wasn't at the gym today, so I didn't bench press.

Clean and Press
95x8
135x3
155x1
170x1
185x1 (+10lb push press PR)


Dip
BWx5
BW+35x5
BW+35x5
BW+35x5

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_cleanpress_185x1
- The first exercise is in the video.

[AJ010]

The reason my opening statement isn't in there is because I closed the window after weasel didn't respond. If you can find what I said, by all means, post it. And lets' not forget, I IM'd this guy to give him some advice. Honest to God, I assumed this guy simply did not know better. He got defensive and thats how this entire argument started.

I'm sure you'll just respond to that paragraph by "loling" because a guy who deads 225 with good form had the "audacity" to correct your butt pal here..

And where exactly did I "get it." Diesel basically stormed out of our conversation in a rage, having spat out jokes that would make a 16-year-old cringe and threatening to put me in the hospital. All the while, I had his 485x1 deadlifting video playing in the background, laughing myself into a coma.

I can put your deadlift max over my head, faster than you can deadlift it.

ultimate owned

[Krollmonster]

03/26/06 - Push

My spotter wasn't at the gym today, so I didn't bench press.

Clean and Press
95x8
135x3
155x1
170x1
185x1 (+10lb push press PR)


Dip
BWx5
BW+35x5
BW+35x5
BW+35x5

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_cleanpress_185x1
- The first exercise is in the video.
Push Press wasn't bad, but the clean was horrible. Now that you got a 45 and 25 on each side, are you gonna actually learn the techniques that will lead to using much more weight? Or will you fall into the ego trap?

[envirocopy512]

Once again, His form is not perfect, But it can't be much worse then you'res, Considering you deadlift 225, And have no deadlift experience.
Once again, I explained this about 20x's dude. I even predicted that you would throw it out there again. And of course, you didn't surprise me....

[AJ010]

Yeah Dee Dubs, you gotta lower the weight, and squat down when you're gonna catch the weight. The reason you arch backwards is because you are trying to get lower to catch the weight...but rather you should be bending your knees

[DieselWeasel]

I can put your deadlift max over my head, faster than you can deadlift it.

ultimate owned

PWWWWWNED! :D

[envirocopy512]

I can put your deadlift max over my head, faster than you can deadlift it.

ultimate owned
So can 95% percent of the forum. You're completely missing the point of anything I said. I don't even know why you're still here....

[BPP]

03/26/06 - Push

My spotter wasn't at the gym today, so I didn't bench press.

.

weak excuse


03/26/06 - Push

Clean and Press

185x1 (+10lb push press PR)



more like cluster **** and press

seriously...why are you increasing weight? the cleans are attrocious, and the leg drive and "push press" are almost as bad

you need to work clean form, and leg drive on the press

once again, awful leg drive made you virtually strict press it

[AJ010]

So can 95% percent of the forum. You're completely missing the point of anything I said. I don't even know why you're still here....

I've been here for years, and im not going anywhere. Get used to it.

You started **** with Diesel, and you thought everyone would be on your side. Well **** that, I'm not.

I don't know why you're still posting in his journal. You know he's obviously not going to listen to you, so why don't you **** off.

[envirocopy512]

weak excuse



more like cluster **** and press

seriously...why are you increasing weight? the cleans are attrocious, and the leg drive and "push press" are almost as bad

you need to work clean form, and leg drive on the press

once again, awful leg drive made you virtually strict press it
Jesus Diesel, can't you listen to anyone.....the only people supporting your lifting are Oldtime and Unlimited--and they're mainly saying its "less bad" now.

[AJ010]

I don't support the **** form he's been using in his cleans and presses and deadlifts and squats, but I told him what he needs to fix, and how to do it. His form has improved in his deadlifts because he took the time to listen to our advice. It's just, with all the years of ****ty form, its hard to overcome his bad habits. It's not as easy as it looks to just have better form from reading it on line. If he had somebody instruct him in person, his form would improve rapidly.

[Newbtime]

Jesus Diesel, can't you listen to anyone.....the only people supporting your lifting are Oldtime and Unlimited--and they're mainly saying its "less bad" now.
I have never once, Ever, Commented on diesels clean/ overhead press form.

I don't know anything about those lifts...

[BPP]

I have never once, Ever, Commented on diesels clean/ overhead press form.

I don't know anything about those lifts...

do you have to to be able to see the clean isn't..well...good?

[envirocopy512]

You started **** with Diesel
Unbelievable. I'm at a complete loss of words here. I'm not even going to explain this **** again. Diesel has an attitude problem. Period. He has been completely rude and childish to people giving him advice that looks out for his best interest. This has been explained multiple times. Clearly I'm the only voice of reason in his "log."

When you hurt yourself Diesel, and believe me, you will hurt yourself--and probably badly--know that in the process of fueling your inflated ego you impressed absolutely no one and deserved what you got. And I really hope you don't hurt someone else with those out of control lifts, especially those clean presses...

And know this: the people you're wanting so badly to impress with your disgusting videos will not respect you or take you seriously until you can deflate that ego of yours enough to lower the weight and actually practice the sport as it was meant to be done.

Out.

[Squats]

Seriously envircopy, you need to shut the **** up. Let DW kill himself.

[DieselWeasel]

Unbelievable. I'm at a complete loss of words here. I'm not even going to explain this **** again. Diesel has an attitude problem. Period. He has been completely rude and childish to people giving him advice that looks out for his best interest. This has been explained multiple times. Clearly I'm the only voice of reason in his "log."

When you hurt yourself Diesel, and believe me, you will hurt yourself--and probably badly--know that in the process of fueling your inflated ego you impressed absolutely no one and deserved what you got. And I really hope you don't hurt someone else with those out of control lifts, especially those clean presses...

And know this: the people you're wanting so badly to impress with your disgusting videos will not respect you or take you seriously until you can deflate that ego of yours enough to lower the weight and actually practice the sport as it was meant to be done.

Out.

These were the first three lines that you sent me on AIM in the conversation that was previously posted:

SoCoPIMP: dude
SoCoPIMP: have you hurt your back yet?
SoCoPIMP: those deadlifts are just itchin for a disc slip

-

Go ahead and tell me that you weren't just trying to rile me up. :rolleyes:

[Newbtime]

With all do respect, You're advice isn't needed by diesel, Or you're insults. He has jesse marunde helping him with his form and lifting, Incase you didn't know.

Give him some time to improve, He has already started.

[nutbusterenato]

He has jesse marunde helping him with his form and lifting, Incase you didn't know.

no he doesnt, he got an offer thats all

[Squats]

With all do respect, You're advice isn't needed by diesel, Or you're insults. He has jesse marunde helping him with his form and lifting, Incase you didn't know.

Give him some time to improve, He has already started.
Damn, Jesse is a cool guy. He'll set him straight...hopefully

[envirocopy512]

With all do respect, You're advice isn't needed by diesel, Or you're insults. He has jesse marunde helping him with his form and lifting, Incase you didn't know.

Give him some time to improve, He has already started.
This is my last post.

That's fine if my advice isn't wanted. Or if anyone elses isn't. I won't lose any sleep over it. I won't even be offended.

What pissed me off beyond belief is the arrogance and childishness Diesel displayed in response to everyones advice. Calling my lifts "baby weight"......come on, show a little respect for your peers....

[Newbtime]

no he doesnt, he got an offer thats all
He accepted the offer.

[BPP]

He accepted the offer.

has jesse seen his cleans yet

[DieselWeasel]

no he doesnt, he got an offer thats all

This is my training journal on Jesse's message board:
http://www.marunde-muscle.com/forum/showthread.php?p=35206#post35206

[Newbtime]

has jesse seen his cleans yet
Possibly?

I'm not saying you're advice isn't usefull to diesel, You actualy know what you are talking about, You are/were a competetive strongman..

But this other guy is just giving diesel crap.. He can't even deadlift 3 plates..A weight i have benched..

[Heisman2]

has jesse seen his cleans yet

Highly doubtful.

Diesel, you started the powerclean with your back rounded. It must be straight. Your arms still bend WAY too early. Your first pull is also way too fast. You should pull your body under the bar so it will land on your shoulders; you shouldn't upright row it to "catch" it. Right when the bar leaves the ground, your legs are almost extended while your back is almost parallel to the ground. You want to keep the same angle between your back and the ground until you begin your second pull.

If you have learned anything from the past many, many months of being critiqued, you should know that you need to go light and learn the form. Most O-lifters spend weeks using just a broomstick or an empty bar to learn the correct form. I used bad form (still better than yours) and couldn't get anything more than 185 for a year. Than I fixed my form and a couple sessions later used 215. I made more improvements in two weeks than I had in a whole year. GET IT?

[DieselWeasel]

GET IT?

Yes, Heisy Weisy. ;)

[Heisman2]

Yes, Heisy Weisy. ;)

Then prove it. Take a vid of yourself doing powercleans with just the bar with good form. Then take a vid of yourself doing powercleans with 65 pounds with good form. Then 85 pounds with good form. Then 105 pounds with good form. Personally, I do technique work with 135 and can powerclean at least 215 (haven't attempted more weight), and I still have a ton of bad habits to try to unlearn.

Earlier today I put all of the ironmind vids up on youtube.com. They haven't been processed yet, but they'll probably be up there tomorrow. I HIGHLY suggest you watch all of them, multiple times.

And don't call me Heisy Weisy!

[DieselWeasel]

Then prove it. Take a vid of yourself doing powercleans with just the bar with good form. Then take a vid of yourself doing powercleans with 65 pounds with good form. Then 85 pounds with good form. Then 105 pounds with good form. Personally, I do technique work with 135 and can powerclean at least 215 (haven't attempted more weight), and I still have a ton of bad habits to try to unlearn.

Earlier today I put all of the ironmind vids up on youtube.com. They haven't been processed yet, but they'll probably be up there tomorrow. I HIGHLY suggest you watch all of them, multiple times.

And don't call me Heisy Weisy!

Link me to those videos when they're available, HW. :)

[GmoneyJakee]

haha this thread still cracks me up. i havnt heard much from DW latley but then i check back in and your form still hasnt improved much. i wanna know why though. if jesse doesnt help you then your basically hopefull. i dont know how anyone can be that closed minded to not listen to a word anyone has to say. and a question. you say you dont powerlift and that you train strongman am i correct. then how come in your max deadlift vids you are wearing a suit?

[DieselWeasel]

haha this thread still cracks me up. i havnt heard much from DW latley but then i check back in and your form still hasnt improved much. i wanna know why though. if jesse doesnt help you then your basically hopefull. i dont know how anyone can be that closed minded to not listen to a word anyone has to say. and a question. you say you dont powerlift and that you train strongman am i correct. then how come in your max deadlift vids you are wearing a suit?

Strongman competitors use suits. Jesse Marunde does that and I'm pretty sure many others do the same thing. Do you read MILO? The current issue has an article about him in which it states that he uses a squat suit in his training for his top set(s).

[Heisman2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcPpTNHSqfc tape 2 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0yrvG9t4iw tape 2 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0djv7sCdnjs Lara

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k1YzB-Si9g botev/vlad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUhDauOY-K8 kakiachvili

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH-IadDDsK4 295 kg squat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu4v-USn0DE botev

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JbtdGStAp0 chinese kids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neBeI0MOpZc lara/chinese

[DieselWeasel]

03/27/06 - Lower Body

Back Squat to Parallel
135x8
185x3
225x3
275x1
315x1
v straps up v
365x1 <= This was easy.
405x0 <= My feet weren't set properly and I got stapled.
385x1 (+10lb PR and lower depth than my 375x1, last year)

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_squat_385x1

[DieselWeasel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcPpTNHSqfc tape 2 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0yrvG9t4iw tape 2 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0djv7sCdnjs Lara

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k1YzB-Si9g botev/vlad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUhDauOY-K8 kakiachvili

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH-IadDDsK4 295 kg squat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu4v-USn0DE botev

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JbtdGStAp0 chinese kids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neBeI0MOpZc lara/chinese

Thanks, bro. You da man. :)

[maxiw]

Thanks, bro. You da man. :)
How many days a week/sessions per day do you workout?

[DieselWeasel]

How many days a week/sessions per day do you workout?

I workout once per day, three days (push, pull, legs) per week. When I start training grip again, it will be four days per week. It's probably going to be soon because I haven't had any pain in my right arm for a while, even during the last few push sessions.

[Mateo_66]

03/27/06 - Lower Body

Back Squat to Parallel
135x8
185x3
225x3
275x1
315x1
v straps up v
365x1 <= This was easy.
405x0 <= My feet weren't set properly and I got stapled.
385x1 (+10lb PR and lower depth than my 375x1, last year)

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_squat_385x1



The 385 it looked like your spotter helped you out of the hole. You got bent over too far. You should try widening your stance out a little bit to get more out of the suit. Also try putting the bar a little lower on your back this should help you not to lean over so bad. Other than that everything else looked pretty good. Depth was for sure low enough. Also I think I may be correct but not for sure I think Metal suits are better for medium to wide stance squatters. If you prefer a close stance you might try a TItan suit as I see most close stance squatters using them.

[DieselWeasel]

The 385 it looked like your spotter helped you out of the hole. You got bent over too far. You should try widening your stance out a little bit to get more out of the suit. Also try putting the bar a little lower on your back this should help you not to lean over so bad. Other than that everything else looked pretty good. Depth was for sure low enough. Also I think I may be correct but not for sure I think Metal suits are better for medium to wide stance squatters. If you prefer a close stance you might try a TItan suit as I see most close stance squatters using them.

My spotter actually just put his hands on my chest. He didn't assist in the lift.

The suit I'm wearing (Metal IPF Squatter) is designed for narrow stance squatters. The V-Type variant is the suit meant for wide stance squatters. Here is the direct link to the EliteFTS webpage where I bought the suit:
http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?m=PD&cid=203&pid=721

[BPP]

My spotter actually just put his hands on my chest. He didn't assist in the lift.


technically still a DQ in pl'ing ;)

[DieselWeasel]

technically still a DQ in pl'ing ;)

I saw a few pics where the spotters did that at meets. I guess they were disqualified.

I didn't know that. Now I know and knowing is half the battle. :D

[PitzaPapa]

how come u need dat der spotter up in the p rack knowmsayn?

[DieselWeasel]

how come u need dat der spotter up in the p rack knowmsayn?

The pins are a final safety measure, but the spotter comes first if anything goes wrong.

[Avatar of War]

Thing that strikes me about [all the vids of yours that I watched] was the last-second adjusting of headphones. I hate when they're in funny or fall out mid-set or something.

[DieselWeasel]

Thing that strikes me about [all the vids of yours that I watched] was the last-second adjusting of headphones. I hate when they're in funny or fall out mid-set or something.

Yeah, that's why I have a habit of adjusting it. ;)

[DieselWeasel]

EliteFTS has a winter clearance sale. If I only get one pair of bands for the reverse band deadlift, which should I buy? My current 1RM is 475 and I need to work the lockout.

[Krollmonster]

DW, set the rack pins higher man. As low as they are they won't help as much.

[DieselWeasel]

DW, set the rack pins higher man. As low as they are they won't help as much.

OK. That sounds like a good idea. I will probably do my rack pulls from the 3rd pin instead of the 2nd pin.

[Krollmonster]

OK. That sounds like a good idea. I will probably do my rack pulls from the 3rd pin instead of the 2nd pin.
Oh, I meant to say during squats. Start squatting with just the bar and see how long you will be going. Then set the pins a little below that to catch you if you get stuck in a squat.

[DieselWeasel]

Oh, I meant to say during squats. Start squatting with just the bar and see how long you will be going. Then set the pins a little below that to catch you if you get stuck in a squat.

Oh, I see. Yeah, that makes sense.

[artaxerxes]

03/22/06 - Pull

Rack Pull
135x8
225x3
315x3
405x1
V suit straps up V
500x1 (+5lb PR)

- 2nd Pin


T-Bar Row w/ Barbell (new)
90x8
135x5
180x5
225x5


Underhand Lat Pulldown
7th setting x 5
12th setting x 5
17th setting x 5 (+5lb PR)


Good Morning
95x5
155x5
210x5 (+5lb PR)

- It looks like I bent my knees less than last week which is good, but next time I will try to get it recorded from a side view to analyze it better.

video: http://media.putfile.com/max_rackpull_2ndpin_500x1
- The 500x1 rack pull, 225x5 t-bar row w/ barbell and 210x5 GM are in the video.

great improvement man, oh and whats the music in this video?

[DieselWeasel]

great improvement man, oh and whats the music in this video?

Ministry - Reload

[Squats]

That is some good advice some Mateo. Widen out your stance and build up your hips. Also, on the t-bar rows, use 35 and 25 to get a further rom. And GMs looked good.

[BPP]

DW has been banned per his request permanently and as such this is now closed.