DieselWeasel's Lifting Journal

[ashnut]

hey DW can you post a vid of your hammer curls?

you seem ridiculously strong in that exercise. hammer curl more than you incline db press?! maybe thats normal what do i know (except that my curls are nowhere near my db press).

[DieselWeasel]

hey DW can you post a vid of your hammer curls?

you seem ridiculously strong in that exercise. hammer curl more than you incline db press?! maybe thats normal what do i know (except that my curls are nowhere near my db press).

I did incline dumbbell press - 85s x 7, last time.

I might record video of hammer curls, next week.

EDIT: You're right. My best incline db press was 80s x 7, not 85s x 7.

[ashnut]

I did incline dumbbell press - 85s x 7, last time.

I might record video of hammer curls, next week.
your latest chest entry says you used the 80's for 7 there vs 85's for 10 on the curls.

not too much difference then if you indeed used the 85's, but your curl movement is stronger nonetheless. doesnt look like you focus much on chest so im guessing thats the culprit rather than not having the potential to do more. dont you need chest for strongman stuff?

[DieselWeasel]

your latest chest entry says you used the 80's for 7 there vs 85's for 10 on the curls.

not too much difference then if you indeed used the 85's, but your curl movement is stronger nonetheless. doesnt look like you focus much on chest so im guessing thats the culprit rather than not having the potential to do more. dont you need chest for strongman stuff?

No, you were right. My last best was 80s x 7, not 85s x 7 with the incline db press.

Chest strength isn't needed as much as other parts of the body in strongman competition. However, I still try to work my chest, like my other muscle groups.

I tried to help you with the rep problem, but I still can't give you positive rep points:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ashnut again.

[Gwailo168]

You should be cleaning like 275 on a log with that bicep power combined with your squat and deadlift strength.


I second that i'd like to see a video of the 85lbs dumbbell curls. That is crazy that you curl more than you incline.

Are people bitching about HITCHING? or are they bitching about something else? Many strongman hitch like crazy, even Savickas hitches and he was a top powerlifter in worlds (edit: obviously he doesnt hitch at a powerlifting meet)

[Addicted 2 Oats]

keep up the hard work bro! :D

[DieselWeasel]

Thanks, guys.


11/13/05 - Tearing

I tore a 1.75" Manhattan Yellow Pages (no pages torn out before the tear) which wasn't timed, but I'm pretty sure that it was done in under 60 seconds.


11/14/05 - Chest/Shoulders and Event Training

I can do a lot more reps with the 85s when doing the hammer curl compared to the incline dumbbell press. However, I do the hammer curl in an alternating fashion, not like the inclines which are pressed at the same time.

Incline Dumbbell Press
45s x 8
65s x 6
85s x 3 (+5lbs) <= This is the same weight as what was used for the hammer curls.


Crucifix Hold (new)
5s - untimed familiarization
10s - 55 seconds

- I will probably use the 15s, next time.

[DieselWeasel]

I did some card tearing, earlier this evening. I'm definitely much better with the phonebooks compared to cards.

[PitzaPapa]

nice tearing deezy, i havnt torn in forever. i may juss do some in 2 weeks or so.

i dunno how you and unlimted steel hammer curl so god damn much lol.

i couldnt budge an 80 lol.

i curl sooooper strict, but even if i cheated i couldnt budge it.

you guys must got some dem strong biceps from dat cell tech.

i remember back in the day doing crucifix hold competitions with my friend. 5lbers for a few minutes lol.

[DieselWeasel]

nice tearing deezy, i havnt torn in forever. i may juss do some in 2 weeks or so.

i dunno how you and unlimted steel hammer curl so god damn much lol.

i couldnt budge an 80 lol.

i curl sooooper strict, but even if i cheated i couldnt budge it.

you guys must got some dem strong biceps from dat cell tech.

i remember back in the day doing crucifix hold competitions with my friend. 5lbers for a few minutes lol.

Phonebook tearing is fun because I'm damn good at it. The card tearing isn't much fun because that **** is tough. :)

I use a controlled cheat when I hammer curl which is good training for the log clean and tire flip.

That Cell-Tech works wonders! It's better than steeeroids! ;) :D

The crucifix hold reminds me of **** we were forced to do in basic training (Army).

[Gwailo168]

Phonebook tearing is fun because I'm damn good at it. The card tearing isn't much fun because that **** is tough. :)

I use a controlled cheat when I hammer curl which is good training for the log clean and tire flip.

That Cell-Tech works wonders! It's better than steeeroids! ;) :D

The crucifix hold reminds me of **** we were forced to do in basic training (Army).

could you post a video of your controlled cheat??? Im just curious to see....

How is your log cleaning going??? Get up 200lbs yet?

[DieselWeasel]

11/16/05 - Lower Body

Barbell Squat
155x6
255x13 (+1 rep)


Zercher Deadlift (floor)
185x1
225x1
280x0
<removed elbow sleeves>
280x1 (+5lbs)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_zercher_floor_280


Seated Calf Raise
50x8
90x8
140x18 (+6 reps)


- I also did some hub/pinch work at the end of the workout.

[PitzaPapa]

deezy dubs, prs all around eh.

have you pinched 25's yet?

hows dat im hub doin?

[waitlifter82]

Looks like someone was deadlifting at least 625lbs on your left.

[BPP]

No, you were right. My last best was 80s x 7, not 85s x 7 with the incline db press.

Chest strength isn't needed as much as other parts of the body in strongman competition. However, I still try to work my chest, like my other muscle groups.

I tried to help you with the rep problem, but I still can't give you positive rep points:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ashnut again.


incline chest work is pretty important bro, its a helper/secondary pressing group, also works for tire flips, etc...but mostly on overhead pressing

what i like to do is incline presses at a very high angle, keeping my hands shoulder width and facing e/o, like the grip on a log

hits strongman press muscles nicely

[DieselWeasel]

incline chest work is pretty important bro, its a helper/secondary pressing group, also works for tire flips, etc...but mostly on overhead pressing

what i like to do is incline presses at a very high angle, keeping my hands shoulder width and facing e/o, like the grip on a log

hits strongman press muscles nicely

Yeah, I've been doing a bunch of incline dumbbell presses, lately. I was referring to flat barbell bench press, etc. in the post that you quoted.

waitlifter82: That was 401lbs (two 44lb bumpers and two 45lb reg. plates on each side), not 625. My friend Jose was doing a ton of volume, yesterday. That got me looking forward to Saturday when I do Coan/Phillipi Week 3. :)

PitzaPapa: I need to try the two 25s plate pinch again soon and PWN it.

[DieselWeasel]

11/19/05 - Coan/Phillipi (Week 3)

I did not have enough time to do SLDLs or GMs. I also forgot to bring my bag of chalk and consequently, the deadlifts and speed deads were more difficult than usual. The barbell was rolling out of my hands on a few of the speed dead sets on the last (third) rep after lockout and the second rep of the 420x2 set wasn't smooth too. I definitely need to bring chalk next week.

Deadlift
135x8
225x5
315x3
365x3
420x2


Speed Deadlift
345x3
345x3
345x3
345x3
345x3
345x3

- 120 seconds rest between sets


Bent-Over Barbell Row
195x8 <= easy and strict


Underhand Lat Pulldown
13th setting x 10 <= last few reps were tough

[PitzaPapa]

nice pulling deezy.

i cant wait till im on week 3. im tired of doing 8 sets :)

[AJ010]

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiceee **** man!

[DieselWeasel]

11/21/05 - Event Training

I don't know what happened with the 150 set, but after that, the first 160 attempt was damn close.

Log Press
90x6
120x4
135x3
150x1 (-2 reps) :mad:
160 x almost lockout <= video: http://media.putfile.com/max_logpress_160_almost
160x0
160x0

[PitzaPapa]

no pr?

whats wrong deezy are you dieing or something.

no pr that is just crazy? :)

good effort though digs

[DieselWeasel]

no pr?

whats wrong deezy are you dieing or something.

no pr that is just crazy? :)

good effort though digs

I'm not dying... I'm human. :)

[DieselWeasel]

11/23/05 - Lower Body

Barbell Squat
155x6
255x15 (+2 reps)


Zercher Deadlift (floor)
135x1
225x1
285x1 (+5lbs)
295x0

Seated Calf Raise
50x8
90x8
140x22 (+4 reps)

[PitzaPapa]

ahah theres the pr's deezy.

no vids?

awsomin z deads

[DieselWeasel]

ahah theres the pr's deezy.

no vids?

awsomin z deads

Thanks.

No, I didn't have my camera today. I'll record something one of these next few days.

[draco]

Diesel you are very strong for your size. Have you ever considered powerlifting? Most strongman competitors have built a great base powerlifting. Plus I believe you might be able to set or break records. That bench just needs to come up a bit but your lower body is very strong. I have some sites you might want to check out.

www.westside-barbell.com
www.elitefts.com
www.titansupport.com - Gear and a forum to read.
www.inzernet.com - Gear.
www.sorinex.com - They have some strongman equiptment you might be interested in.

All these sites have a lot of good information in them pretaining to both powerlifting and strongman. Also have you ever heard of Donnie Thompson he does some training with kettlebells he might have some insite for you.

On those log cleans have you ever considered doing some olympic lifting as well? I feel it would give you a great base on improving that as I feel that was your only weak point in that strongman video on putfile. Everything else looked pretty good. Work on those squats. Oh another place that has tons of powerlifting videos so you can critique the best in the world's form would be:

www.irongame.com - Tons of videos.

Well man I hope I have helped. Your grip is also amazing dude. Keep up the hard work.

[Mateo_66]

By the way draco was me I didnt log out after someone else was on the computer. Diesel have you ever considered box squats? Before you do them make sure you fully understand how to do them. Low box squats are great for your deadlift. Anyways man just read read read. POWERLIFTING USA is a great magazine for information and there is a magazine called MILO I believe that Ironmind has have you ever checked that out?

[PitzaPapa]

By the way draco was me I didnt log out after someone else was on the computer. Diesel have you ever considered box squats? Before you do them make sure you fully understand how to do them. Low box squats are great for your deadlift. Anyways man just read read read. POWERLIFTING USA is a great magazine for information and there is a magazine called MILO I believe that Ironmind has have you ever checked that out?
ye dat ***** diesel gots da milo

[Mateo_66]

I watched your 455 deadlift video Great Job! But I notice you dont push your hips through on the way up. You sort of leave them back. Then you are left bring the weight up your thighs. Kind of kicking it up inch by inch. Watch some videos on www.irongame.com Watch some video on great deadlifters such as:
1) Andy Bolton 900+ (Gave a go at 1008 but didnt get it)
2) Garry Frank 900+
3) Benedikt Magnussen (970 world record deadlift)
The list goes on and on just watch some of the videos and crituqe their form.

[DieselWeasel]

I did sandbag carries (bearhug, shoulder and zercher) yesterday with the 150lb sandbag.

[DieselWeasel]

11/28/05 - Coan/Phillipi (Week 4)

BRUTAL! :eek:

My lower back -and- hamstrings are sore today (the day after this workout). It's usually only my lower back that is sore the following 1-3 days after deads.

Deadlift
135x8
225x6
315x3
365x3
445x2 (+1 rep)


Speed Deadlift
370x3
370x3
370x3
370x3
370x3

- 120 seconds rest between sets


Bent-Over Barbell Row
200x8 <= easy and strict


Underhand Lat Pulldown
13th setting x 12 <= last few reps were tough


Good Morning
140x12 <= moderately difficult

[PitzaPapa]

i know what u sayin deezy.

im sore too from coan yesterday.

what target single did u use, i fergets?

keep on truckin

[DieselWeasel]

i know what u sayin deezy.

im sore too from coan yesterday.

what target single did u use, i fergets?

keep on truckin

I used 495 for my target single.

[PitzaPapa]

I used 495 for my target single.

*******. using 70lbs more den me fer target single :(

ye well i can deadlift more then u can bench

[DieselWeasel]

*******. using 70lbs more den me fer target single :(

ye well i can deadlift more then u can bench

My bench press sucks. :D

[DieselWeasel]

11/30/05 - Push

I think I finally realized what was wrong with my bench press setup/form. My hands were too far apart from each other. It looks like I need something between a close grip and regular grip instead of having my pinky finger on the ring markers which was too much of a wide grip for my body. I wasn't able to use my lats because of the hand spacing.

Flat Barbell Bench Press
95x8
115x6
135x3
160x3
185x4 (failed during the fifth rep which was a partial)
215x0


Close Grip Bench Press
135x10 (undetermined reps PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_bench_close_135x10

- It was after that close grip bench press set when I realized what I was doing wrong in terms of my grip spacing.


Dumbbell Crucifix Hold
10s - quick warmup
15s - 55 seconds (+5lbs and same amount of time as last crucifix PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_crucifix_15s_55

[PitzaPapa]

nice benchin deezy, adjust grip till wrists are over elbows when at bottom of bench.

bout to peep dem crucy hold vid

nice prs. and 185x4 isnt to bad since u have benched in forever

[DieselWeasel]

nice benchin deezy, adjust grip till wrists are over elbows when at bottom of bench.

bout to peep dem crucy hold vid

nice prs. and 185x4 isnt to bad since u have benched in forever

Thanks for the grip width tip. UnlimitedSteel gave me another good tip on AIM too. I'll probably try both advices (Pumping Iron joke :D), next bench day.

[AJ010]

Thanks for the grip width tip. UnlimitedSteel gave me another good tip on AIM too. I'll probably try both advices (Pumping Iron joke :D), next bench day.

Good luck with it man! :)

[ashnut]

max with regards to the crucifix vid it looked like you just got bored and decided "**** it im going home". looked easy dude keep it up

edit: oh and nice form on the close grip benches :) doing more than 3 reps for once hehehe

[DieselWeasel]

max with regards to the crucifix vid it looked like you just got bored and decided "**** it im going home". looked easy dude keep it up

edit: oh and nice form on the close grip benches :) doing more than 3 reps for once hehehe

Dude, that crucifix hold started to burn like a bitch at the end, shortly before I dropped them. I'll try 20s next time.

Yeah, the CG bench press felt great. :)

[DieselWeasel]

I did four pistols tonight. Here is a video of the two best reps:

http://media.putfile.com/max_pistol_bw

[AJ010]

I was expecting some half pistols :D

Nice job dude! That shows that you have very excellent leg strength esp. for your weight.

[waitlifter82]

I did a four pistols tonight. Here is a video of the two best reps:

http://media.putfile.com/max_pistol_bw

that looks pretty tough...

[DieselWeasel]

Yeah, those pistols are not easy.

12/02/05 - Event Training

Holy crap. It was COLD today. My hands were on fire after walking with the 180s.

Farmer's Walk
105s - 100 feet (turn at 50 feet)
180s - 100 feet (turn at 50 feet) - 31 seconds (~1 second PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_farmer_180_100_31

[Radok]

I have a pistol workout that I started to do, because I wanted to build the ability to do 50 in a row. I would just do a reverse ladder, doing 15, 14, 13, ext. down to one, then switch legs. That will turn them to jelly, give it a whirl. Do you do them ATG, I couldn't tell from the video. An excellent exercise.

[AJ010]

Do them weighted like me :D

[Radok]

I was planning on doing that after I worked up to 50, but then I got into doing heavy back squats and deadlifts, after I found powerlifting. BTW, back when I did a lot of pistols, I could only ATG squat about 220.

[DieselWeasel]

12/03/05 - Lower Body

I started late today and didn't have enough time to do the zercher deadlift or seated calf raise. Plus, I felt like I needed to poop anyway. BTW, in case anyone was wondering, I was wearing a wrestling singlet, not a squat suit, in the squat video.

Barbell Squat
155x8
205x3
245x2
275x1
315x1
375x1 (+5lbs)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_squat_375x1

This is a screenshot showing the lowest position in the 375x1 set:

[Tank87]

nice stuff man

[DieselWeasel]

nice stuff man

Thanks.

[DennyB]

Diesel,

Have you ever attempted either the captains of crush or beef builders grippers? All the #3 closers or mash monsters look to be over 200lbs, might be nice to be included in that list as the lightest man to do so. With your grip strength I would guess you would have a pretty good shot. Do you do any thick bar work?

[DieselWeasel]

Diesel,

Have you ever attempted either the captains of crush or beef builders grippers? All the #3 closers or mash monsters look to be over 200lbs, might be nice to be included in that list as the lightest man to do so. With your grip strength I would guess you would have a pretty good shot. Do you do any thick bar work?

I have all of the CoC grippers except for the #4. I also have two HG grippers. I don't use my grippers as often as I did in the past though.

I'm still waiting to receive the 2" thickbar that I ordered from BruteStrength.com

[DieselWeasel]

12/05/05 - Coan/Phillipi (Week 5)

Deadlift
135x8
225x6
315x3
395x3
395x3
395x3


Speed Deadlift
320x3
320x3
320x3


Power Shrug
275x5
275x5
275x5


Bent-Over Barbell Row
200x5
200x5
200x5


Underhand Lat Pulldown
13th setting x 5
13th x 5
13th x 5


Good Morning
140x5
140x5
140x5

- no more than 120 seconds rest for everything except for the 3x3 @ 395 deadlifts.

[mike_d]

nice workout man

[DieselWeasel]

nice workout man

Thanks. Last week was more difficult, but today wasn't easy.

[PitzaPapa]

good workout man. ye week 4 is a pretty tuff week.

i cant wait for week 5, looks nice and easy :) and i wanna start them shrugs. and bump up my row and chin weights. im sick of 8 reps :). im probably just gonna do regular shrugs and not power shrugs i dunno.

keep up the good stuff deezer

[DieselWeasel]

good workout man. ye week 4 is a pretty tuff week.

i cant wait for week 5, looks nice and easy :) and i wanna start them shrugs. and bump up my row and chin weights. im sick of 8 reps :). im probably just gonna do regular shrugs and not power shrugs i dunno.

keep up the good stuff deezer

Yeah, I know that I can definitely handle the weight/reps/sets for the next two weeks (6-7), but 8-10 are going to be tough as hell.

I will post video after I do weeks 8-10 (470x2, 485x1 and 495x1, respectively).

[mike_d]

470x2, 485x1 and 495x1, respectively

steppin into the big leagues now bud :D

you remind me of my gym buddy in terms of frame size, i'm 6'3, 225 and he completely owns me in squats + deads, lol. my last workout i pulled a single at 295, he struts in the gym, says whatsup to me, then with a grin on his face asks if he can warmup with my bar....and he did :mad:

:D

he's like 5'9, 175 tops

[DieselWeasel]

steppin into the big leagues now bud :D

you remind me of my gym buddy in terms of frame size, i'm 6'3, 225 and he completely owns me in squats + deads, lol. my last workout i pulled a single at 295, he struts in the gym, says whatsup to me, then with a grin on his face asks if he can warmup with my bar....and he did :mad:

:D

he's like 5'9, 175 tops

I'm 5'5" ~155lbs.

[mike_d]

I'm 5'5" ~155lbs.

:eek:

wow, crazy sh!t

[DieselWeasel]

:eek:

wow, crazy sh!t

I'm a short sumbitch! :D

[AJ010]

heh yooo Mike I thought your clean was 310 @185 or something?

[corey_hayes]

How much above my max should i use as my projected max for the deadlift routine?

My deadlift is 405 right now...think i could use 450?

[DieselWeasel]

How much above my max should i use as my projected max for the deadlift routine?

My deadlift is 405 right now...think i could use 450?

My current 1RM was 455 and I used 495 for my projected 1RM.

I think 450 or 455 is a good projected 1RM with your current 1RM.

[PitzaPapa]

How much above my max should i use as my projected max for the deadlift routine?

My deadlift is 405 right now...think i could use 450?

what i does is
type in a number over ur max and look at the weights it gives you each week for ur deadlift sets. keep doing this until you think its good nuff to where u can just handle the sets.

[corey_hayes]

im gonna use 450
i just dread 4th week....405x2
:D

[mike_d]

heh yooo Mike I thought your clean was 310 @185 or something?

me? :confused:

nope, i havent weighed 185 since high school :D

and my clean sucks, its around 115lbs for 3 reps. _maybe_ you read about it in my 'high pull' thread, my _push press_ is pretty high (last time i tested @ 205), but you're probably thinking of someone else :)

[AJ010]

Damn wtf!?

Haha, check this post you made:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=7794062&postcount=14

[PYF]

Yeah, I know that I can definitely handle the weight/reps/sets for the next two weeks (6-7), but 8-10 are going to be tough as hell.

I will post video after I do weeks 8-10 (470x2, 485x1 and 495x1, respectively).


Hope the 495 one is gonna be as awesome as your 455 deadlift/hitch :rolleyes:x1000

[DieselWeasel]

Hope the 495 one is gonna be as awesome as your 455 deadlift/hitch :rolleyes:x1000

Whatever you want to call it, it will still be 90lbs more than your best deadlift 1RM of 405lbs @ ~45lbs more bodyweight, kid.

YOU: 405 @ 200
ME: 495 @ 155

'Nuff said.

[Sleepless]

Well, if you take in consideration that hitch = non-valid lift and you've never completed a weight over 405 pounds without hitching and your filming every of your PR.

So

Him: 405@200
You: Less than 405 @155


*Wont argue but dont brag about crappy lift if you dont want criticism*

[DieselWeasel]

Well, if you take in consideration that hitch = non-valid lift and you've never completed a weight over 405 pounds without hitching and your filming every of your PR.

So

Him: 405@200
You: Less than 405 @155


*Wont argue but dont brag about crappy lift if you dont want criticism*

1) I don't film every single deadlift that I do.
2) Even if I do hitch, it -is- valid in strongman competition.

[mike_d]

Damn wtf!?

Haha, check this post you made:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=7794062&postcount=14

Oh lol, I remember that thread.

That pic isnt me, and i didnt claim it to be. Before I realized the guy being worshipped in that thread was indeed the threadstarter, I was hunting the internet for proof that the guy wasnt so super strong. Read the beginning of the thread, the threadstarter acts like its some friggin high school god. I admit the guys tough, but he was nuthugging him. I think he mentioned something like "no teen can powerclean 315" so I found that pic of a random guy cleaning 315 @ 185lbs (with bad form I admit). But no, thats not me.

[PYF]

Whatever you want to call it, it will still be 90lbs more than your best deadlift 1RM of 405lbs @ ~45lbs more bodyweight, kid.

YOU: 405 @ 200
ME: 495 @ 155

'Nuff said.

I'm gonna do 455 (non-hitched;)) tonight. don't forget I'm only 17 though, not 22 ;)

Anyways, I must admit that I worship your dedication,persistance and will to achieve. You just have some work to do on some of your forms ;)

[DieselWeasel]

I'm gonna do 455 (non-hitched;)) tonight. don't forget I'm only 17 though, not 22 ;)

Anyways, I must admit that I worship your dedication,persistance and will to achieve. You just have some work to do on some of your forms ;)

Are you going to record video of your 455 attempt?

[mike_d]

Are you going to record video of your 455 attempt?

I live pretty close to Quebec, maybe he'd like to come to Ottawa to have a few witnesses? ;)

Hell I wouldnt mind a new training partner that can pull over 400, you live near the Hull region man?

[PYF]

Are you going to record video of your 455 attempt?

Sorry I don't have a camera here in college dorm :(. I could record something like let's say, 465-475 for mid-jan at my parent's home while on college break though where I have a camera

[PYF]

I live pretty close to Quebec, maybe he'd like to come to Ottawa to have a few witnesses? ;)

Hell I wouldnt mind a new training partner that can pull over 400, you live near the Hull region man?

No lol, about 8 hours from it...I'm 5 hours from montreal and 2-2.5 hours from quebec so I'm really far from you. I wouldn't mind having a partner pulling 400+ either :D

Technically, I only saw 2 others persons in 2 years of training beside me who was pulling 400+ raw :(... Deadlift and squat is a routine is pretty rare up here...People always give me strange look when I deadlift :rolleyes:

I've been training in my current gym for about 3 months (since college started) and I'm the only person I ever saw deadlifting raw. I saw a guy starting his deadlift from the rack with straps and bouncing it on the floor and that's all :rolleyes:




EDIT: And by the way DieselWeasel, even If I looked like an ass in first place, good luck on the 495 deadlift :)

[DieselWeasel]

No lol, about 8 hours from it...I'm 5 hours from montreal and 2-2.5 hours from quebec so I'm really far from you. I wouldn't mind having a partner pulling 400+ either :D

Technically, I only saw 2 others persons in 2 years of training beside me who was pulling 400+ raw :(... Deadlift and squat is a routine is pretty rare up here...People always give me strange look when I deadlift :rolleyes:

I've been training in my current gym for about 3 months (since college started) and I'm the only person I ever saw deadlifting raw. I saw a guy starting his deadlift from the rack with straps and bouncing it on the floor and that's all :rolleyes:




EDIT: And by the way DieselWeasel, even If I looked like an ass in first place, good luck on the 495 deadlift :)

No worries. :)

Yeah, nobody here does deadlifts and people -rarely- do squats here.

[PYF]

No worries. :)

Yeah, nobody here does deadlifts and people -rarely- do squats here.

Looks like it's the same thing everywhere ;)

[DieselWeasel]

Looks like it's the same thing everywhere ;)

Ignorance is universal.

[PYF]

Ignorance is universal.

I agree to that too :p

Looks like you're not a bad guy at all finally :p

[mike_d]

haha, nevermind then eh PYF :D

Good job for taking deads so seriously guys, its a rare sight in most gyms. I'm on my own little road to 400, not much by bb.com standards, especially at my weight/size, but half the gym will think I'm a freak for doing it :cool:


:D

[PYF]

haha, nevermind then eh PYF :D

Good job for taking deads so seriously guys, its a rare sight in most gyms. I'm on my own little road to 400, not much by bb.com standards, especially at my weight/size, but half the gym will think I'm a freak for doing it :cool:


:D

Thanks Mike, I take it really seriously, it's my favorite exercice. As opposed to a lot of exercices, it has a lot of use in everyday's life.

Way to go big Mike, you can get that 400 :cool:

What are your height/weight/age by the way :confused:

[Radok]

It's pretty sad what a big deal it is when someone deadlifts 400 in a gym. I'm getting close to it myself. I bet DW will have people flip their lids when he get 500.

[DieselWeasel]

It's pretty sad what a big deal it is when someone deadlifts 400 in a gym. I'm getting close to it myself. I bet DW will have people flip their lids when he get 500.

495, not 500! :D

I couldn't care less if they're amazed by a 495 deadlift. I'm only concerned that they might tell me that deadlifts are not allowed or some BS like that at the commercial gym that I'm using to finish the Coan/Phillipi deadlift routine while the campus weight room is closed for the winter.

[PYF]

Hey DW, since I'm in your thread, mind if I ask you a question? (Even if I'm the one and came in here insulting you :o...)

What do you do to work your grip to handle weight of 400+.

My back could lift a lot more, but my hands aren't following :(

Thanks,
Pierre-Yves

[DieselWeasel]

Hey DW, since I'm in your thread, mind if I ask you a question? (Even if I'm the one and came in here insulting you :o...)

What do you do to work your grip to handle weight of 400+.

My back could lift a lot more, but my hands aren't following :(

Thanks,
Pierre-Yves

In descending order of importance:

a) deadlift
b) farmer's walk
c) static hold

Also, be sure to lose the straps except for maybe shrugs.

[PYF]

In descending order of importance:

a) deadlift
b) farmer's walk
c) static hold

Also, be sure to lose the straps except for maybe shrugs.

Thanks a lot, I was already using static hold. And by the way, straps aren't in my vocabulary anymore :D

[mike_d]

Thanks Mike, I take it really seriously, it's my favorite exercice. As opposed to a lot of exercices, it has a lot of use in everyday's life.

Way to go big Mike, you can get that 400 :cool:

What are your height/weight/age by the way :confused:

6'2-6'3, just added 5lbs up to 225lbs now. I'm still rocketting through my newbie gains though, I smell 405x1 by feb. 1 and maybe 495 by september or so, i'll figure that part out when I pass 405. I think i'm gonna cut though once I reach 405 for reps though, so come to think of it, its gonna take a while for me to hit 495 (wont make any real strength gains while i'm cutting).

[PYF]

6'2-6'3, just added 5lbs up to 225lbs now. I'm still rocketting through my newbie gains though, I smell 405x1 by feb. 1 and maybe 495 by september or so, i'll figure that part out when I pass 405. I think i'm gonna cut though once I reach 405 for reps though, so come to think of it, its gonna take a while for me to hit 495 (wont make any real strength gains while i'm cutting).

Awesome, I hope you achieve your goal :)

[DieselWeasel]

12/07/05 - Push

I tried a bench press grip that was a little wider than my regular close grip.

Semi-CG Bench Press
95x8
115x3
135x3
155x10 (unknown reps PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_bench_semi-CG_155x10


Dumbbell Crucifix Hold
10s - quick warmup
15s - short warmup
20s - 57 seconds (+5lbs and +2 seconds)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_crucifix_20s_57


Two-Hands Standing Dumbbell Extension
50 x 8
75 x 14 (unknown reps PR)


Sotts Press (new)
45 x 6
65 x 3
95 x 0
95 x 2 (failed on the third rep)

- VERY difficult exercise

[moomoomonkeys]

12/07/05 - Push

I tried a bench press grip that was a little wider than my regular close grip.

Semi-CG Bench Press
95x8
115x3
135x3
155x10 (unknown reps PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_bench_semi-CG_155x10


Dumbbell Crucifix Hold
10s - quick warmup
15s - short warmup
20s - 57 seconds (+5lbs and +2 seconds)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_crucifix_20s_57


Two-Hands Standing Dumbbell Extension
50 x 8
75 x 14 (unknown reps PR)


Sotts Press (new)
45 x 6
65 x 3
95 x 0
95 x 2 (failed on the third rep)

- VERY difficult exercise
nice workout
is the sotts press where you sit in the bottom of a snatch and press it

[DieselWeasel]

nice workout
is the sotts press where you sit in the bottom of a snatch and press it

That's basically what you do, except it's in the bottom of an ATG front squat instead of a snatch.

[HEADSH0T]

12/07/05 - Push

I tried a bench press grip that was a little wider than my regular close grip.

Semi-CG Bench Press
95x8
115x3
135x3
155x10 (unknown reps PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_bench_semi-CG_155x10


Dumbbell Crucifix Hold
10s - quick warmup
15s - short warmup
20s - 57 seconds (+5lbs and +2 seconds)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_crucifix_20s_57


Two-Hands Standing Dumbbell Extension
50 x 8
75 x 14 (unknown reps PR)


Sotts Press (new)
45 x 6
65 x 3
95 x 0
95 x 2 (failed on the third rep)

- VERY difficult exercise
Please dont get offended by this.
I laughed my ass off when you yelled at your last rep on the CGBP. The way you started shaking and grunting was like if your left nut got chopped off by a butcher "one more rep weasel, else you lose the right one too".
I admire your hard work, I rarely see people go so intense. There are very few people who work so hard in the gym.

[DieselWeasel]

Please dont get offended by this.
I laughed my ass off when you yelled at your last rep on the CGBP. The way you started shaking and grunting was like if your left nut got chopped off by a butcher "one more rep weasel, else you lose the right one too".
I admire your hard work, I rarely see people go so intense. There are very few people who work so hard in the gym.

No offense was taken. I actually laughed when reading that. :D

[waitlifter82]

Please dont get offended by this.
I laughed my ass off when you yelled at your last rep on the CGBP. The way you started shaking and grunting was like if your left nut got chopped off by a butcher "one more rep weasel, else you lose the right one too".
I admire your hard work, I rarely see people go so intense. There are very few people who work so hard in the gym.

LOL, no doubt.... that was the best grunt from you I've heard....

[DieselWeasel]

LOL, no doubt.... that was the best grunt from you I've heard....

My spotter/friend Jose said that I sounded like Arnold in Pumping Iron. :o

[moomoomonkeys]

That's basically what you do, except it's in the bottom of an ATG front squat instead of a snatch.
ive done them in the snatch position and couldnt do the bar lol
ill try them this way in tonighs workout and see how it goes

[DieselWeasel]

ive done them in the snatch position and couldnt do the bar lol
ill try them this way in tonighs workout and see how it goes

YOU CAN DO IT! :D

[AJ010]

Those sotts presses are really tough dude! I tried them yesterday cuz you told me about em and wow

The higher you press the bar the harder and harder it gets.

[DieselWeasel]

Those sotts presses are really tough dude! I tried them yesterday cuz you told me about em and wow

The higher you press the bar the harder and harder it gets.

I told you it was no joke, you sumbitch! :cool:

[AJ010]

I told you it was no joke, you sumbitch! :cool:

We're pretty close to getting our bodyweight :D

[DieselWeasel]

We're pretty close to getting our bodyweight :D

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

I couldn't even do 3 reps with 95lbs! :eek:

[GoB]

On your crucifix holds you are holding the dumbells far too high. You are not allowed to hold them higher than your ears, so extend those arms. I went to one of Hugo Girard's strength demonstrations and there was a small contest to do it infront of him and that's how he said to do it. It was pretty amazing seeing him hold 60lbs in each hand for more than a minute though! :o

[AJ010]

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

I couldn't even do 3 reps with 95lbs! :eek:

Pfft i bet you max like 115 or somethin.

[DieselWeasel]

On your crucifix holds you are holding the dumbells far too high. You are not allowed to hold them higher than your ears, so extend those arms. I went to one of Hugo Girard's strength demonstrations and there was a small contest to do it infront of him and that's how he said to do it. It was pretty amazing seeing him hold 60lbs in each hand for more than a minute though! :o

Yeah, I'm reading more about the crucifix hold event in my strongman book, 'Personal Best' and it looks like you're right. Thanks for the clarification.

Steel: Maybe. :)

[Gwailo168]

looking good weasel! I like how you're incorporating a lot of different strength exercises into your routines. When i have access to a faster connection ill get to watch the videos!

Take some videos of the lesser known exercises you do, i always like watching new stuff.

cant wait to see the 495 pull. 5 plates from the floor is always fun

[DieselWeasel]

looking good weasel! I like how you're incorporating a lot of different strength exercises into your routines. When i have access to a faster connection ill get to watch the videos!

Take some videos of the lesser known exercises you do, i always like watching new stuff.

cant wait to see the 495 pull. 5 plates from the floor is always fun

Yeah, I want to get video of me doing the sotts press which is a tough sonofabitch.

[DieselWeasel]

12/10/05 - Coan/Phillipi (Week 6)

There was no more than 120 seconds rest between sets of every exercise except for the first group of deadlifts.

Deadlift
135x8
225x3
315x3
365x3
420x2


Speed Deadlift
345x3
345x3
345x3


Power Shrug
295x5
295x5
295x5


Bent-Over Barbell Row
205x5
205x5
205x5


Underhand Lat Pulldown
14th setting x 5
14th x 5
14th x 5 <= tough


Good Morning
145x5
145x5
145x5

[PitzaPapa]

nice week 6 deezy.

man its a hit to the ego seeing you and bender rep my target single and above half way through the program.

do you do powershrugs or just regular shrugs? im probly just gonna do regular shrugs until the weight gets heavier and i have to power it a bit.

[moomoomonkeys]

12/10/05 - Coan/Phillipi (Week 6)

There was no more than 120 seconds rest between sets of every exercise except for the first group of deadlifts.

Deadlift
135x8
225x3
315x3
365x3
420x2


Speed Deadlift
345x3
345x3
345x3


Power Shrug
295x5
295x5
295x5


Bent-Over Barbell Row
205x5
205x5
205x5


Underhand Lat Pulldown
14th setting x 5
14th x 5
14th x 5 <= tough


Good Morning
145x5
145x5
145x5
looking good
i did those sotts press but i dont have enough flexibility in my shoulders so i couldnt lift it all the way up

[DieselWeasel]

nice week 6 deezy.

man its a hit to the ego seeing you and bender rep my target single and above half way through the program.

do you do powershrugs or just regular shrugs? im probly just gonna do regular shrugs until the weight gets heavier and i have to power it a bit.

The 420x2 set was easy too. I'm doing 445x2 again, next week, same as Week 4. Then it's 470x2 after that. :eek:

I've been doing a semi power shrug, these last two Coan/Phillipi days. The only time that I remember doing a true power shrug was when I used 405lbs not too long ago.

moomoomonkeys: Work on that flexibility! :mad: :)

[BPP]

On your crucifix holds you are holding the dumbells far too high. You are not allowed to hold them higher than your ears, so extend those arms. I went to one of Hugo Girard's strength demonstrations and there was a small contest to do it infront of him and that's how he said to do it. It was pretty amazing seeing him hold 60lbs in each hand for more than a minute though! :o

not to mention you wont be curling them 90 degrees in contest

straight out to sides, below the ears but above the shoulders i believe..most apparatus are made to force you palms-down during this as well, so start practicing with arm fully extended, palms down DB grip for correct form/correct difficulty

[DieselWeasel]

not to mention you wont be curling them 90 degrees in contest

straight out to sides, below the ears but above the shoulders i believe..most apparatus are made to force you palms-down during this as well, so start practicing with arm fully extended, palms down DB grip for correct form/correct difficulty

I've always seen it done palms up, not palms down.

[AJ010]

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%22crucifix%20hold%22&btnG=Google+Search&sa=N&tab=wi

Seems like its done palms up, palms forward, and palms down.

[moomoomonkeys]

The 420x2 set was easy too. I'm doing 445x2 again, next week, same as Week 4. Then it's 470x2 after that. :eek:

I've been doing a semi power shrug, these last two Coan/Phillipi days. The only time that I remember doing a true power shrug was when I used 405lbs not too long ago.

moomoomonkeys: Work on that flexibility! :mad: :)
lol ill work on it
and also ifinally got me a squat rack i was supposed to get a month ago i am so happy even though i barely squat 200 which is no where near my old max

[DieselWeasel]

12/11/05 - Event Training

Log Press
60x8
90x3
110x3
130x8 (+6 reps)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_logpress_130x8

- This was a big PR. However, the last time I used 130 for reps was my first training session with the log.

[moomoomonkeys]

is the log press just a push press with that log thing

[DieselWeasel]

moomoomonkeys: Yeah, you got it. :)


12/12/05 - Lower Body

I only did the log front squat once before and it was with the empty log (60lbs).

Log Front Squat (new)
60x8
90x3
120x3
150x1*
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_logfrontsquat_150x1

* As you can see in the video, I failed trying to do a second rep.

[waitlifter82]

* As you can see in the video, I failed trying to do a second rep.

actually, all I can see is black:confused:

[DieselWeasel]

actually, all I can see is black:confused:

Yeah, the video is very dark. I can see it better on certain computers, depending on the contrast levels of the monitor. But it's still dark regardless.

[moomoomonkeys]

nice lift diesel

[DieselWeasel]

nice lift diesel

Thanks.

[ashnut]

how much can you frontsquat with a regular barbell?

[DieselWeasel]

how much can you frontsquat with a regular barbell?

I have no idea. I only did light weight with the barbell front squat in the past. I'm going to see what I'm capable of front squatting with a thickbar after I receive my 2" thickbar in the mail.

[DieselWeasel]

12/16/05 - Coan/Phillipi (Week 7)

There was no more than 120 seconds rest between sets of every exercise except for the first group of deadlifts.

Deadlift
135x8
225x3
315x3
365x2
445x2 <= tied reps PR
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_445x2


Speed Deadlift
370x3
370x3
370x3


Power Shrug
320x5
320x5

Bent-Over Barbell Row
210x5
210x5


Underhand Lat Pulldown
200 x 5
200 x 5

- This pulldown machine at the commercial gym uses a different poundage scheme.


Good Morning
150x5
150x5

[Tormented]

Went up like nothing, I'm sure you'll hit 470x2 easy.

[bodybuilda]

hey DW your deadlift on the 445 x2, i think the first rep was really clean but the second one i think u should of rested before attempting the second rep like only max 10 seconds, i think if u did that it would of gone up more cleaner like the first one and it would of still counted as 2 reps, 10 second rest really doesnt count as a rest.

[waitlifter82]

Guy in the back made me laugh:)

That a deadlift shirt you're wearing?

[BPP]

get a vid of the speed deads

[sword chucks]

:s

[DieselWeasel]

Guy in the back made me laugh:)

That a deadlift shirt you're wearing?

Yeah, hardcore stretching, baby! :D

No, I was wearing a Hatebreed t-shirt underneath my Brute wrestling singlet.

bpp: I don't have a camcorder, so I can only make short videos. That means that I would need to record the speed sets separately instead of together which leaves out the 120 seconds rest between sets.

Tormented: Thanks. We'll see, next week. :)

bodybuilda: Thanks for the tip. Maybe I will take a few more seconds with the second rep of the 470 double, next week.

sword chucks: What was that? :confused:

[AJ010]

Nice **** dude. 470x2 next week !

P.S: Nobody gives a **** about watching you **** around for 120 seconds dude! We just wanna see the speed deadlifts :D

[DieselWeasel]

Nice **** dude. 470x2 next week !

P.S: Nobody gives a **** about watching you **** around for 120 seconds dude! We just wanna see the speed deadlifts :D

OK. If my battery holds up, I will probably record the speed sets after the 470x2 set, next week.

[AJ010]

OK. If my battery holds up, I will probably record the speed sets after the 470x2 set, next week.


"You can do it!"

[Darracq]

How are you liking the coan program. What is your pr on deads?
Looking strong

[Squats]

Keep your damn back straight, I'll get you a brace those sclerosis kids wear.

[BPP]

P.S: Nobody gives a **** about watching you **** around for 120 seconds dude! We just wanna see the speed deadlifts :D

lmfao exactly...if theyre speed deadlifts, you should have more than enough for 3 reps

if you can record some of the stuff you have, but cant get 3 reps from speed deads, then theyre not really speed deads...

[DieselWeasel]

Keep your damn back straight, I'll get you a brace those sclerosis kids wear.

But I don't want to wear a brace! :mad: :( ;)

Darracq: My last deadlift 1RM PR was 455lbs, during the summer.

[Radok]

^You mean scoliosis. The word sclerosis would be from multiple sclerosis, which has nothing to do with the spine.

[DieselWeasel]

lmfao exactly...if theyre speed deadlifts, you should have more than enough for 3 reps

if you can record some of the stuff you have, but cant get 3 reps from speed deads, then theyre not really speed deads...

They don't count as speed deads simply because I haven't been recording them? You lost me back there, bpp. :confused:

But anyway, I will try to record the speed sets, next week after the 470x2 set.

[BPP]

They don't count as speed deads simply because I haven't been recording them? You lost me back there, bpp. :confused:

But anyway, I will try to record the speed sets, next week after the 470x2 set.

*slams head*

i dont want all 3 speed sets...im saying pick one, and record it...its a 3 rep set of SPEED deadlifts...you should be able to fit 3 speed reps into the time it lets you record

[Squats]

^You mean scoliosis. The word sclerosis would be from multiple sclerosis, which has nothing to do with the spine.

Not what Wikipedia said. :D

[DieselWeasel]

*slams head*

i dont want all 3 speed sets...im saying pick one, and record it...its a 3 rep set of SPEED deadlifts...you should be able to fit 3 speed reps into the time it lets you record

Yeah, but if I can record all three sets separately and put them together using software at home, why not?

[Radok]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sclerosis
As you can see, MS is the first thing up, like I said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoliosis
scoliosis, like I said, is what makes you were a brace.

[Radok]

DW, if you get 495 after this Coan routine, are you going to try for 500?

[DieselWeasel]

DW, if you get 495 after this Coan routine, are you going to try for 500?

I might attempt 500 or 505 a few weeks or months after doing some event training (325 for max reps in 60 seconds) and/or rack work (500+ from the knees).

[DieselWeasel]

12/18/05 - Grip

WOO! I finally did a one-hand full pinch lift with two 25lb plates. :)

Pinch Lift
two 10s x 6
three 10s x 3
two 25s x 0
two 25s x 1 (right) and 0 (left)* <= video: http://media.putfile.com/max_pinch_25s
two 25s x 0 (left)*

* I got at least a few inches of air on those two attempts with the left hand.

- After the pinch work, I did levering with my 10lb sledgehammer and training with my new IMTUG6 gripper along with partials with my CoC #3 too. I forgot to do plate curls, but I will remember to do them next time I do wrist training.

[bodybuilda]

hey nice pinch lift i really dont know if its hard or not i never tried it, but does this help your grip on the deadlift? or any other exercises for that matter

[DieselWeasel]

hey nice pinch lift i really dont know if its hard or not i never tried it, but does this help your grip on the deadlift? or any other exercises for that matter

I don't know the amount of carryover between the pinch lift and the deadlift, but it's always good to improve your overall grip.

[bodybuilda]

I don't know the amount of carryover between the pinch lift and the deadlift, but it's always good to improve your overall grip.


ya i can always pinch people and make them cry :D

[DieselWeasel]

ya i can always pinch people and make them cry :D

Sicko! :D

[PitzaPapa]

diesel try plate wrist curls, i like them more than plate curls.

i cant even do a 25 for 1 rep with these.

nice pinch sir

[Squats]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sclerosis
As you can see, MS is the first thing up, like I said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoliosis
scoliosis, like I said, is what makes you were a brace.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Radok]

^ And Australia was like "WTF mate?"

Anyway, I bet with a 500 deadlift, you would really be fast with 325. It would be warmup weight.

[DieselWeasel]

12/19/05 - Push

This was my first training session with my new 2" thickbar.

2" Axle Clean and Press (new)
20 (empty bar) x 8
40x8
70x3
90x3
110x3
130x3
140x2
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_axle_press_140x2

[AJ010]

Heck yeah awesome axle press! You shoulda had that 1st rep...unlucky man!

[DieselWeasel]

Heck yeah awesome axle press! You shoulda had that 1st rep...unlucky man!

Thanks. Yeah, it probably was partly due to the fact that I used no leg drive with that first one.

[AJ010]

Thanks. Yeah, it probably was partly due to the fact that I used no leg drive with that first one.

I noticed, then you really turned the power on ha!

[moomoomonkeys]

12/18/05 - Grip

WOO! I finally did a one-hand full pinch lift with two 25lb plates. :)

Pinch Lift
two 10s x 6
three 10s x 3
two 25s x 0
two 25s x 1 (right) and 0 (left)* <= video: http://media.putfile.com/max_pinch_25s
two 25s x 0 (left)*

* I got at least a few inches of air on those two attempts with the left hand.

- After the pinch work, I did levering with my 10lb sledgehammer and training with my new IMTUG6 gripper along with partials with my CoC #3 too. I forgot to do plate curls, but I will remember to do them next time I do wrist training.
im gonna try them and see if i can do em :)

[DieselWeasel]

im gonna try them and see if i can do em :)

Git'r'dun! :D

[DieselWeasel]

UPDATE
My 2" thickbar is actually 17lbs empty, not 20lbs. So my 2" axle clean and press PR is 137x2 instead of 140x2. It was rounded up from 17 to 20 when it was shipped.

[DieselWeasel]

12/21/05 - Lower Body

2" Axle Power Clean and Front Squat (new)
17 (empty bar) x 8
37x8
67x3
87x3
107x3
127x3
157x0 <= almost did a continental clean, but missed it
147x0 <= same as above
142x5
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_axle_frontsquat_142x5

[DieselWeasel]

12/22/05 - Core

This was waaay more difficult than using an olympic barbell + dumbbell or kettlebell. I need to put colored tape at the center of the bar because I was having a lot of balance problems with the axle.

Two-Hands Anyhow w/ 2" Axle + Kettlebell (new)
111 (67lb axle + 44lb kettlebell) x 0 <= this happened a few times
81 (37 + 44) x 2
111 (67 + 44) x 1 <= finally did it, but the end was bad as you can see in the video
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_anyhow_111

- I busted my middle finger open somehow during that last set, so I took care of that and needed to cut the session short. I was only able to do some TTK (Titan's Telegraph Key) grip work after that.

[sword chucks]

damn, looks like a tough lift

[SFT]

Good job on the lifts, got some pretty interesting workouts going on. Just wanted to comment on the power clean/front squat. It almost looks like you are catching the clean with your arms rather than catching it in a racked position and then keeping it there for squats. I know you aren't an olympic lifter, but if you practice at it a bit, it can really save your wrists later on.

It was hard to see though so I don't know for sure, the last few vids have been dark. Good work.

[DieselWeasel]

Good job on the lifts, got some pretty interesting workouts going on. Just wanted to comment on the power clean/front squat. It almost looks like you are catching the clean with your arms rather than catching it in a racked position and then keeping it there for squats. I know you aren't an olympic lifter, but if you practice at it a bit, it can really save your wrists later on.

It was hard to see though so I don't know for sure, the last few vids have been dark. Good work.

I will try to use more light in the future and you can tell me if I'm doing it properly or not. Check my journal in about a week.

sword chucks: Yeah, it was tough because there were a bunch of times when I wasn't grasping the center of the axle. I fixed it now so that there's red tape in the middle of the bar which should help with the balance issue.

[DieselWeasel]

Tomorrow, I'm doing Coan/Phillipi Week 8. The dreaded, brutal 470x2 is taunting me, whispering, "You are a weak bitch!" and cackling defiantly. I will have unrelenting, grim determination on my side; the bar will have inescapable gravity on its side. We shall soon see who will prevail. :mad:

[AJ010]

Tomorrow, I'm doing Coan/Phillipi Week 8. The dreaded, brutal 470x2 is taunting me, whispering, "You are a weak bitch!" and cackling defiantly. I will have unrelenting, grim determination on my side; the bar will have inescapable gravity on its side. We shall soon see who will prevail. :mad:

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!!!! :D

[DieselWeasel]

12/24/05 - Coan/Phillipi (Week 8)

There was no more than 120 seconds rest between sets of every exercise except for the first group of deadlifts.

I failed at the knees when I attempted the second rep with 470, but that's fine because I know that I can lift 485, next week, regardless.

I did not have enough time to do the GMs due to the gym closing early (3:00 P.M.) because it's Christmas Eve.

Deadlift
135x8
225x3
315x3
405x1
470x1.5 (+15lb PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_dead_week8 <= includes speed deads too


Speed Deadlift
345x3
345x3
345x3


Power Shrug
340x5
340x5


Bent-Over Barbell Row
215x5
215x5


Underhand Lat Pulldown
210x5
210x5

- This pulldown machine at the commercial gym uses a higher poundage scheme compared to the campus weight room.

[Newbtime]

WTF.

You girl, you practicly cleaned the first rep, then you just gave up. :mad:

[DieselWeasel]

UPDATE

Lance told me that the 2" thickbar is actually 18 or 19lbs, so I'll say 20 because I have collars on each side anyway.

[DieselWeasel]

WTF.

You girl, you practicly cleaned the first rep, then you just gave up. :mad:

I think my CNS was totally fried after the first rep. :(

[AJ010]

hell yea man that was some good ****!

that guy was shakin his head in amazement :D

so yea remember...shins a bit from bar, shoulders behind bar, pull back, and try to get a synched lockout

keep it up man!!

[DieselWeasel]

hell yea man that was some good ****!

that guy was shakin his head in amazement :D

so yea remember...shins a bit from bar, shoulders behind bar, pull back, and try to get a synched lockout

keep it up man!!

I did a little "shock and awe" back there. ;)

Yeah, I need to remember those points when I deadlift again, next week. Thanks for the help. :)

[AJ010]

I did a little "shock and awe" back there. ;)

Yeah, I need to remember those points when I deadlift again, next week. Thanks for the help. :)

Haha yea rock on dude

[Gr8Ape]

Attempting a second rep was a little stupid........but im still very impressed.

[DieselWeasel]

Attempting a second rep was a little stupid........but im still very impressed.

It wasn't stupid if the deadlift routine listed 470x2, not 470x1.

[sword chucks]

good strength but ur lockout is TERRIBLE though

[Newbtime]

Attempting a second rep was a little stupid........but im still very impressed.
:confused:

http://www.ahajokes.com/cartoon/6thsense.jpg

[DieselWeasel]

good strength but ur lockout is TERRIBLE though

No offense but I was reading your training journal on AOL and was wondering why you don't do deadlifts.

[dirtpool]

watching you max on deads is like watching a monkey f*ck a goat
(no offence)

[DieselWeasel]

watching you max on deads is like watching a monkey f*ck a goat
(no offence)

Good job inserting the inappropriate "no offense" in there. :rolleyes:

[PitzaPapa]

so much power till you hit the knees deezy. after you finish coan you should focus your attention to your lockout, and you will be pulling huge numbers once you get it up to par.

[DieselWeasel]

so much power till you hit the knees deezy. after you finish coan you should focus your attention to your lockout, and you will be pulling huge numbers once you get it up to par.

Yeah, I will probably be doing a lot of rack pulls from the knees in February and maybe also March. I also need to start doing deadlifts with 325 for max reps in 60 seconds because I'm going to compete again in April. That training will be after the rack work.

[dirtpool]

Are you kidding?

Your mom gives blowjobs on the street corner for a nickel. She is a aid's ridden whore.
(no offense)

:rolleyes: x 2,000

the guy is strong (especially for his size) just awkward (as hell)...

btw, how'd you know my mom has aids?

[Radok]

Dw, if you are going to deadlift with a rounded back, you need to do the rack pulls with a rounded back. You are havind traouble locking out because you round your back to help you get it off the floor, but then have trouble straigtening your back. The rack lockouts would have to be done starting off with a rounded back, then straightening it in order to help the deadlifts. Either that, or start with a straight back from the floor, that would get rid of the lockout problem.

[Newbtime]

Dw, if you are going to deadlift with a rounded back, you need to do the rack pulls with a rounded back. You are havind traouble locking out because you round your back to help you get it off the floor, but then have trouble straigtening your back. The rack lockouts would have to be done starting off with a rounded back, then straightening it in order to help the deadlifts. Either that, or start with a straight back from the floor, that would get rid of the lockout problem.
Exactly.

This is why i suggested buying bands and doing reverse band pulls. Bro pick a weight u can lockout without hitching(clean reps) probally around 425?? And you will be pulling a nice 500+ with no hitchin.

[DieselWeasel]

Oldtime: Yeah, it just sucks that I don't train with anyone that knows how to use bands. But I guess I can probably learn how to use them on my own.


12/25/05 - Push

I used leg drive a lot better this time and was able to explode more.

2" Axle Clean and Press
40x8
70x3
90x3
110x3
140x7 (+5 reps PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_axle_cleanpress_140x7

[AJ010]

Nice presses man!! lol it was cool with the shadow


did you do that on purpose?

[DieselWeasel]

Nice presses man!! lol it was cool with the shadow


did you do that on purpose?

No, that was accidental. Nobody was there in the garage to record the video for me, so I tried to place the camera in a good spot. Unfortunately, the angle was bad. But you're right, the shadow effect is cool. :)

[KevinStarke]

Back was rounded as all hell on those deads and those were NOT speed pulls lol...

[DieselWeasel]

Back was rounded as all hell on those deads and those were NOT speed pulls lol...

Thanks for being yet another person who provides criticism which lacks any redeeming value whatsoever. Instead of telling me -why- my speed deadlifts "were NOT speed pulls LOLLERZZZ!@!#)(", the only thing you do is ridicule me. That's cool. :rolleyes:

[PitzaPapa]

Back was rounded as all hell on those deads and those were NOT speed pulls lol...

maybe because the pulls are 70% of a target single.

[DieselWeasel]

maybe because the pulls are 70% of a target single.

That's true. Kevin failed to realize that I'm following the Coan/Phillipi deadlift routine. How does it feel to be PWNED, Kevin? :D

[Woden]

Nice lifts dude, but watching you lift makes my back hurt :)

[DieselWeasel]

Nice lifts dude, but watching you lift makes my back hurt :)

Yeah, my training is brutal, but it works! :)

[Gr8Ape]

I said it was a stupid decision since your first rep was already so draining, succeeding another one was clearly impossible..........and I dont believe partial/forced/cheat reps in deadlift are really safe...

[moomoomonkeys]

nice lifts keep it up and i tried to pinch those 25's but i only got em half way up

[Newbtime]

I said it was a stupid decision since your first rep was already so draining, succeeding another one was clearly impossible..........LOL.

Dude, did the first rep pretty easy, if he wanted to i KNOW he could of ground out a second.

[dirtpool]

LOL.

Dude, did the first rep pretty easy, if he wanted to i KNOW he could of ground out a second.

you must have one hell of a cns to think that oldtime...no way you can monkey f*ck that hard twice in a row

[DieselWeasel]

12/26/05 - Lower Body

2" Axle Power Clean + ATG Front Squat
40x8
70x3
110x3
150x5 (+5lbs)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_axle_frontsquat_150x5

[dirtpool]

nice...you made that look real easy

do you know what your max clean with a barbell is?

[PitzaPapa]

nice squatting deez

dont you think maybe you should lose the belt and wraps etc for the high rep stuff and what not until close to your contest?

i dunno just thinkin you knowmsayin.

[DieselWeasel]

nice squatting deez

dont you think maybe you should lose the belt and wraps etc for the high rep stuff and what not until close to your contest?

i dunno just thinkin you knowmsayin.

I was wearing wrist wraps because there is huge pressure put on the wrists when doing many thickbar lifts. The knee pads were worn to keep my joints warm. The belt is worn so that I can be be sure to get that extra rep or two. I train like I compete which means that I wear protective gear whether I'm competing or training.

dirtpool: I don't know my current best barbell clean because I haven't done it in a long time.

[AJ010]

dude you really went atg with those good work!

[DieselWeasel]

dude you really went atg with those good work!

Thanks. :)

[Newbtime]

you must have one hell of a cns to think that oldtime...no way you can monkey f*ck that hard twice in a row
what does hitching have to do with the fact that he did the first rep with effort to spair? :confused:

[Radok]

Deez, I notice that when you hold the bar in the front squat position, your forearms are perpendicular to the ground. If you can learn to push them forward, (It's hard) until they are parallel to the floor, you would not have pressure on your wrists. You wouldn't need the wraps.

[DieselWeasel]

Deez, I notice that when you hold the bar in the front squat position, your forearms are perpendicular to the ground. If you can learn to push them forward, (It's hard) until they are parallel to the floor, you would not have pressure on your wrists. You wouldn't need the wraps.

Even if that's true, I would still need them because of the clean.

[Radok]

I see. But it would feel much better on the wrists if you could do it. I'm getting the hang of it now, and my wrists don't even bend backwards much anymore, it just sits on the traps.

[DieselWeasel]

I see. But it would feel much better on the wrists if you could do it. I'm getting the hang of it now, and my wrists don't even bend backwards much anymore, it just sits on the traps.

That might be too difficult with a thickbar.

[BenT]

Nice work, those really were ATG!

[SFT]

Nice front squats. Your arms are perpendicular rather than parallel to the ground. If you want to change this, try setting up the bar so it rests on your shoulder and focus on pointing the elbows forward. You will find the right groove pretty quickly, and when I do em usually only 3 of my fingers on each side are in contact with the bar. The good thing about learning to do front squats this way is eventually when you clean weight, your body will automatically start catching it that way. It makes it much safer on the wrists and probably more comfortable overall. Hope this helps and good luck.

Steve

[Newbtime]

Even if that's true, I would still need them because of the clean.
I think you could manage a 150 lb clean without the wraps. ;)

[TiZE 8)]

theres nothing wrong with wearing wraps

[DieselWeasel]

12/28/05 - Grip

Block Weights
17.5 York - deadlift warmup
25 hex - clean and press
25 hex - snatch
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_block_25_snatch

32.5 York - around the back pass
32.5 York - deadlift and hold
32.5 York - clean and press attempts

- My grip was weakened from the previous lifts with the 25lb and 32.5lb block weights. I will do the clean and press with my 32.5lb York, next grip day.


Plate Curl
5x8
10x6
25x5 <= My wrist was not straight when using the 25lb plate.


Titan's Telegraph Key
10x8
15x10 (+2lb PR)

[PitzaPapa]

just so you dont forget


PLATE WRIST CURLS TEEE HEE HEE

[DieselWeasel]

just so you dont forget


PLATE WRIST CURLS TEEE HEE HEE

Yeah, I'm trying those when I do grip again. Thanks for the suggestion on AIM. :)

[moomoomonkeys]

nice work diesal

[DieselWeasel]

12/30/05 - Coan/Phillipi (Week 9)

There was no more than 120 seconds rest between sets of every exercise except for the first group of deadlifts.

The 485x1 deadlift was ****in brutal. The lockout pissed me off because it was only momentary, but I'll take it.

Deadlift
135x8
225x3
315x3
405x1
485x1 (+15lb PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_485x1


Speed Deadlift
345x3
345x3


Power Shrug
340x5
340x5


Good Morning
155x5
155x5


- Here is the 485x1 momentary lockout screenshot from the video:

[Newbtime]

1337357!!!!!!

[PitzaPapa]

i like how u edit your video to look all professional and then in ur screen shot its a big white square done in paint or somin hehe :)

on coan it says dead, speed deads, shrugs, sldls.

how come gm's instead of sldl , you think ur bum is cooler than coans

[DieselWeasel]

i like how u edit your video to look all professional and then in ur screen shot its a big white square done in paint or somin hehe :)

on coan it says dead, speed deads, shrugs, sldls.

how come gm's instead of sldl , you think ur bum is cooler than coans

Microsoft Paint rocks your socks! :D

I missed GMs, last week, silly. :)

[AJ010]

i already told you everything on aim

whatever you do from this point on, best of luck d00d

[DieselWeasel]

i already told you everything on aim

whatever you do from this point on, best of luck d00d

Thanks for the advice, Mr. 490 Deadlift. :)

[BPP]

that wasn't locked out and without a gracious judge would not have counted in NAS

your knees might have locked, but your back was in no way upright nor pulled back....having done 6 contests and numerous exhibitions, 9/10 times thats not a good rep

going up on your toes like that hitching is asking for injury as well

[DieselWeasel]

that wasn't locked out and without a gracious judge would not have counted in NAS

your knees might have locked, but your back was in no way upright nor pulled back....having done 6 contests and numerous exhibitions, 9/10 times thats not a good rep

going up on your toes like that hitching is asking for injury as well

My back looks locked out along with my knees in that screenshot that I posted. But we can agree to disagree. That's fine.

[BPP]

NAS rules state the head must be up(good), knees locked(close enough from screenshot, bad angle), shoulders back(no)

your upepr body and shoulder needs to pull back

you can agree to disagree all you want, but im telling you what I've seena nd been told by NAS judges including president Willie Wessels

see attahced pic, blew it up 200%

shoulders/back need pulled back to finish the motion


like i told you on AIM tho, off the floor you're extremely strong, you just need to work on above the knees and lockouts...your knees dont hurt now, but you keep messin with near 500lbs up on your toes like that, and it wont take much to blow something one day

[DieselWeasel]

NAS rules state the head must be up(good), knees locked(close enough from screenshot, bad angle), shoulders back(no)

your upepr body and shoulder needs to pull back

you can agree to disagree all you want, but im telling you what I've seena nd been told by NAS judges including president Willie Wessels

see attahced pic, blew it up 200%

shoulders/back need pulled back to finish the motion


like i told you on AIM tho, off the floor you're extremely strong, you just need to work on above the knees and lockouts...your knees dont hurt now, but you keep messin with near 500lbs up on your toes like that, and it wont take much to blow something one day

Thanks for analyzing my video. Even if you're not always the most positive guy in my journal, you do what you need to do so that I'm safe and stay honest with myself.

The rack pulls will be included in my training after campus re-opens in early February. I'm still debating whether to do it from the knees or somewhere below the knees.

[BPP]

id take it from about 2" below the knees...start before the problem so that you make sure you cover the entire ROM of the weak point


im not alwyas positive bc ive been where you are...getting closer and closer to 500 with a back that could pull heavy 5 days a week without pain...and then out of the blue the pain started...and now its like a year and a half later and im just starting to get back over 400 pain free.....strongman is a sport where you push to the max all the time, and sooner or later injuries come with it

your strong enough off the floor to be pullin 3.5x bodyweight, just gotta make sure 1) you can lock it out, and 2) you can get there without having to take time off for rehab

[DieselWeasel]

id take it from about 2" below the knees...start before the problem so that you make sure you cover the entire ROM of the weak point


im not alwyas positive bc ive been where you are...getting closer and closer to 500 with a back that could pull heavy 5 days a week without pain...and then out of the blue the pain started...and now its like a year and a half later and im just starting to get back over 400 pain free.....strongman is a sport where you push to the max all the time, and sooner or later injuries come with it

your strong enough off the floor to be pullin 3.5x bodyweight, just gotta make sure 1) you can lock it out, and 2) you can get there without having to take time off for rehab

That sounds good. I'll probably do the rack pulls ~2" below the knees. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Newbtime]

that wasn't locked out and without a gracious judge would not have counted in NAS

your knees might have locked, but your back was in no way upright nor pulled back....having done 6 contests and numerous exhibitions, 9/10 times thats not a good rep

going up on your toes like that hitching is asking for injury as well
Who cares at this point, I think every single person on this site has told diesle to change his form....

[BPP]

Who cares at this point, I think every single person on this site has told diesle to change his form....

and the point of this was?

[Newbtime]

and the point of this was?
The point of this was:

Why do you even bother telling him he has bad form, you along with every other person on this site have done it over 3 times.

EDIT: Including me.

[Five]

It was never locked out. Not even close.

[SoG]

Get your butt down and drop the weight 50-100 pounds.

You do not want a back injury--10 weeks later and I'm still recovering...

Good luck.


-Dave

[sword chucks]

wish you would fix your form on deadlifts

good front squat vid though, damn that sure was low! haha

[DieselWeasel]

01/01/06 - Push

This was the first workout of the new year. :)

I think I used better leg drive last week.

2" Axle Power Clean and Push Press
40x8
70x3
90x3
110x3
145x5 (+5lb PR)
video: http://media.putfile.com/max_axle_cleanpress_145x5

[SFT]

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=586815

Interesting article about weaknesses in the deadlift. You could probably benefit from this a lot.

[mike_d]

I agree with bigpoppaproppy, rack pulls will do you good. You're really strong off the floor, lockout always seems to be the problem when I watch your videos. I think rack pulls will help you out a ton. The top/lockout was a little shaky, but I was impressed with how easily you got the bar above your knees on that pull. Keep it up man, just be careful with the hitching but rack pulls should help that anyways. Maybe even play around with different heights, do most of your stuff from below knee level but try a few really heavy pulls from at or a bit above knee level.

[DieselWeasel]

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=586815

Interesting article about weaknesses in the deadlift. You could probably benefit from this a lot.

Thanks for the hyperlink. I read that article already though. I'm going to try to use tips in that article to help my lockout strength.

mike_d: Yep. I will be doing that in February.

[SoG]

Honestly Max, the only problem is that your back strength is overpowering the rest of your posterior chain. You would probably be fine if you dropped the weight 50-100 pounds and started dropping your butt 5-6 inches lower before you pull. You're hamstrings and glutes would catch up over a few months and you'd end up a better lifter for it.

Remember--lifting is a long-term journey and the longer you leave out your weaknesses, the more prone you'll be to stalling later on and injuries.

Good luck,


-Dave

[Newbtime]

One thing i would like to add about rack pulls, DONT HITCH THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DieselWeasel]

Thanks for the advice, guys. However, I posted a workout today along with video (2" axle clean and press) and everyone seemingly ignored that and kept on going with the deadlift help.

EDIT: This might help you guys with determining my weakness(es): After my last Coan/Phillipi day, when I pulled 485, my hamstrings were more sore than even my lower back.

[PitzaPapa]

hams are are use a lot in getting the weight off the floor, also could be the gm's giving you the sore hams who knows.

id hit the rackpulls and gm's hard and focus on pushing hips through and not leaning back.

and nice presses btw. try and bring the barbell down to chest collar bone area and let it rest there when you do your leg drive. if you hold it in ur arms and ur arms are supporting it they will get tired and you wont put all your force from your leg drive into the barbell.

[DieselWeasel]

hams are are use a lot in getting the weight off the floor, also could be the gm's giving you the sore hams who knows.

id hit the rackpulls and gm's hard and focus on pushing hips through and not leaning back.

and nice presses btw. try and bring the barbell down to chest collar bone area and let it rest there when you do your leg drive. if you hold it in ur arms and ur arms are supporting it they will get tired and you wont put all your force from your leg drive into the barbell.

When I do my pull days in February, it will probably be like this:

Rack Pull at or below knees
Barbell Row
Barbell Shrug with straps
Good Morning
along with Dumbbell Hammer Curls, possibly

I thought the bar was resting on my upper chest between reps. Next time, I will try to be more aware of that.

[PitzaPapa]

dont forget to pull every once and a while so you dont forget how to deadlift. i wouldnt go ultra heavy tho, something you can lockout without leaning back.

definitely let it rest on body during the explosion between reps., you will transfer the force much better, and ur arms wont get so tired.

u will probly have a huge pr if you do just that that.