Pics from Contest Day

[Beast]

After looking at the photos, my assessment:

Contest Prep:
-I was holding too much water
-I was still a little too depleted, not much, but some
-The Dream Tan was applied to THICK

My Physique:
-Chest needs to be brought up
-Back THICKNESS needs to be brought up
-Traps need to be brought up
-Triceps need to be brought up
-Quads, Hams, Calves, and Shoulders are pretty good and will not require as much attention

On to the contest. As I mentioned, I weighed in a 180.4 lbs. I was the lightest out of 16 light-heavy weights.

I'm all the way on the right (all 16 of us were on stage at the same time)

[Beast]

I think my hams/glutes came in nicely

[Beast]

I'm all the way on the right

[Beast]

Me in the middle

[Beast]

Side Tri

[Harland]

man, looking crazy.

Got any pics of the winners, i want to see how they could of beat you....

[Beast]

#82 took 1st
#84 took 3rd

[Beast]

Notice the back thickness the guy in the middle has

[Beast]

The guy on the left has awesome triceps

[chuckles_345]

Derek, the fact that you were able to stand up there so close to these guys who are all prob way older than you is just amazing. The guy who took 1st did truly earn it. Do you have any more pics of the guys that beat u? I'd like to see the pic of the guy that got top 5 and really shouldn't have. Do you have ne of him? I'm very much looking forward to beast training 1.0 as well. Hopefully it will be up soon.

Chuckles

[Beast]

The guy on the left took 1st
The guy on the right took 5th I believe (but not sure)

[Harland]

damn those are some crazy physiques. You still gave them a contest.

[Beast]

These next few pics were taken about 2.5 hours after prejuding

[Beast]

Lat

[Beast]

Rear Bicep

[Beast]

rear db

[Beast]

Rear Lat

[Beast]

Side Arm

[Beast]

Last one. All comments welcome.

Double Side Arm

[Harland]

that last one is pretty crazy looking, good job. You won in my book.

[SavesTheMuscle]

Originally posted by Harland
that last one is pretty crazy looking, good job. You won in my book.

Bump to that!

Your hammies/glutes looked crazy! :eek: Awesome detail in back too.

When does the growing begin :D?

[antman49]

Your rear bicep and side arm poses look great. Don't think many can pull that off and look good. Did you intend to compete in the light-heavy division?

[Beast]

I thought I would come in weighing 185, but was actually 180. If I would have known I was going to be that light, I would have tried for the middle weight division.

The growing begins tomorrow :)

[antman49]

Did you find out where you actually placed? Middleweight is where I would have guessed for you. 10 more pounds, 190 for light-heavy. The guy that won did look shredded. Tough to go against that mature muscle.

[SavesTheMuscle]

Originally posted by Beast
The growing begins tomorrow :)
That right there, is a DEDICATED man.

Any word on the bulking section? ;) :D

[Beast]

Originally posted by antman49
Did you find out where you actually placed? Middleweight is where I would have guessed for you. 10 more pounds, 190 for light-heavy. The guy that won did look shredded. Tough to go against that mature muscle.

He was also super dry and vascular. Muscle maturity was definitely there. I won't know where I placed until they release the score cards (not sure when that will be).

[Beast]

Originally posted by SavesTheMuscle


Any word on the bulking section? ;) :D

Not yet. Email Ryan and ask ;)

[Romac]

Originally posted by Beast
Side Tri

that pose looks really good on you bro.

and you're smiling!!!!

[jhov]

1. The guy who got first deserved it.
2. The guy who you said maybe got 5th did not in mho you look better but it would take more pics to see better.
3. I am glad that you have such a great attitude about it, keep ya head up!
4. You were ripped as helll but holding water and as you said you did not seem as full onstage as you did in the pics taken later.
5. You are right of all your ''weaknesses'', You upper body gets a bit overshadowed by your lower body. All you need is some more mass and above all thickness in those areas you mentioned and you are set.
6. Your legs, esp. the hams, were awsome. With a drop in some water you were holding they would be even more awsome! Trully a scary thought! :thumbs up:
7. F*** the haters!!!! You did your best and your fysique is better then most on this board by far and most who are your age by far as well for that matter!!! Keep your head up, train hard, stay focussed/dedicated, experement a little to tweak your fysique in order to peak better and you will be dominant!!!
Bst of luck Derek!
peace
J

[NWP]

Derek, congrats on everything. I'm sure you are disappointed, but believe me, this will only help you to work that much harder. Most of those guys look a lot older and there is no way a person in their early 20's can have muscle maturity like men in the their mid to late 30's.
I'm just curious as to how you have planned out these next few weeks as far as raising calories are concerned. I know it's easy to eat everything in site and jump up 20 pounds in no time. I assume you are going to take a more moderate approach in raising calories. Can you give us a quick idea of what you have planned? Thanks.

[jimpern]

Derek, sorry you didn't place higher. Your attitude is admirable; no one likes to lose but at least you are viewing it as an educational experience. Every one else on the forum who loses a contest can learn from this post.

I think your self-assessment is right on the mark, except that, based on your photos, your back thickness is fine for your physique as it currently stands. In your "one day out" photos you looked a bit depleted, especially in your arms. As for holding water, it's hard to tell from photographs.

You're right about your traps; in the back-double-bi comparison photo posted above, your traps look anemic next to the guys standing on either side of you. Your triceps are deceiving: they look fine in your lat spreads but are overpowered by your biceps in your double-bi poses.

Coming in near the bottom of a weight class is never good. Obviously if you had made it down to 176 you might have done better in the middleweights. (Did you get to see the middleweights?) Now you have to build up so you can come in closer to 198 the next time.

Derek, you're young and intelligent and I'm sure you'll do better each time you compete. You're already a credit to the sport and this forum!

[Beast]

Originally posted by NWP
Derek, congrats on everything. I'm sure you are disappointed, but believe me, this will only help you to work that much harder. Most of those guys look a lot older and there is no way a person in their early 20's can have muscle maturity like men in the their mid to late 30's.
I'm just curious as to how you have planned out these next few weeks as far as raising calories are concerned. I know it's easy to eat everything in site and jump up 20 pounds in no time. I assume you are going to take a more moderate approach in raising calories. Can you give us a quick idea of what you have planned? Thanks.

I agree. Muscle maturity comes with age.

I'll be using Avant Labs' Phenogen, which is supposed to help decrease fat gain. I'll porbably add some extra SesaThin if I have any really bad meals.

[Harland]

good a review on pehnogen, I've been thinking of getting me some. :D

[Beast]

Originally posted by jimpern
Derek, sorry you didn't place higher. Your attitude is admirable; no one likes to lose but at least you are viewing it as an educational experience. Every one else on the forum who loses a contest can learn from this post.

I think your self-assessment is right on the mark, except that, based on your photos, your back thickness is fine for your physique as it currently stands. In your "one day out" photos you looked a bit depleted, especially in your arms. As for holding water, it's hard to tell from photographs.

You're right about your traps; in the back-double-bi comparison photo posted above, your traps look anemic next to the guys standing on either side of you. Your triceps are deceiving: they look fine in your lat spreads but are overpowered by your biceps in your double-bi poses.

Coming in near the bottom of a weight class is never good. Obviously if you had made it down to 176 you might have done better in the middleweights. (Did you get to see the middleweights?) Now you have to build up so you can come in closer to 198 the next time.

Derek, you're young and intelligent and I'm sure you'll do better each time you compete. You're already a credit to the sport and this forum!

Thank you for that assessment. I'll be hitting the deads and shrugs hard, that's for sure :D

I am going to be doing a push pull routine with emphasis on my Chest and Tris on the push day and Back and Traps on the pull day. I will be doing lower volume for my legs, shoulders, and biceps. I am ready to KILL IT tomorrow!

[cdawg]

Your hair come in very nicely just in time for the show.

[BigArmedFella]

Congrats bro! Looking forward to seeing the bulking section! :)

-Pace

[PuRE_FiBER]

take it easy on the legs bro.... they are way disproportionate to your upper body. theres definately a few areas to improve on your upper body as well. If I were you, I'd only do maintainence on my legs for a while till the upper body catch up.

[Beast]

Originally posted by Beast


I am going to be doing a push pull routine with emphasis on my Chest and Tris on the push day and Back and Traps on the pull day. I will be doing lower volume for my legs, shoulders, and biceps. I am ready to KILL IT tomorrow!

Yup PureFiber, that's what I'll be doing.

[Gibblets]

How do you maintain a bodypart? Just keep using the same weights and reps and not push yourself? Like say you could squat 315 x 10, but as you "maintain", 10 becomes pretty easy...so you would just never push for 11 or 12?

[Sp1ke]

Is this your first Non-teen contest? Because when you were a teen you did have an advantage on your built, but now that you have moved forward there might be guys who have been training for longer in the division you were placed and that might have been a determining factor.

You're still a role model for many teens on this board, good luck in the future, competitions after you turn 20 become VERY competitive

[Beast]

I'll be doing about half as many sets for legs, shoulders, and biceps as I will be doing for my chest, back, traps, and triceps. So it is not really maintaining, but rather focusing more on certain muscles while still providing a good stimulus to the others.

[Beast]

Originally posted by Sp1ke
Is this your first Non-teen contest? Because when you were a teen you did have an advantage on your built, but now that you have moved forward there might be guys who have been training for longer in the division you were placed and that might have been a determining factor.

You're still a role model for many teens on this board, good luck in the future, competitions after you turn 20 become VERY competitive

No, I won the men's middle weight at the two contests I did last year as well. If I did the middleweight this year, I probably would have placed well. But moving up a weight class and being at the bottom of it is a big change.

[lil-al]

dude u looked real good for that contest but holly **** derek in that side arms pic u r arms and forearms are just freaky, from the other pics i never realize how big u r arms were.

[CleanEater]

Hey derek I Have to say you handled your loss professionally and your self evaluation and attitude inspires me Good job keep being a mad man

[hardest]

Originally posted by Beast
Last one. All comments welcome.

Double Side Arm

The forearms and quads look as big as arnold's!

[N10CT]

Well done beast.

Your conditioning is excellent. Bodybuilding is a weird sport, similar to rowing, in that you spend so much time preparing for one event and yet the smallest mistake can cost you (eg your final prep). Still I thought the pics were great and while I honestly don't think you should have come first maybe 3rd or 4th should have been a more appropriate placing. But don't worry you are a winner for simply getting up there and having a go (I don't see any of these haters on stage) and as you said its all exeperience for next time.

I don't think even the biggest experts would not have learnt something from visiting here over the last 12 weeks or so. Personally the best thing I picked up was actually seeing carb cycling in action and being directed to the body recomp forums. Through this I have modified my own version of these diets to be more productive than ever and will be recommending this to all my trainees and athletes alike.

I really look forward to this upcoming bulking phase. One thing I'd love is to really see you bulk and I mean BULK. I depresses me when your highest bodyfat % off season is better than most people in summer, but hey I understand your dream of the clean bulk.

Anyway gotta run,
I look forward to 190+ next year (It is very doable).

N10CT

[MKB001]

derek, you looked awesome.

i think the fact that you were the lightest (and probably youngest) competitor totally affected the outcome.

the fact that you put on 7 pounds since last contest is awesome. figure in the extra fat u lost this contest as opposed to last year's and im guessing that you gained 10 pounds of muscle since then.

even tho, as u said, u were holding a lot of water, u definitely were still cut as hell. if u werent holding as much water and ur muscles were fuller, i think u would of had a great chance at top 5.

congratulations on ur excellent progress thus far in your career.

-matt

[Mad_Dog_Divine]

I think your weight is the major factor. In all the pre-contest pics you look absolutely fantastic and rather freaky but the reality is that some of the guys you are competing against were quite a bit heavier than you. I understand that you want to win next year but remember the year after that too. Next year you could weigh abt 190, the year after just under 198 which would make you the biggest guy there. Add in the effects of muscle maturity as well as a bigger chest and all your other weaknesses bought up and I cant see how you be beaten in 2 years time.

But of course you have a great chance next year as well. It all depends on the percieved size difference between you and the other men.

I absolutely admire your determination and dedication, you deserve to go far in this sport. Good luck :)

[nimrod]

Hi derek, glad to c that u r staying positive.

My personal comments on yr contest shape:

1) Notice yr Front LAT spread, yr traps cant be seen. Was wondering whether it's d way u hold d pose or Maybe u shld improved on d upper traps.

2) Front & Rear DB Biceps, shld improve sweep of Triceps.

3) Upper Chest thickness...

The rest of yr body parts r ok....

Fyi, i stil prefer to see u in off season shape... simply ...AWESOME!! ;)

[Mighty Mikey G]

Do you know the age of the other competitors? They looked alot older than you.

[Beast]

Yeah they were all older. Some had kids I would say around 6 or 7. All I know is I enjoyed myself, learned a tremendous amount of info, and am more motivated than ever.

Thank you everyone for the kind and encouraging words.

[rookejr]

I have nothing but respect for you guys that compete, but one thing I have noticed looking at you, Layne, Shane, and some other guys, is that in ya'lls pics leading up to the contests, you guys are always looking thick and ripped up, but your on stage photos don't seem to even compare to your pre contest pics. I'm always suprised at how much better I thought ya'll looked in the pics you posted leading up to the contests. You guys all look amazing, but it seems like you guys loose sooo much mass for the shows but you don't get that much more shredded. I dunno, I'm no pro, but maybe someone can explain what I'm missing.

[Blasphemy]

Originally posted by rookejr
I have nothing but respect for you guys that compete, but one thing I have noticed looking at you, Layne, Shane, and some other guys, is that in ya'lls pics leading up to the contests, you guys are always looking thick and ripped up, but your on stage photos don't seem to even compare to your pre contest pics. I'm always suprised at how much better I thought ya'll looked in the pics you posted leading up to the contests. You guys all look amazing, but it seems like you guys loose sooo much mass for the shows but you don't get that much more shredded. I dunno, I'm no pro, but maybe someone can explain what I'm missing. it's the oil.

[Beast]

Originally posted by rookejr
I have nothing but respect for you guys that compete, but one thing I have noticed looking at you, Layne, Shane, and some other guys, is that in ya'lls pics leading up to the contests, you guys are always looking thick and ripped up, but your on stage photos don't seem to even compare to your pre contest pics. I'm always suprised at how much better I thought ya'll looked in the pics you posted leading up to the contests. You guys all look amazing, but it seems like you guys loose sooo much mass for the shows but you don't get that much more shredded. I dunno, I'm no pro, but maybe someone can explain what I'm missing.

I know I was too depleted. I needed more carbs. There are also certain things that we do in order to try and look better:
Carb deplete then carb load
Sodium load then deplete
Water load then deplete
If you do not nail these perfectly you will look less than you best. I am starting to question whether all the final manipulation is necessary. Because as you said, we all look great leading up to the contest, but then look smaller. I think next year I will do use less manipulation techniques and just stay steady.

[adonis]

derek one thing jay cutler said to me in an email is that you shouldnt muck around too much in the final week. if you are looking good, just go in looking like that because if you **** up you've potentially ruined all 16 or so weeks of dieting for the moment that counts

[adonis]

another thing

you get judged on dirty trunks believe it or not

so i advise you pump up or whatever in something else and the moment before you step on stage you don on your immaculate posing trunks

[gusto]

while you look ****ing awesome alone, side by sides are tough because of the weight class


you look really awesome, seeing you cut down was great


i think with weight cutting experience, you will have no problem placing higher

[JWangSDC]

I think a lot of it is the side by side comparison. Everything is relative...what looks amazing when you are naked next to your gf, can look like a somalian when put next to Ronnie Coleman.




Originally posted by rookejr
I have nothing but respect for you guys that compete, but one thing I have noticed looking at you, Layne, Shane, and some other guys, is that in ya'lls pics leading up to the contests, you guys are always looking thick and ripped up, but your on stage photos don't seem to even compare to your pre contest pics. I'm always suprised at how much better I thought ya'll looked in the pics you posted leading up to the contests. You guys all look amazing, but it seems like you guys loose sooo much mass for the shows but you don't get that much more shredded. I dunno, I'm no pro, but maybe someone can explain what I'm missing.

[Beast]

GOOD TIPS ADONIS!!!

[Hardcore Natural]

Originally posted by Beast
I know I was too depleted. I needed more carbs. There are also certain things that we do in order to try and look better:
Carb deplete then carb load
Sodium load then deplete
Water load then deplete
If you do not nail these perfectly you will look less than you best. I am starting to question whether all the final manipulation is necessary. Because as you said, we all look great leading up to the contest, but then look smaller. I think next year I will do use less manipulation techniques and just stay steady.

Yes, too many people try to manipulate this or that, and get thinking about too many things...when you think too hard about stuff, you end up thinking too much and then you lose focus on the basics of what's going on.

I personally feel that you have to listen to your body, and learn what works for you. And if you are looking "on", then don't change a damn thing....if you are looking off, well then go ahead and try something in the last week, cuz then you have nothing to lose anyways. But by 1 week out, you should be contest ready...plain and simple....and if you're not, there is no last minute things you can really do to dramatically change any of it. If you are holding water 1 week out, well, there is only so much you can do. If you are still have too much fat, there is not much you can do, if you are not depleted enough to take advantage of the carb-up, then there is not much you can do. I think too many people rely on the last 3 days to make a "miracle transformation" thinking that when they wake up on Saturday morning they are going to be some massively dry, ripped to the bone anatomy chart....which could be true, but only if you were that way already at 1 week out.

It's all a learning experience, and once you have learned how to be "contest ready" 1 week out, and then make the proper small manipulations from 3 days out on, you will then be 100% dialed in.

My 2 Cents!

[JingleAllTheWAY]

i hate to say this. but i think the shape of your abs had a little bit to do with your placing.

[Mighty Mikey G]

Originally posted by JingleAllTheWAY
i hate to say this. but i think the shape of your abs had a little bit to do with your placing.

Apparently you are unfamiliar with a guy named Ronnie Coleman.

[JWangSDC]

LoL, I'm sure ronnie coleman's abs cost him a bit here and there. But derek's abs are nothing like Ronnie's with that massive gap in between, I think his lower abs could come in a lil bit more defined though.


Originally posted by Mighty Mikey G
Apparently you are unfamiliar with a guy named Ronnie Coleman.

[JWangSDC]

Does this mean you'll be leaving comments or reviews on Phenogen? And you've already used Sesathin with good results correct? I'm only wondering because I'm considering getting both for me, and my gf and lil sister. hehe.


Originally posted by Beast
I agree. Muscle maturity comes with age.

I'll be using Avant Labs' Phenogen, which is supposed to help decrease fat gain. I'll porbably add some extra SesaThin if I have any really bad meals.

[mikey_7777]

Derek ,
Is good to see young ppl to have passion for bodybuilding to be persistent for your goals.Youre example give to all of us strength to continiue not only in body/ing but to the life also.
About this contest, to win this class or atleast to be to the top 3 you need 2-3 years more of bodybuilding cause simply you need more mass.I suggest: Hard work on your weak bodyparts,lift heavy,eat big and sleep 8-10 hours.
Or you can change to a lighter class.



Thanks......
mickey_7777

[Natural84]

I opened up the contest pics and my words verbatum were "holy **** that guy is rediculous." Although ive been following your transformation over the last 15 weeks, i have to admit no matter how dedicated i thought you were i doubted your shreddability. you proved me wrong. i dont see really any water retention anywhere except for maybe the legs otherwise all is good. My only question is what are your recent measurements as of post competition day.

[Beast]

Originally posted by Natural84
I opened up the contest pics and my words verbatum were "holy **** that guy is rediculous." Although ive been following your transformation over the last 15 weeks, i have to admit no matter how dedicated i thought you were i doubted your shreddability. you proved me wrong. i dont see really any water retention anywhere except for maybe the legs otherwise all is good. My only question is what are your recent measurements as of post competition day.

Thanks buddy. I was holding water in my legs as you mentioned and love handles (My two problem areas). I'll post my post contest measurements this weekend.

P.S.- Shreddability is the word of the day!

[AYung]

After seeing you pics...I was really motivated and I looked up info about competitions and learned all 7 manditory poses and some more! After reading this post it gave me a huge boost of intensity in my workouts seeing how you completley changed your life has made me want to become a competitive bodybuilder so I am training as hard as possible! Thanks Derek!

[Beast]

That's cool Ayung. At 15 years old, you have plenty of time to grow. Just remember, growing takes times and consistency is the key. Good luck buddy.

[AYung]

Thanks again...didnt you start at 15 years old? Because theres a pic in one of your articles...you look much younger

[Beast]

Yup, I started at 15 as well.

[AYung]

Was your diet strict from the start? Or did it take time..

[dduckie405]

So how long until the next show?

[Dorian_Yates]

Why the hell did you only do one contest? Personally when i get in contest shape i do atleast 5 contests. Last summer i did 9 contests in a span of about 7 weeks. I think its a waste to diet for 4 months just for one contest.

[Mighty Mikey G]

Originally posted by Dorian_Yates
Why the hell did you only do one contest? Personally when i get in contest shape i do atleast 5 contests. Last summer i did 9 contests in a span of about 7 weeks. I think its a waste to diet for 4 months just for one contest.

um haven't you been retired since 97? You always only did the Olympia so what are you talking about?



































:D

[Beast]

Originally posted by Dorian_Yates
Why the hell did you only do one contest? Personally when i get in contest shape i do atleast 5 contests. Last summer i did 9 contests in a span of about 7 weeks. I think its a waste to diet for 4 months just for one contest.

I would rather use this time to make improvements.

[Dorian_Yates]

Originally posted by Beast
I would rather use this time to make improvements.

Then why even compete? Im takeing the next 2 years off

[Beast]

Originally posted by Dorian_Yates
Then why even compete?

It's fun and I enjoy doing it. There is more to life than trophies.

[musclefreak]

Originally posted by Beast
I thought I would come in weighing 185, but was actually 180. If I would have known I was going to be that light, I would have tried for the middle weight division.

The growing begins tomorrow :)


Even though u didnt place first as far as i am concerned u won!The prejudging pics of u and the contest pics of u are awesome!I know tht u pointed out some flaws and all and thts a good thing to do so u know how u wanna come in when your contest rolls around,but all and all i think u looked great!You are by far a real dedicated bodybuilder.Did u place in the top 10?Keep up the good work!,and Way to Go!

Eric

[str8flexed]

Originally posted by Beast
The guy on the left took 1st
The guy on the right took 5th I believe (but not sure)

they put him in 5th over you? Hmm, I think that's a bit ridiculous

[OldUser982]

way to represent derek....legs were lookin sick, as well as back seperation

[musclefreak]

Originally posted by Dflood
way to represent derek....legs were lookin sick, as well as back seperation

Are u saying Derek's legs and his back seperation didnt look good?I disagree.

Eric

[samueljrusso]

Originally posted by musclefreak:
Are u saying Derek's legs and his back seperation didnt look good?I disagree.


i believe he means sick as in awesome

[Beast]

LOL, english slang.
Bad = Good
Sick = Good
Good = Good
WTF is up with that :)

[Tma2]

Beast, why do you suck? Sorry bodybuilder.

[OldUser982]

Originally posted by Beast
LOL, english slang.
Bad = Good
Sick = Good
Good = Good
WTF is up with that :)

lol...glad we cleared this up

[chuckles_345]

Originally posted by Tma2
Beast, why do you suck? Sorry bodybuilder.


What the hell? Lets see your pics newbie! I think Derek would own you.

Chuckles

[musclefreak]

Originally posted by samueljrusso
Originally posted by musclefreak:
Are u saying Derek's legs and his back seperation didnt look good?I disagree.


i believe he means sick as in awesome

ok cool!!!!!!!!thanks for clearing tht up for me.

Eric

[Thorazine]

The "shape" of your abs has very little to do with your placing.

Curious what you did for your water depletion derek...when did you cut it, etc.

As you said, you were pretty much dry except for your legs, though they were pretty damn close!

It boils down to maturity man...2-3 more years of dieting down and bulking back up and your skin is going to be so ****ing thin you'll be a grainy mess of veins.

Can't wait can you? ;)

Thorazine

[Beast]

Originally posted by Thorazine
The "shape" of your abs has very little to do with your placing.

Curious what you did for your water depletion derek...when did you cut it, etc.

As you said, you were pretty much dry except for your legs, though they were pretty damn close!

It boils down to maturity man...2-3 more years of dieting down and bulking back up and your skin is going to be so ****ing thin you'll be a grainy mess of veins.

Can't wait can you? ;)

Thorazine

I wish my legs would have came in dryer. I think another reason they were holding water is I was on my feet too much. I put my Dream Tan on backstage, then basically stood the whole time. Last year, I sat and my legs looked much better.

I'm gonna PM you Thor.

[musclefreak]

Originally posted by Beast
I wish my legs would have came in dryer. I think another reason they were holding water is I was on my feet too much. I put my Dream Tan on backstage, then basically stood the whole time. Last year, I sat and my legs looked much better.

I'm gonna PM you Thor.

i am not familar with legs holding water can u explain tht to me?

Eric

[Surfninja311]

Originally posted by Harland
that last one is pretty crazy looking, good job. You won in my book.


bump
you look great in that pose.

[ghostdog]

looks good i agree with that you should make your back thicker

[GUNZOFNAVARONE]

derek,

nice job...the effort it takes to compete is to be admired, those that haven't tried really do not know the level of dedication it takes.i have been gone some time, so i don't know when your show was, but i do have some observations.

1. as far as your triceps go, you are right, they need to be brought up.

2. your back, while having definition, as you said needs some thickness. what are you currnetly doing to add some mass there?

again nice job.

good luck in the future

[PlanetStud]

What competition was that? Because Im going into competing soon but Im terrified if thats the standard of all natural competitions!!

ps darek you did GREAT, well done you have a championship physique.

[Beast]

What competition was that? Because Im going into competing soon but Im terrified if thats the standard of all natural competitions!!

ps darek you did GREAT, well done you have a championship physique.

This was the NPC Michigan Natural.

[PlanetStud]

Well im 18 so i guess the teen first timers wont be to that standard. Ill make some web space today and get a few pics up.

[BellaLove]

Your girlfriend must looooove you to death!

From a woman's point of view, that's one hell of a body. You have drive, determination and consistency. It shows in every inch you let us see of yourself. Just think of where you'll be in a year, 2 years, even 5 years!! You'll have your pro-card before you know it. Well, I'm going to go take another look at your pictures again.

[Mighty Mikey G]

Your girlfriend must looooove you to death!

From a woman's point of view, that's one hell of a body. You have drive, determination and consistency. It shows in every inch you let us see of yourself. Just think of where you'll be in a year, 2 years, even 5 years!! You'll have your pro-card before you know it. Well, I'm going to go take another look at your pictures again.

Oh that's so sweet

[Beast]

Your girlfriend must looooove you to death!

From a woman's point of view, that's one hell of a body. You have drive, determination and consistency. It shows in every inch you let us see of yourself. Just think of where you'll be in a year, 2 years, even 5 years!! You'll have your pro-card before you know it. Well, I'm going to go take another look at your pictures again.

:D

[goth666]

i think u have a fan Derek. :)

[crazykid46]

Lay off the Dream tan as much. I opened the first pic and went "C3PO?" You look WAY too golden in it.

Other than that, everything else seemed pretty good. I don't know jack about bodybuilding (which is why I'm here) but according to everyone else, not bad.

Good luck on your next contest.

[bazzi]

After looking at the photos, my assessment:

Contest Prep:
-I was holding too much water
-I was still a little too depleted, not much, but some
-The Dream Tan was applied to THICK

My Physique:
-Chest needs to be brought up
-Back THICKNESS needs to be brought up
-Traps need to be brought up
-Triceps need to be brought up
-Quads, Hams, Calves, and Shoulders are pretty good and will not require as much attention

On to the contest. As I mentioned, I weighed in a 180.4 lbs. I was the lightest out of 16 light-heavy weights.

I'm all the way on the right (all 16 of us were on stage at the same time)

HAHA that one guy in the first pic looks shocked or something.

[TheOMEGA]

Derek next time you compete I want to set you up with 2 of our products

[Beast]

Derek next time you compete I want to set you up with 2 of our products

Sure thing Omega. I won't be competing again until next Summer, but I'll keep you up to date.

[TheOMEGA]

Great

you have a great road ahead of you
congrats!
:)

[Kaja]

Lookign good!
What's your goal, to get as big as Cutler and Coleman? or are you going to maintain how you're at now?

[WorldMuscle]

Hey man, worldmuscle here bro, been a year or so. Good to see your still going




That guy in the 2nd pic, I think he was left of you and black, he looks just like louis gosset Junior(Iron Eagle, The Substitute, Numerous action movies)


Page me on aim sometime bro.

WorldMuscle as always