Neogenix Supremacy Log (Sponsored)

[leonidas300]

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Supremacy is a synergistic matrix of specialized herbal extracts designed to optimize endogenous hormone levels for enhancing muscle growth while accelerating fat loss. This is systematically done by modulating estrogen levels, indirectly increasing testosterone production, freeing bound inactive testosterone, and reducing cortisol and prolactin levels while improving nutrient utilization.

For maximum results, a dosing protocol of up the 8-weeks may be utilized by athletes wanting to experience the full muscle building/hormone optimizing potential only Supremacy can provide!


Supremacy features a Pro-Anabolic blend of:

Cissus Quadrangularis Ketosterone Extract contains a unique blend of vitamins and minerals with a standardized amount of plant sterol compounds that has been shown to strengthen the tissues of the body. By using this high potency extract we can deliver the proper ratios of this active compound to the target sites with precision. This unique extract has been shown to effectively reduce catabolic hormones thus enhancing the recovery of muscles, tendons, ligaments and even bone.

Urtica Dioica Lignan Complex contains an excellent testosterone optimizing compound called Conjugated (-)3,4-divanillyl-tetrahydrofuran. This produces a positive effect upon free/active circulating testosterone levels by unbinding bound inactive testosterone back it into circulation for use in the body while reducing BPH which can arise from DHT conversion, a natural reaction caused by any increase in testosterone levels. The result is more testosterone to bind to androgen receptors and produce a favorable response - Muscle Growth!

Mormordica Chirantia Extract contains compounds that can be derived only thorough specialized extraction processes that possesses super potent hypoglycemic properties. These extracts have been shown to effectively modulate blood-sugar levels by increasing glucose utilization for accelerated intracellular nutrient transport and delivery.

Vitex Agnus Monoterpene Complex contains several different constituents, including flavonoids, iridoid glycosides, and terpenoids which possess prolactin-suppressive properties. The benefits of Vitex stem from its actions upon the pituitary gland, specifically on the production of a hormone called luteinizing hormone (LH). This indirectly increases testosterone production while also helping keep prolactin secretions in check.

6-Bromolane (6-bromo-3,17-dioxoetioallocholane) is a potent new AI (aromatase-inhibitor) for safely controlling the amount of estrogen your body produces while indirectly increasing testosterone levels. Unlike AI?s of the past, 6-Bromolane has no negative impact upon libido. As a matter of fact, users are reporting quite the opposite. It would seem that increased testosterone production, modulated estrogen levels and a heightened libido are now the new standard.

Forskohlii Diterpine Complex directly stimulates the enzyme adenylate cyclase, and subsequently the cell-regulating substance called cAMP (cyclic adenosine monophosphate). By stimulating cAMP, circulating hormones are optimized for enhanced utilization for extended periods of time, overcoming any receptor site down-regulation that may occur with an extended dosing protocol.

Piper Nigrum Extract has been shown to enhance the absorption of nutrients and increases the percentage of active ingredients that reach the target cells. This means better absorption while also extending the active half-life of several muscle building ingredients found only in Supremacy.

Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 90

Proprietary Herbal Matrix: 673gm
Cissus Quadrangularis Ketosterone Extract, Urtica Dioica Lignan Complex, Momordica Charantia Extract, Vitex Agnus Monoterpene Complex, Forskohlii Diterpine Complex, 6-Bromolane (6-bromo-3,17-dioxoetioallocholane), Piper Nigrum Extract.

Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Gelatin, Magnesium Stearate

Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement, take 1 capsule 3 times daily with meals. Take for up to 8-weeks continuously followed by a 4-week break. Individuals in excess of 100kg may utilize a dosing protocol of up to 4 capsules daily if desired.

Stacks & Cycles: For information on how to stack Supremacy, https://www.neogenix.net/supremacy-p-83.html
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[leonidas300]

Measurement's and Before Shots.
Measurement's

* Weight: 225 lbs.
* BiCeps: 16.25"
* Calves: 16"
* Thighs: 23.55"
* Waist: 36"
*Bodyfat: 18.5%


Measurements are taken while flexed..

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[Eyedentify]

Subbed..

[Eyedentify]

What is your expectation for this product, do you think it can match that of Jungle Warfare or HLG?

[leonidas300]

I need to preface this log by stating that I have already been taking Supremacy for about 5 days. Products like this usually take about 10-14 days to kick in so if you want to know what my earlier workouts were like you can check out the log I just finished. I am dropping Anabolic Pump for the remainder of this log to judge the effectiveness of this product better. I will continue to take Primal NO2 (vasoexplode) preworkout. So far I am not feeling any different since begining this product but I do not expect to feel any results for about another week.

[leonidas300]

I am going to continue a Power/Rep Range/Shock Routine.

Power Chest
Bench Press
225 x 6
235 x 6
235 x 6 (drop set)
135 x 9 partials


Decline (Hammer0
295 x 6
295 x 6
295 x 6 (drop)
205 x 9 (partials)

Incline (Hammer)
225 x 5
225 x 5 (drop)
135 x 9 (partials)

Close Grip Bench Press
135 x 7
135 x 8
135 x 8

Tricep Rope Extensions
110 x 10
110 x 8
110 x 8

Ab Work
Stretching

Thoughts as I mentioned earlier I do not expect to feel much from this product as these formulations usually take a bit to build up in your system. I do like the Cissus added in the formulation, nice touch. Reduces cortisol with the other anabolic compounds.

[Eyedentify]

I need to preface this log by stating that I have already been taking Supremacy for about 5 days. Products like this usually take about 10-14 days to kick in so if you want to know what my earlier workouts were like you can check out the log I just finished. I am dropping Anabolic Pump for the remainder of this log to judge the effectiveness of this product better. I will continue to take Primal NO2 (vasoexplode) preworkout. So far I am not feeling any different since begining this product but I do not expect to feel any results for about another week.

I see, so many variations of these 'natural anabolics' nowadays :D

I can think of 5 different stacks from 5 different company to try in the future. :D

[leonidas300]

I see, so many variations of these 'natural anabolics' nowadays :D

I can think of 5 different stacks from 5 different company to try in the future. :D

There are quite a few of them around these days, it definitely makes picking a product quite difficult.

[Eyedentify]

There are quite a few of them around these days, it definitely makes picking a product quite difficult.

You are absolutely right, I was struggling between **** and Gaspari stack a couple of days ago, at the end of the day I decided just to try both of them nevertheless. :D

And then I remember there are also the AX stack that I haven't tried (with their latest Hyperdrol v2, MassFX v2 and Retain v2), and also the new Ergo's stack with their 11-OXO and 6-OXO Extreme, and now we have Neogenix Trinity.

Wew! Tough choices... LOL!

Guess I just have try all five of 'em sometime in the future :D

[LJ57]

Subbed...You've got a great start and can't wait to see what kind of progress you make with the Supremacy!

[leonidas300]

Subbed...You've got a great start and can't wait to see what kind of progress you make with the Supremacy!

thanks, quotes from Killing Joke, you might be as old as me.

[LJ57]

thanks, quotes from Killing Joke, you might be as old as me.

Yeah I'm 30 so I grew up with Killing Joke since the late 80's.

[Mickfootie]

Nice start mate. Like to see how this works. :)

[SHOWTIME]

nice start..sub'd look forward to seeing if you enjoy some good progress

[leonidas300]

Power Week
ATG Squats
3 Warm up Sets
225 x 8'
225 x 8
225 x 8

Sumo Deadlifts
225 x 6
225 x 6
225 x 6

Machine Squats
195 x 12
220 x 10
235 x 8

Standing Calf Raises
235 x 12
235 x 11
235 x 10

Ez bar Curls
80 x 9
80 x 9
80 x 8

Incline bench Curls
40's x 8
45's x 5
45's x 5

Cardio - 15 minutes
Stretching

Thoughts My strength has taken a bit of a dip lately and I guess my body may just be tired. My workouts have been decent but the energy has just not been as good as a couple of weeks ago. Cardio however went great and I was able to increase the number and duration of sprints tonight so that was positive. Nothing really noticeable yet but I am expecting to start feeling this by about next Wednesday.

[Big_Tom(tk)]

Looks good! Im following for sure! Good Luck!

[leonidas300]

Off day, was a lazy bastard today.

[leonidas300]

Back
Pull Ups
15
11
8

V Handle Pulldowns
200 x 6
200 x 6
200 x 6 (drop set)
140 x 4 (partial reps)

Dumbell Rows
55's x 7
55's x 7 (drop)
27.5's x 7 (partial reps)

Med Grip Pull Downs
180 x 6
180 x 6

Under Grip Pull Downs
180 x 6
180 x 6 (drop)
135 x 5 (partials)

Hammer Curls
50's x 6
50's x 5
30's x 5 brief rest 30's x 5

Shrugs
80's x 6
80's x 6 (drop)
50's x 6
50's x 6

No Cardio or Ab work

Thoughts Very good workout and strength was good today. I have noticed that recovery seems to be increasing a bit between workouts in that I am not as sore or as wore out the next day. No other effects are noticeable at this time but this product should start taking effect around this time.

[Mickfootie]

What other supplements are you using in conjuction with this Leo?

[leonidas300]

What other supplements are you using in conjuction with this Leo?

I am taking Primal No2 + 6 pills clear edge in the morning instead of coffee, I like the focus it gives me for work.

So currently:
Multi
B12
B100
Flax and Fish Oil
Primal No2 (morning)
Clear Edge (morning)
Whey + Oats preworkout
Anabolic Window (postworkout)
Supremacy 3 times daily

I have dropped Cissus and Anabolic Pump for the time being so as to not interfere with the results of the log, however I believe the two products may work very well together. Supremacy also contains Cissus so I am curious as to whether it is dosed high enough to keep joint pain at a minimum.

[Mickfootie]

I am taking Primal No2 + 6 pills clear edge in the morning instead of coffee, I like the focus it gives me for work.

So currently:
Multi
B12
B100
Flax and Fish Oil
Primal No2 (morning)
Clear Edge (morning)
Whey + Oats preworkout
Anabolic Window (postworkout)
Supremacy 3 times daily

I have dropped Cissus and Anabolic Pump for the time being so as to not interfere with the results of the log, however I believe the two products may work very well together. Supremacy also contains Cissus so I am curious as to whether it is dosed high enough to keep joint pain at a minimum.

Sounds like a plan.... :)

[-SDR-]

Where is your nutrient intake at right now and what was it before starting the log?

[leonidas300]

Where is your nutrient intake at right now and what was it before starting the log?

I don't typically count calories and macros but tend to eat similar meals on most days. What I have done differently since starting this log is I have added an extra Whey/Casein + Oats + Flax Oil + Milk shake every night before I go to bed so as to increase my calorie intake by around 500 calories based upon an earlier recommedation. Sorry I left that out in the above post.

[leonidas300]

Cardio - 30 minutes
Ab Work

Will update again after tonight's workout.

[-SDR-]

If can't remember if I mentioned it or not before you started, but you should take Supremacy about 15min before meals with water. This improves the absorption and effectiveness of the extracts it contains.

[Big_Tom(tk)]

I am taking Primal No2 + 6 pills clear edge in the morning instead of coffee, I like the focus it gives me for work.

So currently:
Multi
B12
B100
Flax and Fish Oil
Primal No2 (morning)
Clear Edge (morning)
Whey + Oats preworkout
Anabolic Window (postworkout)
Supremacy 3 times daily

I have dropped Cissus and Anabolic Pump for the time being so as to not interfere with the results of the log, however I believe the two products may work very well together. Supremacy also contains Cissus so I am curious as to whether it is dosed high enough to keep joint pain at a minimum.

This is what I was hoping for as well. So far the pains i have been having in my elbow and shoulders before Supremacy have almost completely disappeared.

[leonidas300]

If can't remember if I mentioned it or not before you started, but you should take Supremacy about 15min before meals with water. This improves the absorption and effectiveness of the extracts it contains.

I always take it before meals. Never on an empty tummy.

[alvin1]

good log keep it up !

[leonidas300]

Legs

3 warm up sets
BOX SQUATS
165 x 20
165 x 20
165 x 20

NARROW STANCE SQUATS (feet touching)
135 x 15
135 x 15
135 x 15

STANDING CALF RAISES
200 x 16
200 x 16
200 x 16

CARDIO - Interval Sprints 20 minutes
STRETCHING

THOUGHTS Well I was about ready to puke after the box squats which are a pain in the ass and I also have not done 20 rep squats in quite some time. Very different type of strength involved. Good workout overall. Energy has been up slightly the past couple of days along with libido. I will be keeping track of this.

[-SDR-]

Legs

3 warm up sets
BOX SQUATS
165 x 20
165 x 20
165 x 20

NARROW STANCE SQUATS (feet touching)
135 x 15
135 x 15
135 x 15

STANDING CALF RAISES
200 x 16
200 x 16
200 x 16

CARDIO - Interval Sprints 20 minutes
STRETCHING

THOUGHTS Well I was about ready to puke after the box squats which are a pain in the ass and I also have not done 20 rep squats in quite some time. Very different type of strength involved. Good workout overall. Energy has been up slightly the past couple of days along with libido. I will be keeping track of this.

God that must have burned. Think you might be feeling that one tomorrow :) BTW, log is looking great!

[leonidas300]

God that must have burned. Think you might be feeling that one tomorrow :) BTW, log is looking great!

Yes they burned quite a bit. Something that I mentioned in Sappers log and needs to be reiterated here is that the past two nights I have experienced incredibly vivid dreams. Normally I can not remember my dreams even vaguely so this is another area I will be keeping an eye on.

[leonidas300]

Chest

Dumbbell Press
60's x 12
60's x 12
60's x 12

Decline Dumbbell Press
50's x 12
50's x 12 (+4 partial reps)

Incline Dumbbell Press
50's x 11
50's x11 (drop set)
30's x 10 (drop set)
30's x 7

Dumbbell Press
35's x10
35's x10
35's x 6

Tricep Pulldown (rope)
110 x 15
120 x 12
120 x 12

Upright Rows
27.5's x 15
27.5's x 15
27.5's x 10

Cardio - 20 minutes
Stretching

thoughts Good workout, energy levels seem to be improving throughout the day and overall endurance is increasing. Strength is steady. Did not notice anything interesting in regards to dreams but I also drank last night.
Also question to Neoginix why is chasteberry included in this formula, I? read that it reduces prolactin levels but I only saw this in regards to women, are the applicable studies available for men?

[-SDR-]

[b]
Also question to Neoginix why is chasteberry included in this formula, I? read that it reduces prolactin levels but I only saw this in regards to women, are the applicable studies available for men?

In developing this product we tried to approach every applicable angle for optimizing endogenous hormone levels; and this is just another angle to that approach. Whether it is a significant component or not will depend on the hormonal state of the user, but if excess prolactin exists this should help mediate it.

Male Study:

NLM CIT. ID: 97173439
TITLE: The effects of a special Agnus castus extract (BP1095E1) on prolactin
secretion in healthy male subjects.
AUTHORS: Merz PG; Gorkow C; Schrodter A; Rietbrock S
Sieder C; Loew D; Dericks-Tan JS; Taubert HD
AUTHOR AFFILIATION:
Department for Clinical Pharmacology, Frankfurt University Clinic,
Neumarkt, Germany.
ABSTRACT:
The effects of three doses of a special Agnus castus extract
(BP1095E1)--extracts from 120 mg, 240 mg and 480 mg of drug per
day--were examined within the framework of a placebo-controlled
clinical study of tolerance and prolactin secretion in 20 healthy
male subjects during a period of 14 days. There was good tolerance
during the study as regards the following: adverse effects, the
effects on blood pressure and heart rate, blood count, Quick's test,
clinical chemistry as well as testosterone, FSH and LH values. During
each study phase the 24-hour prolactin secretion profile was measured
from the penultimate to the final day, and the amount of prolactin
release was monitored an hour after TRH stimulation on the last day.
A significant increase in the 24-hour profile was registered with the
lowest dose in comparison to placebo, the opposite being the case
with the higher doses, i.e. a slight reduction. In contrast to the
administration of placebo, the 1-hour AUC after TRH stimulation
resulted in a significant increase with the lowest dose and a
significant reduction with the highest dose. The results suggest
effects of the special Agnus castus extract which are dependent on
the dose administered and the initial level of prolactin
concentration.
NLM PUBMED CIT. ID: 9021345
SOURCE: Exp Clin Endocrinol Diabetes 1996;104(6):447-53

[leonidas300]

In developing this product we tried to approach every applicable angle for optimizing endogenous hormone levels; and this is just another angle to that approach. Whether it is a significant component or not will depend on the hormonal state of the user, but if excess prolactin exists this should help mediate it.

Male Study:

NLM CIT. ID: 97173439
TITLE: The effects of a special Agnus castus extract (BP1095E1) on prolactin
secretion in healthy male subjects.
AUTHORS: Merz PG; Gorkow C; Schrodter A; Rietbrock S
Sieder C; Loew D; Dericks-Tan JS; Taubert HD
AUTHOR AFFILIATION:
Department for Clinical Pharmacology, Frankfurt University Clinic,
Neumarkt, Germany.
ABSTRACT:
The effects of three doses of a special Agnus castus extract
(BP1095E1)--extracts from 120 mg, 240 mg and 480 mg of drug per
day--were examined within the framework of a placebo-controlled
clinical study of tolerance and prolactin secretion in 20 healthy
male subjects during a period of 14 days. There was good tolerance
during the study as regards the following: adverse effects, the
effects on blood pressure and heart rate, blood count, Quick's test,
clinical chemistry as well as testosterone, FSH and LH values. During
each study phase the 24-hour prolactin secretion profile was measured
from the penultimate to the final day, and the amount of prolactin
release was monitored an hour after TRH stimulation on the last day.
A significant increase in the 24-hour profile was registered with the
lowest dose in comparison to placebo, the opposite being the case
with the higher doses, i.e. a slight reduction. In contrast to the
administration of placebo, the 1-hour AUC after TRH stimulation
resulted in a significant increase with the lowest dose and a
significant reduction with the highest dose. The results suggest
effects of the special Agnus castus extract which are dependent on
the dose administered and the initial level of prolactin
concentration.
NLM PUBMED CIT. ID: 9021345
SOURCE: Exp Clin Endocrinol Diabetes 1996;104(6):447-53

Thanks for the quick response, this is a stand up company.

[leonidas300]

Went Water skiing. Off day.

[leonidas300]

Was a scheduled workout day but I felt terrible all day, came home from work and went to sleep.

[leonidas300]

Sumo Deadlifts
135 x 10 for 2 sets (Warm Up)
185 x 12
195 x 12
205 x 12

Squat Machine
220 x 12
220 x 12
220 x 12

Leg Curls
110 x 11
110 x 10

Standing Calf Raises
200 x 17
200 x 13
200 x 12

Bicep Curls
35's x 12
35's x 12

Concentration Curls
50 x 15
60 x 10
60 x 10

Cardio - 20 minutes, run at 5.5 mph.

Thoughts Trying to recover from yesterday's illness. Not quite sure what it was but I felt terrible yesterday and was still slightly under the weather today, just felt tired and foggy all day. I felt very lethargic at the beginning of my workout and thought about just going home but I stuck it out and by the end of my workout I felt pretty good again. I do look like I am leaning out a bit, but I can not comment on any other effects as I have not been at 100% the past couple of days. I am expecting this to really kick in over the next couple of weeks.

[leonidas300]

Back Rep Range
Pull Ups
16
12
9

Cable Rows
145 x 12
145 x 12
145 x 12

Barbell rows
100 x 12
100 x 12
100 x 12

HyperExtensions
18
18

Wide Grip Pulldowns
135 x 14
135 x 11
135 x 11

Overhead tricep Extensions
80 x 12
80 x 12

Tricep Kickbacks
25's x 15
25's x 15

Cardio - 20 minutes interval runs. 7mph 2minutes, 1 minute walk 4mph.

Thoughts Strength is back and I felt 100% in the gym today. I actually breezed through my workout taking very little rest in between sets and finished about 15 minutes earlier than normal. Libido is still normal but DOMS is nonexistent at this point. My body is recovering between workouts faster than normal. My joints are starting to ache a bit though and my elbows were sore after the triceps exercises. Still appear to be leaning out a bit.

[-SDR-]

Glad to hear you are feeling better :) Im surprised your not sore from skiing, im dead for days after I go on the water for only a few hrs.

[leonidas300]

Just want to give a quick update, my recovery is pretty spectacular on this, I am experiencing zero DOMS from my last few workouts and I have been pushing myself in the gym.

[Big_Tom(tk)]

Just want to give a quick update, my recovery is pretty spectacular on this, I am experiencing zero DOMS from my last few workouts and I have been pushing myself in the gym.

It's kinda crazy.. Another thing I have noticed is the pains in my shoulder and elbow have gone away.

[leonidas300]

It's kinda crazy.. Another thing I have noticed is the pains in my shoulder and elbow have gone away.

Probably the Cissus.

[leonidas300]

Legs POWER

Box Squats
3 warm up sets
235 x 10 ( I was not expecting to get 10 reps, I was expecting this to be my 6 rep weight :D)
255 x 8 (Well still did more than 6 so lets add some more weight)
265 x 6 (There it is, a new 6 rep max weight)
265 x 6

Sumo Squats (wide stance I am 6'3 so it is a really wide stance)
196 x 6
195 x 6
195 x 6 (these hurt)

Lunges
Bodyweight x 20 x 3 sets (just do these for balance and to strengthen my knees.

Shrugs
85's x 6
85's x 6
85's x 6

Upright Rows
45's x 9
45's x 6
45's x 6

Standing calf Raises
135 x 20 toes in
135 x 20 toes out
135 x 20 toes straight ahead.

Varied Cardio - box jumps, jump rope, pushups, situps.

Thoughts Excellent workout, strength was great for my entire workout and all my lifts went up. Really good intensity and focus today. I think this thing is kicking in. Judging by the results I am having I think this product needs to be run for 8 weeks and results would be very good. Also, the glucose clearing agent is very effective, I have to eat a substantial amount of food after taking this product or else I feel very lethargic and light headed.

[leonidas300]

Quick update, legs are sore today but not as much as I expected. Slightly tired.

[LJ57]

Everything is looking great! I can't wait to get started and I'm especially looking forward to a reduction in DOMS and strength increases.

[leonidas300]

Everything is looking great! I can't wait to get started and I'm especially looking forward to a reduction in DOMS and strength increases.

I really believe that if this product were to be run for 8 weeks the strength increases would be impressive.

[leonidas300]

Power Chest
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
75's x 8
75's x 8
75's x 6

Bench Press
205 x 7
205 x 7
205 x 7

Cable Cross Overs
200 x 9
200 x 9
200 x 9
Drop Set
100 x 15

Push ups
25
25
25

Abs

Thoughts Had a short workout as the gym closed early tonight. Another good workout, energy was good and endurance was great, I hated to leave the gym early tonight. Recovery is impressive.

[leonidas300]

Off day, went shopping, bought 4 new chairs for the kitchen table (oouucchhh these were expensive) and now going to a bbq at a friends resturant. Nothing beats free food. Chest is not sore at all and DOMS is dissipating rapidly in my legs.

[leonidas300]

Deadlifts
135 x 15
135 x 15
275 x 6
285 x 6
290 x 6 (personal record) then drop set
205 x 9 9drop)
135 x 14

Hammer High Rows
275 x 6
275 x 6
275 x 6

Hammer Low Rows
225 x 6
225 x 6
225 x 6

Barbell Rows
155 x 7
165 x 6
175 x 5 (personal record)

Thoughts good workout and strength was great. I have been experiencing a bit of lethargy during the daytime though. I have not seen an increase of acne or other indications of increased test but recovery time between workouts continues to be very good.

[leonidas300]

Well it is almost like clockwork, last week I felt terrible on Monday and today was no different. I was not sick but just completely exhausted to the point that I could not even get out of bed until 3:00. I finally mustered the energy to go do some light cardio work which made me feel much better. just jogged for about 30 minutes.

[SHOWTIME]

I really believe that if this product were to be run for 8 weeks the strength increases would be impressive.

I agree, Im enjoying this alot!

Have you tried One Legged Leg Press, 5-6 told me about them and they are killer i went from 10plates 2 legged leg press to 140lbs one legged its a rough exercise

Great log BTW

[leonidas300]

I agree, Im enjoying this alot!

Have you tried One Legged Leg Press, 5-6 told me about them and they are killer i went from 10plates 2 legged leg press to 140lbs one legged its a rough exercise

Great log BTW

I actually read about them in your log and have been considering adding them in, they appear to be much more effective than regular leg presses. Thanks for the heads up.

[leonidas300]

Dumbbell Bench Press
85's x 7
85's x 5
85's x 5

Incline Dumbbell BP
75's x 9 (PR)
75's x 9
75's x 6

Decline Hammer
275 x 7
275 x 8
275 x 7

Shoulder Press
50's x 9
55's x 6 (PR)

upright rows
50's x 8
55'x x 6

Dips
15
10

Rope Tricep Pulldowns
130 x 9
130 x 9
130 x 9

Side Lateral Raises
30's x 6
30's x 5

Thoughts Excellent workout, strength was on the rise and I hit several new PR's in my weights. Again recovery between workouts has been the most noticeable contribution of this product but strength is starting to take off as well. Joints are slightly achy but tolerable.

[SHOWTIME]

Awesome 2 PR's keep it up!
I noticed a large increase in strength almost everylift has gone up since taking SUPREMACY. I hope you get similar effects

[Big_Tom(tk)]

Congrats in the PR's!! I am also noticing similar benefits from Supremacy.

[leonidas300]

Legs Power

Box Squats
3 warm up sets of 135 x 15
275 x 6
285 x 6
290 x 6 (personal record)
325 x 2
335 x 1

Sumo Deadlifts
205 x 8
215 x 6
255 x 3 (I was going to do more reps but I felt a pull in my hamstrings from the very first set and just could not build up the mental motivation to risk a muscle pull so I just backed off of these)

Lunges
BW x 26
BW x 26
BW x 26 (I just use these to finish my legs and build up greater stability in my knee, not really doing these for muscle, more as a preventative)

Seated Calf Raises
90 x 20
90 x 20
90 x 15

Dumbbell Hammer Curls
60's x 12
60's x 12

Incline Curls
40's x 7
40's x 7

EZ Curl Bar
90 x 8
90 x 8

Thoughts My strength was there but mentally I just could not get focused until the latter half of my workout, I think I had too much caffeine preworkout as I just felt a little too alert, to the point that I could not focus on anything. Joints felt good today and this afternoon I had one of the best naps of my life, just have not had a nap that restful since I was a kid. My GF complimented me on looking leaner today, so as a suprise she had pizza waiting for me when I returned from the gym, she is determined to sabotage me.

[Big_Tom(tk)]

Legs Power

Box Squats
3 warm up sets of 135 x 15
275 x 6
285 x 6
290 x 6 (personal record)
325 x 2
335 x 1

Sumo Deadlifts
205 x 8
215 x 6
255 x 3 (I was going to do more reps but I felt a pull in my hamstrings from the very first set and just could not build up the mental motivation to risk a muscle pull so I just backed off of these)

Lunges
BW x 26
BW x 26
BW x 26 (I just use these to finish my legs and build up greater stability in my knee, not really doing these for muscle, more as a preventative)

Seated Calf Raises
90 x 20
90 x 20
90 x 15

Dumbbell Hammer Curls
60's x 12
60's x 12

Incline Curls
40's x 7
40's x 7

EZ Curl Bar
90 x 8
90 x 8

Thoughts My strength was there but mentally I just could not get focused until the latter half of my workout, I think I had too much caffeine preworkout as I just felt a little too alert, to the point that I could not focus on anything. Joints felt good today and this afternoon I had one of the best naps of my life, just have not had a nap that restful since I was a kid. My GF complimented me on looking leaner today, so as a suprise she had pizza waiting for me when I returned from the gym, she is determined to sabotage me.

Damn Women. ;) Gotta Love em though, right? LoL

Great WO man!

[leonidas300]

Damn Women. ;) Gotta Love em though, right? LoL

Great WO man!

Her problem is she can eat whatever she wants, all day long and stay very lean and muscular, her whole family is in phenomenal shape. I would kill to have a body like her brother (no homo or incest) and he does not even workout, as in never.

[leonidas300]

Today I am not doing a damn thing, I am whooped. going to be a lazy bum and lay around the house watch me some cable. I had to TIVO Lil Bush last night so I am going to watch it tonight.

[leonidas300]

Update.
Doms in my legs are pretty bad and my hips are aching. I guess I might have over done it the other night.
Also, i had mentioned that I was exeriencing some lethargy while taking this and a litle birdie told me to up my carbs, well that did the trick and alleviated the fatigue I was experiencing. Thanks.

[leonidas300]

Power Back
Pull Ups
17 (PR)
12
10

V Handle Pulldowns
196 x 6
210 x 6
225 x 5

High Rows
285 x 6
290 x 5 (+15)

Low Rows
235 x 6
240 x 6
245 x 6 (+20)

Wide Grip Pulldowns
180 x 8
180 x 7
135 x 20

Seated Calf Raises
90 x 22
90 x 20
90 x 17

Thoughts Strength keeps going up but boy my body is aching this week, all my joints hurt. I need to stretch more and sit in a hot tub for about a month. Also, as my post have demonstrated aggression is increasing as I have tried to start fights with half the forum this week. I have always been confrontational but this is getting out of hand :D

[leonidas300]

Deadlifts
135 x 20
155 x 17
165 x 14
175 x 13
(Every joint in my body was aching so I decided to back off the heavy (well heavy for me anyway) weights and just go high reps today with short (60 second) rest intervals

1 Legged Leg Press (I hate you)
These are incredibly difficult and I could only use
70 x 20 (10 reps each leg then switch)
70 x 20
70 x 20

Shrugs
180 x 13
180 x 13
180 x 13

Calf Raises (on leg press machine, tried to mimic a jumping motion)
140 x 20
140 x 20
140 x 20

Cardio - 20 minutes

Stretching

Thoughts my entire body has been killing me the past couple of days so I went light and had a good workout. I am experiencing some acne (I still get from time to time but it has increased the past couple of days) but no noticeable increase in libido as of yet. Looking good so far.

[SHOWTIME]

Yeah One Legged LP...Feels good doesn't it...lol

[leonidas300]

Yeah One Legged LP...Feels good doesn't it...lol

I hate you now, I felt like such a pussy doing them. the guy next to me loads fill s the machine with plates, and I am using 70lbs. felt like such a noob.

[SHOWTIME]

I hate you now, I felt like such a pussy doing them. the guy next to me loads fill s the machine with plates, and I am using 70lbs. felt like such a noob.

lol..totally I know the second time I did them this 18 y/o goes to the LP machine right infront of mine and has like 10-12 plates for 2 legged on it and I grunting and sweating out 1 and a half plates...

Ofcourse thats when some chicks will walk by like when Im stretching so it looks like Im useing 1.5 plates for 2 legged leg press... but d@mn it works good. You will find that your strength will really increase in this exercise it will jump considerably even by the time of your next workout

Your legs will adapt very quickly and the weight will raise fast!!!
1st workout 100lbsx8
2nd 140x10
Today 230lbsx5

[leonidas300]

lol..totally I know the second time I did them this 18 y/o goes to the LP machine right infront of mine and has like 10-12 plates for 2 legged on it and I grunting and sweating out 1 and a half plates...

Ofcourse thats when some chicks will walk by like when Im stretching so it looks like Im useing 1.5 plates for 2 legged leg press... but d@mn it works good. You will find that your strength will really increase in this exercise it will jump considerably even by the time of your next workout

Your legs will adapt very quickly and the weight will raise fast!!!
1st workout 100lbsx8
2nd 140x10
Today 230lbsx5

I talked to a guy who works out at my gym frequently, all natural, 45 years old, built like a truck, strong as an ox, competes in decathalons (almost homo but still no homo), what his thoughts were about the one legged leg press.
He told me to use them sparingly in my routine, he said it puts excess stress ont he hips and kness regardless of how you alter foot position. He said that they work great, but can tear you up quick. He suggested a better approach would be to use two legs pushing the weight up and then use a single leg to do the negative work. He said you get more muscle building effect with less stress on your joints. Just a thought.

[SHOWTIME]

I talked to a guy who works out at my gym frequently, all natural, 45 years old, built like a truck, strong as an ox, competes in decathalons (almost homo but still no homo), what his thoughts were about the one legged leg press.
He told me to use them sparingly in my routine, he said it puts excess stress ont he hips and kness regardless of how you alter foot position. He said that they work great, but can tear you up quick. He suggested a better approach would be to use two legs pushing the weight up and then use a single leg to do the negative work. He said you get more muscle building effect with less stress on your joints. Just a thought.


That sounds pretty killer too! My plan is to cycle 2 legged and 1 legged. Although the way suggested there sounds pretty intense. I am all about not extremely stressing out my joints, sometimes you have to but not repeatedly. Im in the military and I get enough stress on my knees and back already!

BTW awesome job on your pullups 17<--- nice I have got that many chins but never that many pullups Great work!

[leonidas300]

That sounds pretty killer too! My plan is to cycle 2 legged and 1 legged. Although the way suggested there sounds pretty intense. I am all about not extremely stressing out my joints, sometimes you have to but not repeatedly. Im in the military and I get enough stress on my knees and back already!

BTW awesome job on your pullups 17<--- nice I have got that many chins but never that many pullups Great work!

Thanks, I am gunning for 25 so we will see what happens.
This is also my last day on Supremacy ): I will post yesterday's later on tonight and pics and measurements are coming soon.

[Big_Tom(tk)]

Thanks, I am gunning for 25 so we will see what happens.
This is also my last day on Supremacy ): I will post yesterday's later on tonight and pics and measurements are coming soon.

I will be done at the end of this week. :( Excited to see your results and read the finaL review!!

[leonidas300]

Well I finished my bottle, here is my last workout on Supremacy.
Bench Press
205 x 8
215 x 6
220 x 6 (drop set)
135 x 10

Incline Dumbbells Bench
80's x 5
80's x 5 (drop set)
45's x 8

Push Press
135 x 7 (PR)

Hammer Decline Bench
275 x 9
295 x 6
225 x 6

Upright Rows
55's x 7
55's x 6

Rope Tricep Pulldowns
140 x 10
150 x 8
150 x 8

Dips
15
12

ThoughtsAnother good workout with good overall strength, muscular endurance seemed increased as well. I will post my final thoughts, measurements, and with luck pictures, later on this evening.

[SHOWTIME]

Well I finished my bottle, here is my last workout on Supremacy.
Bench Press
205 x 8
215 x 6
220 x 6 (drop set)
135 x 10

Incline Dumbbells Bench
80's x 5
80's x 5 (drop set)
45's x 8

Push Press
135 x 7 (PR)

Hammer Decline Bench
275 x 9
295 x 6
225 x 6

Upright Rows
55's x 7
55's x 6

Rope Tricep Pulldowns
140 x 10
150 x 8
150 x 8

Dips
15
12

ThoughtsAnother good workout with good overall strength, muscular endurance seemed increased as well. I will post my final thoughts, measurements, and with luck pictures, later on this evening.

Great workout I am very interested in your final review I think I have 3 days left in my bottle

[user98511001541]

Also, as my post have demonstrated aggression is increasing as I have tried to start fights with half the forum this week. I have always been confrontational but this is getting out of hand :D


lol i noticed this! I never saw an increase in agression when i did supremacy tho, and i did it for 2 months.... I guess i'm just laidback (no stoner)




1 Legged Leg Press (I hate you)

lol TOO FUNNY


Great workout I am very interested in your final review I think I have 3 days left in my bottle

I cant believe i got here on the last day.... Eh i feel like a newb. Looks like you made some solid progress, too bad you arent logging it for another month!

[Apostle X]

last workout? When will get to see the before and after pics and a final review? I want to see how well it worked for ya

[XCriticalBenchX]

Well I finished my bottle, here is my last workout on Supremacy.
Bench Press
205 x 8
215 x 6
220 x 6 (drop set)
135 x 10

Incline Dumbbells Bench
80's x 5
80's x 5 (drop set)
45's x 8

Push Press
135 x 7 (PR)

Hammer Decline Bench
275 x 9
295 x 6
225 x 6

Upright Rows
55's x 7
55's x 6

Rope Tricep Pulldowns
140 x 10
150 x 8
150 x 8

Dips
15
12

ThoughtsAnother good workout with good overall strength, muscular endurance seemed increased as well. I will post my final thoughts, measurements, and with luck pictures, later on this evening.


I just wanted to say, u had one hell of a log going on! I cant wait to see your final review!

Mike

[LJ57]

I just wanted to say, u had one hell of a log going on! I cant wait to see your final review!

Mike

I agree! I don't follow too many logs these days but this one has been particularly interesting to me. I love to see the detailed logs that include such things like the amount of weight used. You can really learn alot from logs like this one.

[leonidas300]

thanks for all of the positive comments. Final review with pics and measurements should be up tonight.

[user98511001541]

any update?

[user178944]

any update?

X2 subd to see your results when you post!

[-SDR-]

x3, lets see it ;)

[XCriticalBenchX]

thanks for all of the positive comments. Final review with pics and measurements should be up tonight.

Were all waiting very PATIENTLY:D

Mike

[user178944]

Were all waiting very PATIENTLY:D

Mike

X2~!!

[user98511001541]

lawl its been like 2 weeks

[user178944]

Are you not gonna post?

Neogenix reps, can you please post some links to other similar logs

[Big_Tom(tk)]

Are you not gonna post?

Neogenix reps, can you please post some links to other similar logs

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2924371

there's mine if ya wanna check it out.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2812031&highlight=sapper

there's sappers too.

[leonidas300]

Sorry guys, after a couple of days this just kindof slipped my mind, shoot me a pm, I have ADD like a sonabitch, if it is not right in front of me I tend to forget.

Final Thoughts - Well having a little time of is actually a better method to evaluate a product anyway so you have something to compare it too. I am not going to give number rankings becaue it is kind of pointless.

The Good
Strength - Gains were excellent, all my lifts went up almost every single workout starting at aobut the two week point and just kept going up during my run with this. This is by far this products strongest attribute, my strength improvements were great.

Recovery - During my workouts my recovery was excellent, I had great energy once I was in the gym for all of my sets. REcovery post workout was good as well, DOMS just evaporated on this even though all my lifts were going up and my workouts were pretty intense.

The Bad
Joints - Towards the end of this journal all of my joints were absolutely killing me, this is probably a results of lowered estrogen levels combined with the increased stress on my joints due to the higher lifts. There would be times I would lay in bed at night feeling terrible, a couple of times I could not sleep I was aching so bad. I have not taken aspirin or ibuprofen in years and had to use them both several times towards the end of this log.

Price - For a guy my size I think I probably should have upped the dosage a bit and the gains don't really come for about two weeks. For this product to be really effective in terms of strenght and size gains I speculate that it need to be run for at least 6-8 weeks and that is over $100.00. I just don't think 4 weeks is long enough for a hormonally based product to really work its magic and at over $50.00 for a month supply I think the price is a little high.

Lethargy - If adequate carbs are not consumed with this you will be dead tired. For low carbers I would probably stay away from this. Seeing as I love carbs this was not anyproblem for me, actually any excuse to eat more carbs is great by me. :D

The Ugly
Acne on my shoulders
Agression - Some people may like this aspect, others might not, but I definitely noticed a difference in my attitude on this and I don't know it was for the better. IT was great for the gym, but for my day to day life it kind of sucked


Measurements
Start:
* Weight: 225 lbs.
* BiCeps: 16.25"
* Calves: 16"
* Thighs: 23.55"
* Waist: 36"
*Bodyfat: 18.5%

END
Weight - 225
Bodyfat - 18% (down .5)
Waist - 35 and 3/4
Thigh - 23 inches
Biceps - 16.25 inches flexed
Calves - 16 inches
Chest - 43 inches unflexed

Well my measurements did not change much, but I was leaning out and look more solid. I think this is a solid formulation but it just needs to be run longer to really achieve its effectivness. Size gains follow strength gains, but the body needs time to catch up and at 4 weeks the strength gains were not enough to create corresponding size changes. Also, my strength has taken quite a dip since I have come off this produt which kind of demonstrates how those gains were not cemeted. This product has a lot of potential if stacked properly (Trinity Stack, but I would run it more like the NHA stack for about 6 weeks rather than 4 weeks) I think for what it is designed for, this product demonstrated that it is indeed effective, but it needs to be run longer and I believe very good changes would occur in a person's physique. Also, a person should probably add extra Cissus to aid in joint repair while running this. The amount included was not sufficient to offset the joint pain.

Thanks to all for following along, I swear pictures will be up tonight, they are on the camera I just need to load them on the computer.

[Big_Tom(tk)]

Sorry guys, after a couple of days this just kindof slipped my mind, shoot me a pm, I have ADD like a sonabitch, if it is not right in front of me I tend to forget.

Final Thoughts - Well having a little time of is actually a better method to evaluate a product anyway so you have something to compare it too. I am not going to give number rankings becaue it is kind of pointless.

The Good
Strength - Gains were excellent, all my lifts went up almost every single workout starting at aobut the two week point and just kept going up during my run with this. This is by far this products strongest attribute, my strength improvements were great.

Recovery - During my workouts my recovery was excellent, I had great energy once I was in the gym for all of my sets. REcovery post workout was good as well, DOMS just evaporated on this even though all my lifts were going up and my workouts were pretty intense.

The Bad
Joints - Towards the end of this journal all of my joints were absolutely killing me, this is probably a results of lowered estrogen levels combined with the increased stress on my joints due to the higher lifts. There would be times I would lay in bed at night feeling terrible, a couple of times I could not sleep I was aching so bad. I have not taken aspirin or ibuprofen in years and had to use them both several times towards the end of this log.

Price - For a guy my size I think I probably should have upped the dosage a bit and the gains don't really come for about two weeks. For this product to be really effective in terms of strenght and size gains I speculate that it need to be run for at least 6-8 weeks and that is over $100.00. I just don't think 4 weeks is long enough for a hormonally based product to really work its magic and at over $50.00 for a month supply I think the price is a little high.

Lethargy - If adequate carbs are not consumed with this you will be dead tired. For low carbers I would probably stay away from this. Seeing as I love carbs this was not anyproblem for me, actually any excuse to eat more carbs is great by me. :D

The Ugly
Acne on my shoulders
Agression - Some people may like this aspect, others might not, but I definitely noticed a difference in my attitude on this and I don't know it was for the better. IT was great for the gym, but for my day to day life it kind of sucked


Measurements
Start:
* Weight: 225 lbs.
* BiCeps: 16.25"
* Calves: 16"
* Thighs: 23.55"
* Waist: 36"
*Bodyfat: 18.5%

END
Weight - 225
Bodyfat - 18% (down .5)
Waist - 35 and 3/4
Thigh - 23 inches
Biceps - 16.25 inches flexed
Calves - 16 inches
Chest - 43 inches unflexed

Well my measurements did not change much, but I was leaning out and look more solid. I think this is a solid formulation but it just needs to be run longer to really achieve its effectivness. Size gains follow strength gains, but the body needs time to catch up and at 4 weeks the strength gains were not enough to create corresponding size changes. Also, my strength has taken quite a dip since I have come off this produt which kind of demonstrates how those gains were not cemeted. This product has a lot of potential if stacked properly (Trinity Stack, but I would run it more like the NHA stack for about 6 weeks rather than 4 weeks) I think for what it is designed for, this product demonstrated that it is indeed effective, but it needs to be run longer and I believe very good changes would occur in a person's physique. Also, a person should probably add extra Cissus to aid in joint repair while running this. The amount included was not sufficient to offset the joint pain.

Thanks to all for following along, I swear pictures will be up tonight, they are on the camera I just need to load them on the computer.


Absolutely EXCELLENT review!! I have to agree with you on most points.
The only difference for me was the joint pain. All my pains actually went away during the use of supremacy. Now that I have been off of it for a little while the pains in my elbow have actually returned. :( Great review/log the man!!

[leonidas300]

Thanks for following, sorry about the delay, I am a jerk.

[leonidas300]

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[XCriticalBenchX]

Bout time:D Nice work and good log.. you impressed me!

Mike

[leonidas300]

Bout time:D Nice work and good log.. you impressed me!

Mike

thanks big guy, now only if I could get as strong as you I might make some real progress.

[leonidas300]

Well Neogenix kept asking for my final review and now he is not here, watch out I may organize a boycott ;) :D

[-SDR-]

Well Neogenix kept asking for my final review and now he is not here, watch out I may organize a boycott ;) :D

Sorry for the delay ;) Yes Leo, the log look great! How are you feeling now post use?

[lionelxxl]

Hey leo, just saw this. Mighty impressed with the log and review! Good job!