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NoNameNecessary
05-13-2007, 09:28 PM
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LipoRedux: The World's First Mood Stimulating Fat Burner

Are you still struggling to lose those extra 7-8 pounds of fat? Need a product that not only burns fat but also elevates mood? Do you have a hard time keeping caloric intake in check? Still searching for the magic bullet that gives the proverbial energy boost, without the crash afterwards?

Don't despair. Enter the world of LipoRedux- the world?s first mood stimulating fat burner. We've all been there before, having reached our dieting set point- where those extra 7-10 lbs of stubborn fat just don?t seem to come off anymore- no matter what we try. Well, Liporedux was specifically formulated to provide you with the key ingredients to make weight loss come with ease. Finally, LipoRedux will blast right through your dieting set point and continue to torch every last ounce of body fat in its path.

LipoRedux is the culmination of two years of painstaking research in the field of obesity and is supported by a host of research studies that warrant its use as a safe and effective weight loss aid. Let's meet the 4 sensational phases that comprise LipoRedux?s fat burning actions, which will help you get that lean, chiseled look you deserve.

NoNameNecessary
05-13-2007, 09:30 PM
Phase 1 (Enhance Mood While Dieting! The Seemingly Impossible Is Now Possible)

PEA (Phenethylamine) and Hordenine comprise the compounds contained in phase 1. PEA, also better known as the love inducing chemical, was specifically paired with Hordenine to increase Dopamine levels while keeping MAO (mono amine oxidase) in check. PEA is found throughout nature, primarily in plants and animals. It is the metabolic end product of phenylalanine conversion- a substance known to occur naturally in protein. One of its most popularized occurrences has been as a major component of chocolate, and as such established itself as the love-sickness chemical.Those falling out of love often become compulsive chocolate eaters, trying to replenish and repair the body's loss of this compound. Phenethylamine is intrinsically classified as a metabolism stimulant, although it doesn't appear to stay around long (by itself) enough to express this property. In other words, it is rapidly metabolized in the human body. It is only when PEA is combined with Hordenine that PEA's pharmacological activity becomes apparent. Hordenine is a selective MAO inhibitor and thus the rate limiting catalyst for the uptake of PEA through the intestinal lumen. Now with PEA being able to enter the bloodstream it can quickly stimulate the neurotransmitter, Dopamine, which in turn gives us the good feeling we experience while taking LipoRedux.

Phase 2

Norfenefrine (At last, The Only Legitimate Ephedra Alternative Has Arrived)
Norfenefrine is considered a sympatomimetic amine that is documented to stimulate the (alpha-1) adrenoreceptors in the body. Adrenoreceptors are best known for their ability to stimulate adrenaline and thus cause a resultant fight-and-flight response. The (alpha -1) adrenoreceptor is documented to affect lipolysis (fat burning) via the elevation of lipids, primarily glycerol into cells- especially in the obese. This notion was supported in a paper published by the prestigious Obesity Research Journal back in 2004. The leading authors stated: In obese subjects with insulin resistance, the alpha1-adrenergic receptor may provide an important alternative pathway for glucose uptake. Thus, the activity of the sympathetic nervous system was involved in glucose uptake of the abdominal subcutaneous adipose tissue in obesity. In particular, in obese subjects with insulin resistance, glucose disposal mediated by alpha-1-adrenoceptors may have important effects on whole-body glucose metabolism because of the very large volume of adipose tissue present.

Norfenefrine is also postulated to induce fat loss via the transport of lipids (triglycerides) out of the fat cell so that they are burned off in circulation. When exercising, fats are known to be a valuable fuel resource, and their liberation into the bloodstream markedly increases their usability. To understand the significance of this, a quick look into the chemistry of a triglyceride might be in order. Triglycerides (TG, triacylglycerols, and neutral fats) are considered storage fats. They are esters of glycerol and three fatty acids (FA). The take home message is that one can measure the lipolytic (fat burning) effects of a substance by measuring extra cellular fluid levels of glycerol, a soluble byproduct of fat catabolism (breakdown). Further, the researchers added: Investigation of the effects of (alpha-1) adrenoreceptor agents on adipose tissue lipolysis is warranted to determine their possible role as therapeutic agents in obese subjects with the metabolic syndrome.? In other words, the alpha-1 adrenoreceptor mechanism appears to be a new and exciting discovery in the battle against fat loss. To recap, Norfenefrine unfolds its powers through the stimulation of the alpha-1 adrenoreceptor, which in turn stimulates the release of glucose into the blood stream as well as through the increased breakdown of fatty acids.


Phase 3

Ultra Pure Green Tea (Fat Burning Amplification, Let Me Count the Ways)

Green tea has many mechanisms of action in stimulating weight loss. The most important one is probably the inhibition of catechol-O-methyl-transferase (COMT). As such, COMT becomes the rate limiting catalyst in the destruction of Norepinephrine and its inhibition liberates more NE available to stimulate HSL (Hormone Sensitive Lipase) for the uncoupling of fat cells. More on this later.

Although the cathetin EGCG is the most responsible, some flavanoids found in small amounts in green tea such as quercetin and myricetin also inhibit COMT and thus may play a benign role. Secondly, green tea decreases the digestibility of dietary fat. The proposed mechanism in the literature is the inhibition of both gastric and pancreatic enzymes, which was demonstrated in the test tube. These enzymes both play major and minor roles in the digestion of fat. When they are inhibited a smaller proportion of fat is absorbed and a greater proportion excreted in the stool. Green tea is also a potent appetite suppressant. This can be partly explained by the fact that it increases both norepinephrine and dopamine. Specifically, tea polyphenols have been known to elevate levels of cholecystokinin (CCK), a hormone, which depresses food intake. It is not yet known whether this plays a significant role in the action of green tea. One of the effects of elevated CCK is an increase in pancreatic lipase, which is actually inhibited by green tea. It could be that green tea simultaneously elevates CCK and decreases pancreatic lipase, combining the benefits of both appetite suppression and of decreased fat digestibility.

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NoNameNecessary
05-13-2007, 09:31 PM
Phase 4

3,5-Diidothyronine (3,5-T2 - Meet The Metabolic Thermostat Switch)

Before jumping right into a discussion of the use of 3,5-T2 for fat loss, a little review of thyroid function and physiology is in order. The thyroid gland secretes two hormones of interest to us, thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3). T3 is considered the physiologically active hormone, and T4 is converted into T3 by the action of the enzyme deiodinase. The bulk of the body's T3 (about 80%) comes from this conversion. The secretion of T4 is under the control of Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH) which is produced by the pituitary gland. TSH secretion is in turn controlled through release of Thyrotropin Releasing Hormone (TRH) which is produced in the hypothalamus. In addition to T3, it has recently been recognized that there exist two additional active metabolites of T3: 3,5 and 3,3 Diiodothyronines, which we will collectively call 3,3-T2 & 3,5-T2. Studies have shown that 3,5-T2 may be more effective in raising resting metabolic rate (RMR) when hypothyroid (individuals that do not produce an adequate supply) subjects are treated with T3, than when euthyroid (normal) subjects are given T3. Therefore, in normal subjects 3,5-T2 may be the principal active metabolite of T3. There have been a number of studies that have shown that during starvation (dieting), or when carbohydrate intake is reduced to approximately 25 to 50 grams per day (such as on ketogenic diets), levels of deiodinase decline, hindering the conversion of T4 to the active T3 and its metabolites 3,5-T2 and 3,3-T2. Now with less thyroid hormone in circulation the body is programmed to lower caloric expenditure. From an evolutionary standpoint this makes sense: during periods of starving the body, to maintain equilibrium, the body likes to reduce its basal metabolic rate to preserve fat and especially muscle stores.

With that review of thyroid function, let's consider just how it is that 3,5-T2 exerts its fat burning effects. 3,5-T2 has long been recognized as a major regulator of the oxidative metabolism of energy producing substrates (food or stored substrates like fat, muscle, and glycogen) by the mitochondria. The mitochondria are often called the "cell's powerhouses" because this is where foodstuffs are turned into useful energy in the form of ATP (Energy). 3,5-T2 is documented to increase the flux of nutrients into the mitochondria as well as the rate at which they are oxidized, by increasing the activities of the enzymes involved in the oxidative metabolic pathway. The subsequent increase rate of oxidation is reflected by an increase in oxygen consumption by the body. Further, a host of research suggests that 3,5-T2 has the ability to uncouple oxidation of substrates from ATP production. 3,5-T2 is believed to increase the production of so called uncoupling proteins. Uncoupling protein (UCP) is a transporter family that is present in the mitochondrial inner membrane, and as its name suggests, it uncouples respiration from ATP synthesis by dissipating the inner membrane proton gradient as heat. Instead of useful ATP being produced from energy substrates, heat is generated. To make up for the deficit in ATP production (as well as provide fuel for the extra ATP production discussed above) more fat is forced to be burned for fuel, resulting in fat loss. Okay, let?s recap what we just learned. Liporedux is formulated with 4 specific phases each for the purpose of attacking fat loss from every possible angle:

Phase 1: Liporedux contains PEA and Hordenine to elevate mood and more importantly to inhibit appetite to prevent overeating. The most important factor in any diet regimen is to keep caloric intake at bay. With LipoRedux, you?ll control your appetite effortlessly.

Phase 2: Liporedux contains Norfenefrine a sympatomimetic amine that stimulates the release of glucose as well as the transport of lipids (triglycerides) out of the fat cell so that they are burned off in circulation.

Phase 3: Liporedux contains Ultra Pure Green Tea (UPGT) extract which is specifically standardized for the cathetin ?EGCG? so that COMT is inhibited to increase plasma levels of Norepinephrine and Dopamine. UPGT is also documented to elevate CCK for appetite suppression and to decrease fat digestibility and absorption.

Phase 4: Liporedux contains 3,5-T2 for its ability to increase resting metabolism (RMR). Further, 3,5-T2 increases the production of uncoupling proteins (UCP) and thus bumps up the burn off rate of fat into heat.

References Cited:

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3.) J Nutr Biochem. 2000 Jan;11(1):45-51.
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7.) Obes Res. 2004 Apr;12(4):612-20
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9.) Life Sci. 1998;62(26):2369-77.
10.) Journal of Endocrinology, Vol 136, Issue 1, 59-64

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NoNameNecessary
05-13-2007, 09:37 PM
Age: 17, 18 in July

Sex: Male

Height: 6'0''

Weight: 211

Bodytype: Endomorph/Mesomorph

Training experience (as much detail as possible.. TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF ! ! WHY should we choose you ! !): I have been training seriously for over four years. However, due to many reasons and excuses I have made, my training and diet has majorly slacked for a few months. Through putting an end to some old habits and starting some new things, one of the being enrollment in college, it is time to get back on the right track.

Current Training Schedule / Protocol (as much detail as possible): I will be using Eric Broser's training program Power Rep Range Shock, or P/RR/S. More information on P/RR/S, as explained by Mr. Broser himself, can be found here (http://thermolife.com/forum/showthread.php?t=598).

Cardio Schedule/Protocol (as much detail as possible): HIIT 2-3 times per week
Basketball games on Sunday

Current supplements (exact brand/product name): NOW ADAM
SciVation Xtend
ErgoPharm GF-Pro
AEN IntraXCell
Optimum Fish Oil
SciVation Sesamin
PrimaForce Glutamine

Current Diet and macros (as much detail as possible): SciVation Cut Diet

Current Daily water intake: 1 Gallon+

Short Term Goal: Recomposition
Increase Lifts To Past Highs

Long Term Goal: Compete
Fitness Model
Earn A Degree in Business Management

ANY and ALL Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs: None

Supplement history (as much detail as possible): I have used many supplements, mostly various brands of protein and creatine.

rvman
05-14-2007, 06:37 AM
Good to see ya finally....

*Subscribed*

Birthday in July? mines on the 26th...granted a little bit older than you

The best of luck!

NoNameNecessary
05-14-2007, 11:33 AM
Good to see ya finally....

*Subscribed*

Birthday in July? mines on the 26th...granted a little bit older than you

The best of luck!

29th for me.

I will be updating later on this evening.

NoNameNecessary
05-14-2007, 08:25 PM
Monday, May 14, 2007

I will be out of town for the next two days and will not be able to train or diet the way I would have liked to. As a result, I will not begin supplementing with LipoRedux until Thursday.

NoNameNecessary
05-15-2007, 08:28 PM
Tuesday, May 15, 2007

No exciting news for today. I will be returning home (and to the kitchen) tomorrow afternoon. I will begin to prepare my meals for the following day. I will post a quick outline of my goals with this log, how I plan on assessing the efficacy of LipoRedux, my diet, and training.

TinyMan
05-15-2007, 09:02 PM
How long have you done P/RR/S training? I've seen that program, and know a few people who have followed it. It seems to be a solid program, albeit an advanced one - I have not tried it myself though.

garret
05-17-2007, 03:37 PM
Nice start so far. Looking forward to see this log progress.

cakedonkey
05-18-2007, 01:13 PM
Not sure how I missed all of these logs.

Anyhow:

I like your setup so far. Interested to see what you'll get out of the first serving (since given the profile, there are absolutely compounds that be able to "see"/"feel" working from the 1st dose). Until next update...

NoNameNecessary
05-20-2007, 06:18 PM
How long have you done P/RR/S training? I've seen that program, and know a few people who have followed it. It seems to be a solid program, albeit an advanced one - I have not tried it myself though.

I have never used it before. As a result, I have decided not to use it so as to not compromise the integrity of the log and any feedback on LipoRedux.


Nice start so far. Looking forward to see this log progress.

Thank you.


Not sure how I missed all of these logs.

Anyhow:

I like your setup so far. Interested to see what you'll get out of the first serving (since given the profile, there are absolutely compounds that be able to "see"/"feel" working from the 1st dose). Until next update...

I will be giving my first "official" post in regards to LipoRedux sometime tomorrow afternoon.

I will be taking my first dose tomorrow morning before cardio, as things haven't turned out as planned.

TinyMan
05-20-2007, 06:26 PM
Good idea with the P/RR/S - it's hard to discern what is supplement and what is from the new training. Other than that, will you follow a program of your own making, or a different premade one?

NoNameNecessary
05-21-2007, 08:00 PM
Good idea with the P/RR/S - it's hard to discern what is supplement and what is from the new training. Other than that, will you follow a program of your own making, or a different premade one?

I will follow a program of my own making that I have experimented with (and enjoyed) previously. This will allow me to better judge the LipoRedux. I have really enjoyed it thus far.

I did some early morning cardio. I intended on doing legs this morning. However, some unexpected renovations were being made on the gym floor. I did thirty minutes of interval training on the treadmill with a five minute warm up and a five minute cool down, both at 3.5 MPH. I alternated between 5.0, 6.5, and 7.5 MPH settings in two minute cycles burning a total of 320 calories.

The most noted effect of LipoRedux thus far is its thermogenic properties. I have been sweating far more than normal and left the gym drenched. Cardio, which I typically dread, was great for me and I look forward to my leg workout tomorrow.

I have been working on an outline of my diet and training routine. Both should be finalized and posted tomorrow.

NoNameNecessary
05-24-2007, 02:30 PM
I just took 3 LipoRedux - I will be at the gym in about ten or fifteen minutes. I will post some feedback when I return.

NoNameNecessary
06-06-2007, 08:45 PM
I haven't updated as much as I would have liked to. I have been very, very busy lately with finals, graduation, and preparing for college. As a result, I haven't had much time to post on these boards, much less keep an updated log. I have, however, continued to diet and workout and have been seeing great results. I have lost 15+ pounds and every one of my major lifts has stayed the same or increased. Obviously, this can be attributed to my diet but also, LipoRedux has had a great impact. It has improved my mood and gotten me ready for the gym at times when I certainly didn't feel like going. The thermogenic effect cannot be described - I leave the gym drenched, as if I stepped into the shower with my clothes on. This product is great. I will certainly be buying another bottle when I am finished with this one.

I should have more time to update, as I am finished with finals. I apologize to those who were following and to SAN/Starmark Labs for not updating more often.

TinyMan
06-06-2007, 09:34 PM
What college are you planning to go to NNN (have a major yet)?

NoNameNecessary
06-06-2007, 09:45 PM
What college are you planning to go to NNN (have a major yet)?

Rowan University. It is in NJ, about fifteen minutes outside of Philadelphia. I am going in undeclared though I do have a few ideas in mind, all of which are business related.


Entrepreneur magazine and The Princeton Review have ranked Rowan University?s entrepreneurial undergraduate program 17th in the nation out of 250 colleges and universities across the U.S.

The rankings, released in Entrepreneur?s October 2006 edition, place Rowan?s undergraduate entrepreneurship program ahead of such institutions as the University of Alabama (20), the University of Notre Dame (21), and the University of Iowa (25).

TinyMan
06-06-2007, 09:48 PM
Rowan University. It is in NJ, about fifteen minutes outside of Philadelphia. I am going in undeclared though I do have a few ideas in mind, all of which are business related.

Interesting :) I've never heard of it, but good luck with it - business/business related majors are very versatile and powerful, if you take them seriously. Unfortunately, the major itself has gotten a negative stereotype as the 'default' major here (probably there too), due to students who just do it because they have nothing else to do.

NoNameNecessary
06-06-2007, 09:52 PM
Interesting :) I've never heard of it, but good luck with it - business/business related majors are very versatile and powerful, if you take them seriously. Unfortunately, the major itself has gotten a negative stereotype as the 'default' major here (probably there too), due to students who just do it because they have nothing else to do.

Thank you.

Rowan is a rather small university though it is gaining in size, popularity, and recognition. They are currently in the process of adding some multi-million dollar facilities. You can find more about Rowan, if interested, at it's website (rowan.edu).

Yes, it has and it is, for obvious reasons, understandable. I, however, do not plan on taking it lightly and am not going into business 'just because'.

NoNameNecessary
06-07-2007, 09:49 AM
I just finished thirty minutes of cardio on the Precor Elliptical. I burned around 350+ calories. It was another intense session. I had a bit of trouble getting up for it, as I was up late last night but LipoRedux really assisted in getting me aleart and ready to go.

My diet may be off a bit tonight, as tonight is graduation night. I will be having a small party at my house before and then going out to dinner afterwards. Depending on what time I get out of there, I may go to some friends' houses.

TinyMan
06-07-2007, 09:54 AM
Live it up, you only graduate from high school once :D

NoNameNecessary
06-07-2007, 10:03 AM
Live it up, you only graduate from high school once :D

I certainly plan on it.

TinyMan
06-07-2007, 10:58 AM
And I want stories :D if you can beat my Mimosa Sunday story (I'll tell it to you sometime), then it's pretty impressive.

NoNameNecessary
06-07-2007, 08:31 PM
And I want stories :D if you can beat my Mimosa Sunday story (I'll tell it to you sometime), then it's pretty impressive.

Stories will be given. Just got back from graduation and dinner with the family. Getting ready to head back out. Good night all.

NoNameNecessary
06-11-2007, 09:48 PM
I just got back from the gym. Tonight I did Chest/Triceps with 20 minutes of light running (~4.5 MPH) post-workout. The workout was a breeze and I felt great, even though it was late and I had worked all day. LipoRedux has only gotten better and better as I am nearing the end of the bottle. I have continued to notice the benefits that it promises, such as improved mood, a mild thermogenic effect, and enhanced energy (very clean and smooth, no ups and downs).

I have also lost around 15 pounds - I weighed myself on an empty stomach and I weighed in at 196.3. My diet had been fairly clean until recently, as my graduation was last week. I cheated a large amount Thursday, Friday, and through the weekend. However, I feel LipoRedux did a great job in limiting any weight gain and prevented me from holding any additional water like I usually do after a cheat. My diet was back on today.

That is all for today's update. In terms of what is planned for the gym tomorrow, I will judge by how I feel. It will either be cardio or back/biceps.

TinyMan
06-11-2007, 09:50 PM
I just got back from the gym. Tonight I did Chest/Triceps with 20 minutes of light running (~4.5 MPH) post-workout. The workout was a breeze and I felt great, even though it was late and I had worked all day. LipoRedux has only gotten better and better as I am nearing the end of the bottle. I have continued to notice the benefits that it promises, such as improved mood, a mild thermogenic effect, and enhanced energy (very clean and smooth, no ups and downs).

I have also lost around 15 pounds - I weighed myself on an empty stomach and I weighed in at 196.3. My diet had been fairly clean until recently, as my graduation was last week. I cheated a large amount Thursday, Friday, and through the weekend. However, I feel LipoRedux did a great job in limiting any weight gain and prevented me from holding any additional water like I usually do after a cheat. My diet was back on today.

That is all for today's update. In terms of what is planned for the gym tomorrow, I will judge by how I feel. It will either be cardio or back/biceps.

That must have been quite a party :D

NoNameNecessary
06-11-2007, 09:51 PM
That must have been quite a party :D

That it was. As promised, I have stories for you.

NoNameNecessary
06-13-2007, 04:05 PM
I did 40 minutes on the treadmill yesterday with a five minute warmup and a five minute cooldown. The other thirty minutes was done in cycles. Each cycle was two minutes and I cycled between speeds of 5.0, 6.5, and 7.5 MPH. It was an intense session of cardio though it feels easier and easier everytime. I absolutely hate cardio but it is much easier with LipoRedux.

Today was back/biceps. Nothing new or exciting to report today. I am still sweating like an absolute maniac and have continued to drop weight. I only have a few days of LipoRedux left. I am looking forward to seeing the final results.

AtownKing187
06-13-2007, 08:02 PM
subb'd..and i look forward to ur next log also!

NoNameNecessary
06-13-2007, 10:09 PM
subb'd..and i look forward to ur next log also!

Good to hear...thanks for stopping by. :)

ProWrestleFan
06-13-2007, 10:17 PM
Good log man. I enjoyed the Lipo Redux, ended up losing 9 pounds total. Now I am trying to gain it back, lol.

And you are right, Cardio was much easier with the Lipo Redux. I didn't even think to think that, lol.

Good job man!

NoNameNecessary
06-13-2007, 10:30 PM
Good log man. I enjoyed the Lipo Redux, ended up losing 9 pounds total. Now I am trying to gain it back, lol.

And you are right, Cardio was much easier with the Lipo Redux. I didn't even think to think that, lol.

Good job man!

lol

I will be doing the same thing. LipoRedux has beengreat - I only have a few days left. I will let my g/f try some out tomorrow to see how someone, other than myself, responds to it.

NoNameNecessary
06-14-2007, 09:21 PM
I will be updating in a few minutes.

I am going to hop on the X-Box Live with a buddy real quick and then I'll be back to update.

TinyMan
06-14-2007, 09:34 PM
lol

I will be doing the same thing. LipoRedux has beengreat - I only have a few days left. I will let my g/f try some out tomorrow to see how someone, other than myself, responds to it.

Let us know what she thinks - with one serving she won't really get the full effects of it, but some of the initial impressions of taking LR :)

NoNameNecessary
06-14-2007, 11:23 PM
Let us know what she thinks - with one serving she won't really get the full effects of it, but some of the initial impressions of taking LR :)

Agreed. LR really starts to shine after you've been taking it for a while. However, I notice some of the benefits after the first dose.

AtownKing187
06-14-2007, 11:34 PM
I will be updating in a few minutes.

I am going to hop on the X-Box Live with a buddy real quick and then I'll be back to update.

update man?

NoNameNecessary
06-14-2007, 11:41 PM
I did cardio tonight - forty-five minutes of cardio on the elliptical with the Spurs-Cavs game on. I can't report how many calories or the distance I did because the elliptical was, apparently, very messed up. It said that I burned over 1,000 calories in forty-five minutes which is definitely incorrect. The distance also seemed quite a bit off.

LipoRedux continues to amaze me. I felt sluggish and tired all day; I didn't get much quality sleep last night. However, the cardio was great. It seems as though LipoRedux really improves your mood and gives the boost needed to perform well in the gym.

I gave my girlfriend two LipoRedux thirty minutes before the gym. She was a bit worn down from class and the two hours of driving to and from it.

Girlfriend's Thoughts and Experiences:

While tonight was her first and only dose, for now, she responded well to LR. She has taken a few other products of mine, such as Basic Cuts, that she responded to. She said she had a clean energy that helped her push through her workout and she noticed a slight (~5) increase in weights which can likely be attributed to LR. On my next order, I will be picking up two bottles of LR: one for me and one for my gf. She really enjoyed it.