Bob's Fitness Journal [Archive] - Page 3

ChocoChick

11-28-2007, 08:32 PM

I just perked up after looking at that avatar! I just bought the vitamin C two days ago. A little late. Do you take it everyday or just when you feel something coming on? I take a multi everyday. I also read about hormone imbalances lowering resistance to sickness. Maybe the endo will find something.

I take 500mg a day when I'm well and ~ 1g/day when I feel something coming on. Your body can't store vitamin C so you need to take it am and pm. Further, because you can't store it, you can't really take "too much." Linus Pauling recommended doses of 4g/day, I think. In any case, you'll know if you've taken too much because it will give you the runs. I've never taken enough for that to happen but that's the worst that can happen (and it will stop as soon as you back off).

Feel better soon!

How did your daughter hurt her shoulder? It makes mine hurt just to read about it!

Bob45

11-29-2007, 05:14 AM

I take 500mg a day when I'm well and ~ 1g/day when I feel something coming on. Your body can't store vitamin C so you need to take it am and pm. Further, because you can't store it, you can't really take "too much." Linus Pauling recommended doses of 4g/day, I think. In any case, you'll know if you've taken too much because it will give you the runs. I've never taken enough for that to happen but that's the worst that can happen (and it will stop as soon as you back off).

Feel better soon!

How did your daughter hurt her shoulder? It makes mine hurt just to read about it!

Thanks for the Vitamin C info. The Ortho told us it is fairly common for young teens to have loose shoulder joints. The therapist said the same thing. All she was doing when it popped out was watching TV on her stomach. When she went to get up it popped out and stayed out for 20 minutes. She only weighs 96 so it wasn't a lot of weight against it. She is now going to be doing several shoulder exercises to strengthen it. We got one of those stretch bands. I think I will try it too.

orca

11-29-2007, 05:30 AM

Good info on the vitamin C. Sorry to hear about your daughters shoulder. That sounds very painful. Hope she recovers quickly.

Hot Rose

11-29-2007, 01:31 PM

Oh my goodness Bob sorry your daughter had to go through that, poor little one.

glad to hear you are taking a multi I have them, just forget to take mine.
make sure yours don't have Iron.

CC is right about the C if you take a lot it gives you the runs in fact once in a while I will do a Vitamin C flush that is taking a C every hour until you get the runs , weird I know but it cleans you out.

PS I probably already said this but Garlic isn't just for scarring away vampires or husbands. I load up on it when I don't feel good.

Hope you get better soon

Bob45

11-29-2007, 04:23 PM

Good info on the vitamin C. Sorry to hear about your daughters shoulder. That sounds very painful. Hope she recovers quickly.

Thanks Kevin.

Hot Rose Oh my goodness Bob sorry your daughter had to go through that, poor little one.

glad to hear you are taking a multi I have them, just forget to take mine.
make sure yours don't have Iron.

CC is right about the C if you take a lot it gives you the runs in fact once in a while I will do a Vitamin C flush that is taking a C every hour until you get the runs , weird I know but it cleans you out.

PS I probably already said this but Garlic isn't just for scarring away vampires or husbands. I load up on it when I don't feel good.

Hope you get better soon

Thanks Rose. Why no iron? Don't they all have it? I'll pass on the garlic. I don't care for any type of spices. I am feeling a little better. I'll be fine to workout next week or over the weekend I think.

IronIc

11-29-2007, 04:27 PM

Alot of good information from Elise and Rose.

Hi Bob!

alkell

11-30-2007, 12:43 PM

Hi Bob, I have been having a fair bit of trouble with illness this year. Normally I would rarely get sick, but I think a combination of weight training draining the immune system and my daughter starting school this year and is bringing home more bugs is contributing to me being sick more often.
I started taking L-Glutamine about a month ago and managed to miss the last bug that went through my family, I don't know if this is just coincidence or not.

Cheers Al

giantfan43

11-30-2007, 12:54 PM

Hi Bob - I was suffering from a cold since Thanksgiving .. finally got over it .. it never really got too bad. I find that with head colds, I can continue my workouts but when I have a chest cold (bad cough), I'm done ! Glad your feeling better !

Bob45

11-30-2007, 01:36 PM

Alot of good information from Elise and Rose.

Hi Bob!

Hi Penney. How's Keto treating you?

alkell Hi Bob, I have been having a fair bit of trouble with illness this year. Normally I would rarely get sick, but I think a combination of weight training draining the immune system and my daughter starting school this year and is bringing home more bugs is contributing to me being sick more often.
I started taking L-Glutamine about a month ago and managed to miss the last bug that went through my family, I don't know if this is just coincidence or not.

Cheers Al

Hi Al, I just had a cold a couple months ago. I am around a lot of sickness all the time too.

giantfan43 Hi Bob - I was suffering from a cold since Thanksgiving .. finally got over it .. it never really got too bad. I find that with head colds, I can continue my workouts but when I have a chest cold (bad cough), I'm done ! Glad your feeling better !

Just a regular cold doesn't bother me Dom. I get them like the Flu. I am super weak for a couple days then the cold actually breaks out. I think I'll take off until Monday unless I do a small basement workout. I get all feverish feeling just doing a little here and there.

jspirate

11-30-2007, 04:15 PM

I'm sick once again. What a pain. My resisitance seems low. There goes the strength gains I made. I'd like to get past the point I always get to someday. I'll keep trying.

Hang in there Bob. Good things are coming yoru way!

IronIc

11-30-2007, 07:30 PM

Hi Penney. How's Keto treating you?
Aside from the constant brain farting, really well! :p ;)

You get better soon Bob!

dartol

12-01-2007, 05:15 AM

Just a regular cold doesn't bother me Dom. I get them like the Flu. I am super weak for a couple days then the cold actually breaks out. I think I'll take off until Monday unless I do a small basement workout. I get all feverish feeling just doing a little here and there.

Hi Bob, sorry to hear you are sick. Sometimes overtraining can lead to sickness because it compromises your recovery system. Maybe you'll be better with a few days rest. Hope you feel better soon!

Darren

Bob45

12-01-2007, 05:52 AM

Hang in there Bob. Good things are coming your way!

Hey JS. I'm waiting for those things. I still picture them all the time.

IronIc Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob45
Hi Penney. How's Keto treating you?

Aside from the constant brain farting, really well!

You get better soon Bob!

Are those similar to senior moments? I seem to get those with plenty of carbs.

dartol Quote:
Hi Bob, sorry to hear you are sick. Sometimes overtraining can lead to sickness because it compromises your recovery system. Maybe you'll be better with a few days rest. Hope you feel better soon!

Darren

I just posted on a thread someone brought up from last year about working out sick. I was sick then too. I should keep track. Maybe a sick journal?

dartol

12-01-2007, 05:57 AM

I just posted on a thread someone brought up from last year about working out sick. I was sick then too. I should keep track. Maybe a sick journal?

Bob's Sickness Journal really doesn't have the same ring to it though... LOL

Darren

Bob45

12-01-2007, 06:05 AM

Bob's Sickness Journal really doesn't have the same ring to it though... LOL

Darren

Yeah, Blew my nose 50 times, used the nasal spray every 4 hours, took Ibruprofen for my fever and headache. Watched TV but my eyes were burning.

dartol

12-01-2007, 06:58 AM

Yeah, Blew my nose 50 times, used the nasal spray every 4 hours, took Ibruprofen for my fever and headache. Watched TV but my eyes were burning.

Oh man, that'snot' cool... (sorry, can't resist a good pun)

Darren

Tifflex

12-01-2007, 08:09 AM

I hope you feel better Bob.

IronIc

12-01-2007, 08:11 AM

Bob's Sickness Journal really doesn't have the same ring to it though... LOL

Darren
LOL! No sickness journals allowed! :p

Bob45

12-01-2007, 11:07 AM

Oh man, that'snot' cool... (sorry, can't resist a good pun)

Darren

As long as we like our own jokes we'll be okay.

thinton I hope you feel better Bob.

Thanks Tiffany.

flywheel99

12-01-2007, 03:42 PM

hope you're feeling better bob.

Bob45

12-03-2007, 05:11 AM

hope you're feeling better bob.

Thanks, not quite yet. This is a bad one.

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 2654
Fat: 88 788 30%
Carbs: 333 1274 48%
Protein: 144 576 22%

I'm starting to get bad habits eating again. I'll try to get my foods on fitday for a while to get back on track. I did it yesteday for the heck of it to see where I am at. The calories weren't real high but the macros were bad.

I copied Elise's guidelines she posted in another thread. I like those and will try to get closer to those. The only question I have on those is figured from a bodyweight point instead of LBM point. I weigh 220 instead of 190 now. My LBM hasn't changed much. I guess it is still around 150 - 155#'s. At 220 I would need 330 grams of protein which seems high.

jspirate

12-03-2007, 05:15 AM

Thanks, not quite yet. This is a bad one.

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 2654
Fat: 88 788 30%
Carbs: 333 1274 48%
Protein: 144 576 22%

I'm starting to get bad habits eating again. I'll try to get my foods on fitday for a while to get back on track. I did it yesteday for the heck of it to see where I am at. The calories weren't real high but the macros were bad.

I copied Elise's guidelines she posted in another thread. I like those and will try to get closer to those. The only question I have on those is figured from a bodyweight point instead of LBM point. I weigh 220 instead of 190 now. My LBM hasn't changed much. I guess it is still around 150 - 155#'s. At 220 I would need 330 grams of protein which seems high.

Wow Bob. The crud sure seems to be hanging on to ya.

I am not a nutritional expert, but I would lean (no pun intented) towards using the LBM for determining your protein targets. Now that I say that I am sure Elise will be in here to correct me :)

Bob45

12-03-2007, 05:45 AM

Wow Bob. The crud sure seems to be hanging on to ya.

I am not a nutritional expert, but I would lean (no pun intented) towards using the LBM for determining your protein targets. Now that I say that I am sure Elise will be in here to correct me :)

It really is hanging on. I don't eat great but not real bad for the amount I am hanging on to. I'll really focus on diet to get back to where I need to be. The problem is I like variety. I hate eating the exact same thing everyday. That makes it even harder to get the macros where they need to be.

Even my breakfast which seems healthy and good needs working on. I had a 1/2 cup oatmeal (before cooking), 1/3 cup cottage cheese, 1/4 cup milk, and 10 walnuts. This is too high in fat, not enough protein. It was too much milk anyway. I'll add some egg whites and reduce the milk. The walnuts give it some taste but make the fat high. I'll take this one meal at a time and try to get things where they should be. I don't know about veges in the am. I don't think that will be happening.

jspirate

12-03-2007, 06:27 AM

It really is hanging on. I don't eat great but not real bad for the amount I am hanging on to. I'll really focus on diet to get back to where I need to be. The problem is I like variety. I hate eating the exact same thing everyday. That makes it even harder to get the macros where they need to be.

Even my breakfast which seems healthy and good needs working on. I had a 1/2 cup oatmeal (before cooking), 1/3 cup cottage cheese, 1/4 cup milk, and 10 walnuts. This is too high in fat, not enough protein. It was too much milk anyway. I'll add some egg whites and reduce the milk. The walnuts give it some taste but make the fat high. I'll take this one meal at a time and try to get things where they should be. I don't know about veges in the am. I don't think that will be happening.

I have the same problem... I know I am eating correctly when I lose all desire to eat. Thats for the birds...

Bob45

12-03-2007, 12:51 PM

Bob45

12-03-2007, 03:11 PM

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total

Total: 2102
Fat: 74 665 32%
Carbs: 162 583 28%
Protein: 201 803 39%

Today's meals

8:15am
1/2 cup oatmeal (before cooking)
1/3 cup cottage cheese
1/4 cup milk
10 walnuts.

11:15am
4 oz. chicken breast
2 slices sourdough bread
tbspn mayo
cup green beans

2:30
4 oz. chicken breast
1tbspn mayo
1 large apple
1 oz. beef jerky(homemade)

5:30
4oz. lean pork roast
cup mixed veges
1/2 cup black, kidney, white bean mix

7:00 workout tonight

8:30
2 scoops whey, water, 2 tblspns dextrose

9:30
1 egg
2 whites
tspn pb

jspirate

12-03-2007, 03:20 PM

It's going to be hard to keep the fat real low. I eat extra lean beef, buffalo, cottage cheese. They still have a lot of fat. The NF cottage cheese doesn't taste half as good but maybe I'll have to do that again. Skim milk bothers me. I would have to use lactaid but it gets expensive buying everything special for me. Our food bill is already over a thousand a month. There are 6 of us here and several friends eating too.

I have a hard time with milk. It some good stuff and if I could get away with it I would drink a gallon a day :eek:

Hot Rose

12-03-2007, 04:59 PM

Thanks Rose. Why no iron? Don't they all have it? I'll pass on the garlic. I don't care for any type of spices. I am feeling a little better. I'll be fine to workout next week or over the weekend I think.

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you Bob

Here is some info on why I don't have my hubby take iron and I only take Iron on those ladie days :) Oh and yes you can buy multis with out

Who should be cautious about with iron supplements?
Iron deficiency is uncommon among adult men and postmenopausal women. These individuals should only take iron supplements when prescribed by their qualified health care provider because of the risk of iron overload. Iron overload is a condition in which excess iron is found in the blood and stored in organs such as the liver and heart. Iron overload is associated with several genetic diseases including hemochromatosis, which affects approximately 1 in 250 individuals of northern European descent(45). Individuals with hemochromatosis absorb iron very efficiently, which can result in a build up of excess iron in organs and can cause organ damage such as cirrhosis of the liver and heart failure(1,3,46-48). This condition often is not diagnosed until the excess iron stores have damaged an organ. Iron supplementation may accelerate the effects of hemochromatosis, an important reason why adult men and postmenopausal women who are not iron deficient should not take iron supplements. Individuals with blood disorders who require frequent blood transfusions are also at risk of iron overload and should not take iron supplements.

Bob45

12-03-2007, 07:19 PM

Thanks for the info Rose. I wonder how much too much is? It's only got 18mg in it.

I worked out in my basement for a change tonight. I wasn't sure how I'd feel so I didn't drive to the gym. It went okay.

BB bench
120 x 10 x 2
135 x 10
157 x 5
168 x 5
179 x 5
203 x 10

seated BB military press
67 x 10
89 x 5
100 x 5
115 x 5
126.5 x 5

deadlifts
135 x 5
179 x 5
203 x 5
245 x 5
267 x 5

Getsum

12-03-2007, 08:11 PM

Hi Bob. Just looking over your journal man, awesome workouts and diet man! It's so nice to be able to workout at home, choices are good. Keep going strong! :)

scienceteacher

12-04-2007, 04:35 AM

Morning Bob. I wish I had a nutritionsist. I just get lazy sometimes with my diet.

Samraiwise

12-04-2007, 04:49 AM

Bob, thank you for a nice advice back there, I appreciate!! Tis my honor to call you my friend. http://www.angelfire.com/nb/kazuo/img/sm_hi.gif

BP 225 x 8 was great and also yesterday(?)'s BP and DL!!

I've just read about story of 45s to the bar on the floor at the gym, it's a LOL(I mean I perfectly understand). It must be nice to have a cool dungeon gym at home, I envy you! *wink*

I have also found that we have more than a few things in common concerning our w/o, focusing on compounds, 30-40 mins duration, frequency, and so on.........if I am allowed to say. Want to check from time to time to steal ideas from you. *grin*

Don't even try, you can't stop ninja. http://www.angelfire.com/nb/kazuo/img/sm_ninja02.gif

BTW, I'll never call you "sir" again,　sir!! *poof*

ChocoChick

12-04-2007, 05:24 AM

It's going to be hard to keep the fat real low. I eat extra lean beef, buffalo, cottage cheese. They still have a lot of fat. The NF cottage cheese doesn't taste half as good but maybe I'll have to do that again. Skim milk bothers me. I would have to use lactaid but it gets expensive buying everything special for me. Our food bill is already over a thousand a month. There are 6 of us here and several friends eating too.

Why are you going low fat? I would not do this, especially if you think you have hormone-related probelms. Stick with at least .3g/fat per pound of bodyweight, and feel free to go higher than that. Just keep the fats healthy.

Bob45

12-04-2007, 05:27 AM

Hi Bob. Just looking over your journal man, awesome workouts and diet man! It's so nice to be able to workout at home, choices are good. Keep going strong! :)

Thanks for stopping in again. I like new workout buddies. Make sure I keep writing in my meals. That's the only way to get everything close to where you want to be. It's easy to get of track when you don't.

scienceteacher Morning Bob. I wish I had a nutritionsist. I just get lazy sometimes with my diet.

I need one too. I never was good at the diet part. It's probably the most important part too.

Samraiwise Bob, thank you for a nice advice back there, I appreciate!! Tis my honor to call you my friend.

BP 225 x 8 was great and also yesterday(?)'s BP and DL!!

I've just read about story of 45s to the bar on the floor at the gym, it's a LOL(I mean I perfectly understand). It must be nice to have a cool dungeon gym at home, I envy you! *wink*

I have also found that we have more than a few things in common concerning our w/o, focusing on compounds, 30-40 mins duration, frequency, and so on.........if I am allowed to say. Want to check from time to time to steal ideas from you. *grin*

Don't even try, you can't stop ninja.

BTW, I'll never call you "sir" again,　sir!! *poof*

You sound like a great guy! Thanks for reading along here. I hope the tips do help. I gave my neighbor tips and he passed me quickly. I won't tell him anything else, lol. I am going to work hard on my diet now. I usually give it a few weeks very strict then slack. There are a lot of holidays coming up so I won't expect much progress yet. I can't pass up a good party.

Bob45

12-04-2007, 05:31 AM

Why are you going low fat? I would not do this, especially if you think you have hormone-related probelms. Stick with at least .3g/fat per pound of bodyweight, and feel free to go higher than that. Just keep the fats healthy.

By low I mean 30 - 35%. Even that is hard for me. The fat adds up quick. Please keep an eye on my diet. I need a lot of help with it.

ChocoChick

12-04-2007, 05:33 AM

By low I mean 30 - 35%. Even that is hard for me. The fat adds up quick. Please keep an eye on my diet. I need a lot of help with it.

That range is fine. I've done 40p/35f/25c with good results.

orca

12-04-2007, 05:35 AM

Morning Bob. The diet yesterday looked great and homemade jerky too.

Nice workout too.

Bob45

12-04-2007, 05:36 AM

That range is fine. I've done 40p/35f/25c with good results.

Great thanks! You sure did have good results. Now I can have my almonds, walnuts, regular cottage cheese, lean red meats....what a treat!

ChocoChick

12-04-2007, 05:40 AM

Great thanks! You sure did have good results. Now I can have my almonds, walnuts, regular cottage cheese, lean red meats....what a treat!

Bob, I eat loads of nuts and use extra virgin olive oil on everything. I have never found that these items affect my body composition negatively. My cottage cheese is 2% (I eat it rarely) and so is my Greek Yogurt. I don't wat red meat at all, so I can't speak to that. At one points, I was having salmon (wild caught) daily, which is also high in fat. I put ground flax in my mornng shake every day (another fat). My diet is definitely NOT low fat. Fat is essential to hormone regulation and, especially as we age, going low fat is not at all helpful. What I would avoid is a lot of saturated fat. I like the mono-unsaturated fats best (polyunsaturated are a mixed bag).

Bob45

12-04-2007, 05:50 AM

Bob, I eat loads of nuts and use extra virgin olive oil on everything. I have never found that these items affect my body composition negatively. My cottage cheese is 2% (I eat it rarely) and so is my Greek Yogurt. I don't wat red meat at all, so I can't speak to that. At one points, I was having salmon (wild caught) daily, which is also high in fat. I put ground flax in my mornng shake every day (another fat). My diet is definitely NOT low fat. Fat is essential to hormone regulation and, especially as we age, going low fat is not at all helpful. What I would avoid is a lot of saturated fat. I like the mono-unsaturated fats best (polyunsaturated are a mixed bag).

I've been eating buffalo a lot. My wife gets lean ground beef quite a bit for meatballs so I have that too. Your right that if I just watch the bad fats and probably the processed stuff I should be fine. A lot of diets I read on here I could never do long term. What I am eating now I could. Adding crap to it is usually my problem. Writing it down should help that.

ChocoChick

12-04-2007, 05:57 AM

I've been eating buffalo a lot. My wife gets lean ground beef quite a bit for meatballs so I have that too. Your right that if I just watch the bad fats and probably the processed stuff I should be fine. A lot of diets I read on here I could never do long term. What I am eating now I could. Adding crap to it is usually my problem. Writing it down should help that.

A lot of the diets I see on here are neither effective nor healthy, imo. You have to find a lifestyle change that you can not only make in the short term but live with in the long term. ;)

Bob45

12-04-2007, 09:15 AM

I got a new camera that also shoots video. Here's my home gym video clip. More to come.

http://media.putfile.com/Homegym

ChocoChick

12-04-2007, 09:18 AM

Is that a computer with a floppy drive? :eek:

Nice gym. Where are you???

Bob45

12-04-2007, 09:22 AM

Is that a computer with a floppy drive? :eek:

Nice gym. Where are you???

That is my basement we use for storage. I just made enough room for the weights. That is an old *** comouter. When I used to workout down there regularly I would put my lift numbers on that thing. There is so much junk down there. I have a lot of my parents stuff too from cleaning out their house. It's time for another 20 yard dumpster.

jspirate

12-04-2007, 09:32 AM

I got a new camera that also shoots video. Here's my home gym video clip. More to come.

http://media.putfile.com/Homegym

Excellent! I really like seeing stuff like this. Its nice to see what others are using. It looks like you have just about everything you need. Including a computer with a floppy drive :)

Bob45

12-04-2007, 09:36 AM

Excellent! I really like seeing stuff like this. Its nice to see what others are using. It looks like you have just about everything you need. Including a computer with a floppy drive :)

All I need is people. I like having people around.

IronIc

12-04-2007, 10:05 AM

Nice gym Bob! :)

I have a love/hate relationship with working at the commercial gym. I hate having to fight for machines/dumbells/barbells/ect, but I love being around other people :)

Still, that's an enviable bunch of equipment you have down in the basement! :)

Bob45

12-04-2007, 12:17 PM

Morning Bob. The diet yesterday looked great and homemade jerky too.

Nice workout too.

Missed this one. The dehydrater is going to be great for getting more protein in. The jerky tastes great.

IronIc Nice gym Bob!

I have a love/hate relationship with working at the commercial gym. I hate having to fight for machines/dumbells/barbells/ect, but I love being around other people

Still, that's an enviable bunch of equipment you have down in the basement!

I wish I had one of those arc trainers for cardio. I don't like the treadmill. That bike in the video doesn't work too good.

Hibiscus09

12-04-2007, 12:30 PM

I like your home gym, Bob! The music was nice also and it's great to see you in the mirror. You're such a cutie!! :)

Bob45

12-04-2007, 12:35 PM

I like your home gym, Bob! The music was nice also and it's great to see you in the mirror. You're such a cutie!! :)

Yeah right, I'm getting old quick. Thanks though. Did you see how heavy I got too? I knew you when I weighed 177 too.

Hibiscus09

12-04-2007, 12:38 PM

Yeah right, I'm getting old quick. Thanks though. Did you see how heavy I got too? I knew you when I weighed 177 too.

Actually, I was thinking about how you say negative things about yourself and I always think you look very handsome. Silly boy.

Bob45

12-04-2007, 12:42 PM

Actually, I was thinking about how you say negative things about yourself and I always think you look very handsome. Silly boy.

Thanks, I've always done that. It's a good way for me to try and improve things.

Hibiscus09

12-04-2007, 12:51 PM

Thanks, I've always done that. It's a good way for me to try and improve things.

As long as you actually know deep down that you are a hottie, it's fine. :D

givenr

12-04-2007, 02:34 PM

I got a new camera that also shoots video. Here's my home gym video clip. More to come.

http://media.putfile.com/HomegymI was waiting for Rocky's trainer "Mick" to come around the corner :D

That's a sweet lifting cage you have Bob.

Bob45

12-04-2007, 03:16 PM

As long as you actually know deep down that you are a hottie, it's fine. :D

As long as you keep telling me I'll be fine.

I was waiting for Rocky's trainer "Mick" to come around the corner

That's a sweet lifting cage you have Bob.

Thanks, it was a great investment. The spotting bars adjust easy, you can lower for deads so the 45's are only an inch off the ground, it has a pullup bar, and I have two dip handles that attach to one side.

Bob45

12-05-2007, 05:07 AM

Calories Eaten Yesterday
grams cals %total
Total: 1909
Fat: 69 617 33%
Carbs: 143 509 27%
Protein: 183 732 39%

8:30am
4 egg whites
1/2 cup oatmeal
1/3 cup cottage cheese
10walnuts

12:00pm
4 oz. chicken breast
1 tblspn mayo
cup green beans
2 slices sourdough bread(out of whole wheat)

3:00pm
4oz buffalo
1cup mixed veges
1/2 cup kidney, black, white bean mix

6:00pm
cup extra lean ground beef
cup geen beens
1/2 cup ziti

9:00pm
1/2 tblspn pb
2 scoops whey

I'm feeling like I eat twice as much lowering the carbs and eating more protein than usual. It will take a while for my stomach to get used to it. At least I'm never really hungry. A big part of eating right will be having the right foods home. We run out of everything quick. Couldn't work out or do cardio. I had a bad headache from this cold and very congested with a cough. The night before workout did't help it much. 3 ibruprofens wouldn't get rid of the headache.

Getsum

12-05-2007, 06:37 AM

Awesome home gym Bob. I hope you feel better man.

Bob45

12-05-2007, 07:10 PM

Awesome home gym Bob. I hope you feel better man.

Thanks!

Didn't feel great but went tonight anyway.

cardio warmup

leg press
180 x 10
270 x 10 x 4

cgbp
105 x 10 x 3

db curls
30's x 10
35's x 10 x 2

lateral raises
20's x 10 x 3

arc trainer - 20 minutes - 230 calories

better than not going!

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 2325
Fat: 86 775 34%
Carbs: 168 606 27%
Protein: 224 897 39%

8:15
1/2 cup oatmeal
4 egg whites
1/3 cup cottage cheese
10 walnuts

12:00
4oz. chicken
1tbspn mayo
2 slices bread
1 cup corn

2:45
5 oz. x-lean ground beef
1/2 cup plain LF yogurt
1 tbspn jelly

5:30
4oz. lean roast pork
1/2 cup bean mix
3/4 cup corn

7:00 workout

8:00 lean muscle milk

9:15
1/2 cup cottage cheese
15 mini shrimp

That took me forever to type! Good night.

IronIc

12-05-2007, 07:20 PM

Good looking workouts and eats! Have a nice night Bob! :)

scienceteacher

12-06-2007, 04:30 AM

Looks like you are getting things dialed in Bob.

Bob45

12-06-2007, 05:09 AM

Hi Teach and Penney!

Bob45

12-06-2007, 05:34 AM

I've had a lot of physical and personal problems the past quite a few years. I really haven't been getting anywhere. When I do I will be back. Kevin even pointed out.

But Bob, let's cut through the ****; you used to compete, and you've asked for diet help/advice since you "rejoined" her last year. You've never given anyone's advice a real chance, and continue to eat Bob's way. So, what's the fucl<ing point of even asking about something specific like the difference between real food and supplemental food? All you've been doing is spinning your wheels...and that's cool. Just quit wasting people's time asking the same BS over and over again. ****...or get off the fucl<ing pot.

So long!

Hibiscus09

12-06-2007, 05:57 AM

Bob, ignore the haters in the world. Life is to be enjoyed and you should continue posting if you want to post.

I enjoy reading your posts. :)

But Bob, let's cut through the ****; you used to compete, and you've asked for diet help/advice since you "rejoined" her last year. You've never given anyone's advice a real chance, and continue to eat Bob's way. So, what's the fucl<ing point of even asking about something specific like the difference between real food and supplemental food? All you've been doing is spinning your wheels...and that's cool. Just quit wasting people's time asking the same BS over and over again. ****...or get off the fucl<ing pot.

That's about the most jerk post I've ever read here, but some people practice being arrogant *******s a lot.

ChocoChick

12-06-2007, 06:03 AM

Thanks!

Didn't feel great but went tonight anyway.

cardio warmup

leg press
180 x 10
270 x 10 x 4

cgbp
105 x 10 x 3

db curls
30's x 10
35's x 10 x 2

lateral raises
20's x 10 x 3

arc trainer - 20 minutes - 230 calories

better than not going!

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 2325
Fat: 86 775 34%
Carbs: 168 606 27%
Protein: 224 897 39%

8:15
1/2 cup oatmeal
4 egg whites
1/3 cup cottage cheese
10 walnuts

12:00
4oz. chicken
1tbspn mayo
2 slices bread
1 cup corn

2:45
5 oz. x-lean ground beef
1/2 cup plain LF yogurt
1 tbspn jelly

5:30
4oz. lean roast pork
1/2 cup bean mix
3/4 cup corn

7:00 workout

8:00 lean muscle milk

9:15
1/2 cup cottage cheese
15 mini shrimp

That took me forever to type! Good night.

This looks pretty good, Bob. Try to work some green veggies in there, maybe instead of the corn at one meal (to start). Broccoli is king. :)

giantfan43

12-06-2007, 06:15 AM

Bob, ignore the haters in the world. Life is to be enjoyed and you should continue posting if you want to post.

I enjoy reading your posts. :)

That's about the most jerk post I've ever read here, but some people practice being arrogant *******s a lot.

Bump to hib .. hate to see you go Bob-o ! I've known you around these boards longer than almost anyone .. it would be a shame if you left cuz of one ignorant post.

ArchAngel'73

12-06-2007, 08:52 AM

Bob, I've run across some upsetting stuff on the board too and felt super pissed and almost left.
It is up to you, but, this is only the internet.;)
You're a valued member here, I'd hate to see you go brother. Regardless of your decision, I wish you all the best in your fitness and health endeavours.:)

alkell

12-06-2007, 02:51 PM

I didn't think DBX was like that, live and learn.

Don't let it worry you mate, it looks like you are making progress to me. It never ceases to amaze me that some long time posters seem to think because they have asked the same questions before, or seen the same questions posted, that we shouldn't ask them again. Or even start threads to get a bit of community feeling about the forum.

Your diet looks solid to me for trying to burn fat.

Bob45

12-06-2007, 05:54 PM

Bob, ignore the haters in the world. Life is to be enjoyed and you should continue posting if you want to post.

I enjoy reading your posts. :)

Thanks Diane. I like the hat in the avatar.

ChocolateGirl Quote:

This looks pretty good, Bob. Try to work some green veggies in there, maybe instead of the corn at one meal (to start). Broccoli is king.

That was on the shopping list. I had a bunch today. We run out of stuff fast around here.

giantfan43 Quote:
Bump to hib .. hate to see you go Bob-o ! I've known you around these boards longer than almost anyone .. it would be a shame if you left cuz of one ignorant post.

Thanks Dom!

Fiend_73 Bob, I've run across some upsetting stuff on the board too and felt super pissed and almost left.
It is up to you, but, this is only the internet.
You're a valued member here, I'd hate to see you go brother. Regardless of your decision, I wish you all the best in your fitness and health endeavours.

Hi Brian, It probably won't be that easy to get rid of me.

alkell I didn't think DBX was like that, live and learn.

Don't let it worry you mate, it looks like you are making progress to me. It never ceases to amaze me that some long time posters seem to think because they have asked the same questions before, or seen the same questions posted, that we shouldn't ask them again. Or even start threads to get a bit of community feeling about the forum.

Your diet looks solid to me for trying to burn fat.

There's always a lot to learn no matter how long you have been at it Al. I should probably have a mod delete all this negative crap and forget about it.

ChocoChick

12-06-2007, 05:57 PM

Glad you're still here. :)

Bob45

12-06-2007, 06:01 PM

Glad you're still here. :)

Thanks Elise. It would be pretty hard to stop looking at your avatar everyday.

Tifflex

12-06-2007, 06:07 PM

Glad you're still here. :)

x2

Samraiwise

12-07-2007, 07:18 AM

Bob45

12-07-2007, 07:24 AM

Bob!? Do you hate to use "multiquote" button?

I understand, because it's so ugly...it looks like my face in the mirror.

Hello Bob, don't you recoganize me? It's me, Kaz. http://www.angelfire.com/nb/kazuo/img/multiquote.gif Hahahaha~!!

See!? Now I'm beginning to hate it too!!
(Have a nice Friday!!)

There's a lot of buttons I never press. I get stuck into one way of doing things and don't even check a lot of things out. I never even tried it!

IronIc

12-07-2007, 07:25 AM

DON'T LEAVE BOB!!!!!!!!! :D

****ty comments are to be expected on the internet. It is unfortunate people can be so hateful. Let it roll off. Keep on doing your best :)

Bob45

12-07-2007, 07:32 AM

DON'T LEAVE BOB!!!!!!!!! :D

****ty comments are to be expected on the internet. It is unfortunate people can be so hateful. Let it roll off. Keep on doing your best :)

I'm staying Penney. Thanks. The posts and pm's I got reminded me I have a lot of good internet friends that would be hard to leave.

That multiquote button is good, duh. I've been copying and pasting. I better do more clicking. I need to make up for my not so fast typing.

Hot Rose

12-07-2007, 10:30 AM

Happy Friday Bob :D

Great looking Home gym. looks like our basment hope to have ours set up by next weekend.

scienceteacher

12-07-2007, 11:36 AM

Have a great weekend Bob.

Bob45

12-07-2007, 05:39 PM

Happy Friday Bob :D

Great looking Home gym. looks like our basment hope to have ours set up by next weekend.

Hi Rose. Have a good weekend.

Have a great weekend Bob.

You too Teach!

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 1985
Fat: 75 678 35%
Carbs: 145 505 26%
Protein: 193 773 40%

deadlifts
135 x 5
179 x 5
225 x 5
267 x 5
293 x 5

BB curls
45 x 10
67 x 10
75 x 10 on ez bar (already setup)
90 x 6

lying side laterals
15 x 15 x 2

This was a home workout. I need to get another machine for cardio. I can't stand the treadmill. If I want to run or walk I could go outside. I feel like I am eating more instead of less. It's mainly a change in ratios. I've been being pretty careful for quite a while. Drinks on weekends are my only downfall. At least I will have diet rum and coke tonight.

jspirate

12-07-2007, 05:47 PM

Glad you're still here. :)

x2

X3

Bob45

12-08-2007, 10:03 PM

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 1987
Fat: 70 630 32%
Carbs: 176 652 33%
Protein: 168 671 34%

Bob45

12-09-2007, 05:24 PM

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 1968
Fat: 67 600 31%
Carbs: 140 512 26%
Protein: 205 821 42%

Bob45

12-10-2007, 06:12 PM

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 2110
Fat: 61 545 25%
Carbs: 239 915 43%
Protein: 170 682 32%

The protein is bloating and gasing me up pretty good. I'm not used to much more than 150 grams a day. I kept it a little lower today to give it a break.

Today I did some BW exercises. I sure need them. In the 25 rep range I am terrible. The burn is unbelievable. I did deep knee bends, step ups, lunges, and pushups. Quick paced sets.

ChocoChick

12-10-2007, 06:56 PM

Hey Bob, is your appt with the endo this week? December 12 is in my head for some reason...

scienceteacher

12-11-2007, 04:18 AM

Hey Bob, is your appt with the endo this week? December 12 is in my head for some reason...

I was wondering the same thing Bob. If so, hope it goes well.

jspirate

12-11-2007, 04:37 AM

SR800

12-11-2007, 04:51 AM

ah the joys of high protein gas, i hear, feel, and smell you brother :D

Bob45

12-11-2007, 05:31 AM

Hey Bob, is your appt with the endo this week? December 12 is in my head for some reason...

It's the 18th. Hopefully he can help. My prostate issues are coming back too.

Bob45

12-11-2007, 05:39 AM

ah the joys of high protein gas, i hear, feel, and smell you brother :D
So it's not just me?!

Hey Bob, is this bloating caused by whole food protein or is it from whey? I find it curious...
All forms.

I was wondering the same thing Bob. If so, hope it goes well.

I'm not sure what I hope. If it goes well meaning everything is fine then what?

scienceteacher

12-11-2007, 06:04 AM

So it's not just me?!

All forms.

I'm not sure what I hope. If it goes well meaning everything is fine then what?

I hope he can "fix what ails you"

orca

12-11-2007, 09:47 AM

Hey, stopping in to say hello. How's it going?

IronIc

12-11-2007, 09:56 AM

Hi Bob! I hope your endo appt goes well :)

I had um gas issues from an extremely high protein diet. I reduced the protein some (and have minimal pp) and that greatly improved :o

Bob45

12-11-2007, 10:37 AM

I hope he can "fix what ails you"

Me too. I hope it's something tha can be changed and fixed. not something I have to do the rest of my life.

Hey, stopping in to say hello. How's it going?

Same old stuff in here. I'll have to see how much weight your moving now.

Hi Bob! I hope your endo appt goes well :)

I had um gas issues from an extremely high protein diet. I reduced the protein some (and have minimal pp) and that greatly improved :o

I was thinking I'd get used to it after a few days. I'm wondering how accurated my supposedly super accurate food scale is. I just weighed 6 oz. of tuna from a can and it weighed 4 oz. I wonder if it's the scale or the can of tuna that's wrong. I'll do some more checking. Maybe this is why I have to eat so much to get enough and I'm actually getting a lot! Edited...it was the water. I had squeezed it out. A 6oz. can of tuna has about 2 oz. of water.

Hot Rose

12-11-2007, 12:56 PM

Hi Bob :D

Your Diet is looking good :)

Bob45

12-11-2007, 01:41 PM

Hi Bob :D

Your Diet is looking good :)

Hi Rose, Thanks!

alkell

12-11-2007, 03:20 PM

No it's not just you Bob. It's the old high protein high potency gas syndrome. I used to leave the room when my dog broke wind, now he leaves the room when I do :)

Hope all is well, cheers Al

Bob45

12-12-2007, 04:55 AM

No it's not just you Bob. It's the old high protein high potency gas syndrome. I used to leave the room when my dog broke wind, now he leaves the room when I do :)

Hope all is well, cheers Al

Isn't a lot of gas incomplete digestion? Are these macros really the best for us? Who knows? It is sure hard doing a physical job and holding it in, lol. I'll have to find your journal if you have one Al.

Calories Eaten yesterday
grams cals %total
Total: 2071
Fat: 71 635 32%
Carbs: 171 661 33%
Protein: 176 702 35%

No workout. I worked until 11PM.

alkell

12-12-2007, 01:09 PM

Isn't a lot of gas incomplete digestion? Are these macros really the best for us? Who knows? It is sure hard doing a physical job and holding it in, lol. I'll have to find your journal if you have one Al.

Calories Eaten yesterday
grams cals %total
Total: 2071
Fat: 71 635 32%
Carbs: 171 661 33%
Protein: 176 702 35%

No workout. I worked until 11PM.

It could be incomplete digestion, I don't know.
Hope you get your workout in today, work can be such an interference with our lives.

UCANDOIT

12-12-2007, 02:08 PM

Hi Bob

I also experienced cramps and gas with the high protein, I have expiremented with the amount, type off and when I take it. Normally I get past it, my worse times were when I was at 200g, now I have pushed to 300g with 3 protein shakes a day it seems a lot better. If I have a couple of days off the diet and have to push the protein back up then I go through all that again.

In short try push your protein intake up higher, I hope this helps.

Marcos
:D

Bob45

12-12-2007, 07:00 PM

It could be incomplete digestion, I don't know.
Hope you get your workout in today, work can be such an interference with our lives.

We should just quit work and workout!

Hi Bob

I also experienced cramps and gas with the high protein, I have expiremented with the amount, type off and when I take it. Normally I get past it, my worse times were when I was at 200g, now I have pushed to 300g with 3 protein shakes a day it seems a lot better. If I have a couple of days off the diet and have to push the protein back up then I go through all that again.

In short try push your protein intake up higher, I hope this helps.

Marcos
:D

I'll try it when I get my appetite back. For now I would have a hard time getting that much in. I did get some new casein and egg powders today. That will help. I know I'm a good carb eater, lol.

Started with bench presses tonight and every set felt horrible so I just did a ton of light stuff. Benches, db curls, tri extensions, shoulder presses, and single leg squats. I'm having an off week.

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 1771
Fat: 62 562 32%
Carbs: 143 521 30%
Protein: 166 665 38%

Bob45

12-13-2007, 05:03 AM

I actually feel pretty pumped from doing my BW exercises. They are a good alternative when the weights don't feel right.

orca

12-13-2007, 05:07 AM

I actually feel pretty pumped from doing my BW exercises. They are a good alternative when the weights don't feel right.

A change is always good. Way to adjust Bob.

Bob45

12-13-2007, 05:10 AM

A change is always good. Way to adjust Bob.

Thanks Kevin. We'll see how the weights feel today again. They are a lot more fun. We are getting some snow today finally. Then another storm over the weekend. I can't wait to ride snowmobiles with my boys.

ArchAngel'73

12-13-2007, 05:41 AM

Bob45

12-13-2007, 08:22 AM

Hey Bob!
One thing I did learn from the incident last week is that you've competed. Can you tell me more of how you prepped for the show(s)? What kind of diet and training did you follow, did you hire any one to help you, etc.?
I'm also interested in what you did for your posing routine, what song and tempo did you use?
I know the detials are not transferable, but good ideas are.;)
Thanks in advance!:)

I'm always willing to transfer any details. I did it Bob's way, lol. I didn't hire anyone. I was just a kid really. I did one at 23 and one at 24 years old. The huge difference is I always felt great back then. It is so much easier when you actually have some energy.

I didn't change my training and didn't do cardio. I always fought to get stronger. I also added a lot of body weight exercises between my routines. I did a lot of pushups, dips, and thousands of situps. I did them for 45 minutes at one point. I posed in the mirror a lot. I looked at pics of poses. I went to a couple local shows to watch routines.

The first show I picked a song no one knew which was a mistake. If you want the audience to get excited about the music pick a popular song. The song was Time Bomb by Lake. The second show was Only The Lonely by The Motels. That was popular in the 80's. It still doesn't make you look better, lol.

I was not big by any means. The first show I was 173 and the second I was 183. About a year apart. For food I ate a lot of salads, lots of lean beef, whole chickens, turkeys, egg whites, fish, tuna, and drank gallons of crystal light lemonade. My system won't even tolerate much meat these days. The closer it got to the show the less I ate. I'm sure I lost a lot more muscle than having a nutrionist. Even so I got pretty ripped. I was super psyched all the time which helped tremendously.

If I figure out what's ailing me I'll get cut again. For now nothing works like it did before. Hope this helps a little. The shows were a blast. Have fun!

IronIc

12-13-2007, 08:47 AM

Hi Bob! **waves** :)

alkell

12-13-2007, 12:10 PM

Do you find that body weight exercises make you feel strong? They do for me, as It feels light and I can remember when I started (I actually did body weight exercises only) that they were much harder.

Bob45

12-13-2007, 04:31 PM

Hi Bob! **waves** :)

Hi Penney.

Do you find that body weight exercises make you feel strong? They do for me, as It feels light and I can remember when I started (I actually did body weight exercises only) that they were much harder.

They definitely help!

Bob45

12-14-2007, 05:25 AM

Calories Eaten yesterday
grams cals %total
Total: 2162
Fat: 67 605 28%
Carbs: 172 650 30%
Protein: 222 886 41%

We got 8 inches of snow. That kept me busy.

I just did

Bench press
135 x 10 x 10

seated db press
30 x 10
45 x 10
55 x 5

3 sets very light squats 20 reps. I'll get my psyche back soon hopefully. Not that it makes a huge difference.

Bob45

12-14-2007, 06:58 PM

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 1892
Fat: 64 579 31%
Carbs: 211 803 43%
Protein: 120 479 26%

I forgot the homemade beef jerky. It was made from extra lean ground beef. 6oz.
Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 2319
Fat: 92 824 36%
Carbs: 211 803 35%
Protein: 162 649 29%

ChocoChick

12-14-2007, 07:29 PM

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 1892
Fat: 64 579 31%
Carbs: 211 803 43%
Protein: 120 479 26%

Wow - these calories are really low. I would up the protein and maybe down the carbs a bit. The day before looks much better. :)

Bob45

12-14-2007, 07:32 PM

Wow - these calories are really low. I would up the protein and maybe down the carbs a bit. The day before looks much better. :)

I was wondering if anyone would notice so i didn't make a comment with it. It was a low day. No shakes. Wait I forgot to add my beef jerky. I ate a lot of homemade jerky. 6oz. I'll go make the change. Thanks for checking up! I also had 2 slices of pizza for the first time in a few weeks. I felt stuffed after only 2.

ArchAngel'73

12-15-2007, 05:02 AM

I'm always willing to transfer any details. I did it Bob's way, lol. I didn't hire anyone. I was just a kid really. I did one at 23 and one at 24 years old. The huge difference is I always felt great back then. It is so much easier when you actually have some energy.

I didn't change my training and didn't do cardio. I always fought to get stronger. I also added a lot of body weight exercises between my routines. I did a lot of pushups, dips, and thousands of situps. I did them for 45 minutes at one point. I posed in the mirror a lot. I looked at pics of poses. I went to a couple local shows to watch routines.

The first show I picked a song no one knew which was a mistake. If you want the audience to get excited about the music pick a popular song. The song was Time Bomb by Lake. The second show was Only The Lonely by The Motels. That was popular in the 80's. It still doesn't make you look better, lol.

I was not big by any means. The first show I was 173 and the second I was 183. About a year apart. For food I ate a lot of salads, lots of lean beef, whole chickens, turkeys, egg whites, fish, tuna, and drank gallons of crystal light lemonade. My system won't even tolerate much meat these days. The closer it got to the show the less I ate. I'm sure I lost a lot more muscle than having a nutrionist. Even so I got pretty ripped. I was super psyched all the time which helped tremendously.

If I figure out what's ailing me I'll get cut again. For now nothing works like it did before. Hope this helps a little. The shows were a blast. Have fun!

Thanks for sharing!
Times were different back then! They seem to have made it very complicated now. The days are over when an audience member in fantastic shape can grab some speedos and compete. Crystal light is still a mainstay for many though!
We're you a naturally ripped guy?
Would you ever compete in a tested show, once you straighten out your imbalances? Thanks again Bob, I love hearing about this stuff!:)

Your cals are pretty low, are you seeing any of the results you want from this?

Bob45

12-15-2007, 05:22 AM

Thanks for sharing!
Times were different back then! They seem to have made it very complicated now. The days are over when an audience member in fantastic shape can grab some speedos and compete. Crystal light is still a mainstay for many though!
We're you a naturally ripped guy?
Would you ever compete in a tested show, once you straighten out your imbalances? Thanks again Bob, I love hearing about this stuff!:)

Your cals are pretty low, are you seeing any of the results you want from this?

I was always skinny fat. Those were the only times I got cut or even really tried to be back then. The past 5 years It is harder and harder to lose fat. I'm thinking it is hormonal. If I eat more than this I gain fat. I tried it this past year and I gained a lot of fat. I have no interest in competing again. I'd be happy to be energetic and in great shape.

alkell

12-17-2007, 11:18 AM

Hi Bob, hope all is well.

Bench press 135 x 10 x 10, wow that is a lot of sets, is that something you do often? How does your body respond?

IronIc

12-17-2007, 12:29 PM

Hi Bob, how are you today? That was alotta squats! :D

Bob45

12-18-2007, 05:21 AM

Hi Bob, hope all is well.

Bench press 135 x 10 x 10, wow that is a lot of sets, is that something you do often? How does your body respond?

Not too often. My joints were very stiff so I had to stay light.

Hi Bob, how are you today? That was alotta squats! :D

Still no energy. I go to the endocrinologist today. We'll see what he has to say. It will probably take a while for the results. Lots going on too. I probably won't be on a regular schedule until after the first of the year.

Hibiscus09

12-18-2007, 06:17 AM

I doubt many of us will be on a regular schedule until after the New Year, Bob. :p I hope all goes well with the endocrinologist.

Happy week before Christmas, hot stuff!!

IronIc

12-18-2007, 09:16 AM

I hope your visit goes well Bob!

Christmas is the ultimate energy vampire ;)

Hot Rose

12-18-2007, 02:30 PM

Hi Bob just cheching up on you :D like Penney said hope it goes well.

I am doing BW exercises too. figured it worked for me in basic training why not now :)

orca

12-18-2007, 03:19 PM

Stopping into say hey Bob! Hope all went well at the endocrinologist.

Tifflex

12-18-2007, 03:40 PM

Stopping into say hey Bob! Hope all went well at the endocrinologist.

x2

Bob45

12-19-2007, 09:02 AM

I doubt many of us will be on a regular schedule until after the New Year, Bob. :p I hope all goes well with the endocrinologist.

Happy week before Christmas, hot stuff!!

I hope your visit goes well Bob!

Christmas is the ultimate energy vampire ;)

Stopping into say hey Bob! Hope all went well at the endocrinologist.

x2

Thank you all for the posts.

My back is fine from the nose blowing. Now it hurts from snow blowing, lol. :lmao:

I went to the endo doc yesterday. The blood work results will be back in one to two weeks. I told him all my symptoms. He said they sound like half the population. The doctors are still stumped why we get BPH. I don't think that half the population had prostate surgery. That was my main reason for the visit. I don't want to go through that again. No one can give me an answer. They seem to have never heard the things I read on the internet.

I have read in several places it can be from lowering test levels and elevated estrogen. He hadn't heard that. He wasn't even going to test for estrogen. I talked him into it. He said men aren't generally tested for that. The tender nipple thing could be from prolactin. That will be tested. The weakness was the one he said most people had along with a slow metabolism. He suggested energy bars and eating even fewer than 2000 calories. That would go over big with a BB crowd.

I'll get some workouts in here and there over the holidays. I'll come up with a new plan and psyche for the first of the year. It will be another fat loss plan of course. It's my main problem all the time.

alkell

12-19-2007, 12:40 PM

Hi Bob, Merry Christmas in case I don't get back before then.

Bob45

12-19-2007, 08:04 PM

Hi Bob, Merry Christmas in case I don't get back before then.

Merry Christmas to you too Al!

Bob45

12-20-2007, 06:07 AM

I've been thinking about what my plans for the new year will be. I seem to feel the best at a much lighter bodyweight. It's a lot easier getting around at 180 than 220. I'll be 50 in April. My goal will be to get back to that by then. My business is a lot slower in the winter months. That will give me more time and energy to focus on my goal.

I know muscle burns fat. More muscle means a faster metabolism. The muscle I have now is my potential for the effort and time I want to put into it. An hour 3-4 times a week with some cardio included is what I like to do and can stick with. My metabolism has slowed drastically over the years. A couple years ago I was able to lose fat on 1600 -1800 calories and still maintain my strength and endurance. I'll probably try that again. It is very low calorie for someone my size but that it what does it for me. A high protein diet keeps me satisfied so it is easy to stick to.

If I gave higher calorie amounts being super strict several months it will probably work but I know that isn't going to happen. I need little results weekly to keep myself diet motivated. I've tried 2000 and higher for 2-3 weeks several times and never lost a pound or anything off the waist. Then I slack.

If I don't lift my bench press strength is over 60 pounds less. Same goes for other lifts proportionately. Also when I don't lift the v-taper goes away and I lose 2 inches in arm size. So with moderate effort I get great results IMO. I was mainly a skinny guy with belly flab before lifting. Now I'm basically a bigger version.

We'll see what the new year brings. Knowing I'll be turning 50 hopefully will give me that extra incentive to stick to my plan. At least I keep trying.

Getsum

12-20-2007, 06:17 AM

Bob45

12-21-2007, 03:17 PM

Sounds like a great plan Bob! I'm going to be 40 in April man. I have people tell me or comment that I'm taking in too few calories when I'm at 2300 to 2000 so I know what you're talking about. Bottom line is doing what works for you man and good luck with your goals. We do a bunch of body weight exercises in the boxing and kickboxing workouts I do, and man they can kick my butt. Great way to mix things up though.

I remember when I was 40, lol!

A little bit of everything today.

Bench press
135 x 10
135 x 7
155 x 5
175 x 5
185 x 5

incline smith
135 x 10 x 3

shoulder press machine
85 x 10
100 x 10

lateral raise machine
40 x 10 x 2

pulldowns
100 x 10
130 x 10

row machine
110 x 10
130 x 10

preacher curl
55 x 10 x 2

tri ext machine
70 x 10 x 2

leg press machine
150 x 10
230 x 10
310 x 2 (this machine hurt my knees so I stopped.

squat machine
100 x 10

cardio - arc trainer - 20 minutes - 306 calories

A week of from the weights felt like a year off today. I was doing BW exercises at home too.

Samraiwise

12-24-2007, 05:10 AM

Merry Xmas, Bob!!

http://www.angelfire.com/nb/kazuo/img/santa_hohoho.gif

hbk442000

12-24-2007, 09:09 PM

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff9/hbk442000/Smiley%20pics/merrychristmas.gifhttp://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff9/hbk442000/Smiley%20pics/san7.gifhttp://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff9/hbk442000/Smiley%20pics/Santachimney.gif

dartol

12-25-2007, 07:03 AM

Merry Christmas Bob!

Darren

jspirate

12-25-2007, 09:38 AM

Merry Christmas Bob!

http://www.shastahome.com/cards/christmas1.jpg

Getsum

12-25-2007, 09:47 AM

Merry Christmas Bob!

orca

12-25-2007, 07:22 PM

Merry Christmas Bob!

IronIc

12-25-2007, 07:29 PM

Hi Bob!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!! :D

Bob45

12-26-2007, 08:04 AM

Thanks everyone. Had a great Christmas with the family.

ArchAngel'73

12-27-2007, 04:08 AM

I'm late, but glad to hear your Christmas time was good.
Any resolutions for next year?

Bob45

12-27-2007, 12:55 PM

I'm late, but glad to hear your Christmas time was good.
Any resolutions for next year?

Same old BB one. Try to stay in shape. I did get a call from the endo office today. They want to discuss treatment for low testosterone with me.

namtrag

12-27-2007, 01:54 PM

Hi Bob,

Is it possible to get the testosterone blood test without going to the family doctor? In other words, can you just go get the blood drawn at a lab?

My insurance wouldn't pay anyway, so I am trying to save some money. I would like to get it checked. All my family doctor ordered at my physical was my free testosterone level. I hear there are two other levels that I need checked.

Bob45

12-27-2007, 03:27 PM

Bob45

12-30-2007, 11:06 AM

Finally felt good enough to get back to the gym again today. I saw a friend there I used to workout with when I was 21! He is still huge and looks great. He always made me feel small. I didn't push too hard today but did quite a bit.

bench press
135 x 10, 12
155 x 5
175 x 5
185 x 5
205 x 5

incline db press
55's x 5
65's x 8

shoulder press machine
90 x 5
140 x 5
170 x 5
180 x 5

lateral raises
20's x 10
30's x 10

row machine
130 x 8
150 x 8
170 x 8

pulldown machine
115 x 8
130 x 8
140 x 8

seated db curls
30's x 10
40's x 10

concentrated curls
30 x 5 x 3 alternating arms no rest

pushdowns
85 x 10
single alternating arms
45 x 10
55 x 10

cardio - arc trainer - 20 minutes - 296 calories - hr 140 bpm

jspirate

12-30-2007, 11:18 AM

Tifflex

12-30-2007, 11:29 AM

Nice looking workout Bob! How are you feeling? Have you set goals for 2008?

IronIc

12-30-2007, 12:41 PM

Hi Bob! Nice workout. I got tired reading it! :p

I'm glad they decided to take your test levels. :)

alkell

12-30-2007, 12:42 PM

Yeah that was some workout.

Glad you are feeling a bit better.

Happy new years mate.

namtrag

12-30-2007, 12:44 PM

You crammed all the missed workouts into one day....lol

Bob45

12-30-2007, 07:02 PM

Nice looking workout Bob! How are you feeling? Have you set goals for 2008?

I always have goals, lol. By April I will be 180!

Hi Bob! Nice workout. I got tired reading it! :p

I'm glad they decided to take your test levels. :)

Hopefully he will do something to give me some energy next.

Yeah that was some workout.

Glad you are feeling a bit better.

Happy new years mate.

Thanks Al. Happy New Year to you too. I think I will be staying home and celebrating. We are supposed to get 8 inches of snow overnight tonight. That will keep me busy tomorrow plus some regular work.

You crammed all the missed workouts into one day....lol

I felt if I missed any more I'd have to start all over. You can do a lot if the intensity is down.

Ummmmm, "quite a bit" is an understatement! :eek:

Hey JS. You've been pushing hard!

Hot Rose

01-01-2008, 12:11 AM

http://www.kimrichter.com/Blog/uploaded_images/New-Year-736449.gif

Getsum

01-01-2008, 12:44 AM

Happy New Year Bob! :)

Bob45

01-02-2008, 07:12 PM

http://www.kimrichter.com/Blog/uploaded_images/New-Year-736449.gif

Happy New Year Bob! :)

Happy New Year! Somehow I got in here. The forums seems to be having problems. At least for me.

I got a workout in tonight. It really drained me.

seated chest press
85 x 10
130 x 10
155 x 8
175 x 8
205 x 8
220 x 6

plate loaded shoulder press
90 x 10
110 x 8
140 x 8
160 x 8

machine pulldowns
110 x 8
130 x 8
150 x 8
170 x 8

machine row
130 x 8
170 x 8
190 x 8

cardio - arc trainer - 21 minutes - 300 calories

namtrag

01-02-2008, 07:17 PM

I should say it would drain, that is some serious volume, all compound. Great job!

And then cardio to boot

jspirate

01-03-2008, 04:15 AM

plate loaded shoulder press
90 x 10
110 x 8
140 x 8
160 x 8

Hmmm, I am not sure what these are, but it seems to me that these numbers have to be impressive for any shoulder work. Great looking workout Bob.

Bob45

01-03-2008, 07:59 AM

Hmmm, I am not sure what these are, but it seems to me that these numbers have to be impressive for any shoulder work. Great looking workout Bob.

That machine must give some type of advantage even though there isn't pulleys. I haven't gotten much over 135 x 8 or 10 with a BB. There were so many people in the gym. I had to use all machines.

I should say it would drain, that is some serious volume, all compound. Great job!

And then cardio to boot

Turns out I am getting another bad cold! My whole family has been sick.

So you guys are getting on here no problem? It always says the site is under maintenance for me. Then I go to the old browser link to get in.

jspirate

01-03-2008, 10:09 AM

That machine must give some type of advantage even though there isn't pulleys. I haven't gotten much over 135 x 8 or 10 with a BB. There were so many people in the gym. I had to use all machines.

Turns out I am getting another bad cold! My whole family has been sick.

So you guys are getting on here no problem? It always says the site is under maintenance for me. Then I go to the old browser link to get in.

Hmmm, I would try cleaning out all your cookies and history. other than that its sounds little strange. I am having no problems with the forum.

Bob45

01-03-2008, 01:30 PM

Hmmm, I would try cleaning out all your cookies and history. other than that its sounds little strange. I am having no problems with the forum.

I'll toss my cookies then.

Bob45

01-03-2008, 01:43 PM

Still getting the under maintenance heading.

Bob45

01-03-2008, 01:57 PM

This is the message.

Getsum

01-03-2008, 02:15 PM

Bob, I was getting this. Try hitting refresh from that screen. I seemed to be getting it when going to the forums from the main site but was ok when I went directly to my journal link. Good luck.

Hot Rose

01-03-2008, 04:05 PM

Turns out I am getting another bad cold! My whole family has been sick.

site is under maintenance for me.

Oh No sick again Yep that's the way it seems to work out here too sometimes I think we are sick through the whole winter :(

I get the maintenance thing off and on too. but not today

Bob45

01-03-2008, 06:56 PM

Bob, I was getting this. Try hitting refresh from that screen. I seemed to be getting it when going to the forums from the main site but was ok when I went directly to my journal link. Good luck.

Same thing here. I don't subscribe to a lot of threads because of too much email. So just clicking on the over age 35 gives me the messsage

Bob45

01-03-2008, 06:58 PM

Oh No sick again Yep that's the way it seems to work out here too sometimes I think we are sick through the whole winter :(

I get the maintenance thing off and on too. but not today

It's a long winter Rose. I'm going snowmobiling this weekend!

ArchAngel'73

01-04-2008, 02:30 AM

I had user CP issues too, but it went away within 48 hrs. Maybe contact admin and find out if something is up.
BTW, Happy New Year!:)

Bob45

01-07-2008, 05:12 AM

I had user CP issues too, but it went away within 48 hrs. Maybe contact admin and find out if something is up.
BTW, Happy New Year!:)

I emailed admin. The problem is gone.

Went snowmobiling this weekend. It's great for your entire back, shoulders, and quads. I can hardly get down the stairs today. Every back and shoulder muscle is sore too. I'll have to get more of these workouts in lol.

orca

01-07-2008, 05:14 AM

Went snowmobiling this weekend. It's great for your entire back, shoulders, and quads. I can hardly get down the stairs today. Every back and shoulder muscle is sore too. I'll have to get more of these workouts in lol.

Sounds like a blast.

Bob45

01-07-2008, 05:20 AM

Sounds like a blast.

It was! It's even better because my three sons 22, 20, and 18 all go with me.

IronIc

01-07-2008, 06:58 AM

Hi Bob! How are you? :)

Tifflex

01-07-2008, 07:01 AM

I emailed admin. The problem is gone.

Went snowmobiling this weekend. It's great for your entire back, shoulders, and quads. I can hardly get down the stairs today. Every back and shoulder muscle is sore too. I'll have to get more of these workouts in lol.

I love 'workouts' like these Bob. It's great you had a good time with your sons too. I like that they're not too 'cool' to have fun with dad.

How are you doing these days?

jspirate

01-07-2008, 07:22 AM

Bob45

01-09-2008, 10:09 AM

Hi Bob! How are you? :)

Well..... I've been reading a lot about HRT instead of posting here. My Hormone levels are off. That explains a lot of my problems. We can't discuss that in this section. The hrt section isn't to busy.

I love 'workouts' like these Bob. It's great you had a good time with your sons too. I like that they're not too 'cool' to have fun with dad.

How are you doing these days?

I've always been lucky my kids have fun with me.

Good job and fun too!

It's warm this week. It's all melting.

namtrag

01-09-2008, 10:36 AM

Yeah, we had 70+ all 3 days so far

Hot Rose

01-09-2008, 10:57 AM

Hi Bob :D

How fun snowmobiling with the kids glad you had a good time.

IronIc

01-09-2008, 11:00 AM

Hi Bob! How are you today?

SR800

01-09-2008, 04:44 PM

Snowmobiles rock!

Bob45

01-11-2008, 11:55 AM

I saw a another guy in the gym today that got me started working out when I was 21. He still looks good. I saw the gym owner today too. He started in the YMCA the same time I did years ago. I'll have to hit the gym at different times of the day more. I run into people I haven't seen in years. Once working out is in your blood I guess we can't quit.

I'm still holding my strength pretty good considering I feel like crap. I still got 225 x 5 on the bench. The fat keeps coming on even with moderate amounts of food. I am up to 225!

Hot Rose

01-11-2008, 12:13 PM

How neat that you have been seeing people from your past lifting days :) Glad you are holding on to your strength Bob. It is so weird that you are puting on fat could some of it be muscle?

Have a great weekend. Maybe it will snow and you can get out to snowmobile again :)

Bob45

01-11-2008, 01:41 PM

Glad you are holding on to your strength Bob. It is so weird that you are puting on fat could some of it be muscle?

It's the hormonal problem I'm having. I must be like a woman or something, lol.

Hibiscus09

01-11-2008, 02:04 PM

I hope you have a great weekend, Bob!! :)

Bob45

01-11-2008, 02:06 PM

I hope you have a great weekend, Bob!! :)

You too Hib!

dartol

01-12-2008, 04:35 AM

Hey Bob, keep pressin on man, you'll get it figured out. :)

Darren

Tifflex

01-12-2008, 07:55 AM

Hi Bob:)!

IronIc

01-12-2008, 10:11 AM

Happy Saturday Bob! :)

Bob45

01-12-2008, 03:28 PM

Hey Bob, keep pressin on man, you'll get it figured out. :)

Darren

Hi Bob:)!

Happy Saturday Bob! :)

Hi Darren, Tiffany, and Penney. I did a record cardio session for me today. 45 minutes and 639 calories. HR was around 135.

jspirate

01-12-2008, 03:54 PM

Hi Darren, Tiffany, and Penney. I did a record cardio session for me today. 45 minutes and 639 calories. HR was around 135.

Great job Bob! How is the eating coming along? I have been eating everything I see, its such a mess right now :eek:

dartol

01-12-2008, 04:09 PM

Hi Darren, Tiffany, and Penney. I did a record cardio session for me today. 45 minutes and 639 calories. HR was around 135.

Nice Bob, what kind of cardio did you do? I haven't done 45 minutes in a while... the beast woy for me to get time in without being bored is road biking. In the gym, about 15 minutes per machine is all I can stand without going looney, so I switch between machines if I want to go longer. :)

That's a low heart rate, faster next time! LOL :D

Darren

ArchAngel'73

01-13-2008, 03:23 AM

What a big pisser!!! Training, eating right, cardio, and the hormones are screwed and you put on fat. I'm frustrated for you brother!
I guess the only thing to do is to keep up with the good stuff until the medical aspect of things can be rectified. Perhaps it will kick in on its own, but if not, then you are still doing a great job at damage control before the meds can be prescribed/kick in. I wish you the best Bob.

Bob45

01-13-2008, 06:31 AM

Great job Bob! How is the eating coming along? I have been eating everything I see, its such a mess right now :eek:

The past few years I got into a lot better eating habits. I used to use a lot of sugar, butter, syrup, drink lots of sugared drinks, I ate a lot more high glycemic carbs than meats and fish. I pretty much have all that under control. Around the holidays and special events I do get into the junk. The past few years it has been good enough to keep me at around 15% BF. Not now.

Nice Bob, what kind of cardio did you do? I haven't done 45 minutes in a while... the beast woy for me to get time in without being bored is road biking. In the gym, about 15 minutes per machine is all I can stand without going looney, so I switch between machines if I want to go longer. :)
That's a low heart rate, faster next time! LOL :D

Yeah, there is always something to shoot for! Fat burn is supposedly 90 - 120 BPM. I keep it high in the 20 minute sessions. Like 145+

I use an arc trainer. It's sort of like an eliptical without the handles. You can adjust how hard it is to move the pedals which makes it easy to regulate your heartbeat at the same pace. It's got a calorie counter, pedals per minute, HR monitor, and several different levels for intensity. It seems to be the least boring one I found.

Darren

What a big pisser!!! Training, eating right, cardio, and the hormones are screwed and you put on fat. I'm frustrated for you brother!
I guess the only thing to do is to keep up with the good stuff until the medical aspect of things can be rectified. Perhaps it will kick in on its own, but if not, then you are still doing a great job at damage control before the meds can be prescribed/kick in. I wish you the best Bob.

That's basically what I have been doing the past few years as it progresses. At least they finally found a problem to work on. I always lost and gained easily. I also got had great endurance before. I want some of it back! Doctors don't seem to be to up on balancing hormones. Not even the endocrinologist. My test is low and the estradiol is in the upper level of normal. He's not even concerned with the E2 numbers. I found several sources showing that causes prostate problems which are coming back even after surgery. I'm bringing in a big writeup on it and hopefully the endo and uro will at least glance at it.

Samraiwise

01-13-2008, 06:44 AM

Hi Bob!! http://www.angelfire.com/nb/kazuo/img/sm_hi.gif

I'm still holding my strength pretty good considering I feel like crap. I still got 225 x 5 on the bench.
You're right, it's a great bench!! http://www.angelfire.com/nb/kazuo/img/sm_thumbup_cool.gif
If you said it's crap many of us might feel less than crap. (j/k)

Have a great weekend!!

dartol

01-13-2008, 11:19 AM

Yeah, there is always something to shoot for! Fat burn is supposedly 90 - 120 BPM. I keep it high in the 20 minute sessions. Like 145+

I think the 'fat burn' zone is misleading... if you go harder you burn more calories overall. Maybe you end up with a less percentage directly from fat, but burning more calories is good.

That's basically what I have been doing the past few years as it progresses. At least they finally found a problem to work on. I always lost and gained easily. I also got had great endurance before. I want some of it back! Doctors don't seem to be to up on balancing hormones. Not even the endocrinologist. My test is low and the estradiol is in the upper level of normal. He's not even concerned with the E2 numbers. I found several sources showing that causes prostate problems which are coming back even after surgery. I'm bringing in a big writeup on it and hopefully the endo and uro will at least glance at it.

That stinks Bob... have you tried things like ZMA to maybe help? It helps me sleep deeper, though I get some crazy dreams with it. I have read that you need some sat fat in your diet for test production as well, go figure. A friend of mine is having some problems like that too though, he had to go with the topical gel. He always eats low fat though, I wonder if that contributes. How is your sleep, stress, etc? Sleep problems can manifest themselves in a lot of ways.

Darren

Bob45

01-14-2008, 05:20 AM

Hi Bob!! http://www.angelfire.com/nb/kazuo/img/sm_hi.gif

You're right, it's a great bench!! http://www.angelfire.com/nb/kazuo/img/sm_thumbup_cool.gif
If you said it's crap many of us might feel less than crap. (j/k)

Have a great weekend!!

Good to hear from you Samraiwise! I hope I didn't miss any new videos.

I think the 'fat burn' zone is misleading... if you go harder you burn more calories overall. Maybe you end up with a less percentage directly from fat, but burning more calories is good.

That stinks Bob... have you tried things like ZMA to maybe help? It helps me sleep deeper, though I get some crazy dreams with it. I have read that you need some sat fat in your diet for test production as well, go figure. A friend of mine is having some problems like that too though, he had to go with the topical gel. He always eats low fat though, I wonder if that contributes. How is your sleep, stress, etc? Sleep problems can manifest themselves in a lot of ways.

Darren

Yeah Darren. I think the faster you go with cardio the better off off you are. I just pace myself so I can get through it! There is a lot of new thinking that I don't feel apllies very well. I do get plenty of good and some bad fats. I like my red meat, eggs, fish, walnuts, almonds, cottage cheese. I don't have much stress these days. I was way more aggressive and stressed with higher test levels. They are all good points you are making. The body sees estrogen as test too and that limits production. I'm hoping to lower that and raise it. I'm not looking forward to being on this forever.

orca

01-14-2008, 07:23 AM

Morning Bob. 225x5 is really good numbers. Glad to see you're still posting some good numbers.

IronIc

01-14-2008, 09:13 AM

Hi Darren, Tiffany, and Penney. I did a record cardio session for me today. 45 minutes and 639 calories. HR was around 135.
Awesome! What machine was that on, Bob? :)

IronIc

01-14-2008, 09:16 AM

I hope your endo issues get resolved soon, Bob. That has to be frustrating :(

Bob45

01-16-2008, 02:41 PM

Morning Bob. 225x5 is really good numbers. Glad to see you're still posting some good numbers.

Today I got 230 x 7. Saw a woman I went to HS with there. She is still a hottie. That may have given me an extra boost. 567 calories burned on cardio too. I'm mainly doing short heavy workouts and more cardio. Fat loss is really needed!

Awesome! What machine was that on, Bob? :)

That same Arc trainer. I had a picture of it somewhere on here.

I hope your endo issues get resolved soon, Bob. That has to be frustrating :(

Tomorrow I go to the urologist. I'm getting all doctors I can involved, lol. I'm sick of feeling lousy.

Hot Rose

01-17-2008, 04:22 PM

Good luck at the Doc's tomorrow :)

dartol

01-19-2008, 07:20 AM

Today I got 230 x 7. Saw a woman I went to HS with there. She is still a hottie. That may have given me an extra boost. 567 calories burned on cardio too. I'm mainly doing short heavy workouts and more cardio. Fat loss is really needed!

Tomorrow I go to the urologist. I'm getting all doctors I can involved, lol. I'm sick of feeling lousy.

Bet that gave you an extra burst of test... LOL

Short heavy plus cardio sounds like a good plan Bob. It will be intersting to see what the docs figure out, hopefully they can get to the root of the problem. Good luck and keep us filled in!

Another thing you might want to have checked is your sleep... apnea can cause a lot of problems that are hard to figure out. I knew someone who was just feeling terrible for a long time until they figured out his problem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea

Darren

jspirate

01-19-2008, 07:45 AM

Hehe - you walking hormone :D

Good luck with the docs!

Bob45

01-19-2008, 07:51 AM

Good luck at the Doc's tomorrow :)

Hi Rose. Unfortunately doctors don't wan't to regulate estrogen in men. Mine is at the higher end of normal. Through my reading and talking to several other people I am pretty sure that is my problem. I may fly out to a doc that will treat me.

Bet that gave you an extra burst of test... LOL

Short heavy plus cardio sounds like a good plan Bob. It will be intersting to see what the docs figure out, hopefully they can get to the root of the problem. Good luck and keep us filled in!

Another thing you might want to have checked is your sleep... apnea can cause a lot of problems that are hard to figure out. I knew someone who was just feeling terrible for a long time until they figured out his problem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea

Darren

Thanks for the tips. I believe I have found my problem as stated above.

Hehe - you walking hormone :D

Good luck with the docs!

Thanks JS!

SR800

01-21-2008, 10:51 AM

Luckily you are in New York, surely there is someone close who will work with you. Although the doctors are probably used to hearing the request go the other way in NYC :D

Bob45

01-24-2008, 06:53 PM

SR800

01-25-2008, 04:48 PM

Thanks for the avi shout out. I really do hope the docs get things sorted. I saw your old competition photo on Joeds video, great stuff there Bob, you are a big dude!

namtrag

01-25-2008, 06:26 PM

Hi Bob,

I like your bp numbers. I don't think I can do 225 even once.

Let us know what the doc says.

dartol

01-25-2008, 06:46 PM

Nice avatar there Blake!

I'm still at the weights but only a little at a time. I am getting stronger at bench pressing this way. I did the speed bag for cardio tonight. That thing is fun. It's a great upper body workout. Especially the shoulders.

More blood tests again today!

Bench press only
135 x 10
155 x 5
179 x 5
205 x 5
225 x 10
249 x 3

You call that a little? LOL
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j271/dartol/Icons/20325306.gif
My goal is to bench over 200 this year! Well it was last year too but I didn't discover Rippetoe in time... LOL I will this year!

Darren

Bob45

01-28-2008, 09:18 AM

Thanks for the avi shout out. I really do hope the docs get things sorted. I saw your old competition photo on Joeds video, great stuff there Bob, you are a big dude!

Being cut makes you look a lot bigger. I weighed 183 and I am 5'11.5".

Hi Bob,

I like your bp numbers. I don't think I can do 225 even once.

Let us know what the doc says.

Got to get that bench up then Mike. You want to be proportional. I know you have good numbers on the legs. Just got more tests. Docs aren't good with male hormonal problems. I thought the endo would be. I had limited tests. If you are in range they won't adjust things. Borderline low test and borderline high estradiol aren't a good combo for me.

You call that a little? LOL
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j271/dartol/Icons/20325306.gif
My goal is to bench over 200 this year! Well it was last year too but I didn't discover Rippetoe in time... LOL I will this year!

Darren

You can do it Darren. I think the biggest mistake we make is trying to improve too many things at once.

Hot Rose

01-28-2008, 09:29 AM

Happy Monday Bob

"249 x 3" way to go on the BP :D

ArchAngel'73

01-28-2008, 09:37 AM

Hi Bob!
Feeling ****ty NOT considered, that's a kick ass bench!
I'm glad to hear you have your endo problem figured out and have a plan of attack.
FTR, I've gotten similar "boosts" in the gym when the hawties are there. Who woulda thunk?:p

alkell

01-28-2008, 01:41 PM

Over 200 for BP for reps is strong work mate, well done.

SR800

01-28-2008, 05:00 PM

Either way Bob you looked great in that photo. I have to believe you have a lot more LBM now, it will be nice to see when you get the hormone situation straightened out.

Bob45

01-29-2008, 05:19 AM

Happy Monday Bob

"249 x 3" way to go on the BP :D

Hi Rose, thanks for brightening up my thread with your presence!

Hi Bob!
Feeling ****ty NOT considered, that's a kick ass bench!
I'm glad to hear you have your endo problem figured out and have a plan of attack.
FTR, I've gotten similar "boosts" in the gym when the hawties are there. Who woulda thunk?:p
The mind is good for a lot more strength and endurance. I wish I could keep positive all the time.

Over 200 for BP for reps is strong work mate, well done.

Thanks Al.

Either way Bob you looked great in that photo. I have to believe you have a lot more LBM now, it will be nice to see when you get the hormone situation straightened out.

I'd love to 180 and ripped again. I could lose bodyweight at 3500 calories back then. Now it is 1600 so I don't believe it will be happening too soon. I'm even doing cardio. It's tough getting old.

Bob45

01-29-2008, 01:05 PM

orca

01-29-2008, 01:10 PM

Hey Bob. Kick butt bench day! 225x10 = :D

namtrag

01-29-2008, 01:22 PM

Cardio sucks Bob!

I am starting to do an hour a day, but not HIIT. I am usually going between 120-125 on the heart rate for the entire hour.

On the bench press, I will work up to it later, but the tenidinitis in my left shoulder is finally getting better and I don't want to do anything to start it up again!

Man, I hope you can get the levels fixed.

Bob45

01-29-2008, 02:42 PM

Hey Bob. Kick butt bench day! 225x10 = :D

Thanks Kevin.

Cardio sucks Bob!

I am starting to do an hour a day, but not HIIT. I am usually going between 120-125 on the heart rate for the entire hour.

On the bench press, I will work up to it later, but the tenidinitis in my left shoulder is finally getting better and I don't want to do anything to start it up again!

Man, I hope you can get the levels fixed.

I forgot about the shoulder. You definitely don't want to aggravate that.

Hibiscus09

01-29-2008, 03:22 PM

Today I thought my cardio was real easy. I was on a level 10 steps higher. Heartbeat was only getting to 115. Then I found out the weight was only set on 150. Once I set it back to 225 it all got much harder again. Just another thing playing with the mind. I did burn 600 calories in 42 minutes. I got my HR to 165 at one point. I remember Hib saying she was between 155 and 160 for 20 minutes. That is tough.

Hi Bob! Yep -- post workout that's about where I have my heart rate now. When I worked with Pam, she told me to keep it at 140bpm. I do pre-breakfast cardio at a much lighter pace.

I know people say you lose lean mass that way, but so far I'm gaining lean mass and losing fat -- so whatever. I think losing lean mass has more to do with lack of nutritional support. Of course, when you get uber lean towards the end of contest prep -- it gets more and more difficult to hang onto the lean mass.

You're doing great! :)

IronIc

01-29-2008, 05:45 PM

Howdy Bob! Very nice BP numbers :)

dartol

01-29-2008, 06:33 PM

You can do it Darren. I think the biggest mistake we make is trying to improve too many things at once.

Yeah good point Bob. I will get back to Rippetoe in 4 more weeks I think, then work on increasing again. :)

Hey any more news from the docs?

Darren

UCANDOIT

02-02-2008, 03:13 AM

Hi Bob,

How are things going, I see you are still sorting out the hormone thing. Just something I heard on Estrogen, something to avoid is Broccolli, it blocks the estrogen blockers, or something like that. I am not sure of the facts but avoid it anyway.:)

Good luck and enjoy the week lifting.

Marcos
:D

Bob45

02-02-2008, 06:37 AM

Hi Bob! Yep -- post workout that's about where I have my heart rate now. When I worked with Pam, she told me to keep it at 140bpm. I do pre-breakfast cardio at a much lighter pace.
I know people say you lose lean mass that way, but so far I'm gaining lean mass and losing fat -- so whatever. I think losing lean mass has more to do with lack of nutritional support. Of course, when you get uber lean towards the end of contest prep -- it gets more and more difficult to hang onto the lean mass.

You're doing great! :)
When I get things straightened out I will be doing even more cardio and at an increasing faster pace. For now the endurance isn't building. I do feel like I am putting on more muscle with the cardio and just compound lifts.

Howdy Bob! Very nice BP numbers :)
Thanks Penney. It feels good to add those extra plates on.

Yeah good point Bob. I will get back to Rippetoe in 4 more weeks I think, then work on increasing again. :)

Hey any more news from the docs?
Darren
No word yet on the new tests. I keep calling. They have a recorded system.

Hi Bob,

How are things going, I see you are still sorting out the hormone thing. Just something I heard on Estrogen, something to avoid is Broccoli, it blocks the estrogen blockers, or something like that. I am not sure of the facts but avoid it anyway.:)

Good luck and enjoy the week lifting.

Marcos
:D

I kind of heard the opposite Marcos. There is something in Broccoli that helps with estrogen metabolism. I'm taking some OTC stuff (Indolplex DIM)which is also supposed to help. It says on the bottle you would have to eat 2 pounds of brocolli to get the same benefits.

dartol

02-02-2008, 06:58 AM

No word yet on the new tests. I keep calling. They have a recorded system.

I kind of heard the opposite Marcos. There is something in Broccoli that helps with estrogen metabolism. I'm taking some OTC stuff (Indolplex DIM)which is also supposed to help. It says on the bottle you would have to eat 2 pounds of brocolli to get the same benefits.

That has got to be frustrating. :(

Whew, I was worried about that, I eat a lot of broccoli! LOL

Darren

jspirate

02-02-2008, 07:37 AM

When I get things straightened out I will be doing even more cardio and at an increasing faster pace. For now the endurance isn't building. I do feel like I am putting on more muscle with the cardio and just compound lifts.

Thanks Penney. It feels good to add those extra plates on.

No word yet on the new tests. I keep calling. They have a recorded system.

I kind of heard the opposite Marcos. There is something in Broccoli that helps with estrogen metabolism. I'm taking some OTC stuff (Indolplex DIM)which is also supposed to help. It says on the bottle you would have to eat 2 pounds of brocolli to get the same benefits.

Good gracious! I have been workiong hard to choke down a couple cups of the stuff. :eek:

Bob45

02-02-2008, 09:34 AM

That has got to be frustrating. :(

Whew, I was worried about that, I eat a lot of broccoli! LOL

Darren

Who knows what is right. When I stop getting teary eyed during disney movies I'll know it worked, lol.

Good gracious! I have been workiong hard to choke down a couple cups of the stuff. :eek:

Marcos will have to get us a link where he read that it isn't good.

dartol

02-02-2008, 10:51 AM

Who knows what is right. When I stop getting teary eyed during disney movies I'll know it worked, lol.

Marcos will have to get us a link where he read that it isn't good.

DOH! Maybe that is what my problem is... LOL

Darren

UCANDOIT

02-02-2008, 08:48 PM

Hi Bob

I thinks you is right.......damn these specialist (aka PT). I have found more and more of what they say to be faulted......

Thanks for setting me on the straight and narrow, I did google it and it seems that there is more evidence for than against.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend while I go and get some broccili....

Cheers
Marcos
:D

Bob45

02-03-2008, 05:28 AM

jspirate

02-03-2008, 05:35 AM

If it was right it sure would have been easy to give up! Too bad all high glycemic carbs didn't make you big and strong too.

YES! I tried to rep ya on that one Bob, but I need to spread some around...

Bob45

02-03-2008, 05:51 AM

YES! I tried to rep ya on that one Bob, but I need to spread some around...

I've tried it several times too. It just won't work for me.

My weight is finally getting under control I think. I got up to 228 without a lot of junk food. I'm a lot bigger all over but the gut is way too big. I'm back down to 219 at the same calorie intake basically. I need to lose a lot before vacation time in April. I'll continue with more cardio and less lifting. My compound lifts are still going up so I think I am doing the right thing. On BP I got 235 x 5 the other day. I think it is the most I did since getting back to lifting the past 5 years.

jspirate

02-03-2008, 06:03 AM

I've tried it several times too. It just won't work for me.

My weight is finally getting under control I think. I got up to 228 without a lot of junk food. I'm a lot bigger all over but the gut is way too big. I'm back down to 219 at the same calorie intake basically. I need to lose a lot before vacation time in April. I'll continue with more cardio and less lifting. My compound lifts are still going up so I think I am doing the right thing. On BP I got 235 x 5 the other day. I think it is the most I did since getting back to lifting the past 5 years.

Wow, that story sounds exactly like mine. I ate alot of junk over the holidays and put on 8 - 10 pounds. It all went to my mid-section :( I did get stronger during this period and may have put on some muscle, but the mid-section has to go. My vacation is in June, so I have more time and as such I plan to take a slow and steady approach. We shall see how it goes.

Good job on the BP!

Hey, I know you will probably curse me for throwing out some more diet/nutrition stuff :D, but have you seen this? Its feels like some advertising is going one here, but it is interesting nonetheless.

http://www.scivationbooks.com/endomorphs.htm

IronIc

02-03-2008, 06:27 AM

Morning Bob! I'm happy to see your weight issues are finally coming under control :)

dartol

02-03-2008, 07:01 AM

Hey Bob, congrats on the bench, that is awesome! I tried to give you reps too, but I have to spread them around more as well... LOL

It is cool that you are getting things under control too. Check out my new plan in my journal if you get time, I'd appreciate your input.

Darren

Bob45

02-03-2008, 08:08 AM

Wow, that story sounds exactly like mine. I ate alot of junk over the holidays and put on 8 - 10 pounds. It all went to my mid-section :( I did get stronger during this period and may have put on some muscle, but the mid-section has to go. My vacation is in June, so I have more time and as such I plan to take a slow and steady approach. We shall see how it goes.

Good job on the BP!

Hey, I know you will probably curse me for throwing out some more diet/nutrition stuff :D, but have you seen this? Its feels like some advertising is going one here, but it is interesting nonetheless.

http://www.scivationbooks.com/endomorphs.htm

I've been 220 for quite some time. I believe reducing a lot of isolation lifts and focusing on the heavy stuff has helped. Thanks for the link. Just a few years ago I believed everything worked. It all came pretty easy to me up to a point. Then slowly I developed my current problem and nothing worked. It's all still learning.

Morning Bob! I'm happy to see your weight issues are finally coming under control :)

Me too! I wouldn't want to be seen with my shirt off. I'm not used to being this fat.

Hey Bob, congrats on the bench, that is awesome! I tried to give you reps too, but I have to spread them around more as well... LOL

It is cool that you are getting things under control too. Check out my new plan in my journal if you get time, I'd appreciate your input.

Darren

I always try to give reps and can't either. I will stop over now.

Bob45

02-05-2008, 12:24 PM

It probably isn't right but the Arc Trainer said I burned 700 calories in 45 minutes today!

Hot Rose

02-05-2008, 01:51 PM

Too bad all high glycemic carbs didn't make you big and strong too.

I wish they did because I would have put on a few pounds of muscle over the last couple of days :o

It probably isn't right but the Arc Trainer said I burned 700 calories in 45 minutes today!

WOW! That's great Bob. :D

I ?ll have to give the Arc a try tonight see how many cals I can burn in 20 I can't hang for 45

dartol

02-05-2008, 02:55 PM

It probably isn't right but the Arc Trainer said I burned 700 calories in 45 minutes today!

It could be Bob... I know road biking can burn about 2000 cals per hour at 18 mph or so... LOL

Darren

UCANDOIT

02-06-2008, 03:21 AM

Hi Bob,

Just popped in to say hi

Enjoy your week of lifting

Marcos
:D

Tifflex

02-06-2008, 05:36 AM

It probably isn't right but the Arc Trainer said I burned 700 calories in 45 minutes today!

From what I've heard/read, the arc trainer burns a butt load of calories. Nice job!

Bob45

02-08-2008, 05:38 AM

I wish they did because I would have put on a few pounds of muscle over the last couple of days :o
WOW! That's great Bob. :D

I ?ll have to give the Arc a try tonight see how many cals I can burn in 20 I can't hang for 45

I'll have to go see what you did. It's good your husband is into it too.

It could be Bob... I know road biking can burn about 2000 cals per hour at 18 mph or so... LOL

Darren

Especially uphill!

Hi Bob,

Just popped in to say hi

Enjoy your week of lifting

Marcos
:D

Hey Marcos. Good to have you around again. Now I'm the one not posting much.

From what I've heard/read, the arc trainer burns a butt load of calories. Nice job!

Good to hear. I do hear people say it is hard for them. My sister for one. My feet seem to fall asleep after a while on that thing. I have to keep moving my toes.

Still not able to do what I want energy wise but keeping my strength. BP numbers are still my favorite to track. My workouts have been pretty limited for now. I have another doc appt today. Not really getting anywhere with them. I manage to get cardio in around 3 times a week which isn't enough to lose the fat I want. Still doing my lateral raises, pushups, single leg squats, light curls, and military presses. Went to the gym for cardio but there were no parking spots and several people waiting for one to open. I'll have to remember to avoid 5pm. Here's my BP numbers from last night;

115 x 5
135 x 5
155 x 3
179 x 1
205 x1
223 x 1
244 x 1
256 x 1
267 x 1
283.5 x 1

Hibiscus09

02-08-2008, 07:25 AM

Great job on BPs, Bob! :) I hate when the gym is crowded. Yuck.

I hope you have a nice Friday and a very happy weekend! :)

Bob45

02-10-2008, 12:35 PM

Great job on BPs, Bob! :) I hate when the gym is crowded. Yuck.

I hope you have a nice Friday and a very happy weekend! :)

Hope you had a good weekend Hib!

Doctor called me at my house Saturday night! Said my cholesterol went way up. Then says I gained a lot of weight, lol. I went there in the beginning saying I can lose fat and feels like I have hormonal problems. That was back in July!

On the good side the hormone part of it is getting better. I did lose 4 pounds. Actually I had lost 9 but gained 5 back Super Bowl weekend. He wants to put me on Lipitor. I don't want it! I am going to tell him Monday I want to get it back to normal with diet and exercise now that the hormone thing is headed in the right direction.

I'll be doing the same. Lots of cardio and short heavy weight routines. 45 minutes today for 660 calories. I want to do that everyday now.

alkell

02-10-2008, 01:35 PM

Hi Bob, nice BP weights mate, keep it up.

jspirate

02-10-2008, 02:54 PM

Hope you had a good weekend Hib!

Doctor called me at my house Saturday night! Said my cholesterol went way up. Then says I gained a lot of weight, lol. I went there in the beginning saying I can lose fat and feels like I have hormonal problems. That was back in July!

On the good side the hormone part of it is getting better. I did lose 4 pounds. Actually I had lost 9 but gained 5 back Super Bowl weekend. He wants to put me on Lipitor. I don't want it! I am going to tell him Monday I want to get it back to normal with diet and exercise now that the hormone thing is headed in the right direction.

I'll be doing the same. Lots of cardio and short heavy weight routines. 45 minutes today for 660 calories. I want to do that everyday now.

Wow. Thats alot going on there Bob. With respect to the cardio.. if you do 45 minutes everyday, where do you go from there?

Sharing my misery... I am in a weird place right now. My bicep tendinitis has me backing off of my workouts and I just can't seem to get excited about diet when I can't workout hard. I am not sure what I am going to do.

Hehe - sorry for stopping my your journal only to whine about my situation! :D

Bob45

02-11-2008, 06:00 AM

Hi Bob, nice BP weights mate, keep it up.

Thanks Al!

Wow. Thats alot going on there Bob. With respect to the cardio.. if you do 45 minutes everyday, where do you go from there?

Sharing my misery... I am in a weird place right now. My bicep tendinitis has me backing off of my workouts and I just can't seem to get excited about diet when I can't workout hard. I am not sure what I am going to do.

Hehe - sorry for stopping my your journal only to whine about my situation! :D

Misery loves company! After I lose the fat with cardio probably gain it back JS! Lol.

You have plenty of muscle to get lean and look great. You can always get more muscle when the aches go away.

We went out this weekend for a dinner, comedy show, and band. It was a great time. The comedian wa real funny. He blew up one of those long skinny balloons. He tied it up with two balls on end. It was about two feet long. Then he put it in his mouth slowly. A few minutes later it was all in his mouth up to the balls. Everone was amazed! Then he took it out and it was all deflated. Then he said "Do you think I would actually do that? Do I look stupid?" And then put the balls over his eyes.

IronIc

02-11-2008, 07:44 AM

Hope you had a good weekend Hib!

Doctor called me at my house Saturday night! Said my cholesterol went way up. Then says I gained a lot of weight, lol. I went there in the beginning saying I can lose fat and feels like I have hormonal problems. That was back in July!

On the good side the hormone part of it is getting better. I did lose 4 pounds. Actually I had lost 9 but gained 5 back Super Bowl weekend. He wants to put me on Lipitor. I don't want it! I am going to tell him Monday I want to get it back to normal with diet and exercise now that the hormone thing is headed in the right direction.

I'll be doing the same. Lots of cardio and short heavy weight routines. 45 minutes today for 660 calories. I want to do that everyday now.
OMG Bob - unless you absolutely can't get your cholesterol down, avoid the statins like the plague. I know so many people who had horrible muscle pain from taking them :eek:

Good for you, for being proactive! :D

namtrag

02-11-2008, 08:41 AM

Bob, don't do the lipitor!

Man, I hope you and I can get our blood chemistry straight again.

Bob45

02-11-2008, 09:31 AM

OMG Bob - unless you absolutely can't get your cholesterol down, avoid the statins like the plague. I know so many people who had horrible muscle pain from taking them :eek:

Good for you, for being proactive! :D

Thanks so much. I just called an hour ago and said I didn't want it.

Bob, don't do the lipitor!

Man, I hope you and I can get our blood chemistry straight again.

Now that my hormone levels are straightening out things are happening. I'll be fine very soon. The Estradiol is th eone to get checked. It took since last July for me to get that started. It's down from 39 to 33. I want it at 20. That E2 binds up the T.

SR800

02-11-2008, 09:35 AM

Glad to hear things are getting better on the hormone front!

Bob45

02-11-2008, 09:48 AM

Glad to hear things are getting better on the hormone front!

No more girlie man soon!

Bob45

02-11-2008, 07:12 PM

45 minutes on the arc trainer for 650 calories burned. My shoulder has been bothering me from a tetanus shot. Maybe some weights tomorrow.

Bob45

02-13-2008, 02:42 PM

Today was clearing snow for cardio. Did sets of 5 up to 235 for BP and did some close grip bp's and curls. I'm going to slowly work more lifting in now that the fat is finally dropping for me.

namtrag

02-13-2008, 03:04 PM

45 minutes on the arc trainer for 650 calories burned. My shoulder has been bothering me from a tetanus shot. Maybe some weights tomorrow.

I bet the snow shovelling worked the soreness out!!

I am doing the arc trainer too. Do you think it really burns that many calories? I went about 2.8 miles in one hour, at a heart rate of about 138, and it said I burned 893 calories. Walking 2.8 miles would burn about 300 calories, tops. I just don't see how we could burn that much more on an ARC trainer.

Bob45

02-13-2008, 03:06 PM

I bet the snow shovelling worked the soreness out!!

I am doing the arc trainer too. Do you think it really burns that many calories? I went about 2.8 miles in one hour, at a heart rate of about 138, and it said I burned 893 calories. Walking 2.8 miles would burn about 300 calories, tops. I just don't see how we could burn that much more on an ARC trainer.

I've mentioned that before. I don't think it burns as much as it says. It makes you feel like you did a lot when that number is high. I like speedometers that read high too.