Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[spectre226]

Im 24, 6' 219lbs. In two weeks from starting cardio at the gym and eating healthier, I lost 10lbs, from 230. Im starting Hardcore as soon as it comes in. Im looking forward to giving it a shot, but I would not stay on it more than 8-12 weeks. If you want to stay on a "fat-burner", cycle between two or three different kinds.

[zxGriffin]

Only been on hardcore for a little over a week now, started out 4 pills a day, now up to full 6 pills. Don't feel tremendously differant from the Caffeine, just a little more energy. I will see how at it fairs after a month in bodyfat loss during my cut.

[unassailable]

Scorch or Melting Point

Thanks yall

Aaron

[Craigy 07]

im new to the site and want sum help plz i want too loose weight around my abs so i can build a six pac etc and be nice and toned but at the same time i want to gain muscle i have metacel and take the right dosages each day any other tips or any other supplements i can take to help me loose weight fast??????

[Syberkriminal]

im new to the site and want sum help plz i want too loose weight around my abs so i can build a six pac etc and be nice and toned but at the same time i want to gain muscle i have metacel and take the right dosages each day any other tips or any other supplements i can take to help me loose weight fast??????

I'm fairly new to taking suppliments of this sort as well, but one thing I do know is that if you wanna have a six pack, you HAVE to watch what you eat. For your abs to show, you have to have a really low bodyfat percentage. A strict exercise and diet will get you there. "Suppliments" are exactly that. Meant to suppliment what you are already doing.

[NoobyBuilder]

I'm fairly new to taking suppliments of this sort as well, but one thing I do know is that if you wanna have a six pack, you HAVE to watch what you eat. For your abs to show, you have to have a really low bodyfat percentage. A strict exercise and diet will get you there. "Suppliments" are exactly that. Meant to suppliment what you are already doing.

you cant base a whole diet around supplement taking....thats ridiculous.
you need your diet first...and supplements can help ADD what your not able to receive. i eat 7-8 meals a day, i try to get in 250-300grams of protein a day. so pretty much 50+ grams a meal. and im not eating 8 steaks a day :o)
get a diet down before supplements...

[NoobyBuilder]

Only been on hardcore for a little over a week now, started out 4 pills a day, now up to full 6 pills. Don't feel tremendously differant from the Caffeine, just a little more energy. I will see how at it fairs after a month in bodyfat loss during my cut.

4pills? 6 pills? damn... i only did 3...

[jench]

No one talk anymore of animal cuts??

Seems that the best are : hydroxycut hardcore (yohimbe seems to be really effective but when you are a bit anxious, this make it worse)

scorch is great too stacked with vaporize (3 times 2 caps a day)

[Lawn Man]

No one talk anymore of animal cuts??

Seems that the best are : hydroxycut hardcore (yohimbe seems to be really effective but when you are a bit anxious, this make it worse)

scorch is great too stacked with vaporize (3 times 2 caps a day)


i took cuts and lots 24 lbs in 7 weeks!!!!

[fhees]

I lost 5pounds of fat in 3 week excellent fatburner!San product are very good!

[SuBSe7eN]

I would go for Muscletech's Hydroxycut Hardcore (ephedra free)

I'm using it since January this year and get good results with proper diet and exercise.

[jench]

I've got my little idea about it but, just want a last tought:

Wich one?

1) Melting Point + Scorch + CLA + vaporize


2) Melting Point + Animal cuts + CLA + vaporize


3) Melting Point + Hydroxicut hardcore+ CLA + vaporize

No "interferences" between them?

(I know, several people doesn't find CLA usefull ;-))

[jench]

I've got my little idea about it but, just want a last tought:

Wich one?

1) Melting Point + Scorch + CLA + vaporize


2) Melting Point + Animal cuts + CLA + vaporize


3) Melting Point + Hydroxicut hardcore+ CLA + vaporize

No "interferences" between them?

(I know, several people doesn't find CLA usefull ;-))

No one? Any better idea?

[turbo271]

the most energy i ever got that was ephedra free was from that new ripped fuel. it made me feel crazy in a realy good way. th eonly down side was that some nights i wouldn't sleep at all.

thats the boring part, because there is nothing to do except go out. most places don't stay open all night.

[turbo271]

i still think hardcore is the best. no side effects

[vtaper]

Extreme Cutting Cycle for sure. You get a whole month supply with it and I got ripped. Definitely the best i've tried. It's by Nutrabolics.

[jench]

I've got my little idea about it but, just want a last tought:

Wich one?

1) Melting Point + Scorch + CLA + vaporize


2) Melting Point + Animal cuts + CLA + vaporize


3) Melting Point + Hydroxicut hardcore+ CLA + vaporize

No "interferences" between them?

(I know, several people doesn't find CLA usefull ;-))

No one tried a such kind stack? :-(

[sildojar]

hydroxycut hardcore, thermonex, lipo 6X

[Vietgoboi]

hydroxycut hardcore, thermonex, lipo 6X

take these in same days?

[shortdog]

Try NO Shotgun...helps burn fat & build muscle simultaneously

[s.morgan]

I'm taking Lipo6 + Vaporize

[Kimmi]

I've been using Animal Cuts for a few days now, and I just found out that "diuretics" are on the list of INBA's banned substances.

Animal Cuts has a "Diuretic Complex" that has the following:
Dandelion Extract (taraxol, taraxerol)
Uva Ursi Extract (arbutin, methyl-arbutin)

Now, I don't see these particular ingredients on the list of banned substances, but the list also says "and related substances".

I guess my question is if Animal Cuts is ok for a natural bodybuilding comp? does anyone know?
I have my first INBA competition this summer, and they are very strict with their testing.


Hi,

I would suggest that you contact the organization just to be on the safe side regarding those substances. Dandelion is commonly used among some of the natural athletes. And yes; the testing is strict. Best of luck at your first INBA!

[lild512004]

I was checking out NX Labs Rev XP Hardcore. Has anybody tried this?

[gountilfailure0]

actually i lost alot of weight myself just by diet and cardio when i lost it i experimented with some energy drinks and fat loss supplements and not many worked at all and all say diet and cardio with this product so they are telling what u need to do no need to buy it haha but endorush xtreme shock and redline were some good energy drinks xtreme shock being bestim trying a nutrabolic product clenbutical to see what it does

[lwyner]

I come off my ECA stack and started on LIPO 6, ephadra free. would definately recommend them. Have you thought about the fat loss cream by NUTRASPORT? This is also a top choice in my book!
does the fat-burner cream really work? seriously? how well?

[Feny]

ripped system... nxlabs... its legit

[nutritionman]

The best fat burner and appetite control is **** venom hyperdrive 3.0.. I take 1 caps in the morning and controls my appetite and stablize my blood sugar and put me energetic mode. I also take 1 caps in the afternoon before i do my cardio
and raises the temperture of my body so it helps mobilize the stubborn fat and also it's awesome natural dierutic and it gives me lot's of energy and i don't want to stop working out. I lost 12 pounds in 2 week with just taking 2 caps a day. i would recommend to everyone. Make sure you drink lots of water to stay hydrated..
nutritionman

[plaskowski2002]

i just ordered boiling point from star chem labs. everything in it looked pretty decent. ive been inpressed with there armageddon and eveloution X10. this will be my first time to cut fat. so first time for a fat burner. im 33 yrs 5'10 230 lbs. would love to loose about 15 pounds and hold on to as much mucle as i can. woud appreciate it. thanks

[superdrollover]

I have not found a single supp that did any better than the ckd and a mixture of aerobic and anaerobic exercise. But add in almost any thermogenic and your good to go.

[DFA]

Xenadrine EFX. I found this gave me the biggest energry buzz. then i added ECA with it and lost a retarded amount of fat an muscle and regret it. around 20 pounds.

[MALS_11_IYAOYAS]

coughIFOUNDSOMESCORCHINSTOCKcough

[benn105]

Primaforce Rage is great. I also like lipo-6!

[trueathlete]

HARD Nutrition's Shred X is the best fat burner I have ever taken. It is great for people who like to workout and for those who are not active. My sister has lost 20 pounds in one month with no excercise.. This product works!!!

[sildojar]

I finished my ECA ( 3months ) and I have lost over 14kg


2caps a day - 2X50mg efedrine, 2X100mg coffeine, 2X40mg asperine

[Kruton]

Anything with REAL hoodia in it is good, however I hear that their have been a few problems with people selling counterfeit hoodia

[ronq]

so how about lipo6x?

[fhees]

San tight hardcore and allmax rapid cuts are very good!

Is the new lipo 6 xtreme form nutrex good?

[NeedToBeBig]

I just ordered some, I hope it works better than other stuff.

IMO best ephedra free fat burner is diet and cardio.

[hardgainer421]

I've been using Thermogize for a few weeks now and been getting great result. I put on alot of weight this winter, muscle and fat, and Thermogize is helping me lose the fat but keep all the muscle. That is actually the specialty of thermogize, to help you keep all your muscle while you lose fat. It works.

[Duppy]

I've been using Thermogize for a few weeks now and been getting great result. I put on alot of weight this winter, muscle and fat, and Thermogize is helping me lose the fat but keep all the muscle. That is actually the specialty of thermogize, to help you keep all your muscle while you lose fat. It works.

Hey man where could I get that? The only thing I've been taking lately is Hydroxycut, I've lost about 13-15 lbs in the past month but I have a feeling that it is pumping up my metabolism so much that it kills off whatever I eat and then starts using muscle for energy

[all-i-need]

I've been lurking for awhile and am wondering if anyone here is from Canada or ordered supplements from the US with any customs troubles. It seems we don't have nearly the amount, brands or choices as in the US but I do not want to go to jail lol.

Anyone have any experience with this?

TIA

[jwil81490]

Im taking animal cuts. Down to 185 from 190 in since Saturday( 5 days)

w/ diet and running/lifting.

I like the weight loss, but damn, it takes me 2 or 3 hours to go sleep on these pills. It sucks

[craig07]

has anybody tried grenade aparently ther for times stronger than stacker 2s

[craig07]

whats better Ephedrine or ephedra or are they both the same

[wowitscody]

this **** is crazy i take it or wrestling and we have to lost weight fast and ill lose 10 in a week and i still feel healthy and not lose muscle

[BurgerPimp07]

Can anyone refer me to the ephedra free lipo6 on the bb.com store? I can't seem to find it. All I'm finding is the regular one.

[Beklet]

I just went to my local shop for an ECA stack, but the usual chap wasn't there - just some gym bunny who had no clue what i was on about!
Went to the other shop and he had the Hydroxycut Hardcore in - he'd been sent the US version, instead of the slightly wimpier Euro version, and he says it was too strong for him at full dose, but it works well.

So I'll take one before my workout in an hour or so, and we'll see what happens...

[Blitz n destroy]

Can anyone refer me to the ephedra free lipo6 on the bb.com store? I can't seem to find it. All I'm finding is the regular one.

There is no ephedra lipo6 version in the store...what you see is what you get...ephedra free lipo 6

[zkid002]

What exactly is Ephreda, and what is the difference if the fat burner has it or not? Does the fat burner work better with it or without it?..also which is safer?..thanks in advance if you answer these questions.

[BurgerPimp07]

There is no ephedra lipo6 version in the store...what you see is what you get...ephedra free lipo 6

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutrex/lipo6.html

That is the regular one that contains effedra. The ephedra free one says so on the label but is not on bb.com. http://www.nutrex.com/lipo6ef.html#

[saltire001]

I had been using Lipo 6. I ended up at Walmart somehow and wanted to check out what type of supplements they had as I didn't even know that they carried some major brands. I was browsing through and came across a couple of carts with all sorts of fat burners in them. All of the following were 5 bucks a bottle as they were getting rid of some brands they no longer will carry so it might be the same at Walmart's around the country:

Redline (60), Hot Rox (72), Xenadrine Super Hardcore (36), Xenadrine 8 hour Energy (60). They only had 4 Hot Rox and 9 Redline's left so I grabbed them all ;) Expirations vary from late 2008 to 2010. I also bought 5-6 bottles of the other ones as well just to try them out sometime. They had 4-5 other brands too that I really didn't care for so I didn't touch those..

I'm getting shoulder surgery at the end of the month so I'll be using some fat burners until I can get back to weights and then for probably a few months more :(

It might be worth checking to see whether they might have anything on clearance..

[zkid002]

What exactly is Ephreda, and what is the difference if the fat burner has it or not? Does the fat burner work better with it or without it?..also which is safer?..thanks in advance if you answer these questions.

^^^^^^^^^

[ZDub212]

What exactly is Ephreda, and what is the difference if the fat burner has it or not? Does the fat burner work better with it or without it?..also which is safer?..thanks in advance if you answer these questions.

Look it up on Wikipedia. A fat burner is safer without it...a fat burner can be more effective with it.

[tosca]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutrex/lipo6.html

That is the regular one that contains effedra. The ephedra free one says so on the label but is not on bb.com. http://www.nutrex.com/lipo6ef.html#

this looks ephedra-free to me. bb.com does not sell ephedra of anykind. hallucinegenics and fat burners dont mix well, fyi.

[thebasil]

Anybody know why scorch is always out of stock?

[phillepe]

Has anyone else tried Tight Hardcore? I have it and I like it more than lipo6. No caffine crashes, no shakeiness, and it makes me not want to eat at all. I've lost maybe 8lbs pretty quick.

[BIG CHUCKY]

Has Anyone Tried Six Star Muscle Fuel Rapid Lean Professional Strength. I Have Been On It About 30 Days And With That And Upping My Cardio I Have Lost About 21 Pounds.

[projectpat06]

i been taking vpx redline and dietex for a little over 2 weeks and lost about 10 lbs so far doing cardio 4 times a week...the dietex has helped me alot because i have had a hard time watching wat i eat and eating a ****load more than i needed to, but it seems to have helped alot with my appetite...with the no shotgun, im lovin this so far.

[stoptherun51]

DNP lol

[BIG CHUCKY]

Call Me A Dumb Ass But What Is Dnp?

[sdthunder001]

Anybody know why scorch is always out of stock?
Supply and demand. When the demand is more than the supply then said supply is depleted. Simple economics. It sucks too, I have wanted to order some more but can't due to that reason.

[MALS_11_IYAOYAS]

Supply and demand. When the demand is more than the supply then said supply is depleted. Simple economics. It sucks too, I have wanted to order some more but can't due to that reason.


Because BB is the only store in the world where Scorch is sold...

[sgt_1982]

lipo 6 the original was great my old training partner used it and it cut him up more than he wanted and i heard the new lipo 6 is even better. needless to say it works so if you are worrying about ripoff supplements you can not worry about lipo 6 bcause you will get good results if you eat and workout properly while using it.

[thebasil]

Because BB is the only store in the world where Scorch is sold...

ive actually checked a few sites a while ago and i couldnt find it, or it was above 40 bucks :/

[Miklitt]

Hydroxycut Hardcore

[Kurt Hustle]

Anybody know why scorch is always out of stock?

Ive tried ordering a second bottle..and can't seem to find any place with it in stock. I was told by My Supplements.com that it is pretty much on perm backorder...they said they haven't been able to get any in 6 months but MAN keeps promising that it will arrive soon.

[sdthunder001]

Because BB is the only store in the world where Scorch is sold...
No You could just go straight through Man if you want to pay almost double. Many other supplement "stores" online carry it as well, but just like BB.com they are also out of stock.

[pureenergy]

Lipo-6, Hydroxycut, and Ripped Fuel.. don't stand a chance next to DCP or Burn3d. It's literally throwing away your money... I've tried so many fat burners since 1999... and TTA supplements are the creme of the crop.

[MALS_11_IYAOYAS]

No You could just go straight through Man if you want to pay almost double. Many other supplement "stores" online carry it as well, but just like BB.com they are also out of stock.


....I was being sarcastic.

[Justfit29]

I got turned on to thermolean by a local store. Read the ingredients - same basic stuff as Lipo-6 but more of each ingredient and several other added. I lost 5 lbs. in 2 weeks. Way better than anyhting else I have used: Lipo-6, Hydroxycut Hardcore, Dymatreme Xtreme, Tight....Damn, how long do I have to diet for ????

[Justfit29]

Di nitro phinol (spelled wrong I'm sure). It is a fertilizer used in the 1930's for weight loss. It works real well but oh, IT CAUSES CANCER.

[jench]

Lipo-6, Hydroxycut, and Ripped Fuel.. don't stand a chance next to DCP or Burn3d. It's literally throwing away your money... I've tried so many fat burners since 1999... and TTA supplements are the creme of the crop.

TTA + SESAMIN rules

[ab-swing asianbabe]

TTA + SESAMIN rules
DCP with sesamin is indeed a great non-stim fat loss stack.

[Conciliator]

Di nitro phinol (spelled wrong I'm sure). It is a fertilizer used in the 1930's for weight loss. It works real well but oh, IT CAUSES CANCER.WTF are you talking about? No, it was never a fertilizer and no, it's not considered carcinogenic. Terrible post.

[lilkao]

i have been takin this pills that helped me increase fat burning.
this pills are basically like a mix of different herb extracts(Green tea,caffeine, coccoa seed and others) that help increase fat burning.
Its called "RIPPED FUEL EXTREME" by "TWINLAB"

[bballa339]

can someone please tell me wahts wrong with hydroxycut? is it a waste of money? why?

[tosca]

can someone please tell me wahts wrong with hydroxycut? is it a waste of money? why?

because when you have tried many, you have a good idea what works and what doesnt. for me it goes like this:

1) ECEGCG
2) Amp + Dialene 4
3) Scorch (bring on the raspberry ketone burps!)

[the joeSTAR]

NX Labs Methyl Ripped is the best in my opinion. It is an anti catibolic fat burner and has teh potency of a lipo 6x and hidroxycut hardcore.

[Pearson666]

Can someone suggest me an apettite suppresant along with a fat burner to stack with that works?

I've got a huge apettite all the time and it's difficult to cut. Thanks!

[deckstrom]

I bought Lipo 6 yesterday and will start on it on Monday...I will give you all updates. I took the advice of this tread and I hope the results are good.

For any of you that have taken Lipo 6...any advice on side affects, or when to take it properly or what not would be greatly appreciated!!

[War Machine]

Di nitro phinol (spelled wrong I'm sure). It is a fertilizer used in the 1930's for weight loss. It works real well but oh, IT CAUSES CANCER.


I thought DNP was a pesticide? I havn't thought of it for 5-6 years but from what I can remember...

"The Guru" Dan Duchaine ran several experiments with it. He found stories of the guys who worked with the stuff would rapidly lose weight and maintain lean mass, so of course his inner hardcore bodybuilder freaked. It was decided that it could raise a persons core tempeture so that basically you body thought it was working out even if you weren't. ie- benefits of exercise without doing any. Good right?

Wrong, it turned out the effective dose and the lethal dose were reaaly close to being the same thing. So if a person took too much (which was easy to do) they would effectivly have their own body cook themselve from the inside out. Imagine how a massivly high fever would damage your organs....

So he gave up on it as a serious fatburner do to the danger.

Like I said, most of this is from memory of some Muscle magazine 5-6 years ago (just before Dan died). I'll search to see if I can find validation.


edit: found validation - http://www.dnp-resource.com/

[Conciliator]

I thought DNP was a pesticide? I havn't thought of it for 5-6 years but from what I can remember...

"The Guru" Dan Duchaine ran several experiments with it. He found stories of the guys who worked with the stuff would rapidly lose weight and maintain lean mass, so of course his inner hardcore bodybuilder freaked. It was decided that it could raise a persons core tempeture so that basically you body thought it was working out even if you weren't. ie- benefits of exercise without doing any. Good right?You don't take DNP to raise your core temperature. You make it a point when taking it to keep your core temperature in the normal range. DNP increases metabolic rate by making energy production less efficient. This has been likened by some to constant, low-level, steady-state cardio. You ask "Good right?". The answer is yes, in that regard it burns fat better than anything else available.

Wrong, it turned out the effective dose and the lethal dose were reaaly close to being the same thing. So if a person took too much (which was easy to do) they would effectivly have their own body cook themselve from the inside out. Imagine how a massivly high fever would damage your organs....The therapeutic index for DNP is relatively low, but if you know what you're doing, you've really got to mess up to take enough to kill you. The lethal dose is probably 4-6 times the therapeutic dosage. That's a relatively small factor, but still a big factor to mess up by. The primary reason DNP was taken off the market was because of cataracts, not because of overdoses. Death from overdose is very rare.

So he gave up on it as a serious fatburner do to the danger.If you have any references for this, I'd like to see them. I haven't heard this before.

[infernomuscle2012]

I'd have to say Hydroxycut Hardcore worked for me, still is, amazing feeling when lifting heavy, and the fat burn is killer, def helped get the abs popping out. I am on a low cycle of LIPO-6, not as a effective for the heavy weights as hydroxycut but def leans u out well. Either one I'd recommend depending on goals.

[tRaNs]

I thought DNP was a pesticide? I havn't thought of it for 5-6 years but from what I can remember...

"The Guru" Dan Duchaine ran several experiments with it. He found stories of the guys who worked with the stuff would rapidly lose weight and maintain lean mass, so of course his inner hardcore bodybuilder freaked. It was decided that it could raise a persons core tempeture so that basically you body thought it was working out even if you weren't. ie- benefits of exercise without doing any. Good right?

Wrong, it turned out the effective dose and the lethal dose were reaaly close to being the same thing. So if a person took too much (which was easy to do) they would effectivly have their own body cook themselve from the inside out. Imagine how a massivly high fever would damage your organs....

So he gave up on it as a serious fatburner do to the danger.

Like I said, most of this is from memory of some Muscle magazine 5-6 years ago (just before Dan died). I'll search to see if I can find validation.


edit: found validation - http://www.dnp-resource.com/



is reliable www.dnp-resource.com ?

[Conciliator]

is reliable www.dnp-resource.com ?No, is not reliable.

[korexite]

No, is not reliable.


I would be concerned about the quality of most DNP, since its mainly produced for pesticide and dye use. I dont think they are all that concerned about purity.

do they even have a USP standard for it?


I have used it, but I am just saying :)

[Conciliator]

I would be concerned about the quality of most DNP, since its mainly produced for pesticide and dye use. I dont think they are all that concerned about purity.

do they even have a USP standard for it?

I have used it, but I am just saying :)I don't think DNP is mainly produced for pesticide and dye use anymore. It's not too environmentally friendly. Assays are given by individual chem manufacturers and purity is usually high (>97%), except for a few sources like ScienceLab.com.

As for USP, I don't think they have any standards for DNP purity, but they do have general standards for the accuracy of doses.

Hope that helps,
Conc

[RemainDieHard]

this looks ephedra-free to me. bb.com does not sell ephedra of anykind. hallucinegenics and fat burners dont mix well, fyi.

BB.com does sell this ephedra product... as far as I know it is legit and is a technical loophole?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vl/ephedra.html

BTW which ingredient is a hallucinagen?

[CognitiveNutrition]

DCP hands down.

[RemainDieHard]

That DCP has salvia? The same **** you can buy and smoke?

Sounds weird, I'll check it out because I keep hearing about it.

[steve009]

would CLA be considered a fat burner? i heard it is suppose to reduce your bodyfat % 1-2 percet over a year while maintaining your lean mass. any feedback?

[will-work4ANDRO]

would CLA be considered a fat burner? i heard it is suppose to reduce your bodyfat % 1-2 percet over a year while maintaining your lean mass. any feedback?

they really need more research, but it doesn't appear to be as effective in humans as it seems to be in rats.

[steve009]

thanks man. anyone have any personal feedback?

[dsade]

That DCP has salvia? The same **** you can buy and smoke?

Sounds weird, I'll check it out because I keep hearing about it.

DCP contains Salvia Miltiorrhiza, a DGAT inhibitor. The one you are thinking of is Salvia Divinorum, which is a halluconigenic.

[cfaulk]

lots of cardio, and lipo 6 should be sufficient, but you gotta watch out becauswe when i take it can't sleep!

[justin6683]

LIPO-6 the new liquid caps are great!! i dont crash off them and i feel good for a while.. without feeling all wirey and cracked out.. i take them a few weeks before a photoshoot with some waterloss pills usually mhp's xpel and i get cut for my pics but i feel soft and weak while im on them..

[Bobbo22]

Just started dieting a few days ago, and i was wondering what would some off you reccomend me to take to help shredd the extra pounds? Im totally lost when it comes to fat loss pills.

[dsade]

Just started dieting a few days ago, and i was wondering what would some off you reccomend me to take to help shredd the extra pounds? Im totally lost when it comes to fat loss pills.

You need to be more specific about your own stats: weight, bodyfat percentage, diet, workout routine, cardio, etc.

This will help gauge which fat burner will be most effective for you.

[ab-swing asianbabe]

DCP hands down.

DCP is no joke.

[gountilfailure0]

what company makes this dnp

[dsade]

what company makes this dnp

Recomp Performance Nutrition makes DCP. Much preferrable to dnp. :)

[rabe]

lipo 6 or lipo6x

anyone have a preference if the new lipo6x is better?

[hardgainer786]

I took AllMax Rapid Cuts Hardcore and it really changed my life...
I loved it.. lost about 15 pounds of fat in 8 weeks..
I noticed the results on the very first week...
i been working out for the past 4 years but wasn't able to loose the extra fat that was over my muscles... thnx to God and Rapid Cuts.. and also to the builder who recommended it...
i am using Lipo 6 now... it kind of worked but as much as Rapid Cuts...
Next stack for me is Scorch+melting point...
I dont' care about the cost as long as great results...
millions buck are nothing infront of the cardio and hard work that i do in the GYM>>>>>
Diet is very important as well as enough rest..
thanks....

[justin6683]

i like the new lipo6x the time released ones.. oh and the asian girl from down under is cute :) the girls there are wild.. sorry a lil off topic..

[ab-swing asianbabe]

i like the new lipo6x the time released ones.. oh and the asian girl from down under is cute :) the girls there are wild.. sorry a lil off topic..
Oh, who?

[gountilfailure0]

lol;

[ranestorm]

I've been active most my life - martial arts and rugby. Due to moving to a state that played very little rugby for 3 years, my fitness has reduced and my waistline expanded.

Moving back to Texas, I am trying to get back into the swing of things but am finding the weight to be a hinder - I am eating sensibly and trying to work out regularly. Also, a knee injury is not helping.

What supplement(s)/thermogenic(s) would you suggest to help kick-start my effort so that I can be ready for the nexy rugby season?

[ab-swing asianbabe]

What has been your past experience with fat burners/thermos?
Are you sensitive to stimulants at all?

[ranestorm]

What has been your past experience with fat burners/thermos?
Are you sensitive to stimulants at all?

I did use Hydroxycut and Xenadrine a few years back when they both still contained Ephedra - From what I recall, neither caused me concern.

[ab-swing asianbabe]

Oh ok, if you like stims, I suggest AMP or leviathan, they give clean energy and a boost in the gym. You could also stack it with DCP (non-stimulatory) which would aid in nutrient partitioning and fat loss, even if your diet is sometimes sub-par.

[ranestorm]

Oh ok, if you like stims, I suggest AMP or leviathan, they give clean energy and a boost in the gym. You could also stack it with DCP (non-stimulatory) which would aid in nutrient partitioning and fat loss, even if your diet is sometimes sub-par.

Thanks for the info. Where's the best place to purchase these? I did a GOOGLE search on AMP and DCP and found nothing so far... I really do not want to gain any bulk, but lose the fat - will these products aid in this goal?

[gountilfailure0]

asian babe u seem pretty confident on the dcp:)

[xcheese12x]

Im 16, and im a high school wrestler. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go for me... i need to lose 20-25 pounds by the beginning of the season. currently i take whey proteina and i am starting to add NO explode before workouts. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go

[ab-swing asianbabe]

Thanks for the info. Where's the best place to purchase these? I did a GOOGLE search on AMP and DCP and found nothing so far... I really do not want to gain any bulk, but lose the fat - will these products aid in this goal?

You can get them at the bb.com store here, check out the writeups, these are fat burners/recomposition tools

DCP
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/rpn/dcp.html
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=971359

AMP
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/amp.html

[GeneGnomeX]

they really need more research, but it doesn't appear to be as effective in humans as it seems to be in rats.

There is a recent meta-analysis on humans which is positive. There is more human research than you think

[hardgainer786]

Im 16, and im a high school wrestler. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go for me... i need to lose 20-25 pounds by the beginning of the season. currently i take whey proteina and i am starting to add NO explode before workouts. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go

IF u wanna loose weight then NO Explode and Whey proteins are not to loose weight!!..
I am on Lipo 6 and it is a decent fat burner..
but i would recommend to get Allmax Rapid Cuts... it is great..
try fat burners and do cardio and proper diet miss wrestler

[rabe]

IF u wanna loose weight then NO Explode and Whey proteins are not to loose weight!!..
I am on Lipo 6 and it is a decent fat burner..
but i would recommend to get Allmax Rapid Cuts... it is great..
try fat burners and do cardio and proper diet miss wrestler

Extra protein never hurt anyone

[jpetitclerc]

I've been taking Lipo 6X for a couple of days only... already seen results. (=

[mk53220]

How do Super Cuts and Animal Cuts compare?

[amrk47]

im on my 3rd day with animal cuts
i like it!

[deckstrom]

I have been on Lipo 6 for about a week and have already lost a pound and a half. I know it doesnt sound like a lot but I think it gives you that extra push when you hop on the scale and see that you are losing.

Although I just took half the dose the first week, now I am taking the full dose so I should be seeing results even more.

[DrWB]

for all those who use ECA stack. how do you get the ephedrine?

DrWB

[shimmy825]

I just started taking the Lipo 6 yesterday, what does your diet look like? Have you ever taken any other ephedra free fat burners?

[sarahalyse]

I took Lipo 6 for about 7 weeks. I did lose a little bit of weight (about 5 lbs total) but my diet and my workouts were on point. I liked the kick it gave me in the morning but I didn't feel like it did much for me other than that. I went thru 2 bottles and wouldn't waste my money on the thrid.

I've been off of it for about a week now and I'm going to try CL Red Acid Gen 2.

[bigmac901]

Im 16, and im a high school wrestler. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go for me... i need to lose 20-25 pounds by the beginning of the season. currently i take whey proteina and i am starting to add NO explode before workouts. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go

Not sure about the Lipo-6 but the NO explode is not a good idea if you want to loose weight. Just stick with the protein.

[virtuazoso]

I just received a bottle of scorch from bb.com and I think it's the old formula, the one with PEA and isobutyrl thiamine disulfide but no Xanthinol Nicotinate and Coleus Forskholii like the new apparently has. Does anyone know if this version is good, or is it less effective, safe, etc?

[suspek24]

Redline is still my favorite energy/fat burner, because it tastes great and works and the new Xtreme actually has beta alanine in it. What?!?! That's tight.

http://redlinerush.com/

[long101]

Another what Should I do question...
I lift about 4-5 days a week have a half way decent diet it could be a lot better but its real hard for me to stick to a strick diet. Im at about 195 and im 5 9 but I have a pretty decent amount of muscle. I am starting to gain more weight in my waist right now im squeezing into my old 34 inch waist and prolly should be wearing a 36. I want to drop about 20 lbs ish. I tried zantrex for a few days but i got pretty sick. So im gonna try just one pill before work outs and see if it does anything for me. Any suggestions? Thanks!

[jkali471]

VPX's REDLINE formula is very popular and very effective. Available in RTD and pill form, the effects are felt instantly!

[tosca]

I just received a bottle of scorch from bb.com and I think it's the old formula, the one with PEA and isobutyrl thiamine disulfide but no Xanthinol Nicotinate and Coleus Forskholii like the new apparently has. Does anyone know if this version is good, or is it less effective, safe, etc?

dude that sucks. i would ask for a refund or replacement. not that the old version is that bad, but the new version is that good. i ordered mine probably three weeks ago and got the new version.
go talk to "definition danielle" or "body building bob" or "work out willy" or "big bicep billy" or "free basin fred" oh wait, thats a different forum.

[tosca]

I just started taking the Lipo 6 yesterday, what does your diet look like? Have you ever taken any other ephedra free fat burners?

you might want to stop taking lipo 6 immediately. guggelsterones are not your friend.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=466547&highlight=issue

[ab-swing asianbabe]

Another what Should I do question...
I lift about 4-5 days a week have a half way decent diet it could be a lot better but its real hard for me to stick to a strick diet. Im at about 195 and im 5 9 but I have a pretty decent amount of muscle. I am starting to gain more weight in my waist right now im squeezing into my old 34 inch waist and prolly should be wearing a 36. I want to drop about 20 lbs ish. I tried zantrex for a few days but i got pretty sick. So im gonna try just one pill before work outs and see if it does anything for me. Any suggestions? Thanks!
You could try AMP, Leviathan and DCP pre-workout, but you have to fix your diet to gain the full benefits. Maybe add in a bit of cardio too.

[XAU]

you might want to stop taking lipo 6 immediately. guggelsterones are not your friend.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=466547&highlight=issue

20 mg per serving is it harmful? Why the FDA didn't ban pills with guggel?

[tosca]

20 mg per serving is it harmful? Why the FDA didn't ban pills with guggel?

honestly, i would say yes. considering what i have read so far i would avoid any amount. and it isnt in the FDAs job description to approve or disapprove fat burners and the ingredients included, because they fall into the category of dietary supplements.

[cranksteR]

Isnt this a threat about EPHEDRA FREE Fat Burners ??


What about that normal Hydroxycut i bought in WalMart ? ist it good?
already got it but not used it yet.

[RCD3]

I lift Mon., Wed., and Fri., and I run every other day of the week. I try to alternate my exercises to achieve the best result but have not had much success in burning off fat. I was wondering which products would help to give me the best results. Any information would be much appreciated.
Thanx in advance.

[MaurerPower]

I've read through the many pages of this forum topic and have decided that knowing what i'm putting in me is the best way to go. Since I live in Canada and Ephedrine, Caffeine, and Aspirin are all easy to get, That's the way I wanna go. My dilemma is this, what doses have people that use this stack tried? Did they work well? I'm 6'0 and mid-180 lb range. Fit(play lots of football competitively). My only previous supplement experience was during college football days with steroids and the like. Now I'm trying to lean out for my sports (no desire to go the roids road again).

From what I've read 25mg of Ephies 4 times a day, a couple aspirin once a day, and some magical dose of caffiene 3 times a day seems to work for most people around 200 lbs. This amount of ephedrine seems high though. lol, would I end up having a heart attack on the football field when I got hot? I know only me o my doctor could answer that with certainty, but I can't really ask him 'what most people take'.

Any ideas?

[kelso]

Ive been taking Lipo6 for about 3 weeks now.. I have finally broke a barriar Ive been trying to break for a long time. However I've also bettered my diet as well in the process and been hitting the gym a bit harder. After reading all the stuff about guggulsterones lately, Ive become a little worried although I dont notice any ill effects from it as of yet. Ive been reading/hearing good things about scorch, but was wondering what you guys might think. I have VERY slow metabolism, I some times joke that it doesnt exist.
Im 5' 10", weigh between 178- and 185 depending on the day, I need the extra help in getting rid of my love handles and some belly chub... I'm not fat by any means, but want so bad to trim up. I goto the gym 4 times a week, play softball twice a week. I consider myself fairly active but still cant get the results im looking for. The barriar i mentioned above was getting under 180.

Thanks in advance.
BTW: i dont have any issues with caffiene, i started with 4 a day of the lipo6 on day 2.. Also, like others have mentioned, I really like the boost before workouts in the morning.

[hardgainer786]

Isnt this a threat about EPHEDRA FREE Fat Burners ??


What about that normal Hydroxycut i bought in WalMart ? ist it good?
already got it but not used it yet.

the guy at supplement store told me that it's a waste of money... but it might work for you..
why don't you use Hydroxycut hardcore...

[russell70]

If you had to pick just ONE ephedra-free fat burning product, what would be the best one?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take fat burners, if you should take fat burners, or why some fat burners are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite fat burning product and give your detailed reason.)
I am trying Musclewerks DFine 8. So far this is very good at helping me lean up and control my hunger. This product seems to be doing what they say it will do.
Its hard to find and I have not heard any one talking about it.

[kelso]

after spending countless hours on these forums, searching, reading, studyin, I've come to the conclusion that the thermogenics dont work for alot of people. People swear by the EC stack, but me, since Im not a fan of Ephredrine, was looking to either stack scorch/vaperize, or try out the new N-Cinerate..
Been using Lipo 6 for almost a month, have a few days left and the only thing I can tell its done for me was skip past a plateau, and gives me enough juice to hit the gym at 6:00am.. other than that I haven't noticed much from it. If it wernt for the Guggulsterones, I'd prolly try the Lipo 6x..

[Johnsmatrix]

Ive been taking Lipo6 for about 3 weeks now.. I have finally broke a barriar Ive been trying to break for a long time. However I've also bettered my diet as well in the process and been hitting the gym a bit harder. After reading all the stuff about guggulsterones lately, Ive become a little worried although I dont notice any ill effects from it as of yet. Ive been reading/hearing good things about scorch, but was wondering what you guys might think. I have VERY slow metabolism, I some times joke that it doesnt exist.
Im 5' 10", weigh between 178- and 185 depending on the day, I need the extra help in getting rid of my love handles and some belly chub... I'm not fat by any means, but want so bad to trim up. I goto the gym 4 times a week, play softball twice a week. I consider myself fairly active but still cant get the results im looking for. The barriar i mentioned above was getting under 180.

Thanks in advance.
BTW: i dont have any issues with caffiene, i started with 4 a day of the lipo6 on day 2.. Also, like others have mentioned, I really like the boost before workouts in the morning.

I'm glad Lipo 6 worked for you. It was a GREAT appetite suppresent for me. I mean I really had to force myself to eat and would sometimes forget. The only side effect is that It made me kind of aggro.. kept wanting to pick fights with people.. constantly fought with my girlfriend. Emotions detached a bit. Wounded up flushin them down the toilet. Although now that I'm single I might try them again. Nothing beats a good hunger supressent.

[fRaGGiN]

Lipo6 is a really good product. It's helped me lose 30 pounds. It's not nearly as good as Ephedra when it was around... but it still helps!

When I take the product, I notice an increase of sweat when just doing normal activities. When I lift, I take it 30-45 minutes pre-workout, and it helps you sweat, and it feels like it helps my muscles get going.

[remix26]

anyone know what i should try?

im a football player looking to lose FAT, mostly around chest-abs-lower back.

dont wanna spend a lot..under $40 would be nice. i only really care about getting the stupid fat off but i dont wanna lose a ton of weight

im around 14-15% BF

i think i have a slight case of gyno btw..so anything that can help add with that or do i gotta buy aromasin or something?

[Esoteric-Amal]

Great post thx for the info.

[mlpelzel]

what about cybergenics quick trim?

[LadyGie]

Hydroxy cut Hard core

[jaybray1]

does the cream really work?

[vasforhustlers]

I've been taking Lipo 6 for a few weeks now and I must say that I'm a bit addicted. I'm not feeling that way because it helps me lose fat, which it really hasn't as far as I've noticed. I'm saying this because it enhances my mood a bit. It's not solely the caffeine, because other caffeine products don't give me the same feeling. It's like, I pop a pill before I go into work at 9:00am and I am in a good mood, working hard, excited, until about 3:00pm and then I'm close to dead. Then I take another one and I'm good until bedtime. I haven't lost anything or seen any fat loss since taking the product, but as an overall energy product I think it's great!

[Trinigal]

What happened to this product and does any one know where i can get some of this?

[Complex757]

So Lipo 6 is good? I read that it was mainly designed for women.

[Z. Peloso]

as of right now, gaspari's cytolean.

[Sportgrl24]

A friend of mine gave me a few of her T2 caps, I have been taking them along with Thermo-Lean before the gym and I have noticed a difference already in a couple weeks. I have lost 4 lbs!

[Musclemom41]

I used to compete and have tried every thermo out there! I have found it hard to find something good without ephedra; but my latest choice is Thermo-Lean. I don't get the jitters, but still get the energy to hit the gym, even at my age!

[FitMarie]

I have been working out now for the last year and have done awesome but reached a plateau and wanted to take my body to the next level by dropping a few more pounds. I have been using this T2 product along with my thermo-genic and sometimes with Thermo-Lean, the thermo made by the same company with it......point is, it works! Hit the cardio just throw this in, trust me.

[NewTrish]

My friend told me I could get ThermoLean from BB.com, where is it?

[kelso]

My friend told me I could get ThermoLean from BB.com, where is it?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sn/thermo.html

[skullraines]

I was hoping that someone might have some information about Noxycut, the web reviews says it is one of the best.

[kilim51]

Anyone seen/used this one before? http://www.supplements101.com/Pitbull_Lean_Xtrim_p/propitbull.htm

[BIG CHUCKY]

six star muscle fuel professional strength rapid lean is off the chain and very affordable as well

[coolmanbaker]

I was hoping that someone might have some information about Noxycut, the web reviews says it is one of the best.

I bought a bottle a few weeks ago. It won't perform miracles, but it does seem to be working. I've gotten a huge energy boost when I take one, my pants are looser (sorry, no measurements), and I've gotten compiments on my body. When I say energy boost, I mean a serious boost. The only other supplements I've ever taken were Xenedrine and Hydroxycut, and Noxycut is definately better than those...for me at least.

However I don't know about web reviews. I've only ever seen Noxycut mentioned in 2 places. One that lists a "Top 10 Fat Burners" which this board doesn't agree with at least, and the official Noxycut site is the other one. I've lost 10 lbs in the 3 weeks since I've used it, so take that for what it's worth.

[GetShredded]

I just got the red acid/blue up stack. I'll tell ya how it goes.

[coolmanbaker]

The Red Acid-Gen 2 is what I'm interested in. I'm considering starting a stack consisting of Red Acid-Gen 2, Green Bulge, and GlycerGrow. I'm read that this is great, but I just want to make sure that the Red Acid Gen 2 is a good fat burner to use.

[Macrobolic]

I know that it has had mixed reviews on this forum, but I really like NxLabs Methyl Ripped. It has worked well for me.

I also want to try Animal Cuts.

[Mutan142004]

I bought lipo 6x 4 days ago. So far after I take the first 2 pills in the morning I get an excellent energy boost and I have to actually FORCE breakfast down. The down side though, I'm not 100% if it?s the pills or the vaccination I got 3 days ago, but my regular 30 minute cardio run has just been horrible. Though I'm going to take the lipo 6x for another 2 weeks just incase it?s the vaccination doing. I'd recommend the lipo 6x pills for 3 reasons:
1. My appetite was definitely suppressed
2. I have more energy
3. The pills look cool:-P (lol)

[kilim51]

I too have started taking Lipo 6, it has just arrived from BB.com. I am having to take a forced break through my training from injury and have been recommended not wasting my money on taking it - but the appertite surpressing side of this alone will do me the world of good so I don't pig out while not doing anything. So far lots of energy too - I was expecting to be rushing and shaking like I did on HTX Extreme, but not quite. Plus ordering it from here is under half the price of in stores here inc p&p!!!

Next stop: MAN Scorch.

[BIG CHUCKY]

has anyone tried the rapid lean by six star?

[Macrobolic]

has anyone tried the rapid lean by six star?

sorry I haven't.

[kilim51]

3. The pills look cool:-P (lol)

The clear casing with the white goo in the middle? I thought mine were expired when I saw them! Ive never seen a clear cap before..!

[mattftw]

Allmax's Rapidcuts looks pretty good

[NewTrish]

I've been using this thermogenic called ThermoLean for about 6 months now and have seen awesome fat loss results. I recently threw in their latest metabolic enhancer with it and the pounds just keep dropping off. Not too "jacked-up", just energy!! Gotta try this stuff!!

Patricia
Kentucky

[kilim51]

Has anyone used the full dosage of Lipo 6? i.e. 3 servings of 2 caps a day? Results or comments?

[palanilopez12]

whatever happened to the opinions of products like man scorch...at one point it was top notch...i think everyone has forgotten about it because it had been out of stock for so long...and with the new formula it looks better then ever...anyone taken it have any opinions please post...as well as san tight hardcore

[Mutan142004]

The clear casing with the white goo in the middle? I thought mine were expired when I saw them! Ive never seen a clear cap before..!

Mine has the white goo surrounding a yellow small pill inside the pill

[Mutan142004]

Has anyone used the full dosage of Lipo 6? i.e. 3 servings of 2 caps a day? Results or comments?

Sounds like a lot of caffeine. I only take half the recommended dosage and still get results without the over dose caffeine.

[kilim51]

Mine has the white goo surrounding a yellow small pill inside the pill


Oh, you said Lipo 6X hehe I thought mine were missing something!!!

Scorch and Vaporize seem to be getting great feedback so thats next.

[joakman]

I am just actually getting off using RA2 for 3 weeks and have dropped 12 lbs and it has been incredible. No sides at all and no interference with sleep. Definitely worth a go. Cardio 2-3 times a week while on Bill Starr's routine at the final week of the RA2. I am playing baseball currently, so lifting hasn't been a big part as of yet. If anyone has questions about RA2 hit me up, works really well.

[mlred17]

I really like the Lipo 6. I've lost 10lbs while on it. It gives me alot of energy in the afternoon without keeping me up all night. I also use Inositol cause I read somewhere it was good for fat loss and the guy at the nutrition store said all the BB's were buying it. When I take the Inositol before bed it helps me sleep without making me groggy when I wake up.

[hardgainer786]

Allmax's Rapidcuts looks pretty good

That thing is really one in million.. worked very good for me.. loved it.. will be my next supplement too...

[dizzy0ny]

ThermoLean spammers...be gone!

anyone notice all the new users with just 1 or 2 posts pumping ThermoLean? Where are the admins when you need them?

[cfh1973]

I've been reading through quite a few pages and haven't seen Stimulant X in here yet. I used a bottle of it and was very impressed with the results. I barely ever weigh myself but I know my clothes fit looser and i look better. They are an awesome appetite suppresant as well. I have to force myself to eat meals. The energy from them was great at the start but tappered a little towards the end. That is the case with every fat burner I have ever taken though. I have taken a few weeks off them and am about to order my second bottle. Great stuff...

[Borup]

Im on my first ever cut. I have bought Hydroxycut Hardcore.. Was also the only one they had.
I have been on it 5 days now and have followed the diet that follows with the muscletech shredding stack. Im new so im doing as it is written:-)
I have allready gone down almost 5lbs. I new that is also water. It always is, but i still find it impressive.
Just remember to drink a lot of water and do cardio.

[bts]

hydroxycut hardcore

[alife epidemix]

Hey everyone, I was wondering if I could get some advise:

As of now I stand at 5'10" 175lbs, 18years old and I'm currently in the cutting phases after bulking up. I've got my diet down to 5-6 portioned meals per day (oatmeal, eggs, veggies, wheat bread, chicken/fish, some fruits, flaxseed oil, wheat germ, and multivitamin tabs). I weight train 4x a week at moderate to high intensity workouts and run anywhere from 5-6 miles on the alternate days. I'm going to be taking whey protein very soon, and would like to know a little bit from people that have taken hydroxycut hardcore. I'm looking to shed about 15lbs and lower my bf% as much as possible over hopefully the remainder of the year at least.

What I really want to know is if HH is the way to go and if it could be taken for my specific stats. After my first year in college...binge eating, junk food, et cetera have become a daily thing, and up until mid-may I turned that around. I've seen a lot of definition in my arms but as for my chest and abdominal area visible changes are minimal. So is HH a good way to go? Thanks a lot!

[PHATMD]

Try cutting out the wheat, replace with more complex carbs: yams, brown rice.The only time you really should be eating fruit is right after a cardio workout to replace carbs, otherwise you will just get a big insulin spike. Insulin inhibits fat metabolism.
Those supplements are expensive and they work for some but not others. I can't tell you how many "magic" pills I have in my cabinet. Try tweaking your diet more. Eat 6 meals a day, increase your cardio. If you really want to try a fat burner try something with yohimbine in it it's pretty potent. Good luck!

[kilim51]

I'm having some very positive results from Lipo 6. I have only been on it a week and a half - and for the last 3 days I have bumped it up to maximum dosage (2 pills 3 times a day) with no sleep problems. After comming of HTX Extreme which was like speed to me, I was kinda dissapointed by the lack of kick that L6 gave me so I upped the dosage (and partly because my MAN Scorch/Vaporize has arrived and I'm so keen to crack onto them!!!).

I don't weigh myself at all, just a photo diary, and the results are amazing. Especially because I'm out on an injury at the moment and can't do alot of anything! A good test for the supplements. However, I wouldn't recommend full dosage to everyone, and I'm a little more weary about the gugglesterones after some of the advice around here.

[03SilverSnake]

What does everyone think about this stuff? A friend of mine just ordered two bottles of it. I dont know much about and have heard MIXED reviews...

And i know nothing works if you take it and sit on your ass all day. LOL She is hitting the gym and watching what she takes in... so atleast if it's worthless the placebo effect will be in FULL swing lol. Thanks in advance

[NHBBareKnuckler]

IMO

Melting Point and Basic Cuts by Designer Supps.

They have pretty good board reps too.

[kilim51]

Posted these q's in the other forum but no replies so:

1# Just received my MAN Scorch + Vaporize stack (YAY!), but only half way through my Lipo 6 bottle (I'm also taking flax seed oil supps with this). Should I wait until I've finished up my L6 before taking the Vaporize so it's stacked with Scorch or will it be sweet to crack into it now, and put the flax seed oil's on hold?

#2 Also, is there a database or list of different versions of Scorch? Mine has the PEA and I.T.D and I'd like to know if it's the most recent product?

#3 ANyone know why Vaporize has 'Don't Sleep' on the bottle? It's not exaclty a stimulant so I don't quite get this!?

[ricekiller]

hydroxycut hardcore seriously is ridicolous only product i would ever buy made by muscle tech but it really does work i lost 30 pounds in 2 months and my bench went up 30 lbs....so it wasnt muscle i was losing

[BIG CHUCKY]

the six star rapid lean is designed exactly like the hydroxycut hardcore and in my opinion i got the same results from both. my older brother/part time trainer/nutritionist tookit and said it worked like the hardcore also maybe you will want to give it a try.

[raptis]

Im very fat, what should i do. I can't see my dick.

buy a mirror mate....

[depratercm]

I've been taken Metobolife Ultra for a couple months now, and see results too. At one time I stopped taken cause I wasn't sure it was working, I stopped losing weight.

I kept up my workout and eating habit, but the weight was just not coming off. Getting older sucks when it comes to metabolism, mine seemed to be in reverse most of the time.

I got back on Metabolife Ultra again and the weight started coming off, but hey everyone is different, I tried Hydroxycut & Xenadrine with no result, other have. Just have to find what works best for you!

[NeXMuScLe]

alli is being pushed real big
at all gnc's around here and
seems to be getting good reviews.

[coolmanbaker]

alli is being pushed real big
at all gnc's around here and
seems to be getting good reviews.

Only buy this product if you enjoy going to the bathroom alot and seeing what appears to be pizza grease coming out of your ass.

This happens even if you follow the "Alli Diet Plan" to a t. The fat that is blocked comes out as this. I didn't notice a difference, so the $60 price was definately not worth it.

[simpleguy]

Im very fat, what should i do. I can't see my dick.

woaw... is this a joke or not? if not, you better get yourself on a good nutrition program and do some heavy cardio

[jaybray1]

lipo 6. caffeine, asparin done deal!

[fabiolas4]

with all the money ive spent on supplements i couldve bought a nice old school caddy. nothing works for me and ive tried cleansers to start off. i still havent had the "privilage" in trying fen phen, ephedra, or any of those other hardcore goodies. if those dont work, then im assuming nothing is good. i still take protein shakes for bedtime snack though. (ones with no carbs/no, low sugar)
-fabz-

[takedownartist]

after using tons of fat burners trying to get that extra edge and drop the last few pounds nothing worked until i picked up the xenadrine super hardcore it is serious!!! You will get the shakes and youll be revved up foreal. Sometimes it will be hard to sleep even when youre tired and sometimes youll get a little nauseated. It feels almost like ephedra for me seriously its good stuff. Again ive tried the hydroxycut hardcore, lipo 6, and redline, ripped fuel and nothing compares to it, and my friends that tried it agree. and remember to eat right, DUH

[Colossal Spoons]

Just bought some Nutrex Lipo 6X today. Hopefully, I see some good results; I'll report back :)

[Justfit29]

Pro-rx thermolean is the best fat burner out there. I have done everything including ephedra based. Thermolean is the only one that actually makes you lose weight.

[kilim51]

Just bought some Nutrex Lipo 6X today. Hopefully, I see some good results; I'll report back :)


Just gotta say I was taking this when I was out of action a couple of weeks ago with a shoulder and knee injury. I burned a noticable amount, although I was actually taking the maximum dosage (2 pills 3 times a day) according to bb.com - which wasn't listed on the bottle. Taking a break from supps this week.

[Colossal Spoons]

^ Wow, 3x a day eh? You get any jitters? lol

[Cyknate]

I like Lipo I take 2 in the morning before work, and 2 before my workout + I drink Redline (grape).

I pretty much for the next 30-45 mins feel pretty hyper, looking to increase that, any suggestions are welcomed

[Hockeygawd]

ok, for future referance when im going into a cutting phase. is there any fat burners out there that can drop me from around a 5-8% BF to around 3%. my body is at around 5% right now, and accross my whole body u cant tell i have any fat, except my stomach. i have 5% but can can barely see my abs, and yes, i do have abs to be seen. so any real BF loss at this point would be off my abs. but i could use a little help when im at this point to get that last 2-4% off. i run, bike, swim, eat right, but i just need that little push to get me over the 5% hump.

[KalobC]

I am thinking about stacking a Green Tea extract, Bitter Orange, & Caffeine to shed excess BF. Anyone have any ideas to add to this.

[kilim51]

^ Wow, 3x a day eh? You get any jitters? lol


Nah not really. I started on the 2x a day but bumped it up to 3x just to try it. I had the first dose half an hour before either breakfast or my morning HIIT (around 6:00 am), then half an hour before lunch (11:30 am) then once more before training or walking home (4:30pm). Wasn't too harsh on the jitt's. Not like Hot Rox Extreme which felt like I had a 45 minute flu!

I'm currently on Scorch/Vaporize.

[joshy22]

Stack of Ephedrine and Man Scorch + vaporize or SciVation Sesamin,ALA, and NOW L-Carnitine. Worth the money you will lose alot of weight VERY VERY quickly. However, no amount of fatburners will work if you arent on a good diet. Exercise also helps of course!

[uhockey]

IMO

Melting Point and Basic Cuts by Designer Supps.

They have pretty good board reps too.

For the price it is TOUGH to beat. But Lean Xtreme 2.0 is pretty solid too!

[Colossal Spoons]

Anybody experiment with NxLabs Methyl Ripped?

[hemi426]

Lipo 6x works well for me........ now I want Atro-Phex........what such it works?????

[korexite]

alli is being pushed real big
at all gnc's around here and
seems to be getting good reviews.

ass spray and anal leakage are not sides I like, besides it only really helps if you are eating a lot of fat.


Of course it also stops utilization of healthy fats as well.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Keep a lookout for Lean Xtreme 2.0

BB.com should have it for sale soon, and there is currently a tester thread in the company promo section.

LX 2.0 has great potential to be a very effective fat burner.

[Colossal Spoons]

ass spray and anal leakage are not sides I like, besides it only really helps if you are eating a lot of fat.


Of course it also stops utilization of healthy fats as well.

Haha yeah. I work at GNC and I have to warn people about the anal leakage before they buy it. If not, they'd come back to return it pissed off and very embarrassed. :D

[thearm95]

What about a strong black (sugar free) coffee about 10-15 min before cardio. I'm about to start a cardio phase (along with weights) to get to <10% bf.
Where would you guys rank straight coffee as a fat loss supp. Reason is that it's cheap and I love it.

[littlemelissa]

So, of the three you just listed... which one would you recommend the most? Have you used these before?

[Raven2250]

hello to all . i hope i can provide some information about this product that may be useful to those who are interested on the topic .

this was the first weight loss products that i have tried with true success (the others were stackers and hydroxy cut hardcore) . upon starting these products i weighed in at an impressivly fat 270lbs (im 6'2") . within the first week i noticed that i gained some energy and was sleeping much better than i have before (thanks to the lean dreams) and saw no decrease in weight but i think that it was sort-of a "sink in" period for the pills to start balanceing the body(just a guess) , in the second week i noticed that i had on days forgotten to eat and from going from eating arround 3000 calories perday to eating about 600 perday (breakfast) i was loosing around a pound per day . this kept up for about two weeks before i noticed that i was getting rundown and feeling ill from having poor nutrition (even with a vitamin) . after this started i was having to force myself to attempt to eat two meals per day . also i have had some other negitive effects using these products , during work (in a welding and fabrication shop) the heat got to me very fast prompting me to take frequent breaks and consuming large quanities of water . and at one point (all my fault for taking them on a day when the temp was over 100 degrees) i almost passed out due to excessive heat . arround the one month period the fat loss started to increase (how much i dont know as i quit weighing myself ) then by the month and a half period i have lost 60lbs. (not healthy to loose soo quickly but it worked) i am now weighing in at 210 and have noticed an incredible increase in the way i feel about myself and have been happier ever since .

final thoughts .

i do reccomend this product , with this product you will have to force ur self to eat or at the end of the day u will realize you have eaten nothing .

i have no idea if these are typical results but it has proven very effictive

...
i hope that this may help those who have intrest in the topic

[kilim51]

^^ Thanks for that review - I'm looking to order VH3.0 soon but it's a kind of a toss up with Leviathan. I've read some side effects about shortness of breath - and with the cardio I do I cannot afford to experience this from a supp. I may just use it on my non-training days.

[jlm342000]

Should I continue to take protein if I start with a fat burner( I am considering animal cuts)? I want to maintain muscle and strength but drop about 10 pounds.
I am into jiu-jitsu/wrestling so I dont want to feel weak or lose much strength if possible. Is animal cuts a good choice???

[ab-swing asianbabe]

Should I continue to take protein if I start with a fat burner( I am considering animal cuts)? I want to maintain muscle and strength but drop about 10 pounds.
I am into jiu-jitsu/wrestling so I dont want to feel weak or lose much strength if possible. Is animal cuts a good choice???
Definitely keep your protein intake high

[chad2216]

Provided energy throughout the day and I lost 15 pounds in 3 weeks. Very little jitters.

[TxTreb88]

i've been using leviathan for a few months. by far the best weight loss supplement i've ever used.

[antikmusic]

I use MX-LS7 it has worked the best for without making me seem real jittery. I have used some others like ripped fuel but it didnt seem like anything could help me break my plataue. But The MX-LS7 has helped me to shed that extra five pounds I just couldnt get rid of.

[b.man.68]

hydroxcut hardcore has worked for me. i lost 7 pounds in 2 weeks while following my regular eating habits. i found that taking a sleep aid also helps due to the fact that i work rotating shifts at my job. i'm not calling it a wonder drug but it certainly has worked for me.

[merkutio69]

got my old version of man scorch off bb a few months back. used it sporadically here and there. first time, felt alright - bit of a buzz. second and subsequent times, didn't feel anything. actually, it made me REALLY sleepy. anybody else??

i've also tried AMP'd which i think makes me feel really good and focused, but it's a bit expensive. can't gauge if it helps cut fat that much, as my body fat is pretty low to begin with - just looking for something to really get me cut without losing a lot of muscle. suggestions?

[flexhoe]

The best supplement I've used to lose weight would have to be Hot Rox Extreme I tried the new lipo 6x and it usually just made me feel freaken weird. Hot Rox extreme also doesn't have quite so much caffeine so you wont get all jacked up, but at the same time itll give you a nice kick once you've taken it. So Hot Rox Extreme for me.

[Pure-Natural]

I have used Methyl Ripped w/ Sesamin & EFA added w/ a good diet & cardio- I had solid results.

[Buildin Muscle]

I've been taking hydroxcut hardcore for about 2 weeks now, have not seen any weight lose. At first the product made my stomach turn upside down but I got used to it. Here's how I take it:

1 in the morning (8:00) with my 2 cups of coffee
2 before lunch at 1:00 pm
1 before supper at 6:00 pm

Since I'm not feeling that effects or seeing the weight lose should I up the dosage?
How about taking aspirin with it? I'm not sure why people use aspirin with these products and would be interested to learn more.

[rmani]

guys are there any fat burners out there that actually help burn more fat? Most seem to be just energy stimulants (nothing more than taking ridiculous amounts of coffee and tea).

I'm trying to find a proven fat burner that will actually aide by body in destroying fat cells. Is this even possible?

What about any topical fat burners? I have a lot of fat (well a lot relative the rest of my body) underneath my arms and chest.

[marcus84]

Why was melting point discontinued? I loved that stuff.

[SimeonJ]

you can visit the site www.magicherbformula.com or http://www.magicherb.bigstep.com/

Hello.. I was looking through this site to try and find a good fat burner and saw that people were mentioning magicherb... I've heard a ton of good things about magicherb so i tried it myself and lost 15lbs in two weeks! I was excersizing everyday, but i couldn't believe how well it helped me lose the weight! I usually have a ton of trouble losing it from my stomach area but i noticed some huge improvements in those two weeks. I'm deffinately still on it, and hoping to lose about 10 more lbs in the next couple weeks.

Thanks for mentioning it!

BTW: www.magicherb.com is the same thing as www.magicherb.bigstep.com

magicherbformula.com didn't work for me so....... i order from www.magicherb.com, and their shipping is pretty fast.

They are doing a results promotion type thing where if you lose weight and send in your pics and they choose to put your results on the page, they give away free bottles... I think i'm going to be doing that, so look for my pics!

Good Luck everyone!
SimJ

[GarettM]

I was hoping that someone might have some information about Noxycut, the web reviews says it is one of the best.


First of all, the claims made by Noxycut -- lose weight AND build muscle at the same time, -- are physiologically contradictory. You see, losing weight requires a caloric deficit. Building muscles requires a caloric surplus. Although some advanced high intensity exercise programs claim otherwise it's almost impossible to accomplish both at the same time. Don't touch that stuff.... It won't do anything but burn a hole in your pocket.

[GarettM]

I'm thinking about trying an ECA stack with Vasopro since nothing else seems to give me the real boost. I never tried ephedra when it was around though. I'm not sure if an ECA stack would be best. I usually do 45min - 1 hour of cardio then do free weights and other activities depending on the week. Any opinions?

[RVA Ironman]

guys are there any fat burners out there that actually help burn more fat? Most seem to be just energy stimulants (nothing more than taking ridiculous amounts of coffee and tea).

I'm trying to find a proven fat burner that will actually aide by body in destroying fat cells. Is this even possible?

What about any topical fat burners? I have a lot of fat (well a lot relative the rest of my body) underneath my arms and chest.

Bump. I haven't taken any fat burners in years. I got tired of throwing away money on (insert popular fat burner of the year here...) while seeing little/no results, all the while following a very strict diet/workout plan. Only stimulants I've relied on for the past three years are black coffee and grean tea. Can someone provide some scientific explanation or a compelling argument showing why taking Lipo 6 (or a similar product) would be more beneficial than coffee/grean tea?

[RVA Ironman]

Anyone?

[rmani]

Yep I'm still waiting for some more insight as well. I also started another thread search my name. Most people are just saying to diet though. But I still feel like my body needs help burning up fat.

[BaSsSiKk]

Syntrax Fyre is the ****!!

[dsade]

Syntrax Fyre is the ****!!

My wife and I tried a sample of FYRE and got hit my a major freight train of nausea and general malaise.

::shiver::

[momotl]

Anybody experiment with NxLabs Methyl Ripped?

I tried 2 bottles of it and had decent results. Gives you great energy and focus. Minimal jitters I would say and none on some days for some reason. I shedded a good 8lbs using it for 2months.

[koz111]

fellaz its called "xenedrine super hard core" seriously i have tried everything!!!hydroxycut,dymatize super fast lean or some ish,clenbuterol...everything... the clen did really good..but when it came to getting shredded and feeling super charged and powerfull xenedrine is the key guys..just becarefull because once you feel the power its over...im addicted to this product..make sure you are always on some omega complex always guys because after u give xene a try ur hooked and we all know that long term fat burners or thermogenic fat burners arent to kind on the heart and everything..getting ripped fast and strong also its insane i cant believe it..i lost 20 kg of fat in 2 months(note...the clen i did last year and it was real i got it from the farmacy anyway im comparing to last year)and went up on my bench about20kg! (20x2.2=lbs) do the math...the weird thing is that my work outs were super charged i did the reps with such rage but increased in strength after a while...not like the up-down loss and regain strength i would experiance with the other fat burners..ill have pics soon where u can see how i transformed

[shoopster]

Which do guys think is better, lipo 6 or lipo 6x?

[7Steve77]

AST Dymetadrine Xtreme

[Justfit29]

I did the T2 with Thermolean for my last show - I dont know if they one works with or without the other but together I got the leanest I have been for a natural show (4.9%). I got them at femnutrition.com, I think about 60 bucks for both.

[roorensu]

Which do guys think is better, lipo 6 or lipo 6x?

it depends n your tolerance to the supplement.

if you already finished a couple of lipo 6 bottles, itl stop working from my experience so i switched to lipo6x and it was great.

[BlubberButt]

I had great results with Slimadrine, I think it's basically a generic Xenadrine EFX.

[ahbroody]

Bump. I haven't taken any fat burners in years. I got tired of throwing away money on (insert popular fat burner of the year here...) while seeing little/no results, all the while following a very strict diet/workout plan. Only stimulants I've relied on for the past three years are black coffee and grean tea. Can someone provide some scientific explanation or a compelling argument showing why taking Lipo 6 (or a similar product) would be more beneficial than coffee/grean tea?

Bumped
My only problem area is my mid section. I really dont want to waalk around all cranked out. Is there anything that works well for just fat burn and not energy. I sleep well and have plenty of energy for workouts dont need or want the jitters.

Broody

[eldawg]

AST Dymetadrine (Xtreme)

I haven't heard that name in about 10 years!

[deserusan]

Free Gaspari Cytolean samples www.getcytolean.com

Enjoy! :p

[axour]

Free Gaspari Cytolean samples www.getcytolean.com

Enjoy! :p

Thank you for the link:)
I've tried a few different fat burners and I haven't been about to find one I really like yet, I'll try this and see how it goes.

[rocky06]

One of the best fat burners out there right now is def BSN's Atro-Phex... this **** is the real deal. It not only tightens you up and shreds the fat off, it also gives you this feeling of positive attitude everytime you take the servings. Ive tried a lot of different fat burners and this one is def worth its weight in gold.