Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner? [Archive] - Page 3

Cyrus317

08-17-2006, 07:45 AM

Hi folks

I have just got some ephedrine 45mg tabs. Im unsure of how to take these - Do I need to take anything elese with them???????????????????
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ADVICE NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanking you!
Lv Dollx

I'll keep this one much shorter, I promise! First of all, I've never heard of 45 mg tabs. Don't tell me where you got 'em, just tell me there is a label on the bottle. Go to that label and check to make sure that each tab contains 45 mg of Ephedrine. It may be that the tabs are 45 mg, but only a portion of that (usually 25 or 12.5 mg) is the Ephedrine, while the rest is something else.

Now, this is a thread about Ephedra-Free Fat burners. For information on how to best use Ephedrine as a fat-burner, I'd refer you to this thread:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=316758

It's put together by Sawastea, who is probably the most knowledgeable guy I've ever come across in regards to ephedrine usage. He'll do you right, so check it out.

Crissy

08-22-2006, 01:17 AM

I am liking the Hydroxycut Hardcore but like another poster said they make me sleepy about 4 hrs into them.

NEXTLEVEL

08-23-2006, 10:47 AM

For those of you that have tried both.. HOT-ROX or Hydroxycut Hardcore?

generals01

08-23-2006, 12:45 PM

I went through a bottle of this. Didn't really like, didn't think it was worth the cost. Gave me moderate amounts of energy. Red poop was kind of weird. Anyway I wouldn't pay $40 for it again. I'm using ephedrine now and it works better

juggernaut=-=

08-23-2006, 04:25 PM

My girlfriend took Zantrax 3 for one day and didnt drink enough water and she ended up in the hospital for a whole day with a iv stuck in her feeding her fluids because she was so dehydrated her body couldent rehydrate itself by drinking, thats what the doctors said anyway. She suffered kidney damage and still has pain in her kidneys when she doesent drink lots of water. This happend last year, she said she was never in so much pain in her life, that it was worse than food poisoning, she felt sick for 2 weeks after being released from the hospital. Moral of the story: Drink lots of water when taking zantrax 3.

EMISGOD

08-23-2006, 05:48 PM

I've read many reviews and they all said that all u do is lose waterweight with this product!

Once I finish out the bottle I'm using now, I will probably do a full review in the supplements section (possibly tonight), but NxCare Methyl Ripped is a very odd product. The sample and first bottle I bought worked really well. The second bottle (almost gone now) works barely, if at all. I have bumped it up with heavy doses of Vitamin B, but I shouldn't have to be doing that.

So far, the thermos I have liked best have been Thermonex, Speed, Rev XP and Hot Rox.

Also good, though slightly less so, are Redline and GNC's Firestarter (if it is still around).

Everything else I have tested, I have also found to be junk (though I plan on testing Scorch, AMP, and Thermorexin in the near future), particularly Cytodyne's Xenadrine NRG, which I would avoid like the plague and the absurd joke that is Anadrox.

NEXTLEVEL

08-23-2006, 08:42 PM

I ended up going with Venom HyperDrive 3. I'll let everyone know how it works out.

bigdj55

08-24-2006, 08:30 AM

I was just wondering something... I am in my cutting cycle and I am taking MAN Scorch (I run at 5 a.m., lift at 1 p.m., and then wrestle at 6), and I am taking MAN Clout before I lift...Do you think that with the creatine product that it is limiting my overall cutting cycle?

elcelicagts

08-25-2006, 12:08 AM

You're new hear (it seems), so I'll break you in easy. It seems that your technique is in your mind-set. You'll hear it a thousand times. Losing fat comes down to calories in vrs. calories out. Gaining muscle does as well. They aren't entirely mutually exclusive, but pretty damned much so. I tell my younger friends this all the time. The best way to lose weight is to start by bulking (in which you will add weight, but hopefully very little will be fat), and then follow it by a cutting cycle (in which you'll lose a lot of weight, but also possibly a little muscle). What you are trying to do is sometimes refered to as a "clean bulk," and it's simply not effective.

Looking at your situation, here's my advice. If you want to build muscle, go with the protein and the CEE. However, realize that you might gain a little weight. Don't worry, with proper diet, most of it will be muscle anyway. If you want to cut up, then DROP THE CEE. Creatine works by augmenting muscle contraction in place of ATP. It is the process by which the body recruits more ATP when stores are depleted that causes you to burn fat. In other words, if you are using creatine, you are making it so your body doesn't need to make as much ATP, meaning that you will not lose anywhere near as much fat as if you weren't taking it. Regardless of your goal, always keep protein intake high (around 1-1.5g/lb. bodyweight). This will help stem the tide against your hard earned muscle wasting away during a cut, and is essential for any bulk.

In other news, Ergopharm recently sent me a sample of AMP. I've taken 2 servings (what they sent me), both times before I worked out. First time it just gave me the jitters, but second time I felt an energy rush and was sweating quite a bit more than normal. I could feel the heat radiating from my arteries, and my heart rate was accelerated. All good signs of thermogenesis. However, when I went to take my body temp, it remained low (typical for me, due to a slow metabolism). Therefore, my support of AMP is inconclusive, despite my extremely positive feeling about my last dose. 2 servings is just no enough to measure fat burning.

i went from 140 pounds - 225 pounds in 4 years. im five feet seven inches.now 23 years old.

i just started working out again- in two weeks i THINK i lost at least 3 pounds, i hope to keep this up this week and next week(3rd and 4th week).

just doing mostly cardio - 20 min. threadmill runs a day
20 min. weights a day around 7 pm.
food consumption im going for 5-6 meals a day in small portions. and cutting my old eatling habits in half.

eating healthier food, and no more sodas or fast foods.

i also started taking these this week, before and after workouts.

protein shakes from- GNC pro performance (before/after)
L-glutamine powder- GNC pro performance (before/after)
creatine-bio core ethyl ester superior absorption (before/after)

i came on here looking for fatburners and saw your comment, so is mixxing all these with any fat burners not the way to go???

should i bulk up and keep doing what im doing , and switch it up in 2 months with the fat burners and protein shakes with glutomine.

so i bulk right now, and in two months i start loosing more weight and cutting right?

MoreMuscle06

09-03-2006, 06:36 PM

i am takeing HYDROXYCUT CAFFEINE FREE AND STIMULANT FREE 72 pills
for 20 dollars i have seen good results in 6 days i lost 7 pounds
i am happy it works for me hydroxycut caffeine free stimulant free
really works

Vaper

09-07-2006, 08:06 AM

Vadym

09-07-2006, 04:03 PM

What are the negative effects of Hydroxycut Caffeine Free and Stimulent Free?

I am the definition of a noob. Ive been working out for about 2 years, but I had no idea what a supplement was. Im just a tad bit overweight, and would like to get some fat off of my lower abs. I have a good muscle build workout, and just figured out an effective cardio workout.

My 2 questions are:
1. Does hydroxycut do more harm than good?

2. Are there supplements that will haul my ass to the gym like greased lightning?

NEXTLEVEL

09-11-2006, 01:59 PM

A little update on the venum hd 3.0:

So, I've been taking it now for 2 weeks. I first started taking 1 pill and it was definitely kicking my ass. You don't get the same jitters as the orginal Xenadrine but you do get a strong sensation from the product. After the first week was done my waist went down by at least an inch and my face definitely looks thinner. I lost ~ 10lbs just by taking these pills and I do realize most of it is water weight. You need to drink a lot of water on this product as it does make you dehydrated and make you go to the restroom a lot. I just upped my daily intake from 1 to 2 since my bidy was used to one pill and bam, back to getting the strong sensations. This product definitely works. I don't know how much actual fat I lost but I know for certain that it does remove at the very least the water weight from your body. I'll post another update after week's end. Also, it does a very good job of suppressing the appetite. It's very easy to go without food for hours so I have to make sure I force myself to eat and get enough calories.

alphagam02ou

09-11-2006, 05:54 PM

ThermoShred rocks!

I started using it 4 weeks out from my competition to get those last few stubborn pounds off...and ended up losing 12. A few pounds of it was water weight that I put back on immediately after the show, but it definitely served its intended purpose for me. By the day of my show, I found cuts I didn't know I was capable of getting! The best part was the effect it had on my workouts. I HATE cardio, and this helped me tough out those long sessions on the treadmill.

I followed the directions on the package as far as working up to the maximum dose, so I didn't suffer any major side effects. I didn't get jittery, no sweating, shakiness, diarrhea or lightheadedness. The only concern I had was twice over the course of the month, I got flushed after I took it...but it was mild and went away within a few minutes (and was probably related to the fact that I had a sunburn on both occasions).

I'd only recommend using it for a short time and only for competition prep because of the intense diuretic effect.

BadWog

09-11-2006, 09:47 PM

i have a bottle of unopened lipo6 in my hand and i was lookinf at this http://www.nutrex.com/images/lipo6liquicap.jpg , and the ingredients that are in mine are different.

Citrus Aurantium 100mg
Total amines 11.5%
Individual amines
Synephrine 10%
N-Methly Tyramine 0.9-1.6%
Tyramine 0.2-0.4%
Hordenine 0.2-0.4%
Octopamine 0.2-0.4%

Caffeine Anhdrous USP 100mg
Coleus Forskolii (standardized to 20% Forskolin) 50mg
Synthetic Guggulsterones 1:1 10mg
bioperine 2.5mg

DO NOT EXCEED 3 LIQUI-CAPS PER DAY

wtf, how many should i take ? , btw i bought my bottle in australia

Hey Vaper, great to see a fellow melbournian on the forums. I have the exact same Lipo 6 as you. Basically, in Australia they are much stricter on these kinds of supplements than in America so they advise us to take much less. If you compare the ingredients from the Lipo 6 you buy from bb.com and our bottles you will see they are identical if you take the same ammount of capsules except for 1 ingredient, Yohimbine HCL, which is banned in Australia. However, it is only 3mg per 2 capsules so you don't miss out on too much.

I have been on it for a few days now according to the American dosage (2 caps, 3 times a day) and so far so good. Quick question, where do you buy your Lipo 6 from and how much? I'm forced to buy it from my gym for $95 a bottle coz I can't get it from bb.com due to it's Yohimbine content. However I saw it at vitaminking.com.au for $72 so I will be ordering from there from now on.

Good luck mate.

ThisGuy02

09-12-2006, 01:45 PM

hegs00

09-13-2006, 09:47 PM

i have tried nutrex lipo 6 and had some amazing results with it. i have herd though that it can give people some shocking side effects, such as the jitters hyperactivity and even someitmes more shocking side effects. Just be carefull when taking this make sure you build up ur tolorance to the product and follow the dosage instructions properly. Also remember to drink plenty of water all the time :D

Vaper

09-14-2006, 09:11 AM

Hey Vaper, great to see a fellow melbournian on the forums. I have the exact same Lipo 6 as you. Basically, in Australia they are much stricter on these kinds of supplements than in America so they advise us to take much less. If you compare the ingredients from the Lipo 6 you buy from bb.com and our bottles you will see they are identical if you take the same ammount of capsules except for 1 ingredient, Yohimbine HCL, which is banned in Australia. However, it is only 3mg per 2 capsules so you don't miss out on too much.

I have been on it for a few days now according to the American dosage (2 caps, 3 times a day) and so far so good. Quick question, where do you buy your Lipo 6 from and how much? I'm forced to buy it from my gym for $95 a bottle coz I can't get it from bb.com due to it's Yohimbine content. However I saw it at vitaminking.com.au for $72 so I will be ordering from there from now on.

Good luck mate.

yea i guess we will have to double up on the doses since we only have half of the potency i bought mine for $95 at broadmeadows shopping centre but im probly not gonna buy it again ill probly go for man scorch for $92.50 from here http://www.ultimatephysique.com.au/MAN-Scorch-168-capsules-pr-16167.html

ryan911

09-14-2006, 06:25 PM

It seems everyday there is a new product coming out saying its the most powerful fat burner yet...

Im not fat or really even overweight i'd say i just have a good bit of excess body fat that im having trouble gettin rid of. I eat pretty well and consistently. Im trying to find a fat loss management supplement that will help me along with my cardio.

Ive taken lipo 6 and Ripped before it seemed that i gained back most of the weight as soon as i stopped the product.

Im thinking about trying Hydroxycut HARDCORE has anyone had good results with this product? Or are there any other new products that seem to work good?

Thanks,
Ryan

Langston

09-20-2006, 11:09 AM

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Mike83

09-20-2006, 05:15 PM

i dont know if anyone mentioned **** Hyperdrive 3.0 yet, but I havent felt anything close to those effects in anyother fatburner.

I think the appetite suppression excedes ephedrine. Who knows what they put in that!

NFL_Hopeful

09-20-2006, 06:20 PM

I just started taking methyl ripped by NxCare.

I'll post how it worked for me in like a month.

thedisneydad

09-25-2006, 10:00 PM

care to hear another Lipo 6 story? Good...

I'm on my third cycle of Lipo6...my first I lost 30lbs in 12 weeks.

Then my weight was creeping back up...argh...

2nd cycle, I lost another 25 lbs, and again, my weight crept back up...what the heck?

Then it hit me, my weight was going up, but my pants and shirts were falling off...duh! Muscle. I don't stress over it anymore. I'm on my third cycle now since saturday and have shed some water weight, but nothing substantial.

I've tried Xenadrine, Stacker, Redline(what a beast...I took a can of redline before my brown belt test and flew through it...felt like I could verticle leap through the roof...grappled for an hour afterward, couldn't even stand, and my arms were heavy, but I was flying!), Xyience Xlerate and Xenergy, Hydroxycut, and a couple others that don't even deserve mention. Stacker put me in the ER for heart irregularities and the doctor asked if I abuse cocaine(of course totally off the record...record or not, I won't touch that crap), and I told him of course I don't...he said my heart was doing what cocaine abuser's hearts do...stopped all that jazz.

Anyway, Lipo6 is my weapon of choice.

Johnnyduc916

09-27-2006, 12:15 AM

Just like in the movies "TRANSPORTER" The use of one product to dealiver the other ones into the system proper The ABB "ADENALYN" GRAPPLE 18 oz of grape mixed with gatorade and take two "HYDROXYCUT! Done. Your burning thermo-goodness and don't slam the drink! Half fast then sip the rest. I am a GRAPE APE! When it comes to flavor.

squat_princess

09-28-2006, 05:32 PM

I've had increadbile results with **** lean system. Hyperdrive 3.0, Lean dreams and special tactics.. I have never experienced anything like that before. IMO, it's even better than EC.

I've also had great results with Scorch stacked with sesamin.

I didn't like the way lipo6 made me feel, and Hydroxycut hardcore- was only hardcore for the first 2 weeks on- and then i guess my body got too used to it, because all the appetite supression and energy was no longer present. I actually started feeling lethargic on it. (and with lipo6 too)

I'm going to be using Red Acid gen2 for my next cut... I'll let you know how it goes.

cougarfootball2

09-28-2006, 07:00 PM

NXcare's Ripped System is the best ive tried

macedaddy

09-28-2006, 07:48 PM

Another vote for Lipo-6 here. Lost an inch around my waist in a month.
Switched to Animal Cuts and lost another inch.

Both quality products. But I was also doing cardio daily AND eating good!

Cyrus317

09-28-2006, 07:54 PM

i went from 140 pounds - 225 pounds in 4 years. im five feet seven inches.now 23 years old.

i just started working out again- in two weeks i THINK i lost at least 3 pounds, i hope to keep this up this week and next week(3rd and 4th week).

just doing mostly cardio - 20 min. threadmill runs a day
20 min. weights a day around 7 pm.
food consumption im going for 5-6 meals a day in small portions. and cutting my old eatling habits in half.

eating healthier food, and no more sodas or fast foods.

i also started taking these this week, before and after workouts.

protein shakes from- GNC pro performance (before/after)
L-glutamine powder- GNC pro performance (before/after)
creatine-bio core ethyl ester superior absorption (before/after)

i came on here looking for fatburners and saw your comment, so is mixxing all these with any fat burners not the way to go???

should i bulk up and keep doing what im doing , and switch it up in 2 months with the fat burners and protein shakes with glutomine.

so i bulk right now, and in two months i start loosing more weight and cutting right?

I've been away for what seems like years, so it's likely you're not even reading anymore. Sorry it took me so long to get back. In answer to your questions:

1) Yes, I'd start with a bulk, then move to a cut, then back to a bulk. Generally, cuts are less long than the bulks, but if your primary goal is weight loss, you can probably keep them even. The bulk is very important, and I recommend it first because it will build up muscle tissue, and your body requires excess cals to power and maintain this muscle. In other words, if you build the muscle, then keep the protein high and workouts intense during the cut, you'll shed much more fat than you would without the bulk. You'll also look better;)

2) Keep tracking your weight, but don't get discouraged if it doesn't drop a bunch during the cut, and don't freak out if it goes up during the bulk. That's normal for a bulk, and if you are running a good cut, your weight should stay near the same towards the end, cuz you'll be adding a little muscle while removing the fat. Not a LOT of muscle, but enough to counterbalance the weight lost in fat. Remember, muscle weighs more, because it's more dense. For truly precise measurements of fat loss, you'd need body fat calipers, and I doubt you'll get them (most ppl don't).

3) Good start with the diet. Keep it in check. The occasional cheat is good; I'd even encourage it... but don't go overboard. Keep it strict most of the time.
Exercise-wise, keep it up. Make sure your cardio is INTENSE cardio. Almost every day they have a new study showing that cardio that is not truly intense (step programs don't make the grade) have little to no health benefits compared to true workouts. I'd prefer to see you working out for at least 1 hour a day (you listed 40 mins) 6-7 days a week, but life can get hectic. It's just important you get something in for a workout each day.

4) I don't know what you mean by "stacking" fat-burners. While I advocate the ECA stack, I certainly don't recommend it for beginners. I'd take only 1 fat burner at a time, cuz more is likely superfluous (spelling?): you won't know what is really working. For true weight loss, however, I'd recommend an appetite suppresent with a thermo sup. Some things, like Hydroxycut, seem to do this all in one. Others do not, and so you'll need to try something like Hoodia with it (never tried it myself though). Green tea works great for me.

5) Lastly, unless you have some special discount, I'd stay away from GNC stuff. I bought stuff from there for years. Some is good, but a lot is junk. It tends to be underdosed severely for whatever you are trying to do, and it costs more than most internet sites (like this one;)). I suppose their protein is fine, if you like the taste and have cash to burn.
L-Glutamine has been shown by some studies to be orally inactive. It's not my area of expertise, though, so that's your call.
Creatine is a great supp. for a bulk, and an AWFUL supp for you cut. It causes bloat due to water retention in the muscles, and it pulls water away from vital organs like the liver and kidneys. Since these are important in waste processing, and during your cut you will be excreting a lot of waste (through sweat and urine, mostly), I'd stay away from it when doing heavy cardio. No real advantages.
Lastly, just my advice... During a bulk, supp protein before AND after workouts. BUT, During a cut, supp it ONLY post workout, and make sure it's a low carb shake. This will keep insulin levels lower prior to workout (so more fat is burned for energy), but will still keep you muscles from experiencing too much "wasting"

...
Oh, and add some fish oil! It's called an ESSENTIAL FAT for a good reason;)

heretic74

10-02-2006, 07:31 PM

EST makes a very good lean and trim stack . I tried it for 30 days to be fair and I liked it . It is 2 different products the Thermostat and Suppressor . They work great together. I did not try them by themselves but I got a good deal for both . Bodybuilding.com carries it . Worth trying if you are looking for something new . Here is the link to the main site
http://www.estnutrition.com

the/rock

10-03-2006, 02:38 PM

i have a bottle of unopened lipo6 in my hand and i was lookinf at this http://www.nutrex.com/images/lipo6liquicap.jpg , and the ingredients that are in mine are different.

Citrus Aurantium 100mg
Total amines 11.5%
Individual amines
Synephrine 10%
N-Methly Tyramine 0.9-1.6%
Tyramine 0.2-0.4%
Hordenine 0.2-0.4%
Octopamine 0.2-0.4%

Caffeine Anhdrous USP 100mg
Coleus Forskolii (standardized to 20% Forskolin) 50mg
Synthetic Guggulsterones 1:1 10mg
bioperine 2.5mg

DO NOT EXCEED 3 LIQUI-CAPS PER DAY

wtf, how many should i take ? , btw i bought my bottle in australia
hi there
I live in new zealand howz it going!!
I got a bottle of lipo 6 here in new zealand
and it has the same ingredients as the one you
have, according to the describtion on bodybuilding
shop ,our formula is missing the gugglestones ,i have
emailed bodybuilding.com to ask which is better because
I want to use the formula than has been wining the awards
and making the top 10 selling product ,they say there is
an american formula and a international formula!! I feel
a bit ripped of from nutrex who dont inform as of this!!!
nothing on package to tell us this !!! I hope it works o.k
i have had more kick from other products than this formula!!
how have you guys found it??? I realise diet and cardio are the
base!!I have a nutritionalist and trainer.

MoreMuscle06

10-03-2006, 08:49 PM

Glennm

10-10-2006, 12:36 AM

i took hydroxycut caffeine free and stimulant free and lost 9 pounds in 6 days
since then i gained 2 pounds any one that has tried hydroxycut please comment if it worked or if did not or the side effects i want something with not too much caffeine what do you recommend

I am guessing that the 9 pounds you lost was nearly all water weight. Because it is extremely unhealthy and nearly impossible (without the use of lipsuction) to lose that much fat in that short amount of time.

macedaddy

10-10-2006, 05:52 AM

^^i agree.

smithjustin

10-16-2006, 02:18 PM

Hello All I am currently in the AirForce and I need help deciding what is the best fat burner. I have lost a great oppertunity to enter the Special Ops world due to my run times I am looking for something that will get me through those long workout sessions. I have tried about everything from Hydroxycut to Venom I just cant find one that works for me Here are my stats

178lbs
5'9"
35" waist
11:00 min 1.5 mi
12 ruck march 4hrs with 55lbs
60 push
60 situps
6 pullups

If anyone can help with a supplement choice and/or different training ideas let me know please Thanks All

joshy22

10-19-2006, 11:19 AM

I used to use EC Stack of Vasopro,MAN Scorch and Vaporize and Caffeine and L-Carnitine worked great! I now use Gaspari Nutrition Thyrotabs,LG-Speed and Transform and Scivation Sesamin and L-Carnitine and I think its working even better!!! And Speed has less caffeine and Im on no Ephedra! I suggest this stack to anyone who wants to drop wight quickly!

Cyrus317

10-19-2006, 05:10 PM

ephedrine will boost your run-time like you are some racing horse... trust me! Of course, it's what the air force calls a "vaso-active" (or something very similar) substance, and so is on the list of banned substances, right under steroids actually. Sorry bro. In fact, anything that's really gonna help your run is going to be banned by the Force for one reason or another. I was going to suggest Yohimbine, but the same deal is there as well. If you need to go faster for short bursts (like the 1.5 mile) then run farlicks (not sure on the spelling). That's like a 30 second balls-to-the-walls sprint, followed by a 30 second jog; repeated over and over again for a long ass time. Don't stop in between each time interval; just go one speed right into the other. If you are needing to increase time on a distance run, grow longer legs:D . But seriously dude, I think most supps that will
make a real difference are banned.

Hello All I am currently in the AirForce and I need help deciding what is the best fat burner. I have lost a great oppertunity to enter the Special Ops world due to my run times I am looking for something that will get me through those long workout sessions. I have tried about everything from Hydroxycut to Venom I just cant find one that works for me Here are my stats

178lbs
5'9"
35" waist
11:00 min 1.5 mi
12 ruck march 4hrs with 55lbs
60 push
60 situps
6 pullups

If anyone can help with a supplement choice and/or different training ideas let me know please Thanks All

smithjustin

10-19-2006, 06:55 PM

Thanks for the info... i have not found really anything that talks about different supplement like hydroxycut. Im going to talk to the med techs to see what they think. Im thinking about trying Hydroxycut Hardcore any pros/cons with this supplement

macedaddy

10-20-2006, 06:06 AM

yeah, it turns your poop red!!!
that doesn't seem that bad. but, believe me it just aint right seeing that in the toilet!!!
I will NEVER do hydroxycut Hardcore again. Lipo 6 is good!

BTW, you can get a free sample of our stim X and try that:
http://www.stimulantx.com/freesingnup.php

smithjustin

10-20-2006, 04:40 PM

that really dosent bother me if its going to work i also looked into the Stimulant X but it seems pretty cashy! What are the differences between Hydroxycut Hardcore and Stimulant X ?

macedaddy

10-21-2006, 08:54 AM

you only need 1 pill.
so it is a 90 day supply for the money.
if 1 isn't enough for you, you can go to 2 and it will still last you 45 days!!

You take 1 or 2 in the morning and it gives you continuous energy for 12 hours!!

*Zeus*

10-22-2006, 12:11 PM

bill4588

10-22-2006, 12:22 PM

hey all. I'm a noob when it comes to fat burners. I've been on hydroxycut hardcore for about 3 weeks and have seen very little results. What a waste of $45! All it seems to do is give me red ****s. It seems that Lipo-6 works great, but I realize that different supps work differently for each person. I'm 6'2" and weigh 210 lbs, with approximately 15% body fat. 95% of my fat is on my chest, lower stomach, and love handles. I wish to have around 6 or 7% body fat by next summer, or at least have a cut chest and abs. I lift 4 days a week (split routine) doing about 20-30 min of cardio every time. Would you recommend Lipo-6?

macedaddy

10-22-2006, 12:29 PM

lipo-6 worked for me....
animal cuts is another good one if you can stomach all the pills.
i lost an inch with each one.
but i was also doing 45 mins of cardio every morning on an empty stomach.

PRO FIGHTER99

10-23-2006, 03:19 AM

Biotest Hot-Rox.

JIM DOBSON

10-23-2006, 04:18 PM

so NxCare ripped system is worth a try?

bk12321

10-25-2006, 05:29 PM

im taking N.O. Shotgun and Controlled Labs Red Acid gen 2

energy is insane i feel like i wanna kick someone's ass every time I take them...

im going to post a journal once I have some more results from them

LittleSwole30

10-31-2006, 11:55 AM

FZ1

10-31-2006, 07:21 PM

There are a few products that I think I already mentioned earlier, but chromium picolinate in general is great for weight loss and speeding up the matabolism. For more information this site is helpful:
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/chromiumpicolinate.htm
Did you even read the article?

Despite rampant claims that chromium picolinate is a weight loss miracle that will melt fat, improve metabolism, and increase muscle mass, scientific evidence overwhelmingly indicates that the supplement does nothing of the kind. When combined with exercise, chromium supplementation does nothing to enhance weight loss as compared to exercise alone, in study after study. The case of chromium picolinate should caution consumers against believing miracle weight loss claims. When advertised on the internet, chromium picolinate is presented as a reliable, safe, and fast way to reduce body fat: actual evidence presents a very different picture of this supplement. Taking a daily dose of chromium picolinate will not likely produce any drastic results, and certainly will not produce effects that could not be achieved with exercise alone. Consumers should always be wary of dietary supplements touted as “miracles,” and investigate the truth behind flashy claims before deciding to take any nutritional aid.

Plazma King

11-01-2006, 09:46 AM

animal cuts is definitely my favorite...

2005bluesti

11-01-2006, 06:23 PM

has anyone heard of cheaters you take one before and after every meal

dark_man812

11-02-2006, 01:53 PM

I used to have doubts about most ephedra free fat burners until Syntrax sent me a bottle of their FYRE. I've been on it for 2 weeks...the stuff is AMAZING! Check out my log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=12224708#post12224708

Here's another log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=932530

And yet another one:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=919733

All of us have had great results so far...

BigDog760

11-11-2006, 12:09 AM

dude 10lbs in 3 weeks is good, you don't wanna kiss your muscle goodbye.

Rickhead

11-12-2006, 11:52 AM

Stimulant-X is unbelievable! My wife and I have been taking ephedra based products and ECA stacks for years(and still do occasionally), and stim-x is so much more powerful. It makes me wonder what it really contains. There are only two draw-backs that I notice; 1. Severe headache when you stop taking it.
2. Absolutely no appetite whatsoever for roughly 12 hours after taking it. Because of the second draw-back, it is very important to eat before you take it, as stated on the bottle.
Oh yeah! I got my last bottle on E-bay for 28.00 including shipping.

macedaddy

11-12-2006, 01:02 PM

Good recommendation!! :D

bill4588

11-12-2006, 01:06 PM

i have to agree about the stimulant x. i got the 4 sample pills in the mail. i took one around 1 in the afternoon (cuz thats when i got it in the mail and i was eager to try it :p ), and I was off the wall for 12 straight hours! And my workout that night was INTENSE! I'm gonna buy a bottle when I get the extra cash.

maxiderm

11-12-2006, 02:12 PM

Emagrece Sim is a brasilian product. But it is now banned for some reason. I took it for one month and lost 25 pounds. It was such a great product! The woman who formulated it is now in prison for some odd reason.. lol. I went from 145lbs to 117lbs in a month.

hmm... that doesnt sound really convincing lol...

"its brazilian, its banned, shes in jail"... ILL TAKE IT!!!

tjthetank

11-22-2006, 08:40 PM

hey all,

Ill just put my input in, im taking lipo6 atm and it seems ok, i feel an increase in energy everytime i take it and feel more motivated to do cardio (might be a placebo effect). in 3 weeks i lost 5 kilos which isnt much but i am also drinking a lot of WPI. I have noticed an increase in muscle definition around the abdominal region which is a good sign.

Before i purchased these thought i read up alot on it and made sure my doc gave me the green light as it can cause increased heartrate and i beleive it also has an effect where it contricts ur main arteries (not sure what it is called) that can cause ppl to experience chest pains.

But i rekon if you follow the instructions it can assist with you healthy diet and exercise plan.

uhockey

11-23-2006, 01:44 AM

I absolutely disagree. I can't believe your doctor actually suggested a product with yohimbine and guggles is actually okay.

Inotropic = upped Heart Rate
Vasoconstricitve = constriction of vessels

Bad combo.

Scorch V3, Basic Cuts, and Thermal Rage are FAR more sensible options.

JK2006

11-27-2006, 11:04 AM

I finished my cycle of EC (2 weeks) and started with green tea (ECGC). Can Lipo6 be taken with this stim?

ulter

11-27-2006, 11:13 AM

I finished my cycle of EC (2 weeks) and started with green tea (ECGC). Can Lipo6 be taken with this stim?

Yes but Themorexin is a better choice. And it's on sale here at bb.com.

bulldog348

11-27-2006, 12:33 PM

Emagrece Sim is a brasilian product. But it is now banned for some reason. I took it for one month and lost 25 pounds. It was such a great product! The woman who formulated it is now in prison for some odd reason.. lol. I went from 145lbs to 117lbs in a month.

htt p://www .diet-blog .com/archives/2006/01/13/emagrece_sim_warning.php

and now you know why...

Son21387

11-30-2006, 12:08 AM

Ok, first of all I for all those people who say this fat burner was great or bad, They really don't appealing to me because I have no idea how well you support the fat burner with diet and exercise. Above that everyone's body is different. To get on the topic, I have taken hydroxycut hardcore, with extremely clean diet, and cardio as well as 5 lifting sessions a week. I feel it has helped me get ripped and slightly go above my platuea but I do not think it's worth the money. I am leaning toawrds hot rox, and planning to stack it with green tea extract and some yohimbe. If this does not work, I do believe that all this supplement hype is a waste of money, and i'm just going to stick to the basics, which is good diet and exercise.

giangrosso

11-30-2006, 06:17 AM

id have to say syntrax fyre.

jream

11-30-2006, 09:55 AM

Thanks for the link to the free Stim X sample, Ill test it out.
I just started taking HydroxyHardcore and it like knocks me out - I get exhausted.

I used to take TrimSpa since my sister bought some (before lifting) and its more like a appetite suppresser than an energy booster. It didnt do really anything besides make me not want to eat. I did lose a few pounds in a month my regular activities though, I gained it back pretty quick and then some.

DayvBoy

12-02-2006, 01:56 AM

A great combination that got me rock hard looking, super vascular and dripped the fat off is
400mcg of Chromiun Picolinate a day
1000mg of Nicotinic Acid a day
2ml of L Caritine every second day
and 50mg of Vanadyl Sulfate a day

as well as with Protein powder and Creatine.

nelsonthedon

12-02-2006, 04:59 AM

Methyl RIPPED is good but it makes me feel like i wanna keep taking it kind of like ciggarent craving for more

giangrosso

12-02-2006, 06:44 AM

DayvBoy

12-02-2006, 01:01 PM

No way matey, clean as can be.....nothing illegal about that rock hard, ultra vascular fomula I mentioned above... all supplements you can obtain yourself very very easliy...

nelsonthedon

12-07-2006, 12:22 AM

TRy Liquid soft gel green tea Fat burner is on sale at CVS for 5.25 save ur money and lose some weight by using this

monolithdigital

12-07-2006, 10:12 PM

For fat burning, nothing beats the treadmill. Ephedrine made my hands shake and I swear i felt my heart quiver, and that was on a third of the standard dose for BB. Water water and more water with green tea for the pep ups in the morning and afternoon are pretty much the best stack I have found.

cain9580

12-10-2006, 07:21 PM

I have been using Lipo 6 for almost a month now. With my current workout which is a good mix of weight training, cardio vascular, and endurance training I have been able to drop from 16 to 10.5% body fat.

redhawk76

12-10-2006, 07:24 PM

cain9580

12-11-2006, 01:06 AM

In April 2006 I decided to get back into going to the gym after a few year lapse. I weighed in at a sloppy 140 average pounds.

Up until about the beginning of October I was in a constant bulk phase and my weight topped of at about 164 pounds.

I decided it was time to start cutting back some of the fat and better see my progress so I did some research, got some Lipo 6, changed my workout and the rest is history.

I changed my workout, regulated my diet, and started on the Lipo 6. At the time of this article I am sitting at 154 pounds with a 30 inch waist.

JK2006

12-11-2006, 09:36 AM

I started using Thermorexin + green Tea (ECGC). Been on it for 2 days. Its OK but the energy is lesser than EC. With EC I could never take a afternoon nap. But with Thermorexin I slept for 2 hrs this Sunday afternoon :)

EC dehydrates you way more than Thermorexin. With EC I was consuming close to 2 gallons a day. With Thermorexin its more like 1 gallon, but its sufficient I think.

Goodfella213

12-12-2006, 07:10 PM

Cyrus317

12-13-2006, 12:31 PM

OK. I am curious,

Lipo-6 won the award for best fat burner, Would it even have been close if EC was in the runnings?

Could or should someone take ephedra with lipo-6 (If legal where they live OF COURSE).

You could, but you are running risks (the seriousness of these risks is not clinically proven). The risks stem from adding ephedrine to yohimbine. Yohimbine acts as an MAOI, which, in turn (if I've got the science right) causes a block of the re-uptake of of epineprhine (released by the ephedrine). As this substance increases in levels in the body, it causes in increased risk of myocardial infarction. In other words, I don't reco the E plus the Y, and those two you've asked about would do just that.

Goodfella213

12-13-2006, 03:12 PM

Thank you for that info and advise. I really appriciate it!!!!!!

Which would you suggest? (EC or Lipo-6)

sasamil85

12-16-2006, 11:24 AM

Training tips, diets, fat burners and more on http://www.sasa.bigmoron.com

shazz

12-16-2006, 04:04 PM

You could, but you are running risks (the seriousness of these risks is not clinically proven). The risks stem from adding ephedrine to yohimbine. Yohimbine acts as an MAOI, which, in turn (if I've got the science right) causes a block of the re-uptake of of epineprhine (released by the ephedrine). As this substance increases in levels in the body, it causes in increased risk of myocardial infarction. In other words, I don't reco the E plus the Y, and those two you've asked about would do just that.

Yohimbine is an alpha 2 adrenoreceptor antagonist meaning it will block these receptors which normally serve to regulate noradrenaline/norepinephrine levels via negative feedback. Net result is increased NE. Adding ephedrine could exacerbate this, but as ephedrines effect is merely to displace NE stored in neurones, this may not have as much of an effect as usual because the yohimbine would have meant more NE release so less would be stored in the first place.....
With respect to the MAOIs, any supplement containing a MAO-A inhibitor would have to warn against eating foods containing tryptamine such as cheese and some wines, or a fatal hypertension and stroke could occur. Thus to my knowledge MAO-B inhibitors are more likely to be used like in basic cuts, as MAO-A is the isoform that metabolises NE.

The risk would be mainly that of getting an arrythmia

anthonyprs

12-19-2006, 11:56 AM

Hydroxycut hardcore all the way!!!

starang

12-19-2006, 03:01 PM

I've gotten so much useful information from this forum ever since I've joined it. It's great :)

I have a question about Lipo-6

I realize it's ephedra free which is a definite plus for me, but does have caffeine.

I'm a noob here just trying to learn so bear with me. My question is this, I've never been too big of a fan of caffeine either but my body recieves it ok. After a certain point however I get shaky. I'm not aware what constitute a high level of caffeine but I see that Lipo-6 has 200mg of it.

Should I just look for a stimulant free fat burner instead or would I be ok using this?

Thanks in advance

thekid83

12-19-2006, 04:56 PM

started lipo last thursday
did the one and one as recommended
noticed after the first pill that i felt strangely "buzzed" or smashed
same after the second in the afternoon
friday the symptoms had disappeared
yesterday, i started with two and two (the recommended dose) and didn't have any buzzed feelings
i hope it's working!

other supps: size on, sp250, whey, multi
(halodrol in january)

32yo, 5'11/225, bp: 365/ip: 315/squat: 405 for a few

starang

12-19-2006, 05:12 PM

brainformuscle

12-19-2006, 07:13 PM

Lipo-6

thekid83

12-20-2006, 05:04 AM

truthfully, the whole day

but considering the fact that i average two medium dunkin donuts black coffees before noon and lipo has caffeine and synephrine might have something to do with it

anth28

12-20-2006, 06:11 AM

I am currently using Red Acid Gen 2 by Controlled Labs, and its not too bad. Definitley helps me work up a sweat. Not much in the energy/appetite suppression dept though in my case...

anth28

12-20-2006, 06:13 AM

Emagrece Sim is a brasilian product. But it is now banned for some reason. I took it for one month and lost 25 pounds. It was such a great product! The woman who formulated it is now in prison for some odd reason.. lol. I went from 145lbs to 117lbs in a month.

Found this about whats in that product:

"After testing - the diet pills were found to contain any of the following:

* Chlordiazepoxide HCl (the active ingredient in Librium)
* Fluoxetine HCl (the active ingredient in Prozac)
* Fenproporex, a stimulant that is not approved for marketing in the United States. Fenproporex is converted in the body to amphetamine, and as a result has been noted to show up in urinalysis as a positive test for amphetamines."

No thanks...

thekid83

12-20-2006, 04:23 PM

after spending some time researching/googling synephrine, guggelsterones, and the other **** in lipo, i think i'm done with it

i've been taking supplements since '91 and the original hot stuff and the only **** that works is protein, creatine, and a multi (the juice notwithstanding)

i just fell for the shiny label...

lindseyishh

12-21-2006, 06:31 AM

Has anyone had experience with Stim X vs. Lipo 6?

Tony818

12-27-2006, 12:35 PM

tried hydroxicut would this be a good thing to take also is there any cheap affective brands that do the same

bubba0216

12-27-2006, 07:25 PM

uhockey

12-28-2006, 01:02 AM

My best success has been with Scorch. Lost about 15 pounds in 4 weeks with it (think some was water weight though), but I was also doing cardio and weight training frequently and had my diet fairly in check.

I also had pretty good success with Melting Point and Basic Cuts stacked, although my vote would still go with Scorch.

Both are excellent. For a single product stim, Scorch is VERY hard to beat. For a stim/non-stim combo, Melting Point + Scorch is downright effective.

ulter

12-28-2006, 06:43 AM

Thermorexin is better than scorch. There's nothing better for dieting.
Red Blast is the best workout formula.

jkeithc82

12-28-2006, 07:16 AM

Thermorexin is better than scorch. There's nothing better for dieting.
Red Blast is the best workout formula.

Well hello old friend ;)

Do say hello to Krank or Krap or whatever his name is for me. ;)

storm9

01-02-2007, 05:57 PM

animal cuts is good

Lawn Man

01-02-2007, 07:23 PM

just started animal cuts today. ill let you know how it goes. im currently at 205 and by summer i would like to be at 180-185. or gain tons of muscle and lose tons of fat and get to 210

Moose`ca

01-02-2007, 11:46 PM

after this gonna give lipo-6 a try, see where it goes from there..

I'm back!

burnerusaf

01-04-2007, 06:39 PM

I wanna burn the fat off, and wanna take a fat burner....but is it gonna lose my appetite. I wanna still have my 4-6 meals a day, but affraid if I take lipo-6 or Hydroxy, that I wont wanna eat.....let me know....appreciate it!!!

tim sahr

01-04-2007, 07:08 PM

lipo 6 is ok i used it. i still ate 4 - 6 meals a day to get ready for natl.

muscle_worker

01-08-2007, 02:51 AM

im down to lipo, scorch, Fyre, or stim-x. What is the best way to go? Or is it still the good old green tea. info would be great. All opinions seem to be getting good responses...

ClayBot

01-08-2007, 10:59 AM

which is the best that isn't a pill?

pokerhard16

01-10-2007, 07:19 PM

Ive taken alot of different fatburners including lipo -6 most recently and they all did really nothing for me.I just started taking stimulant-x and this stuff is amazing.Increased energy throughout the whole day,no mood swings,clean feeling,Decreased appt. but yet able to eat my 6 small meals.I just thought i would share with everyone.

kallumbuild

01-11-2007, 10:56 AM

im thinking of buying some fat burners from my local bodybuilding shop i think there called stacked??!! cant remeber though but any other options for me, jus a lil bit of fat to lose but like us all we want it gone ASAP lol cheers.

NICURT

01-14-2007, 01:03 PM

In summary, so far, we have a 21 page thread. Anyone see a common theme here?

1) Everyone's body is a little different. Some products seem to work for some, but not everyone. Some people just can shed the pounds pretty easily, some have to work at it, and some (myself) can bust their butt doing hours of cardio, eating right, popping these pills, and not seem to have any change in their body fat at all.

2) Perhaps a little trial and error, time and money will find what works best for you.

3) Getting yourself on the right diet...for you, is probably every bit as important as anything. Again, what works well for some, might not work for you.

It's all a frustrating process. Some seem to get it right, right at the start and never have to look back. Some have the genetics. Some have their young age. I've tried everything it seems. Nothing has worked so far. I can gain strength and muscle, no problem. I can diet, cardio, fat burners, and I still can't loose the 3 inch thick layer of fat on my gut. Been that way for years. I'm still searching for the right combination.

Lawn Man

01-14-2007, 01:12 PM

animal cuts is working great for me!!!! ive lost about 6 pounds in almost 2 weeks and can see a huge differece in my clothes and my stomach. ive also watched what i ate very closely and done 30 min of cardio a night.

cap10raygun

01-15-2007, 10:17 AM

Lawn Man

01-15-2007, 06:47 PM

9. they go down easy, i think. i swallow them all at once with a big gulp of water

hashmiss

01-15-2007, 11:39 PM

cap10raygun

01-16-2007, 04:25 AM

9. they go down easy, i think. i swallow them all at once with a big gulp of water

Thats a lot of pills lol. My roommate is taking animal pump and its a whole bunch of pills as well. I cant take that many pills because I have a really bad gag reflex. I have trouble taking 2 pills sometimes.

Lawn Man

01-16-2007, 12:59 PM

Thats a lot of pills lol. My roommate is taking animal pump and its a whole bunch of pills as well. I cant take that many pills because I have a really bad gag reflex. I have trouble taking 2 pills sometimes.

hows your roommate doing with the animal pump? how many pills are in that pack? is he seeing some pretty good gains with it?

cap10raygun

01-16-2007, 03:57 PM

hows your roommate doing with the animal pump? how many pills are in that pack? is he seeing some pretty good gains with it?

Well he just got it last week so I havent bothered asking him about it. I'll probably let you know in a couple of weeks or so. Might be longer though because he went snowboarding this week and I doubt he'll be taking them on his trip. Theres 9 pills in the pack as well.

Lawn Man

01-16-2007, 08:37 PM

Well he just got it last week so I havent bothered asking him about it. I'll probably let you know in a couple of weeks or so. Might be longer though because he went snowboarding this week and I doubt he'll be taking them on his trip. Theres 9 pills in the pack as well.

ok. thanks

cap10raygun

01-17-2007, 12:45 AM

Hi all,

I can't take capsules, dietary restrictions, (the gel caps are made of animal fat) I was wondering if anyone can suggest lipo 6 alternative in a tablet form.
Would really appreciate any or all help.... thanks

You can try the Redline in syrup form. I dont really know of any other syrup form fatburners or ones that come in tablets. Most of the pills I've taken have been gelcaps.

Trashard

01-17-2007, 06:31 AM

Has anyone tried the new Adipokinetix? I know there was almost a cult following for the old formula but wondering anyone has tried the recently released new version yet?

Miami

01-17-2007, 09:39 AM

What do you guys think about Lipodrene with ephedra, the Nutrition store I go to has quite a few bottles left over before the ban .. is it any good?

joshy22

01-17-2007, 11:39 PM

PHENTERFEIN most of u havent heard of it but look it up on the web. Very potent! Im on it and shredding like crazy. I lost 6 pounds in one week.

eckoplex

01-18-2007, 10:17 PM

hey so i just ordered animal cuts and syntrax fyre. duno if i should take em together or finish 1 and use the other for my next cut. ne advice on how to do this? thanks guys

ManOwarrior86

01-19-2007, 12:04 PM

The best ephedra-free fat burner is a solid diet.

OutstandingO

01-22-2007, 10:25 AM

Right now I'm talking Hydroxycut: Hardcore and I'm not feeling to much. Is there anything else that you guys would recommend or anything that I could use in combination with this??

Homer_Jay

01-27-2007, 11:26 AM

Phenterfein hands down, is the best. I have tried everything, and this product is the best since the old school hydroxycut with ephedra.

lookforterry

01-30-2007, 12:59 AM

Anyone here can advise what is the best to stack with Guggol + Beta 3 combination?

Is Yohimbine HCL advisable to stack together with the Guggol+Beta3 combo?

Daryl_E

01-30-2007, 08:02 AM

I am just starting on the suppliments. all i take i protein after work out. I am working out but there is a layer of fat i really want to get rid of.

I am looking at the follwoing options

Stacker 2
Hydroxycut harcore

I like the sound of the Stacker 2 as the reviews seem good and taking it with ephedra sounds like a great combination. What are the effects of taking it with and without ephedra and also do you take on stacker 2 and one ephedra before meals?

would really like to start as soon as i can as the prospect of losing the weight is exciting as i can feel the body underneath. Obviously i am not after next day effects like most people. I also need to find a complete 7 day diet if anyone can help me out with it

I am 20 years old 6ft 2" and 15 Stone dead

thanks for the help guys

anteyeiabazele

01-30-2007, 11:06 AM

Phenterfein hands down, is the best. I have tried everything, and this product is the best since the old school hydroxycut with ephedra.

I read in to this fat burner and it says it supresses appetite.
We need a fat burner that burns fat not supresses appetite i mean the whole point of bodybuilding is eating!
(The right food ofcourse)

gfundaro

01-30-2007, 08:16 PM

I've been using Glucomannan and SAN Tight for a couple weeks. I don't know yet if the Gluco is doing anything, but the Tight really gives me some crazy energy. I run for 40 minutes around my apartment complex without getting tired, and that never used to happen. I've lost a few pounds in the past two weeks, but I never judge my progress by weight as I've been trying to add some muscle mass to my upper body. I haven't yet gotten my body fat measured, but I'll write again when I do. The thing I really like about Tight is that it doesn't give me the jitters or mess with my digestive tract, and I sleep fine at night. Plus, you only need one a day, so you're not buying 120 capsules just to take 6 a day.

typennington

02-01-2007, 07:07 AM

Over the summer I used EAS Thermo Dynamx with a bottle of SAN Shredded along with intense sports training. 18 Pounds of fat melted right off and hasn't come back

Kumquatv1

02-01-2007, 02:03 PM

I started Adipo 6 on Sunday and so far it has been great. I will let ya'll know when I finish a cycle of it.

BigSwoL

02-02-2007, 07:38 AM

What do you guys think about Lipodrene with ephedra, the Nutrition store I go to has quite a few bottles left over before the ban .. is it any good?

the best i am on it right now.

RyanMegaphors

02-07-2007, 07:16 AM

Stuck between Lipo-6, Stim-X, or Phentefein now...

Lipo-6 seems to have 2 formulas, both ephedra free. Any differences?

anteyeiabazele

02-07-2007, 08:19 AM

Any insight on Fitogen's the burn for Men?

anteyeiabazele

02-07-2007, 09:19 AM

any insight on myoffeine?
Lipovox?
Which Lipodrene is the one that has ephedra in it cause there's a few of them out there?

RyanMegaphors

02-08-2007, 08:42 AM

Day 1 of Lipo-6:

Took 2 pills a few hours ago. No effects yet. No decreased hunger. No thermogenic effects noticed yet. Will keep updating.

djshortsleeve

02-08-2007, 07:04 PM

Took this a couple times this week in the afternoon for a boost. It worked well and got me in the zone to produce. I also found it hard to eat because I had a minimal appetite.

RyanMegaphors

02-09-2007, 08:28 AM

Took 2 pills in the morning, 2 around 4pm. No effects from either. No loss of appetite...no energy boost. I'm starting to wonder if it's BS.

sandman06

02-09-2007, 10:59 AM

ok. thanks

I am using the animal stak 2 its working great for me...has anyone tried the hydroxycut hardcore?

sackoffilth

02-10-2007, 05:02 PM

hydroxycut hardcore didnt have any effect on me except for a slight headache which followed the ingestion with the pills, now on syntrax fyre and it seems to work alot better

Kate~

02-11-2007, 06:35 AM

What do you guys think about Lipodrene with ephedra, the Nutrition store I go to has quite a few bottles left over before the ban .. is it any good?
Miami..I have tried it..yes..I love it..great preworkout stim..its the lipodrene thats yellow

Miami

02-11-2007, 02:24 PM

Miami..I have tried it..yes..I love it..great preworkout stim..its the lipodrene thats yellow

Thats the one Kate, thanx for the input sweetie

RyanMegaphors

02-14-2007, 09:36 AM

It's now been near a week of use...I guess it does work a bit...but there's no energy boost, nor does it feel anywhere even close to the thermogenic properties of say...an ECA stack.

If I take 2 like an hour before normal eating time, I notice a slight lack in appetite...but no increased energy or anything of that nature.

So far, I'd give it a 6/10 rating...but I'm going to continue it and see if progress improves.

zombull

02-15-2007, 04:03 PM

I like Anadrox Pump&Burn and Lean System 7.I know many people have been down on theses but I have used them and had success with a healthy diet and training routine.

anteyeiabazele

02-16-2007, 11:40 AM

when taking fat burners are u supposed to cut down on eating? How do u keep ur muscle mass if u dont eat can somone answer please... im on HOT ROX 5x been using it for a week but dont see any changes however i eat regularly but healthy... am i supposed to cut down on food? How will i then get my protein requirements... whats teh carb count that im supposed to ahve per day?

BigSavage

02-20-2007, 08:28 AM

I've tried Dymatize Thermaburn Extreme and NxCare Ripped and had awesome workouts and results. I lost 26lbs in 12 weeks on Ripped.

3kgtjunkie

02-21-2007, 09:19 AM

I've tried Dymatize Thermaburn Extreme and NxCare Ripped and had awesome workouts and results. I lost 26lbs in 12 weeks on Ripped.
I concur good sir, methyl ripped worked well for me

blacksuperman

02-24-2007, 02:13 AM

Has anyone compared the SAN Tight! VS. the SAN Tight! HARDCORE?
Which was better, and why?

Dublo

02-24-2007, 07:30 AM

Man, Venom looks really good. Too bad I can't get it in Australia because of the Hoodia.

ceenote00

02-24-2007, 08:08 AM

which fat burner do you guys think is the best to us?

djleynaert

02-25-2007, 02:16 AM

Nutrex Lipo 6 is my favo

Turco

02-27-2007, 09:50 AM

I've been using Animal Cuts for a few days now, and I just found out that "diuretics" are on the list of INBA's banned substances.

Animal Cuts has a "Diuretic Complex" that has the following:
Dandelion Extract (taraxol, taraxerol)
Uva Ursi Extract (arbutin, methyl-arbutin)

Now, I don't see these particular ingredients on the list of banned substances, but the list also says "and related substances".

I guess my question is if Animal Cuts is ok for a natural bodybuilding comp? does anyone know?
I have my first INBA competition this summer, and they are very strict with their testing.

sasamil85

02-27-2007, 05:15 PM

you can visit www.sasa.bigmoron.com. .. interesting stuff

Lndy110

03-03-2007, 12:02 AM

hydroxycut hardcore - definitely...I lost almost 40lbs on it last year... no jitters...it's a little pricy, but I think it's worth it.. It's got the "aspirin" (being willow bark) and caffeine, (2 out of the 3 stack ingredients that make ephedra so famous..) - and it's also got the green tea extract.. A lot of bang for the buck... I love it..

HemiRamOn20s

03-03-2007, 02:37 PM

they have a lipo 6X out now which is similar to Hydroxycut Hardcore.

I just picked up a bottle of HH yesterday at GNC and im going to start taking it tomorrow. Ill let you guys know how I like it.

kennethcr

03-05-2007, 09:25 AM

any updates from anyone of good fat burners or stacks to cut fat?

dpihitithard

03-05-2007, 10:16 AM

i just got done using **** Venom Hyperdrive 3.0...

Its by far the best supplement wthout ephedra i have used. Ive used hydoxycut, hydroxycut hardcore, xenadrine, blahh

I used one bottle(90Pills) in about 48 days and lost a good 15-17lbs of body fat(220-202)...with proper nutrition, hardcore lifting(4 years experience), and cardio 6 times per week. You wont get results like you want withoutthe effort.

Venom ALL THE WAY!

TS2Fast50187

03-05-2007, 07:53 PM

Any one every try combining two of these fat burners like Hot Rox and Lipo 6 so they work in concert together. Also I got some of this stuff called Jet Feul by German American Technologies pretty amazing stuff.

JHICKS3301

03-05-2007, 07:57 PM

Miami..I have tried it..yes..I love it..great preworkout stim..its the lipodrene thats yellow

I own and I love it.... Finishin up my First Bottle

blacksuperman

03-05-2007, 11:31 PM

I decided to stack MHP Anadrox with SAN Tight!
I will keep you posted on my results. I've been on this stack for 3-4 days now. So far I think I am getting a bit more definition, however, I am confident that it is all in my head.

I will tell you that so far I have noticed increased sweating and I am AMPED! nearly all day and a beast in the gym. Much easier to force out additional reps while fatigued.

Will keep all posted...

Any one every try combining two of these fat burners like Hot Rox and Lipo 6 so they work in concert together. Also I got some of this stuff called Jet Feul by German American Technologies pretty amazing stuff.

blacksuperman

03-05-2007, 11:35 PM

My fiance and myself have tried LIPO6 and it was a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT.
We noticed no additional energy, or decreased hunger. The weight loss that was achieved could easily have been done with out this supplement. Fiance lost about 8 pounds in a month. She has done that in the past with out supplements at all. LIPO6 was a waste. Not sure how it gets such a high rating from bb.com

warbird00

03-05-2007, 11:46 PM

im currently using Leviathan which is a revolutionary product
its a fat burner/test booster
you can check out my log here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1371761
last past 3 weeks i have lost 2 lbs and gained 1 lb of muscle
also my lifts have are increasing just as much as they would on a bulk and im in a -600 calorie deficit :eek:

TS2Fast50187

03-06-2007, 01:27 PM

Check out these combos....

Anadrox and Take Off by MHP

Hydroxycut Hardcore and Thermo Gain by Muscletech

Lipo 6 by Nutrex and Hot Rox by BioTest

Any takers?

pureiceman

03-06-2007, 07:38 PM

Hydroxycut Hardcore!!!!!!!!

TheJman128

03-06-2007, 08:59 PM

Hydroxy Cut: Hardcore!

TS2Fast50187

03-07-2007, 11:04 AM

Any one tried 2 Shredded?

safetydoug

03-10-2007, 11:05 AM

I am 43 years old, work out regularly, minimum 4 of 7 days, along with a good diet and supplementation. I have found Biotest Hot Rox Extreme to be an excellent product. No side effects or overstimulation. It has worked so well that coworkers have asked for it based on my results. (They were using Hydroxycut or Hydroxycut Hardcore and were not happy with the results. Especially the overstimulation of Hardcore.) Other products I have used in the past 2 years (2 bottle min.): Hydroxycut, Xenadrine EFX, Jet Fuel and Leanfire. I rate them in the following order based only on my experience: 1. Biotest Hot Rox Extreme 2. InStone Leanfire 3. Xenadrine EFX 4. Jet Fuel 5. Hydroxycut. Do your homework, read reviews by users and don't just rely on product endorsements. Exercise, eat and sleep right! Then you'll see results.

ajrl56

03-10-2007, 02:25 PM

what is better. I am trying to get to 13 percent bodyfat. I currently weight 235 and have 20 percent bodyfat. I want to add a thermogenic in to help. Is Leviathan worth trying or does someone have a better suggestion? I am 19 and want to be around 13 bodyfat by the end of june.

hrlykid83

03-10-2007, 04:08 PM

I do believe that Lipo-6 has been given a good rep? and feed back?

bill4588

03-10-2007, 06:55 PM

lipo 6 didn't work for me. Hydroxycut Hardcore however gave me great results. I lost more fat on HH in one week that I did with lipo 6 in a whole month. But everyone's different...

cabocoleman

03-10-2007, 09:39 PM

I haven't tried Lipo 6....but I've read good reviews on it. It won best fat burner in 2005 by Bodybuilding.com. So is the hype all hype or has substance? Please give advice.

MuscleMonster

03-11-2007, 10:44 AM

I tried using some stupid green tea supplement thing to lose weight, that didnt do anything but make my piss smell weird....
I've also tried stacker2 which seemed to have gotten the job done, although with running around all day on caffine highs, i dont know that i noticed a difference.
has anyone tried Boiling Point from Star Chem Labs? i saw their ad at the Arnold show.

Brenten

03-11-2007, 11:45 AM

I just started a MAN Scorch and MAN Vaporize Stack today, I will let you know how it goes. I have heard awesome things and read great reviews.

Malachai

03-12-2007, 11:10 AM

Well I tried Lipo 6 for the first 2 weeks it worked fine, then I started noticing it was putting me to sleep... I only 2 pills in one day. I stayed off for a month to clean my system. I started again and sure enough it had the same effect.

I guess my body is use to it now...

What do you think of stimulant-x? I'm trying to lose some body fat plus also gain muscle. Right now I'm 225 with a gut...hahah

Any feed back would be good.

-Malachai-

GENTIMI

03-12-2007, 05:29 PM

Anyone know anything GOOD/BAD about "ThermoGain" by MuscleTech

GENTIMI

03-12-2007, 05:30 PM

Anyone know anything GOOD/BAD about "ThermoGain" by MuscleTech

TheMyth

03-14-2007, 08:27 AM

DCP by Recomp Performance Nutrition is the best I have ever tried. For me it was better than clen. Dsade's copmpany makes it.

profive_o

03-15-2007, 11:18 AM

Lipo 6 didn't work for me, some heart burn
Hydroycut Hardcore gave me minimal energy, and no weight loss

Lipodrene is what I am on right now, and I love it. I work full time and go to school full time, and I'm married. Along with weight lifting, that is a pretty busy schedule. Liporene gives me incredible energy, and great fat loss, and for only 30 bucks, buy it before its banned.

6'
240lbs
22% bf (not for long)

afashionado

03-16-2007, 01:44 PM

Hi all,

I have been reading these posts, but I have to say I am not sure why people are finding that Lipo 6 works any better (or worse) than S.A.N. Tight. If you look at their ingredients, they are almost exactly the same, and in fact Tight has more ingredients....

Lipo 6:

120 Liqui-Caps
Supplement Facts
Serving Size2Liqui-Cap

Synephrine 20mg *
Synthetic 99% Guggulsterones Z&E 1:1 20mg *
Yohimbine HCL 3mg *
Caffeine Anhydrous USP 200mg *
Bioperine

S.A.N Tight:

Serving Size: 1 capsule
Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving:

Caffeine Anhydrous 200mg
Synephrine HCl 99.9% 20mg
Forslean� 95% 20 mg
Synthetic Guggulsterones Z&E 99.9% 20mg
Yohimbine HCl 99.9% 5mg
Vinpocetine 99.9% 5mg
Bioperine� 96.9% 5mg

As you can see, not only does Tight have the same stuff in 1 capsule compared to 2 of the Lipo 6, it also has Forslean and Vinopectine.....

I am not for or against either, because I am still trying to figure out what, if anything, can ever replace the ECA stack for me, but as for these 2 "popular" products, there doesn't seem to be more of a difference that preference...

That's just my 2 cents.....

quijibo

03-17-2007, 05:54 PM

None of the ephedra free products did jack for me, and I tried a **** load. You can still get ephedrine HCL legally with guafinesen, and I would just buy that instead of wasting your money.

I know everyone responds differently, but again Lipo 6, Hot Rox, Dymetadrine Xtreme Ephedra Free, etc. none of them did anything nor gave me that ephedrine buzz.

95zj

03-17-2007, 07:08 PM

How's MAN Scorch, and would you reccomend it for someone my age?

warbird00

03-17-2007, 11:44 PM

whats up with all these ppl thinking hydroxycut, lipo-6 and all these hype supps are good??
why not listen to ppl who actaully know something on these board recoment such as scorch, EC, or a non stim such as melting point?

Cook1977

03-18-2007, 12:51 PM

Stimerex ES by Hi-Tech is what I'm using now. It gives me great energy and lasts for a while. It's also one pill, which is nice.

rhaas

03-18-2007, 10:59 PM

I have always used the original version of Twin Labs ripped fuel. It was the best for getting shredded. I tried the new formula called extreme. They should not call it extreme. It sucks! I went on a search and tried Lipo 6, stacker, and hydroxycut hardcore. They all sucked! They do not work. I tried stim x and it felt like I did a line of some nasty crank or meth. It had me tweaked out for hours and could not eat alone do a work out.

For me, nothing replaces good ol' ripped fuel!

kendog

03-19-2007, 12:49 PM

Taking man scorch for about 2 weeks so far.. nothing really jumping out at me as far as results. my diet has been as clean as it has EVER been and yesterday i only consumed about 2200 calories with not too many carbs. nonetheless the fat does seem to be very slowly coming off but scorch doesn't really seem to be doing much, its just so hard to tell though

Rap_Rocky

03-20-2007, 09:54 AM

I'd have to go with Lean System 7

HemiRamOn20s

03-22-2007, 04:25 AM

Hydroxycut Hardcore is good stuff. Just drink plenty of water and bust your ass in the gym and you will see the results. And dont forget to eat right.

Iceman85

03-22-2007, 08:31 AM

I'm in my second week on Venom by ALR. They recommend that you take one pill to test your tolerance for the first 7 to 10 days. I definitely saw an increase in energy levels. I had an increase in focus as well which was nice. I was able to go 3.5 hours without craving food. I started to become a little bit used to the results, and decided to try two pills today (7 days later). Anyways, this morning I was really jittery. Everything seemed to speed up. I got the "nervous stomach." I still have it right now as I type at home. Anyways, point being, the effects have been very noticable, but don't push your tolerance. It's good stuff when on the right dosable.

TheLivingEnd

03-22-2007, 10:13 AM

Yeah. HH definitely gives you more energy. After the break-in period, you're taking in as much caffein as 6 cups of coffee per day... I believe. I went through a bottle at the beginning of my cutting phase. It did raise my temp, as I was sweating more throughout the day and had much more energy to expel. People at work (now) say that I "acted differently" when I took it last summer.

HOWEVER, I got much better results from dropping daily cal intakes and eating cleaner. I lost 40 pounds in 4 and 1/2 months! Granted, a lot of that was muscle loss because I was studying for board exams and not lifting AT ALL. However, I should post my "before" picture... the amount of bodyfat that I shed was unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!! HH didn't do it all, but it definitely kickstarted the whole ordeal.

slaphappy02

03-22-2007, 11:45 AM

I used Thermogenic thyrotabs and mega-zol last year and they were ok, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me if they are good or if there is anything better to lose fat and weight and just to get cut.
thanks

zoeconner

03-22-2007, 03:39 PM

I been using Lipo 6 for about 2 weeks. I dont feel crap. I take 4 a day. What are you supost to feel like? Im going to take it back and try something else. What should I try?

benchintraining

03-23-2007, 07:43 AM

I tried eating raw chicken that was left out in the sun for about 6 hours. I lost 30 lbs in 5 days :D

AronP24

03-25-2007, 10:45 AM

I tried eating raw chicken that was left out in the sun for about 6 hours. I lost 30 lbs in 5 days :D

ohh that worked for you too?????? LMAO

freddy kruger

03-29-2007, 10:41 AM

hmm... if anyone is interested i might do a write up on using a weightloss suppliment. i'm gunna try and lose some of my fat even though its almost the middle of autumn (fall). i went from 122kg to 78kg. im at about 83kg now, and i'm thinking of cutting when i finish off the last of my max gainer protein.

blacksuperman

03-30-2007, 02:00 AM

Miss M

03-30-2007, 08:01 PM

Is BSN Thermonex any good?

Newman07

04-02-2007, 06:30 PM

Anybody try lipo 6x. Might be just me but its pretty potent. Messed with the lining in my stomach after I killed more then half the bottle. Great energy though last long.

seymourandcrime

04-03-2007, 05:42 PM

I got a bunch of free samples of adipo Kinetix, at a the NPC Mid Illinios show,I know it was banned a while ago. The people I got it from said this was a newer version. Has anyone had any expierence with this product, the new or old version?

JLayer

04-10-2007, 12:50 PM

Has anyone tried cutting w/o using any "fat burners"?
Just by lowering carb/caloric intake and adding cardio to see what can be done on your own?

I'd be very curious to see what could be achieved w/ and w/o the "fat burners".

I've been deployed now for about 3 months. My main goal when I got over here was to shred some weight. To answer your question, I haven't used any "fat burners" in the 3 months that I have been here. I came over here weighing in at 193.

My daily calorie intake is about 1300-1500 clean. Mostly chicken, tuna, steak as meats, and vegetables tha are provided.

My cardio has consisted of 2-3 miles every other day on the treadmill (30 mins max) then followed by 15 mins of ab excercises.

I am pleased to say that I am weighing in at 170 after the 3 months and have noticeable difference in my shape.

Hope that helps you out a little.

LilDragon

04-11-2007, 05:12 AM

I've been reading through this thread, skimming through some, taking my time on others. There definitely seem to be some that stick out from the rest. Lipo 6, SANS, Hydroxycut, and many more. Overall it seems to boil down to your body type and what will stimulate it. The same fat burner that one person uses wont work the same on another person, you just need to find your niche.

Personally I've been deployed for over a month now. The base is pretty big so I end up walking pretty darn often. For the first two weeks I had a decent diet. With all the walking and the heat I still managed to gain 11 pounds and not in the way that I liked, while everyone else was losing weight. I weighed 218, the most I've ever weighed. Two weeks ago I started putting some major cardio time in the gym, adding the beginner workout I got from M & F, and maintaining a clean diet. The PX on base has a limited selection, mostly MuscleTech stuff. Without knowing a thing about the fat burners they have on the market I picked up Ripped Fuel: Fat Burner from Twinlabs during the middle of the two weeks that I've been working out. From the first week, which had more cardio, and the second week, which still has a lot of cardio but more time with the weights, I was losing more fat with RF. First week I brought myself down to 217, now I'm at 214 after the second week. Here they sell a bottle for 14 dollars, pretty cheap compared to the competition. In summary even with the muscle I've been gaining, I'm still losing the fat, and have definitely seen it around my legs, and some around my abs.

LilDragon

04-11-2007, 05:57 AM

joe447

04-11-2007, 06:32 AM

Has anyone tried cutting w/o using any "fat burners"?
Just by lowering carb/caloric intake and adding cardio to see what can be done on your own?

I'd be very curious to see what could be achieved w/ and w/o the "fat burners".

Yea I didn't use any on my first cut, but I was around 230 then and lost down to 180.Then after a nice bulk I amnow currently on my second cut and using Hotrox and they are doing great for me.

Rc81

04-11-2007, 08:20 AM

Got a question. I have been bulking, during my bulk i bought a several tubs of NOSBLAST. I think it is similar to No-Xplode. I now want to cut and continue to take this supplement because i am continuing my regular workout and just cleaning up the diet and doing cardio. I also want to take a fat loss supplement, I was think Lipo6, HotRox, or Hydroxycut Hardcore. These are all stimulates correct? Would it be ok to take Nosblast and a stimulate together or should i go with a non stimulate? Any suggestions on a non stimulate?

JK2006

04-11-2007, 11:13 AM

I have completed my ECA stack and am looking out for my next burner stack. Thermorexin (which has Yohimbine) does not work very well for me (except giving hard ons lol) - so I might try somethign else.

What do you suggest? Man Scorch?

Skigazzi

04-13-2007, 08:29 AM

What do you suggest? Man Scorch?

Scorch is 100% excellent.

Though I will throw in a 100% shameless plug :) for Thermostat from EST, I do believe it to be a pretty nice forumla as well.

JK2006

04-13-2007, 02:48 PM

Scorch is 100% excellent.

Though I will throw in a 100% shameless plug :) for Thermostat from EST, I do believe it to be a pretty nice forumla as well.

How do Scorch and Thermostat compare, content/ingredient wise?

fates_child03

04-14-2007, 12:20 PM

Thermostat is pretty awesome I used it for about 2 months while I was cutting off alot of my weight.

Skigazzi

04-14-2007, 03:46 PM

Thermostat is pretty awesome I used it for about 2 months while I was cutting off alot of my weight.

Great to hear, haven't seen a lot of folks using this yet..hopefully that changes over time!

How do Scorch and Thermostat compare, content/ingredient wise?

The cost is about equal for the recommended servings, just over $1 a day for both.

Thermostat
Niacin 25mg 125%
Vitamin C 15mg 25%

T5 (Thermogenic Phase): 515mg
(caffeine, yerba mate 20%, cayenne pepper, forslean coleus forskolin 20%, capsicum.)

Cort-SP5: 224mg
(Appetite Suppressing Phase)
Simthin, hoodia gordoni 20:1, magnolia bark, phosphatidyl serine 20%

CF3 (Carb Facilitating Phase)
White kidney bean extract 200mg
Chromium polynicotinate 200mcg
Vanadium Chelate 100mcg

D2 (Diuretic Phase) 80mg
Dandelion, Juniper berry extract.

Scorch
Lean Green Green Tea SE: 250mg
-(90% Catechins, 60% EGCG)
-Total EGCG Per Serving: 150mg
P2 Oolong Tea SE: 250 mg
-(30% Polymerized Polyphenols, 10% EGCG)
-Total Polymerized Polyphenols Per Serving: 75mg
-Total EGCG Per Serving: 25mg
Caffeine USP: 200mg
XN? Xanthinol Nicotinate: 150mg
RK Raspberry Ketones?: 125mg
Evodiamine 99%: 50mg
Coleus Forskholii SE (root, 40% Forskolin): 50mg
Ginger Root (5% gingerols & Shogaols): 50mg
Synephrine 99%: 20mg
Bioperine?: 5mg

Both solid formulas, both pack enough energy punch, scorch is slightly more focused on upping metabolism, while Thermostat is more balanced across a few goals : addressing metabolism, appetite, carb shuttling, and cutting a little water weight.

dlim1120

04-14-2007, 06:59 PM

Is Lipo 6X any good?

Skigazzi

04-14-2007, 07:12 PM

Is Lipo 6X any good?

I literally just looked at that for the first time....its being touted as a thyroid booster, but I think there are better thyroid supps out there, Dicana and Thyrotabs come to mind.

Besides some weak thyroid boosters, its bascially caffeine / yohimbe / synephrine...stimulants that will slightly raise metabolism, and might reduce appetite.

If you wanna go the thyroid route (which I think you should hold off on that at your age), Dicana stacked with Thermostat or Scorch would be good, or for a low stim approach, Dicana , a quality green tea extract, and Sesaglow would be extremely synergistic.

dlim1120

04-14-2007, 07:24 PM

thx a lot fer the reply

Jackdiesel3627

04-14-2007, 10:14 PM

Honestly...do these diet pills work?

I tried SAN Tight for about 3 weeks and no results. I lift 4 days a week with the football team and Im trying to lose. Im 5'8, 203lbs and I want to be around 185...I have an Ok diet but it is hard to maintain because of a long school day.

What pills are recommended? I dont care if they are stimulated just as long as the caffeine does not exceed 200mg.

Thanks

68Muscle

04-15-2007, 09:37 AM

Lipo-6 works great for me. Keeps the fat off. But the main thing is, to stay active in the gym or something.

Spiff2000

04-15-2007, 02:32 PM

Has anyone used these are they worth a try? Ive been told its the best but you need to use an added fat burner for best results...

Jackdiesel3627

04-15-2007, 02:52 PM

Did anyone try both hotrox and lipo 6? Which is better for someone who wants to lose about 15 lbs, aka me?

rangerkid2187

04-17-2007, 07:40 PM

ive been using san tight!hardcore for about 3 weeks now, one 2 pill dose in the morning before my workout on an empty stomach and ive lost about a lb a week so far while also doing carb cycling, 1 day no carb, 2 day low carb, 1 high carb, then back to zero carb

Spiff2000

04-18-2007, 07:05 AM

Did anyone try both hotrox and lipo 6? Which is better for someone who wants to lose about 15 lbs, aka me?

I've used both but not at the same time, personally i liked hotrox better as a fat burner i felt llike i got better results with it but both are great for an energy boost..

dlim1120

04-18-2007, 04:49 PM

anyone try thermogain by muscletech? awfully enticing... creatine + thermogenics

crimjust02769

04-20-2007, 05:27 PM

IrockZ

04-20-2007, 07:02 PM

Has anybody ever used clenbuterol to lose weight? I'm curious to know how effective it is. I have been told it give you lots of energy and can really melt the fat away if you follow a good exercise and diet plan. ???

horrible side effects, better off with a ec stack, unless ur already on gear, then u might wanna do a cycle with some clen and winny, but if ur clean right now stick with basic ephedrine stacked with a yohimbe based fatburner like lipo 6 or jet fuel.. im doin that with great results

crimjust02769

04-21-2007, 08:49 PM

guitarmaster2k

04-22-2007, 01:58 PM

Okay I'm a female so I doubt I would be using Winny :)
But I'm curious to know what the side effects are with clen?
There is also nothing on the market with ephedrine in it so how am I supposed to get it?

clen will make you shake like nobodies business, i mean, hands trembling so bad you cant write. those were the only side effects i had on it. I had a crappy diet and moderate exercise and still lost about 10 lbs with clen in about a month in a half, but i wouldnt recommend it.

do a search on the bodybuilding.com store for ephedra, they sell it for asthma purposes. buy that and some of the cheap caffeine they sell and stack 1 ephedra with 1 caffeine pill twice a day for about 2 weeks, then 2 ephedra and 1 caffeine. (it depends on what kind of caffeine pills you get, but you dont want to exceed 300mg a day)

Lubnani

04-22-2007, 02:23 PM

I am going to test Animal Cuts in May.

But from what I hear, it works well.

RusnConcussion

04-26-2007, 11:05 AM

Animal Cuts is great imo, and its fun popping the 18 pills a day with it too ;) I like its formula and it's working well with my current cut.

I tried gnc cuts before but didnt like them much, and i thought E/C made me too shakey, however looking back on it I may have been overdoing the coffee intake during that time because I was pulling a lot of late nights around that time.

cuqduke

04-27-2007, 03:15 PM

I am getting ready to do a serious cutting phase. I am going to use the Lipo 6. I'm fairly new to the whole supplement side of this. Would it benefit me to take some sort of creatine with the burner during my cut phase? I would think it would help muscle size, and cut the fat. Am I wrong?

hardgainer421

04-28-2007, 07:14 AM

Be carefull with fat burners if you want to build muscle and loose fat at the same time, alot of fat burners actually make you lose muscle too because the caffine make your body make extra cortisol, and that stuff kills muscle from what I've read about it. It's happend to me with oter fat bunrers in the past, I lose all the fat I want to loose, but also always end up loosing some muscle too. That ain't good for me cause I don't put on mucle all that easy.

Right now I'm trying a new product from Healthy 'N Fit called Thermogize. I put on about 20 pounds this winter (10 of which are muscle ), so now I gotta lose those 10 pounds of fat, but I don't want to lose any of that muscle. Thermogize is supposed to be made to help you keep all your muscle while you burn fat. So far it's been great and I've lost about 4 pounds of fat, I'll keep you posted on how it goes.

Mary_587

04-30-2007, 01:03 PM

Help!
I have been using the ECA stack for almost a year now and lost a lot of weight within the first 10 months. I seem to be at a plato and cannot lose any more!. I only eat healthly food and I go to the gym 4-5 times a week. I was thinking of adding 350mg of green tea to the stack, Im not sure if it will make much difference. Has anyone had a similar problem? or any advice.

msindependent

05-01-2007, 07:55 AM

Redline makes me feel terrible.... nauseated as heck. I'm taking Lipo6 right now and I've taken Zantrex, Hydroxy Cut and several others, nothing seems to help suppress my appetite anymore. I honestly think it's mental of me though.... If I'm depressed I don't eat and tend to lose a lot of weight.... If I'm happy nothing works and I tend to binge from time to time..... especially if I'm stressed. I'm thinking about trying T2 & Dyma-Burn Extreme but again.... I like a lot of it is mental. Good luck to all and take care. :)

msindependent

05-01-2007, 07:58 AM

Does it not make you sick.... I have the liquid too. Maybe I should not drink it on an empty stomach. Good luck.... :)

msindependent

05-01-2007, 08:16 AM

Scorth Remix is OUT OF STOCK at BB.com. It must be popular!!! Thanks! I'll add it to my list to try when it's back in stock.

52djhsfb

05-01-2007, 08:39 AM

This is the only fat burner thats worked for me ive lost 10lbs. of fat in one week. Another thing that might work is lipovox.

msindependent

05-01-2007, 08:50 AM

I took Hydroxycut years ago before they changed the formula. I'm weird.... it just takes a lot for my body to respond. Pain pills don't work, prescription sleeping pills don't work. And, I don't do illegal drugs.... so I really don't know why my body doesn't respond well. :)

prospect_1

05-03-2007, 03:41 AM

This is the only fat burner thats worked for me ive lost 10lbs. of fat in one week. Another thing that might work is lipovox.

10 LBS. OF FAT IN ONE WEEK?????

Driven77

05-03-2007, 06:53 AM

I am getting ready for my first show. I used lipodrine with ephdra. I took 2 in the morning before my cardio and 1 before my workout. It worked well for me and would recommend it to others.

s.morgan

05-03-2007, 09:00 AM

This is the only fat burner thats worked for me ive lost 10lbs. of fat in one week. Another thing that might work is lipovox.

That crap gave me nose bleeds

s.morgan

05-03-2007, 09:01 AM

Scorth Remix is OUT OF STOCK at BB.com. It must be popular!!! Thanks! I'll add it to my list to try when it's back in stock.

I know. I just started taking Vaporize and I want to stack it with Scorch :(

zxGriffin

05-03-2007, 02:19 PM

With all the supplements out here now adays... What can I do to really maximize my Fat% Loss. I am currently taking 250g Protein aday, consuming 180carbs. Eating the correct balance of fats in my diet that my body needs of course. My diet is consistant in that I eat 5-6 times aday with some smaller meals to boost my metabolism periodically. On weekends one day a week I will have a "cheat" meal, little more fat + calories to turn on fat burning for my body. Every day I do 60-70 minutes of straight intense cardio, after a 45 minute lift. I am on a High-frequency, Medium rep (8-12 reps) lifting program right now following a lower frequency- heavier weight- lower rep program to mix it up for my body to build muscle. My rest day is Sunday. I am 19- I weight 245 lbs and I am 5'8... I have a real solid thick base, but still have body fat I need to burn - ( 24-23 %) I want to get down to 205-210lbs turning the fat into muscle. I take Glutamine, Flax Seed, Hydroxcut Hardcore, Gold Stand Whey Protein, Double Strength Omega 3 fish oil's- and cycle on and off Anabolic Switch Creatine all in a timely manor. I use the supplements to restore what is lost during workouts. I know being that I'm young naturally I may not need the creatine.. still tough call. I actually felt stronger w/o it on my workouts when I cycled off. I know people say "Eat eat eat... but I've got enough fat stores to burn off and possible transform into muscle.
Any advice would be great!

To keep on topic - I'm on Hydroxycut Hardcore as a primary Fat Burning Supplement. - - Will it help with all posted above?

MrJumpoff

05-04-2007, 09:17 AM

in 3 weeks after my eca cycle, i will attempt to simultaneously use lipo 6x and eca just to see what happens.

FortMajor

05-04-2007, 11:49 AM

where do i get ECA can i order ephedra and caffentine online ?

MrJumpoff

05-04-2007, 12:25 PM

no u cant...u have to get some ephedrine hcl "cough medicine" and for caffeine u cud use ordinary coffee, and the aspirin isnt necessary

mpayan

05-04-2007, 01:38 PM

jamesc23

05-05-2007, 06:01 AM

Im very fat, what should i do. I can't see my dick.

did u try using a magnifier

enjoylife

05-05-2007, 06:06 AM

Firelean!

Pearson666

05-05-2007, 07:39 AM

Whats a good fat burner that suppresses appetite? I see Scorch is popular...

labatia

05-05-2007, 05:24 PM

I need to know if somebody can recomended to take Leviathan and Dicana or any other suggestion taht I can consider. Actally I'm taking HIDROXICUT HARDCORE and it's looks good, also, in the past I took ZEMATHRIN with ephedra. Wich of all of this wiil be the best.

i just ordered myself 3 bottles of the hardcore.. im just waiting for it
trying to get cut is my goal for the next 2 months

MollyD1016

05-05-2007, 07:11 PM

I am getting ready for my first show. I used lipodrine with ephdra. I took 2 in the morning before my cardio and 1 before my workout. It worked well for me and would recommend it to others.

Where did you get lipodrine w/ ephedra? I saw it online & it doesn't say anything about ephedra.

samizmom

05-06-2007, 04:08 PM

there is a supplement called magic herb it helped me to lose 23 pounds in one and a half month
Regarding the magic herb...Were you doing anything other than taking this supplement to lose that much weight in such a short period of time?
Were you dieting? taking this in conjunction with other supplements. lifting?
please elaborate.

Thanks

samizmom

05-06-2007, 04:16 PM

i just ordered myself 3 bottles of the hardcore.. im just waiting for it
trying to get cut is my goal for the next 2 months
Is Hydroxycut hardcore supposed to have an ingredient in there that the previous ephedra free version doesn't have? Cause in my opinion, the ephedra free version is a complete hoax. It may as well be a placebo. I tried the ephedra free version, and it did NOTHING. I was eating like a horse and had no energy. Other people that have taken it, have said the same thing to me.
Did you have luck with it? Or is hardcore your first try? Let me know if Hardcore has any effect on you. I'd be interested to know.
I used to take Hydroxycut (original with ephedra) when it first came out, and that stuff was the BEST! I lost 30 lbs in 3 months. It completely killed my appetite and gave me such an energy boost. I would only take one pill twice a day, way less than it instructed to take, and it was the GREATEST stuff! I miss it so much. lol
Since the ban, I have tried San Tight, and that **** kept me awake for 2 days. I was even taking it first thing in the morning, thinking it would wear off by nightfall. No such luck. I could not sleep if my life depended on it. It also really warmed me up, hot flashes galore. I dumped that bottle quick.
I'm going to try out the magic herb. I'll let you know my experience with it. Let me know how Hardcore works for you. I need something to kill my appetite and keep my energy up.

samizmom

05-06-2007, 04:36 PM

Where did you get lipodrine w/ ephedra? I saw it online & it doesn't say anything about ephedra.
I just looked it up and found this site. I says with ephedra.

http://www.snsupply.com/lipodrene-ephedra.html

MrJumpoff

05-06-2007, 07:40 PM

i've been taking ephedra and hardcore for 4 days now...i take my first dose at 7.30 and the last at 12.30. both 32 mg. and so far no weight loss...wtf?? nothing has changed, no thermogenesis, no side effects, no jitters, its like the **** is goin right through me!! wtf man?????

MollyD1016

05-07-2007, 09:05 AM

Is Hydroxycut hardcore supposed to have an ingredient in there that the previous ephedra free version doesn't have? Cause in my opinion, the ephedra free version is a complete hoax. It may as well be a placebo. I tried the ephedra free version, and it did NOTHING. I was eating like a horse and had no energy. Other people that have taken it, have said the same thing to me.
Did you have luck with it? Or is hardcore your first try? Let me know if Hardcore has any effect on you. I'd be interested to know.
I used to take Hydroxycut (original with ephedra) when it first came out, and that stuff was the BEST! I lost 30 lbs in 3 months. It completely killed my appetite and gave me such an energy boost. I would only take one pill twice a day, way less than it instructed to take, and it was the GREATEST stuff! I miss it so much. lol
Since the ban, I have tried San Tight, and that **** kept me awake for 2 days. I was even taking it first thing in the morning, thinking it would wear off by nightfall. No such luck. I could not sleep if my life depended on it. It also really warmed me up, hot flashes galore. I dumped that bottle quick.
I'm going to try out the magic herb. I'll let you know my experience with it. Let me know how Hardcore works for you. I need something to kill my appetite and keep my energy up.

I have been using Hydroxycut Hardcore since last fall, in the first few months it worked well for me, I lost the last few lbs. of baby fat, but what it did for me was give me more energy. I only took 2 pills first thing in the morning, it gave me a boost to get moving. I'm always hungry, it did nothing for my app.
But as w/ everything else I stopped reacting to it after a few months.

I just looked it up and found this site. I says with ephedra.

http://www.snsupply.com/lipodrene-ephedra.html

Thanks I didn't find that web site. I took the original hydroxycut w/ephedra few years back. That really worked for me. I need to try something different that I can cycle between, to keep my body reacting to it.

GILLY27081980

05-07-2007, 01:51 PM

Hi

Im new to this forum. I am a 26 yr old female, 5 foot 9 inches who is shall we say a big girl who's trying but needs help. At the start of the year I am ashamed to say that I weighed around 22 stone . I have been on a strict diet that I set myself and have been doing some cardio, some weights on my upper body and shoulders etc and today i am sitting just over 19 stone. I have always been a 'big girl' but this time i am determined to do it. I WANT and am going to have a FIT and TONED body.

One of the problems that I have is that I have been using the original Stack 2 (with ephedra) and E.C.A. 30+, I live in the UK and the place that I used to get my supply has closed down. I have tried online to get either of the products but to no avail, all the stack 2 that I could find was ephedra free.

Could anyone please help me??

Could anyone recommend a fat burner to me that would help??

Many thanks

xtrell

05-07-2007, 05:28 PM

I'm looking into starting on a fat burner for the first time- what's it like once the weight is off; is it off for good (assuming you keep your diet in line)? or is your metabolism/body so changed from the supplement it puts the fat right back on once you've stop popping the pills?

NoobyBuilder

05-07-2007, 08:38 PM

I have been using Hydroxycut Hardcore since last fall, in the first few months it worked well for me, I lost the last few lbs. of baby fat, but what it did for me was give me more energy. I only took 2 pills first thing in the morning, it gave me a boost to get moving. I'm always hungry, it did nothing for my app.
But as w/ everything else I stopped reacting to it after a few months.

Thanks I didn't find that web site. I took the original hydroxycut w/ephedra few years back. That really worked for me. I need to try something different that I can cycle between, to keep my body reacting to it.

Hydroxycut
-Caffeine based one
-non caffeine based one
and Hydroxy Cut Hardcore
are all different.....HARDCORE isnt supposed to suppress your appetite its one of the concoctions that help you burn more calories during the day and help in fat oxidation. also burn more when/during your work out...**** i lost 75lbs off the stuff....look at my progress pictures if you dont believe me, i only went through 2 cycles and now i dont use it at all. I just use l-carnitine now...